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Will Shelly Miscavige Be Trotted Out at the Celebrity Centre Gala As a PR Stunt?

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[Previously unpublished photo of Shelly Miscavige circa 1990 courtesy of Claudio and Renata Lugli]

Our celebrity sources in the Church of Scientology tell us that church leader David Miscavige is planning a bold stunt later this month at the 44th annual Celebrity Centre gala in Hollywood, California.

On July 8 we revealed that Leah Remini was breaking away from Scientology in part because she dared to ask, persistently, about the disappearance of Miscavige’s wife, Shelly, who hasn’t been seen by the general membership of the church in six years. Since then, the mainstream media has given momentum to a question that has been asked for years in Internet forums: “Where’s Shelly?”

As we reported earlier, we believe that in late 2005 or early 2006, Shelly Miscavige, following a row with her husband, was moved to a small, secret compound in the mountains above Los Angeles where only about 12 to 15 other Scientologists work in seclusion. And except for being allowed to go to the funeral of her father in the summer of 2007, Shelly has been at that compound ever since. But now, we hear, with so much press about her disappearance, she’s going to be trotted out for cameras with the church’s other celebrities.

Usually held in the third week of August each year, the gala takes place at the Hollywood Celebrity Centre — a former hotel built in 1927 in the style of a French chateau on Franklin Avenue that the church has owned since 1973 — for a gala that in recent years has attracted the usual suspects, including John Travolta, Kelly Preston, Nancy Cartwright, and Kirstie Alley.

The annual event usually garners little media attention. But this year may be different. Will press get access to Shelly if she shows up? Will other celebrities get the chance to talk to her? For some answers, we talked to someone who used to make those kinds of plans when he was the second-highest official in the church, Marty Rathbun.

“Shelly will drill for two weeks on the no-answer answer until she has it down cold,” Rathbun tells us. “She’ll be sitting at Miscavige’s table, and she’ll have Lou (Miscavige’s personal “communicator” Laurisse ‘Lou’ Stuckenbrock) and someone else flanking her to keep people away.”

Rathbun agrees that if Miscavige has his wife attend the gala, her first church event in more than seven years, it will be so tightly orchestrated, even the other celebrities will have little opportunity to ask Shelly a question of any importance.

“It will be a controlled environment, and there won’t be any Leah Reminis there with the balls to ask her questions,” he says.

And Rathbun says it won’t be the first time a Scientology figure who had been made an “unperson” by Miscavige was trotted out under public pressure.

Twice, in 2011 and 2012, Rathbun says, Miscavige pulled Heber Jentzsch out of “The Hole” to make appearances to tamp down criticism. “He did it when we started a ‘Free Heber’ campaign at my blog after Karen de la Carriere made noise about Heber being in the Hole, and then they did it again a year later when Karen put on a full court press after her son Alexander died.”

Karen was formerly married to Heber, who remains, nominally, the president of the Church of Scientology International, a post he’s held since 1982. But in 2004, Rathbun and former church spokesman Mike Rinder witnessed that Jentzsch was one of the top executives imprisoned in The Hole, where it’s believed that he has remained to this day, except for several brief appearances for the sake of public relations. Only when pressure was applied from the outside did Jentzsch get rolled out to be seen by other church members and then went right back to the base near Hemet.

Rathbun says that kind of pressure is now being applied to Miscavige to produce his wife.

“The significance of the whole thing is that Leah Remini impinged,” Rathbun says, using a Scientology word for having significant impact. “We’ve been calling them out on this for six years now, but only now is Miscavige going to give proof of life. It’s a testament to how much attention Leah got for this.”

It’s a sign, he says, that someone has put pressure on Miscavige, someone he can’t ignore.

“Usually he bunkers down. But he can’t bunker down for this. Which means he’s hearing it from someone of high enough importance and he realized he had to do something,” Rathbun says. “Someone like a Kirstie Alley or a Bodhi Elfman got to Miscavige and was complaining, and Miscavige realized if he didn’t do something he could have another Leah problem on his lines.”

Alley? Elfman? We asked why Miscavige would be affected by actors rather than, say, advice from top church attorneys.

“He doesn’t care what the attorneys say. What Miscavige values is celebrity.”

If Shelly is at the gala later this month, could there be a risk to the church that she’d use the opportunity to break away?

“If Shelly wanted to get away, it would have happened years ago,” Rathbun says. “Over six years, there are definitely opportunities. and this is not one of them.”

Rathbun explains that Shelly has been spending the last six years working, and may be convinced that she’s advancing L. Ron Hubbard’s interests. As we reported earlier, we believe she’s been working and living at the Church of Spiritual Technology headquarters, a small compound in the mountains above Los Angeles where work is done to archive L. Ron Hubbard’s writings so they can be placed in underground vaults to preserve them in the case of a nuclear holocaust. But we have also been told that in recent years she’s been working on “comps” — new materials for the launch of “Golden Age of Technology II,” a recent push by her husband, David Miscavige.

The CST headquarters is a lush mountain property cut off from the outside world, and those we’ve talked to who worked there say it is idyllic.

“It’s a cush job. She’s happy as a clam up there and probably has been for years,” Rathbun says. It’s the nature of the job — and her dedication to L. Ron Hubbard — that probably keeps her from trying to escape.

“If the job was polishing DM’s hubcaps, she would have blown a long time ago,” Rathbun says.

As the gala nears, we hope to have more details about it. Tipsters, please send us anything you happen to find out about it!

 
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Karen de la Carriere on Good Morning America!

Yesterday, a crew from ABC was out to film Karen de la Carriere for a segment this morning on Good Morning America. Let us know if you catch it!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on August 5, 2013 at 07:00

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  • Observer

    “He doesn’t care what the attorneys say. What Miscavige values is celebrity.”

    And there you have it, Scientologists: the length, breadth and depth of your “ecclesiastical” leader’s spiritual concern.

    • FLUNK_101

      It used to mean something to be ecclesiastical.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Awww.
        You betcha.
        He rocked!

        • monkeyknickers

          Have you read the Lazlo Toth letters? I found a book a couple years ago and it made me laugh out loud.

      • Mixomoxim

        Is that Tommy Davis?

      • joan nieman

        lol! Good one!

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      I hope Miscavige continues to listen to celebrities for advice. This course of action has worked wonders in pushing Scientology to the brink of disaster.

    • BuiltForComfortNotSpeed

      This was a very young man short on education and experience, long on ambition, who allowed himself to be pulled into the narcissistic snake pit known as Hollywood. He became so bedazzled by the stars, he couldn’t see how he lost himself — yet, all the while he was thinking that _he_ was seducing _them_.

      When he finally realizes he sold his soul for empty promises surrounded by glitter, his world will come crashing down with no one to care enough about him to soften the fall. I feel sorry for him, but we all have lessons to learn.

      • music8r

        I agree except for “sold his soul.” He ain’t got one!

        • BuiltForComfortNotSpeed

          He started this life with a soul, just as we all did. Of course it’s gone — he sold it. He could earn it back, but that would take some serious inner work and realizing that if he wants someone to blame, then he better look in the mirror.

          Being derogatory toward him may make _us_ feel better, but it does absolutely nothing to heal this horrendous situation. It is actually counter-productive.

          Like all bullies, inside there is a scared little kid acting out the abuse he probably received. He needs to grow up and take responsibility for himself and his destructiveness. As long as he feels attacked, he will not let his defenses down long enough to do this.

          Associating with celebrities makes him feel special. But he’s not; he’s an under-educated knuckle-dragger. Unfortunately, these barbarians are a dime-a-dozen. Deep inside, he probably realizes this. He’s trapped, so he traps others.

    • Cat Daddy

      Let’s up de shoops !!!! make him Famous as a dwarf humping a pig

  • FLUNK_101

    Impingement!

  • Vistaril

    Breaking News . . . David Miscavige is to launch a PR op designed to present a kinder, caring, more fun COB than the dour wretch portrayed in the enturbulated wog press. An Anon spy who infiltrated the dress rehearsal for the 44th Celebrity Centre Gala event managed to capture a shot of David Miscavige in the outfit he will be wearing as part of the celebrations . . .

    • Phil McKraken

      Something’s not quite right with that photo… I can’t put my finger on it… that’s it! Too tall! Other than that, makes sense.

      • shasha40

        It’s the heels , they’re 5 inches higher than his usual ones ! bol

        • Mark

          If you don’t click ‘see more’, then he’s standing on an orange box, like he does for most official photos.

      • GlibWog

        NO, NO … it’s his Package. It’s been shooped to make it appear he has one!

        • Mark

          NO NO NO… a zucchini wrapped in foil!

          • GlibWog

            hahaha He just gives me the Creeps..ugh, ugh..

      • sugarplumfairy

        The 8 inch heels create the illusion of height..

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      This picture is very disturbing even without Miscavige’s head superimposed on the body.

    • tetloj

      he wishes he could look this fabulous.

    • Jon Hendry

      Slim Goodthetan?

  • Andrew Robertson

    “She’s happy as a clam up there and probably has been for years,” Rathbun says.

    It’s nice that Marty has a sense of humour now! I doubt he would have spoken like that in past times.

    Andrew

    • Watergate

      I doubt you would have spoken like that in past times either.

    • sugarplumfairy

      just being away from a personality that stresses and terrorizes you would be enough to make you happy.. At least initially.. But every time she’s unhappy, all she need do is remember her life with dm..

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Believe it when I see it, but I hope Shelly’s family are there with TV camera crews and attorneys waiting for her entrance. Yeah, happy as a clam. Of course she is.

    • Marti

      A clamor in the press for a Shelly interview is needed.

    • villagedianne

      Does Shelley have family outside of the cult? Or are most of them scientologists?

  • Espiando

    You know what? I don’t think he’ll do it. There are certain lines that the micromegalomaniac won’t cross, and I think this is one of them. Every single clam will know that he’d be bringing out Shelly under pressure and against his will. If he can be pressured on this issue, what else can he be pressured about? It would ruin Command Intention, and that’s not something he can afford right now with GAT II: Electric Boogaloo in full swing and Stupid Power “to open before IAS”.

    He believes he can “handle” every single flap that comes along (despite evidence over the past five years or so that he can’t), and I’m certain he believes that this will quiet down, that Leah Remini will fade into the background as he keeps popping up at every weekly graduation at Flag to announce something “new and exciting”, and that GAT II: Electric Boogaloo will cement his status as Hubbard’s True Successor.

    Here’s one thing, Davey: everyone knows St. Peter was the first Pope. Who was the second pope? It’s not a name that trips off of everyone’s tongue. Well, I just happen to know it was St. Linus. When you say the name “Linus” to people these days, what do they think of? A socially-inept pre-teen who carries around a security blanket. What’s your security blanket, Chuckles The Silly Piggy?

    • Eivol Ekdal

      I think He will do it because he is stupid and prone to knee-jerk responses to problems He is so powerful he believes that he can pull off the act.

      • BosonStark

        If David Miscavige wants to be known, he wants to be known as Keeper of the Source and not for disappearing his wife or beating his underlings, so I think it is possible he will produce her, if she’s in good enough condition to produce. (He can’t un-beat his underlings.)

        • Espiando

          Bo, you’re forgetting one factor: this guy is stubborn, driven, and has a one-track mind (even if the track is twisted as a rollercoaster). Would someone who wasn’t this stubborn have stuck with GAT I for sixteen years despite every piece of evidence showing that it wasn’t working, and that it was costing their {church} a serious number of adherents? Ditto the Idle Morgues. Ditto the Stupid Power Crypt. I think he’s made up his mind that Shelly is an impediment to him (and justified it by blaming GAT I on her work), and she’s never going to be seen again.

          There’s also the fact that she almost certainly knows where (metaphorically speaking) the bodies are buried, and he can’t risk her opening her mouth…

          • joan nieman

            It appears that DM is edging toward sociolpathic personalitiy. There seems to be an escalation pending..sort of “the straw that broke the camel’s back”.

            • ThetaBara

              “Edging toward?”

          • music8r

            BAH! Evidence is Counter-Intention!

        • GlibWog

          To bad he’s known for being a Fuckin Asshole

      • music8r

        And, alas, the faithful Kool-Aid drinkers will applaud and have another sip of mojo….

    • May_West

      All the big goings on with gag2 and soopah powah give Davey the perfect chance to display Shelly to thank her for all the hard work she’s done. This is his chance to save face with his plebs and act like it was all his own idea to show Shelly in public.

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      Just heard on CNN this morn. that Leah Remini is planning a book about her Co$ experiences, that should elevate the paranoia in RTC.

      • Espiando

        I think that their (meaning The Dark Lord Chuckles The Silly Piggy) thoughts on this would go as follows: We survived a Pulitzer-Prize-winning journalist doing a book about us. We can survive a C-list sitcom actress/bitter defrocked apostate doing the same. Hate to be that cynical, but cynicism is a must if you’re dealing with the mindset of these people.

        • stateofcircle

          I don’t disagree. I also think there is a chance the cherch will, be it through money or blackmail, try to put a stop to it, or it least the scilon parts.

        • Missionary Kid

          I hope that’s what he’s thinking. If it is, footbullets are sure to follow.
          If that’s true, he’s underestimating the drip, drip, drip of the erosion of, first, the public perception of Co$, so that decades ago, it was looked at as odd, to the perception now that it is flat out slimy.

          The other aspect of this is that people aren’t walking in the door. His whole focus is on keeping people in, and with the constant regging for more money, people are dropping out. The people who are not open members are probably hearing all of the ridicule from the people around them. That must not be good for morale, even though they probably walk around with their figurative fingers in their ears so they don’t hear entheta like that.

      • mirele

        I’ve been debating whether or not Leah Remini’s defection has caused more upset to DM than Katie Holmes. I think it has. For one thing, there’s nothing that DM can do to shut her up. She got her family out, there’s no impending legal action where he can interpose himself (i.e., a shut-up clause in a divorce settlement) and if he tried to sue her saying she’d violated confidentiality agreements, an even bigger shitstorm would land on his head. The second thing is that unlike Katie Holmes, whom we’ve never heard from, Remini is occasionally talking. And her family is talking. And this book will talk. She may be a C-list celebrity, but there’s hunger for information about Scientology (and celebrities!) out there and Remini is poised to at least give her view of it. So I personally think that Leah Remini is more of an ongoing problem for DM and one he cannot easily shut up without pulling out her PC folders, which would be a different kind of shitstorm.

        • CraftLass

          I don’t know, I think Remini is actually much more of a household name than almost any Sci-celeb or former Sci-celeb (with the obvious exceptions of TC and JT, who most people seem to have written off as deluded nutcases anyway). Heck, I’ve known who she is for years and I’ve never watched anything she’s done and I don’t generally follow actors. She’s even on my TV a whole lot despite the fact that I change the channel whenever King of Queens comes on (and, seriously, it’s on for at least 8 hours every day between various channels, at least in the NYC metro area). Sitcoms are huge business now, there is a reason major movie stars like Robin Williams are joining them. To top it off, she always comes off as such a nice, genuine person, which is terribly rare for an actress. She gives really good interviews, too, from what I’ve run across of her. She’s sympathetic on a whole different level. What Sci-celeb has any of that other than her? Toss in the fact that she grew up in the “church” and therefore has plenty to say and she could be the most damaging person to the whole organization if she chooses to be.

          Most importantly, she comes across a whole lot saner than the rest of the lot. Always has. Despite being in a “church” of publicly crazy people. I would never have guessed she was one of them if she hadn’t talked about it openly. She always comes off as more relatable and cool than the rest of them put together.

          I think she may actually be more popular than Katie Holmes. She certainly is more popular than Kirstie Alley or Jenna Elfman have been in recent years (especially with Elfman’s awful flop of a sitcom last season).

          What I would really love to see is for her to put out a book and get a new sitcom gig around the same time. It would be some powerful TNT, especially to the notion that $camatology helps an acting career. A girl can dream, right?

          • i-Betty

            I’m with you 100% on this.

          • ThetaBara

            Katie’s Great Escape did a lot to raise awareness about the cult’s abuses and laid a strong foundation for public interest in Leah’s story (as well as the recent books – Jenna and Wright.

            • CraftLass

              Oh, agreed. Heck, it’s why I’m here myself. Still, while she certainly got inducted straight to an inner inner circle right off thanks to TC, Remini spent most of her life in without it trashing her credibility as a person in general. Heck, that seems to be a special talent of its own… lol

              The real beauty here, of course, is that the dominoes have fallen in the way they have and Katie primed a whole lot of people for what Remini might come out with when she really opens her mouth herself. :-)

          • Rob Kline

            From your lips to Xenu’s ears!

      • FingersCrossed

        YAY!! Where do I pre-order?! :P

      • USA MRIID

        I will be buying that book. I normally don’t bother since damn near anything one would care to know about the Scientology crime syndicate and that insane conman is on the Intertubes, but she may have details that are otherwise lacking on the Intertubes.

        And I suppose I’ll have to buy Tony’s book, though I know I could expect some un-revealed specifics on things from his book.

      • Robert Eckert

        They appear to repeating the same erroneous rumor as all the other outlets.

      • ThetaBara

        Saw that rumored last week. What’s their source?

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Yeah, I do not believe it until Tony, or Rinder says so. I think CNN got hoodwinked into a spreading rumor. Although if true, I’m obviously happy.

    • sketto

      The one thing Dickhead Miscavige won’t be able to do, even if he tries to pull this dog and pony show off, is to remove the vacant, soul-dead stare that inevitably resides in everyone forced to go through this torturous public charade that everything is fine. It was there in Mike Rinder, and in Heber, and in dozens of others in all the videos we’ve seen of Scientologists trying to lie for their psychotic pope without breaking down themselves.

      We’ll see it. It’s in the eyes. People starving spiritually (and often physically when around Miscavige) cannot remove the pain from their eyes. We’ll see it.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        Right. She’d have to pass DM inspection on exactly those presentation image points. She had a very haggard look, in that one photo that preceded her disappearance, already. She was noticeably not looking like she enjoyed playing tag a long wife to DM’s hanging out with Tom Cruise and other celeb couples. My long feelings were during that period when Miscavige and her did tag along with Cruise in public, that’s something Miscavige himself felt uncomfortable about, him being such a nobody, but being an accessory to Cruise’s popularity ran against Miscavige’s idea of himself even.

        One other way I kind of rate current trends, is which celebs sit in the front rows of the events, and how many audience photo shots appear then in mags and church in house promo videos, that give those split second glimpses of the celebs at the big events.

        The last time Cruise was at a church big event, all that was shown was a photo that one had to use a magnifying glass to see the back of Tom’s and Katie’s heads, a couple years ago.

        Since then, I’ve scoured the crowd audience shots to see who of the celebs show up, and it’s way down across the boards.

        I do think DM and the celebs are impacted by the whole negative media story about Scientology’s celebs defecting (Kidman, Holmes, Haggis, Beghe, Anderson, Fairman, and the other lesser knowns in the last couple years, and how Leah).

        This is an issue.

        Maybe Shelly and Heber will show up! But I doubt Shelly and surely not Heber, will show up, just because she’s not ready and won’t pass DM inspection, and more likely the showing of the faithful celebs will be down this anniversary of CC, for the whole media negative story angle, I think.

        It would be interesting to have a side story from any ex CC Int staff who have been involved with the call-in that goes on, securing the celebs to come to the anniversary events for CC in past years. This years I’ll bet is lower than past years, overall, due to the trickle down distancing that the lower level celebs are feeling!

  • Vistaril

    Did Marty Rathbun really say “happy as a clam” ?

    • Espiando

      He must be serious about not wanting to be called a Scientologist. I think some people here may have underestimated how far he’s broken from Hubbard if he’s pulled that one out. Or, given that this is Marty, made a funny in the first place.

      • InTheNameOfXenu

        Marty is steadily becoming unhinged. It’s embarrassing to be called a Scientologist. It’s like being called a leper or pedophile these days. He still relies of Hubbard’s ‘tech’ for his livelihood, though. Auditing is very profitable even at the discounted rate ‘indies’ charge.

        • Cat Daddy

          Clïent Based Theraphy Rogerian style, Nothing wrong with that

          • InTheNameOfXenu

            True, there is nothing wrong with that but only if the therapy actually worked.

            • Kim O’Brien

              or if he was an actual therapist

            • Cat Daddy

              Therapist is not a protected proffesion. I can be a toad-lick therapist

            • Cat Daddy

              That is subjective, meaning if people feel helped they feel helped

          • Missionary Kid

            Even though all therapy should be client based, as opposed to $cientology auditing, which is $cientology based. He’s only about 30 years behind.

            • Cat Daddy

              So now he has a bigger and more exiting Game to play, And Hubbard sits on that line being the source of Inspirationn for this:

              Traumatic Incident Reduction and Applied Metapsychology Techniques:
              Operationalising Rogerian Theory in a Brief Therapy Practice
              Henry J. Whitfield

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks, I just guessed at the critical evaluation of Rogerian techniques. Marty is so backward, he doesn’t even realize how backward he is. Thank LRH for that.

              He needs to take some basic psychology courses first, so at least he’s familiar with the terminology, then he needs some therapy himself, instead of his journey of self-administered self-discovery, which only keeps him in his own private Idaho.

            • Cat Daddy

              He is free to do whatever the hell he wants, well that’s not entirely true in the police-state that America has become.

            • Theo Sismanides

              Cat Daddy, I also enjoy passing by here and have some chat with those awesome people who rarely wanna look at anything else but their own fixed ideas. I hope you enjoy your trip here and keep your head low as an advice.

            • Cat Daddy

              Thank you for your advice but I don’t even keep my head low on Why We Protest.I mostley am on my best behavior on Marty and Mike’s blog
              I come from the other side Theo

        • Theo Sismanides

          No wonder he relies on Hubbard’s tech (sorry, I will omit the quotation marks, if you permit, since I have had a personal experience of this). However he doesn’t want to be called a Scientologist! Interesting! Or should I say what an outpoint as we say in scientologese (for those who don’t know the word, please open up some Admin dictionary and not just be fed data by others).

          So my take is that Marty, squeezed by the pressures imposed on him because of the high post he had inside the church and the pressures and travails he had other Scientologists experience because of his actions (we call them overts, see Tech dict, for this one), has now made a russian salad out of it all and trying to get some balance in his life.

          • Cat Daddy

            I wouldn’t see myself as a Scientologist either if I ever dable with auditing and such. Even the Origin of the word Scientology is a big fat joke L Ron Hubbard played on you lot, The word is much older look it up.

      • Cat Daddy

        Look at his last post on his blog

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      Yes, clams know when other clams are happy ;)

    • GlibWog

      I saw a clam smile at me on a Florida Beach in 1974, but my hubby said it was only gas.

      • Bradley Greenwood

        I wanted to comment here…but I respect you all so much.

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      This is off-topic, but I has anyone noticed in the last few years there hasn’t been much talk about ‘clearing the planet’ in cult promo? It seems that the scilons finally realized how impossible that goal was even given a billion years to accomplish. They should start small like ‘clearing’ a city block…which will take 5 billions years with lots of luck.

      • Espiando

        But they have cleared city blocks. They cleared an entire city block to build a certain unopened building in Clearwater.

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          By clearing you mean occupying a space via real estate for scilons. By the measure, if they had more money they could clear a city if they had enough cash to buy up all the real estate.

        • RMycroft

          Phil Seiflein, a Scientologist, wanted to buy the Grey Moss Inn on that site in 1987. The building was damaged by arson in 1989. In 1991, Scientology bought the property. In 1992, Seiflein was on Scientology’s SP List. Did he get in the way of their development plans?

          https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/inside-cientologys-super-power-building.94196/page-2#post-1903563

      • Marie Claire Wolf

        A terror threat can clear a whole city, this scam hardly qualifies as a clearing mechanism.

      • Studious Judious

        seems to me instead of clearing the planet all they are concerned with is upgrading your status. Greedy bastards.

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          Clearing the planet is impossible, so upgrading your status replaces the prior.

          • ThetaTomato

            They can’t clear the planet so instead they decided to clear your bank accounts.

            • cicely neville

              LOL

    • FLUNK_101

      Yes, Marty is hip and cool now … he uses the word ‘clam.’
      But, when he said Shelly’s “as happy as a clam,” he prolly (most likely) wasn’t joking.
      What does it mean to this discussion?
      That people want her free, only she doesn’t know she’s trapped?
      Isn’t that the story of SCIENTOLOGY in a nutshell?
      No wonder she’ll have handlers!

      • Cat Daddy

        He lives outside the show now and picked up mainstream idiom

      • billLW

        Marty is not a happy man. He may actually believe that Shelly is happy as a clam, and perhaps he is in some way envious of her tranquil, carefree existence. For all of his blog posts about philosophy and psychology, Marty has yet to find peace himself. I’ve got nothing against the guy personally, but it seems obvious that he is still quite angry and quite immature.

        • Brian Thomas Lambert

          I respect him for his honest re evaluation of his personal views. Marty is moving forward, you have to agree.

        • Lady Squash

          I respect Marty and his blog helped me a lot in my early days of leaving the Church. I read his book recently, “Memoir of a Scientology Warrior”, and I recommend it, especially to Scientologists. For me, his story filled in some blanks.
          That said, IMHO, he is still under the influence. He still uses a lot of the lingo and he still defends the Suppressive Person Technology. He still thinks LRH was spot on and that it is just being misapplied. Are there evil people in the world? Of course, there are. But where is the evidence that it is because that person is stuck in an engram from somewhere on a person’s time track?
          Marty thinks that LRH was ahead of his time when he laid out the characteristics of an SP; and that a sociopath and an SP are similar. However,the main characteristic of a sociopath is lack of empathy. Nowhere in LRH’s Suppressive Person Tech, does LRH mention lack of empathy, not that I recall anyway.
          And Marty still thinks there was a conspiracy to destroy the Church. And maybe there was but maybe, just maybe it was because LRH misrepresented who he was and what the Tech could do; harmed a lot people; and benefitted financially from this misrepresentation. His T
          I would say that Marty is still under the influence. Is he suffering and unhappy because of it? I have no idea.

    • KJP in Portland

      (clam chorus) Happy, happy, joy, joy. Happy, happy, joy, joy!

    • richelieu jr

      Yeah, “happy as a clam.”

      Chowderhead.

    • WeStandTall

      If Shelly was really “happy as a clam up there and probably has been for years,” then why hasn’t she been able to attend a single church event in 7 years? Do you think she hasn’t noticed that she’s being excluded? Why can’t she respond to (or receive) Leah Remini’s Xmas cards anymore? Something doesn’t quite add up.

      I also have to question Marty’s saying, “over six years there are definitely opportunities, and this is not one of them.” Go look at photos of the CST base. That compound is tighter than Gold, with far fewer people and deliveries moving in and out. Attending a public event in Hollywood IS an opportunity. And let’s hope Shelly takes advantage.

      • USA MRIID

        Be amusing is the insane ringleader actually dragged her to the show room and she broke free long enough to scream “HELP ME! WON’T SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!??” :) Would be amusing to see that insane dwarf start slapping her to shut her up right in front of all 40,000 remaining world wide Scientology customers.

    • USA MRIID

      Awesome if David drags Shelly out wearing a choke chain around her neck. When she starts to try to scream “HELP ME SOMEBODY!!!11″ he can yank that chain and shut her up quickly.

    • Mary_McConnell

      ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sidney18511

    GMA just said that they will be having a Leah story comming up.

    • Marti

      Just watched it Sidney. Fantastic. You go Ms. Remini!
      Where is Mrs. Miscavige?

      • Sidney18511

        It was great! How many times did they say the name Shelly Miscavige? And the BEST NEWS Leah IS going to be writing a tell-all.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I’m going to guess that Leah’s tell all might have something to do with producing a shell of Shelly if it happens.

  • Xique

    Maybe Shelly is “happy as a clam” and then again maybe she’s not.

    • villagedianne

      Didn’t somebody recently report that Shelley said “There’s only one way I’ll leave here”. That doesn’t sound like a happy person to me.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Yeah, that was just a bit telling.

        • villagedianne

          The only thing she may be glad about is to be away from her husband’s insanity.

      • Xique

        You’re right. And who would she have said that to, I don’t remember? It’s pretty depressing really.

        • HeatherGraceful

          She said it to Rinder, IIRC.

          • Robert Eckert

            To a source who relayed it to Rinder. No way would Rinder personally get anywhere inside Twin Peaks.

          • Xique

            Thanks

    • Observer

      It seems that clams in general aren’t very happy these days.

      • sugarplumfairy

        I was in rhode Island this weekend.. Everywhere I went, people were digging for clams.. It’s no wonder they’re not happy..

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Now I want a clam sandwich!

          • sugarplumfairy

            The lobster rolls were amazing too..

        • CharlieWaters

          Or as we call ‘em here in the Ocean State, quahogs.

          • sugarplumfairy

            the stuffies were awesome!

  • Ivan Mapother

    Proof of life? Wouldn’t producing an ear or toe be more cost effective? Have you priced a designer dress lately?

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      A Getty copycat, although cost effective it is a tad too cutting a move for DM.

  • Watergate

    If Miscavige values celebrities, why wouldn’t a much bigger wheel than Elfman or Alley be squeaking loud enough to make him produce Shelly? I wonder if Cruise is the one who’s “impinging”?

    • Silence of the Clams

      Maybe there is enough ‘stuff’ in their files to keep them silent. Who knows?

  • BananaSplits8

    This little propaganda project has footbullet potential: it may raise more questions than provide answers to both those inside and out, and could be somewhat embarrassing to the celebrities present at the event for being accomplices and convenient photo op stooges in an attempt to bring credence to what everyone knows is a charade… and a terribly awkward one at that, I’m sure. (sorry for the run-on)

    “Aaaah Shelley, *cough* so nice to see you!” *forced smile*

    • BananaSplits8

      Or, “Shelley, where ya been?”

      A casually intended common greeting that slips past the lips and lands the utterer with 7 months of sec-checks.

      • GlibWog

        Or even.. ” SUP? “

  • Eivol Ekdal

    They would not put her in the LRH house but this building has ‘Hole’ styling…
    https://www.google.com/maps?ll=34.228696,-117.249794&spn=0.001262,0.001206&dg=optperm&t=h&z=20

    • ThetaTomato

      How cool is it that route 189 that runs parallel to Rim of the World Hwy is named “Squirrel Inn Rd”?

      • Eivol Ekdal

        should be “Squirrel Prison Rd” ;-)

  • BosonStark

    In Hollywood, the appearance of a wife at her husband’s side once in six years is considered a happy marriage maybe?

    Good to know Lou will be on hand if anyone needs to have their fingers bent back or David Miscavige needs an ecclesiastical blowjob during the scilebration.

    • BananaSplits8

      I like that Shelley’s husband’s mistress would be one of the people designated to “protect” her.

      Can’t get cheekier than that.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yeah, I was just trying to imagine That and wondering how much Shelly knows. It would be a real shame if protestors were standing all around all the entrances to the gala with signs like …

        http://i42.tinypic.com/ftezxz.jpg

        • Sidney18511

          Yep. Finding out your husband sent you away so he could have an affair with another woman, might just open her eyes and she could be the next in line to write a tell all book.

          • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

            I would not care how many mistresses my husband had if he flippin’ IMPRISONED me. Who cares where his dick is going after that, so long as he kept it away from me.

            • Sidney18511

              Lliira…..I understand what your saying, but if MR and other ex-insiders are correct SHE won’t think of herself as being imprisoned. She KNOWS that she was tucked away and forgotten and if that would of opened her eyes she might be out by now. But there is NOTHING like a CHEATING SPOUSE to piss a woman off and want to get revenge. Maybe she would be one of those pissed of woman.

            • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

              I don’t believe Marty.

              And I’m a woman and could forgive a cheating spouse. I could not forgive someone who goddamn IMPRISONED ME.

            • CraftLass

              Statistically, it is fairly common to cheat and relatively rare to have a marriage break up over cheating. So, I think a lot of women would agree with you, Lliir. Including this woman. Lots of relationships not only survive an episode of cheating but can even become better in the long run due to working on the underlying issues it exposes. I’d be angry, but it wouldn’t necessarily make me leave or take revenge (depending on circumstances). Relationships are just not that simple.

              Of course, since I can’t even vaguely relate to the notion of being imprisoned without feeling imprisoned, or having supported a spouse who imprisons people, or thinking that my incarceration could be for the greater good… Hard to put myself in Shelly’s mental place in any way. *sigh* Who knows how broken her brain really is by now? She seems rather twisted in her own right, by all accounts (even the accounts that are trying to show her as the nice half of that couple).

            • Kim O’Brien

              right there with you . Cheating is something that you almost brace yourself for …imprisonment …um …no thanks

      • BosonStark

        Lou protects Shelly from David’s penis. It’s important work and goes on as it always has.

    • shasha40

      Roflmao !

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    Well I would hope that if they do bring Shelly out that she is absolutely not allowed to speak to anyone so it just becomes more obvious that she is merely a deluded prisoner.
    Maybe the last few remaining clams with half a brain left at this shindig will finally have a cog and start to “get it”.

    Not gonna hold my breath though.

    • Once_Born

      Misgavige is used to having everything under his control (or at least used to the illusion of control) within the CofS and seems to believe that he is an administrative and tacital genius. However, whenever he has to deal with the outside world, he proves to be inept.

      Even if Shelly makes an perfectly-controlled appearance at the {big event} this will only encourage people to put additional pointed questions (what really happened to Lisa MacPherson? Why are there so many Deaths at Narconon? &c.&c.).

      By yielding to pressure, he has demonstrated his vulnerability.

      If the media keeps the pressure up, the CofS could suffer, ‘the death of a thousand impingements’, enhanced by many new Miscavige footbullets.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Well I am all for that!

      • Marie Claire Wolf

        Not having had the dubious pleasure of ever meeting the Miscarage, I am just speculating on motives here; I have my doubts about Shelley reappearing however briefly, this control freak would have a very hard time to bend down to public and insider pressures both, for the simple reason that he has set himself way above all and sundry. It does not fit his modus operandi.

        • Once_Born

          If he decides to brazen it out, and the question of Shelly is completely ignored, he has likely abandoned the outside world and is playing exclusively to his CofS captive audience.

          This will likely increase media pressure. It’s a no-win situation for him.

          • MissCandle

            So, let’s just say that cob is damned.

            • Once_Born

              Come to think of it, he is damned, in a sense.

              What does he really have? A distorted personality. A world view that is completely out of touch with reality. No meaningful education. No human relationships at all. An everyday life dominated by fury and cruelty and anxiety. No pity.

              A choice of meals and some sharp suits doesn’t compensate for that degree of personal emptiness.

            • Poison Ivy

              He is probably so narcissistically delusional that he doesn’t even realize he has “personal emptiness.” He’s delusional as most megalomaniacs are.

            • Robert Eckert

              In AA, someone once pointed out to me a way to feel better when you have had a run-in with some asshole: “Remember, you only have to put with him sometimes; he has to BE him, all the time.”

            • MissCandle

              Maybe sharp, but definitely small and short, suits. And definitely cruel, furious, anxious and empty shortness of a man.

        • i-Betty

          David Miscarriage of Justice.

      • USA MRIID

        “…whenever he has to deal with the outside world, he proves to be inept…”

        Most notably when he’s appearing in front of a Judge or being deposed, then he expresses his abject lunacy with every freakish, bizarre word he spews.

    • Observer

      I think there are some who will get it. Unfortunately there are a lot of others, like the ones in Black Rob’s “there’s thetan in my bathroom” thread on WWP who post gushing theta about COB and how grateful they are that he’s the leader of their “religion” and for how well he looks out for them, who never will.

      • GlibWog

        NEVER… sigh.. And the sad part is observer, I can NOT even imagine when it comes tumbling down, how they will survive with him in prison.

  • sugarplumfairy

    They’re probably fattening her up right now as we read this..

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      He’s had several weeks head start already. What I’m wondering is how he’ll be in two places at once. Isn’t the ship with the Permanent Tent due to arrive right around the time of the Gala?

      • Vistaril

        Time and distance are no obstacles to those who duplicate Xenu.

        You know, I’m liking the tent idea more and more. It seems, somehow, foretelling that the premier festival celebrations of the fastest growing Church cult in the world is devolving down to a circus. In a hundred years from now I expect Scientology will still be around, but found only amongst the amusement concessions. There, betwixt the Ghost Train and Beared Lady will be “Dr Hubbard’s Screaming Tomatoes”.

        • FingersCrossed

          How do you cross out a word like that? :)

          • Vistaril

            Open the “option” with the less-than symbol “” symbol – next, type the word(s) you want to strike-out, then close the statement with the “” to close the option. Do not include the speech marks.

            All manner of typographical tweaks can be achieved using that wee trick. You can make something bold and underlined or italics or all at the same time . Use “strike” for striking out, use “b” for bold, “i” for italics, and “u” for underline.

            Does that make sense?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Huh.
              That’s
              Mighty
              Laborsaving.

            • Vistaril

              What’s it called when the brackets are the [ ones like you get on some message boards?

            • Once_Born

              BB code, I think. It’s a sort of subset of HTML used in comments on forums.

            • Robert Eckert

              “Square brackets”, or just “brackets” (round brackets are “parentheses”). The “braces” {} or {vagina brackets} are also called “curly brackets”, and when less-than and greater-than are used as enclosures, they are called “angle brackets”.

            • sketto

              I’ll have to dig out my old copy of Strunk and White because, inexplicably, I can’t remember ever reading about proper use of vagina brackets.

            • monkeyknickers

              “Vagina brackets”? No way. Really? That’s what they’re called?

              Keep in mind that I believe anything anyone says. Even if it’s bracketed by vaginas.

            • Mark

              Please! Spare our blushes!

              Some of us prefer “Lady Parentheses”; others “Front-Bottom Interjections”… {}

            • monkeyknickers

              HAHAHAHAHAHA

              If I was a medieval princess, I would crawl over glass to secure the name “Lady Parentheses”.

            • i-Betty

              Hur hur :P

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Where have you been? I know you’re busy with little ones, but “vagina brackets” has been a thing for months now. Missionary Kid invented their usage for on the bunker and someone else called them the V name.

            • FingersCrossed
            • FingersCrossed

              well, that didn’t work lol

            • FingersCrossed

              I’ll have to work on it – does it work on facebook?

            • Robert Eckert

              “” is the GREATER THAN sign.

            • monkeyknickers

              OH MY GOD THAT IS SO TRICK UPSIDE DOWN STUFF. !!

            • aquaclara

              thanks!

            • Interested

              Will you quit it. I’m laughing so much I’m almost wetting myself. How can I quit being a bunker addict with this type of humour!

            • i-Betty

              Excellent! I’m going to copy this down somewhere. Thanks Vista :)

            • i-Betty

              Test

              Test
              Test

              Um…. :P

            • Robert Eckert

              Just “b”, “i”, and “u”, not the full words “bold” “italic” “underline” (although you do need the full “strike”)

            • i-Betty

              It’s just like school! I’d love to be in the same class as you lot. Don’t reckon we’d get much work done.

      • Tron Javolta

        For an Operating Thetan such as Davey, creating a clone of himself is no problem whatsoever. Especially as duplicating 3.5 feet of idiot is not as much of a challenge as a fully-grown sane person trying to do the same thing. In fact, I just tried it and it was impossible. All hail the mighty COB…

        • GlibWog

          Can I just add.. ” All The Fires Of Hell to the Mighty COB One Day! “

        • sugarplumfairy

          lovvvve your moniker..

    • GlibWog

      Oh Hell Yes.. I can’t imagine the feast that she is having. And if she does show up the Hair, Make up, Gown will all be to die for. ( sigh ) ” Nobody puts Baby in a Corner.” Well, except of course Tiny Boots.
      I can hear him screaming now.. ” SOFT LIGHTING.. NO CLOSE UPS.. ” BUT Tiny there isn’t enough eye make up in the world that will give her a Soul.

      • Interested

        Had the same thought… Why did the picture of a pig being led to slaughter just pop into my mindless brain!

  • shasha40

    I understand Shelly may be a very dedicated Scion , but who wants to live in seclusion ? I hope main stream media pays attention and Blasts it all over , here’s Shelly and…she’s gone again . Tiny d*ck , kick off your shoes you’re going to need your toes too , to plug the numerous holes in your dyke. Tick, Tock !

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      If she is really that loyal to LRH, then maybe…just maybe she now realizes that her “husband” is the worst thing that ever happened to Scientology.
      She is probably torn between the two opposing thoughts….but who knows what she will do.
      Most likely…exactly what she is “drilled’ to do.

      • shasha40

        I hope she can see it, especially once she’s flanked by her hubby’s girlfriend, ah I meant , assistant .

  • BosonStark

    It won’t be a true Scilebrity gala unless Tommy “Xenu” Davis is there also. Maybe one of the scilebs can ask Shelly, “Where’s Tommy?” Unless another status-checker has been assigned.

    Maybe Tommy can tweet in: “Nobody has the fucking status to ask about me.”

    • Graham

      Is he not in the process of re-inventing himself as Thomas Davis?

      • BosonStark

        Tommy goes on working for the “Church” as he always has, he just chucked his billion year contract and goes under a different name, that’s all. He’s still very devoted to LRH and Xenu, of course.

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      And where is Barbara, and Heber, and whoever else has been awol from the visible Co$’ lacales.

      • USA MRIID

        I want to find out what the fucking insane conman has done with Helena Kobrin, Ava Paquette, and that filthy pile of greasy shit Eliot Abelson.

  • Simon

    I thought it’s obvious where Shelley is. She’s on Target Two being audited by LRH himself. Although I hear he’ll soon be going on the run because he’s being pursued by the IRS on Target Two for evading taxes again.

    • Robert Eckert

      Too late: the Target Two authorities tricked him into coming in for an “audit” of his taxes (he forgot to word-clear it), froze him in an alcohol and glycol (which is antifreeze anywhere else), stuffed him in a volcano and blew him up with a hydrogen bomb.

      • Simon

        “stuffed him in a volcano and blew him up with a hydrogen bomb.”

        I heard that’s the ending of After Earth.

  • baddog5623

    There is a story about STALIN where he looked up and saw a poster of Lenin and himself. He told his henchmen to remove Lenin, they protested and asked why? His responce was, the Sky does not share two Suns! I cannot help think if Miscavige could get away with these people having accidents he would.

    • Simon

      Who says he hasn’t?

  • Sidney18511

    The “anonoymous sea org members” who are blogging and spilling major beans from their “inside perch” have said that it is possible that Shelly could have been or is now being kept at MSHs old house.
    http://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/2013/08/03/michael-doven-grant-cardone-written-up-for-trying-to-hide-their-scientology-affiliation-tom-cruise-still-furious-about-cultists-outreach-to-his-kids/

  • Simon

    Nancy Cartwright – I was genuinely shocked a few years ago when I found out she’s a Sciloon. But I was even more shocked when I read she gave $10 million to the COS. Wow. Ten fucking million dollars. For Miscmidget, she’s clearly the gift that keeps on giving.

    • BananaSplits8

      And all she has to show for it is an incredibly ostentatious but completely bogus royal scientology title. It’s something ridiculous like Her Royal Highness Duchess and Admiral-for-life of the Southern Rockies and Tri-County Area.

      Not easy to google, though.

      • Simon

        Didn’t she get some pathetic non-award called the Patron Laureate award? :-D

      • Robert Eckert

        BosonStark has it right above; it came up in one of the Sunday Funnies a while back.

      • Marie Claire Wolf

        Like named Honored Concubine of Xenu.

    • BosonStark

      She’s also has “New Civilization Builder” status and has been crowned “Her Royal Governor of the Vast Valley Territory” for her Scientology cuckoo-do.

      • Marie Claire Wolf

        Cheap door prizes and meaningless titles in exchange for hard currency, who could pass up such a great accolade.

        • BananaSplits8

          And the frames would be worth a buck or two at a garage sale, so there’s that.

        • sketto

          Well, it shows just how warped Scientology’s ideology is that they rank humanitarians based on money. Platinum Humanitarian ($750,000) is clearly much more humanitarian than just a plain, old, ordinary humanitarian who only donates $100,000.

          I think they need to word clear “humanitarian”.

  • juliusstahl

    Knit sweaters for LRH when he returns. #whatshellymiscavigedoesallday

  • Simon

    Are Kirstie Alley and pals able to do anything without having to first ask the COS what they should do? I mean, when she takes a dump, does she phone the COS to ask how many wipes she must make before flushing?

    • villagedianne

      How many wipes? That’s a questions only celebrities or whales will ask. Regular members have no money for TP.

  • Bob

    If GAT II is not released yet it is doubtful Mouse-caviage will attend the gala. It will all depend on how he wants to roll out GA of dreck 2. That is his main focus. We will see as the CCI promotion is rolled out.

    • Vistaril

      Are you sure that’s David Miscavige’s main focus? Given the distance between reality and Planet Scientology, I imagine David Miscavige would just lurve to go to the Ball, but he’s waiting, hoping for an invite from that special person. At the moment David Miscavige is probably wandering around wondering . . .

      • GlibWog

        Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhahahahaha OMG.. That is beyond fabulous.. I can’t stand it.. I don’t know which is funnier Tiny or Tommy..hahahahhahahah

      • Mark

        What’s he got all those kiwi-fruit in his underpants for?

        • Vistaril

          Don’t mock. The outfit is cutting edge in Scientology management circles. It is a subtle play on fashion, presenting a couture / pacific-cuisine fusion, with a twist: its inside out. See, with a Kiwi, the green is on the inside and the brown hairy wrinkled skin is on the outside. The ensemble was designed by Scientology artiste Ted Stourton and hand-sewn by the children being held prisoner that attend the Haiti Volunteer Minister compound School.

          • Mark

            Ah yes. Krusty seems to have adopted the new couture/cuisine look too.

            • Vistaril

              Its all cuisine with Krusty . When it comes to couture, I happen to know David Miscavige has imported sufficient fabric to create a party frock just for her. I can’t let too much out just yet, but, umm, well . . . you know that tent Scientology says is for a special event?

            • Mark

              No wonder they’re having to import it from the UK. The one with the special reinforced girders.

      • Bob

        Good one! He does love to mix with the Scielebrities. But there seem to be less and less of them.

      • KJP in Portland

        Love it…roflmaopmp!

      • i-Betty

        LOL!!!

  • Bird88

    Crazy Scientology you trot her out, so what does that change the fact that she has been missing for 7 years, and how dodgy you are about anyone who has asked about her, fuckers.

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      I do not think that a controlled ‘apparition’ is in the works, as you say it is hard to make light of 7 long years of going missing/on a retreat/on a mission/incommunicado/imprisoned, besides which DM views himself as infaillable, not unlike the pope. Why glorify all the queries by show and tell? I do not buy this.

    • junojones

      Not just anyone. Leah considered her a very good friend. Some of the inquiries are from people who heard from her or saw her frequently before she disappeared.

  • InTheNameOfXenu

    By trotting out Shelly now, it’s only a PR maneuver to Slience the Clams. We in the real world will see it for the bull-shit it is. If Rathbun is right and if tight security around Shelly will prevent any celebrity from even approaching her, this will validate what Leah was complaining about. Some of the celebrity clams will notice this, but will keep it to themselves. This will fester in their minds and perhaps someday will be the catalyst for some of them to finally leave the cult.

  • Mark

    If Shelly Miscavige is exhibited at Shortarse’s CCI ‘celebrity’ bash, for those attending it will be like the Chestnut Tree Café scene in Orwell’s 1984 where the “rehabilitated” old guard revolutionaries make one final ghostly appearance.

    But this is probably more how Shrivelled Schlong sees it:

  • Nevermore

    How lovely, she gets to go to a Gala, and her husband’s bit on the side is her minder – who in their right mind would accept humiliation like that?

    • Mrs Libnish

      Wouldn’t it be rich if someone accidentally let slip that her husband was giving it to Lou?

      • Sunny Sands

        I think she already knows.

      • Nevermore

        I suspect someone’s already let that one slip to her – maybe she didn’t take it too well, hence the extended disappearance?

      • Robert Eckert

        The question to Rinder “Is Dave still wearing his wedding ring?” shortly before her disappearance would seem to indicate she was perfectly aware from the beginning.

        • Mrs Libnish

          I don’t know about that. I bet she was scared she pissed him off because of the re-org of positions and gutting the shacks they were living in.

    • KJP in Portland

      …bu, bu, bu, but…their NOT in their right minds! (are they?).

    • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

      I wouldn’t care about the “bit on the side” if my husband imprisoned me. Except to be worried about her safety, considering the shithead she was taking up with. At least she would be keeping him away from me. The marriage was over the second Miscavige put his wife in a prison.

      • Nevermore

        Of course, we’re assuming that she no longer loves/wants/can stand to be in the same room as Davey baby. What if that’s not the case??? :-O

        • i-Betty

          *shudder*

    • BananaSplits8

      I also find it hard to believe that even in alleged lush and pampered surroundings, the thought never crossed Shelly’s mind that Miscavige disposed of her in all manner relevant to a divorce except the division of property. This is a bargain that has been made entirely at her expense and again I find it hard to believe that she could possibly be so naive to have not thought of this these past 6-7 years.

  • Ms. B. Haven

    It would seem like a foolish stunt that would be easy for anyone to see through if Shelly were trotted out for a staged public appearance at the Celebrity Gala. It wouldn’t be the first time though. Other obviously staged events that come to mind are RJ85, the LRH death event, and that time when the semi colon error correction was announced. All of these received painfully interminable standing ovations. The good news is, for some, these are the straw that breaks the camel’s back of cognitive dissonance and it provides an opportunity to indulge in further exploration on the internet to see what is really going on.

    Whether Shelly shows or not, I think it is a good idea to keep up the pressure in whatever way possible to get scientologist to continue to look and start asking questions. I’m glad Heber was mentioned here, because he is another one to ask about. As far as I know, he is still the President of the Church of Scientology. Where’s Heber? What about Guillaume Lesevre? Isn’t he still ED Int? I have been out too long to know of other high level execs who have been disappeared, but I am sure that there are many. What about Diana Hubbard? It is well known that long term, high ranking folks have been disappeared over the years, just vanished from the “scientology history books” as if they never existed. One that comes quickly to mind is Yvonne Gilliam. I think she is the one who actually set up the first Celebrity Centre, virtually no mention of her anymore. A CC Gala is a great time to ask about her, especially since she was married to Heber until her untimely death. Any questions about the history of the organization one belongs to are reasonable, legitimate questions.

    As others have mentioned in the comments, there is some interesting speculation at: http://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/
    Some of the names listed on the property in question are very interesting. Neville Potter for one. I remember him as one who wrote some beautiful poetry or lyrics for some Return to Forever albums featuring Chick Corea and Stanley Clarke, both well know scientologists (at least Chick, not sure about Stanley these days). Neville’s connection to DM as mentioned in Karen dlC’s comments are very interesting indeed. What a rats nest of subterfuge.

    • Sunny Sands

      Yvonne Gillham Jentzsch died of a brain tumor in Clearwater. Sorry to be the bearer of sad news.

    • USA MRIID

      “Where’s Heber?”

      He’s still on KFI AM 640 Talk Radio trying to wrest the microphone away from Dennis Erlich. “You’re on drugs right now, aren’t you, Dennis! AREn”T YOU! Get yer hands offa me! GET YER HANDS OPFFA ME!!!1″

  • Kim O’Brien

    How would Marty know if Shelly is ” happy as a clam” or not ? WHERE IS ANNIE YOU ASSHOLE !!!!! She tried to leave and you dragged her back and left her with someone that you knew was crazy . Oops .

    • sugarplumfairy

      Lrh stole most of Annie’s life.. miscavige took the rest of it.. Marty should have let her get on that plane..

    • GlibWog

      Excellent question Kim.. ” Marty how would you know if she is as ” Happy as a Clam?” Given the Evil Cult’s history I am calling Bull Shit.

      • Kim O’Brien

        i am getting tired of his 2 cents to tell you the truth . It is just the same over and over with him when he offers his “inside look” at scientology. At the same time , he talks out of the other side of his mouth and still wants to hook people up to cans only now call it “therapy” . The guy was bragging about classes he took in JUNIOR high school on his blog a few entries ago. After the Annie B. story …i just look at him the same way people look at DM and the overall cray cray of the {church} …and i am waaaaaay past the ” we all do things we regret ” response. The only people who do the shit he did ..are sociopaths . He would still be there in his fake Navy freaking uniform , saluting a dog …and “recovering” people back to the church …if only DM was not so gosh darn mean to him . UGH …( sorry …rant over …joint rolled ;)

        • Once_Born

          “in his fake Navy freaking uniform , saluting a dog …”

          I live in a city that is home to a Royal Navy training establishment and a Royal Marine barracks.

          Once you get over the initial surreal effect of Sea Org group photographs, complete with over-the-top lanyards and decorations, the ceremonial swords and all the other daft accessories, you realise what an insult they are to any real navy.

          I console myself with imagining what would be likely happen to {Sea Org Officers} if they “stood tall”, wearing those uniforms, in a city pub frequented by real sailors – preferably on a Saturday night.

          • i-Betty

            Ha!

          • Missionary Kid

            I’d buy a round just to watch the fun.

          • Kim O’Brien

            it is insulting to people who are actually …ya know …warriors . Pisses me off

          • cicely neville

            One of these days, when I stop foaming at the mouth so can see the keyboard, I will write up a little personal view of the above subject.
            lrh’s Naval record is online. If you’ve never seen it, it makes amusing reading.

            • Once_Born

              I seem to remember that he:

              (1) Expended all of his depth charges on a magnetic deposit close to home, and had to return to port.

              (2) Was removed from command when he ordered his crew to fire on Mexican territory for target practice (apparently unaware that firing on a friendly power might be frowned upon).

              (3) Developed a medical dictionary’s worth of elusive ailments that prevented him joining a ship that was likely to see combat.

              {Ron the War Hero} never did manage to get anywhere near the fighting, did he?

        • GlibWog

          Kim.. Toke away ha.. The other day I was discussing the indie with an indie… I exaggerated and said that I lurked over at Marty’s blog for a year.. OK to clarify it I skimmed.

          I lurked at VV and then here and other places..but Marty’s difficult to get past the Blustering. I also stated I read all 3 books. I Read the First one and skimmed the Second and third wanted to get to the meat to wear he Apologized profusely for all his crimes and how he corrected his mistakes with his victims. ( OMG Right..hahahah)

          The only thing Truthful I ever heard from his mouth is that when he was forced to move he mentioned the word ” Karma.” Yep
          Marty I have tried to walk a Mile in your Shoes. I couldn’t walk a step.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      “But she made her choice”…

      See now you brought up Annie and I am going to have a bad Marty day.
      (like that is different from most days)

      • FingersCrossed

        I don’t anything about this Annie person.. could you direct me to a link maybe? (New to this site)

        • junojones

          Search for Annie Tidman or Annie Broeker.

          Once a top exec and caretaker of Hubbard, She tried to escape and was brought back to die a lonely death

        • BananaSplits8

          I hope my linking works. If not, Tony’s article is titled Death of a Scientologist: Why Annie Broeker, Famous in the Church, Had to Die in Secret

          Bring tissues.

          http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/annie_broeker_ann_tidman_scientology.php

          • FingersCrossed

            Thanks you guys – I read it. So sad..

        • Bury_The_Nuts
          • HillbillyWog

            I read the article–was she allowed any medical treatment after she was diagnosed with lung cancer?

            • Robert Eckert

              Almost certainly not. She “pulled it in” (their phrase for karma: anything bad that happens to you is your fault) so the “cure” was for her to confess her faults in endless auditing sessions. The mortality rate for cancers in Scientology is notably high: no-one has run actual statistics but we hear of cancer deaths with such astonishing frequency that it can’t be doubted this is out of the normal range. Some have suspected something carcinogenic in the Scientology environment but it may be that the incidence of cancer is no more than normal, just that their cancers so often go untreated until too late.

            • HillbillyWog

              Thanks for replying–unbelievable. It’s suprising that Mary sue Hubbard lived as long as she did with cancer.

    • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

      Marty can’t admit that often, terrible things happen to people over which they have no control and which are not their fault and from which they cannot escape. It would mean admitting all of Scientology was a lie. It would also mean admitting he hurt people who did not deserve it. Repeatedly.

    • monkeyknickers

      I JUST saw a vid explaining that story. It’s heartbreaking.

      • Kim O’Brien

        makes me LIVID

        • GlibWog

          OMG SCREAMING LIVID with you Kim. beyond sickening… and the video of Marty smirking..ugh.. As Logan waiting for his love. Just sickening.

        • monkeyknickers

          I watched Marty Rathbun describing this event, this poor woman who was SO close to escaping, and his tone is almost . . . . I dunno . . . . pedantic, to borrow Tony’s word for the day. That’s what’s breathtaking to me.

          If I ruined someone’s life, and single-handedly dragged them back to sorrow and suffering and pain, I would NOT be able to recount it like I was reading Peter Rabbit.

  • Papa Xenu

    I think the real reason the celebrities want Miscavige to produce Shelly isn’t so much about their concern for her well-being, but rather their concern for all the negative press that her disappearance has caused. They simply want Miscavige to produce a living/breathing Shelly so the press will drop the issue. Once he gives the press ‘proof of life’, Miscavige can send her back to wherever he keeps her & the celebrities will consider the matter closed. The questions regarding why she disappeared, was it voluntary, was she treated well & if it was her choice to not be seen/heard from will be irrelevant. Their only concern is related to the problems her disappearance has cause them & their church. Remember, her well-being is secondary in terms of what is best for greatest number of dynamics. The well-being of the church is paramount.

    • GlibWog

      Papa.. That is exactly what I thought ! ” Ya better bring out Shelly so THEY will shut their Yaps! “

      • RMycroft

        And if he does, then he’s dancing to our tune. That’ll burn.

        • GlibWog

          Yep.. Burn Baby Burn

          • When_Pigs_Swim

            Disco Inferno…. Wonder what JT is thinking now?

    • BananaSplits8

      “They simply want Miscavige to produce a living/breathing Shelly so the press will drop the issue.”

      With the attention Leah Remini has brought to this, I’m inclined to think the press wouldn’t be so credulous as to be satisfied with a staged momentary glance and/or celebrity assurances that Shelly is fine. I’m pretty sure they’ll want too talk to her and will take good note when the cos refuses.

      • iHateDuplicity

        This is what it all hinges on: Whether or not anyone in the press will actually step up and try to gain access to her. The “dead agent caper” on “Where’s Shelly” will work if they pull her out, have her visible at the Gala with photos taken of her and Dwarf Midget together (even if they are just sitting together) and then march her right back to CST or the small house in Hollywood or wherever she is doing “the good work.” And that will be it. For DM and the Scilons, that is all they will need to lay the matter to rest forever. But if someone could actually interview her, then there might be an opportunity to break through the veil. And that is what they will be making sure does NOT happen. The “Where’s Shelly?” campaign always had this weakness built in to it. It’s too easy to DA and make it go away. The only wonder about it has been why it’s taken them so long to actually do it.
        There are far more effective campaigns to execute from our side against the Cof$ that will have real staying power and cannot be so easily handled: the policies on disconnection, the obvious and repeated lies Dwarf Midget and OSA continue to put out about the ex’s, Scientology’s non-existent “expansion” and where the hell is the money actually going? These are things that should be being campaigned on much harder – especially the money trail. Follow the money. People get really interested in this sort of thing, as it gets into real criminal activity if you can show that Cof$ and Dwarf Midget are anything but a “not-for-profit” organization.

        • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

          There can be multiple campaigns at the same time. “Where’s Shelly?” is an excellent attention-getter, and also makes a big point about Scientology. This is an organization whose leader disappeared his own wife. That is a huge deal. Plus — I really want to know where Shelly is.

          Plus the fact that this cult is running more than one prison on U.S. soil is completely intolerable.

          • CraftLass

            Agree. “Where’s Shelly?” is short and sweet and I’ve noticed even people who don’t usually pay attention to anything to do with $camatology are picking up the refrain. It does sum up a lot of issues in two little words. There is a special level of horror in disappearing your own wife, you know? It resonates with people, I think, in a visceral way. That leads to curiosity and, hopefully, learning more about the rest of the horror show.

            I keep banging on this drum: Anything that helps make people curious is a good thing. A very good thing. I’m stunned by how suddenly people who laughed at me for my interest in this are becoming very interested in details. “Where’s Shelly?” is a big part of why that is changing.

            • BananaSplits8

              The general public is getting educated. I was reading the comment section of a Leah Remini article on HuffPo a few days ago and was quite surprised at the level and variety of specific information these people knew. It was leaps and bounds better than last summer during the TomKat divorce.

        • Graham

          “if someone could actually interview her”

          Not much chance, given that Miscabbige himself is too scared to do interviews, as is Karin Pouw who is actually supposed to be the official spokes-person.

          • MarionDee

            Maybe people could start the phrase “Is Shelly mute?” or “Let Shelly talk!” (I know this is kinda weak, but I live in hope.)

            • BosonStark

              For six years, Shelly couldn’t be photographed, videoed, recorded, talk on the phone, or be seen in public but her lawyer says she’s fine, really.

            • GlibWog

              Yeah.. Fine Just Fine..

          • GlibWog

            Leah could interview her! I would give anything to hear that!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      That is the sad part.

    • MarionDee

      Henry VIII had more feeling for his wives.

      • monkeyknickers

        And depressingly, a more humane way of offing them. I would SO go with getting my head cut off rather than years and years and years of isolation and torture (a la Heber the poor schmuck)

        • Robert Eckert

          Catherine of Aragon got the years and years of isolation and torture.

          • Nevermore

            Given that he probably infected them all with his syphilis, except perhaps Catherine of Aragon, they were all lucky not to have to linger on into the tertiary phase.

            • cicely neville

              Researchers in the UK are now quite certain he didn’t have syphilis; looking at all his symptoms (unhealed wound on leg; corpulence etc.) they’re pretty sure he was diabetic.
              The violent rages appeared to have started after a severe head injury during a tournament. He also seems to have had malaria, not uncommon in England before the fens were drained.
              None of his children exhibited symptoms of syphilis.

              And technically speaking, he was never divorced – the marriages were annulled. He could remarry with a clear conscience, since he had ‘never’ been married before.

            • Nevermore

              No, I’m happy to regard him as a foaming mad, syphilitic bastard. Who may or may not have been diabetic too! :D

            • stanrogers

              He was also a couple of years early for that party; syphilis was pretty much a New World disease (obtained in a fair trade for smallpox and the common cold) which was very rare in Europe, let alone in Britain, until after the time of Henry’s death.

            • cicely neville

              i love how the Bunker rambles from the main topic into disquisitions on jet engines, English history and martini recipes. it’s like an endless cocktail party where all the guests are interesting and no one is disgustingly drunk, tho some of us may be a little funny at times…

            • Poison Ivy

              Good answer Cicely! Yes, all I have read on H8 seems to lead to a couple things – severe diabetes and traumatic brain injury. He was already a pretty tough customer but it wasn’t until after the tournament injury that he became often irrationally out of control. He was nearly pronounced dead after that injury – very similar to what we now know happens to athletes and soldiers who have severe TBI’s and mini-comas.

              I’ve always been bemused by the similarities in Miscavige’s reign of error and the monarchical reigns of medeival princes like H8. Lots of similar patterns – including the imprisoning of former trusted advisors when they start telling the prince stuff he/she doesn’t want to hear.

          • monkeyknickers

            Did she?

            Oh you’re RIGHT Robert – sent up north while the Fat Man brought in successors. Of course.

            Well, I made a very shitty analogy. Hmmm. Back to the books for me.

            • Robert Eckert

              She didn’t last for very many years; she was never very healthy, and the stress took her down.

            • BananaSplits8

              Also, he forbade their daughter from visiting her, which wasn’t very nice.
              Who knows, maybe Mary’s disastrous religious zeal as queen would’ve been tempered had her father not so viciously interfered in her filial affections.

              Disconnection: bad business since 1525

            • cicely neville

              A very good point.

            • MarionDee

              Catherine’s church was outlawed to create a new one for Anne Boleyn. That caused the torture of many practising British Catholics. Mary was completely her mother’s child, and her attempted revenge after Henry died was vicious indeed. Funny how some churches use such terrors –psychological and/or physical.

            • monkeyknickers

              She was much older than he, right?

              I realize of course that I could take 30 seconds and google it, but I SO SO would rather just . . . talk to a person. You know? Is Wiki going to give me its reflection on her state of mind? No. Is Robert Eckert? Yes.

              Mini rant completed.

            • cicely neville

              Hi Monkey – I’m not Robert, obviously, but I have the answer and would so much rather talk to you than do chores out in that hot sun.
              Catherine was 6 years older. Henry married her when he became king at 17. They had an apparently happy marriage for 18 years – (Henry only slipped up a couple of times; he wasn’t promiscuous.) They had 5 children, only one of whom lived – Mary, as strong minded as her mother.

              A few facts that might help fill out the picture: Catherine was part English, a descendant of Edward III, as Henry’s mother was. Catherine’s mother was Isabella of Castile (as in Ferdinand and Isabella.) A certain firmness a character shows markedly in both women; Isabella led her own armies against the Moors. For years. Catherine’s battles were fought on a much smaller scale but no less fiercely.

              If she had consented to being addressed as the King’s Good Sister she would have been allowed all sorts of privileges; but this would have meant bastardizing her child. She was never tortured, but rather increasingly isolated and moved from place to place, always to a worse one. It wasn’t so much on Henry’s direct orders as he simply didn’t want to know. He’d put her out of his mind. He was very finicky about his conscience, and didn’t like it troubled.

              Her last message to him said; “.. I make this vow, that mine eyes desire you above all things.” She forgave him for everything.

              There are many more, and fascinating, reasons for Henry’s annulling his first marriage than a lust for Ann Boleyn. Won’t go into them here and bore everyone.

              How are you doing? I think of you often with concern. Sour things help the nausea if you’ve still got it (hence the old saying about pregnant women craving pickles and ice cream, because the babies need extra calcium.)

            • monkeyknickers

              Oh Cecily . . . sour things are the ONLY things I want to eat right now. Anything pickled = straight down the gullet. Lemons, lime popsicles . . . . I pour vinegar on everything. :)

              Wasn’t the Church of England created by Henry for the sole purpose of “legally” disappearing Catherine? It just seems like such great lengths. Was he that much of an egoist? Like Caligula . . .

              And it’s so nice that you think on me ;) .. . . . I’m okay. I’m getting exhausted and my body hurts and all the normal things, but I am a little afraid now. And trying to pry money out of the twins’ father has been pretty irritating. Mostly I’m nervous about what’s going to happen with my career. I worked really hard to get to a place where I could reliably earn a lower minus middle class income while doing the thing I love the most in the worlds. I don’t care about money, except . . . for 3 littles it’s going to be a constant concern.

              I’ve seriously considered picketing solo in front of the big blue Sci building in LA with a sign that says “I want my fucking money back” OR “Scientology hates single mothers”

              :))))

            • cicely neville

              Hell, kid, Lientology hates everybody. It’s what they do.

              Henry was not insane like Caligula, but he did have a big ego. However, the reasons or the church split had to do with much more than Henry’s whims.

              This is the big historical error that enters the realm of urban legend, like Washington and the cherry tree; “Henry made his own church so he could divorce his wife and marry Ann B.’ Not true.

              Henry, who was very orthodox in his piety and had even written a book refuting Lutheranism, announced that he was the head of THE Church IN ENGLAND. (Sorry to shout, but I can’t make the italics work.) There was only one true church, and he would be the head in his own country. He could not form a different one because he had his authority as king, divine right and so on, from the Roman Church.

              Perhaps you’ve never heard of Anglo-Catholics. They are members of the Anglican Communion (Church of England; Episcopalians in the US) who are completely Catholic in practice and theology; all the smells and bells, saints, etc. but have nothing to do with Rome. The Pope is just another bishop. (Technically, he is just the bishop of Rome and is so referred to in some circles.) They are part of Henry’s heritage. Not all Episcopalians are that ‘High Church’, but are free to say they are ‘Catholic’ in the sense that they were never completely split off into a new group, as the Lutherans were.

              Now, Henry didn’t divorce Catherine; he got the marriage annulled the grounds for that are another story I won’t go into here). She wasn’t able to give him a male heir to ensure the dynasty would continue. You will say, who cares; but before the idea of democratic government, in the chaotic days of medieval Europe, a strong king meant stability and security. A good king kept the rapacious nobles in check. The Tudor dynasty was a shaky, parvenu one with little claim to the throne, but they were the only game in town; and you must understand, before the Tudors was one hell of a civil war, the Wars of the Roses. Talk about rapacious nobles. Nobody wanted to see that again.

              And something else was going on; as the medieval era faded, we see the rise of the modern nation-state. This is something new. Henry announcing that he’s the head of the church is part of this gradual development. ( And he didn’t do it on a whim, like Caligula making his horse a senator. There were elaborate legal arguments developed for it in council and Parliament; many Englishmen wanted it to happen.) He was trying to establish England as a power that could stand on its own, not dominated by either France or Spain, the Superpowers of their time. NOT a good man – tho as a youth he was very lovable- but he laid the foundations of English autonomy.

              Anne certainly enchanted him, for an incredibly long time before they could marry – 6 years I think – but Anne was Protestant by inclination and had he own agenda,and backed by nobles of the same bent. I have always felt she was used by her powerful uncle the Duke of Norfolk. And others. All the wealth of the church that Henry took went to reward the ‘New Men’ – the Tudor supporters who were replacing the old aristocracy which had been decimated by war.

              I seem to have written you a book. Is there an email address where I can write you without boring the whole Bunker?

            • monkeyknickers

              1) I adore you and your smartitude.

              2) I’m not trying to sound like a dick but it is amazing to me that Henry could’ve been that long-sighted. But I see it now that you explain it.

              3) I enjoy history. :))

              4) Write me a book ANYTIME. :)

              and 5)

              I’m banking on OSA not reading old posts . . . . . not because I care that they know who I am or my name . . . . but because I care they connect me with my sister and put her on the RPF for having a very vocal PTS. She has done a lot of fucked up shit and has stolen my money (under supreme pressure – I see that now) but she is still . . . . my sister.

              So you can reach me here:

              brannie_us@yahoo.com

              XOXO

              And also – poor Anne Boleyn, having to satisfy – in a variety of ways – that doughy fat man. Shades of Hubbard.

            • Robert Eckert

              There was an excellent book on Catherine of Aragon that I read some years ago, but I can’t remember the title now. Yes, she was older. At the end she was dying and flashing back to a young Henry, all resplendent on the Field of Gold (a spectacle set up for a summit meeting with the king of France), and she was thinking how she got the best part of Henry, and Anne Boleyn the worst.

            • MarionDee

              Not shitty at all. Except for Anne of Cleves, from whom he divorced somewhat amicably (though maybe someone will correct me on that), the very condition of being Queen of England in those days was a height to be feared. I am sure that being on that pinnacle is the same in Scientology.

            • Observer

              It doesn’t seem to bother Laurisse, who quite frankly does not strike me as a rocket scientist.

            • Missionary Kid

              She probably is just as power hungry, and DM uses that to manipulate her, IMO. She’ll probably go down with DM and the ship.

            • monkeyknickers

              Well that’s true enough, isn’t it Marion. Sci is the place where you pray you don’t get noticed – for your looks or for you skills at writing stupid speeches.

            • Kim O’Brien

              Great movie with Richard Burton called ” Anne of a thousand days ” …gives you the cribbed version …;)

    • Interested

      Oh so true. Look at Herber…. Is he still alive? And who else is missing?…..

  • BosonStark

    At the gala, I picture Shelly being lowered in a cage from the ceiling, where she’s hopping around and chewing on the bars.

    The announcer says, “Behold, Shelly Miscavige, working for the Church as she always has.”

  • sugarplumfairy

    Any news on Karen’s GMA appearance? I asked a couple patients to keep an eye out for me, but they didn’t catch anything..

  • villagedianne

    If Shelley is brought out, I doubt if she will be told the real reason for her appearance. I doubt if she will be told that the public and the media have been asking about her. Maybe Miscavige will tell her some fairy-tale reason. Maybe he will tell her that her exile is over, or that he wants to get back together with her. In this possible scenario, imagine how she would feel when this turns out to be all lies told to her so that she would put on a happy face for the celebrities.

    • Once_Born

      Just a thought… a pre-recorded appearance by Shelly, displayed on the big screen would be more controllable – and she need not have been told the truth about what it was recorded for.

      I *do* realise that this would not satisfy the media (or anyone else for that matter) – but that might not stop Miscavige from trying it.

      • BosonStark

        “I am sitting here in a secret vault having a delicious plate of rice and beans, and I just wanted to tell you all at the gala that David Miscavige is the bestest husband on the entire planet.”

        • Once_Born

          It wouldn’t take more than a sentences from her, taken out-of-context and liberally mixed with footage of the {happy couple} before they were {tragically separated} by their devotion to the cause. This could be followed by a moving speech from COB and…

          I’ll stop now. I’m frightening myself.

          • BosonStark

            Right, they are both so important for planetary clearing, they could never work in the same place again — tragic.

            I bet she’s looking kind tired for a woman who has been working tirelessly.

  • Sunny Sands

    I think Shelly will be at her table, and DM will make several complimentary remarks from the stage about Shelly’s invaluable contribution to GAT II, stupid powers, or whatever else he can think of, prompting a huge round of applause for her dedication to LRH. Unfortunately, that will probably be the end of it.

    • villagedianne

      Very astute prediction.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        Still the effect of the members seeing her again and her seeing faces that she has not seen in years is likely to have some effect.

        • GlibWog

          A shell of a broken woman.

    • aboutandout

      Your prediction make me so sad, I believe it is probably what is going to happen. Sad because it will dilute Leah’s story for leaving. Sad because it might slow down the momentum in the mainstream reporting. The ‘Where’s Shelly” campaign seems to be answered? (:

      • i-Betty

        It won’t stop us :)

    • Sidney18511

      Wouldn’t it be wonderful if someone there, anyone actually could update her on what’s been going on?
      All the miscavige’s that have blown. Her NAME being repeated on the mainstream news. Leah’s concern and defection. But most of all….how her husbands tiny dick has been parking in his communicator. How Lou has REPLACED her.
      If she knew all this there is no telling what she might decide to do or say. There is only SO MUCH a woman can take.

    • Marti

      “I think Shelly will be at her table, and DM will make several complimentary remarks”
      Sunny, She will most likely be in disguise.

      • Robert Eckert

        “in disguise” would defeat the whole purpose; might as well just leave her up in the mountains.

        • Marti

          Robert, It’s a joke

          • Robert Eckert

            Ah sorry. She will probably be ready for her close-up.

          • sugarplumfairy

            I don’t get the joke.. What did I miss?

  • Simon

    Why hasn’t TC been concerned about Shelley’s disappearance? Just as Tony said in his open letter, shouldn’t the Top Gun have been concerned? Or maybe he’s known all along? If he really is party to all the disgusting, sinister activities of the Sciloons, then his nice guy image is not deserved.

    • villagedianne

      I imagine that Miscavige has told Cruise that he’s shocked, shocked to discover that Shelley is a big ol’ SP. Cruise, having been married to a couple of SP’s himself, will sympathise. In this scenario, Cruise and Miscavige are the hapless victims of those SP wives. They can commiserate with each other.

      • KJP in Portland

        Commiserate in Leavenworth…I like the sound of that!

      • sketto

        Yes, they should both commiserate the shit out of each other. Probably are.

        • i-Betty

          Little bit of tea came out of my nose!!!!!!!!!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      You gotta be tough to be big being number three!

    • Spackle Motion

      Because Tom Cruise is a narcissistic asshole that doesn’t really care about others. I believe that his alleged “nice guy” attitude is a sham and one he uses to charm others.

      He’s received much material and ego benefit from the cult for YEARS, so why would he suddenly have the integrity to ask those questions and be vocal about the well-being of another human being?

      On another note, I find it odd that there haven’t been any more public Suri visitations. So either he is seeing his daughter in private or he’s not seeing her at all. I tend to believe that he’s not seeing her at all because that fits into his vapid nature and NPD (not to mention a disconnection policy too). It is very hard for Tom Cruise to do anything without the paparazzi finding out so there is a good chance that he’s abandoned his visitations.

      • i-Betty

        Hear, hear.

      • Aslansown

        I’m sure he’s seeing her, if only because he’s brought a $50 million lawsuit against the parent company of two tabloids that said he has “abandoned” her. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/tom-cruise-lawsuit-mediation_n_2818040.html

        • Robert Eckert

          He let it go to arbitration and now seems to have dropped it. MediaLush would know the details better.

          • Aslansown

            Really? I didn’t hear that. I haven’t seen anything since about March when I saw that story.

            • Robert Eckert

              I am just relying on my not-always-infallible memory. Like I said, MediaLush would be the one most likely to have the dirt.

        • media_lush

          the story was all bluster…. the main argument was that he had “abandoned” his daughter…. what was interesting was that his PR people put out a story that he visited his daughter after main filming of Oblivion in New York…. rather than allow at least one legitimate pap shot to quell the rumours a couple of media sites that were in his PR company’s pocket put out ‘clandestine’ shots of this supposed meeting in some park in upstate New York….. no major news site used these pics or even posted this story at all. I studied the pics and have posted them below with a comparison of a pic of Suri taken a couple of weeks either side of this “reunion”…. to me it’s obvious that the Cruise pics are at least a year older as the height difference is considerable. In my opinion Tommy Girl has disconnected from his daughter…. I mean, he’s had a lot of free time lately and has been papped all over the place, especially with Connor…… I hope his reckoning is going to be as disastrous for him as it so obviously is for his ‘best big-being buddy’….

          • Aslansown

            The one on the right reminds me of the famous Bigfoot photographs! I did think at the time that it was ridiculous that there was only that one picture instead of the usual ones of her getting into a helicopter with him, etc.

          • tetloj

            this also lends credence to speculation about Suri’s paternity

      • Interested

        Hey, TC is the one who ….. “kNOWS” …. One of the superior ones….. He does not have to question as he is a homo novis
        . Fun site on you tube by lolek30 the truth about TomCruise. And another is by Frankfoot Tom cruise scientology. Sorry I don’t know how to put a link here from iPad. Have a great giggle.

        • Missionary Kid

          The truth about Tom Cruise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVB7rYntS9k
          I couldn’t find the other one.
          You copy the url (the address that your browser uses) to your post, and it will appear on your post.

          • Interested

            Brilliant thank you.

            • Missionary Kid

              Not so brilliant, but it’s always good to help someone else out.

          • Graham

            Fantastic. “You apply the tech… and nothing happens”

          • Mark

            Lovely.

        • Once_Born

          Huh… sorry if this is off topic, but – “Homo Novis” (New Man)? Is this a term used in Scientology?

          I recognise “Homo Novis” as an coinage invented by Hubbard’s contemporary Robert A Heinlein (a real science fiction writer) in a novella entitled, “Assignment in Eternity.” The story concerned a group who believed they represented a new and superior human species. Heinlein later rejected the idea of “self-styled supermen” in an aside in his longer novel, “Friday”.

          Heinlein and Hubbard knew each other and, according to a recent biography (Robert A Heinlein: In Dialogue with his Century” Vol 1) Heinlein was taken in by Ron’s ‘War Hero’ story, despite the serious reservations of his friends.

          Here’s an idea for our esteemed proprietor – an ‘L Ron Hubbard spot the plagiarism day’.

          • Interested

            Hi, don’t quote me, but somewhere I read that LRH said that scientologists were the Homo novis.

            • RMycroft

              And the rest of us are wogs. “a common ordinary run-of-the-mill garden
              variety humanoid. Somebody who isn’t even trying.”

            • Kim O’Brien

              did you know that Tom Cruise was a homo novis ? Yup …he runs really fast …and can jump on a couch like a badass mofo

            • Interested

              Have you ever tried to jump backwards on a couch….. It ain’t easy… Needs loooots of practice… You have to be an OT….!

          • Missionary Kid

            I’m a fan of Heinlein, and I like to joke and degrade anything to do with the hub, but homo novus is an ancient Roman expression. As such, it’s not plagiarism.

            • Robert Eckert

              In the meaning Hubbard was using it for, it was plagiarized from Heinlein. In ancient Rome, homo novus was a derogatory term for “parvenu”, a person with “new money” trying to act as if he had aristocratic lineage.

        • Robert Eckert

          One nice thing about Disqus is that you just type the link like any other text, and it figures out the HTML to make it a live link (sometimes if you forget to put a space after a period then it decides it must be a URL and tries to make a live link in its overenthusiasm).

  • Truthiwant

    Exactly five hundred years ago, in 1513, Niccolo Machiavelli wrote ‘The Prince’.

    It’s a fascinating book to read with the thought of Hubbard in your mind.

    Machiavelli says things like “a prince must have the means to force his supporters to keep supporting him even when they start having second thoughts, otherwise he will lose his power.”

    or

    “A prince should only keep his word when it suits his purposes”

    Here’s one thing that Machiavelli wrote that Miscavige certainly heeds, “to be suspicious of everyone when hostile attitudes emerge”

    Of course the expression “The ends justify the means” is a recurring theme in the book although it is not said outright. However in one example Machiavelli says

    “…let a prince have the credit of conquering and holding his state, the means will always be considered honest…”

    One interesting little curiosity. Have a look at Machiavelli’s family crest. Strange coincidence, no?

    • Poison Ivy

      Holy cow – is that really it?

      • Truthiwant

        Yes, and I bet Hubbard saw it and copied it.

        Machiavelli was an interesting person and when we talk about Machiavellism, it is not because Machiavelli himself was an evil being but because he talks about cunning, amoral and opportunist ideas in his book ‘The Prince’.

    • BrianClear

      Machiavelli himself was not an evil person, and “The Prince” was written as a clever satire and a deliberate irony. Machiavelli himself did not endorse the evil behaviors he described in the book. Hence, his family crest is of no significance. Micahiavelli was a humanist and a diplomat. LRH was a delusional pulp fiction writer.

      • Truthiwant

        Machiavelli’s family crest is a cross with nails that form the second cross. It has nothing to do with anything evil. It has to do with Christ nailed to the cross.
        It is just slightly interesting that Hubbard used the same format. For what reason, I do not know but it is a curiosity. Maybe Hubbard had an admiration for Machiavelli? Who knows.

  • Erique SG Dougherty

    Leah is writing a book. Holy xenu! You know, books mean interviews…lots of interviews.

    As for Shelly, there are people here much more in tune with that but the notion she will be trotted out and praised by little fists as a dedicated scholar (insert ack, ack, ack anywhere here), sounds pretty plausible.

    But who cares. Leah is writing a book.

    • USA MRIID

      The Daily Show with Jon Stewart! Steven Colbert!

    • Robert Eckert

      Leah is not writing a book.

      • Silence of the Clams

        “It will include my experiences, everything that’s taboo to talk about,” Remini, 43, told Us Weekly magazine at a charity event July 27. Sounds like a book.

        • TonyOrtega

          My sources tell me it’s a misquote, and that while she may, down the road, consider writing a book, she isn’t planning to at this time. Everyone else has just jumped on the Us Weekly quote as fact. Again, I’m told she didn’t say it that way.

        • Robert Eckert

          Us Weekly did not get an interview with her at that event. They are relaying some remark of Leah’s third- or fourth-hand, and probably not accurately.

  • ze moo

    ‘Proof of life’ is not ‘proof of a functioning brain’. North Korean thought reform doesn’t leave a lot of thoughts behind. Shelly will have to appear to be functional and not Stepford at all.

    If Shelly should be trotted out, it will be for 2 pictures for the general public and tabloids or perhaps standing behind Davey with the other keepers of the Golden Shower of Tech 2 for all of clamdom to celebrate.

    Nobody but a major whale or cleb could convince the überfürher to produce Shelly for public or clam consumption. Only the credible threat of a major exodus could ‘make’ Davey produce Shelly for the clamdom either. Keeping any one particular whale or cleb happy isn’t necessary, that is what sec checking and thought reform are for. Expect the whale or cleb to show up around Shelly if she is produced, just so they can take the blame.

    Davey will trot out Shelly at some small venue that he can control absolutely. He looks too weak if she is produced at a major clamfest. Baddog 5623 said it well below.

  • Spackle Motion

    It’s too bad that Shelley isn’t made of stronger stuff and hasn’t escaped by now (assuming she’s still alive). Miscavige probably needs a few weeks to get her to a physical state where she doesn’t scare children by her appearance and I can only pray that regular sleep and real food may get her to a place where she can actually think for herself to plot an escape. I can’t imagine getting to a point where being afraid of the outside world is scarier than suffering years of abuse, malnutrition, and captivity.

    At least Miscavige’s own father had the temerity to escape. Now only if Shelley would do the same.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      It takes much longer than a few measly weeks to recover from prison life where she surely has a “handler” watching her every move and likely getting interrogated if she even Looks like she wants to leave. Who knows if she is being subjected to the same sleep and nutrition deprivation, or lack of adedquate non woowoo medical care, or subjected to regular screaming and verbal abuse or worse.
      Heber’s make up didn’t help his “look” either. I’d make bet that she will be made to feel Terrified of breathing the wrong way if she is trotted out for the event.

    • Interested

      Do you think Shelly will wonder where the rest of the Miscavige family are? Perhaps that could be the final straw…?

      • MissCandle

        After reading Jenna Miscavage Hill’s book, I bet Jenna would help her if Shelly wanted to blow.

  • Phil McKraken

    If there was indeed a possibility of Shelly making an appearance at this event, I would bet that today’s post in the Bunker has scotched the plan. There is no way that Miscavige is going to hand Tony credibility on a silver platter by verifying this prediction. He will find some other way to show her to the world. Perhaps a Big Brother-like reality show from her Bio-dome lockdown will be in order.

    • noseinabk

      I think Miscavige should do Undercover Boss. What better way to show all us wogs how a true leader runs his business? :-o

    • BananaSplits8

      Miscavige may also be a bit put out that Tony got the information in the first place.

      • i-Betty

        I’d love to know which celebrities are talking to Tony. Not as much as Dainty Dave would like to know, I bet ;)

        Thank you, whoever you are. We appreciate your covert operations on our behalf very much.

        • Studious Judious

          It would be poetic justice If the celebrity mole was JT.

      • USA MRIID

        Oh yeah, that’s true… Well… I sure hope that didn’t upset Davy.

    • sketto

      Or just kudos to Tony for keeping the story alive. Another story. Another reminder. Another problem for Miscavige.

      If Miscavige eventually gets nailed, it likely will be from a preponderance of problems that he can’t simultaneously fight. This is just another front where he’s weaker with every new revelation.

      • Nevermore

        Death of a thousand cuts. Make him bleed slowly, sit back and watch.

    • USA MRIID

      All it would take is for someone to post a comment, “Don’t do it, David! I ORDER you not to drag Shelly out of her prison!” and the stupid fuck would grab his shovel and dig her up and pull her out of her hole and prop the bones up just because he really is that fucking insane.

  • Observer

    I would think Davey would have to make at least a token PDA with his wife in his vain attempt to convince people that there’s nothing wrong. This could make for some drama if Shelly’s presence triggers a violent jealousy in Mistress Lou, and I have a feeling it just might. I only hope it happens where people can see it.

    • BosonStark

      He could bring in Tom Cruise as a public affection coach. Tom didn’t get that Freedom Medal of Valor for doing nothing.

      • Observer

        And he’s got a proven track record with the ladies! Oh, wait …

        • sugarplumfairy

          Only the brainwashed ladies..

          • Robert Eckert

            But they just won’t stay washed, even if you keep them on a leash…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMmn_ga1IJI

            • sugarplumfairy

              She’s making a statement about the leash.. No self-respecting feline would stand for that..

            • Robert Eckert

              Mimi, Nicole, and Katie were making a statement about the leash, too.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Lol..

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        and what is Most important, Who is going to dress Shelly now that the Lugili’s are Unfriended? Will Shel have to wear Miss Lou’s hand me downs? Will her hardresser force the Lou Look hairdo or wash the greys and blues away? And who will do her makeup and whiten the dark circles and bags under eyes? I don’t think there’s enough time or enough cucumbers in the garden to rid those by Show Time. Will Lou be wearing any kind of protective vests underneath her natural armor, just in case. And will Shelly wear heels or flip flops? If she wears flip flops, should we take this as a clue and siignal she wants an alertnative ride home?

        These are questions I’d like to know. Can’t wait. I sure wish we could “tune in” to a few of the many security cams in the palace.

      • ze moo

        Shelly would be the perfect $cientologist wife for Tom Cruise. Loyal, dedicated, obeys her husband. I have not seen any pictures of her smiling, so I don’t know if her teeth need filing. Think about it, win win for everyone.

  • KJP in Portland

    Here’s one I should’ve put in the Sunday Funnies: Have Davewad Massdamage pretend he’s a Buddhist monk and do the self-immolation thing :) when the end is at hand.

    • sketto

      Say, has anyone every compiled a comprehensive list of all the new names that Slappy Miss Coward has earned for himself? Just in this thread alone I’ve read several new ones that deserve to be spread.

      • Mark

        Ask Missionary Kid when he posts – he’s our official remembrancer of rude Bunkerite expressions.

        • Missionary Kid

          See my reply to Aquaclara. I listed them there.

          BTW, It’s unofficial. I just note the ones that strike me as creative or appropriate.

      • aquaclara

        And it could be helpful to Missionary Kid to tally a few; it could be hard to capture all the good ones spread throughout the comments lately!!

        • Missionary Kid

          DAVY MISCABBAGE NICKNAMES

          DAVID MISCAVAGE:
          Littlest Caligula
          Dinky Mindfuck
          Miss
          Cabbage
          Miscabbage
          Tiny Terror
          Dwarfenfuehrer
          Der Dwarfenfuehrer
          Tiny Fists
          Tiny Crackpot
          Diminutive Mouse
          Pseudo-Pope of the Unholy Alleged Church of Scientolonuts
          THE
          Merchant of Chaos
          Malignant Dwarf
          Osama Bin Davey
          Davey
          Miss Carnage
          Toxic Dwarf
          Mouse-caviage, rodent king of the
          clams.
          King of Footbullets
          Diabolical Davey
          maniacal midget
          Dinky McSavage
          His Imperial Teensyness
          Mouse-caviege
          His hole-iness
          Igor to “Dr” L. Ron Crankenstein.
          Darth Midget
          His Imperial Teensyness
          Shorty
          Poppet
          Der Kleinegrupenfuhreur (Der Kleine Gruppenführer)
          The small group leader.
          psychotic munchkin dictator
          Tiny dick
          Mousyscabiage
          bitty boots
          David
          Miscrab-itch
          His Midgetsy
          He Who Should Probably Wear Lifts
          lolliCOB
          Miss Crab-itch
          Dickless
          Miscarriage
          Shortarse
          Wankmeister
          eccsleazeiastical leader
          esleaziastical leader
          Squirrelscavige
          Turd Pope.
          Micromeglomaniac
          Miscmidget

          • aquaclara

            This is an excellent list. Add The Dark Lord, Chuckles the Silly Piggy. That’s Espi’s. There may be more!!! wow.

            • Missionary Kid

              Will do. Is “Chuckles the Silly Piggy” one term or two?

            • aquaclara

              The whole phrase is one. It makes me laugh every time I see it.

            • Missionary Kid

              Done.

      • Unex Skcus

        Dwarfenführer is my favourite… but I don’t know who to attribute it to.

  • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

    “If Shelly wanted to get away, it would have happened years ago.”

    This is victim-blaming and there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe it. We cannot possibly know this. She’s imprisoned. Escaping from a prison isn’t something that one can do easily.

    • BananaSplits8

      And the fact that the place is in the middle of nowhere shouldn’t have been a problem at all.

      • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

        Seriously. I sure wouldn’t be able to figure out how to escape from that place.

      • junojones

        Also razor fence tech, to keep bears out or in, or something.

    • sketto

      Damn right. Just another Rathbun rationalization.

      Just read about the shit that someone like Marc Headley had to go through to escape. And he was a young man with a motorcycle and some serious courage. And even that almost killed him and nearly didn’t work when the cult tried to stop him.

      What exactly does Marty think Shelley’s “other chances” were? She’s not James Bond. She’s in the middle of fucking nowhere, you ass!

      • Poison Ivy

        I imagine for the first couple years of her banishment, she was hoping that “any day now” she’d be done with her “assignment” and go back to the good life at Gold.

    • sugarplumfairy

      He wasn’t blaming her.. He was stating a fact.. If she wanted to leave, she could have figured out a way by now.. If not sooner, she could have gotten out at her dad’s funeral.. the prison of belief is not as easy to escape.. I understood exactly what he was saying..

      • RMycroft

        So she escapes, then what? Does she have any family or friends left outside? Obviously Scientology would have the biggest Blow Drill ever. I’ve read a number of accounts where the first time someone escaped, they were talked right back in again. Marty should know that since he did a number of Blow Drills on people himself. (When Marty took off, at least he had a motorcycle.)

      • Kim O’Brien

        i would think it would be made MORE difficult for her to leave…not less. Heber is the official Prez of scientology and we all know he is eating rice and beans and has been for years. I think his statement that she could leave if she wanted to …goes against everything he has been posting for years….” it is SO hard to leave…you have to make a plan …they will destroy your life …black dianectics ” line. Either you can leave and have no worries …or you can’t. The title of his book is Scientology Warrior …not …” Scientology , thanks but i have changed my mind ..nice knowing you ” .

        • sugarplumfairy

          Exactly.. If she’s still a prisoner of belief, she’s not ready to even think about leaving.. But if she were ready, she could have found an opportunity..

          • Kim O’Brien

            um ..no ..i meant the exact opposite of that . Razor wire tends to put a different slant on it in my mind. Even if she wanted to leave ..who is to say she could ?….Marty ?! That sounds like blaming the chicks who were in that nuts house Ariel Castro . She could be chained away as far as we know ..i mean she does have a fucking crazy person for a husband .

            • sugarplumfairy

              Exactly.. A real prison can contain a person, but so can a prison of belief.. Marty’s point was that if it weren’t for the prison of belief, she might have at least attempted an escape.. And he would know better than we whether or not she could have accomplished that.. I agree that Marty has some splainin’ to do, but I don’t agree that he was blaming the victim today..

    • NeverIn

      I agree. If the job is truly cushy, allowing her plenty of time to think and reflect and plan, she may well reason that staying there is the most pleasant option she has. BUT-

      Nothing I’ve read suggests that DM has the human capacity to set her up in such nice circumstances. Based on everything we know about everyone else’s treatment, isn’t it more likely she’s working insane hours under constant supervision, enormous pressure, with minimal personal comforts? Even a desk job would be hell under those circumstances.

      Now here’s the thing. When a person is chronically deprived of sleep, their capacity for planning and making decisions plummets. When a person is under extreme, prolonged stress, their ability to see the “big picture” is all but eliminated, and instead of their focus narrows to just surviving each pain peak. This is true for moms in labor, people suffering extreme illnesses, drug addicts, and regular people in terrible jobs. That would make escape hard enough, but for people on DM’s shit list it’s so much worse, because like domestic abuse victims and child sex slaves, the downsides of attempting to leave are spelled out for them over and over and over again through every peak and valley of their existence.

      And then there are those fences, with the spikes pointing in.

  • 0tessa

    I wrote earlier that I feared that Shelly might be dead. That comment was removed. Why?

    • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

      Lots of people have speculated Shelly was dead and said comments have not been removed. I’d guess Disquis had indigestion again.

    • Simon

      Sciloons don’t die. They discard the bodies they use in this life.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist
    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Thank you ma’am. May I have another?

    • BosonStark

      I’m not getting the “Church’s” statement about denying Leah Remini ever “publicly confronting” David Miscavige as to the whereabouts of his wife.

      Who said she ever did? Instead, she asked Tommy “Xenu” Davis and maybe some other people at the wedding, “Where’s Shelly?” Then she wrote up a Knowledge Report on him.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        It’s the non-denial denial. When accused of stealing from the offering plate, you state, “I didn’t kill the choir director.”

        • Ruby

          Exactly! They can 100% tell the truth and assert their arrogance in saying that “Leah never talked to Miscavige at the wedding on this! It’s a lie!!”. And then think they can get away with it, as if no one noticed that we all know it was Tommy she spoke to anyway.

          • Where’s Shelly?

            Well, she didn’t have the f’in rank to talk to Davey, and besides that, she’s glib.

        • Observer

          More sophistry. It speaks volumes about the moral compass of this “church”, the one who founded it and the one who currently leads it.

        • sketto

          Or when accused of stealing from the offering plate you scream and rant and yell about how offended you are at the question.

          But you never, ever answer the question.

          • Still_On_Your_Side

            Or, if it’s Miscavige, you claim the accuser did the stealing

      • sizzle8

        Tommy Davis, the gift that keeps on giving.

      • tetloj

        It’s a bit like Erika Christensen talking with amusement about people believing that scientologists worship rabbits…say…what now?

  • Roger Larsson

    A $cientology no longer controled by RTC is controlled by the net. It’s possible to put Scientology in a pipe and go all the way to OT IIX and to a class IIIXV auditor and save all the money $cientology can look for high up in the sky or deep down in its asshole.

    • Once_Born

      I remember visiting the website of an independent group who claimed to perform auditing remotely, using a webcam pointed at an e-meter.

      I should imagine that the lack of group face-to-face support in this arrangement may make it harder to believe that {the tech} is beneficial, or bestows any special powers – on the other hand, people who have never met seem to have formed bonds on this forum, so ‘distributed Scientology’ might attract followers.

      I don’t understand how RTC control, or the lack of it, makes a difference. If Scientology did work, you would surely be able to apply the same techniques, slightly rewritten – and second-hand copies of Hubbard’s books are freely available for very little money.

      Unfortunately, Hubbard was a fraud, and {the tech} does not work. You could go all the way {up the bridge} via the ‘net, but you would still find yourself in the same dead end.

  • mook

    Last year, the only notable celebs to attend the CC Gala, besides Nancy Cartwright, Kirstie Alley, Chick Corea, and Kelly Preston (sans Travolta) and the usual d listers like Jim Meskimen, Noelle North, Michael D. Roberts, Haywood Nelson, Eddie Deezen, etc. we’re Duane Martin and Tisha Campbell, possibly because they were on the board of directors of the New Village Academy.

    The fact that the bigger name stars are staying away speaks volumes

    • Simon

      Eddie Deezen’s a Sciloon? Oh, man!! What a disappointment.

    • Where’s Shelly?

      What do you mean Haywood Nelson, D-List? Didn’t you ever watch What’s Happening?

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    I think that if Miscavige does this stunt of trotting out a stepford Shelly, it will blow up in his face. Especially at CC Int. Celebs have to have finely tuned bullshit detectors, (in spite of the zero-day defects that let the cult spew through uninspected), and they will sense something is badly amiss.

    The only way this will work to Miscavige’s advantage to calm down the ‘where’s Shelly?’ questions is if she is free to engage in substantial unmonitored, (No Handler present at her elbow), interaction with people who know and care about her. AND she is friendly and engaged and is asked pointed questions about her being missing and answers them responsively and convincingly.

    A North Korea-esque propaganda stage managed photo-op will raise even more concern.

    • CraftLass

      Of course, you are right, but you seem to be coming from a place of rational thought here. We all know that DM is incapable of such things and sure does seem to love to emulate N. Korea at every opportunity…

      Kudos on the term “Stepford Shelly” btw. :-)

  • Mr. Fabulous

    It will be interesting if Slappy McPunch presents Shelly at the next clam meeting, but unless she openly allowed to talk to people, I think many will be suspicious. I hope there’s some decent journalists around to cover this possible upcoming appearance, and better still, chomping at the bit to speak to Shelly in person, though I can’t see the cult allowing that. Most likely, there will be a brief appearance by her, then a long, bullshit-ridden puff piece in Freedumb Magazine, where Shelly tells us all how wonderful CoB is and how she’s that happiest clam in the world, doing important work for Ronny The Racist and Teegeack.

    • Poison Ivy

      “Journalists” covering a CO$ CC event? Dream on. You can’t even be IN CO$ and be a journalist.

      • Mr. Fabulous

        Oh, I realise that no journos will be allowed within spitting distance of the event. One does not need to be on the inside to cover a story. The spectator sees more of the game. :)

      • Where’s Shelly?

        You don’t have to be there to report on it. You can just make it up like LRH did.

  • Jgg2012

    Maybe they should trot out the reincarnation of LRH. That would distract everyone from Shelly.

    • Where’s Shelly?

      Ron’s reincarnation came to Earth a few years back. He joined up again and didn’t like the way Davey was handling it so he blew.

    • tetloj

      Didn’t scientology lose that in the Tomkat divorce?

      • Jgg2012

        Yes. Actually, I would like to see something like the South Park episode–he’s identified, and then he says the whole thing is nonsense.

  • Bradley Greenwood
  • Vinay Agarwala

    To me the issue is whether David Micavige was really being too close to his female assistant. If he were not then “Where’s Shelly?” may not have gained so much attention from Leah. Looks like this point is being overlooked.

    .

    • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

      How is it more of an issue that Miscavige may be having an affair than that he imprisoned his own wife?

      • Vinay Agarwala

        Imprisoning his wife is an assumption. Having a cosy relationship is not when it is visible. From that the question arises, why does he not have his wife with him to have a cosy relationship.

        After all he is a religious leader and a man. What is the rational thing to do?

        • BananaSplits8

          He plainly and simply grew tired of her and didn’t want her around anymore. And as I said in another post, he disposed of her in all manner consistent with a divorce except for the very inconvenient matter of division of property to which she would otherwise be entitled to.

        • 0tessa

          Miscavige is a psychopath. He definitely is not a religious leader. He is a dictator plain and simple. You have no idea what has and still is going on in Scientology Inc.
          Oh yes, people have been imprisoned, abused. People have been killed.

          • Vinay Agarwala

            You need proof that a court of law would accept. What keeps me paceful, and not agitated, is mindfulness.

            .

            • Kim O’Brien

              oh please … agitation is a part of life ..and for SURE a part of this blog . If you are NOT agitated by these stories ..there is something wrong with YOU . You just keep on ” being mindful” and the agitators will just do all the work to make change around the world ( like women voting , the civil rights act , gay rights etc) We don’t want you break a sweat or anything

            • Vinay Agarwala

              One has a better chance for getting the proof for Shelly’s imprisonment when one can work with a cool head.

            • Kim O’Brien

              can’t scientologists leave their bodies ? they do it for parking spaces

            • Once_Born

              Mindfulness is part of Buddhist practice.

              So is the proposition that compassion is the best guide to right action. I have compassion for those who have been wronged by Scientology, and that compassion leads me to oppose it.

              Perhaps we should ask Vinay if he shares that compassion.

            • Grant C

              Yes, right action that comes from compassion is more likely to be efficacious.

            • Kim O’Brien

              he is not a Buddhist . I am a half Irish half Sicilian ex Catholic from Boston ….let’s just leave it there

            • 0tessa

              I prefer to have real emotions. When I think of Scientology Inc and all its abuses, yes, I can agitated sometimes, but that does not cloud my insight and understanding.
              Being peaceful all the time and having compassion with victims and perpetrators alike is not enough to fight the suppression.

        • Once_Born

          If I didn’t know better, I would think you were trying to subtly cast doubt on the highly likely proposition that Shelly has been ‘disappeared’ because she offended the {big being} by doing his job for him and/or he wanted rid of her in favour if his {communicator}.

          Why should you do that, I wonder?

          (1)That he has imprisoned his wife may be ‘an assumption’, but it is a very, very, likely one.
          (2) Miscavige isn’t a religious leader because Scientology plainly isn’t a religion. The sociologist Stephen A Kent characterises it as a transnational corporation which sounds nearer the mark to me. http://www.apologeticsindex.org/s04a13.html
          (3) Miscavige is a man but, by all accounts, neither a very nice man nor a particularly rational one.

          Don’t tell me… that’s an assumption.

          • RMycroft

            And then there’s Uwi Stuckenbrock, Laurisse Stuckenbrock’s husband, who was tossed into the RPF until he died of Multiple Sclerosis.

            Scientology Protesters Gain Fans, Give Tours in Times Square November 15, 2008, Candice M. Giove, Runnin’ Scared, Village Voice
            http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2008/11/scientology_pro_1.php
            https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/uwe-stuckenbrock-has-died-on-the-rpf-at-pac.25361/

            It’s good to be the Tiny Tyrant!

          • Vinay Agarwala

            How do you think a court of law will look at this situation? Will they accept hearsay and opinions?

            (1) Do you have proof that she is being imprisoned? Can you show that proof to the judge? “Very likely” is not good enough in a court of law or from the standards of mindfulness. “Very likely” simply means you should look at it more closely until you have the proof for the conjecture you are making.

            (2) Scientology is legally a religion. David Miscavige is the leader of this religious organization, The court would see him as a religious leader. Your opinion does not count as fact. Your opinion simply counts as an opinion in a court of law.

            (3) To be mindful is to keep opinions separate from what is. In this case the “what-is” that matters is how the court of law would see it.

            I would not ask that question “why” because that would simply lead to more opinions, when you are unable to see directly.

            • Where’s Shelly?

              What school did you get your law degree from?

            • Grant C

              He’s a nuclear physicist

            • Once_Born

              (1) This is not a court of law. We can make reasonable judgements without having to prove them, “beond a reasonable doubt”. Besides, a court of law can require evidence to be brought before it. We can’t. We have to try work out what is going on behind closed doors, in the same way that Soviet analysts used to try to understand the Soviet regime in order to predict what it was going to do next.

              (2a) Your opinion (which is, apparently that Scientology is a religion) is, by your own reasoning, also only an opinion.

              (2b) If a US court was not bound by the first amendment and could pass judgement according to the evidence I don’t doubt it would agree with Stephen Kent.

              (2c) Scientology is not legally a religion in the UK, nor in many other nations.

              (3) Are you suggesting that, by being mindful you can magicallysee the truth without having to think (and, inevitably, forming an opinion in the process)? That is not the sort of mindfulness that I am familiar with.

              I would ask the question “why”, because this leads you to examine the evidence, and come closer to the truth. We don’t have all the evidence regarding Scientology – then again, we don’t have all the evidence about anything – that’s part of the human condition. However, we have more than enough evidence to conclude that Scientology is malign nonsense.

              Finally, your scepticism seems to be a bit skewed. Shelley is imprisoned – you claim that’s an opinion despite the evidence. Scientology is a religion – you assert that to be fact, without evidence (merely because a US court has to treat it as one). Is anyone else beginning to see a pattern here?

            • Vinay Agarwala

              Once_Born, I am thankful to you that you are approaching this discussion systematically, and not just attacking me. As far as my opinions go, I don’t think they are very different from yours. But I am also pragmatic enough to know that my opinions are not going to lead to any immediate solution.

              I have known Scientology from both inside and outside.

              (1) Scientology is not a religion. It is simply mimicking the Catholic Church right to the point of amassing real estate around the world. I do not have a high opinion of the Catholic Church either. I know how its missionaries behaved in India. The Church of Scientology is probably just a mini version of the Roman Catholic Church with very similar goals.

              (2) Dianetics is not a science though in the beginning it pretended to be one. Hubbard never followed the scientific method precisely. He never cared for a peer review.

              (3) Dianetics and Scientology are not a therapy. They are like a shotgun method of applying a lot of different processes, where at least one might work with a person to serve as a bait. There is no long lasting therapeutic value in Dianetics or Scientology, the way it delivers it services..

              (4) Scientology is part of a much bigger problem. To solve Scientology that bigger problem needs to be solved.

              (5) The breakthrough against Scientology occurred primarily because of Internet. A parallel to this is happening in Arab countries. Internet is bringing about a sort of cultural awakening and a cultural introspection.

              (6) Legal and PR skirmishes are evening out somewhat but they are no where near giving a death blow to Scientology. Scientolgy is masterful in manipulating Legal and PR situations. It has quite a staying power.

              (7) Tony Ortega’s blog is an excellent PR effort to expose Scientology, and wisen people against it, but I don’t think it is enough in itself. However, I am glad that it is there.

              (8) I do not know the solution to Scientology except driving it out of business by actually delivering those products, which Scientology only pretended to deliver. There is a crying need for those products in the society.

              (9) The actual battle all along has been the battle over people’s mind. Scientology is only one of the many efforts.

              (10) I shiver to think of the whole scope of it. But I am optimistic.

              .

            • Once_Born

              Gosh… I agree with that… unreservedly. Perhaps we have been at cross purposes here.

              Something about myself… I have always been fascinated by fringe beliefs, which led me to a degree in sociology, My interest in Scientology was initially academic, driven by my initial failure to understand how decent, clever people could be taken in by an {applied religious philosophy} that was, on the face of it, so absurd.

              However, since I have participated in this forum, and seen the pain inflicted by the {church} on some of its participants it has become difficult to remain detached.

              I, too, am pragmatic enough to know that my opinions are not going to lead to any immediate solution, but no solution is ever going to come about until there is a widespread understanding of Scientology, and similar abusive organisations.

              Trying to understand the strange beast that is Scientology is the most constructive thing I can do at the moment – and I enjoy it. It is fascinating to talk to independents and exes – where else could I talk to people who casually drop lines like “I was on the Apollo with Hubbard” into the conversation?

              Finally, I am glad we have achieved a little harmony, you and I.

            • Vinay Agarwala

              Ha! I could recognize you as an academic person! :)

              You were thoughtful and restrained. Ha ha!

              .

            • Cher

              A kindred spirit! If you replaced Sociology with Holocaust Studies your post would fit me to the “t”. :)

            • sugarplumfairy

              Dude.. The co$ is probably just a mini version of the catholic church with similar goals? Seriously?

              Does the catholic church brainwash people? Charge ridiculous fees for services? Have prison camps for naughty parishioners? Hound and harass defectors? Disconnect families? Create lousy schools that teach nothing? Hire private investigators to follow people for 20 years? Recruit celebutards?

              Get a clue..

            • Vinay Agarwala

              If you condense the 2000 years of the Catholic Church into 60 years you will find it to be much worse than Scientology. How soon people forget!

              .

            • Herod

              Are you referring to the Spanish Inquisition? Because that is like Godwin’s Law when it comes to discussion of Scientology.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Possibly.. Maybe even probably.. But what about now? co$ is still actively doing its worst as a matter of policy.. The catholic church is not.

            • George Layton

              Do you seriously plan to go back into the past and change it? This is happening right here, right now. the CURRENT (happening right now) can be, and should be addressed. There are abuses happening AS WE SPEAK that can be stopped if enough attention is placed upon them. Do you still want to point out some past event that might divert that very necessary attention in some other direction?

            • 0tessa

              You are right. Just think of the Inquisition.

            • sister wendy

              there are a lot of differences between the catholic church and the world of Sci-bot

            • Robert Eckert

              Most non-Catholics would say that the Catholic church definitely does “brainwash”. It no longer charges ridiculous fees, but only because it has lost much of its power; dispensations to marry or get a marriage annulled, and indulgences for sins, used to cost a pretty penny. The Magdalene laundries are an example of prison camps they continued to run down to quite recent times. They can no longer hound and harass defectors as they would like, but do remember that they used to burn them alive. Excommunication did mean total disconnection when they had the power.

              We can acquit the Catholics of the last charges. Their schools have always been excellent, they run their own intelligence services without hiring outsiders, and have always considered themselves above “celebrities” from the acting or athletic fields.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Bite me..

            • Robert Eckert

              I’m not trying to pick a fight here. But when Vinay compares the current evils of Scientology to the past evils of Catholicism, it is not out of line. You were trying to act as if it were somehow absurd to make any comparison.

            • sugarplumfairy

              You just made the same argument I did but you gave more examples..

            • Robert Eckert

              The examples that you gave were almost all bad ones to choose, that’s all.

            • sugarplumfairy

              =) opinions are like…….

            • 0tessa

              Study of the history of the Roman Catholic Church, in Europe, will show you there are similarities for sure. I am just now reading a study about the rise of democracy, freedom of thinking and speech, and the role this church played for centuries to counteract it.

            • sugarplumfairy

              See Robert Eckert’s comment.. It’s much better than mine..

              The biggest difference is that one of these institutions has some redeeming social value, the other has none.. I’ll let you decide which since you’re determined to find fault with the catholic church.. I’ll just remind you that 3 million Catholics on Copacabana beach disagree with you.. Just sayin’..

            • sugarplumfairy

              The only thing the co$ has in common with the catholic church would be the huge and devout crowds that appearances by the church leader draws.. Or not.. But I bet miscavige has dreams like this..

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy6HH8GP874&feature=youtube_gdata_player

            • George Layton

              Ahhhh I see! So the real question is: Where is Dave Miscavige’s conscience?

            • Nevermore

              The Catholic church doesn’t send {parishioners} round to your house to hassle your friends and family when you leave. Nor does it set PIs on those who leave. If you leave, you leave – your family and friends aren’t told to cut you out of their lives. Hell, I can even go into my parents’ church and have a conversation with their priest, and he doesn’t ask me for money, or to come back ‘to the fold’. He doesn’t describe me as an apostate, though technically I am! If I was Church of England, or Church of Scotland, the same things would be true. $cientology might have tried to model some of its facets on the Church of Rome, but frankly, they lost the plot somewhere along the line, and became something much more controlling and sinister. And that’s the point at which they ceased to be a {religion}.

        • Kim O’Brien

          the rational thing to do would to NOT be a scientoogist …but hey …whaddayagonnado?

          • Where’s Shelly?

            I think Shelly was too jealous of Davey’s other love TC so she had to go.

      • sizzle8

        Within Scientology, it would be far more of a scandal to find out that Miscavige has been having an affair (gone out-2D) than if he had ordered his wife to the Hole or the RPF or just “over the rainbow”.

    • Anonymookme

      Oh Gawd! Look at him. He’s a eunuch!

    • Kim O’Brien

      really ?? you are more concerned about who he is fucking as opposed to anything else ?? That is pretty disturbing to tell you the truth . Sex is sex …get over it …

    • Once_Born

      You seem to be suggesting that:

      (1) Miscavige disappearing his wife is not an issue, but whether or not he’s cheating on her is? Lots of people cheat on partners. Not many make them disappear. It is an issue.
      (2) If Miscavige was not cheating on his wife, it would not have occurredto Leah to wonder where her friend had gone, or why she had become an ‘unperson’.

      This {point} is being overlooked because it’s spurious.

  • Billy Bob

    If David Miscavige does trot Shelly out for a one-night-stand celebrity dinner it will prove one thing for sure – David Miscavige is “at effect.”

    Like anonymous said back in 2008- “WE RUN THIS.”

  • dbloch7986

    The problem is that the prison is not the walls that surround Shelley. The prison is her own mind. That’s a much harder prison from which to free yourself. Admitting that you’re wrong is hard; it becomes doubly hard when you have to admit that you were wrong to yourself.

    • USA MRIID

      More so when one has handed all their money over to obvious criminals to purchase obvious frauds.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    I was just imagining what The Ideal Wife of David Miscavige must be thinking as she hears the news the Hubby is Coming Home! oh my

    http://youtu.be/DB5TOsS5EyI

    • sugarplumfairy

      I’m pretty sure Shelly’s reaction would be “Aaaaaaggggghhhh!!!”

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Open wide and say “Aaaaahhhh?” you’re right…wrong clilp

        http://youtu.be/Op0qrTGRcxk

        • sugarplumfairy

          No, the clip was great! I meant Shelly’s reaction when finding out her husband was on his way home to her would be “Aaagghh!”

          • Where’s Shelly?

            Aaaaaaggggghhhh!!!

    • Interested

      Hole can you do the same thing as above with the two YouTube videos I mention above. I’m afraid I’m not very good with that sot of thing. You would be a star!

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Domestic abuse doesn’t exist in Miscavige’s world. Miscavige et al had no clue how bizarre their actions were when they submitted dozens of affidavits swearing that Rathbun, Rinder, etc., beat up people, not Miscavige. It never occurred to them that workplace violence is illegal and no sane employer admitted that a culture of violence existed in his business, no matter who did the beating. The same issue exists vis a vis Shelley. No sane “eclesiastical leader” allows his wife to remain “disappeared” for years while the issue of where she is and whether she is alive and well goes viral. No sane adult would believe that the issue would go away because Miscavige’s lawyer issued a statement, or because Leah Remini is subjected to sec checking, or because Shelley is “present” under guard at a dinner. This is not North Korea or China. Miscavige is not Henry VIII, he has no right to lock his wife away and think it’s ok because he hasn’t killed her. It is beyond bizarre that members of the church are not demanding to hear from her directly. If Miscavige had killed her, these same members still would not ask questions. It’s time for the adults in the church to free Shelley, and every other victim of Miscavige. Their church is disintegrating. They can watch that, and watch the country’s shock and horror as Miscavige’s crimes come to light, and watch as the Church of Scientology’s legacy becomes only shameful abuse, horror stories and malicious willful fraud. Or they can topple Miscavige, free the imprisoned, have the church pay for whatever medical care members need to get healthy again, and they can allow independent CPAs to review the books to determine where donations have gone. Inaction is not an option.

    • billLW

      Yeah, that’s what was so funny about the Anderson Cooper “history of violence” segments. It basically came down to a “he said/she said” argument, but the church didn’t seem to understand that BOTH versions of the story made them look horrible.

      • Kim O’Brien

        i loved it when Anderson asked ” if all this was going on ..don’t you guys have phones ? or a fax machine ?” ….awesome

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          Yes, it’s just like the people who come here from overseas and have servants that they treat worse than a dog. They just don’t know any better. This is “The most ethical religion on the planet” or whatever their tagline is.

    • AnyOldName1

      “had no clue how bizarre their actions were when they submitted dozens of affidavits swearing that Rathbun, Rinder, etc., beat up people”

      Bizarre barely touches it. I could not believe they actually produced witnesses to make those claims. Doesn’t Miscavige realize he is ultimately responsible for the violence no matter who commits it? It’s called “Hostile Work Environment”.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        If it were “hostile work environment” only, he could argue (believe it or not) that the ministerial exception exempts them from standard employee discrimination/harassment/hostile work place allegations (i.e., discrimination based on socio-economic factors, or harassment). As far as I know, the ministerial exception doesn’t give a religious employer the right to beat up employees or allow other employees to beat up employees. It would be interesting to watch Miscavige try to explain that the Hubbard theology encompasses physical beatings, against someone’s will (the same argument he used to rationalize no pay, starvation, etc.).

    • USA MRIID

      “This is not North Korea or China.”

      You have never been to a Republican State. :) But you make a good point here, if the insane crook trotts her out and lets people see her from a distance, that won’t be good enough for the crook’s remaining customers, and not nearly enough for the law enforcement officers who would like to know what’s happening to her despite no formal, legitmate missing persons complaint.

  • nottrue

    maybe shelly has found a real man up there in the mountains and is in love and happy.

    • Missionary Kid

      I really doubt it. DM is too much of a control freak. He’d probably make anyone who gets close to her disappear somewhere else.

      • nottrue

        i know just wishful thinking

  • Ruby Grapefruit

    “She’ll have Lou (Miscavige’s personal “communicator” Laurisse ‘Lou’ Stuckenbrock) and someone else flanking her to keep people away.” DM sure likes his sloppy seconds.

  • Studious Judious

    Something for Dave…

  • Jefferson Hawkins

    In terms of producing Shelly, I think the negatives outweigh the positives for Miscavige. The only positive is that “Karin Pouw” will be able to answer the “Where’s Shelly” question with some dox: “Of course she’s
    free to travel and do anything she wants – didn’t you see the pictures from the Celebrity Centre gala?”

    The downsides are many. In the first place, no one inside the Church is asking “Where’s Shelly?” (Or if they do, they are soon out of the Church and disconnected). People inside the Church are used to people disappearing and not asking questions about it. When someone becomes a Scientology “non-person” they just disappear and you don’t ask about it.

    Suddenly producing Shelly would raise the question “Where has Shelly been?” And if she appeared at a public event, that would be the first question people would ask. So she would have to be isolated from any inquiring public and monitored very closely. And that might raise alarm bells, even among the faithful. But that question would be in their minds even if they didn’t ask it.

    Her physical appearance might be a concern – she is likely thinner than she was (and she was always thin), and has aged. Her appearance itself might trigger concern and questions.

    And last but not least, it would put Miscavige “at effect” – reacting to Leah Ramini and the media coverage. His ego would likely not allow that. His nature would be just to insist on his rightness and carry on doing what he is doing, and declare anyone who says differently.

    But the “Where’s Shelly?” question will never go away. Because ultimately it’s not just about Shelly – it’s also “Where’s Heber?” Or ‘Where’s Guillaume?” Or Ray Mithoff, or Marc Yager, Or Diana Hubbard. Or any of the hundreds of other people who have simply disappeared, without explanation, from the world of Scientology.

    • Truthiwant

      Because the followers of Scientology believe in Xenu and also believe that Ron Hubbard is clearing Target Two at the moment, then why can’t Miscavige use the space opera story and just say that Shelly was on a six year sabbatical visiting Ron on the other side of the galaxy and was helping him out with the next OT levels.
      Surely the great and spiritually advanced Scientologists would believe a story like that. No?

    • Poison Ivy

      Jeff, do you agree with Marty, that she is “happy as a clam” and could’ve left years ago?

      • Jefferson Hawkins

        Compared to the Int Base, it’s probably heaven – not much stress and being out in the forest. That said, she is likely under severe restrictions and I can’t imagine “happy” describing her state of mind. It’s probably more like “grin and bear it for the group.” The personnel at the CST facility know that they would be sent to the RPF’s RPF forever if they ever let her escape so I imagine she is closely watched.

        The full phrase, of course, is “happy as a clam at high tide” and I don’t think she conceives of her position as “high tide.”

        • MissCandle

          Thanks for your informative posts here, Jefferson Hawkins. More questions: Does she eat rice and beans? Can she go to the grocery store? Is she treated like COB II ? — meaning a chef, housekeeper, scotch?

    • sister wendy

      thanks for that astute observation…hey wait?! I bet you were involved with Scientology at one time to know so much;) (laughing to myself now;)

  • media_lush

    thins strange thing popped up in google alerts…. I don’t understand what it’s about as it isn’t referenced in the actual story…. anybody have an idea?

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/cameronkeng/2013/08/05/bouncing-back-from-bankruptcy-losing-my-home/

    • stillgrace

      It looks like an article about how to recover from bankruptcy or losing your home. Did it pop up on the scientology feeds? Because that would be damn funny.

      edit: but not really, if you know what I mean.

      • Robert Eckert

        It has “Seal of the United States bankruptcy court. Church of Scientology attorney Steven Hayes bought rights to the Cult Awareness Network assets during its bankruptcy proceedings. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)” as the caption to a picture of the court seal. Why does it throw that line in there, when the story is about something else entirely? It is odd.

        On another topic: Lush, downthread somewhere somebody asked what happened to Tom Cruise’s lawsuit against some tabloids for saying he has stopped seeing Suri, and I think I remember you saying that suit had been abandoned or made to go away?

        • stillgrace

          You are right. The caption under the seal is strange within the context of the article.

          The last I heard about the Cruise tabloid suit, it had gone into mediation (normal), however, neither side holds out hope for settlement. The trial date is late April 2014. media_lush, have you heard any more?

        • media_lush

          yeah, I saw it and made a comment…. from what I recall they were quite happy to defend their accusations that he “abandoned” his daughter and called Bert Field’s bluff. What is interesting to me is that there have been various stories that Cruise beat up some of his [Sea Org] staff and not a peep from his lawyers. I think it’s long overdue for the media to bring this story up again as, to all intents and purposes, it DOES actually look like he has abandoned Suri.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    We in RTC don’t understand you stupid wogs.

    You blather on and on and on about how Mr. David Miscavige is a sadistic monster.

    Then, with sinister accusative tones in your voice, you ask where Mrs. Shelly Miscavige is — and this while spinning all kinds of tall tales that COB must have imprisoned her in King Tut’s tomb because he is a monster.

    Yet if Mr. Miscavige is a such a monster then wouldn’t it stand to reason that Shelly would, or her own volition, want to live elsewhere? And wouldn’t she have divorced such as monster as the law allows?

    Alternately, even poetically, the answer you wogs don’t want to hear is the correct one: Dave and Shelly are happily married. Shelly is a very private person who doesn’t like the intense media spotlight in which her husband is continually immersed due to his status as the single most important ecclesiastical leader on the planet.

    Then again, the facts are far more prosaic than all of your rabid wog lunatic conspiracy theories. COB RTC David Miscavige gallantly protects his wife from the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune to which he is daily subjected in the Psych media. COB does not allow his wife to read all of the entheta online. He does not require her to work in an executive position that, if COB is to be fair, might require him to RPF her if she screwed up as is her wont.

    Shelly is a delicate little flower and her husband, a man who is the priest confessor and confidante to world leaders, celebrities, and dozens of lesser religious leaders such as Pope Francis of the Vatican State, treats her as such by assigning her to a very non-enturbulative post that contributes, in its own way, to Planetary Clearing,

    While it is politically incorrect to say so in today Psych-drug-addled world, the plain and simple fact is that women need to know their place. Shelly does and so she does what her husband tells her. This is why she is very happy on post. Shelly will make an appearance at the Celebrity Centre only if her husband tells her to do so. She will also wear whatever gown and shoes her husband selects for her. COB will allow her to carry a clutch containing lipstick and a small .38 caliber pistol to fend off any wog reporter who breaches the formidable CCI security barricades.

    • i-Betty

      “Shelly is a very private person who doesn’t like the intense media spotlight in which her husband is continually immersed due to his status as the single most important ecclesiastical leader on the planet.”

      Hur hur :P

  • Richie

    This is all well and good, but I’m still hoping Remini blows the lid in a more profound and direct way. I hope she sees it as her responsibility to expose the cult’s abuses. On a highly unrelated and irrelevant note, Shelly Miscavige is a very beautiful woman.

    • Jeb Burton

      Leah is going to blow the lid, for a few million bucks. She is going to get a huge up front payment for her book. She will not give us anything, but a few snippets until her book is out. I am losing respect fast for Leah. But she is a scientolgist and we know what they worship, money. As far as Shelly goes, why does Cruella Deville come to mind? Look at her pictures. She may have been abused by DM, but it sounds as she is a true believer in the nonsense of LRH. And as Marty says, it sounds like she has it good in the super secret base. At least she doesnt have to be around DM, and im sure she is getting what she needs from some young scientology stud. After proof reading my post, Im a cynical son of a bitch. But I dont feel sorry for either one of these so called victims.

      • TonyOrtega

        You’ll notice that the Underground Bunker has not breathlessly repeated Us Weekly’s news about an impending book as everyone else has. If it were true, we’d tell you. In fact, we’re told Us mangled something she said — and someone might be suspicious that they didn’t report that utterance with the others they reported the week before (which were from the same public event.) Anyway, our sources are very good, and if you had any idea what Leah is really up to, you might not be so quick to judge.

        • ze moo

          The ‘Leah Remini is writing a tell all book’ has been on a great many gossip and tabloid sites. It’s a very big step to go from disconnected to in the cross-hairs target of fair game. There is no public utterance that Leah is writing a book about her experiences. I think many gossips are just harboring a wish and trying to get more mileage out the story.

          • Robert Eckert

            It has been on a great many sites but if you look at sourcing, every one of the stories traces back to that dubious “Us Weekly” report, which had her saying something a little different than the earlier People magazine description of her rather brief remarks at the shindig. It has been my impression all along that Leah knows her career would be better served by demonstrating that she can stay above it all and not get dragged into a fight no matter how she is attacked. Hollywood doesn’t care who’s right or wrong when off-screen drama erupts: they prefer to hire stars who don’t get into off-screen dramas, period.

            • Phil McKraken

              All true. Leah Remini’s career is wrapped up in her public persona. She doesn’t want to be associated with a religious spat, especially the one that has Tom Cruise’s stink on it (given the bad reputation he has for couch jumping and glib-baiting). The best thing for her is to star on a hit show, and be known for mainly that.

              If you wrestle with a pig, you get dirty … and the pig likes it. I say no book from Leah.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Chinese Whispers all the way for them, isn’t it……

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Until I see a video or a post here of Leah revealing that she is planning a book, I won’t believe it. Tony will always provide cold hard facts, and tell you otherwise is something is merely speculation.

            And why would you trust Us Weekly for information about, well, anything, really? Or any other rag like that?

        • Jeb Burton

          There are a number of stories at Scientology Bollocks that say that Leah is going to write a book and the sky is the limit from publishers for her story. Yeah, Im quick to judge. Are all these stories bullshit? Its not like you Tony to talk in code. What Utterance are you talking about? It is not just one source on her impending book deal, it appears to be many. I am not going to think Leah is some kind of saint because she left Scientology. It appears she is going to bank major bucks with her story. Which is fine. But dont try to tell me it is moral. The only thing I know she is up to, as you say, Is to make millions on a book. Tell me why I am wrong.

          • coonellie

            Jeb, no one is saying Leah Remini is, “some kind of a saint,” for leaving Scientology. She is, though, awfully smart in how she has been able to leave with her family intact, by staying above the fray, remaining “real” and not slinging mud. She is giving an example to the many clam celebrities that are watching and waiting to see how it’s done in this hour of COS discontent.

            This is not a black or white situation. This is not about assigning Leah’s personal motivations, because who are you to know? You have absolutely no idea what she’s up to so don’t pretend you do. That’s not only unkind, it’s unwarranted.

            And, who are you to question how Tony talks? He has a great many confidences he must keep in order to maintain his sources. That’s a part of his job. Just because he has this blog does not mean he has to tell us everything…or anything. He owes us nothing except to maintain his journalistic integrity and report the news.

            Try channelling some of that aggression into something productive, it might help you feel better.

            • Jeb Burton

              I love and respect Tony. But I would like to know what the utterance he is talking about is. But all the worship of Leah is starting to get to me.Is she a great person? I dont know her at all. From what i’ve read, she has made it appear that she is hardly saying anything about her experience with the cult, and seems to be waiting for a book deal to tell her side of the story. It just seems kind of sleazy for her to cash in on her experience. How long does it take to pen a book? 6 months? Shorter? longer? If she sits down with Tony and tells all, it would definitely change my opinion of her. I have no aggression, just telling it as I see it.

            • TonyOrtega

              If you’ve actually been paying attention to what we cover here, Jeb, you would know there are many more reasons for someone fresh out of the CoS to refrain from speaking to the press other than waiting for a fat book contract. Please stop trying to convince us that you are disappointed with Leah Remini or that you are “losing” respect for her. It’s pretty obvious that you had none to begin with. Which is fine, but please stop acting like she ever had a chance to fulfill whatever agenda you seem to have.

            • Jeb Burton

              I get that Tony. Most people wait to speak out because they have close family members in the cult. But from what I read, that doesn’t seem to be the case here She seems to be speaking to the press in snippets. I would like to see an in depth interview. Thats all. I have no agenda with Leah, It just appears what it is. She isnt speaking and has a book deal pending, citing multiple sources, isnt the journalists creed 2 sources? It would seem that you and other people here have a problem with me being cynical about her true agenda.

            • TonyOrtega

              OK, Jeb, but each of your “seems” is just flat out wrong. It doesn’t “seem” to you that there’s anyone left in the church for her to worry about. Well, that may be your guess, but your guess is completely wrong. You would like to see a full interview. Me too! But why is she supposed to be on your schedule? All I can say, Jeb, is that your guesses are very poor, and that based on our track record here at the Bunker, you might rely on us for more solid news than the crud that is getting shoveled by a lot of “news organizations” that are just rewriting what other just as unreliable websites have said. You want to know why Karen DLC wasn’t on GMA this morning? Because they only went out there to interview her to get her to say that Leah is working on a book and how explosive it is. But like me, Karen has good sources and knows that the book story is premature. So she didn’t say that. She spoke about what’s actually going on. So ABC didn’t use her. It had an agenda. A dumb agenda based on a misquote by Us Weekly. That’s what’s going on. And what’s going to happen in the future is going to be a bumpy ride of wild entheta. So how about sitting back, buckling your seat belts, and enjoying the ride here at the Bunker, where we have everyone beat?

            • Jeb Burton

              Ok. You beat me up. I got cynical when I read at least 10 different stories on a pending book deal. And your right. You have everyone beat. I must say its been fun getting my ass handed to me by you personally. I tried, but couldnt stand up to the onslaught of facts. I hate it when that happens. Ill sit back and sees what happens. But forever cynical about all these scientolgists, indie, ex or practicing.

            • TonyOrtega

              Well, I don’t mean to be a noodge. Tomorrow morning we have a very, very fun story that should clean the palate. So come on back for the wild times.

            • N. Graham

              Typical ABC.

          • TonyOrtega

            My information is that Us Weekly (probably knowingly) mangled what she said to make it look like she’s already planning a book. The truth is she has more immediate concerns and is not considering a book yet, even though she’s had numerous offers. That may change and she may eventually decide to write a book, at which time she would be paid what the book is worth. Arguing over whether that is a “moral” decision is such a complete waste of time I’m not going to argue it. But here’s an r-factor for you, Jeb. Any company that pays millions for a book like that will then exert enormous energy to recoup its investment by getting copies of that book into every corner of the earth, and have it promoted on as many television shows and news sites as humanly possible. Now, please explain to us why that would be a bad thing.

            • Jeb Burton

              Im not saying it is a bad thing. Go for it at market price.Make tens of millions on your book. But in my opinion, if she does not tell her story because she is waiting on a big book deal, It appears the telling of her story is not a moral decision, but a financial one, There would great demand for her book either way.

            • Robert Eckert

              You are not listening. There is no evidence whatsoever that she is pursuing a book deal except one mangled quote that is being repeated all over without foundation. Nobody has heard from any publisher or any confirmation from Leah or from anyone close to Leah. And you are going on repeated tirades about something that is probably not happening at all.

            • Grant C

              Or perhaps she is waiting for the right publisher and ghost writer to align themselves, so her message will be clearly told and the book will be most widely read.

              No need to be so negative about it.

            • Nevermore

              You don’t know that she’s just waiting on a big book deal. She probably has a lot of stuff to sort out at the moment. You seem to be unhappy that she apparently doesn’t share your own moral imperative to get a book written and published – that’s a bit unfair. She has her own morals to live by, they just possibly might not be the same as yours?

            • George Layton

              If it’s not written down it isn’t true. And sometimes not even then. Well maybe oft times with hubbard.

          • Robert Eckert

            ” It is not just one source on her impending book deal, it appears to be many.” The appearance is deceiving. Leah made only one outing, and talked to a People reporter on the record, during which she said nothing about a book. None of the further stories start out with “our reporter Ms. Soandso spoke with Leah…” but rather are all quoting back to the Us Weekly story, which talks about things Leah said at that outing, but doesn’t say who Leah is supposed to have said them to– the impression is that their version is hearsay from something overheard, perhaps not very accurately; the further exaggeration by “Enty” that our Tony will be ghost-writing her book is clearly a gross misunderstanding (Tony is of course writing a book, but not with Leah).

            • MissCandle

              Besides, I relish the thought that Shortie has to worry that Leah will write a book, whether or not she wants to, plans to, or will ever do so. I hope it makes him sweat.

        • Mrs Libnish

          No “judgy” coming from me…waiting with baited breathe……

          I’m sure whatever it is, will be explosive and swift.

        • Whoknew

          Thanks for that teaser, Tony. Makes me hopeful something good is happening. Or if she’s just devastated and needing to heal, that is totally understandable and I wish her success and support.

        • Where’s Shelly?

          Now ABC is reporting about Leah’s book. Guess they finally grew some, too bad they don’t use the footage they have already that they shot last year. I guess celebrity rumors are better than actual factual reporting.

  • Jvm3

    Do you guys remove pro-Scientology posts? Do active scientologists ever post here or is it simply trolls? I wanted to hear more from that ot8 guy. He was funny

    • Robert Eckert

      A couple years ago when Tony was still at Village Voice, there used to be a lot of Scientology defenders. Nowadays, however, we only get occasional posts by Indie Scientologists, and once in a while a troll pretending to be a clam. OTVIIIisGrrr8! is a well-respected satirist who has been with us for some time.

      Posts are hardly ever removed from here: baseless obscene accusations have been taken down, but things don’t usually get un-civil here (testy, yes, but generally self-correcting). I don’t believe Tony has used the ban-hammer even once.

      • Jvm3

        Oh alright. I doubted I’d find active members on this site, but that post looked pretty legit. Good stuff. Thanks for the reply

        • Grant C

          You definitely won’t find active corporate members in good standing here. But there are a number of indies, and also freezoners (probably more of the latter).

        • tetloj

          http://otviiiisgrrr8.com

          He/she has a blog.

    • i-Betty

      OT8 (OTVIIIisgr8) is a brilliant, brilliant satirist. He starts many of his posts “We at RTC…” and if he’s particularly cross he will scold, “No, Jvm3, No!”

      He makes me cry with laughter sometimes, and he never, EVER breaks character. He’s ace. :D

    • BananaSplits8

      You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it’s me, I’m a
      little fucked up maybe, but ot8 is funny how, I mean funny like he’s a
      clown, he amuses you? He makes you laugh, He’s here to fuckin’ amuse you?
      What do you mean funny, funny how? How is he funny?

      (In case it wasn’t obvious, that ^ was SATIRE using a Goodfellas movie quote)

      • Jvm3

        Lol, yes. Excellent Pesci reference.

      • Robert Eckert
        • Captain Howdy
          • Robert Eckert

            I see you’ve brought the “History of Man” cover back.

            • Captain Howdy

              Anything for a cheap vote. Actually, it’s “The Creation of Human Ability” cover.

            • Robert Eckert

              That’s right. “History of Man” cover was the Piltdown guy?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Yippee!

            • Grant C

              I don’t know why I find that picture so creepy. Perhaps it creeps me out because someone was depraved enough to choose it as a cover for a “holy book.”

            • Captain Howdy

              I find it very surreal and reminiscent of the works of David Lynch, Marc Chagall, Otto Dix.

            • Grant C

              Very surreal indeed. And ecclesiastical.

            • WhereIsSHE

              I much prefer the GENERIC FLIPPER dead fish, but I know I’m way, way, way outvoted on that note here.

              That’s OK, though.

              No tears wasted… no sorrow, no pity…
              NO!, No Crying, No Loss!

            • Captain Howdy

              Hey, you’re from Philly, you know of these guys?

              http://youtu.be/CHP9kV9tPhg

            • WhereIsSHE

              missed out on them… was too busy working and helping to raise teenagers (who did NOT share my musical tastes, which i can only attribute to a lack of shared DNA;)
              in fact… they weren’t really into music much at all, despite a huge collection for them to sample here at Casa Mi-mosa es Su-mosa
              I was stuck in step-mom soccer HELL for years=(((

              Thanks for the linky though.
              Wish I could have been at that show where they mocked Negative Approach at Southpaw.

    • Kim O’Brien

      we would love for more scientologists to post here ..but there are more Jedi’s in the world …and for some reason ..they have a better internet connection ;)

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Jedi “tech” is far cooler than anything the Sciloontologists could ever come up with. (Lightsabers, people, lightsabers!!!)

        And we’re allowed to look at the Net without it being censored by our “religion” Oh, and we are allowed to talk openly with other Jedi about what we think of our Masters without fear of being sent to the spice mines of Kessell (The Hole)

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    While we’re waiting to read Tell All books, and who shows up at Galas and Tents…

    http://i39.tinypic.com/2nb6mup.jpg

    • Sidney18511

      AMAZING!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        tks, but not the right one. I’ll try one last time.

        http://i40.tinypic.com/1zd9jz5.jpg

        • i-Betty

          I would literally bite your hand off to buy a real version of either!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Any merchandisers here? I need both my hands. I wanna play too! So damn hard to keep up…handy dandy way for me.

        • Observer

          Excellent!

        • Sidney18511

          AMAZING-ER!

  • i-Betty

    Dear all, a Sciloon has DARED to show up at my Independent!! I was too tired to write a decent response, but I’d appreciate it if those of you who are at the opposite end of the day to me would put the point across a little better.

    The direct link to the article is: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/king-of-queens-star-leah-remini-plans-to-write-tellall-scientology-memoir-8747289.html

    But if you prefer to Google it, you want The Independent Newspaper ( http://www.independent.co.uk/ ), and the Leah Remini story is near the top of the main page.

    Thanks, loves :)

    • i-Betty

      Thanks so much, everyone. Within 5 mins you’d turned his arrows red! I’ve added a few extra bits to my comment so it makes a bit more sense to those who know nothing about Co$.

      Thanks again. You all rock :) xxxxxxxxxxx

    • i-Betty

      Bedtime for me, but I really thank you all one last time :) I’ve been watching names I love and respect from the Bunker popping up at the Independent (it’s surreal to see you over there!) in the last half hour with their wise words and I feel really supported.

      Love to you all, and sweet dreams :) xxx

      • Missionary Kid

        Sweet dreams to you, too i-Betty. It’s 10 pm there, for everyone else.

        • Mark

          11 pm (British Summer Time – hour ahead of GMT). Oooh, I’m knackered!

          • Missionary Kid

            Thanks. I have the second screen on my watch set for GMT, and I didn’t realize you had British Summer Time.
            Edit: When I was in Britain, it was in the late fall.

            • Mark

              I just wish our idiotic politicians didn’t keep everyone guessing until the last possible moment about when the clocks go forward and back… (yawn).

            • Missionary Kid

              Here in the US, they extended daylight savings too long, IMO.

            • Nevermore

              I hate Summer Time – it takes me until the clocks change back to get used to it!

      • sister wendy

        that was fun:)

  • media_lush

    I think the standard approach when approaching a scientologist outside an org is to go up to them and offer them your little finger whilst saying “quick, pull it – I need to release some thetans”

    Thetan

    1. Imaginary being trapped in fart gas

    2. see ‘dingleberry’ http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dingleberry

  • Observer

    I know I just did this with Karin Pouw, but it’s even more apropos now.

    • i-Betty

      That is scarily good! Did it take much effort to deaden Shelly’s eyes, to make her less human, and more puppet-like? Oh, wait…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Love it, except she’s almost smiling. Only COB’s are approved for that sort of thing.

      • Observer

        It’s okay–it’s fake. She’s been forced into Happy Mrs COB valence by her {loving husband}.

        • GlibWog

          Lovin it.. hahahahha Both women fit.. Yep and come to think of it all of COS ( except those in the hole of course)

    • Kim O’Brien

      ” get this guy away from me …he has his hand up my ass “

      • WhereIsSHE

        Too good, Kim!!!

    • Captain Howdy

      How can you tell when a scientologist is lying?

      David Miscavige’s lips aren’t moving.

    • USA MRIID

      Pull her string and she’ll say in a deadpan monotone, “I’m so happy. I’m so happy. I’m so happy.”

    • George Layton

      But she was granted one more start, the convent of the Sacred Heart.

  • Sunny Sands

    Clearwater circus tent watchers, here is an update from Rinder’s blog, which quotes Mike Smith:
    “The size of that famous tent can be understood better by the fact that it is being shipped in 6 – 40ft sea containers on their way to Miami across the Atlantic. And that it will take 4 weeks to assemble it using a team being sent from England.”

    • Observer

      Holy crap!

      • Missionary Kid

        I think it’s possible that it’s got a floor, a stage, and a lot of interior crap like seats that aren’t folding chairs, a bar, special podium, video equipment, lights, etc. I don’t think the tent is that large to warrant that many containers.

        I’ll bet the crew is a bunch of sea org people who’ll assemble it, then be around to inflate the crowd.

    • Kim O’Brien

      oh no….a joke against the English ~”how many Limey’s does it take to assemble a tent “?

    • Mark

      It’s Krusty’s evening gown (with the special reinforcing girders).

    • media_lush

      4 weeks? …. full size travelling circuses only take a couple of days…. I think when they say “crew” they mean OT’s level III and above…. or trained monkeys

      • Observer

        Maybe it will take four weeks for the OTVIIIs to postulate the tent up. They could have put it up in 10 minutes if Davey hadn’t declared so many.

      • RMycroft

        Sea Org Monkeys, like from the back of the old comic books.

  • Larry Moore

    Call me a J&D’er but, I swear, I do not put it past David Miscaviage to call a special worldwide Scientology event to announce that……(drum roll)……Shelly Miscaviage, just this very morning, willingly and intentionally dropped her body to do further work for the Church of Scientology, unimpeded by her physical body.

    Miscaviage continues: according to my beloved wife’s wishes her body was cremated just this very afternoon and her ashes scattered over the ocean she so loved (just about 25 minutes ago).

    End of story….now back to work everybody….END OF STORY. (just like with L. Ron Hubbard).

    Tell me, how would that not put an end to the story (legally)? It would. Period. A Dr. signed off on the death. Shelly’s will stated explicitly she wanted to be cremated and wanted no autopsy. Where’s the body? Why it’s in the ocean you silly you!

    …just sayin….

  • John

    I feel like David Miscavage broke a computer or punched someone when he saw this post.

    His crafty plan he thought was private and would alleviate maybe a bit of his worries have now been revealed and shown for what they really are. He can’t win, but that’s his fault.

  • Larry Moore

    And…..of course….if David does use the old Hubbard twist….’Shelly dropped her body on purpose, demanded no autopsy on her body and wanted her ashes spread in the ocean”….he will likely include something like (to his audience) ” let me remind you, you being the only hope mankind has, that the last thing Shelly said to me, just last night, was the reason she decided she was going to drop her body was the media frenzy about her whereabouts. That’s what drove her to do what she did! So lets cut all communication with the media got it? (the crowd cheers wildly, throwing their cells phones onto the stage or stomping on them crushing them to pieces).

    I cannot tell the future but I am uncomfortably certain Miscaviage is insane enough to do just such a thing. And lets face it folks, it worked perfectly with L. Ron Hubbard himself. The night before he died he wrote a ‘new’ will (cough). A Scientologist doctor signed off on the death (cough). No autopsy, immediate cremation (cough). Viola. No messy aftermath. Not counting the Vistaril in his blood thing.

    We are engaged with a psychopathic entity here.

  • media_lush

    Funnily enough we were talking about this earlier:

    “A tentative trial date has been set in Tom Cruise’s $50-million defamation lawsuit against Bauer Publishing Company, the publisher of Life & Style and In Touch magazine, for suggesting he abandoned his daughter, Suri. Barring settlement or delays, the case would reach a jury’s ears on June 10, 2014. The parties expect a five-day trial. Cruise sued in October, and in a February report, his legal team said discovery would be taken regarding “Bauer’s history of bigotry and hatred toward minority religious groups and their members.” The case was ordered to a nonbinding private settlement conference in March, but the parties aren’t expecting to hash out a deal. Cruise’s lawyer told THR that “Tom is going to want to push this one all the way.”

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/hollywood-docket-superhero-jewelry-tom-599581

    • Phil McKraken

      “… ‘Bauer’s history of bigotry hatred toward minority religious groups and their members.’”

      I have to wonder if Cruise’s lawyers are actually going to pursue this line of argument. The rebuttal could go in a number of interesting directions.

    • Robert Eckert

      Please proceed, governor… Somehow I’d gotten the impression that Cruise had dropped that thing.

    • Aslansown

      I was the one that brought it up earlier so it’s really interesting to read that. Not sure he’ll want everything out there in public.

      The HuffPo article that I linked to earlier, said:

      ” lawyers for Bauer are requesting a laundry list of information about Cruise’s relationship with his daughter.

      Bauer’s lawyers have requested a complete rundown of Cruise’s schedule; the extent to which he was in contact with Suri after his separation and divorce from Holmes; the expectations for Cruise’s contact and visitation schedule with Suri and the terms of the divorce agreement; his history of separation from Suri since her birth; Suri Cruise’s mental and emotional state following her parents’ separation and divorce.

      Lawyers have also requested information about the role Cruise’s membership in the Church of Scientology may have played in his decisions regarding his visitation and communication with Suri, as well as the history of all the lawsuits the actor has filed over the years.”

    • George Layton

      Yeah, she may be his daughter now, but she was someone completely different in the last Thetancarnation! {Well that’s the argument they are going with.}

  • Sidney18511

    Maybe the COBster will have the Mrs. Show up via preshot video. A screen will come down and Shelly will tell everyone that she is doing GREAT and serious work for the COS. possibility?

  • media_lush
    • Observer

      Man, Priscilla used to be so beautiful …

      • Artoo45

        Are you kidding? She had her face upholstered!

    • Ruby

      There’s no such thing as disconnection? Wake up, Ladies!!!!

    • Observer

      Could you imagine how tedious a Scientologist book club would be? Between all the LRH quotes they’d bandy about to impress each other, looking up a constant stream of MUs, and the forced theta they’d be flowing at each other to cover up the fact that they’re all writing surreptitious KRs on each other … gadzooks!

      • sugarplumfairy

        I imagine it would be something like this, only about a really stupid book..

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCpkNnxUxPk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

        • Captain Howdy

          Of course no one lays even a fake hand on Queen Oprah.

          Oprah vs. Rosie..I’d pay to see that.

          • sugarplumfairy

            You know you lovvvvvvve her..

            • Captain Howdy

              A 4 way cage match with Oprah, Rosie, Kirstie and Rosanne..RAAAAAAW!

            • sugarplumfairy

              Lol.. I’d pay big bucks NOT to see that..

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Ditto!

            • Captain Howdy

              You’re both full of prunes.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Great Confront! Shattering it Portland style!

            • Nevermore

              Kirstie would just eat all the others, Then the cage!

    • Andrew Robertson

      I wonder if OTVIIIisGrrr8! is moonlighting as Senior Editor, Scientology Division, on this very entertaining web site?

      Andrew

      • Captain Howdy

        It’s a keeper.

    • KJP in Portland

      Kelly Preston; literate?

    • RMycroft

      Okay, let’s see if I’ve got this straight. One person, who’s a former member because she quit Cruise and Scientology is claimed to not like someone else who’s also a former member–but not because she quit Scientology.

      Yep, that makes perfect sense. On Mars!

    • George Layton

      Bright side is, now she can read books by other authors.

  • Dean Fox

    No-one here expected Shelly Miscavige to blow, she’s too tied to the bed she made. We do however expect her to show up at some point to demonstrate just how much we are “at cause” over David Miscavige. Either way Shelly is minor beans in the scheme of things, a very tiny cog in the machine working to render the church of scientology impotent ultimately resulting in its demise in its current form as per the promise of the original Anonymous message to the church of scientology.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    David Miscavige to be quoted in the media soon: “I never had a first wife”.

  • AKlein

    Being fairly new to this stuff, I just ran into the Uwe Stuckenbrock story a couple of weeks ago. I have a new appreciation for the evil of DM and the cult. Yep, it’s always worst than you think.

  • USA MRIID

    Wow, do you think that David can get makeup and rework her face to remove signs of bruises and malnutrition? Maybe the insane crook will parade her from a long distance and make sure that the cameras can’t get a good look at her.

  • sugarplumfairy

    I just got to see one of my cousins this weekend for the first time since Christmas.. She works in LA for a production company that is doing a pilot for a new show that was written expressly for Leah Remini by one of the writers of her last show, Family Tools.. She says everybody she’s met on the show who has worked with Leah loves her.. Very recently, like the past month, Leah declined the role and Jaime Pressly is probably doing it now and everybody is really disappointed not to be working with Leah again.. I told her it was pobably all this leaving scientology stuff that made her change her mind.. My couin was vaguely aware that Leah had left, but she had no idea of the details..

    In a really weird coincidence, right before she took the job on this show, my cousin got offered a temp job until this new show started.. As Kirstie Alley’s assistant on Kirstie’s new show.. I freaked out when she told me and i was soooo distraught that she didn’t take it.. She said she was warned off it by everybody she knew who had worked with Kirstie before.. plus the salary wasn’t tempting.. I spent part of yesterday showing her Tony’s stories for the past few weeks, including Kirstie’s tweets.. Again, she had no idea.. I also warned her about all the industry classes, like the one advertised yesterday in the Sunday funnies, that try to hook people like her into co$.. she told me not to worry.. She said all her friends and coworkers consider it “weird and creepy..”

    • Missionary Kid

      Thanks for the information.

      There’s nothing like the word on the street to undermine the cult.

    • sister wendy

      so interesting! Thanks for the personal update!

  • Bob Gravlin

    I am thinking of all those concentration camp survivors who were paraded out for the propaganda show, but at least those show faces knew the truth usually and played along to avoid more torture. But COS has it one better in that they teach their slaves to love their slavery.

    • Missionary Kid

      I would say that they don’t love the slavery, but they are convinced that Co$ is all powerful and everywhere, so they don’t trust anyone from the outside. They are convinced that Co$ has the police in their pocket, and that whatever happens, the police will return them to Co$.

      It’s all a part of the brainwashing.

  • Cindy

    Off topic, but I just read that Leah Remini is not only going to leave the Church of Scientology, but she is also writing a tell-all book about it!

    • Robert Eckert

      Several people have posted this. The rumor appears to be unfounded, although an astonishing number of news outlets are repeating it.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Nothing wrong about keeping OSA guessing, until most of them blow.

  • Ashley Bunch

    How many $cientologists have to vanish without a trace before law enforcement investigates??? I mean, really. If one person decided to leave the church and live off the grid somewhere that would be one thing, but people are dropping like flies all over the world! Australia, the UK, Florida, Oklahoma, California, the Netherlands, Canada- not to mention out at sea!! …I am SHOCKED that this pattern of abuse, kidnapping, even murder just continues to go unchecked by anyone.