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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Tommy Davis & Jessica Feshbach: New Jobs and New Lives for Scientology’s Former Mouthpieces

Tommy_JessicaWe hear it all the time — what happened to Tommy Davis and Jessica Feshbach?

There still seems to be a huge fascination for the two former Scientology media handlers, and why not? Take Tommy — he’s the good-looking son of actress Anne Archer, and for a few years he was thrust into prominence as the church’s main mouthpiece. He tangled with the likes of BBC reporter John Sweeney and New Yorker writer Lawrence Wright, and was the last Scientology official who would brave live television to do battle on behalf of the church.

Jessica, meanwhile, gained her own notoriety as the shadow of Katie Holmes. The two became good friends, and Jessica was with Katie around the clock in part to shield the actress from nosy reporters and their impertinent questions about Tom Cruise and e-meters.

And then, suddenly, the two vanished. What happened?

Well, for one thing, they got married. And at some point — perhaps early in 2011 — they apparently fell from favor, as high executives working for Scientology leader David Miscavige have a tendency to do. We’re still not sure what ruined Tommy with Miscavige, but it’s a good guess that Lawrence Wright’s February 2011 New Yorker article, “The Apostate,” may have been the clincher. (Wright demolished Tommy’s statements about L. Ron Hubbard’s war record.)

Davis and Feshbach went off the radar at that point — we reported last October when the two of them were removed from Scientology’s media relations page.

At the time, we heard that the reason the two had vanished was that Jessica was gravely ill.

It turns out, that wasn’t true.

Jessica wasn’t ill, and she has told friends that she doesn’t know how that rumor got started.

The couple did leave Scientology’s Sea Org and their jobs as spokespersons, but we hear they’re still members of the church itself.

And now we can report they’re both doing well in new careers after moving to Austin, Texas.

Jessica Feshbach Davis is now an agent at Wilson Goldrick Realtors. Here, see for yourself…

 
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We called her some time ago, but for some reason she didn’t want to talk to us.

Meanwhile, her husband landed his own plum spot.

And he’s now known as Thomas Davis.

Thomas is a new managing director at Colony Capital, one of the largest private equity real estate funds in the world.

ThomasDavis

 
The Santa Monica company was started in 1991 by investor Thomas J. Barrack, Jr. Recently, the company has been buying up thousands of foreclosed homes in places like South Florida.

We e-mailed Thomas, hoping he’d tell us what his job entails, but he hasn’t gotten back to us yet. We’ll let you know if he does.

After talking to many former Sea Org members, we know how hard it can be to adapt to life outside the insular world of Scientology. Thomas and Jessica are both talented people from wealthy families who should do well. But we’d sure like to hear how the transition is going. Hey, you two, drop us a line!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on June 12, 2013 at 07:00

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  • FistOfXenu

    Austin Texas, you say? Interesting. If they’re not careful they’ll mix with apostates and then who knows what could happen?

    • Peter

      You *might* hear from them…when hell freezes over. Then, again, odder things have happened with Tony.

      • FistOfXenu

        They’d have to be pretty careful going public. Mommy can maybe swing exile instead of RPF but that doesn’t mean she wouldn’t still get it in the head if they outright blow and go public against the cult and the madman at the top.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Wild guess: much ado about Trust Fund details.

  • Cymboli

    The first question would be did Mommy and Daddy pay your freeloader bill or did you never receive one because Thomas is the privileged son of a hollywood actress? I’ll bet my vast sums of wealth on the latter.

  • 1subgenius

    If they weren’t both rich guess where they’d be.

    • monkeyknickers

      Maybe the families paid quadruple freeloader debt for their safe release from any nasty RPF related possibilities. Indulgences upon indulgences.

    • scnethics

      Right here?! :)

      • Miss Davidoff

        lol

  • Bob

    It is all speculation, but it stands to reason that pressure from Anne Archer was exerted to move her son off the firing line to an area were he would be below the radar and she could have him back as a son. Anne has clout with the church and I am sure extricated Tommy from what would have been a bad scene with the TINY TYRANT. As is the case with $cientology, money and power talks. So instead of the RPF for Tommy boy and his wife it is Austin Texas. A much better retreat for the cocky but inexperienced former PR boy. One more case of the rich and famous changing the Clamatology rules because they are celeBOTies.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      And this sounds totally like a plausible explanation. I was just thinking “Archer”; “Feshbach”….How far is tiny fists going to go to piss those people off permanently.
      I am sure this is the Scientology version of a golden parachute.

      By the way…I always found Jessica annoying as hell when she would “speak” for Katie all the time.
      What a twat!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        what a surprise…tommy boy is now flying wtith the real estate vultures’ second wave of rip offs here in Florida and feasting on corpses that once were children’s happy homes.

        And who starts rumors and lies about cancer? yeah, right. glad she’s okay, but yet another unconscionable manipulation.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          No shit about the cancer thing.
          Yeah, uh I believe she has no idea how that rumor got started!

          Just what Florida needs is more Buzzards!!!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            expect the skies to get crowded since legislators snuck in those foreclosure changes that favor these vultures and squish owners like a bug.

          • EnthralledObserver

            If that were true you’d think she would have had someone debunk it a wee bit earlier than this, innit?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Yeah, and I remember people on OCMB and ESMB who “knew” her well talking about her illness and how sick she was, etc.

              So, yeah…BULLSHIT!

              Cancer for convenience!
              Leave it to an ethical Scientologist to have no moral issue with doing that.

              And even if she didn’t start it personally…she sure could have stopped it a LONG ass time ago.

            • Poison Ivy

              Perhaps some erstwhile investigator can trace back how that “silly rumor” got started.
              Come on, kids. That’s pretty low. Lying about cancer to cover your “escape.”
              I wish the two of them well – even if they are still with the church, their lives have to be 1000x better now.
              Though the pressure to donate now that they’re in the world of Big Capitalism will definitely push their “ethics” boundaries (if they left CO$ with any.)

            • BuryTheNuts2
            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              If I was rebooting my life and looking for a new career and job, I would immediately stomp any rumours about having Leukemia…

            • stillgrace

              Thanks for the research starting points! Good going.

        • FistOfXenu

          Maybe her cancer was a metaphor.

          For being in the cult.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            heh, I keep forgetting about the new metaphor escape clause.

        • Spackle Motion

          I read somewhere (not that I believe most of what I read) that the cult came up with that rumor to explain why Tommy and Jessica blew or ‘routed out’ as it seems to be the case.

          They needed something to feed to the masses, and I’m sure that Rinder’s defection a few years prior caused enough internal strife that the midget felt it best to explain it away with an acceptable truth.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I remember that now and it certain fits in the plausible category. But how would the conversation go with a potential new employer: No, I don’t really have cancer. That was just to throw off the scientology Hounds of Hell. I Know how terrifying that can be…because we used to be one of them. Oh, did we forget to put that down on our resumes?

            • Spackle Motion

              That assumes that a new employer would have the time for some serious Google-fu and then wade through the myriad of anti-Scientology sites. She’s a real estate agent….they are a dime a dozen, and they have high turnover because it is a sink or swim situation early in their careers.

    • scnethics

      It’s true. Celebrities get away with murder in the church compared to the rank and file public. I don’t know that Anne had to say a word – maybe Tommy just blew (again) and because of who his mom is, it’s OK.

  • Truthiwant

    Thomas Davis is managing director at Colon Capital. Well, I hope he can digest all the shit he said when he was in the Sea Org!

    • FistOfXenu

      Maybe he’ll need colonic irrigation? With a fire hose?

      • Truthiwant

        I shudder to think what they might find up there.

        • FistOfXenu

          Demented Midget’s hand?

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Just the fingerprints…

  • Observer

    So they’re both in positions that involve a lot of other people’s money. I don’t know anything about, ahem, Thomas’ or Jessica’s personal ethics, but I do know that clam-aid guzzling Scientologists are very near the top of my list of people I wouldn’t want anywhere near my money or my personal info. That said, I hope they’re on the way to waking up from their years of conditioning and will soon join the ranks of the exes.

  • FistOfXenu

    I know this is off topic but is there a page someplace where Tony (or somebody) listed the books about $cientarCONon all in 1 place? Including the newer stuff from the last 10 yrs or so. I’d like to have a single link I could use to cover all that and the only 1 I can find stops in the 90s.

    • 10oriocookies

      reachingforthetippingpoint.net has all the narcobooks.

      • FistOfXenu

        Great! Thanks.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Managing Director of a company buying up cheap real estate… and a Real Estate Associate… Hmm… it kinda seems like insider trading to me. :p
    Looks like Uncle Davey’s goals and strategies are a little hard to throw off.

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Hmmm… As my mother would say, “You’re too clever for your own good!” I think you might be on to something. And they are still part of the church, as Tony said.
      Didn’t the cult buy Larry Hagman’s mansion in Bev. Hills? Or something like that?
      Maybe part of routing out of the Sea Org included an arrangement to buy more real estate for Miscavige’s portfolio and the portfolio will include properties not meant to be part of Idle Morgue side of things. He may be looking to quickly empty a good part of the war chest in “legitimate” investments before all the lawsuits that are still pending get settled and m-a-y-b-e (fingers crossed here) he starting to see the writing on those titanium plates that the end is near (the FBI. IRS, and/or Homeland Security are at the gates)?
      The LRH era writings by Ex’s included statements they had opened Swiss bank accounts for the cult. Hasn’t the U.S. successfully forced the Swiss (among other tax havens elsewhere) to opened up their bank’s secret accounts?

      • Poison Ivy

        “Didn’t the cult buy Larry Hagman’s mansion in Bev. Hills? Or something like that?”

        They bought Larry Hagman’s house in Ojai…more of a country estate than a mansion.

        • And I don’t rent cars!

          Oops! Thanks for the clarification.
          California (or as Jed Clampett would say, “Cali-forn-eye-a.”) geography is as dense to me as everything else was to Jethro from the same TV series.
          To me, it seems to be a country of its own and I have a mental block at to locations and where cities are in relation to others; that and the fact that it’s population slightly exceeds my own country’s population makes it seems like I could never learn it’s geography! It is silly of me as I have an aunt who has lived in that state 40+ years and has moved half as many times. I should not be so Jethroish about it but I am. Sorry.

          • John P.

            Yes, the geography of California is very complex. People from the eastern US often don’t understand just how big it is — driving from LA to San Francisco is about like driving from Washington DC to Boston, and you haven’t even driven half of the length of California after such a lengthy trip.

            I can understand that it would be especially difficult for a citizen of “Canada,” that small picturesque region of far upstate New York, to get used to coming from tiny hamlets like Toronto to teeming, sophisticated cities like Bakersfield or Visalia in California. And I have heard that it is especially difficult for citizens of “Quebec,” (which is the word for “Canada” in some odd rarely spoken foreign language that vaguely resembles French) to acclimate to the complexity of the rest of America. Quebec, according to my maps, is a small district of northern Vermont and which features quaint, historic villages even more rustic than Toronto. :-)

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Hey John Pee,

              Did you hear Miss Poison Ivy on the partee line? She lives yonder above me here. She said that in Cali-forn-eye-a there is a place where they have them there “Huge fancy-pants golf resorts.”

              Gau-au-lee Gee! Does that mean that she seen you John Pee in your HUGE fancee pants trying to hit them there, what looks like from my igloo, little itty bitty fresh laid eggs with a long stick?!!

              I kin show you a better way to make scrambled eggs.

              I’ll have y’all come over and I’ll fry up some fresh whale fat rinds and beaver tails too.
              I’ll bring two teams of snowsled dogs and meet you at the Vermont border.
              P.S. Don’t forget to bring your swimsuit!

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Bakersfield! Did you say Bakersfield?! Hey, that’s where my aunt lives. Do you know her? Ura Butthead.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Sorry but didn’t you hear? Quebec don’t live here no more.

          • Poison Ivy

            Nothing to be ashamed of, Cali-forn-eye-a is indeed a country to itself! FYI Ojai is a beautiful, very crunch granola community just a little less than an hour north of LA, up in the mountains above Ventura. It has a huge fancy-pants golf resort and some other spas, as well as lots of artists and holistic folk. I’ve known a number of filmmaking types who worked their way up there after getting sick of LA proper.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I would term it a country retreat, albeit a very plush one. It is also noted for its remoteness.

      • George Layton

        Now that you have mentioned that, I’m curious if the other employees, at both business’s, are also in the church.

        • And I don’t rent cars!

          Good question! It never occurred to me. I never went past the thought, “Their parents’ connections got them their jobs.” But… their parents are not just rich – they are also $cientologists. Nepotism aside, I can’t imagine (now that you’ve brought it up) that these are 100% wog companies. There HAS to be Scion connections.
          Do you have any idea as to how a person could find that kind of info?

          • George Layton

            Even if I had a list of employees, I would not be able to recognize the scientologists. THDNE in a later post today, noted she did not recognize any of the names as scientologists, when she looked at the company info.

  • Noah Miller

    Even after all the crap he pulled as an arm of the church I’m still happy to see them at least somewhat free. I hope they can step farther and farther away from it all until they can hardly remember their time under the heal of a small man, and beholden to a bloated man’s delusions.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    I imagine that a few months of working in the real world, with people who don’t beat you up, will allow them both to find some balance in their lives. I bet they call.

    • 1subgenius

      You’re on. What’s the time frame? And how much?
      I’ll go a billion trillionty bucks and give you odds of a billion trillionty to one.
      About the same as OJ finding the real killers.

      • FistOfXenu

        Bucks? Not clams?

        • 1subgenius

          I see what you did there.

          • FistOfXenu

            ;)
            Snap! Snap! Snap!

  • ultzi

    I don’t get it. How can “Thomas” Davis get a job as the “Managing Director” of one of the largest private equity funds in the world with no experience?? He also doesn’t have a college degree and the only job he’s ever had has been as the mouthpiece of a cult. Aren’t there other qualified candidates with financial experience and MBA’s? Please don’t tell me his mother got him the job because that doesn’t make sense. She’s a faded actress who’s last hit was in the 80’s. So please explain how these two dimwits could land spectacular jobs. Their parents wealth and connections? That’s a stretch, even for Texas.

    • John P.

      I seem to recall that Tommy Davis’s father is extremely rich and is in the world of commercial real estate, so I would think that had something to do with his being able to wind up in a real estate private equity fund.

      Selling residential real estate (Jessica’s job) requires a measurable pulse as a basic qualification. Success requires hard work and hustle, and enough cash to avoid starving while building up a pipeline of listings and/or buyers. But education and prior experience is not a big deal.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Jess didn’t get looked after too… nawww, so sad. The family don’t approve? Or they’ve had enough of working so closely together?

    • 1subgenius

      They still have their OT powerz.

    • Noah Miller

      Nepotism is so damn powerful. People want their kids to do great things and want to give them as many opportunities as they can regardless of their ability to do the job. Other people know that by helping someone’s kid will make them worth more to the parent. So— Nepotism man. Even in Texas.

    • Sid_Sn

      I think you might be misunderstanding the term “Managing Director”. In some parts of the world, e.g. Britain, that basically means you are the CEO. In this case however, it means he runs a part of the organization. That part might be quite small. It also might be like a “flattery” title to make him sound more important than he really is, as a favor to his family.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Managing Director can mean…”I have a corner office in a building downtown…my name is on the door but I don’t know the address or how to get there. But they make a direct deposit to my account so it is all good.”

        Almost every larger “Corporation” seems to have one or two of these “ghosts”.

      • EnthralledObserver

        I want to get a cushy job with a fancy fake name… “Managing Director of Familiar Affairs” just doesn’t cut it… :(

        • tetloj

          I never looked back from being named Manager Business Systems which made me the BS manager. I had a BS coordinator and a BS officer working with me. I chose the title specially for the acronym…got to get your lulz at work somehow

          • Miss Davidoff

            Lol.

      • John P.

        In financial services firms (including private equity), the title “Managing Director” applies to many people throughout an organization, and indicates that someone is responsible for a particular area of the business. The title typically replaces the term “partner” in firms who are not run as partnerships — brokerage firms used to be partnerships but are now corporations. It typically means that someone is trusted to make most decisions on their own without their boss having to sign off on everything they do.

        There is a lot of title inflation in the financial services game, and there are people carrying the title of “Managing Director” who have one or two staff people working for them. My first Managing Director title on Wall Street (before I arrived in the hallowed halls of Global Capitalism HQ, where the title really means something) involved managing a staff of three people in a bullpen; I didn’t even have a secretary much less a jet.

        So it is possible that Tommy is given a small puddle of money and allowed to run around and buy distressed real estate with it without having to have every aspect of his deals scrutinized up the wazoo by top management. It does not mean that he is a major titan of industry with a staff of thousands the way a term like “Senior Vice President” would mean at a company like General Motors or Google.

        • Poison Ivy

          Title inflation – something that never happens in the entertainment business ;-)

        • Ivan Mapother

          Good point. Have you ever tried to put Managing Director of Break Room Supplies, Non-Dairy Coffee Creamer and Swizzle Sticks Division on a name plate?

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Now that we have heard about the backgrounds of those who helped bring about the real estate and financial collapse, I hope the new young wave of “managing directors” are not from the same Swindling Swizzlers Division!

        • Marta

          Maybe Thomas is given a small puddle of money and a couple employees to make connections with celebs and people in high places, schmooze and love bomb them into the arms of this firm.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            This!

        • Spackle Motion

          Thanks, JP. This was a question I had when I saw the LinkedIn title and I actually scanned the comments until I saw your icon, and I was very pleased that you answered my question before I asked!

          I did a Google search of ‘managing director, colony capital’ and it does look like many of the current executives were a managing director and partner at other firms before coming to Colony Cap. This was disturbing to me because Thomas has zero experience, no degree, and only family connections.

          I’m pretty sure that his family connections got him that job, but a glance at their open positions on their website tells me that their HR hiring practices require degrees. They even require a degree for an intern. An INTERN!

          I know about the world of inflated titles and titles with the word “manager” in them that mean nothing. Usually the word “director” has more pull although it is still middle management.

          I’ve also seen AVP, VP, and SVP thrown around like it was alphabet soup. In one firm I worked in, they gave people the AVP title and the only benefit was that you actually got a parking space. And a lot of people had that title.

          I’ve also seen firms make up their own titles and then the EEs struggle to explain how that translates into the job market. God knows I had some strange titles over the years.

          • John P.

            One of my assistants in my first big Wall Street job was the only heir to a prominent Wall Street family. Grandpa founded a legendary brokerage firm that became a household name. Dad took the money he inherited from Grandpa and built a highly respected hedge fund and made more money than Grandpa ever dreamed of. Junior stood to inherit at least $1 billion, probably more, when I knew him. We hired him because of an “arrangement” between Daddy’s hedge fund and our chairman — we got at least $1 million in commissions from Daddy’s hedge fund every year as long as Junior stayed on the payroll, which more than covered the expenses of having him around. Since I was the newest member of the research team, Junior was assigned to me. Junior was well-meaning, smart enough, nice enough and competent enough, though he lacked the fire in the belly to grit it out through the really tough times. I actually liked the kid and felt sorry for him as most others treated him terribly because of his wealth.

            Point is that there are these sort of arrangements in the financial services business all the time. My first reaction when seeing the LinkedIn profile was that Dad may have put a big chunk of cash into Colony in return for Tommy getting a job with a title and a chance to do a few deals in a tightly circumscribed role where he couldn’t get in any real trouble. After all, I had seen an arrangement like that before.

            • Miss Davidoff

              If remember correctly his dad is not infected by $cientology, so in case
              he got his new job with the help of his dad, some kind of
              reconnection seems to have taken place.

              Maybe getting and accepting support from his wog dad helps him to open his
              eyes about the cult a little further.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              interesting story!

            • RMycroft

              Dad is certainly no dummy. I’ve heard that he set up Tommy’s trust fund so that Tommy (and Scientology) couldn’t touch the principal. I bet the regs have a daily “still alive or not” checkoff list for him. When he dies, and Tommy presumably gets full control, the sharks will be all over him before dad’s body is cold.

            • villagedianne

              I hope that’s true about the trust fund.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Like I said, much ado about Trust Fund details, but have to add the Celeb Mom factor, too.

            • BosonStark

              Thanks for that explanation and example. While I assumed Tommy was assigned some very experienced person or a team to do the heavy lifting, my first reaction was that he had hundreds of people under him — eeek. I think I have a better picture of it now.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            In my field, I have worked in companies where the pay was pretty awful and the compensation package laughable. But the titles were FABULOUS. They looked so good on a resume. One of the places I worked actually let me make up my own title, as they felt badly they couldn’t pay more…

        • richelieu jr

          You guys haven’t seen job title inflation and meaningless terms until you try and find out what a ‘producer’ or ‘executive producer’ of a t-film does. It might be EVERYTHING. Might mean he had the rights to the book once, oe she wrote it… Might mean she’s sleeping with the real producer might mean he’s doing nothing at all or she’s putting up some cash…

          • Miss Davidoff

            What is a t-film? Please wordclear for me.

            • richelieu jr

              It’s a typo Miss D!

            • Miss Davidoff

              Zhank you.

    • HeatherGraceful

      He’s got the tech, silly!

  • May_West

    Buying up Florida real estate for Miscavige?

  • jensting

    Good to hear that Jessica Feshbach wasn’t ill after all. Apart from that. I guess money cushions the fall from grace (as must the inside info).

  • LemonLemon

    Wow, Tommy looks….dare I say it…happy! Getting out from under the thumb of DM has definitely done him some good. Some others have noted, and I agree, that it seems suspicious to have gotten his job without any background or experience in the field. Sure people can call in a favor or two but it makes me wonder how good he can be at it.

    • Poison Ivy

      One thing about ol’ Tommy, when he wasn’t shouting at John Sweeney, he was able to “present” very, very well. Polished, with manners. I can see him making a good executive. Don’t know how savvy he’d be behind the scenes, on the computer or on a spreadsheet, but he will always have the innate and also developed skills to be a good glad-handing front man. And all that reg training will make him a great closer.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        The only redeeming thing about Davis is when he almost cried about LRH’s war record to Wright..

        …and if it was a lie, then Scientology is based on a lie….

        Oh it still just excites me to type that out and realize that Tommy was having a cognition!

        Too bad it didn’t stick!

        • Observer

          Maybe it did and just needs to percolate for awhile longer. A girl can dream, can’t she?

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Yes, and when he sucks it up and joins us…I will finally cut his pretty boy cracker ass some slack!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I didn’t think of it as a cognition, just constipation.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            baahaahaaa

        • ze moo

          That remark is why Davis is out. You can’t admit to the scam. In the end Tommy Davis was too lightweight for the job of public face of a space alien exorcism cult with a real estate fetish.

      • Ivan Mapother

        Regarding Thomas’ polished appearance, there’s an old Norwegian saying “You can put a chimp in an Armani suit but he’ll still throw shit at you.”

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I am falling in love with you today!!!

        • Miss Davidoff

          Very well said :)

      • 0tessa

        You mean a secondhand car salesman?

      • BosonStark

        Really? I always just thought of him as an Armani-clad Xenu-denialist/turd-polisher.

        • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

          There’s a difference between that and a typical pr executive? Minus the Xenu part.

    • 1subgenius

      The pic is old.

    • Miss Davidoff

      I could be wrong but I think this photo is several years old and was taken when both of them were still in the Sea Org and close to Miscavich.

      What strikes me is that Jesscia comes across in the photo as the dominant part of the couple. Tommy looks almost like a toy boy for me. I think she was his sec checker some time before they were married. That would fit into the picture.

      What a bizzaro world! Lol.

  • Ms. B. Haven

    Both of these characters have been annoying as hell over the years. Anyone who has been in any position as a staff member of any scientology organization has crimes against humanity they need to deal with. Scientology critics are quick to jump all over these folks, but things can change quickly. When those of us who were ‘in’ are finally ‘out’, our sins are somehow erased. I hope that’s the case with these two. After being a royal pain in the ass, a talking Thomas and jabbering Jessica would be a fine pair to have in the critic community. I’m not holding my breath though. It usually takes a couple of goes for ordinary folks to finally break free. With their family connections and wealth, the rules are different for them.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Well, getting out of the Sea Org celeb tending rat race, I’m sure has health benefits all its own.

    Glad she’s looking healthy at least! Disconnecting from the Sea Org recriminations and ill feelings that the Sea Org “top” people probably were feeling for Tommy and Jessica, their being out, living normal stress reduced lives outside the Sea Org, is a health benefit that is huge!

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      I remember the huge weight of oppression that lifts off one, the first day one steps out, free, from the Sea Org life of confinement (being watched, since leaving the Sea Org, one is in Liability, and must be “watched” constantly for fear you will do something bad against the Sea Org).

      It’s a huge relief of freedom, getting out of the Sea Org, a permanent good feeling!

      • BuryTheNuts2

        So are Thomas (hahaha) and Jessica still degraded beings from here on out?
        Or are they just slightly tainted ones because of their last names?

        Will they not be allowed on the upper levels?

        Will Tommy never get to OT VIII and be able to get a good parking space in downtown Austin?

        • 1subgenius

          “Thomas Davis” is so awkward.
          Why not “Tom Davis”?
          I bet he thinks the added syllable gives him gravitas.

          • 10oriocookies

            Thomas Davis Aquinas? He can say he was the original from a past life….

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          bury, they will be paying for their “protection” the rest of their lives. scientologists with wealth can be whoever they want to be. that’s why they’re scientologists.

          tommy skipped the resort slave/volunteer Hole and relaxing camps? now I do feel sorry for him. the staff already hates anyone they have to serve lobster fingers to when they are starving.

  • Sid_Sn

    I’m probably in the minority here, but I wish these two well. “Thomas” was a 2nd generation Scientologist, and I always feel sorry for ANY person born into a religion, where they are indoctrinated into believing they are the only people who can save the world. He did not choose his parents, and he did not choose Scientology.

    For all of the nasty things he said and did, he was indoctrinated to believe he was doing the right thing.

    Everyone who knew the young Tommy said the same thing – sweet kid.

    I’m glad he’s out, I hope he one day learns the full truth about his experiences, and I hope one day he speaks out. That’s all you can ever say about someone who escapes from the Sea Org.

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Those are very compassionate sentiments. It gives me pause to put myself more often in the shoes of these 2nd and 3rd generation children and adults. Thank you for that.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Yes, you guys are very nice and compassionate.
        I wish I was. But I am not.

        I think Tommy and Jessica are spoiled rotten jerkoffs.

        Let’s put it this way. I feel for the Marc and Claire Headley’s of the world.
        The ex scientology kids.

        Or anyone with integrity.

        And maybe someday these two twats will show some of that integrity stuff…..but until they do….
        They can take their new fake skills and titles and shove em in their well funded pie holes.

        • EnthralledObserver

          Amen.

        • 10oriocookies

          Im not quite sure I get what you are saying. Are saying they should fuck off, are fucking assholes or fucking fuckers who are fucked?

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Yes, that!
            :)

          • tetloj

            :)

          • EnthralledObserver

            All the above, pretty much…

          • Sherbet

            10, 10, 10; you’re so glib.

          • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

            I think there is one way in which they were likely victims, after being in Scientology for so long:

            I doubt they fuck well.

        • 0tessa

          I share your opinion. VIP’s in Scientology are the worst.

        • And I don’t rent cars!

          Can we agree to disagree? You ARE nice and compassionate. I’ve been lurking onTony’s blog(s) for a while now and see how you worry when people don’t show up in the Bunker, are sick, facing problems, etc.

          And can we agree to agree? Yes, a distinction needs to made between people like DM, Tommy and Jessica,… versus the Headleys, Jenna Miscavige,…

          • BuryTheNuts2

            You bet we can agree to disagree.
            I am disagreeable like that! :)

        • DeElizabethan

          BTN – Perfect !

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Mercy me.

          Tell us how you really feel about it…!

      • Poison Ivy

        Ditto. I too sort of wish them well. What I really wish for them is to see the light and join the intelligent, insightful and compassionate exes on this board, the ones who are making amends for what they did while in by sharing information and helping others.
        Because they have the money shield, however, that likely will never happen.
        Money is wonderful, but it can also hobble the soul if it’s used as a way to escape growing up.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          Absolutely!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          narcissism can be a bit of a barrier too.

          • Poison Ivy

            Oh yeah, that. ;-)

    • EnthralledObserver

      I don’t know about that… I’ve heard these two in action and they were both VERY aware of the lies they were telling whilst simultaneously making sure those lies were kept so borderline so as to be percieved as not lies…
      I know as a ‘never in’ it’s probably harder for me to comprehend their particular circumstances, but I’m going to be honest, it’s pretty hard to pinpoint ‘victim’ in the pair of them.

      • stateofcircle

        The word ‘victim’ assumes someone is suffering as a result of something. Having solid, well-paying jobs, a nice condo in Austin and, undoubtedly, money to play with from any number of sources doesn’t sound like suffering to me. I certainly wish them well, and sure hope they talk one day, but feel bad for them I won’t. They’re adults in the free world now, and have the ability to get away from the indoctrination. Time will tell I suppose.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Yup.

    • media_lush

      I would imagine the ‘indoctrination’ of a celeb kid versus a ‘norm’ would be wildly different …. sort of weakens your argument a tad, maybe.

      • Sid_Sn

        Really? I could argue that it strengthens it.

        A celeb kid gets the same indoctrination, but with perhaps a bit of extra leeway. Gets saved from being chucked in the RPF a few times if you know what I mean.

        Anyway, let’s have some honesty. Most people here are throwing grenades at him, but if he suddenly published a book entitled “How Hubbard stole my life” then all would be forgiven. We don’t know what is going through his mind, or how long it might take him to “wake up”. The other day, Tony had an article from Jon Atack, who reckoned it took longer than 12.5 years to recover from Scientology.

        Yes, there are victims of Tommy Davis, but Tommy Davis is also a victim himself. Yes, he saw lots of abuses taking place but, like all other Scientologists he was able to justify them in the context of the greater good etc etc.

        As a perpetrator of abuse, it will take Tommy a long time to come to terms with what he’s done, and given also his privileged upbringing it will be even harder for him to admit he made big mistakes and hurt people terribly.

        Does he need people telling him what a nasty piece of work he was? Probably not. Does he need people showing him forgiveness and kindness? Probably.

        Read the memoirs of Rudolf Hoss, the Auschwitz Camp Commandant. He says he expected to be mistreated by the Polish prison guards, but they showed him kindness and respect and that it made him realize just how brutal he had been and it put him to shame.

        • media_lush

          “Most people here are throwing grenades at him, but if he suddenly published a book entitled “How Hubbard stole my life” then all would be forgiven. ”

          Whilst I admire your ability to see the sunnier side of this discourse I can only judge or make comments from what I’ve seen and learned and the thing that struck me about him was how he seemed to revel in being the bad guy – he had a real penchant for it. I might be wrong but I feel he’s so far gone that ‘shame’ is no longer a possibility in his social fabric. You only have to look at all the exes who have made a go of it with an attempt at redeemable actions [hell, even Marty]…. this guy doesn’t seem to have a redeemable bone in his body.

          • Sid_Sn

            Well, you may be completely right. But remember, Marty Rathbun left the church in 2004 – how many people who had been on the wrong end of HIS “bad guy” routine thought he had any redeemable bones? It’s taken him until 2013 to write about his experiences in the church, and even that criticism is qualified. And how long is it since Marty participated in the Armstrong case, where he saw all the evidence that showed Hubbard was a monumental liar, and saw how he had treated his daughter and his wives? 30 years.

            However, I guess the point I’m making is this – how do we think as a critic community we should best treat those who exit the cult of Scientology? I will bet you that Thomas “Tommy” Davis, and his wife have read this article and these comments. Which of these comments is most likely to inspire him to look inward and contemplate his past and his future? Is it the ones which call him a twat and a fucking asshole?

            Exes, indies, under-the-radars – they all at some point stop by Tony’s blog to read about what’s going on – even if they don’t admit it to each other. Every day hundreds of Scientologists read this stuff – and what do they make of the abuse that is dished out? Are we inspiring them or repelling them? Do we care? Clearly some don’t. I don’t understand that attitude. I’m in this to help people who are stuck in a mind fuck they don’t even know they’re in, and the way we respond to them is crucial.

    • Roman

      I understand what you are saying, but Tommy is in his 40’s and has been absolutely terrorizing anyone who tried to leave the cult for years. He knew of all the abuses and condoned many of them in person. He was different than many 2nd and 3rd generations like myself. He knew the truth for YEARS and promulgated the abuses as one of Miscavige’s sidekick. That’s like saying you feel bad for SS members who got roped into Hitler’s program of committing genocide.

      • SciWatcher

        Agreed.

      • Marta

        +1

      • Spackle Motion

        Tommy Davis is a sympathetic character for some odd reason, and maybe it is because he was so obviously over his head after Rinder left. By all accounts Tommy is a nice guy but I’m sure the same was said about Miscavige at some point. He was a major player in many human rights abuses and we all have heard the borderline extortion attempt he and Jessica did on Larry Anderson. He’s in no way an innocent rube.

    • FistOfXenu

      With you on this Sid though I hope somebody’s there with a net when he realizes all the shit he did for Dwarfenfuhrer Midget. And I DO hope he realizes it and doesn’t run away into warrior fantasies like some people I could mention.

    • stillgrace

      I see your “indoctrination” and raise you one flaming asshole. (poker mood) I’ll never forget my confusion when I started researching the cult in 2008 and met “I’m angry- real ANGRY” Tommy for the first time on a rooftop harrassing John Sweeney trying to interview an ex. My brain just fizzled for a second: “THAT’s a representative of a CHURCH???? WTF?

      edit: this clip is an encore of the rooftop moment

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HGM8DSnYh0

  • sugarplumfairy

    Of course he changed his name.. Google Thomas Davis and then google Tommy Davis.. It’s a world of difference.. Anyone who would allow Tommy to manage funds for him must be.. well.. a scientologist..

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Sadly, think about how many American’s have no idea who (or what) he is.
      Or his…wife.

      • Captain Howdy

        Maybe they need to find out. At least down Austin way.

        • Sherbet

          Maybe Sweeney can pop in with the occasional parking lot ambush. With cameras, of course.

          • EnthralledObserver

            And t-shirts…

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              $cion Busters! I want one!

            • N. Graham

              I want in! Do we get forehead cams too?

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              And I want to drive up in one of those little golf carts!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              and don’t forget the paddle boats!

            • Sherbet

              No, no, no, cancel the boats and fold up the T-shirts. John Sweeney should simply do unto others. Tommy stalked him and appeared mysteriously unannounced wherever Sweeney was. That’s all we’d expect from Sweeney — find out where TD is going to be with a client, and just BE THERE, yammering in TD’s face while he tries to do his job. On camera, of course (but not a hat cam). That’s what I’d like to see.

            • FistOfXenu

              Mounted to a baseball cap?

            • N. Graham

              Of course!

      • sugarplumfairy

        Well.. If they google him as Tommy, they’ll get an eyeful..

    • Captain Howdy

      Yeah, cuz there’s no way a self respecting scavenger capitalist would have anything to do with a scientologist.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Hey, maybe he can give Reed Slatkin a job as his personal Volunteer assistant when he gets out of jail this year! Perfect!

      • sugarplumfairy

        Lol.. Good point..

  • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

    What’s the use of doing all those TRs if you cower in terror every time a reporter calls? If you’re afraid of losing your gains due to a tough question or some “entheta” I got to tell you – you gained nothing my friend.

    • Poison Ivy

      Hmmmmm, yes, looks like Tommy has lost his “confront.”

    • Bleuler

      They have learned to shatter when confronted?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Wow! So everyone was reading the books upside down or backwards? Note to Miscavige: I smell another Basics lineup, Pope Profit!

    • Roman

      I know Tommy personally, and although his past media nightmares already prove my point, I’ll point it out again – he’s got a really short temper. I’m sure him and Jessica are trying to stay low key and start new lives together so as not to upset Miscavige or irritate any actions from their past careers. Buuutttttt, if I was a gambling man, I’d say Tommy could be broken pretty easily with a few regular phone calls and emails regarding his sea org tenure. I believe he deserves it, the old bloke.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        um, this would be acting like a scientologist, the most ethical blah blah. Let’s not forget how Tommy excels at footbulletry. He will do the job better than anyone.

        • FistOfXenu

          Yup. the most he needs from anybody is the occasional straight line. He’ll do the punch lines.

    • FistOfXenu

      It’s maybe the clearest picture of how useless the Tech really is. They can bullshit about how we wogs’d be overwhelmed by seeing their OT powerz, but if they can’t communicate with anybody about any subject without shitting themselves the Tech has no place to hide. It’s a con. Like all the rest of Hubbard’s Horseshit (TM).

      • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

        You can really see a good example of that in the recent video Mark Bunker made talking to that Portland org exec. Mark was pleasant and friendly while the OT8 exec came off as a snotty loon with her passive aggressive crap. So much for those superior communication skills.

        • FistOfXenu

          Just the example I was thinking of. Mark “confronted” and communicated freely with her. She spent all her time dancing around trying to collapse him without giving away anything on camera that could land her in the shit with DM.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Their places of work are outed now… will there be any fallout for them from this?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      jess real estate job has been known for avwhile. also, this is the world of real estate.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Just imagine how many emails relating to people wanting answers regarding her time in and getting out of Scientology she’d need to wade through before she got to the genuine ones requesting a house viewing… lol

      • BuryTheNuts2

        JP was right…anybody with a pulse can pass that Real Estate licence test.
        Mr. Nuts breezed right through it and added it to his ever growing pile of degrees, licences and certifications.

        Not bad for a dude with no job or plans on getting one!

        OK, that was my irritable wife rant of the month!

      • FistOfXenu

        Maybe real estate agents and $cientarCONonists get along like sharks and lawyers in the old joke?

    • Captain Howdy

      “Can I speak to Thomas Davis?”

      “Who may I say is calling?”

      “Ah, Xenu..Lord Xenu”

      • Mrs Libnish

        Thanks. I spit on my keyboard.

      • FistOfXenu

        I’m tempted.

        • Sherbet

          Do it, FOX!

        • Captain Howdy

          “Can I speak to Thomas Davis please”

          “He’s not available at the moment..can I take a message?”

          “Yes, could you tell him that David Miscavige called and he’s angry..REAL ANGRY”

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            snarky lols

          • FistOfXenu

            It only works if you can muster that snotty whiny Tommy voice.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        You people are so MEAN.

        I like it.

  • Sherbet

    I wonder if the couple has been spotted going into their local org on a regular basis. I’d HATE to think they’re squirrels.

  • 10oriocookies

    Tommy is a tool. Jessica is a Feshbach. No more needs to be said.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Oh, I can think of one thing…but you already know what it is!

      • EnthralledObserver

        Oh, do share… just in case I’m thinking the wrong thing…

        • BuryTheNuts2

          They are fucked!

          • 10oriocookies

            Who is more tool? The tool or the tool who follows the tool?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              fucker…fuckee
              tomato…tahmato

            • monkeyknickers

              I chose one word at random from the above for comments. I think it sums everything up:

              They Tool Original Fuckee Tahmato!

              Seriously WHAT MORE CAN BE SAID.

            • tetloj

              Or as COB says, TTOFT

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              having problems with images today, my bad.

            • sugarplumfairy

              This pic breaks my heart.. He should be fishing or riding his bike..

            • aquaclara

              I keep thinking that one day, this kid is going to see this picture and say, “everyone saw this. How come no one did anything to help stop this? ”

            • sugarplumfairy

              Hopefully, he’ll have access to the Internet and he’ll know people were trying..

            • 1subgenius

              I like that play on the original, which is one of my faves.

            • SciWatcher

              Ah, Obi-Wan, you have much wisdom.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Or the Fool who Follows the Tool?

          • FistOfXenu

            Just for you, BTN:

            • Sherbet

              A more enturbulating (for cos) sign would read: Tommy and Jessica: They are OUT (pretty much)

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              How about: Tommy and Jessica: They Lied

            • FistOfXenu

              Okay, how about this:

  • Ivan Mapother

    Congratulations Thomas, you put a ring on it and made a honest woman out of Miss Jessica. Now the big question, how soon before you crazy kids start procreating and replace those holes you left in the Sea Org?

    On a business note. I’m dying to see if your business cards say “The most ethical people on the planet.” If I was investing or purchasing real estate, that would be the clincher.

    • EnthralledObserver

      lulz

    • Missionary Kid

      My dad used to say that if someone felt compelled to tell you that they were a Christian businessman, to hold on to your wallet. It’s kinda in the same vein.

      • villagedianne

        Anyone who has to tell you that they are a “good person” is usually an a-hole with a big ego. Actual good and ethical people don’t feel a need to broadcast it.

        • Missionary Kid

          Exactly. That was my point. It also applies to “the most ethical people in the world.”

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Yes.

          Yes.

          Yes.

      • FistOfXenu

        My old man was like yours. He used to say every time somebody says “to be honest with you” or “the truth is” he’s gonna lie to you. In those days a hand shake was a contract and he also liked to say “shake hands but count your fingers”.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      That’s right, Tommy! Hubbard said you can’t leave without a replacement (as a Volunteer in the relaxing RPF resort, isn’t that what you said in the interview, TommY?).

      [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/f0dhjo.jpg[/IMG]

  • stateofcircle

    Hmmm where has Observer been? It’s been quite awhile I reckon…

    • BuryTheNuts2

      She was here yesterday.

      • Observer

        I’ve been here today. lol

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Damn you are good!

          • stateofcircle

            Mornings are no good for me!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              They are great for me… but only after about 32 ounces of coffee.

            • Observer

              I’m right there with you, sister.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Observer………we need a Suri/Tommy Davis morph shoop!!!!!

              I bet you put Suri’s hair on Tommy and soften his boy skin up and he looks just like her!

            • media_lush

              I remember I have the latest version of my morphing software on my iMac …. I’ll have a go later on as I’m on my iPad right now

            • Observer

              As fun as that would be, I don’t want to shoop civilian clams. Tommy is former management so he’s a fair target, and the celebrities are public figures so they’re targets too, but that’s where I feel i have to draw the line.

            • tetloj

              You’re so ethical. There’s this group I’m not sure if you’ve heard about. They’re the most ethical group on the planet. You’d fit right in ;p

            • Observer

              I’m not nearly ethical (or well off) enough for that group. :-p

            • FistOfXenu

              Just checked. DM still didn’t fix the dictionaries to include the definition “ethical: the quality of being loaded and feeding your money into $cientarCONon to make DM rich”

              All that’s there is a semicolon.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              See how nice you are!

            • FistOfXenu

              Good on you Obs. I’d like to think by the time Suri is grown up the evil cult will be a bad dream that she hardly remembers. She doesn’t deserve to have her that shoop floating around the intertubes in an archive.

            • Observer

              That kid is going to have enough pain in her life with that deluded, arrogant twit for a father, biological or not.

        • stateofcircle

          Well clearly I feel like a complete ass. Obviously you’ve been here! I looked at someone else’s handle and it reminded me of someone who hasn’t been around, and I stupidly and tiredly made a very dumb mistake! Sorry!

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    In some respects, I would think being ex Sea Org would help in the wog world: not flinching in putting in the hours towards a goal, being able to defer to management easily, understanding and demonstrating the ability to ‘reg’ or sell.

    On the other hand, I wouldn’t trust them with $50 and a grocery list.

    • stateofcircle

      I’ve always thought the same thing. A lot of ex SO have started their own businesses and done some pretty impressive things. They have a background that taught them a lot if very valuable skills, especially (very) hard work and a serious whatever-it-takes attitude. They’ve often had to accomplish a lot from nothing.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        This is so very true. Employers filter through Resumes first. Education, Experience, Actual Real World up to date skills comes First on their radar. It helps to have a friend or family member to get you started. But those that are still “practicing” Hubbard’s tech Fail hard and wind up in fraud or ineffective management, consulting, tech, real estate and sales industries.

        Starting your own business with no funds, no home, no car, likely poor health, no insurance? That is a dream, but can be accomplished over the years. Scientologists who come out and still believe in the Instantaneous Gratification and One Step Fixes All Hubbard methodologies go through some very mentally and physically hills to climb, especially mentally. Today, however, there are more ex’s and more real world how-to guidelines for those emerging than ever before. It is Still not going to be easy, though some try to PR the “tech” will make it all happen. The longer one has been In, the more unworkable and faulty concepts and methods of problem solving and management they will need to examine and shed.

        • stateofcircle

          I’m mostly referring to the exes who have disavowed Sciloonacy all together, like the Headleys, Jefferson Hawkins, John Brosseau, etc. The combination of realizing Flubbard was an idiot and their ingrained sense of hard work, perseverance and self-sufficiency can be a force to be reckoned with.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Absolutely awesome exceptional people you have named here. Besides intellect and skills, they have that entrepreneur DNA. Most don’t. But most ex staff I would say are excellent personnel potential because of that hard work ethic. It’s all a matter of getting to That point in a job interview where you are down to personal character. There are tons of people with hard work ethics that are still out of a job right now. Education is the key for those who make it out the smoothest and fastest. With online education or 2 yr community college inclusions of life experiences counting for something, there’s a fast track for them.

      • Mrs Libnish

        Example: John Brousseau

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          JB is the exception.

      • N. Graham

        And then there are the ones who take a lot and turn it into nothing.

  • tetloj

    And Tommy would, were he not Tommy called, retain that dear deception which he owes without that title

  • 0tessa

    They were no doubt loaded enough to pay their freeloaderbill.

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    What I want to know is if they have a conscience and if that conscience has grown in proportion to the time they have been out or if it is still being snuffed out by auditing or stunted by self preservation.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Take a glance over at the parents and the kids’ upbringing.

  • KNMF

    Tommy doesn’t have to run-crying out of interviews, anymore. Hopefully for Jessica, Tommy’s gay-cure doesn’t wear off once he’s outside the auspices of the cult.

    • Mrs Libnish

      Hmmm..now I’m gonna have to re-watch some Tommy vids to see if my gaydar goes off.

  • 0tessa

    Tommy Davis: from one real estate company to another. What’s the difference.

  • F_Randy_Hullabaloo

    OT: In case you missed it, you might like to see Tom Cruise’s shameless ‘flacking’ for Walmart at the company’s shareholders’ meeting:

    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/6/11/striking_workers_bangladeshi_activist_challenge_walmart

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      so, is he applying for a job as Child Slave Labor Managing Director?

      • BosonStark

        I figure he’s trying to get in with the “fixers” Walmart used in Mexico, so they can boom the Org program and take over the Catholic church there. With his friend Tommy in the real estate game, the Sciloontologists are now unstoppable.

    • Observer

      Tom Cruise and Walmart–how the mighty have fallen! Schaaaaaadenfruede! Oh, sure, he’s no doubt getting a buttload of money for it, but all the money in the world can’t buy character or patch up his damaged image.

      • Ivan Mapother

        Actually, Tom is bringing Sea Org tech to Wal-Mart. He’s showing their management you can get people to work 120 hours a week for $50. Next, declare yourself a religion and you don’t pay taxes and the government leaves you alone. Wal-Mart originally wanted to import millions of Asian workers to man the stores but the cost of shipping containers was too high so they called the clams for a better solution.

        • tetloj

          On fire IM

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Absolutely. Off to kitchen for plastic wrap or umbrella…

            [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/f0dhjo.jpg[/IMG]

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          now that was a coffee-spitting laugh!

        • FistOfXenu

          Yup. TC’s putting ethics ruthlessly in on Walmart. When he’s done there he’ll move on to migrant fruit pickers.

      • Miss Davidoff

        Did you notice how often he uses the words “admire” and “admiration” in the clip above? Good ole Tom is applying standard tech here. By telling Walmart(!) multiple times that he´s admiring them, he is inundating them with the most valuable particle of them all (Ron said that´s what admiration is). He is delivering “exchange in abundance”, no matter how much he was paid for his gig. Probably he expects to open the inroads to his cult widely for Walmart executives and staff by flowing the magical admiration particles to them.

        How strange is that: “I really admire, admire, admire you, cheap old supermarket chain with a world wide image problem. No come and join my cult.”

        No wonder Jon Attack thinks that many Scientologist recover far too slowly. Spherical megatons of idiocy crammed in their heads.

        • George Layton

          I haven’t read it yet. Did he say he admired them enough to shop there?

          • FistOfXenu

            LOL! Maybe for lifts for inside his shoes?

          • Miss Davidoff

            I listened to it a second time. Actually he doesn´t say much at all. Content free blather… admiration… making a difference… role model… admiration.

    • Captain Howdy

      Shilling for CofS and Walmart certainly balances out the scale of injustice for Ole Tom. If Walmart really wanted to fight hunger in America they could start by paying their employees a living wage. Hugh Jackman is shilling for WM also..douche!

      • N. Graham

        All TC needs to do is tag along with Dennis Rodman on his next North Korea adventure and he’ll have a real Axis of Evil combination for his resume: N. Korea, WalMart, and $cientology.

        • Captain Howdy

          HAH!

  • Roman

    Tommy Davis was on an all-out mission in 2011 to recover disaffected Scientologists – visiting the likes of Michael Fairman and a slough of OTs uninvited at their doors across the country. His posse of shitheads were Mike Sutter, Marion Pouw and Kathy True. He was the head of the bunch and acted an air of pomposity reserved only for the Liberaces of the world. I highly doubt this was a case of Anne Archer wanting to spend more time with her son.This was a case of Tommy Davis sucking at his post and realizing the fact. He had created huge debacles on Wolf Blitzer, CNN and BBC multiple times with his flat-footed cocky responses regarding disconnection, OT3 materials and the famous defectors – Marty and Mike – with his recorded open discussion with the St. Pete Times. He really sucked as a spokesperson. His wife obviously sucked at her job as her ONE parishioner she was supposed to babysit, divorced her husband quite clandestinely and absconded with her daughter and a new security detail – only to rejoin a Catholic church the day after the divorce was a done deal. I truly think the two are still hardcore Scientologists but they were embarrassed to no end for how their current careers as sycophant psycho-babbling pitbulls for a diminutive cult tyrant. I say everyone should show them the same courtesy they bestowed on others trying to live their own life – and we should all contact them with frivolous requests – like getting them back in the Church.

    • EnthralledObserver

      I wanted to say this… so I’m glad you did.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      I also have heard a story or two about him being in the RPF, working hard, and not admitting who he was and helping out some of the other RPFers. The truth is, I’m not ready to put him in a box, label him, and call it done. I’m on the cusp, mind you. He has been brainwashed, abused, and raised by a woman who makes men’s testicles contract. Perhaps contrition will come in time–but maybe not until his family passes and DM is wearing an orange jumpsuit. Or perhaps in a few years, a tell-all if his ego needs it like Marty. It will be interesting to watch.

      • Roman

        I dig your candor, but I’ve dealt with this guy in person and he’s kin to a bipolar kid who won’t share his potato chips with anyone else at the corner table – by himself. I mean, he’s truly a turd. As far as kind stories on the RPF, that program has the side effect of humbling most anyone. I’m sure he was a Care Bear on ambien if he was put on the RPF, but I realy don’t think he ever did that program as he was dealing with me and only a few months later I hear he had relocated to Texas. It would be great if he spoke out, but that would really make him look like more of an idiot than it would be exposing the Church.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          i guess, as they say, it’s always worse than what you think

          • Roman

            The truth is the punch was already thrown by Tommy and Jessica by leaving and pursuing wog careers. The damage will come when the masses of Scientologists hear about it. It was just like Mike Rinder. I heard about it earlier since I was well connected outside of Scientology, but most Scientologists didn’t hear about it for years.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              “but most Scientologists didn’t hear about it for years.”

              I guess upper management disappearing from the scene is not that noteworthy

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Yeah, wonder what the standard shore story is for missing executives?

              Edit: Oh them?…You didn’t hear? They are now running our new Ideal Org on Neptune..

            • RMycroft

              What missing executives?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              You can hide One or Two PR disasters. You can Shore Story One or Two disappeared people. You can order one or two opposing rules and policies.

              But not even the deaf, dumb and blind can not hear, not know, and not see the current massive fraud, blackmail, and family and friends and staff disappearances and disconnections.

              Another reason why I say all that’s left are the crims, narcissists or mentally challenged. The whales do Not care!

            • Roman

              You’d be surprised how well these PR disasters are overlooked in the Church. Right before I got declared, I was with a group of my peers in the Church having coffee and a point that was made in the discussion was, “You’re always going to have people getting declared or ex-Scientologists attacking the Church. There’s always going to be that percentage for sure.” I mean, so in their eyes, at least the half dozen I was with that night who were a good microcosm of contemporary Scientologists, viewed these defections and attacks as “the cost of doing business” in a sense.

            • Missionary Kid

              The whales aren’t treated like the ordinary clams, so why should they care?

            • FistOfXenu

              “But not even the deaf, dumb and blind can not hear, not know, and not see”

              Wish I could agree but the history of Stalin making unpersons tells me you can’t under estimate the effects of terror like that. If Dwarfenfuhrer Midget says “Tommy Davis isn’t a senior exec. Tommy Davis was never a senior exec. Tommy who?” the little voice in the head agrees because it makes the fear less.

            • Miss Davidoff

              ˄˄ This.

            • Lady Squash

              I agree FistofXenu. It isn’t about being blind or deaf. It is more Manchurian Candidate.

            • richelieu jr

              “But not even the deaf, dumb and blind can not hear, not know, and not see”

              Yes, but they sure can play a mean pinball!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              The Whales Weep Not. (D. H. Lawrence)

              They say the sea is cold, but the sea contains

              the hottest blood of all, and the wildest, the most urgent.All the whales in the wider deeps, hot are they, as they urge

              on and on, and dive beneath the icebergs.

              The right whales, the sperm-whales, the hammer-heads, the killers

              there they blow, there they blow, hot wild white breath out ofthe sea!And they rock, and they rock, through the sensual ageless ages

              on the depths of the seven seas,

              and through the salt they reel with drunk delight

              and in the tropics tremble they with love

              and roll with massive, strong desire, like gods.

              Then the great bull lies up against his bride

              in the blue deep bed of the sea,

              as mountain pressing on mountain, in the zest of life:

              and out of the inward roaring of the inner red ocean of whale-blood

              the long tip reaches strong, intense, like the maelstrom-tip, andcomes to rest

              in the clasp and the soft, wild clutch of a she-whale’sfathomless body.And over the bridge of the whale’s strong phallus, linking thewonder of whales

              the burning archangels under the sea keep passing, back andforth,

              keep passing, archangels of bliss

              from him to her, from her to him, great Cherubim

              that wait on whales in mid-ocean, suspended in the waves of thesea

              great heaven of whales in the waters, old hierarchies.And enormous mother whales lie dreaming suckling their whale-tender young

              and dreaming with strange whale eyes wide open in the waters ofthe beginning and the end.And bull-whales gather their women and whale-calves in a ring

              when danger threatens, on the surface of the ceaseless flood

              and range themselves like great fierce Seraphim facing the threat

              encircling their huddled monsters of love.

              And all this happens in the sea, in the salt

              where God is also love, but without words:

              and Aphrodite is the wife of whales

              most happy, happy she!and Venus among the fishes skips and is a she-dolphin

              she is the gay, delighted porpoise sporting with love and the sea

              she is the female tunny-fish, round and happy among the males

              and dense with happy blood, dark rainbow bliss in the sea.

            • q-bird

              nice poem DDD… an illustration ~ (iffn ya don’t mind)

            • Roman

              I was big on arguing what happened to missing execs and the common rejoinder was “Oh we’re still on great terms, can’t wait to have them back, they’re just handling family issues”, or something of that ilk. Real smarmy type responses that really didn’t answer anything.

            • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

              Heber who? Diana who?

        • villagedianne

          If Tommy Davis is a person who is socially awkward or does not relate easily to people, then maybe that is partly what drew him to the Sea Org. Maybe he thought it would be better for him than the real world.

          • stateofcircle

            That’d be my guess. When he went to Columbia he was just another smart, good looking rich kid out of hundreds and couldn’t deal with not being important, doted on and looked up to, so he went to the SO where he was actually somebody and felt he would be regarded as royalty. Big fish in a small pond versus small fish in a big pond.

            • BosonStark

              Tommy spent only one semester at Columbia. It would have been a shocking environment for Tommy, to realize all these other smart kids not only were unaware of Scientology, those who were thought of it as a joke.

            • FistOfXenu

              Did he fail nuclear physics too? :P

          • Roman

            Tommy Davis more fits the cult leader attributes. Openly very charming with a shit eaten smile. Flaunts a Breitling and sucks up to anyone with a higher position than him – probably why everyone says he was a sweet kid back at CC. David Miscavige was also very nice on his way to the top. So are politicians, etc. It’s when he’s behind closed doors or lording over people he can control that his fangs come out and he turns into this, “I’m better than you” attitude. Obviously that attitude is the swan song and dirge to every erstwhile leader. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he took it bending over from DM a couple times just to win some favor.

            • richelieu jr

              DM and Tommy bonded over $250 haircuts and fast cars. The stroked each other for a few months then DM showed him who was top hyena in that circus and made him carry his water…

              Tommy has all the signs of being a psychopath (including his glee in reporting he had pushed Sweeney to the brink of psychosis) and if he is capable of any real emotion it is feeling sorry for poor Tommy right now.

              Did the church making him that way Who cafres, he ahs left a trail of broken lives behind him while he continues to luxuriate nt he lifestyle of the America n Aristocracy. I actually thought the cancer scare (which never happened) might have been good for them- Not kill her, but teach them that some things are handed out rigch and poor an Scilon alike (nad that being ‘clear’ won’t do damn bit of good!)

              Whatever god there may or may not be spared them that, and therefore they will live their pitiful cruel, nasty existences until they die, probably not even having time to realize that L Ron was full of shit and they are not coming back. They’ll never know that all the pain the caused, all the lies they told, was for nothing. Too bad.

        • Leslie Stipe

          ” Care Bear on ambien”

          I laughed all day at work because of this. Thank you.

          • Roman

            Glad I could brighten your day :)

      • BuryTheNuts2

        “and raised by a woman who makes men’s testicles contract.”

        That bitch makes my testicles contract and I don’t even have any!

        • RMycroft

          And she looks brainwashed.

          • 1subgenius

            When she asked “Do I look brainwashed?” I so wish John would have said, “Indeed.”

            • stillgrace

              I thought that the look on Sweeney’s face at that exact moment, sorta encompassed the word “indeed” … just not spoken aloud.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I thought it looked a little more like…..”well, Duh”.

            • stillgrace

              That works, too!

            • Miss Davidoff

              Exactly. He said it the British way and that was sooo sweet.

            • RMycroft

              Hand to chin, “Hmmmmm…”

          • monkeyknickers

            How. Dare. You!

            • Jgg2012

              He’s right.

            • monkeyknickers

              RMycroft is referencing an exchange between John Sweeney and Ann Archer during JS’s first Panaroma special on Scientology. :))) And I referenced him right back.

              Or do you know that and I’m not getting it. THAT would hardly surprise me. :)

            • Jgg2012

              I knew that.

            • monkeyknickers

              Ah. I lost one of my frontal lobes in the war. But I have a prosthetic. :)

          • Miss Davidoff

            Lol.

        • richelieu jr

          To think I used to masturbate to that woman.

          Now, even my penis looks at me reproachfully as if I were Miscavige and it was Tommy suffering my abuse…

          • Spackle Motion

            TMI. Wow….

        • sister wendy

          wait, wait! I lost the thread- which person? Which mother?

          • richelieu jr

            Anne the Archer.

        • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

          There’s something very icky about Scientologists. I used to have a bit of a crush on Will Smith. Now he’s been robotized and makes my clit shrivel.

          (I had outpatient surgery today and am still “drunk” from the anasthesia. I’ll probably regret this comment tomorrow.)

      • stateofcircle

        I believe the story you’re referring to was when he was on the EPF in Clearwater. A successful veterinarian had been convinced to join the SO and was on the EPF with him. She had said that Tommy was nice and humble, and he had asked her for some money, which she gave him and he eventually paid back. I believe this was before his PR blitz. I will try to find the original story, but from what I remember, he joined the SO directly in CCLA and didn’t do the EPF, and after some sort of fuck up they sent him to Clearwater to do, partially as punishment. Like I said, I may be getting a few facts wrong but that’s the general gist of it. I’ll dig around for the original story.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          yes, i think that is the one!

        • richelieu jr

          Yeah, I read that too- Perhaps in Wright’s book…

          What a word where acting polite and repaying a debt is considered exceptionally good behaviour.

          So for once in his life, Tommy didn’t pull rank or destroy someone’s life and acted like a normal human being. Let’s all pull out our fillings and make them into a crown for his majesty, Tommy the Benevolent…

          • Miss Davidoff

            For many $ologists paying back a debt to a coclam is unbelievably good behavior. Definitely worth a mention.

            • richelieu jr

              Sad, but true Miss D.

      • J.W.

        Raised by a woman who makes men’s testicles contract? What does that mean?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      An education (non sci!) fund for all the children deprived of one while in the scientology “camps and ranch resorts” would be a nice touch. And a retirement home for all the seniors kicked to the curb with nothing.

      Oh yeah, while I’m on it, how about an international PR Media blitz with the headline: I Lied. Scientology Disconnects Families Always To This Day. Redeem yourself for just this One destructive Lie.

      • Roman

        He really should make right what he did. The rest of us had to.

        • Observer

          More importantly, the rest of you *wanted* to. That’s where a person’s character shines through.

          • FistOfXenu

            Big yes to that Obs. Real character isn’t what you can get away with it’s what you know you can’t live with until you fix it. When I see people like Eric and Roman and so many others here square up to what they did and decide to fix it I’m proud to be the same species as them. Then I look at somebody else white washing his guilt with all that damn hero warrior bullshit and I’m ashamed to even know he exists.

            • Roman

              This might be one of the most intelligent replies yet. I was born into it so I could justify getting brainwashed until 21 more effectively than the Marty and Mike’s of the world. They committed heinous acts for 3 fucking decades and now that they’ve been on the other side of the fence for 4 years, you have Marty touting himself as a Warrior and writing as if he were a messiah. These guys didn’t leave because they saw evil being done. They left because Miscavige demoted them from king bullies like himself to lackeys who did his bidding and cleaned septic tanks when they weren’t on stage for him. I think even the independent field needs a wake up call to realize that they’re still selling the same shit, just in a different package.

            • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

              Mike’s parents got interested in Scientology when he was 4 and took him on two pilgrimages to Saint Hill when he was 11 and 12. So I don’t think getting involved was his fault, either. I have hope for his future — I think he just needs more time.

              Marty and Tommy though? Blah.

            • Interested

              I agree. Listen to Marty when he talks on the programme Scientologist s at war. He is self promoting. Only accepts guilt for the camera. This is the guy who blew after only 4 days in the hole. And what about all those he sent to the RPF for months or years to be brainwashed. Mike I believe really suffered and I think feels real guilt. Neither of them have come clean about the Lisa McPherson case and how they destroyed evidence. And what did they do to the ME for her to change her mind. Perhaps if they did come clean they could be prosecuted?? Mike and Tommy I think enjoyed their little power over the masses.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Well, I know a certain someone who will be moving to Texas soon and is struggling to get into college for a new life. Yes, I’m talking about Derek Bloch who definitely Was Disconnected from his family, robbed of an education, home life, and basic social skills and life experiences and moral and financial support.

          Derek Bloch is representative of Why I won’t just go away and shut up.

          • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

            Speaking of this someone . . . Derek, please provide a link to your go fund me site again so we can help in this very worthy cause.

          • Roman

            People who are capable of whistleblowing and effectively damaging the Church and its reach have a responsibility to do so. For there are many people who get out of the Sea Org who, and I quote, “can’t even balance a checkbook at 40″. Many of these people have been glorified gardeners or janitors for the last 3 decades thinking they were weeding gardens for their planet’s “eternity” only to find that they’re broke with no marketable business skills and without a single person to call a friend if they ever decide to leave the Church.

          • aquaclara

            this is why.
            and I still can’t get the picture of the girl who finished her purification rundown out of my head, along with the utterly incapable scilons who “liked” that mom’s message.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Testify.

    • richelieu jr

      Being an apologist for that cult and having to smile while Miscavige his thumping you in the chest threatening you and not letting you sleep as well as screaming down your earpiece the YSCOHB is an impossible task. Tommy did it as well as any morality free, boot-licking evil lackey possibly could– Hell he even got divorced and remarries on command showing that Little Tommy took orders from Little Davey as well.

      Even his commitment to SeaOrg was only skin deep as he always had a cool gig to fall back on no hand-outs for ex-scilons or fear of homelessness for little ‘My Armani is an assigned uniform’. In French we say ‘Il ment comme il respire (‘he lies as he breathes’). He never had to suffer the way he made others suffer.

      He is even worse than Miscavige because he did it all for.. nothing. And you can bet he doesn’t believe now, but puts up a pretense s he can keep sucking on mom’s $cilon titty. She should have kept the afterbirth and thrown him out. The hair would be worse but the integrity a damn sight higher.

      What a scumbag.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Yippee!

      • FistOfXenu

        Stop holding back Cardinal. Get it off your chest. You’ll feel better.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Breathe.

        In. Out. In. Out…

      • Troy MacGyver

        Funny,Tommy has boasted numerous times about his personal wealth,”I don’t ever need to work again,” Tacky sure,but it’s great to know he got his cash from hid daddy who doesn’t drink the kool-aid. I’ve been around wealthy people the majority of my life and it’s funny how those that rely on Daddy’s cash and contacts end up being consumed with their own identity crises, yet love to show other’s their stupid watches and flashy cars. Half the time they turn into mentally ill insecure morons,especially when they can’t wait for their controlling parents to die. My siblings who take my parent’s money are still controlled by them.

  • Poison Ivy

    Off-topic (somewhat), hats off to our friend George Orwell, whose 1984 may be heading back to the bestseller list thanks to the NSA spying revelations. Maybe a Clam or two will accidentally pick it up and have a revelation…

    http://n.pr/11GRtmU

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      thanks for that tidbit!

    • Kim O’Brien

      people always freak out when a black guy has some power . at least it gets the baggers to read something other the The Blaze …too bad they did not read the ..ya know … the patriot act …but it was kinda long …and there were no animals in it

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        lol

      • FistOfXenu

        And no pictures of weapons.

    • Missionary Kid

      There are none so blind as those who will not see. They won’t have any revelations.

  • BosonStark

    From “Tommy Xenu Davis” to “Thomas Xenu Davis” — just as long as he’s keeping it sacred.

    Maybe the leukemia rumor was started by the OSA, to explain when Jessica lost her job as Katie Holmes’ handler. So, this probably means Jessica is no longer Katie Holmes’ new best friend.

    It’s odd seeing Tommy looking casual in an Armani cashmere pullover. That must have been an adjustment.

    • stateofcircle

      I remember reading something awhile ago that all but confirmed the cancer rumor was OSA. If I find it, I’ll post. It certainly would make perfect sense, as the sympathy generated from such a rumor would subdue any other questions about them leaving. And it’s not like OSA has any sort of moral line they won’t cross.

      • BosonStark

        It would be interesting to know the timeline and details of the relationship between Katie Holmes and Jessica. Did Holmes catch on to the fact that Jessica was literally acting as her new best friend to report any or all that she said, especially about Cruise. Suri or Scientology, back to Scientology? By how many weeks/months did Jessica’s separation from Katie, or her reassignment to do something else for the Sea Org, and the leukemia rumor, precede the divorce?

        If this did happen — Katie putting her food own and saying “I don’t want to even see that woman again,” how could Scientology explain or handle the information that Katie no longer wanted to see Jessica?

        I think the leukemia rumor could have started two ways — deliberately or organically — and quite possibly had its origin within Scientology itself.

        After the debacle with Nicole Kidman, I’m sure there was a lot of pressure to make Katie Holmes into a REAL Scientologist. And I’m sure in the beginning Katie played along as being very open to it.

        • Sherbet

          Once again, Boson, we’re all reminded of how juicy Katie’s tell-all would be, if she ever produces one. So many unanswered questions about one of the freakiest marriages in Hollywood…

  • media_lush

    ” Recently, the company has been buying up thousands of foreclosed homes in places like South Florida.”

    Truly the malicious arsehole side of real estate development…. how fitting.

  • Xique

    Poor Mr and Mrs Thomas Davis, they’ve gone PTS to the middle class, wog jobs and everything.

    • Observer

      Zing!!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      The Davis and Feshbach Family middle class? not to worry

      • Xique

        Hardly middle class, but taking a day job with other lowlife wog types? How blasé .

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Okay, wild guess here. Her job is to hire those staging consultants to dress up the multimillion mansions and use the office workers to do the actual work. She shows up to give Mrs. Bucksalot a tour of the grounds, checking to make sure she Knows the Ann Archer connection, jumps into the Jaguar, soaks in the sauna after her long entire Hour of grueling labor, and rests up for next month, for yet another entire Hour of hard work.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Well now we know where Robert Palmer’s dancers go when they retire…

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        yeah, i don’t think they will be standing in line for proletariat soup anytime soon.

    • 0tessa

      When you are Middle Class you are PTS. When you are Upper Middle Class your are SP.

      • Xique

        If I remember correctly, lower class is made up of DBs; degraded beings. Iyiyi

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    I had been impressed by Tommy Davis and I am sure that I was not the only one. He stood in front of the scrutiny of the media and defended a strange cult that was, really, indefensible. He made mistakes but who wouldn’t? You would think that a handsome, intelligent, well-connected man who can think on his feet, would also land on his feet. It seems he has.

    It is also not surprising that he is with a real estate firm. Used cars, investment diamonds, tobacco company flak, hey, even promoter for big pharma would be right up his alley.

    But, from what I have seen, the skills from Scientology are not always transferable. An effective person within the cult can become totally ineffective outside of it. Hubbard, himself, was the ultimate leader within Scientology, but couldn’t effectively command a small boat during WW2. The bluster and lies work only in a certain context. Outside of Scientology these people are sometimes just kooks and yahoos. The salesmanship doesn’t work, the management skills don’t work and the hard work and positiveness don’t mean much when doing a minimum wage job.

    It is not just that they don’t get a useful education within Scientology. They are taught to be ineffective by actually believing that communication is the universal solvent, believing that they (as clears) are as superior to the normal as the normal is to the institutionalized, by believing motivation through fear works on people who have options, and by believing that most people don’t think for themselves.

    Let’s see how he does. He might end up in a wog jail. I can only hope.

    • villagedianne

      It seems that a lot of former Sea Org do well in the real world because they are very hard workers, that is, if they can pull themselves together psychologically, and get out of the mental trap.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        I have to admit that I haven’t seen a lot. I imagine that selling real estate would be perfect for a clever person who is willing to work 24 hours a day. The credentials for selling Real Estate are easy to obtain and hustle means an awful lot. I can’t see Tommy running a large company, starting at the top. I can see him motivating a crew of salesman but I can also see him destroying a crew of salesman, who would rather work for someone else. The adage fits perfectly, “If you believe that I have some Florida real estate to sell you.” But I have seen people who got a Sea Org education instead of an education, very smug people who have no idea how competitive the world outside Scientology is, and exes who have lost their people skills. It’s just another thing that Scientology takes away from people. I am glad that what you have seen is different from what I have seen, because what I have seen is frightening.

        • villagedianne

          No, it’s nothing I have seen personally, just read about, like Jeff Hawkins and Karen de la Carriere. When Hawkins got a job in the real world, he barely knew what breaks were, and had to be told by his boss that he should take his mandated breaks. Maybe the people who are successful not only got themselves out of the mental trap, but are very talented to begin with.

          • Spackle Motion

            I agree. Tommy may be a bright guy, but he needs real life and financial skills that he probably lacks. I would bet on his failure more than his success. He didn’t spend a lot of time in the school of Dad’s Financial lessons and learning how to be ethical may be hard for him.

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            Thanks for the response, again, Villagedianne. It was good to have to rethink my experience in the light of your comment.

            Jeff Hawkins does seem to be a guy that has picked himself up and done well. Notice the period? Period.

            I am glad that Karen de la Carriere is on our side. She is articulate, well-connected and courageous– BUT. But, I have to suspect that she is still examining her changed position as an ex-Scientologist. I say this humbly, and without knowing her, but I would be lying by omission if I didn’t at least mention that. Hopefully, she will emerge, in the end, as someone as good or better than she would have been had Scientology never existed.

            I am sure there are thousands of exes walking the streets for whom things worked out just fine. I know some of them. I would like to think I am one of them. I must also add that I got in and out of it pretty quickly. Most of my knowledge comes not from my own involvement but from the involvement of six other family members, one of whom was at it for 23 years. Another remains in it as a member of the Freezone after about forty years. Though, I can’t say what they would be like had their lives been taken back to the time they entered Scientology and relived as though it had never been there, I am pretty sure that some of them would be better educated and more wealthy. They might have more stable relationships. They would be less likely to accept quick-fix schemes in their lives. They would know themselves better. They would be less skeptical about the people and institutions society empowers to do things for us and explain things to us. They would be less arrogant. But for some of them, Scientology is ancient history, something that happened about the same time Humphrey was defeated by Nixon for the presidency. For me, it is bit like being a Jew who escaped Germany in 1933, after being beaten up only once by the brownshirts. I avoided the Scientologists for many years and then found out there was a movement against them when Time had its article in 1991. Soon after that I found out that there was a local movement. I became a small part of it. Coming to this forum doesn’t interfere with the rest of my life. Attending the occasional protest or writing a letter to an editor doesn’t either.

            I digress.

            I think of one local ex. About the time I was a member he had a huge Canadian hit; it eventually went platinum. Think of what it would have been like to be a person in his late teens or early twenties, taking the HQS course and be told that the young man, just down the row, is a big rock star and says in his success stories that he owes it to Scientology. Years later, when I met him in the protests he introduced himself with his name, his OT level and his ability level as an auditor. I found him to be argumentative, capricious and nasty. I later found out that he was then broke, on psychiatric drugs, and that he believes that he controls not only his own body but another body in a different country. And, I know we all have our faults but I have to wonder if those faults would be more minor or of a character that doesn’t ruin everything else. I mean, you walk into the office (or stand in line at the soup kitchen for that matter) and say to the person beside you, “My body in Toulouse is doing just fine. It met a really nice woman and we went to see the Courbet exhibit at the Art Gallery in Paris”. Whoever you say that to is going to think you are crazy and there is no coming back from it. That was about ten years ago. Hopefully, today everything is fine for him (but I doubt it).

            I have more experiences but not many more I want to go into in this forum.

  • Sherbet

    Enough of this speculation! Tony has a call and email into the Thomas Davises, and, when they get back to him, we’ll hear the real scoop. Now, where’s that snark font…

  • Marc

    One of the policies about leaving in Scientology is “to leave the door open – always. L. Ron Hubbard says even for SP’s, “you leave the door open a crack.”

    At the Int Base, there is an “advice” policy for JUST the Int Base about people leaving. It says when they leave, not only does the door get shut completely, but it gets bolted & welded shut and will never be opened again. Sort of a “shame on them for leaving the top” sort of thing.

    Not sure how Thomas & Jessica came to leave, but they left. Some people become part of that place and some become enemies of that place. Unless they are active spies, (which I doubt) they are enemies. They probably don’t think this. This is the fact. They will figure that out soon enough if they have not already.

    Anyone who has ever been to the Base knows the score. It is Dave Miscavige vs. everybody else. When you are working at the base you are at various stages of “against Dave” depending on your past and where you currently work. Once you work for Dave and then leave, you seal your fate. He already hates the people around him working FOR him. After 15 years of watching him and those around him, the thing that happens most is him yelling at people and them leaving.

    Last time I had dealings with Thomas & Jessica they were telling my employees working for me was like working for Hitler. One of the guys was cut off from his family because he chose to stay on and keep his job. On the other hand, they took many people that had been previously declared SP’s and made deals with them to be able to talk to their families as long as they NEVER spoke with me. Those people signed the deal and as far as I know, they have been speaking with their families ever since. Oh, and I talk to them all the time as well!

    As far as them revealing some big new thing that we do not yet know, not sure that will ever happen. They left for a reason. They did not want to be there anymore. Tommy blew at least twice before. I have always said that he would leave again and he did. Good for him.

    When Thomas & Jessica do what they want, when they want and don’t care about Dave Miscavige, then they will have left. Now they just work somewhere else.

    Good luck guys. Give me a ring. You know my number. Maybe after that, I will stop giving out yours.

    • EnthralledObserver

      “Give me a ring. You know my number. Maybe after that, I will stop giving out yours.”
      I understand why Claire likes you so much… :D lulz

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        They are truly one of those rare beautiful matches. You can see it in their children’s eyes and smiles. Thanks, Marc, for the insider info. The Hole is like no other place in the world. It sounds like it IS its own universe where even gravity doesn’t apply, or 2 + 2 = 5 in Trash Can Land.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Will Smith Math!!!

          • Observer

            Now I’m wondering what a world with Will Smith physics would be like.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Extinct!

            • RMycroft

              Danger is real. Reality is a choice.

            • FistOfXenu

              “David Miscavige is a raging maniac. Reality is an agreed upon apparency”
              Fixed.

            • 0tessa

              This is the ultimate truth.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              and Science ….pfffffft !

            • Missionary Kid

              A black hole.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            He studied under Winston.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              You know I can go a couple different directions with that…
              And in one of them Winston could be John Travolta…….

              ;)

            • FistOfXenu

              Thanks BTN. You said that better than I was gonna.

        • dbloch7986

          Scientologists believe that gravity is a force created by spirits that want to stay on the surface of the planet and if we suddenly decided we didn’t want to be here anymore, gravity would no longer exist. That’s the truth.

          • Poison Ivy

            What about the animals, plants, and rocks that are subject to gravity? What would happen to them?

            • George Layton

              As soon as all the people are clear, they can start on those.

            • dbloch7986

              If you think really hard, they will all disappear too, just like gravity.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Darn it, now I remember that. Well, we know that Hubbard’s tech is superior to science tech, and even if it isn’t, it doesn’t matter if the science is wrong, as long as you learn, study, apply Hubbard’s tech correctly and damn well Know that it is correct, and make sure everyone else applies it correctly…or else! hah. Boy, if I had a nickel.

            • dbloch7986

              Science is not necessarily wrong, it’s just struggling to explain what Hubbard already figured out YEARS ago!

            • Observer

              Hahaha! The snark is strong in this one!

            • black _developer

              yeah it’s wrong – idiot

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              wut

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            I was whizzing through the comments trying to catch up and my scrolling finger froze. I adore the snark and humor here… but I often can not tell the difference between that and what is truth. Are you serious, D? All kidding aside… really?

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      Thanks for the comment Marc! I would like to refresh everyone’s memory about Tony’s article last year where he reported and revealed recordings of Tommy putting the squeeze on Marc’s employee. Here: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/08/tommy_davis_sci.php

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        After listening to that again, I am more inclined to take back my earlier comment. That clam is a slippery sucker who has been around too long–and has no hesitancy in wreaking havoc on one’s digestive track! He deserves to get tossed back in the ocean.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          The majority get suckered in. It’s only a tiny fraction that people like Tommy are a part of out of the whole picture. Criminals, Narcissists, Sociopaths, Snake Oil Salesmen, and Mentally Challenged…..these are the ones who keep the lies burning, who do the actual dirty work.

        • Roman

          I figured you’d reconsider.

    • dbloch7986

      I believe that Tommy was already wealthy before he left.

      I have no interest in what he is up to these days, or her. Much as I have no interest in what Marty Rathbun is doing or Mike Rinder.

      They are all the bullies at the top that stomped on the people underneath them. They feed off of controlling others and they will do whatever they can to maintain some semblance of that control, even if it is imaginary.

      Those guys only had the opportunity to leave because they were the privileged few who were given the means and had nothing to lose.

      People like me, at the bottom, were the ones who got stomped on and lost everything.

      People like Tommy and M&M only left once it went from them doing the bullying, to them being bullied. Where I left for my sanity, they left to preserve their egos.

      • scnethics

        I was just going to say “fuck these two”, but you said it better.

      • 0tessa

        They had enough money to preserve their egos too. And to pay their freeloader bill.

      • Dean Fox

        I’m not interested in what they’re up to but feel they have a moral obligation to come out about what they know because of the part they played and the damage they caused to others. Screw their egos.

      • Cathy Estes Sparks

        Probably important to note that the “family wealth” of Tommy/Thomas is from his father, AA’s 1st husband, who is NOT a scientologist. Just sayin’.

      • Troy MacGyver

        I too have to question those who still believe in this bullshit even if they’ve left they church. They all have a new shot at lives but carry around those tin can machines and,”preach”,about all this crap when they know all about what a,”DANGEROUS CULT”, it is that continues to destroy people’s lives. Continuing to waste their lives hoping to find out if Xenu….They had their tounges up Miscabbage’s ass for so long that they still suffer from falling out of his favor. Now they star in their own,”Jews for Jesus” nonsense. He beat me and beat people for him but come on over and I’ll get my can’s out and give you a personality test. Of course you’ll be more fucked up than me.

    • q-bird

      “Those people signed the deal and as far as I know, they have been
      speaking with their families ever since. Oh, and I talk to them all the
      time as well!”

      I LOVE this admission! Yay for true & real communication!

  • stateofcircle

    Am I correct in saying that THOMAS’s real father, William Davis, is not a Slientologist? So at least if he did decide to spill, he would have he support of his father, who, incidentally, is the source of his wealth – not Archer (not that her finances are paltry by any stretch). I am very curious about Jessica’s current dynamic (the English definition of dynamic, not Blubbard’s) with her clammy family an Thomas’s with Archer and Jastow. Tommy went to Colombia for a year then decided to join the SO, and Acher wanted him to go to college. And seeing as his family was very VIP, he had some sense of the real world and had to know most of what he was spewing was bullshit. I really want to know what his mother thought when Thomas was front and center refuting all of the abuse and disconnection claims. It’s obviously so very ironic that, without a doubt, they have and will continue being threatened with disconnection if they step out of line. I wonder if Archer would a actually disconnect from him? I really can’t even speculate on that. The Feshbach’s seem like they would probably disconnect from Jessica.

    There are two roads for Tommy: One is the Marty road, wherein if he keeps quiet, the general consensus will be that he is an asshole, or, the full-on ex route, which will be at least somewhat redemptive in the eyes of critics. I’m sure His Midgetsty is weilding the power of total personal and professional destruction over them, and they don’t want to risk their current happy lifestyles for. I highly doubt they’re still active Sciloons. Give it another year maybe. If the current shitstorm keeps getting worse and the cult keeps loosing their power, they might just talk….or be called into a courtroom. We all know the countless affidavits they undoubtedly signed are about as useful as a billion year contract.

    • Miss Davidoff

      “His Midgetsty” – lol.

      • Spackle Motion

        How about “His unroyal shortness”?

        • Miss Davidoff

          Royal Lowness?

  • Observer

    Is it just me, or today’s comment snark quality setting on Super Duper Deluxe? I take my hat off to one and all.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      All things Tommy Davis seem to have that effect!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        True that.

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Just for the hair!

    • Minion Gayle

      Hers or Tommy’s?

      And, btw, I really want to smack that smirk off his face.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        “Hers or Tommy’s?”

        YES

    • Sherbet

      This is kind of a cool picture. It’s a shame who’s in it.

      • Captain Howdy

        Another childhood photo.

        • Sherbet

          Oh, no! He’s possessed! His eyes are rolling back! Next his head will start to spin.

          • Captain Howdy

            “Tommy, do you like movies about…gladiators?”

            • Sherbet

              Oh, gosh, I just burst out laughing! O Captain, my Captain.

  • HeatherGraceful

    I’m glad Jessica isn’t sick. Actually, that news suggests that their reason for leaving the Sea Org was volitional rather than being forced to do so for medical reasons. Good for them. I hope that, eventually, they’ll transition to being free and trying to help out people they’ve harmed and people who need help to escape or recover from the church. But we shouldn’t be surprised if it takes them a few years to get there.

  • Watergate

    Tony, doxing much? I’m a fan of you and your blog. But not of this column. It seems petty.

    • Sherbet

      How is it petty to report on one of the few public faces of cos and his wife, who “handled” one half of a very famous Hollywood marriage, when the two of them leave the SO and move far away from the mother church HQ?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Also, Crimes and Human Rights Abuses are Not petty. In fact, it’s part of the reason for the Snark Attack and Steam boiling off the clamshell here today. Scientologists get by with it, get to just walk away, because of the religious cloaking and the Billions that have been extorted, coerced from the sheeple.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Lol, could Tommy Davis be Downy Donor in real life?

        • Captain Howdy

          They get to walk away from it because some people apparently feel that even though they committed morally reprehensible and most likely criminal deeds as well, their right to privacy supersedes those “minor issues”. Fecking too much, eh?

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            too much, yes. I was dumbstruck when I learned that these Fishing expeditions for former members, especially sea org, weren’t just because Miscavige thought we were gullible once to hand money/life over, we were easy marks to be recycled. He’s been firing off these campaigns going back about 8 or 10 years ago, and repeating every 2 or 3 years. Now, duh, we know why.

            The other reason was all about Statutes of Limitation. So when Tommy was on his harrowing missions to reel execs back in, that was the reason. Same goes for public too, as they all seem to buy into not going to the authorities for Anything. Scientology legal and Miscavige knows to keep an eye out, but knows it will take several years before shedding that all important concept. It’s almost like that thing called obstruction of justice, allegedly.

    • Captain Howdy

      ….

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I bet Tony is just beside himself with worry about this column being called petty….

        Or maybe not…

      • Minion Gayle

        I haven’t seen that in ages. I can remember when my sister and I thought it was the funniest thing in the world to draw that on everything.

      • Watergate

        No problemo, Captain Howdy. Reasonable people can agree to disagree. :) Like your Killjoy graffiti. I just thought that today’s post smelled like “fair game.” No need for “the good guys” to act like that, eh?

    • George Layton

      Part of a line from a Shawn Phillips song, “Motes of Dust”, comes to mind; “…and more’s the same to stand by while it’s happening.”

    • Truthiwant

      Apart from the good piece of news that Jessica Feshbach is well, which in itself is something far from petty and I am sure almost everybody would agree that we didn’t like the idea that she was apparently ill, it is quite interesting to know what the ex-official spokesperson of Scientology is doing now and the daughter of the richest family in Scientology, the Feshbach family, is doing now.

      Maybe you will have to wait till tomorrow to see if COB, David Miscavige, has escaped to The South Pole!

      • FistOfXenu

        I’d like to see DM “escape” to South Park.

  • BosonStark

    Out of all Scientologists worldwide, how many knew Tommy Davis was their spokescreature?

    And associated with that, it seems Karin Pouw will NEVER make a public appearance, and since Tom Cruise really isn’t going to say anything much about Scientology anymore, don’t clams find that a bit odd, assuming they were aware that Tommy Davis made appearances in the first place?

  • SFFrog

    I think it would be fun to work with Tommy Davis. Whenever he was late for a meeting you could shout, “You were not there at the beginning of the meeting!”. That would never get tired.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      I abhor using “LOL” but this one deserves it!

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Damn it!
    I found a house I want to buy from Jessica’s firm!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Does it have underground dungeon tunnels, running pole circles, and most important, Coffee Island, and Margarita Tiki Bar? Can I decorate? Hubby can run sound.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Oh hell yah!!!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Does it have a Pub in one of the mansion wings? If so, maybe John Sweeney would be interested in renting it out. Lulzy comments in this article about Cardiff Library flipping on his book tour talk.

          “(To be honest, I would have much rather give my talk – which does not,
          of course, represent the views of my employer, the BBC – in a pub.
          Libraries have books and books are good. Pubs have beer and beer is
          better.)”

          http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/john-sweeney-cardiff-councils-decision-4304985

          Holy Cats….Maybe the Southern Bunker SP Society should book him! (in cooler Florida months, of course)

          • BuryTheNuts2

            This sounds like a stellar idea to me!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I’d hire a proper English bartender to pull from the Keg, I mean, pub.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Yeah, …and “he” has to be able to layer a black and tan correctly.

            • stateofcircle

              I can do that and even make a shamrock on a properly poured Guinness pint, so I guess you have no choice but to hire me!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              You are also hired.
              Plus you will keep us from having too many taco parties!

            • stateofcircle

              Unfortunately, my love for tacos is in fact strong, and I make some mean salsas and guacamole… On the plus side, I can make it (relatively) healthy, so we won’t have to worry about getting too-much-taco ass :)

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Oh, well….you get one of the big bedrooms for that!!!

            • Minion Gayle

              What color scheme would you like?

            • Captain Howdy

              You’re worth your weight in Leprechaun gold.

            • Truthiwant

              Can I do that? I’m not a bartender but I am English and I’ve certainly been on the receiving end of many pints of real ale over the decades!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              You are qualified.
              Hired.

            • Truthiwant

              What’s the beer like round where you live? In England we have the best beer in the world. It is luke warm, slightly flat and tastes bitter!
              Unfortunately I don’t live in England any more but a pint of Courage Best Bitter would be a treat just now!
              I’ll make my self content with a bottle of vino rosso Italiano.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Florida has “meh” microbrews. Not sure about the Northeast.
              But the Pacific Northwest has some great breweries.
              My favorite:

              http://www.visitmendocino.com/business/north-coast-brewing-company

              I agree England and Belgium got the beer thing happening!
              I even managed to slog through a few warm pints when I was there.

            • Truthiwant

              You don’t “slog through a few warm pints” in England! You say to the publican “same again, please” and you sip your six or seven pints tastefully while trying to play darts or bar billiards.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Well, obviously now we know that Sweeney will have to bring his own beer, and a few extra pints.

            • aquaclara

              Interesting tidbit. Kelly McGillis, TC’s co-star in Top Gun, has a microbrew in Key West…if you happen to be there, and well, need a drink. They are nice and will give free tours if you ask.
              http://www.kellyskeywest.com/

            • Captain Howdy

              Harpoon is good.

            • coonellie

              Hey, wait a minute! I started pulling pints at 14 (there was no age requirement in Éire).
              I want in…you could use two behind the bar, right?
              (and I also learned to make Margaritas on the rocks, no salt, plus dirty Vodka martinis…I’m handy around the house ;).

            • BuryTheNuts2

              We are going to need a lot more than two or even four behind the bar at this house!
              Plus dirty Martinis? You are in!

            • FistOfXenu

              So you know the right way to serve Guinness? If they don’t hire you I will. :)

            • coonellie

              Just tell me where and I’m happy to oblige! I’ll have to bring along Mr. C and Baby, but they don’t eat much ;).

              (Yes, I learned how to pull Guinness, although Harp was more popular, go figure!).

            • FistOfXenu

              I spent 3 weeks in Dublin once and must’ve swallowed my weight in the black stuff. When I got back stateside I discovered I didn’t like American beers much any more. Still don’t after 30 yrs.

            • Truthiwant

              With a good pint of Guinness, the white head should remain until the end.

            • coonellie

              I know what you mean. I spent my formative (drinking) years of my life in Éire and England. After moving to the States I discovered that it wasn’t worth drinking the sorry excuse they call beer/ale anymore. When I go back and visit, the first thing I do is find a local IPA, a packed table and a fag…oh, I can almost taste it now!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              There are some great IPA’s here. Gotta know where to look.

            • coonellie

              In the import section of the Brit store?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              LOL….well yeah, that too!

            • ze moo

              The microbrews that are everywhere are the equal of any Irish or Brit or even German beer. I like Dixie blackend voodoo. Its a beer and a great marinade….

            • aquaclara

              And a great marinade… Love this.
              And it sounds almost true.

            • FistOfXenu

              And once you’ve had boiler makers with Guinness these American beers are just too lame to use.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Hired. Would need catered pub fare appetizers, anyone? Also car valet for parking if I can talk someone into using their nearby lots. Let’s see, oh, videographer to video of course. Hey, it would sure be fun to Skype it.

              Travel coordinator to help those attending to book flights and hotels. Lots of beachfront motels, reasonable, to share, close by.

    • Captain Howdy

      Pics?

      • BuryTheNuts2
        • dbloch7986

          Good lord. Three million, is that it? Let me pull out my wallet….

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Well I said “I want to buy”.
            My house is 1300 square feet….So not bloody likely.
            But if a girl can dream…that looks like a nice one.

            • dbloch7986

              It does look like a nice house. I love the courtyard in the middle. If a guy could dream he would want the same. I have also considered buying one of the decommissioned nuclear missile silos that the government put up for 1mil. Would love to have an impenetrable fortress under my house.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Son, you have spent too much time in the tunnels!!!!

              You need windows and sunlight!

              Missile silos are very dark!

            • dbloch7986

              That is true. I spent much time in the tunnels, and the shredder box, and the basement, and cleaning bathrooms.

              But, the idea is that you build a house on top of the silo with a basement entrance!

              http://static.move.com/blogs/2011/11/1128missile13.jpg

            • Sherbet

              That picture gives me claustrophobia, just looking at it.

            • dbloch7986

              Well you only have to use the silo in the event of the end of the world. Which is extremely unlikely. Most likely I would use it to host giant parties that are so awesome they register on nearby seismic sensors.

            • Sherbet

              Nah, I’ll be one of those people on the porch, watching for Xenu fly-bys and volcano eruptions. You kids have a good time at your party, ‘k?

            • dbloch7986

              Every time someone predicts the end of times, I will have an “End of the World Party” in my silo. I love irony, and that would be the greatest level of irony that I could potentially reach in my life.

            • Sherbet

              You’ve got a twisted sense of humor, and I mean that in a GOOD way!

            • dbloch7986

              I have a very dry sense of humor that centers around irony and sarcasm. Most of the time people have a difficult time determining if I am joking or being truthful. I frequently insert ridiculous examples into casual conversation/debate about important issues to show the futility of the argument. I also tend to exaggerate the gravity of a situation in order to illustrate the low priority of it.

              It takes a while to get used to my sense of humor, but surprisingly many people here have.

              Often the situations that I find funniest are the ones at which I don’t laugh.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              You sound kinda like Bob!

            • dbloch7986

              I dunno. I think Bob is multiple people posting on a sock account trying to justify the actions of each other.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Well if that is the case…I am a much better troll than he/they are.

              Look what I managed to do with Real Estate today!

            • Captain Howdy

              Thanks for taking the fall.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              It was my turn. You are up next.

            • Sherbet

              I get the same type of blank stares where people try to figure out if I’m kidding. Note to the world: I’m almost always trying to get a laugh, even a sardonic one.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Wait one moment, young man. How many parties is that? You have far too many moms here waiting for a diploma. heh

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Sounds like he is already in college!

            • dbloch7986

              I am going to college so I can afford the silo! Don’t worry everything is happening in the right order. :)

            • Captain Howdy

              I think I was looking at that same image a few months ago when i went off on one of my Walking Dead/The Road fantasy searches for the best survival shelter. It’s a guy thing.

            • Sherbet

              Ah. That explains it.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Apparently curtains are a girl thing????

            • dbloch7986

              Oh shit, I apologize in advance if this is going too far (especially to Tony, if you need to delete this I understand): But umm… beef curtains are definitely a guy thing.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              HAHAHAHA!

              Going too far here?
              Only a few have tried and managed to pull that off!

            • Sherbet

              In a glass house, they’re a no-peeking thing.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Phillip Johnson would roll over in his grave!

            • Sherbet

              And if he weren’t already dead, seeing lots of curtains would kill him.

            • dbloch7986

              Definitely a guy thing.

            • tetloj

              one always needs to consider the zombbie apocolypse escape plan

            • Captain Howdy

              Especially if you’re Brad Pitt and your bigger summer zombie blockbuster you produced and star in is predicted to be the biggest bomb since Ishtar ..or After Earth.

            • tetloj

              Hmmm – another cautionary tale about vanity projects. I was interested in the film but zombies running just wigs me out…against the natural order doncha know…

            • Captain Howdy

              It looks awful. I’ll be reading the novel, which is suppose to be great, soon as i get it from my friend. Fast zombies suck, unless they’re rage virus “zombies” and you don’t need a head shot. They’re not fast in the book.

            • Captain Howdy

              William Burroughs lived in a missile silo for awhile. I would love a silo.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Yes, of course you would,…. You are weird Captain!
              I love you….but you are just weird!

            • Captain Howdy

              sittin’ in my scilo.
              gettin’ ballistically high-o
              not worrying bout five-o

            • RMycroft
            • Captain Howdy

              Nyet! If I could live anywhere it would be the Ossuary at Sedlec.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGbLDrwo4Mk

            • Couch_Incident

              Captain, given you macabre hobbies, I assume you’re familiar with Our Lady of the Conception of the Capuchins Ossuary in Rome? A nice visit when you’re near the US Embassy. The sign at the entrance ominously reads, “As you are, we once were. As we are, you shall be one day”

            • Minion Gayle

              These days I’m really starting to miss my 1200 sf house. Those extra 1400 sf brought too many people with them.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I like my little house. I travel all the time and I despise cleaning!

            • Minion Gayle

              The whimpering sound you hear is me remembering that I now have 3 toilets to clean. *sigh* Why can’t boys aim?

            • Sherbet

              It’s got to be bigger than St. Hill.

        • Minion Gayle

          Think we could go Dutch?

          • BuryTheNuts2

            We need to find a few more roomates…like about 48 more???

            • stateofcircle

              I’m in! I’ll be the house chef!

            • Minion Gayle

              I won’t have to do the cooking? You’re in, baby!

            • Sherbet

              I’ll make curtains. LOTS of curtains.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Curtain tech to keep the squirrel busters from looking in?

            • Minion Gayle

              As long as I get my own room, I’m willing to let them pitch tents on the lawn.

        • Captain Howdy

          People who live in glass houses end up dead on the six o’clock news. Plus it’s way too modern for my tastes. If I had the money I wouldn’t even look at a house that was less than a 100 years old. I want ghosts.

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/castle-for-sale-amsterdam-new-york_n_2908802.html

        • stillgrace

          They had me at “butler’s pantry”!

  • Jgg2012

    I’m wondering if Thomas / Jessica aren’t indies now. They moved to Texas (Marty’s new home state, where David Miscavige has no contacts, where Debbie Cooke also fled to initially); they are no longer active, but say they are still scilons; they have jobs now working mostly with wogs; as Anne Archer’s son, it’s hard for TD to criticize the church, but, at the same time, he may have gotten tired of lying for Davey.

    • Spackle Motion

      Not likely that they are Indies unless they are auditing each other, which is a possibility. If they even picked up the phone and spoke to Marty or another bitter defrocked apostate they would receive a Squirrel Busters visit or suffer from some other form of harassment.

      • Couch_Incident

        If they are auditing each other, imagine the opportunities they have to spice things up in the bedroom when doing cosplay of different body thetans every night! Marie Antoinette & Louis XVI on Wednesday, Samson & Delilah on Thursday, etc.!

  • TonyOrtega

    New story with an update on the Laura DeCrescenzo forced-abortion lawsuit coming to the blog in a few minutes.

  • stateofcircle

    Thanks, Bunkerites. I got absolutely nothing done today because of you!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      We aim to please…

      :)

    • Sherbet

      Same here! The boss is traveling, and I swear to God, I did one small project and have been noodling around here the rest of the day. I feel SO GUILTY. (It’s not stopping me, though.)

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Lol, My boss called me earlier and asked if I still worked here…I said barely…
        His answer: Me too.

        Me=the bunker
        He=anything golf related

        • Sherbet

          Is he hiring?

          • BuryTheNuts2

            LOL, he prefers firing. It is like a sport to him.

            He just likes me because I will fight with him and everyone else is terrified of him.
            (For some reason this amuses him….so I try to keep him happy)

        • aquaclara

          I up arrowed your comment, loving it. Disqus went down, not up. So we have an unbelievable first – it is showing a negative number in the up arrow column!!
          Maybe this -2 will revert magically back to what should be a positive 3.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    It is ironic that Thomas Davis crossed over to the side of Global Capitalism HQ.

    When we in RTC first saw signs of capitalist disaffection in Tommy we should have just shipped him off to John P. and been done with it.

    One thing is certain: The new Church of Scientology spokesman Ken Delusion will never fail us.

    Delusion has always been good for the Church.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Five stars for that one!

    • BW

      We in Global Capitalism HQ wish to point out that there is no such thing as “capitalist disaffection.” When you are an actual capitalist, there is very little to be disaffected with. Sure, we feel economic pressure from time to time, such as when bonuses come in a little below expectations and we have to postpone purchasing a new yacht that’s 20 feet longer than the one we bought last year. When you are merely employed by a capitalist enterprise, there is disaffection at the struggle to get by, but we classify this as “capitalist envy” rather than “capitalist disaffection.”

      We ask you in RTC to avoid confusing these terms in the future. We are asking gently at this point, since we understand that your $50 per week salaries may elicit in you a particularly severe form of “capitalist envy.” We are also sympathetic to the fact that the only yacht most of you in RTC will ever see is the wrinkled, aging rust bucket known as the FleeWinds, which is approximately the size of one of our managing general partners’ boats, though he doesn’t have to share his with anyone and you guys have to make do with four-in-a-room berthing and meals involving microwaved fish sticks and chocolate pudding straight from the can.

    • Big Wheel

      .

    • John P.

      We in Global Capitalism HQ wish to point out that there is no such thing as “capitalist disaffection.” When you are an actual capitalist, there is very little to be disaffected with. Sure, we feel economic pressure from time to time, such as when bonuses come in a little below expectations and we have to postpone purchasing a new yacht that’s 20 feet longer than the one we bought last year. This is a minor obstacle, hardly some sort of malaise that deserves its own name. When you are merely employed by a capitalist enterprise, there is disaffection at the struggle to get by, but we classify this as “capitalist envy” rather than “capitalist disaffection.”

      We ask you in RTC to avoid confusing these terms in the future. We are asking gently at this point, since we understand that your $50 per week salaries may elicit in you a particularly severe form of “capitalist envy.” We are also sympathetic to the fact that the only yacht most of you in RTC will ever see is the wrinkled, aging rust bucket known as the FleeWinds, which is approximately the size of one of our managing general partners’ boats, though he doesn’t have to share his with anyone and you guys have to make do with four-in-a-room berthing and meals involving microwaved fish sticks and chocolate pudding straight from the can.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        correct except the food…local ports, fresh and wholesome. Well, except for staff/slaves of course.

    • tetloj

      Ken Delusion needs his own twitter account

    • Garry Scarff

      I’m sure Tommy’s millions as a wealthy trust fund kid had nothing to do with his being hired by billionaire Tom Barrack. I wonder how long it will take for Tommy to be delared SP because he failed to persuade his bosses to make sizable donations to his beloved cult?

      • Tory Christman

        I’m happy they’re both doing well…this is *great* news, considering all the rumors of she being ill. (To Matt, who mentioned on my YT site that he’d heard she was fine, thank you! I apologize for not getting it). Interesting that they both went into real estate…considering now the Cult is, too. Could there be any back line purchases involved? I hope not! I love being wrong, in areas like this. And IF Ann Archer happens to be lurking::: PLEASE call your Son!! Love to all, and thanks, Tony O :) Great news!!

    • Jgg2012

      I think John P is infiltrating the Church.

  • media_lush

    do you think she’s blown? …. I mean, budget airlines in Europe and looking extremely happy….while her brother borrows Dad’s jet for his “DJ” gigs…. incidentally it looks like little Connor is turning into a chubster

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2339973/Tom-Cruises-daughter-Bella-flies-budget-airline-Ryanair–sister-Suri-travels-class.html

    • Minion Gayle

      That would be awesome. What would be more awesome is if she picked up a phone and CALLED HER MOTHER.

    • Garry Scarff

      She hasn’t blown.. it looks like Tom sent her to the UK to keep her away from Eddie Frencher. If she had blown, daddy Tom would disconnect from her. Despite her flying on a budget airline to Italy, she’s still enjoying life in luxury. Bella deleted her Instagram account at this article was published, but her brother’s is still up. http://ink361.com/app/#!/users/8386733/photos

      • media_lush

        Would you care to elaborate as saying “Tom sent her to the UK to keep her away from Eddie Frencher” seems to need it.

      • stateofcircle

        I don’t think he would disconnect from his daughter. I know he’s crazy and all that Sciloon jazz, but he’s still the VIP-iest of the VIPs.

      • TM McKeny

        He hasn’t disconnected from Suri.

  • Ivan Mapother

    Jessica’s realty firm has some real nice properties but I didn’t see exactly what I was looking for. I wonder if she could find me a small double-wide with lots of security, a private setting in an out-of-the-way place. If anyone else is interested in property like that, her e-mail address is available at Wilson Goldrick Realtors.

  • J.W.

    Considering they’re still Scientologists, I really doubt they’re going to “drop you a line”

  • Bella Legosi

    I had a feeling they are just staying low. It would be wonderful if they would talk. Ever since I came across that atricle from the Austin Observer or Journal (I would link with 100% certainty but am on my phone) Thomas and Jessica were just lying low and that she wasnt ill, i think that would have been mentioned but it wasnt. When I think about it I am 50/50 on believeing if he actually blew.

    Keep your eyes open ESMB! Anything is possible!

  • sheepleroom

    If you check his LinkedIn now, it says that he’s Special Assistant to the Chairman.. far cry from Managing Director.. lol.. basically, he’s a secretary, not a director. Tsk tsk.. if Scientology has taught him anything it’s that you can fake it till you make it ;) … Or until someone publicizes your fib..

  • Rex Crayola

    I’m a Texan and love it here, but it’s not surprising that they would be in Austin – freak town.

  • Max

    It’s sad and it is criminal. As the devil
    is always in the details, the problem is that no one is
    paying attention to the details. Since Scientology obtained
    tax-exempt status with the IRS (due to the influence of
    Elliott Abelson), the membership numbers are going down and
    the power and cash flow are going up. Additionally, the
    most Christian country on Earth (the land of the Vatican –
    Italy), all of a sudden welcomed Scientology into the
    country and as a recognized religion. Hmmm…

    During my struggles with them, none of my numerous friends
    in law enforcement could touch the case. The best they were
    able to do was to inform me that within the law enforcement
    community, Scientology had been upgraded from Cult to
    Organized Crime.

    Interesting, isn’t it?

    • DeElizabethan

      Interesting yes, and hope that’s solid.

    • DeElizabethan

      Interesting yes, and hope that’s solid.

  • maranathasoon

    Tommy Davis needs to apologize for the lies that he told about LRH’s war record. Until he does, and truly seems repentant, he should be regarded with suspicion.

    This isn’t a church, because no-one in it is seeking God. They’re seeking fame, power, control, anything but God.

    Dave

  • Rebecca Howell

    Tommy Davis seems to be a closeted homosexual. I suspect that he will do whatever it takes to keep that quiet- including getting married twice. What’s more- he was raised in the church and wants to be able to maintain good standing in the church. Whatever happened to them, I doubt Tommy will come clean about anything. If he has lied his whole life about his sexuality- I am sure he will lie about Scientology. He doesn’t appear to be a nice person in general.

    • Adanvdo Ditlihi

      I think many of the top men of Scientology are closet gays. I mean, look at any of their pictures. Cruise Gay! Travolta Gay! Miscavige Gay! C’mon, who do they think they’re kidding???

  • Exile DSob

    Just watched the BBC Panorama Documentary with Tommy. That guy has serious issues. I have to say I was majorly upset Anne Archer is part of that whole crazy crew. I really liked her as an actress, but now I know she is not only a Scientologist, but the mother of that whack job, not so much anymore.

  • El Diablo Matamoros

    I have never been a Scientologist but was fascinated and entertained by Tommy’s performance on that BBC episode. Having recently read that he left and is lying low as a Bank manager in Texas, here are my two cents:

    It sounds like he is still reeling from the experience and trying to put it all together. When you are completely invested in something, body, mind and soul only to find yourself the willing instrument of despotic control and manipulation within system which crushes the most delicate and innocent parts of the human being, that is to say their faith given willingly and with the highest aspirations, it can take some time to pick up the peaces.

    It seems the two are stumbling through limbo trying to understand what happened to them and unsure if they wish to maintain their faith, albeit living on a compromised yet quietly submissive platform, or to become the whistle blowers this thread hopes for.

    It seems to me a man like Tommy would have a hard time throwing away 24 years of his life and accepting that he was simply made into a fool. He must be trying to salvage something from his experience and is unwilling to part totally with his old life.

    He probably wants nothing to do with both the Scientologists or their dissenters, being disgusted with both sides of the coin. The ugliness he has seen is enough to last a lifetime and he probably just wants to move on.

    As far as punishment, yes he was a A-hole to a lot of people, but I imagine the experience he is going through now is sufficient punishment. The confusion and loss he must feel is the same as many who leave Scientology but perhaps even more profound. The bigger you are the harder you fall.

    I am sure he believed every word of the twisted philosophy he preached, otherwise it would have no effect.

    If you would meet him outside of Scientology, you might even find him to be a nice guy. The problem is he has been a Scientologist since he was 17 years old. How much of his personality is his, and how much of it is Scientologies. These are the questions I am sure he is trying to answer himself.

  • Joshua

    There is no justice in this world.