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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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DOX: Class-Action Plaintiffs Aim at David Miscavige’s Total Control of Scientology

Jeff Harris

Jeff Harris

Last week, we reported that Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon, had removed a class-action lawsuit filed against it in Georgia to federal court, and had filed multiple motions to dismiss it.

Now, the plaintiffs in that suit, led by their attorney, Jeff Harris, have hit back with a detailed briefing explaining why they’re suing not only Narconon, but the Religious Technology Center — Scientology’s controlling entity, which is led by the church’s top official, David Miscavige.

Harris attached 31 exhibits of Scientology’s own publications and internal documents in an attempt to show that Miscavige wields total control of the Scientology empire, down to local drug rehab centers like the one in the Atlanta area, Narconon Georgia, that is the focus of this suit.

We have all of those exhibits, and we think you’ll agree it’s one of the most comprehensive assaults on Scientology’s real structure in many years.

The plaintiffs are alleging fraud, deceptive practices, and negligence after contracting with Narconon Georgia for rehab services, typically for a member of their family. But as we’ve been reporting over the last year, it turns out that just about every step of Narconon’s business model contains a level of deception — prospective clients are not told about Narconon’s connections to the Church of Scientology, for example, and usually have no idea that patients receive beginning Scientology training rather than drug counseling.

In fact, former Narconon executives tell us that Scientology officials keep tight control of the Narconon network, which has been a reliable cash cow for the church in recent years. Former officials Luke Catton and Eric Tenorio tell us that officials of the church would constantly call local facilities for updates about cash flow.

But now that it is facing a class-action lawsuit, the church is following its usual strategy, and in several motions to dismiss filed on July 12, denied that Scientology’s top entity, RTC, had anything to do with the Narconon network and should be let out of the lawsuit. (Motions to dismiss were also filed for Narconon Georgia, its umbrella group Narconon International, and its umbrella group, the Association for Better Living and Education.)

Now, Harris is attempting to show the court in this new filing that Narconon — like all other Scientology enterprises — is controlled from the top, by Miscavige and the RTC.

Although Defendant RTC has attempted to formally separate itself from the activities of the Church of Scientology and the other Defendants, a matter emphasized on its Motion to Dismiss, Defendant RTC does not act consistently with these formalities. To the contrary, as set forth herein, Defendant RTC: holds out the Narconon rehabilitation program as its own, promotes Narconon program to the public, and exercises control over the way in which individual Narconon centers operate. Ultimately, Defendant RTC has sought to promote and expand the Narconon program as part of its goal to expand the reach of Scientology and “clear the planet” of non-Scientologists…Defendant RTC’s Chairman of the Board, David Miscavige, is the current leader of the Church of Scientology and its many affiliated organizations, having assumed that role shortly after Hubbard’s death in 1986. In fact, the Church of Scientology, through Miscavige’s subordinate, Sue Wilhere, publicly declared to the St. Pete Times newspaper that “Mr. Miscavige is Scientology.”

In order to establish that Miscavige and RTC are in control of Narconon (and everything else in Scientology), Harris attaches a whopping 31 exhibits. We have them, in order…

Exhibit A: From a 1974 issue of Narconon News, an illustration showing that Narconon was considered “the bridge to the bridge” — a way to recruit new people into Scientology itself, which has members take increasingly expensive courses on “The Bridge to Total Freedom.”

 
BridgeToBridge

 
Exhibit B: A 1972 “Flag Bureaux Data Letter” written by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, congratulating the church’s Guardian’s Office for running and spreading the Narconon program: “The incomparable Guardians Office has been running the Narconon (Drugs-no!) Program over the world.”

Exhibit C: A fundraising mailer from October 1989 which explains that Narconon was a way to get professionals on the Bridge: “Millions of corporate executives, opinion leaders, and professionals from all sectors of society now abuse or are addicted to drugs and alcohol. They urgently need an upstat place, free of psychiatry’s destructive treatments, where they can be fully rehabilitated with 100 percent Standard Tech and then go on up from there.”

Exhibit D: Pages from the secret IRS agreement that gave Scientology tax-exempt status in 1993, describing ABLE and Narconon as Scientology-related entities.

Exhibit E: Booklet that describes the establishment of “Clear Expansion Committees” to promote growth of Narconon and Scientology.

Exhibit F: A 1996 executive directive about Clear Expansion Committees that includes Narconon in Scientology expansion plans.

Exhibit G: Checklist for Clear Expansion Committees that includes instructions for Narconon executive directors.

Exhibit H: A 1996 memo with Clear Expansion Committees project orders.

Exhibit I: A 1996 Clear Expansion Committees memo about “ABLE units” recovering people for Scientology’s Bridge.

Exhibit J: A 2002 directory of Clear Expansion Committees, with Narconon listed.

Exhibit K: A copy of International Scientology News that announces a new Golden Age, and with an illustration that shows Narconon expansion is part of the Ideal Org movement.

Exhibit L: The Command Structures of Scientology, a document that shows the ecclesiastical organization the Watchdog Committee has power over sub-units like ABLE.

Exhibit M: Declaration of Amy Scobee — who says she was appointed Watchdog Committee ABLE by David Miscavige personally, demonstrating Miscavige’s control over the Watchdog Committee itself.

Exhibit N: A command chart of Scientology, showing RTC’s position over the Watchdog Committee.

Exhibit O: Declaration of Haydn James, who watched RTC’s orders supersede local organizations: “The corporate structure of the Church of Scientology and all its related legal entities is separate from its ecclesiastical structure (hierarchy) and the running of all its related organizations. My knowledge and years of experience within the church have left me in no doubt that it runs on, is operated by and through its ecclesiastical organizational layout and not its corporate structure. Its corporate structure exists for other reasons which include the attempt to prevent the spread of legal liability by making obvious and clear distinctions between Scientology corporate entities.”

Exhibit P: An announcement of “amnesty” for Auditor’s Day 1991, which contains this sentence: “The purpose of Religious Technology Center is to see that Scientology is kept pure and on-source and in this way to keep Scientology working.”

Exhibit Q: Declaration of Terris Alene, who worked for ABLE and says that Narconon materials needed approval from an RTC division known as AVC (for Authorization, Verification, and Correction).

Exhibit R: Following the 2008 death of Patrick Desmond at Narconon Georgia, the facility’s director, Mary Rieser, wrote a report to Narconon International and the Office of Special Affairs, Scientology’s intelligence wing — a confirmation that the local Narconon is under their control.

Exhibit S: A 2013 issue of Impact magazine that includes Miscavige’s promise of expansion, including “…a forthcoming fleet of Continental Narconons: for Africa, ANZO, Latin America, Canada, Europe, UK and, just for good measure, another in this nation’s capital.”

Exhibit T: 2013 issue of “Grants News” of the International Association of Scientologists (IAS) with promises of new “continental” Narconon facilities.

Exhibit U: RTC’s website, which boasts of Narconon expansion.

Exhibit V: A 2009 copy of Freedom magazine which boasts of Narconon expansion and trashes the St. Pete Times.

Exhibit W: A 2004 issue of Impact magazine which boasts of Narconon expansion and celebrates Tom Cruise’s Freedom Medal of Valor.

Exhibit X: A 1994 reference guide to Scientology for the media by Heber Jentzsch. (Exhibit Y appears to be the same as Exhibit S.)

Exhibit Z: A 2005 issue of Impact magazine.

Exhibit AA: A 2000 issue of International Scientology News.

Exhibit BB: A 2002 issue of International Scientology News.

Exhibit CC: A 2011 issue of Impact magazine.

Exhibit DD: A 2010 issue of International Scientology News.

Exhibit EE: A recent issue of International Scientology News.

 
And here’s the motion against RTC’s Motion to Dismiss itself.

 

Burgess: Opposition to Motion to Dismiss

 
Harris also filed oppositions to the motions to dismiss by the other defendants…

ABLE

Narconon International

Narconon Georgia

And one last thing: when the case was removed to the federal court, it was assigned to Judge J. Owen Forrester, who then recused himself. It has now been reassigned to Judge Steve C. Jones. We don’t know why that change was made, or whether it’s very significant.

We’re looking forward to the lawyers in the house giving us their thoughts on these documents. Dig in!

 
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Jonny Jacobsen

Jonny Jacobsen

Jonny Jacobsen Does It Again: A 1988 Death at Flag You May Not Know About

Paris-based Brit journalist Jonny Jacobsen has produced another of his murderously rigorous investigations, this one about a 1988 death at the Flag Land Base that has had little attention.

Jacobsen points out that the epilepsy death of Heribert Pfaff has been discussed at the Ex-Scientology Message Board in the past, but never with this kind of journalistic thoroughness and passionate attention. Pfaff was, like other Scientologists, convinced to give up his medication and try to “handle” his epilepsy only with Scientology processing and vitamins. Tory Christman has told us how much she suffered trying to do the same thing until she finally went back on her meds. But Pfaff did not, and he died at only 31.

It’s a fascinating piece, and Jonny has labeled it part one — we can’t wait for part two.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 25, 2013 at 07:00

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  • KNMF

    Good morning, OSA. Good morning, wittle Davey.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Another painful Thursday.

      • Ms. B. Haven

        Yes, another Thursday. With 2:00 approaching (in multiple time zones) SP stats are UP. Maybe not straight up and vertical yet, but we are getting there. GO fellow SPs! 2:00 approacheth.

        • cicely neville

          ROFL!

    • ThetaBara

      You know what I’m gonna say: Freeloader Debt is NOT legally enforceable! Don’t rout out. Just blow!

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        That’s another thing. How the hell are you a freeloader if you put all those hours in down in the bowls of the asbestos boat? Or manning CCLA or one of the other Idle Morgues around the joint? The shit that the lower rungs go through for the private inurement of Tiny McSavage is just mind boggling…………

        Is the lawsuit aimed at proving private inurement for Miscavige at the end of the day, or is this the move the still-ins have been planning for awhile now just to get rid of him?

        • Kim O’Brien

          careful …you are close to a scientology ” what the fuck ” breakdown . I was never “in” and trust me when i tell you that scientology is one huge crazy train with a one way ticket down the rabbit hole . Absorb this stuff a little bit at a time because it really is unbelievable. If you have children ….tread lightly when Tony writes about the kids who have gone through hell …it will hurt your heart . Oh …and if you smoke pot …keep some handy …it helps

          • monkeyknickers

            Been missing you!

            • Kim O’Brien

              hope you are all doing well ;)

            • monkeyknickers

              Likewise sister ! You’re having a big change of life . . . (which I also had if that’s any comfort). Are you managing?

            • Kim O’Brien

              meh ;)

            • monkeyknickers

              It’s a long haul you got. But this is worst and best part (speaking as me of course and not for anyone else) because you finally did it and there’s light at the end of the tunnel PLAINLY visible. And worst because: getting to it is a depressing pain in the ass.

            • Kim O’Brien

              you rock …

  • DodoTheLaser

    “Mr. Miscavige is Scientology.” – Hubbard was such a prankster!
    Seriously, Jeff Harris and the team are on to something. Thank you, guys.

    Another death at Flag?! I hate to know – but go ahead Jonny, let us know.
    Lisa McPherson’s story got me thinking… Also, what happened to Biggi Reichert, OT VIII….

    • Andrew Robertson

      This is just the tip of the iceberg, Dodo. Sadly there are so many more victims of Scientology.

      This web site makes grim reading:

      ‘They Should Not Have Died’

      http://theyshouldnothavedied.wordpress.com/

      Andrew

      • Marie Claire Wolf

        Thanks Andrew.

    • Robert Eckert

      Is that Debbie Cook, looking all theta there in her uniform?

      • DodoTheLaser

        Yes.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      The strange burns on Biggi Reichert’s head were/are still quite disturbing to me.
      I sure would like to know what happened to her in Clearwater.

  • Missionary Kid

    I LOVE IT!!! The lawsuit goes {up the bridge} to the person in control: David Miscavage.
    Note: This is one of the rare times that I use his actual name, instead of one that parodies it. After all, it is a law suit.

    Now, if the feds could only get involved with a RICO prosecution.

  • Truthiwant

    Exhibit A is the most rickety looking Bridge I’ve ever seen.

    It sort of sums up Scientology. “Cross this Bridge at you own risk”.

    I mean, just look at it. The bit in the middle is already collapsing!

    I reckon the luckiest people are the ones that infact fall in to the creek below. They’ll get very wet for sure, but they will save themselves a fortune!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Exhibit A has always been one of the most damning pieces of information available to prove Mr. Harris point.
      I chuckled loudly when I saw that was the first Exhibit.
      Ha!

      This is great stuff.

    • BosonStark

      The trench in the middle is OTIII. Once you learn about Xenu and pass through the wall of fire, you’ll be fine.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        I read all the OTIII stuff that was on the Internetz, more than 2 years ago now…….. And still no deadly pneumonia! Am I really the re-incarnation of The Hubtard? Or is it REALLY BULLSHIT!?!

        An Ewok to whoever guesses it right first!!! ;-)

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I don’t want an Ewok, so I will keep that answer to myself.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Awwww but Douglas, why would you not want an ewok? There are many applications for them around the house…….. Door stop, dog chew toy, welcome mat……….. Rug, zombie apocalypse rations……… The list goes on! ;-)

          • Robert Eckert

            How about a nice friendly tribble?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Is that a mix between……. I can’t even think what to splice together to get something called a tribble………………?

            • Robert Eckert
        • tetloj

          I’d prefer a mogwai (bit more compact)

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Good call on the Mogwai! I shall set the scientist robot monkeys working on the sunlight and feeding after midnight problems immediately! I’ll keep the only one with the multiplying in water bit, that way there will always be more to sell to unsuspecting suc- er, I mean, cute little girls with prams that love cute little fluffy cuddly things………………. for a grand a pop, that is :-D

        • Kim O’Brien

          there are a bunch of girls here …you are doing just fine

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            You lot aren’t girls, you’re WOMEN ;-)

            and face to face I’m nowhere near as smooth, trust me :-P

            • Kim O’Brien

              wow …that was pretty smooth actually . Just don’t call us ‘birds” …i have always hated that

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              That’s the British ;-) the Aussie equivalent is sheilas. And I loathe that word…………….

            • monkeyknickers

              Would you be okay with another moniker? I’m just curious.

            • Kim O’Brien

              LOL …i luv ya …man i wish i lived close enough to babysit …seriously

            • monkeyknickers

              Being that I use sweetheart and honey all the time . . . . . :)

        • Captain Howdy

          You don’t talk to girls..you just learn to listen..learn how to make them laugh..and then you’ll make it to…

          http://www.hark.com/clips/mgtjnrpdgx-pussy-heaven

    • Couch_Incident

      Bridgekeeper: Stop. Who approacheth the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see.
      Sir Robin: Ask me the questions, bridgekeeper. I’m not afraid.
      Bridgekeeper: What… is your name?
      Sir Robin: Sir Robin of Camelot.
      Bridgekeeper: What… is your quest?
      Sir Robin: To seek the Holy Grail.
      Bridgekeeper: What… is the capital of Assyria?
      Sir Robin: I don’t know that. AUUUUUUUUGGGH!

  • Hubbard’s Boil

    Stunning reportage here, Tony. Perfectly awesome work. I don’t know much about the law, but this mountain of documents seems to undeniably establish that Scientology controls Narconon. It will be interesting to hear comments from those with law experience, as I don’t see how any judge could deny this evidence.

  • Rita Gregory

    When your wide awake
    say it for goodness sake
    it’s gonna be a great day
    and it won’t be long…..

  • Observer

    Hahaha! Hoist by Hubbard’s cheesy, didactic petard!

    I’m not at all surprised by Jonny’s story. I’m sure there are many more tragedies like this that will never come to light.

  • 0tessa

    This is aimed at the center of Scientology Inc, at the spider in the web: Miscavige. No way to hide anymore.

  • noseinabk

    I gotta stop checking TO so early in the morning. Though a great article from Jacobsen it
    breaks my heart that the last person Pfaff may have seen before he died was a
    person who only walked him to his room so he would not be regged by someone
    else.
    This happened 25 YEARS ago. How many others are we going to hear of when the cult collapses?

    • JayLester

      I don’t understand. How can so many die at the hand of scientology yet, it seems nobody is serving time, no criminal charges are being applied. How come?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        That is why we are here.
        A lot of it (what they have gotten away with) has to do with the “religious” cloaking.
        They are so litigious and tenacious they wear out their enemies.

        It must stop!!!

        • JayLester

          I agree. But what to do if you’re just a regular bloke? The only thing I did was destroy scientology leaflets left in my apartment building. Can their status be removed? Could they go bankrupt?

          • noseinabk

            What can regular people do? Read, learn and pass it on. If you see a COS article,
            help make sure the comments are not sci propaganda. If you live or work near and org ( I don’t) keep an eye out for what’s going on and
            report it.
            Maybe someone else can give a better answer.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Get as educated as possible. Protest with others. Go to more neutral articles and engage and educate. Tell your family and friends. Use social media to joke and degrade (They hate to be made fun of and it is one of the strongest weapons when it comes to keeping raw meat out of their grips).
            Keep trying to shame the government (being local city, county, state or federal) at every opportunity and in any way legally possible.
            Write editorials where applicable and where they will be accepted.
            The best thing we can all do it just keep talking about it. Loudly and consistently till the right people listen.
            Believe it or not…that is starting to happen.
            Since Katie walked out on Tom all hell has broken loose for this “religion”.
            They are coming down…slowly…brick by brick.
            It is frustrating how slowly….but it is happening.

          • ThetaBara

            Check out WhyWeProtest.net if you want to become more active. You don’t have to raid in person – although it’s really fun! You can also do things like send emails to, say, a school board that is considering using their stupid “study tech” or letting Narconon or that fake human rights group send speakers into schools. And definitely make sure your friends know how you feel about it. Mocking the scilons on social media is fun and helps raise awareness. Commenting on other sites is helpful, too – they send out commenters to say “oh all religions are nutty” etc and we can counter them.

      • shasha40

        M-O-N-E-Y, and their ” fair game ” practices.

      • Kim O’Brien

        ask Cardinal Law from Boston …yuck

  • BosonStark

    Are you saying Dr. Hubtard’s technology won’t cure epilepsy? But it’s still good for lung cancer, right, if you smoke enough?

    • shasha40

      All cancers right ? And psychosymatic ills , asthma ( guess Tiny d*ck still hasn’t mastered the tech ! ), the list goes on. It’s issues like that , that make Scientology So Insidious.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        And don’t forget how “Dr.” Hubtard also knew All About Radiation and how to survive nuclear war with all those niacin pills and whatnot.

        • shasha40

          Yeah, I keep vats of the Niacin around, just in case !

  • Sidney18511

    Oh my my my….Scientology done went and fcuked with the WRONG attorney. It seems like Jeff Harris is one chess move AHEAD of DM and crew! Jeff…..watch your family, pets and garbage because these scilons are cra-cra. Good luck and best wishes to my only favorite attorney.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    I believe it was that 2010 Intl Sci News (Exhibit DD) that Also made it Very Very clear that Miscavige was Responsible for every single area (he’s the only one who can do things right you know) including ABLE and Narconon. If not that issue, then an IMPACT annual issue of 2010 or 2011.

    • shasha40

      He needs to redo everything, beginning with the lower levels, ’cause the only thing he’s ABLE to do is administer more massive foot bullets to Scientology ! Keep ‘em coming Tiny .

  • Bird88

    Well you certainly don’t have to look far to see how evil and sneaky Scientology are, and how quickly they contradict themselves. I mean hell they publish all this stuff and more in their own bloody internal and public documents. Not hard to find at all on the internet age, and with the exmembers going public and ebay lots of this crap. Stupid Psychopaths think their invincible can’t resist bragging about their audacity to some, and end up undoing themselves. Beautiful.

  • aquaclara

    Heribert Pfaff’s death at 31 is unbelievably sad. At 31, there would have been a full life in front of him but Scientology decided that they knew medicine better than any medical doctors, and pushed a quack treatment that ignored his seizures. And then he is left alone to suffer. Jonny, thank you for not letting this pass unnoticed. I hope Heribert’s family and friends will know that many here today are reading about him and share in their grief.
    I want to add a special note of recognition for Fred Oxxam, for being so open about what you saw, and in stepping up. This are not easy memories to recall, yet it is never too late to speak up. Thank you.

    • shasha40

      Ditto !

    • RMycroft

      I only have one other report of Heribert Pfaff’s death in my media archive:

      For some Scientologists, pilgrimage has been fatal December 7, 1997, Lucy Morgan, St. Petersburg Times
      (Behind a paywall now.)

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        {{{So he did not die in vain. That money was put to good use, buying expensive baubles for the leaders of Scientology.}}}

        • monkeyknickers

          Two choices of entree for every meal . . . . and a tanning bed. I’m {so} glad my money is going to his “chicken or fish”.

          As far as the tanning bed goes . . . I’ll take that bed. Maybe he’ll get cancer. Dick.

      • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonathan Jacobsen

        RMycroft, that article has been reproduced elsewhere: either google the headline or see the link at Note 14 of my piece.

  • shasha40

    Wow, just Wow ! I don’t think you’re ready for Mr.Harris and crew Tiny d, they’ve Named you and what you do. Spelled it out nicely for all to see, the tangled web you continue to weave. I Love the amount of Scientology’s own documents being used against them ! Looks like Mr. Harris & company are taking pages from your book Tiny d*ck. The clock’s a ticking…Tick, Tock ! Hope you like orange jumpsuits !

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      See, more tick-tocking. Clocks are needed!!!

      ____days, ____ hours ____minutes____seconds Since Ground Was Broken For Stupor Powerz!(tm) building

      ____days, ____ hours ____minutes____seconds Since Anyone Physically Saw Shelly

      *that Shelly one might be a little off since no one seems to remember the last time anyone saw her, but I say start from the point in 07 when Tiny got back from his trip and she had filled those positions in RTC without telling him

  • Ms. B. Haven

    Off Topic (sort of), this quote is from yesterday’s post on the Scientology Celebrities & Human Rights blog:
    http://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/

    “Funny thing about ESMB — among Scientology Ethics officers, ESMB is one of the more (in)famous “entheta” websites. After Tony Ortega’s blog, ESMB is probably considered the 2nd most entheta website in the world. Based on reports from the CC Int MAAs & reports from Ethics Officers in other orgs we sometimes encounter or hear about, ESMB is one of the most, if not *the* most visited website by cult members who begin voicing doubts about their involvement, at least since 2010. Tony’s blog is probably in the lead since early this year as he looks to have become more popular with cult members on the inside who’ve gotten fed up with Miscavige & cult management in general but keen on officially remaining in good standing.

    It’s also obvious that the cult is far more concerned with the influence both ESMB & Underground Bunker are having on rank-and-file Scilons than with other sources of entheta.”

    Excellent posts like the one today have garnered Tony Ortega this level of acclaim. Way to go Tony! While I occasionally check out other critic’s sites, the Bunker is my go-to site for quality, accurate reporting by a REAL journalist.

    The SC&HR site linked above is interesting, but I don’t know about the accuracy of the info there. The writing style is smart and sassy, but I question who ever writes it and their claim to be SO members implanted there by Anonymous. If that were the case, I would guess that anyone and everyone in the near vicinity would be sec checked within an inch of their life. Of course, when the sec check-ees are paying out the nose for the privilege of being sec checked, maybe that is a profitable strategy.

    • shasha40

      { No Scions would see the site, it’s entheta !}

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      Esmb is worth a peek once in a while, there are a few pearls in there.

      • Captain Howdy

        ESMB is a top source for info. It’s just more reverent than here.

    • ThetaBara

      My theory on that (fascinating!) blog is that whoever is writing it has inside sources at CC but is not actually Sea Org themself. It seems highly unlikely that they’d be able to get away with that much unsupervised computer time, for one thing. But it’s great stuff. Whoever it is, I hope they avoid detection.

  • Andrew Robertson

    Oh dear, Scientology seems to be under attack on multiple legal fronts. Now L Ron Hubbard was fond of quoting Lao Tzu, in fact I understand ‘The Art of War’ is required reading at some point in the parishioner’s path across the Bridge to the other side.

    I wonder if the Chairman of the Board, Religious Technology Center has reached that point yet?

    If not, let’s see what sage advice Lao Tzu would give him:

    “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle”

    “The wise warrior avoids the battle.”

    “When the general is weak and without authority; when his orders are not clear and distinct; when there are no fixed duties assigned to officers and men, and the ranks are formed in a slovenly haphazard manner, the result is utter disorganization.”

    “To begin by bluster, but afterwards to take fright at the enemy’s numbers, shows a supreme lack of intelligence.”

    Andrew

    • aquaclara

      And then there’s this sage advice in war, too. “Take the first fast boat to China…”

      Oh, wait. That’s Jimmy Buffett, not Lao Tzu.
      Well, that’s ok. We’re just getting ready for a clam bake anyway!

    • Robert Eckert

      The Art of War is Sun Tzu. Lao Tzu wrote mysticism (“The Tao that can be named is not the eternal Tao…” etc.)

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        “The Art of War” also contains many contradictory statements…

        Kinda like L Ron’s crap.

        • ze moo

          Read Clausewitz “ON War’, though unfinished at his death, it is required reading at the US Army’s War College. Yes, there is a place called ‘war college’.

      • Kim O’Brien

        huh …i thought Marty wrote those ..weird ;)

        • Poison Ivy

          :-)

        • Missionary Kid

          Zing. Perfect reply.

    • RMycroft

      While the Art of War contains good advice, I’ve often thought it was the War for Dummies of its day. (Sometimes generals would be appointed because they scored high on their civil service exams.)

    • tetloj

      I believe it is required reading for OSA.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but looking at some of these exhibits, especially M,N,O,P and Q, it seems to me that miscavige will have to testify, or at least be deposed.. Yay..

    • Hubbard’s Boil

      That’s what I was thinking, too. They may need another cruise ship. Soon. They have all of those freaky sites where Hubbard’s writings are preserved in case of nukes. There must be a plan for Dear Leader’s preservation as well. Surely he’d bail out rather than testify.

      “Escape from Justice II,” coming soon to a theater near you.

      • Sidney18511

        I had to give you and up arrow just for your name. Loving it!

        • ThetaBara

          Eww! Though I admit it’s funny. At least there isn’t an icon of it! (Yet…)

          • Missionary Kid

            All they’d need is Tubbard’s face. Yecccch.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Hello! Welcome to the boards!

        • Hubbard’s Boil

          Thanks so much for the kind welcome. I finally decided to delurk. I’ve been fascinated with this cult since I ordrered a “free” copy of Dianetics back in 1976. I was ten. You could hear my father screaming from miles away when the book was delivered. He said we’d be getting mail from them until hell froze over. He was right! I actually got a flier recently, even though I have moved many times, changed my name, and have never ordered anything from them since I received the book nearly 40 years ago. Chilling, that.

          • Poison Ivy

            They’ve been tracking them since you were TEN?????
            God, that is creepy!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Ah! So you are one of the millions of satisfied members of the ever-expanding Church of Scientology!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            And… eeeeew! You found an avatar to match your name!

          • aquaclara

            Love your posts-welcome to the Bunker commenting community! Lurking is fun and chiming in, more so. Now to the topic at hand- they found you after almost 40 years!?! Crazy. I hope you’ll share if you get more mail.

    • Once_Born

      There were so many exhibits that they ran out of alphabet – after A to Z, they had to go with AA, AB, AC. However, you know that the CoS are still going to deny everything… Looking forward to that day in court.

      • cicely neville

        This is what I’ve been waiting for. My God, just look at all these docs!!

        “Your Honor, allow me to enter into evidence the Tubby Ronophant in the middle of the room”!

    • ze moo

      When the motion to depose Miscavige is issued, the lawyers will concede the point and admit that RTC and CO$ ‘own’ and ‘run’ NarCONon. There will be no need to settle at this point, the fraud and other allegations still have their course to run. The time and money wasting strategy of Lroon will still be in play….I would expect the CO$ to have to pay for all expenses related to the issue of ‘ownership’ of NarCONon, they did lie when they said CO$ doesn’t run things.

  • Sidney18511

    CONGRATULATIONS MR. O!!!! THE BUNKER IS NUMBER 1 IN THE OSA’s BOOK OF SP ENTHETA SPREADERS. I’m so proud!!

    Funny thing about ESMB — among Scientology Ethics officers, ESMB is one of the more (in)famous “entheta” websites. After Tony Ortega’s blog, ESMB is probably considered the 2nd most entheta website in the world. Based on reports from the CC Int MAAs & reports from Ethics Officers in other orgs we sometimes encounter or hear about, ESMB is one of the most, if not *the* most visited website by cult members who begin voicing doubts about their involvement, at least since 2010. Tony’s blog is probably in the lead since early this year as he looks to have become more popular with cult members on the inside who’ve gotten fed up with Miscavige & cult management in general but keen on officially remaining in good standing.

    It’s also obvious that the cult is far more concerned with the influence both ESMB & Underground Bunker are having on rank-and-file Scilons than with other sources of entheta. The situation with ESMB is especially ironic because while the site title implies a forum for former Scilons, probably a huge chunk of the lurkers & maybe even a small minority of users are people on active service lines who’ve no intention of voluntarily leaving the cult. This shows how incredibly out of touch Miscavige & his Sea Org sycophants are with the wants & desires of many in the rank-and-file.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    There are enough former sea org execs still around and their written exposes of the purpose of that corporate restucture which was only an attempt to fool those wog lawyers and judges and protect Hubbard’s hide so he could stay out of jail and keep hoarding his cash piles. I was glad to see a specific mention that all sci orgs are run on the hubbard organizational structure and the corporate charts are just for Show and Tell.

    This is why DM keeps “Tracking” veteran sea org staff, including the ones he made sure they left. Davey forgot the SO Motto: We Come Back! Raging Ex’s to the left of him, Roaring Mothers to the right, “Here We Come!”

    • shasha40

      ” Davey forgot the SO Motto: We come back! Raging Ex’s to the left of him , Roaring Mothers to the right, Here we come!” roflmao ! That needs a visual ! Damn Tiny d*ck , where ya gonna hide ?

      • Sidney18511

        Now I’ve got that song by Stealers Wheel “Stuck in the Middle with You” jammed deeply into the middle of my brain, where it is stuck on “repeat”. Oh noes…… I don’t even know all the words.

        • ze moo

          “Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you”….

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WROJl6QtNMk

        • tetloj

          You think you got problems. When I read today’s article I got stuck on a Wiggles song…
          Bit by bit,
          Little by little
          block by block
          we’re building it up

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            how about: Sloooooowly I turned, inch by inch, step by step…

        • cicely neville

          You too? And it’s not even 8 yet here. It’s going to be a long day- Never mind, there are worse ones!

    • Sidney18511

      DM is just following the HOLY scriptures as laid out by LRH the messiah, and is looking for any kind of dirt to use as leverage against those who might speak the TRUTH against the COS!

      DM, the keeper of the religious rights for all things scientology. And it’s money flow.

  • ReneeG

    All you need to do to prove Scientology control over Narconon is FOLLOW THE MONEY.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Damn Straight!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      and with Narconon swearing they are secular, thet have to actually report it. and silly wog courts will expect all the different narconon centers reports, and narconon intl, and then ABLEs reports to all add up. and we all know about scientology’s math issues. It is the reason why I was so shocked to learn that Miscavige had morphed it into a multimillion dollar cash cow. This was a huge legal gamble. and then threw gas on the fire with credit card and insurance fraud (allegedly). Sounded like a gambling problem to me, almost like he had moments where he wanted to be caught.

      • aquaclara

        The magic words. Discovery and Money. Whooooeeee!

      • Poison Ivy

        They call it “hubris.”

  • baddog5623

    I would love to see Heber Jentzsch called to the stand to explain his actions and maybe a bit more.

  • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

    KA FUCKING BOOM!!!

    Tony, that made me all warm and gooey. And, sorry to say it, slightly aroused………………….
    It begins. There is NO WAY he’s getting out of this………….

    • Sidney18511

      Unit….a little too much info I think!! LOL

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        I know sorry just got all excited is all. My mouth physically dropped open reading through all that :-D and I think I may have had a slight stroke at the same time from disbelief, but I’ll get back to you on that one ;-)

  • aquaclara

    Davey, just as you’re always telling us, only YOU wear the crown. You must make ALL the decisions, because there is NO ONE who can do things as well as you. And now, you can come to court and get all the credit you finally deserve!

    This motion against the RTC’s motion to dismiss itself is a beeeaaauuutiful doc. I haven’t finished reading ALL the rest of the docs, but i did make it through this one so far. Well-written and packed with facts, it connects the dots on the entities in a way that shows just how significant Davey’s role is in the church.

    Hehehe. I look forward to this day in court. Thank you, Tony! (Now back for more doc reading…)

  • Denise Brennan

    Bringing Miscavige into the suit is exactly what should be done. The
    only misstatement in the filings that I see are that David took over
    control after Hubbard died. While it is true that he solidified his
    control then by deciding he was now in RTC which held the trademarks, he
    was already running it all through his time in Author Services since
    1982 and even before in 1981.

    In later 1981, it was Miscavige I
    had to go to to get approval of the proposed new corporate structure
    starting with CofS International. His was the approval that had to be
    gotten to proceed. And he grilled me for hours in that meeting to ensure
    he could in fact control all the operations after the new structure was
    launched. And this included all the front groups like Narconon.

    Then,
    after we launched it all, Miscavige covertly ran it from Author
    Services while perjuring himself about that same point in declarations
    he filed in the 1990s.

    Lots and lots of people can testify how he
    has been running things since then. But I can tell you that he was in
    on it, making sure he could covertly run it all, from the very first
    instant of the launch of the new corporate structures.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      You came back! (heehee) waving hello

    • Sidney18511

      Denise…I’ve read your affidavit regarding the corporate maze that DM directed. If anyone could pull back the curtain and detail the slight of hand that was used in hiding the tentacles of the scam, it is you.

    • Ms. B. Haven

      From what I remember reading from the transcripts of the Mission Holders conference in San Francisco in ’82, this corporate restructuring was supposed to make the church impenetrable. There is always an Achilles heel though. Maybe in this case that heel is DM. If the reports from the Bunker and elsewhere are to be believed, he rules the RTC with an iron fist and there is no real Org Board in place. There is also no Board of which he is Chairman. According to some reports, one of the things he was raving about around 2005 was the execs lack of ability to put together a workable Org Board that he approved of. When he was absent from Int Base, Shelly stepped in and put together an Org Board, and it was shortly after that when she was disappeared. Now there seems to be an undercurrent spreading of “where’s Shelly?” that just won’t go away. I’m sure there are Bunkerites here that can provide more accurate information than my speculations, but it sounds like a real ‘goat rope’ of mismanagement.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Miscavige has stripped the management structure and knawed it down to the bone. Rte is running the sea org service orgs and sea org execs arerunning class 5 orgs. there is No one at tne top strata. they escaped or un the hole, althouh some, like barbara ruiz, we dont know for sure if still in the Hole. It is DM and his immediate RTC flying monkeys running things. When I heard that an Rtc rep was screaming at an auditor at Flag, right after a session, demanding he get his sales up, I knew the sci organization had shrunk to new low levels in terms of both $ and staff and customers. staff and public alije keep sending reports up the lines to people that are not there, some havent been there for years, like ED Int. The president And the exec director intl have been un the hole for eons, which means Only Miscavige could be issuing orders via his RTC assistants.

        DM is screwed and he was the Master Screwdriver.

        • Gerard Plourde

          The problem is that the management structure Hubbard set up was a legal fiction to give cover to the church from the beginning. Scientology tech and Hubbard management policies guarantee that no one below the top individual (Hubbard and later DM) has sufficient autonomy (or for that matter skill) to make independent decisions.

        • RMycroft

          Miscavige can only fill so many posts with Sea Org teenagers or held from above way up to the RTC. Eventually there will be so many gaps in the hierarchy that the plates stop spinning and the balls hit the ground.

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          True his super micromanagement of the cult is what’s caving it in. His actions, bad press, mounting lawsuits, zero recruitment will exponentially do in Scientology. Hip-hip-huray!

      • Marie Claire Wolf

        Oh, he is a heel alright.

      • villagedianne

        Wasn’t it the exec’s failure to fill vacant Org Board positions (all sabatoged by Miscavige’s refusal to approve their proposals), that led to the infamous Musical Chairs incident?

        Those of you new to this and unfamiliar with Musical Chairs at Int Base, here is a link. An absoulute must-read for Scientology watchers:

        http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=24064

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      Denise this is by far the best assault on Miscavige’s totalitarian control over Scientology. Those exhibits are damning evidence of RTC’s and Miscavige’s control of Narconon. Kudos to Harris.

  • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonathan Jacobsen

    Many thanks for the publicity Tony — and thanks to Markus Stuckenbrock and Fred Oxaal for their patience with me over several months. They both found the time to take me through their part of this story and answer my follow-up questions.

    Many of your regulars will know the terrible loss Markus himself has suffered: the way his brother Uwe Stuckenbrock was left to die far from his family is another Scientology scandal that deserves to be better known.

    I have to pay tribute too to Mona Botros and Egmont R. Koch, the German film-makers who first broke the story of Pfaff’s death — and that of several other Scientologists at Clearwater. Their 1997 documentary, the Dark Side of Scientology, is a landmark piece of investigative journalism. They generously agreed to let me have a copy of Dr Ballin’s letter and Mona Botros’s careful reading of an early draft of this piece was absolutely invaluable.

    I’ll try to respond to some of the other comments below a little later.

    PS The arsenal of exhibits in the class-action suit is just mouth-watering. I’d download it for holiday reading, but I don’t think my wife would approve.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      you rock

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      And Uwe’s wife ditched him to bang Sciloon’s Self Made Pope, while the poor guy suffered. Way to go Laurisse!

      I’ve looked after people dying of MS. A truly horrible disease.

      Most Ethical People On This Planet, my hairy (yet delightfully toned, I’m told,) arse.

      • pronoia

        Yeah. David Miscavige and Laurisse Stuckenbrock had both of their spouses disappeared so that they could cavort in Italy and the car races together with Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Some religion.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Convenient, ain’t it though?

          • 1subgenius

            Church Lady voice: “How conveeeenient.”

      • Marie Claire Wolf

        Do you imply that people suffering from MS have also been lured in hopes of help? I have a son who has had this horrid condition for 10 years now (type B – unremissive), and it hurt just to think what the cult may be up to in regards to this.

        • ze moo

          $cientology is very careful to not print any health promises, but they do seem to verbally promise the sun and moon to sell auditing. This is a violation of consent agreements with the FDA and I believe IRS. Getting proof for legal action is the problem here, Get audio and hopefully video of such health promises. If you can’t prove it in court, it didn’t happen.

          • Marie Claire Wolf

            If people end up dead inside the cult I can see how Herculean a task to prove criminal activities. Thanks ze moo :-)

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              And so many do end up dead. People who with proper medical care could have recovered or had much longer lives.

            • monkeyknickers

              It is fist clinching-ly frustrating B. These stories especially. WHAT are these people thinking? Plus my sister is borderline diabetic.

              You know what is getting to me? Going to Marty or Mike’s blogs. Being late on the scene, I didn’t know them as “evil” and they just struck me as nice guys. I contacted both and pestered them for ways to find my sister and they both politely replied.

              But this adherence to this . . . . . fat, toady, loser who simply plagiarized other thinkers and fibbed endlessly . . . . it depresses me.

              The guy who set up this whole disaster-that-kills is an idiot. He doesn’t have “tech”. He is talking out his ass and only validated by the fact that someone is listening.

              Wait – did I just rant? Because I’ve been puking all morning and I MAY have been ranting. :)

            • Poison Ivy

              Yeah, Monkey, it is astonishing that anyone could still believe that Hubbard was a “genius” after so many years out of the mind control cult. He stole just as many ideas as had original ones, and come on now, he was a pathological liar. Even he admitted that – to himself, once (read his “Affirmations!) If you can’t trust this guy to tell a straight story about what he did during the war, why on earth would you trust that he had the secrets of the Universe?

            • monkeyknickers

              EXACTLY, PI . . . . . he was a headcase. A total headcase and if he hadn’t lucked into his situation, he woulda eventually have been pushing a grocery cart thru the nearest public park, yelling at people waiting for the bus. And when supporters say, well, he WAS flawed . . . I think . .

              well, I have the same reaction in christian debates when people complain that I cite the old-testament god’s demand for genocide and infanticide. They say: Omg you’re bringing up the old testament AGAIN (rolled eyes)??

              My answer is . . . . um . . . YES, YES I AM. It’s like saying: Look, I know I murdered and tortured a whole bunch of people, but I DID give my mom flowers on mother’s day. So can we please drop it ??

              And that is the precise response followers have to this religion. As in: Okay, so I lied about everything, plagiarized a bunch of folks smarter than me, and took my rage and insecurity on innocent people and children. But you should definitely worship me in a way that suggest my every idea is “standard” and that I’ve been to the Van Allen Belt. Oh – and that they have freight trains on Venus.

              What a humanitarian.

              I just don’t get it.

              I really like Mike and Marty and indie scis. I think they’re brave people. But . . . . . . .

            • Marie Claire Wolf

              Yeah, but…they are like Albert Speer, a tad of trouble with the whole truth.

            • loulai

              If they could they would bring back Hubbard and rejoin the original catastrophe. Its like they haven’t listened at all to those who were with Hubbard in the beginning and have told the whole sordid story. They will criticize the present Fuhrer but still worship the original,

            • Marie Claire Wolf

              It is staggering that the US gov. gave this pile of shit a tax free status, I am so mad today that if I had any scilon in my face I would be tempted to do harm, severe harm…

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          They’ll claim they can cure anything at all with their mouth diarrhoea. David Miscavige’s own PA, a woman named Laurisse Stuckenbrock, divorced her husband who had been diagnosed with MS and then went on to be his new concubine. Whom he later RPF’d anyways…………

          http://www.scientology-cult.com/scientologys-dictator.html
          http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?14804-Wanna-understand-what-happened-to-Uwe-Stuckenbrock

          • Marie Claire Wolf

            Thanks for the answer and the links. It is appreciated, the more I learn about this business/con/cult the more I wish I could do something fruitful in terms of helping putting it down forever and ever.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Gotta go for the standard line here:

              Scientology: It is always worse than you think.

          • ThetaBara

            Laurisse was RPF’d? Do tell.

        • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonathan Jacobsen

          That’s not quite what happened in Uwe’s case, Marie Claire. He was already in when he developed the condition — so he was blamed for “pulling it in”.

          You can find his brother Markus’s account of what happened here: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?14804-Wanna-understand-what-happened-to-Uwe-Stuckenbrock

          But yes, Scientology does practise medicine without a licence.

          • monkeyknickers

            I just read it. God what a pile of horseshit this cult is. Even now, I get knocked back by the pure poison it passes out.

            Oh! And! Your article was super interesting, Jacob Jacobsen. You plainly took great pains to be accurate and fair. I’m looking forward to your OSA smear site!!
            :)

            • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonathan Jacobsen

              I live in hope!

            • Missionary Kid

              Are you still going to be in the Portland area in Sept? Bella and I are getting together, and we’re looking for other bunkerites to join us.

              I’m posting this here so prying eyes don’t see it.

              Reply to this post, if you’re interested.

            • monkeyknickers

              HA! That’s perfect. I was going to do the same thing to BTN, asking if I should know that Tony and Scott were a couple, or if it’s tacit, or if it’s not a thing.

              Keep in mind that I spent years living in the castro and it gay and lesbian that got me my start. :)

              Gossipy. :)

              I’d love to see you. ! And yah, I’ll be here all month – I might leave Ash at home :) But you’ll meet the enormous bulk that is the twins. ! :)

            • Missionary Kid

              I posted this back a few days so that it wouldn’t attract attention. Bella and I worked out a way to contact each other by Google +, I’ll have to go back over how we did it.

              In any event, I’ll work out how we can email without snoopers. We’ll try to get Mr. Tilsie (sp?) there too, and anyone else in the area. I’ll be up there in the middle of the month.

            • monkeyknickers

              This is frustrating to me :( I have NO problem being who I am – but both “notable Exes” said I need to be vague or it WILL put her lower conditions and the RPF. I
              I’m positive she used a fake name anyway, and it wouldn’t matter but . . . . I got spooked.

              But this is far behind enough that I can give you my personal email no?

            • Missionary Kid

              I’d say, don’t do it.

              Maybe I’d just too paranoid.

              For one thing, I don’t think you want the cult to figure out what your real email address is, even though you haven’t done anything that would get their attention. For another, anyone can just click on your avatar, and it reveals your latest post, regardless if it is on Tony’s blog days or weeks before. I went to your avatar on today’s posts, and the posting “This is frustrating to me…..” was the first one that came up.

              If you do post your email address, write it like JennyJones at rr dot net because that way the web crawlers that suck up email addresses for spam providers don’t detect it.

              There’s probably enough information that I’ve put out on this blog that someone, with hard digging could figure out who I am. I have one email address that has my name in it, and that only goes to friends. I have another that my response notifications come in on, but that’s used so often that I don’t want to have any spam on it either.

              Bella’s google+ account is not under her legal name, so anyone looking at it, won’t know what her real name is. My Google + account has my real name, so anyone who sees it will know instantly who I am. Sound confusing enough?

              The nice thing about Google+ is that if you’re not in a circle, you have to be granted access to that circle.

            • monkeyknickers

              OMG my head is about to fall off. :)

              I realize I’m meant to have been born with a USB port in my ear, but . . . . . . well . . . . . I didn’t. Birth defect I guess.

              I’ll go explore this Google + thing of which you speak MK!

            • John P.

              You guys might ask Tony to act as an intermediary to forward e-mail addresses to each other. That’s how he first helped me to hook up IRL with several people interested in talking with me. That’d be more secure than taking a chance on Google+ security; I have had my name revealed accidentally on Google+ a couple times inadvertently.

          • Marie Claire Wolf

            Just got back on, and again my most sincere thanks for the great job you are doing. I am truly sorry that this young man was not only struck by this disorder, but also that he had to be bullied into submission to the cult evil impersonation of medical know-how. Reading about him made me terribly sad and mad. Absolutely dreadful for the families who lose loved ones to this sham. Keep up the good work.

          • Missionary Kid

            It would be sweet if DM came down with or diabetes MS or ALS or some autoimmune disease. I wonder how fast he’d come up with some excuse to say why he didn’t “pull it in.”

            • loulai

              And how fast the Chur$h would make sure he got the best possible medical care!!!

            • Missionary Kid

              Exactly.

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      Having suffered years of grand mal seizures for which I took meds that did (sort of) help control this terrible condition, I can understand the appeal that narconon and its promise of a meds-free future would have. These drugs are powerful and have many unpleasant side effects, hence the lure of narconon’s stupid and super dangerous con. I am a very lucky individual in that after years of suffering and bringing brought to the edge of death by the increasing frequency and strenght of seizures, I was hospitalized in one of the world’s top neurological institute and reevaluated, the upshot of this was that, after surgery, I now am free of this plague. There is hope out there for sufferers and it is not found in scams like narconon. Thank you very much for speaking on behalf of the victims.

  • Stephanie

    Is this one of many reason’s David Miscavige is hiding in Clearwater in a vacant building without an Occupancy Permit? The paranoia is too much and he figures he could get on the spin machine and disappear if the Process Server’s find him?

    • Spackle Motion

      I like to have the image of him getting served by a Sheriff while on stage, spouting his nonsensical drivel. I’m sure a bunch of sheriffs can get past the tight security and serve him when he’s most vulnerable. It’s the one place that would humiliate him the most, too.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Tents have no walls…not even a “permanent tent”…just dreaming.

      • Lark Smith

        I imagine Davey in the tent in a Ring Masters costume singing “Road to Nowhere” by the Talking Heads, while dressed up Sea Org members dance in line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWtCittJyr0

        Lyrics:

        Would you like to come along?
        And you could help me sing this song

        And it’s all right, baby it’s all right
        They (We will) can tell you what to do
        And make a fool of you
        And it’s all right, baby it’s all right

        We’re on the road to nowhere
        I love this song -the image of David Byrne standing in the desert in his swimsuit and inner tube is classic.

      • John P.

        I believe Graham Berry did something like this, having process servers and a couple of actors posing as a family attending some sort of Scientology public event, then pushing their way up to John Travolta, Kelly Preston and others for pictures, and whipping out the paperwork. Apparently, Berry subpoena’d Travolta as part of a lawsuit. Unsurprisingly, the cult settled almost instantly. I can’t find the reference in a quick search and don’t have time to do a more thorough dig for it.

  • iHateDuplicity

    This is awesome. At last, OSA and Dwarf Midget are being hit with their own BS in a place that matters and where it will leave a lasting record – not fly-by-night celebrity media but a court of law. Their own issues and directives are now a matter of public record, showing undeniably and conclusively that Narconon is absolutely a Church operation from start to finish. Everyone in Scientology knows this is the case, so it’s another appallingly bad idea to even try to assert that the Church and Narconon are wholly separate and distinct activities that have nothing to do with one another. And there is no getting away with the “no it’s not!” cry baby defense here. This is great news to start my day. Thanks Tony!

  • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

    I have a question for those of you that were in: how would they “handle” Type1 diabetes? Or conditions of a similar nature? Because the very very last thing you ever would do, is tell a diabetic to stop taking their insulin. Because that would kill them, slowly and painfully……… Even though it’s not a psych drug, I do remember reading somewhere that “Dr.” (that man was SUCH a liar) Hubtard knew how to “lessen” the effects of diabetes on people? Did it ever work, at all? Even to LOWER blood sugar?

    • Imelda Marcos

      Tom Cruise swears (when he’s interviewed by the women of the View, gagme) that “noooo, of courseeeee, people take their medication”. ;)

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Have Tom tell that to Kelly Preston and John and Jett Travolta. Oh, wait a sec……………..

        • Imelda Marcos

          He’s also the most prominent Scientologist who would rant about Narconon being the only way to keep people off drugs. What did he say; “we are the experts in drug addiction” ? implying the obvious, that Narconon was part of Scientology. Perhaps he was told to stop saying that out loud.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Probably why they wanted the video off the net as soon as it hit.

            Ah, Hubtard. If only you had gone forward on the whole track, you would have seen this…………….

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I have a question for those of you that were in: how would they “handle” Type1 diabetes? Or conditions of a similar nature? Because the very very last thing you ever would do, is tell a diabetic to stop taking their insulin.

      WANNA BET?
      Go Google: Scientology Type 1 Diabetes

      See ya in a week! (joking, hopefully)

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Jeebus o_O they truly are insane in that case.

        I nearly choked on the Coke I was drinking when I saw this though…..

        “Scientology views abortion as something that each individual member
        should decide for themselves. While they do have core writings against
        killing, they do not have a core view on when a foetus actually becomes a
        human being. So it comes down to a matter of individual conscience.”

        Uh, no. No, it doesn’t. And, I think the “core values against killing” are rescinded when it comes to being told to R2-45 people (and yourself if deemed necessary. No witnesses!!)

        I don’t scare easily at all by the way ;-) I thought Alien was a comedy when I first saw it at age 11
        ;-)

    • sister wendy

      Here’s a story I haven’t quite gotten over: I was on a really simple pain med for severe abdominal pain (un-diagnosed endometriosis). These pain meds were the ONLY thing that allowed me to not pass out from pain on a daily basis. Because at that point the doctors couldn’t FIND the endo, the org people said the pain MUST BE IN MY HEAD (we are talking labor pain before you push, not something you can really make up). So they BEGGED me: “Don’t take your pain meds!!!!! Your pain meds are evil!!!!”

      Because the doctors hadn’t found the endo (thus far) and I was willing to try anything to get rid of the pain, I agreed to stop the meds and let them try a series of touch assists. They even came over to my house while I lay, screaming, in bed from the pain. I already was taking a gazillion vitamins and their ever-famous Cal-mag drink, to no avail, so all they could do was run through various touch assists. After 5 hours of labor pain, I passed out- they thought the TA’s were working (!) My husband just brought me the pain meds after they left all happy and we agreed I wouldn’t tell people I was taking anything for the endo after that unsuccessful attempt at: Say hello to your uterus, let your uterus say hello to you….

      • Mark

        Horrible. Their attitude is reminiscent of the way some Christian Scientists used to behave – all fixed and terrifyingly bright grins, denying pain as ‘illusion’, and ‘demonstrating’ that Omnipotent Mind had ‘cured’ them – like the character Mrs. Bliss in E.F. Benson’s comic novel Paying Guests.

        • MissCandle

          If you are god-like, then you won’t get sick.

          • Mark

            Mary Baker Eddy lives!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        and this is WHY I say scientology “lite” practiced by Indies is Still Dangerous Quackery. I Still see even recent promoting of auditing to cure cancer on these indie sites and it gets me all embroiled since I lost So many people to cancer, especially staff, who at best went to scientology medical people, even chiropractors, along with auditing to cure themselves and it wasn’t until Stage 4 they saw an oncologogist if at all. Others I learned had died of some other condition, at early ages. Or suicide from the crazy. They are Dead. Dead. They’re children are without their mother, or father, Forever. And if you happen to Sneeze or get the flu, you Must Have an SP on your tail and this is your Ethics fabric woven into the quackery.

        Scientologists still believe they are above the law because Hubbard’s garbage is “superior”. They are not licensed to practice Anything much less Diagnose much less Treat. But just Try and have a logical sane conversation with them about going to college, learning what the rest of civilized practioners must learn, testing, the skills, the certifications required. That’s when they’ll reach into their pocket to pick out one of their cards…this time the Religious Card. The other cards are Therapist Card, Practioner cards, Educator Cards, Marriage Counselor Cards…they got one for every occasion, every conversation. No Thinking Required. Pfffffft!

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Apparently a few governments around the world have allowed them to be above the law the rest of us and every other “religion” on the face of the planet must abide by, unfortunately. And with everything that is coming to light in even the last few hours, those governments now need to be asking some very hard questions about it. There’s simply no more ignoring it. People want answers and a stop to the bullshit.

        • Mark

          I wondered where the Erisians got their idea:

          • ze moo

            ‘Doc’ Smith (a real phd) was a much better writer then LRH.

            • Mark

              But are there any worse writers than the Leviathan of Logorrhea? What about Dan (blech) Brown?

            • Missionary Kid

              In the non-science fiction category, Bulwer-Litton?

            • Mark

              Oh, poor old Bulwer-Lytton! He’s probably never going to live down that “It was a dark and stormy night” business; he wrote it as a parody. He was no worse than a lot of other Victorian novelists, and did write some proto-SF: Vril: the Coming Race (subterranean invaders prefiguring the ‘Shaver Mystery’ stories) and Zanoni (mysterious hero with occult powers).

            • ze moo

              The ‘Vril’ became a nazi favorite. It took a long time to get rid of the ‘superman’ mythos. Remember, Nietzsche died of syphilis

            • Mark

              Ironic that ‘Vril’ is Bulwer-Lytton’s garbling of the Hebrew spelling of ‘Uriel’, who with Michael, Gabriel and Raphael, is one of the four archangels. (Sorry to take so long; having dinner).

            • Robert Eckert

              The beef-consumme’ product (with lots of bogus health claims in the 19th century, but now just marketed as a kind of Vegemite) called “Bovril” was named after the Vril (the bo- prefix is from the Latin for “cow”). US readers will likely never have seen the stuff, but on the other side of the pond it is still a thing.

            • RMycroft

              If they can’t get it in the US, then they can smuggle some down from Canada.

              http://www.knorr.ca/Images/1042/1042-259465-product_bouillon_bovril-liquid-beef-25-less-salt.png

            • Mark

              Bovril started out as ‘Liebig’s Extract of Meat’, and used to have some weird adverts (See what I posted here yesterday). Vegemite is Australian, and an imitation of original Marmite – both being yeast extracts. Dunno about dignifying Bovril as ‘consomme’ though – ‘beef tea’ is closer to the mark! Otherwise, it gets stirred into gravies and stews, unless you’re a veggie, when Marmite works as well – though mostly Marmite is eaten spread very thinly on well-buttered toast in the UK – like patum peperium, you either love it or hate it!

            • Missionary Kid

              The reason he got nailed here in the U.S. is because Snoopy started to write on his typewriter, and often started out with “It was a dark and stormy night…”

              I never read Bulwer-Litton when I took English Literature, but, of course, I read a lot of stilted language. It really wasn’t that much of a problem for me because I was raised with the KJV of the bible, which had a lot more lyricism, but also a lot of “begats.”

            • John P.

              The Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest ( http://www.bulwer-lytton.com ) is a relatively recent vector for trashing the literary memory of Sir Edward. Worth a read if you like bad writing as much as I do.

              http://www.bulwer-lytton.com/images/snoopydark.png

            • Robert Eckert

              A favorite of mine from years past: “John was as tall as a six-foot-two-inch pine tree. Susan was as lithe and willowy as a willow tree. They had never met, like two hummingbirds who had also never met. But they were destined to meet sometime, like a train leaving Denver eastbound at 4 o’clock at 50 miles an hour and a train leaving Topeka westbound at 4:30 at 45 miles an hour. She caught his eye, like the pointy hook that flies up on the screen door when you slam it too hard. He was drawn to her, like a tornado to a trailer park. She stepped onto the boat like a butterfly stepping out of its cocoon. The boat slid into the water exactly the way that a bowling ball wouldn’t. Night fell softly, like the snow, except that snow is white and the night was dark, except that the stars were white, but they didn’t fall.”

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s what I was indirectly referring to. Thanks for the link.

              Tom Jones was an excellent movie, but a very dry book that came from that era.

              Reading the novel, as I remember it, was pretty dry, because writers of that age didn’t write anything directly, but subtly implied sex. You had to read between the lines, and, I believe, know the cultural context of the time. The movie made explicit what was written very subtly in the book.

            • Mark

              …and ‘let’ meaning ‘prevent’ &c. I prefer the RSV.

            • Missionary Kid

              Probably because I was raised with the KJV, and the fundies were just starting to give the RSV its due when I was growing up, that’s what I read and learned to memorize all those bible verses. Like reading LRH, we had to have our decoder rings to figure out what the modern meaning was for everything.

              I still like the lyricism of the KJV, in spite of being an atheist.

            • ze moo

              Dan Brown was ignorable until he stated that the premise behind Da Vinci code was true. I.e. that Jesus had a child and the child lived in France.

          • L.L. Cantare J

            Wow, I didn’t know Sterling Cooper Draper Price could appoint popes! :-)

        • Missionary Kid

          You forgot the supercilious asshole attitude card that they play because they assume they’ve got control over MEST because LRH told them they did.

          When they realize it’s all fake, that card disappears.

        • sister wendy

          That is so sad- and isn’t it amazing the number of OTs lost to cancer….really overwhelming. My daughter lost an auditor in the blink of an eye to untreated breast cancer that couldn’t be “audited” out. From a different angle, I know some pretty exciting alternative health practitioners whom are very good, are still in Sci-bot Land- and they get SO much flack from the staff about what they are doing. they are being accused all the time of not using policy properly. Fortunately they stand strong.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Nuh-uh. No thanks. No way, no how.

        I was diagnosed with diabetes when I was 11 (which is why I was asking earlier…… I swear I remember seeing a copy of Dianetics around my house at some stage when I was very young, but I think my mother was way too smart to get sucked in by it and my father wouldn’t have bothered reading anything that wasn’t a surfing magazine at the time,) however I had it for well over a year before the doctors could figure out what was wrong with me. One day I was so sick it felt like I had literally had fire injected into every molucule in my body. All I could manage was to to crawl to the bathroom and lie on the tiles, on my back with my head turned throwing up the lining of my stomach. At that point I wished I was dead for 6 months already, it was that fucked. I couldn’t imagine what the next stages of my body shutting down would have been like, but I’m guessing, moar fucked.

        Anyway, my point is that letting anyone go through that sort of shit is a crime in and of itself, and Scientologists have been getting away with what amounts to homicide by negligence for years.

        http://www.xenu-directory.net/mirrors/www.whyaretheydead.net/

        • RMycroft

          It’s all in your head.

          “The problem of psycho-somatic illness is entirely embraced by dianetics, and by
          dianetic technique such illness has been eradicated entirely in every case.

          “About seventy per cent of the physician’s current roster of diseases falls into the category of psycho-somatic illness. How many more can be so classified after dianetics has been in practice for a few years is difficult to predict, but it is certain that more illnesses are psycho-somatic than have been so classified to date. That all illnesses are psycho-somatic is, of course, absurd, for there exist, after all, life forms called germs which have survival as their goals.”

          Hubbard, Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health. (First edition.)

    • Vistaril

      Jeff Jacobsen wrote a handy reference detailing many of L Ron Hubbard’s insane medical claims. Can’t see any mention of diabetes specifically but the article is worth a read to see just how deep the Scientology crazy can go. Sample . . .

      “A child had died, was dead, had been pronounced dead by a doctor,
      and the auditor, by calling the thetan back and ordering him to take
      over the body again brought the child to life.”

      Check it out here —> http://www.lisamcpherson.org/cos/ftp/medclaim.txt

  • Minion Gayle

    July, the month that just keeps on giving.

    Has there been any sighting of Mary Reiser lately? Ever since that memo popped up, I’ve pictured her taking a “Do not pass go” trip straight to the hole.

    Edited for crapping spelling.

  • Missionary Kid

    Geez,on the entertainment news on the local NBC station they just announced that John Travolta is going to be a guest star on Krusty’s new sitcom. The premise is that a Broadway star, (Krusty) has a one night stand with JT’s character. The series is going to be on the TV LAND cable network.

    I wonder what weight Krusty will come in at, middle, light heavy, or heavyweight.

    • pronoia

      Isn’t that setting a bad out 2D example?

      • Missionary Kid

        *Laugh* Actors, of course, get a pass on that. They’re supposedly reading a script.

  • Imelda Marcos

    “Pages from the secret IRS agreement” – THIS blows my mind. Is it unusual for people to have seen the agreement?

    • Skwerl King

      Exactly. Maybe we could see all of the agreement?

    • TonyOrtega

      It was leaked by the Wall Street Journal in 1997. The text is at Operation Clambake if you want to read the whole thing.

      • Imelda Marcos

        Thanks, Tony. Obviously I am behind the times, weak lol.

      • Spackle Motion

        It may have been leaked, but the Defendant may bring up questions about its veracity if not an official document, even if leaked by the Wall Street Journal. That would be a sideline proceeding that I’d pay to watch, if the judge allows it.

        • Gerard Plourde

          This also shows the trap Harris has created. To object to the document would require that Scientology produce the actual agreement, since it’s established that the IRS did issue a ruling granting tax-exempt status.

  • Phil McKraken

    “Millions of corporate executives, opinion leaders, and professionals from all sectors of society now abuse or are addicted to drugs and alcohol. They urgently need an upstat place, free of psychiatry’s destructive treatments, where they can be fully rehabilitated with 100 percent Standard Tech and then go on up from there.”

    Uh, wow. Just astounding. They really thought (or at least pretended) that drug rehab is a great place to recruit “opinion leaders,” executives and professionals. That is really, really dumb. Try the country club next time, Davey. Now, if you want to recruit vulnerable yet slightly unreliable folk to your cause, the drug rehab center is the place to go.

  • Gerard Plourde

    The detail and precision contained in the response indicates to me that the motion to dismiss was fully expected and that Jeff Harris had the outlines of his answer prepared beforehand.

    The sheer number of official Scientology documents included as exhibits is impressive.

    Scientology is being drawn into a trap. They had to file the motion to dismiss or lose the ability to litigate that issue on appeal, but in doing so gave Mr. Harris the ability to further advance a major component of his case.

    • RMycroft

      That Narconon is part of the Scientology organization is absurdly well documented in their publications and presentations.

      • Sherbet

        It all makes me wonder what DM’s legal team is saying to him. (1) We’re screwed, so we’ll keep trying to cover up with smoke and mirrors, or (2) We’re doing fine, COB! We’ve got dox to contradict their dox!

        • Gerard Plourde

          The difficulty lies in the client. Ordinarily in an attorney-client relationship the client controls the goal of the representation and the attorney controls the strategy. Even under the best of circumstances, a stubborn client can fail to abandon a lost cause before it’s too late, triggering unnecessary and costly litigation.

          • Mark

            How long before Shortarse’s shysters end up with nothing left but the insanity defence for their client? Oh how I wish this case was being heard here in the UK – they’d have that shrivelled sociopath banged up in Broadmoor at the drop of a hat.

            • Gerard Plourde

              Unfortunately for his lawyers the insanity defense isn’t available in civil cases. (DM might not be able to plead insanity anyway. He wouldn’t meet the standard in Pennsylvania. Not sure what tests apply in other jurisdictions.)

              His team may already feel like they’ve signed on to the legal equivalent of the Titanic. (or maybe The Flying Dutchman?)

            • RMycroft

              Well… Too bad there’s no asshole defense then. (“Your honor, my client is an asshole. He has always been an asshole, and always will be one. There is no cure.”)

            • Gerard Plourde

              The defense you describe is often used by attorneys to explain to the judge why they’re wasting the court’s time with an obvious loser of a case.

            • Robert Eckert
            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Actually, there is a cure, it’s the same cure as for fuckwitism, and Scientology even have their own version of it. Can you guess what it is? ;-)

              *this cure is not recommended, at all, ever. Consult your doctor before use. And do not use the cure on others as it may result in prison terms where brutal raping may occur.

            • ThetaBara

              In that case all we can do is toss him in the Miscavage Hospital for the Criminally Insane!

          • Sherbet

            If it’s cos’s money that COB is wasting by being stubborn, that’s fine with me. Unfortunately, the plaintiffs have to go along for the ride, and it costs them money, too.

            • ThetaBara

              Hopefully they will be awarded legal expenses when all is said and done. Judges really dislike being lied to and used to harass people.

            • stillgrace

              Now, if we could inform Mike Walker over at the National Enquirer that he was lied to and used by scientology to harass Leah Remini. I don’t tweet, so if anyone wants to let Mike Walker know about his faux pas yesterday, have at it! He has no email listed or he’d receive an informative grace-o-gram.

            • ThetaBara

              You can always call them! I’m sure there’s contact info for the Enquirer out there somewhere. Calling to complain about things can be a very satisfying form of individual activism. ;-)

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              This has been done. I used his “tip” contact.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Somewhere (I am sure in one of the Exhibits) the org board for Narconon shows in the last section of Division 6 (public field) that the “product” is customers into a scientology org for further services.

      • stillgrace

        Thanks for the image, RMycroft. I count FOUR (4) Narconon logos!! {And I R an enjineer!}

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Hello! A class action lawsuit against the Church of SCientology itself is… such a great idea.

    Now, all you folks who still have money on account– why not also get together? There is strength in numbers!

  • 10oriocookies

    Jeff and his team will win.

    • 1subgenius

      Agreed. Hope you can help.

    • monkeyknickers

      Dig it. And when they do it’s cocktail time. :)

  • Interested

    I have just read Jonny Jacobsen report and attempted to see the German report dir dunkle seite von scientology or as translated “the darker side of scientology” unhappily this website appears to have disappeared. BLACKPR?…if anyone can send me to another site to see this I would be grateful as I am interested in the 7….. Yes SEVEN deaths at Clearwater. Apart from having the police in their pockets surely there is a law in the USA of negligent homicide? If so many have died following LRH policy just in CW then….! .?

    • Captain Howdy

      It’s on YouTube, unfortunately the video quality isn’t the best.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrZbCwwHnpQ&feature=share&list=PLC14344052CC0FFAD

    • Interested

      Seek and he shall find…. On YouTube.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Kyle Brennan’s story is particularly disturbing, as is Lisa McPherson’s.

      • Captain Howdy

        Your welcome.

      • Interested

        Worth watching. Dark side of scientology Tom cruise’s cult

    • stillgrace

      Hello, Interested. If you dig deep into the death of Lisa McPherson in Clearwater, you will find that David Miscavige himself, was the C/S for Lisa and PERSONALLY supervised her case and is DIRECTLY responsible for the mismanagement that led to her death. He got away with murder that time. And Marty Rathbun subsequently admitted he destroyed documentation that implicated Little Boots. I think Marty’s words were “Lose ‘em!” (meaning the documentation).

      Remember Lisa McPherson. Remember Annie Broecker. Produce Shelly Miscavige.

      • shasha40

        Don’t worry Grace, Heeeeerreess, Karma ! Yes , All for you tiny dick ! Be careful going in the hole Interested .

        • stillgrace

          I just checked, and if you google ‘Lisa McPherson’, David Miscavige’s picture and name STILL shows up in the first position in the row of “People also search for:”
          I’ll take a miniscule portion of comfort in that fact.

          • shasha40

            Yeah for Google on that one ! See, can’t control every thing Tiny d*ck , your magik powerz are fading . Quick, to the Sooper Powerz building to exteriorize !

      • Interested

        Absolutely … Is she alive not just physically but mentally?.?

    • Studious Judious

      If you are new to Scientology watching, I recommend the wikipedia articles on Death of Lisa McPherson and Operation Snow White

      • Interested

        Thank you. It’s not that I’m new. In fact my friends are all wondering if I am being brainwashed :))but I am hooked and have been for over a year having read Blown for Good . Then billion year contract , going clear, Jenna miscavige etc… But I am new to tony’ s site and I am now completely Enthralled that I am not alone in my disgust for this church. I know that many groups ( I will not say religions) have things that are off but nothing I have seen or read has shocked me as much as this disregard for decency honesty or freedom… All things toted by scientologists as being the basis of their religion. I read, don’t know who wrote it, but everything is the “opposite”.
        If they say it is white you know damn well it ain’t. Enough said. .

    • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonathan Jacobsen

      Sorry ‘Interested’, thought I’d fixed that. Have tweaked the notes to link to the grainy dubbed version provided by Cap’n H.. I had noticed that a lot of the Internet versions had disappeared, some in recent months I think. I was going to ask Mona Botros about that but ran out of time. Later maybe. (And how gratifying to find someone who reads the footnotes! :-));

      • Interested

        Thanks a ton. Did watch or should I say listen. Foot notes are the best. Re footnotes. Did you read the one speech of mein kleinerfurer exhibit W pg 12 half way down. ” and having failed to wipe out the church……. We are talking about FBI and IRS infiltration….. ” does this brain dead mini Stalin really think he can obliterate history? Have you noticed that they blame others for what they do themselves. I have the sensation of living George Orwell both animal farm and 1984.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Interested,

      This is a bit off topic of what you were speaking of, but this is a really interesting story of how cruel the cult can be when it wants to extract money.

      And that is what they always want….

      http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/newtimes-lopez-swindle-12212000.htm

      • Interested

        I am gagging with disgust. MG how do these registrar “people ?” sleep. Thank you for sending this link. This was years ago. Those who had been in charge then are now being trotted out as angels…I am trying to understand how anyone can be made to lose their inherent knowledge of right and wrong and decency. What power the brainwashing and the fear. Lord of the flies….. Survival….

  • Sherbet

    What GALL cos has to pretend — as they will continue to do — there is no connection among the Hydra’s heads.

    • Captain Howdy

      Scientology doesn’t have “gall”, they have “acceptable truths” which are necessary because our uninitiated wog minds can’t..

      http://youtu.be/UXoNE14U_zM

      • Sherbet

        New slogan: Scientology = We mishandle the truth.

        • Missionary Kid

          That slogan goes into my collection.
          Footbullets are optional, but always selected.

        • shasha40

          Bahahahaha ! Excellent !

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    The real end phenomenon of Scientology is a class action suit which compensates for the fraud and destroys the financial resources of the cult. With any luck it will alert the sleeping government of the United States and throw those responsible in jail.

    That’s where this is heading though there is no telling what will happen in a court. If this doesn’t do it the next one will.

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      The US government need to pull it’s head out of it’s arse and do something. I’m sure they are fully aware of what goes on, but, like PRISM, they’ll keep their heads covered for as long as possible then come up with some bullshit excuse for not having done anything about the slavery, coercion, human trafficking (because that’s what you are doing when you are keeping people out of view and incommunicado for years on end and giving them no options but yours)

      LAW ENFORCEMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHERE IS SHELLY MISCAVIGE? WHERE IS HEBER JENTZSCH? WHY ISN’T STUPOR POWERZ!(tm) STILL NOT OPEN AND WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HIDE BEHIND TAX EXEMPT STATUS WHEN YOU KNOW IT IS NO REAL RELIGION!!!???

      /rant

      • Kim O’Brien

        no religions are real ….that is why there are so many of them ;) in this country …we step around religion like one would do with a pile of shit in the middle of the living room . No one dares to touch it ( cause it’s shit after all ) but it stays in the middle of the room …dries up …loses a bit of the stench …and them becomes a part of the room . Kind of like a non smoker who for some reason …has ashtrays .

        • Captain Howdy

          Good luck with that one, Kim. : )

          • Kim O’Brien

            yeah …i might need you later to pull out the knives from my back ;)

            • stillgrace

              Your perspective provided such a vivid, overwhelming, visual image of the role of religion in today’s society. Hard to unsee! However, good to “see” you, and I hope you doing well.

            • Kim O’Brien

              thank you ..i appreciate the good vibes . Right back at ya ;)

        • 1subgenius

          Gonna disagree with you.
          We do not have freedom FROM religion.

          • Kim O’Brien

            well …sorta. Mormons don’t come to my door anymore ..i think i am on the ” don’t fuck with that crazy lady ” list .

            • Captain Howdy
            • Kim O’Brien

              yes ! oh captain my captain …you really are awesome. I have never called them pig fuckers …yet

            • 1subgenius

              I’m referring to the massive efforts to make this a Christian country, and the numerous entanglements of church and state.
              It has, in your words, become “part of the room.”

            • Kim O’Brien

              i know …they keep trying but we have to keep fighting . It has become “part of the room” ..but the stench has lessened . My daughter is 11 and i come from a huge catholic family with nuns and shit ….i “baptized” her myself in the Colorado river , she has never once been inside a church , and she watches old Christopher Hitchens debates on you tube. Every little bit helps ;)

            • Sherbet

              Does she watch religious videos on YouTube as well? Just trying to give the girl a balanced viewpoint, y’know. ;-)

            • Kim O’Brien

              she watched the ten commandments once at easter when she was like 4 ..for days she kept asking me ” what is a sodomite ” and ” if people are wandering around lost …why didn’t they ask someone for directions ?” Man …i love my kid

            • Robert Eckert

              “why didn’t they ask someone for directions ?” They were a patriarchal society. If they’d been led by a woman, they would have asked…

            • Kim O’Brien

              yeah …my gramma told her that men have NEVER asked for directions …and the proof is in the bible . Oh irony …how i love thee

            • Sherbet

              That’s funny! She’s a wit!

            • Sherbet

              I think the best thing a parent can do is teach their children to open their eyes and open their minds.

            • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonathan Jacobsen

              Don’t forget to make sure she can quote entire passages from The Life of Brian…

  • Mark

    Another excellent piece, Tony. The evidence is inexorably piling up about the pernicious spawn of the Co$.

    And well done Jonny, for reminding us that the USA sadly has no monopoly on this cult’s murderous antics.

    • ThetaBara

      Well done!

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    To all the folks who are new to this. Ask any questions you like and someone here will help point you to data.
    We recognize just how deeply disturbing this subject can be to someone who is first looking into it.
    So if you see a whole lot of joking and sarcasm, please understand while we make fun of this subject…we know damn well how unfunny it is.
    The more you learn, the more you will realize the constant joking helps keep you from going off the deep end into despair at the magnitude of it all.

    So joke away…the more you learn, the more you will need it.
    And welcome to you all.

    • Captain Howdy

      Just remind them to say thanks for the info.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        And thanks for the info ;-)

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      Bury, I have actually been reading up about this scam for a couple years now, but I would tend to gloss over the deeper “meanings” of what was written because quite frankly most of it didn’t make any sense to me. However, having kept at it, I could probably speak Scientologese fluidly now *shudders*

      It’s just that I’ve not come across a lot of material on other conditions that first Dianetics and then Scientology claimed to be able to cure or remedy in some way, so I’m just wondering if there were many people with things like diabetes in the Sea Org on on the RPF that may not have had the best access (if any) to the treatments they would need simply to stay alive.

      2 things a Type 1 diabetic would need on a regular (daily) basis would be insulin and food to make sure they didn’t slip into a coma from lack of fuel for the brain……….. And I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t get a lot of either in The Hole…………

      • Captain Howdy
      • ThetaBara

        There’s a bit in Jenna Miscavige Hill’s book, Beyond Belief, about how medical issues were handled. She was assigned to be the medical person for her group at the age of seven (because, you know, children are little adults so it’s totally appropriate to have a seven year old making medical decisions). It was her duty to try to treat any health problem one of the other kids had. They also had her doling out vitamins. Fortunately, she’s smart and was a good reader so she knew that you can have too much of certain vitamins – but Jeely Kreely! Seven!

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          I have to order me a copy of Jennas’ book, Lawrence Wrights’, and Janet Reitmans’ as well. Harder to get a hold of them from book stores here

          • Zana

            Get them on Kindle from Amazon. Read on your computer, Kindle, iPad… whatever. They come wirelessly and immediately.

          • Robert Eckert

            On the side-bar at the top (third thing down, after the direct Donate, and the Featured Post link) is an Amazon link, and if you go through that one Tony gets some pennies out of it.

        • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonathan Jacobsen

          “I knew what all the vitamins were and and that certain ones, like vitamin A, could be overdosed,” she writes on page 55.

          Which is more than Hubbard appeared to know.

          She also writes: “The only time I witnessed a doctor’s visit, I was accompanying a friend who needed stirchtes, and wound up fainting at the sight of blood…

          “One rule that was firm however, was that no matter how sick a kid was, we never used drugs to relieve pain or reduce fever… There were times when I was extremely sick with a high temperature (102 or 103) to the point of nearly passing out, even vomiting, and I was simply told to drink fluids and get rest.” (pages 56-57).

          • ThetaBara

            Great cites. There was also the kid with the broken arm (it got caught in an automatic garage door) whose parents gave “touch assists” and waited overnight to go to the Dr. Not sure where I saw this. But the more you look, the more dismal stories you will find.

            • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonathan Jacobsen

              Have a look too, at the effect that sleep deprivation had on Maureen Bolstad, in Part Six of my account of her time in Scientology — and the accident it provoked that damaged her eye… http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2010/08/6-disconnection.html

            • ThetaBara

              Wow. The thing with her mom is even sadder than the eye injury.
              Thank you for bringing these things to light!
              Also I like that you refer to it as a “movement” rather than a religion.

            • Poison Ivy

              And then there was Karen DeLa Carriere’s son Alexander…whose in-laws left him to die in his own bed because they had better things to do.

    • SandiCorrena

      You’re so right! I read (devoured) three books on the subject back to back once and found myself depressed – the witty repartee of the bunker truly helped lift me back up! And now I know to take fews day off in between books so that I can digest. Oh and I reccommend to keep napkins nearby because sometimes the lol’s and the beverage you’re drinking go “horribly” wrong….tee hee!

    • cicely neville

      <3, Bury. I second that. You're very welcome, and you will be safe here.

    • monkeyknickers

      You are aglow with smart.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        That isn’t why I am aglow.
        I had beans for lunch yesterday.

        • monkeyknickers

          NOM. Indian beans? Or like . . . chili?

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Refried pintos. yummy

            • monkeyknickers

              That’s uncanny – I have been craving that giant lake (with a shore made of rice) that you get in Mexican restaurants. The parasites don’t want what I initially planned for dinner last night and punished me endlessly into the wee darks. I hate them. They are evil and want me dead.

              I THINK anyway. All the evidence points in that direction.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Feed them beans and they will quit trying to eat their way out.

            • monkeyknickers

              Wullll . . .. . . . . I’ll give it a shot.

              Because this leftover makes me want to hurl.

              BOY IS THIS FUN. I’m the poster child for How Birth Control Can Go Horribly Wrong.

              :)

            • stillgrace

              A couple of days ago, in response to a comment of yours, I answered with a sure-fire method of taking a shower when you are home alone with a baby or babies. I also included a link to some helpful advice for mothers with newborn twins. Disqus, I believe, completely swallowed my reply, as it didn’t post.

              I will repost a little later as I have a meeting in a few.

            • monkeyknickers

              DAMNIT! I need that info grace!!

              And Disqus is RIDICULOUS. Don’t EVEN get me started.

              Yes please, luv! Shower instructions!

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      I had not seen this post of yours, thank you for the ;-) good common sense piece of advice.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Thank you Marie.

  • baddog5623
    • Missionary Kid

      To let people know, this is where the running program (used to?) takes place at Gilman Hot Springs, aka Gold Base. The circle is sand, which is one of the hardest surfaces to run on.

      I went to Google Earth, and it is now covered with sod, but you can see where the sand used to be. They probably are trying to cover it up, because it’s too obvious.

      • ThetaBara

        I have read that they moved the running program circle indoors where no one can see it.
        And also that someone was forced to run (outdoors, in the desert heat for 12 hours a day) until his teeth fell out! I think that was in Wright. Yes, David Mayo. I bloody love kindle’s searchability.

        • Robert Eckert

          A whole floor of the Stupid Powers building is supposed to be dedicated to it (if they ever get SP Bldg open at all, that is).

          • ThetaBara

            Yikes! I wonder what they charge for that!

          • Ciru

            One of those image results is the plans for that floor from Tony’s VV blog.

        • Missionary Kid

          Thanks.

      • stillgrace

        Long ago, I posted evidence here that they even went to the trouble of removing concrete areas, some with benches, from the area surrounding the sand circle.

        There’s even some rare footage caught by videographers during a protest of someone running in the CA desert heat. That’s rare because during protests, the base goes into lockdown. Maybe the guy that was running didn’t hear the call because his ears fell off.

        • Missionary Kid

          I think it’s on one of the Mark Bunker videos.

  • SandiCorrena

    omg Al Roker is playing a game with someone where he had to give them clues to guess a name……Tom Cruise was one and his first clue was “nuts”……..hahahahahahahahahaha!

    • Phil McKraken

      Ha, that’s fun. Remember, Al Roker was there in person when Tom told Matt Lauer he was “glib” and doesn’t know the history of psychiatry. It must have seemed even nuttier than those of to us whose experience of it was mediated by the TV. That kind of crazy is like electricity in the air. I’m surprised it didn’t give Al pneumonia.

  • pronoia

    So so very happy to see that Amy Scobee is lending her support and experience to this effort!!!!

    • 1subgenius

      And every high profile ex needs to contact plaintiff attorneys and offer to help. (I’m looking at Marty and Mike)

  • Dean Blair

    Tony, your reporting just gets better and better all the time.

    • Sherbet

      I’ll second that.

  • Studious Judious

    I would like to say thank you to Tony and other journalists who report on Scientology, to all the lawyers willing to battle the Goliath that is Scientology, and to all the commentators that seem express the emotions felt about this organization, good, bad, funny, and sad.

    This type of activity gives me faith that humans can overcome oppression by banding together.

    • Mark

      If $cientology is really a Goliath, it’s getting a bit bloated these days:

      • cicely neville

        Ha! A picture of a tubby ronophant! Take that to court!

      • Kim O’Brien

        my favorite animal is the Liger ;)

        • stillgrace

          It broke my heart when Hobbs, the male liger at Sierra Safari (near Sparks, NV) passed away. They have a new “little” girl liger now!

          http://www.sierrasafarizoo.org/

      • 1subgenius

        That picture makes me sad.
        But in case you missed it before:
        What do you give an elephant with diarrhea?
        Plenty of room!

        • stillgrace

          Believe it or not, I restrain myself from posting cat memes here almost EVERY single day. I probably have a cat meme for every possible occasion.

          And now that 1subgenius has introduced a bit of humor connected with Mark’s photo, I cannot resist posting this.

          Bear in mind, as you hopefully forgive me, I won’t post another for at least a week. Unless, of course, somebody FATALLY misbehaves here in the bunker, mentions tacos, asks what’s for dinner tonight?, or requests gardening tips. Back to work for me now.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            You said Tacos!

            • stillgrace

              TACOCAT is PALINDROME

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              See what I did there! ;-)

            • Mark

              I know that “I wonder if there’s any intelligence in there?” look; our moggies give it me at least once a week.

          • sister wendy

            love!

          • DodoTheLaser

            I now know who I will be asking about gardening. LOL

            [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/28cj6zm.jpg[/IMG]

            <3 Stillgrace

        • Mark

          I think it might be a picture of a Heffalump, which normally live in burrows and subsist on a diet of fruit buns (pace A.A. Milne).

      • sister wendy

        great pic

        • Captain Howdy

          Sad pic. I hope it’s shooped

          • Mark

            Yes it is – no heffalumps were harmed by being force-fed fruit-buns.

          • stillgrace

            Me, too. I actually searched for evidence of photoshopping online, just so I wouldn’t have to feel sad. At least for now, there’s no indication that this pic is a fake. Maybe Mark knows if it’s a shoop.

            On the other hand, I got a good chuckle when one of my versions of bloated elephant photo yielded as the first hit an article about Kim Kardashian’s extremely swollen feet stuffed into some plexiglass style stillettoes. Ouch! It was ugly and I spared you the photo.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            It is shooped. It is a perfect circle.

          • sister wendy

            I assumed it was- if it’s not- it’s sad….

      • RMycroft

        I always wondered what balloon animals look like when they grow up.

  • Kim O’Brien

    this story is amazing …rarely am i speechless …i think i just peed my pants a little bit . Tony ….you rock

    • Kim O’Brien

      woo hoo ! i got a down vote on a Thursday !!! for peeing my own pants and liking Tony’s work !! That’s right bitches …bow down

      • Robert Eckert

        Davey Downboy AND Debbie Downer are out today!

    • monkeyknickers

      Evidently incontinence is evil. Good to know. :)

  • ze moo

    When trying to put out good pr and trying to show us wogs how ‘charitable’ the CO$ claims NarCONon as its own, then when they could be held liable for NarCONons crimes they claim it isn’t theirs??? WTF?? Only clams have attention spans short enough to both sides of that coin. I am talking about aquatic bivalves here, not humans.

    Wait for the fraud investigation(s) to come to fruition, then the FBI can bring RICO actions against CO$. All NarCONons share ‘best practices’ and billing fraud is very easy. Catching billing fraud isn’t difficult either, all you have to do is look for it. That is the day Miscavige thinks about taking his suitcases full of cash and going to a country that doesn’t have an extradition treaty with the US.

    • Studious Judious

      Am I correct in recalling that the same type of fraud was committed at Narconon GA and Narconon OK. Specifically, the creation of unauthorized credit card accounts? If so, that would seem to imply a conspiracy larger than just the local Narconon office.

      And speaking of Miscavige fleeing with his ill-gotten gains, is there research that indicates just what he can get away with. For example, if he runs off with cash, and is convicted of fraud, what happens to the assets such as Ideal Org property. Can those be seized by the court?

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        If the buildings CAN be seized, I reckon they should be made into homes for people who aren’t fortunate enough to have one, or hospitals, or something that does some actual good for humanity.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          We already called dibs on SuperPowerz building to be the “Miscavige Hospital for the Criminally Insane”!

      • ze moo

        Corporate $cientology owns the real estate, if CO$ is convicted or held liable for anything (including its grand high poobah, Dave Miscavige), all its property would be at risk. I doubt that CO$ would allow real estate to be seized by any courts action, they have enough cash on hand to pay off pretty much any judgement.

        I don’t recall credit card fraud being an issue at NarCONon Oklahoma. At least, not yet. Given 57 US locations for NarCONon, I expect them to share billing secrets and frauds. Screwing any health insurance company is an invitation to a state attorney general investigation. If two state attorneys general compare notes, the FBI could be brought in. National attention into NarCONon is the last thing Miscavige wants.

        • Studious Judious

          Thanks ze moo. I remember watching one of Mark Bunker’s videos from the Portland Org where he asked a certain lady in charge about the ownership of the property, and she indicates that it was not owned by CoS Corp. Of course I doubt her statement, but I wonder if someone has compiled a list of Ideal Orgs, and just exactly who the property deed is registered to. Does anyone have this info?

          • ThetaBara

            That was Gwen Bernard, who is an OSA mucktey muck. She was claiming that the Portland Org owns its own building. That was a fascinating interview!

  • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

    Exhibit K is the one I’m betting 10 bucks on ;-)

  • Vistaril

    Hmmmm . . . tricky one, ain’t it? The suit Jeff Harris and crew are lining up is exactly the sort of thing Scientology envisaged when doing its corporate sort-out back in the 1980s. As I understand it, RTC exists only to license and oversee the use of Scientology’s “intellectual property” which, in turn, is owned by another organisation, The Church Of Spiritual Technology” trading as the L Ron Hubbard Library. Clouding the issue, and deliberately so, is the role of the IAS. The IAS was set up on L Ron Hubbard’s instructions, according to Denise (Larry) Brennan, in 1984 to obfuscate L Ron Hubbard’s decade’s long personal inurement and his cult’s exposure to further tax liabilities. On paper, it has nothing to do with the management of Scientology, same with RTC and CST. The management of Scientology is apparently the function of some outfit known as the Church of Scientology International, headed by Prisoner President Heber Jentzsch.

    So, when Chairman of the Board of Trustees of RTC, David Miscavige, who’s role is to oversee the licensing of the intellectual property, boasts about Narconon to the IAS, is that Federal Court-standard evidence of his control of the day-today functioning of the licencees? Does the material prior to the 1982 corporate sort out still apply today? The Clear Expansion Comittee documents issued by CSI, but authorised by AVC International, make no mention of RTC. Is the fact that Narconon’s materials come from RTC surprising since RTC administers the licensing of the “intellectual property”? Put another way, if I get food poisoning and die as a result of eating a contaminated BigMac, does that mean McDonald’s HQ is liable? IANAL, but I reckon there’s a hard row to hoe in making those sorts of connections stand up in court. From a pessimistic perspective, I see a potential legal quagmire ahead which, if it becomes a battlefield, could result in another 100 year war.

    On the other hand, it is painstakingly obvious, that Heber Jentzsch or his (as of March 24, 2008) agent Jeanne M. Gavigan have had nothing to do with Scientology’s official representations both within and outside of the cult since at least 1992. From an optimistic perspective, David Miscavige could well have blown his cover due to his endemic narcicism. It was David Miscavige (along with Marty Rathbun) who secured the IRS agreement, it was Miscavige who made the official announcement, it was David Miscavige who allowed himself to be described as the “head of Scientology” in the February 14, 1992 interview by Ted Koppel, its David Miscavige who opens every new Idle Morgue, its David Miscavige who hands out the medals, its David Miscavige to whom every Scilon “on this planet” reverentially accords leader status, and its David Miscavige who, on the cult’s own website, is described as “ecclesiastical leader”. (Scilon site, condoms on) In fact, the site goes on to say . . .

    ” . . . In that capacity [ecclesiastical leader]], Mr. Miscavige has redefined the term “religious leader” to fit the tasks necessary to direct a truly unique, contemporary religion—a religion born in the twentieth century, which has achieved an unprecedented level of expansion in the twenty-first century, including some 10,000 Churches, Missions and affiliated groups across 165 nations.

    Under Mr. Miscavige’s stewardship, Scientology-supported social betterment and humanitarian programs have touched the lives of billions. Mr. Hubbard’s religious works are more widely available than ever and the Church has achieved unprecedented growth both in physical size and in the reach of its ministry . . . “

    (Emphasis mine)

    Still, the labyrinthine corporate structure along with the chinese walls, semantic gymnastics, cut-outs, and attorney-client priviledge, not to mention its propensity for ciminal acts, remains Scientology’s final and hugely frustrating buttress. So far as the Court of Public Opinion is concerned, the verdict is already in; all we are waiting on is for the hangman to turn up. I mean, take a look at this video of Mike Rinder’s address to the 2004 IAS event. In a glorious paroxysm of Shermanspeak, Rinder provides an excruciating blizzard of stunning statistics and dazzling details concerning Scientology’s front groups “Social Betterment Programmes” including Applied Scholastics, The Way To Happiness, Criminon and Narconon. First mention of Narconon comes at 3:50 into the vid, shortly before Rinder spells out an upcoming PR offensive . . .

    . . .” . . . Just as we have done with travelling “What Is Scientology” exhibits traveling LRH exhibits, we are rolling out an exhibition that presents all the LRH solutions used by Narconon, Criminon, Applied Scholastics, and the Way To Happiness, and that’s our new IAS sponsored campaign: an ABLE world solutions exhibition to bring LRH tech right into the governments of Earth. We are going to bring our new exhibit right to the capitals of major cities and states around the world and show them our programmes. The displays include our international facilities, the real solutions, how and why they work and the statistics and results of Narconon, Applied Scholastics, the Way to Happiness, and Criminon. It shows just what we can do to solve the problems confronted by officials around the world. This exhibit includes audio-visual presentations on what these programmes mean in terms of results and lives saved. The exhibition is also about getting them to do themselves [sic] and that’s why we’ll be conducting seminars on the implementation of our programmes in each location right at the exhibit. ABLE will take this exhibit to key cities across the globe beginning in January. A new city every two weeks – Washington DC . . . [delete long list of places I can't spell] . . . New Dehli in India, 26 cities in all, and we are timing them to coincide with regional and international conferences like the gathering of US mayors and the heads of the EU countries so by going to those cities we will reach officials from more than 80 nations . . .

    Case closed? Alas, not yet. Its tempting sometimes to agree with L Ron Hubbard’s scripture regarding wog justice. However, it is for the protection of us all, and much to our credit, that we insist even the most base criminal be given a fair trial. Was it here or on some other site where I read a statement from someone who knows about these things: “If you have an open and shut case, you have a 70% percent chance in court”. There’s a long way to go with this but I’m liking Jeff Harris more and more. My thanks and best wishes to you, sir.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-G53mNhCTI&feature=share&list=PL5E7DDEB8E82CD268

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      I won’t touch another Sciloon site ever again. Last time I did I had to re-install the OS on my computer. Found some nasty little presents in there……. It ain’t condoms you need, it’s a full bleaching afterwards, followed by immersion in a pit of fire and finally a bath in angel tears to scrub the evil out of the motherboard……………..

      • stillgrace

        Oh yeah. Note to Newcomers: Beware of scientology sites. I had to bleach my MAC. And I still get a weird pop-up that asks for personal info when I try to comment at the Tampa Bay Times.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          It was 2 years ago, the computer was new, and the whole thing prompted me to switch to Linux. They don’t seem to be as able to fiddle with the kernel as with Windows ;-)

          • DodoTheLaser

            I knew some scientologists who are serious Linux geeks.

            They are lurkers now, understandably. Real smart guys.
            Just a lot of family members still involved.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Those are the probably the guys they should have had working on their computer systems ;-) hope that they can reconnect with their family members once this is over. And I’m thinking that’s going to be a lot sooner than anyone thinks ;-)

            • DodoTheLaser

              They are still in, officially that is. Their families are intact.

              It would be nice for me to reconnect with them and for my son with their kids.
              And I hope it will happen soon too. Thanks.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Any time. I’ll even give you some De-programmer Robot Monkeys to help everyone out and re-adjust to reality ;-)

      • Sherbet

        I’m beginning to be a little leery of being here in the Bunker. At one time, the VV and the Bunker probably weren’t worth the cult’s time and attention to monitor closely. But now that Tony is a Big Being in the scientology expose genre, I’m not so sure. Most of us continue to hide behind pseudonyms, and I applaud those who post here under their real names.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          The good news these days is, we out number them!
          They simply don’t have the resources to do what they used to be capable of doing.
          The internet is absolutely without a doubt, killing the cult.

          That doesn’t mean if they decide to target someone they won’t do some real ugly damage.

          • Sherbet

            Oh, you had to throw in that last sentence, huh, Bury?? If Tony isn’t nervous, then I guess we shouldn’t be, either.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Don’t worry Sherbet, In the big scheme of things I think we snarky blog commenter’s out on the fringes of the internet are the least of Dave’s current woes.

            • Sherbet

              Yes, Bury, who reads anything out here on the inconsequential “fringes of the internet,” anyway. Still laughing about that one.

            • Captain Howdy

              They’re not after Tony’s commentators..they’re after Tony. And I’m sure he has some tales to tell, eventually.

        • Captain Howdy

          I wouldn’t sweat it. I’ve been doing this since 2008 and I’ve given vaLLarrr and other scilons more than enough clues as to who my sister is that if they wanted to dox me and come after they could have long ago. All they got left is squirrel cams, fat sleazy P.I’s and slime sites that no one reads except other scilons.

          • Sherbet

            OK, thanks, I feel a bit better now. Plus I have no pets.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          I’m willing to strip my moniker off. They wouldn’t bother with me anyways, I’m well out of any major Australian city and have no presence whatsoever in the town I live in. They would get drummed out by bikers if they tried.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            I’m seriously nobody to them, I just read a lot online and have a good detective brain ;-)

            • Sherbet

              Do you have pets??

      • Once_Born

        Sandboxie http://www.sandboxie.com/ is a program that enables you to visit untrustworthy sites without any lasting unpleasantness.

        Linux is cool too. Try Ubuntu for starters.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Running 12.04.2 ;-) I always say bloody Linux I need to stop doing it :-P

    • 1subgenius

      Nothing to add to that, but thanks to you for taking the time to think. Its, as Emerson said, the hardest work of all, and that’s why so few of us engage in it.
      Jeff and company are doing some heavy lifting here.

  • Jefferson Hawkins

    Scientology wants to have their cake and eat it too. When asked what earthly good the “Church” does in their communities, they fall all over themselves to talk about Narconon. But if something goes wrong at a Narconon facility, they “scatter like cockroaches” (love that phrase) and claim they have nothing to do with it.

    I personally tagged along once in late 2004 when David Miscavige went on an “executive inspection” of ABLE, screaming and threatening as usual, and believe me, the ABLE execs were snapping to attention so fast they had whiplash. It was all “yes Sir, yes Sir, anything you say Sir!!”

    In the marketing department, we were heavily involved in designing and producing Narconon’s materials. The Cine Division of Gold made all their ads and videos. And once when I was doing manual labor out at the “Pac Ranch,” we (a bunch of Sea Org Members being “corrected”) were tasked with doing a feasability study for establishing a Narconon there, and doing a presentation to the local land use board.

    I could go on and on, as could any Sea Org Member. Narconon is Scientology, and is run by David Miscavige.

    • Studious Judious

      Thanks for being here Jeff. Your book was an amazing read. Quite frightening actually. It reminds me of history class when I was told that the allies didn’t win WW2 as much as the axis powers lost it. In many ways I am glad that Miscavige is at the helm of this sinking ship. In the hands of people more able than he it might truly be something to reckon with.

      • ze moo

        WW2 was won by the allies because the winter of 41-42 was so cold and the German army wasn’t prepared for it. That was perhaps Hitler’s greatest mistake, thinking he could conquer Russia in 6 months and not have to fight in the winter. From then on the Russians won the war of production and they outnumbered the Wehrmacht too. The Germans continued to field superior equipment in tanks and aircraft, they were simply outnumbered by the Russians.

        Miscavige was good at intimidation and black pr, but those tactics don’t work anymore. Hide-able cameras and the internet are his downfall.

    • Simi Valley

      In 1990 when I was a public volunteer working on a project for Narconon International, the ABLE execs were all over us – giving orders, demanding compliance reports. ABLE, of course, is a Sea Org unit controlled by Miscavige.

    • 1subgenius

      Please contact plaintiff attorneys and offer to help.

      • InTheNameOfXenu

        Yes I second that motion.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    So……any word about the judge switch?

    • 1subgenius

      Wouldn’t expect anything significant. Happens all the time. Judge could know one of the attorneys on a social basis, for instance.

  • sizzle8

    Miscavige’s absolute control of all the corporate entities is thoroughly documented by himself. When was the last time any Int management people were at an ideal org opening? Or at an event? Or at a graduation? Or visited any org?

    I hope they depose all the fictional Board members of RTC, Narconon, ABLE, COS, etc. The minutes of their mandatory annual meetings should also be included. All RTC programs should be demanded as well as all AVC logs. Trying to do damage control to show that Miscavige and RTC are not management is way too late.

    Denise/Larry Brennan’s ebook, “The Miscavige Legal Statements: A Study in Perjury, Lies and Misdirection” is essential reading. http://larrybren.blogspot.com/

  • Dean Fox

    The question is the Federal Court an idiot or will it be able to comprehend this argument and realise the corporate structure exists only to fool idiots.

    • 1subgenius

      From what I’ve read this judge is no idiot.
      And doesn’t touch shit even with gloves on.
      He once insisted on being given a ticket for speeding rather than get preferential treatment.

  • stateofcircle

    Sorry for the OTP, but just wanted to see if anyone else got tickets to The TomKat Project for the Wednesday show?

    • q-bird

      oh! i wish – i wish ! am i turning green right before your eyes?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        sighs….ditto

  • Jgg2012

    There are many reasons to emphasize Davey’s total control. It means the mother Church and its billions can be liable for the damages of the local Narconons (ie pierce the corporate veil); that Davey can be deposed; that Davey is subject to jurisdiction in GA (and OK, and the Netherlands, wherever); that Scientology is a business, not a religion; that Scientology, with its corporate shells, is dishonest and Davey should not be believed; that, because Davey has complete control, Scientology should not have tax-exempt status–when a billionaire starts a non-profit, he has a board of directors run it and by laws.

  • 1subgenius

    Plaintiff’s have produced more than enough for the Motion to Dismiss to be denied.
    Let the perjury begin!

  • SP ‘Onage

    How bout using Tom Cruise as Exhibit FFnutty.

    Depose Tom Cruise. He claims that his religion has the only successful drug treatment program in the world.

    Tom Cruise Drug Crusader

    In the U.S., Tom Cruise makes headlines because he’s found a new girlfriend, a 26 year old actress named Katie Holmes. In Europe, at least in Germany, the headline is that Cruise has brought Scientology onto the movie set of the new Spielberg film, War of the Worlds, and brags about how many drug addicts he’s cured with his religion – and, astonishingly, claims that his religion has the only successful drug treatment program in the world.

    From a Der Speigel interview with Cruise and Spielberg:

    SPIEGEL: Do you see it as your job to recruit new followers for Scientology?

    Cruise: I’m a helper. For instance, I myself have helped hundreds of people get off drugs. In Scientology, we have the only successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. It’s called Narconon.

    SPIEGEL: That’s not correct. Yours is never mentioned among the recognized detox programs. Independent experts warn against it because it is rooted in pseudo science.

    Cruise: You don’t understand what I am saying. It’s a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period.

    SPIEGEL: With all due respect, we doubt that. Mr. Cruise, you made studio executives, for example from Paramount, tour Scientology’s “Celebrity Center” in Hollywood. Are you trying to extend Scientology’s influence in Hollywood?

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2005/04/30/641/02676/media/Tom-Cruise-Drug-Crusader

    • John P.

      I can just imagine this quote being used to justify a subpoena for Tom Cruise to appear. Of course, that leads, on the stand, to a re-working of that famous scene in “A Few Good Men.” Here, Tommy in his Sea Org fake navy uniform with his Freedom Medal of Valor fake medal around his neck responding to Jeff Harris’ admonition to “please just tell us the truth” by bellowing, “You can’t handle the truth!” Oh, the lulz!

      • SP ‘Onage

        LOL! :D

      • Jgg2012

        John, the best thing about him is his close relationship with Davey.

      • Captain Howdy

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          The center tooth is like a headlight in this picture.

          • Captain Howdy

            Nosferatu

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Eeeeeeewwwww!

            • Mark

              If only they were dentures…

            • Sherbet

              I think I’m going to refer to TC’s teeth as: Nosferatooth.

    • Sherbet

      Awesomeness times 2: (1) TC running off his mouth and putting the defendants’ lies in jeopardy, and (2) Der Spiegel’s reporter being gutsy enough to challenge TC’s boast.

      • SP ‘Onage

        Those German’s are tough! :)

        • Sherbet

          TC should check under his shoe. I think he really stepped into something with that interview.

          • SP ‘Onage

            Yep. Life is not like a box of chocolates. It’s more like a jar of jalapenos: what you say in the past can burn your ass tomorrow!

            • Sherbet

              Ha! Burn, Tommy, burn!

      • ThetaBara

        You’ve gotta love “with all due respect, we doubt that.”

    • RMycroft

      “Cruise: You don’t understand what I am saying. It’s a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period.”

      I hate arguing with people that have the wired-in assumption that if you disagree with them, then you don’t understand. It’s incredibly arrogant and obnoxious, and you’re not allowed to slap them every time they say it.

      • MissCandle

        Unless you’re Shortie.

        • RMycroft

          I think he skips a few steps and preemptively slaps people, just in case.

      • sister wendy

        yes- “you don’t understand” and/or “you’re stamping on my religious beliefs, you bigot”

      • ThetaBara

        The fucking anarchists do this as well. They also redefine words to mean what they want them to mean and then try to “logic” you into agreeing with all of their bullshitness. It’s total cultie behavior.

      • Sherbet

        Man, you said it, RMycroft! It’s a veiled insult, that the listener is too dumb to understand the jewels of wisdom falling from the speaker’s lips.

      • Mark

        Conceited little prick.

      • Bella Legosi

        You know you are getting somewhere when they pull out the “You just don’t understand” line. They have now come to the point of the discussion where they no longer can act as an apologist! When that happens in print it is great! Shows the reader that that they are fully capable of being annoying and obnoxious!

    • N. Graham

      Sounds like Der Spiegel is a pretty glib magazine. WHO do they think they are, challenging a famous movie actor about the most successful drug rehab in the world? Isn’t it obvious that TC, being a famous movie actor, would know more about drug rehabs than the largest circulation magazine in Europe?

      • Nevermore

        Indeed. After all, he KNOWS!

  • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

    I gotta go shred some Zoanoids. Peace be with you all till I get back, then you might want to break out the hard liquor. :-D

  • stateofcircle

    I wonder how many good ideas the Sciloon lawyers get from the comments here. Since it’s been proven that they scour every comment through their Culkin shenanigans, there’s no doubt in my mind that many of the solid points and arguments made here by the diverse, insightful and intelligent Bunkerites gives them ideas, brings up points they may not have thought of, and gives them insight into the opposition with which to prepare. I don’t know how significant it really ends up being or if it makes a serious impact either way, but I definitely think it’s a huge resource.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      You bet it is. But it cuts both ways!

      • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

        It depends on how persuasive they can be with Little Boots that he’ll let them use whatever helpful information they get from forums like this. My guess is that they’ll tell him they came up with the strategies in question, and that he’ll turn them down because he didn’t think of them himself.

    • ThetaBara

      I’m sure they do. You can actually see the cult shift strategy seemingly in response to internet talk. I don’t think there’s much that can be done about it – and since they actually ARE toxic and evil and doing all of the things they’ve been accused of (and then some) it seems to me they will not prevail anyhow.

  • DeElizabethan

    Bravo to Jeff Harris and all his delicious exhibits. Such good meat. Can’t wait for the meal to be over and we can have some caek. Meanwhile to enjoy what the truth delivers.

    Jonny Jacobsen Does It Again: Yea!

    • sister wendy

      yes for cake!

  • MissCandle

    I used to investigate corporate control issues that sometimes involved creative corporate structures including holding companies and sister companies (including shells and off-shore). IMHO, the exhibits will prove to the judge that Shortie controls everything in the S-Lying-Tology structure including Narconon b/c: (1) Shortie appoints, or is involved in appointing, directors and managers for the various parts within the structures, (2) Shortie is directly involved in the management of Narconon and the other parts because of his ability to approve day-to-day practices and because he receives reports on status, progress, exceptions, and problems; (3) the exhibits show that Shortie has had this control over management and operations for a very long period of time including up to the present day; and (4) the money flows up. BTW, I am not an attorney.

    • Jgg2012

      Right, and is he doesn’t control ABLE and NARCONON, they should not have had tax exempt status for the past 20 years. The IRS agreement alone may estop Scientology from denying a connection.

    • Gerard Plourde

      “BTW, I am not an attorney.”

      You’re even better. You’re the expert witness an attorney would call to explain the structure to the judge and/or jury to make the case.

  • 0tessa

    Miscavige is (in)directly responsible for the deaths of Narconon. Rest to proof he is also accountable. That shouldn’t be too difficult considering all these exhibits. I sincerely hope he goes to jail.

  • monkeyknickers

    Phew that’s a lot legalness. But in a good way (I think)

    I would be a terrible lawyer. My motions would look like:

    Case 1:13-cv-02217-SCJ Document 19 Filed 07/23/13 Page 1

    Dear Judge,

    What they’re requesting is obviously bullshit, and if you can’t recognize that then I have that much less hope for humanity.

    From,

    Monkeyknickers

    • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

      You just need a strong case. Although it’s in a reply to a letter from a lawyer, the following is repeated endlessly in the UK satirical magazine “Private Eye”

      “We acknowledge your letter of 29th April referring to Mr J. Arkell. We
      note that Mr Arkell’s attitude to damages will be governed by the nature
      of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform us
      what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the nature
      of our reply is as follows: fuck off.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurring_in-jokes_in_Private_Eye#Euphemistic_expressions

      • monkeyknickers

        I love it. I do better with one syllable words. :)

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    Bravo for the lawyers in the narCONon case. I do hope they will find it easier to include more plaintiffs now it’s a federal case.

    Sue Wilhere must by now rue the day she repeated the words of David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige. Oh well.

  • N. Graham

    Kirstie Alley must not have been very well known, they spell her name Kirsty in Exhibit C.

    It seems like they liked to use the little c after Scientology (©) back in the day or r (®), like someone’s going to steal the name. And capitalizing SCIENTOLOGY was big then too.

    Jeopardy question yesterday, fill in the blank-”The Modern Science of Modern Health” book title.

    Anybody want to help me form a Clear Expansion Committee in Michigan? How about a Gung-Ho group? An Auditor’s Association? C’mon, it’ll be fun!

  • 10oriocookies

    [URL=http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/sA-10isabmf/media/Already%20uploaded/scan0132_zps7d0f0068.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a608/sA-10isabmf/Already%20uploaded/scan0132_zps7d0f0068.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    • 10oriocookies

      They should use this one also. Its from COB to Gary Smith at Arrowhead

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Ouch!

    • Studious Judious

      “Very well done to all you and your staff!” (face palm)

      • DodoTheLaser

        “Here’s to the stars!” (triple face palm).

    • Studious Judious

      Looks like he signed his name “Daivd”

  • Sillygurl

    How awesome would it be if Tiny Fists was compelled to testify? He would probably run away first. Bastard

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I was thinking the same thing. The thought of having to step foot in a courtroom may be the only thing that makes the tiny terror cut and run.

    • monkeyknickers

      I so relish that thought. If Lindsey Lohan hasta, then this shmuck has to . . . too. :)

  • Lori

    My mother was mistreated, lied to, abused, money stolen from her, and they are now trying Insurance frud with her insurance….
    at “A Forever Recovery” in Battle Creek, MI…..can we sue?

  • 0tessa

    “… the Narconon program as part of its goal to expand the reach of Scientology and “clear the planet” of non-Scientologists …”

    This quote seems to contain a little mistake. It is not the goal of Scientology Inc to clear the planet of non-Scientologists. It could be that secretly that’s what they really want, but the goal as such is ‘to clear the planet’, meaning, everybody gotten rid of his reactive mind (if there is such a thing …).
    A mere technicality.

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      No, no, no : the goal is to clear the cash in all bank accounts in the world through the wash and dry process of brainwashing all humans. A grand ambition based on lies, bullying, theft and as I call it murder.

    • Ciru

      To become clear, you have to become a Scilon first so a cleared planet would have no non-Scilons.

      • 0tessa

        Not necessarily. You can become ‘clear’ and then leave the cult. Even as a non-Scientologist you can be clear. I know some examples personally …

  • HelluvaHoax!

    There is a beautifully profound irony and cosmic justice factor in how the lawsuits (e.g. Class Action vs Narconnon/RTC, Garcia, et al) are unfolding in 2013. Miscavige has had three (3) decades of unchecked dictatorial control of Scientology’s empire. Further bolstering his unassailable position are three factors: 1) Religious Cloaking; 2) Fair Game tactics of destruction/deception; 3) A billion dollar legal war chest.

    The very same factor that has entirely frustrated persons seeking recourse vs. Scientology are now reversed and poised to trigger its legal collapse. In other words, Scientology’s greatest strength is also its greatest weakness and point of vulnerability. The fact that Scientology has been able to sustain decades of insulation from legal attacks has lead to Miscavige’s supremely arrogant sense of entitlement and imperviousness. Once he saw that he had the IRS blessing to use religion as subterfuge and protection(s), he ran with it at full speed. Each year that COB/RTC “got away with it”, he was further emboldened to unleash ever-increasing levels of aggression against his critics and even his own staff and parishioners.

    That Scientology was so cleverly and thoroughly “cloaked” and insulated from attacks gave rise to decades of trampling those legal fictions (e.g. corporate structure, autonomy of Scientology front groups/entities, et al) and now hundreds of witnesses and tens of thousands of documents exist to give devastating impeachment of RTC’s/COB’s now crippled and meaningless claim that Narconon or IAS or SuperPower or Ideal Org (or other money-scheme fronts) are not under the exclusive and domineering control of Miscavige, alone.

    The fact that in his unbridled hubris Miscavige was allowed to run roughshod over every conceivable legal fiction for decades is simply a very long fuse to nuclear device that is inside corporate Scientology’s own underground bunker.

    This is the payoff for having long-witnessed and suffered Miscavige’s grinning reign of terror. With every sociopathic blow he dealt to others, he created one more “Exhibit” for the avalanche of legal attacks that are now coming home to roost.

    Scientology: It’s almost over, enjoy the show.

    • Poison Ivy

      Cannot happen too soon for my taste. Use the warchest to pay back the injured exes and Sea Org survivors, then give the rest to the government. Stick a fork in COB, he’s done.

    • DodoTheLaser

      What a cool post! Thanks for popping in here, HH!
      Please, do it more often, ESMB will be just fine! :)

      • Bella Legosi

        Please tell me that is your cute mug in that AV!! :)

        • DodoTheLaser

          Yeah, just don’t tell anyone. :) Thanks.

          • Bella Legosi

            *zips up mouth* huh whaaaat? What are we talking about? :)

            You are a cutie! I am sure your wife already knows that by now tho :P I hear I was an adorable kid. Apparently, old ladies would give me money for just being cute! They would give me a dollar and tell my mom to “put it in her piggy bank!” lol I have two of the most adorable, beautiful, and greatest nieces EVER! I can only hope I breed kids just as beautiful!

            • DodoTheLaser

              :) :) :)

  • Robert Eckert

    New post up!

  • Jgg2012

    http://www.scientologynews.org/david-miscavige.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-MhRVj-zAo

    Scientology sponsors Narconon. Miscavige refers to it as “we”. He is the Church leader. ’nuff said. btw, Narconon was thrown out of Oklahoma in the early ’90s. How did it return?

    • Bella Legosi

      Tom also cites Criminon in the infamous video. “We are the authority of people getting off drugs……criminon…..rehabilitating criminals….”

  • Schockenawd

    Well, so much for “Not One Thin Nickel for Benjamin Bickle.” Okay, so the Plaintiff’s name is Burgess, not Bickle, but I needed something that rhymed, so I took some poetic license. I throw myself on the mercy of the blog. The point is, the Church tends to fold when faced with having to respond in court to solid evidence of the sham nature of the incestuous soup that is Scientology. And when it folds, justice gets done.

    • dagobarbz

      Largesse, Burgess, close. Could work.

  • Sarah James

    How does Dr. David Miscavige feel about this?

  • Bella Legosi

    Wow……so I click on the link to read this post…….and look what popped up? I am sure the computer I am using sucks most balls but wow…….http://www.drugrehabcenter.com/?keyword=narconon

    I must say……I love when DOX is the first word in the post title!

    • DeElizabethan

      Went to this link, called the 800 # talked with a girl in FL. Doesn’t know about or have connection to narConon and says nothing to do with Sci. Was a nice girl and told her to look up and find out about it since she may get calls. Told her the Freedom word was what made me think it was scio. I filled her ear nicely.

      • Sherbet

        You rock, De!

        • Bella Legosi

          Yes. She most definately does R O C K! I think I may have to name my next pet child after her! I still want to name 2 puppies Ruby and Oswald just so I can point out how well they get along lol

      • Bella Legosi

        Thank you Dee. Just after I posted this and the second comment I had to go in for a busted tooth!
        When I posted that link I thought of all those referral websites that Luke talked about Co$ running to funnel people into NarCONon!

        Uncle Cosmo is taking a serious dump on me! lol Any hard core kool aid drinkers are prolly thinking that is what I get for all the J&D I do! Nope, just a poor girl with no dental, who hasn’t had dental in like 7 years!

        Ohhhhh maybe they will gas me and I can come up with my own religion! Make some serious money and use that to wage a war with Co$!!!!! Who wants to join Bella’s “church”? Must have respect for Castiel and Lenny Bruce! All donations will be directed to The Underground Bunker! Bella won’t charge admission!

        Ok…..sorry got sidetracked!

  • Bella Legosi

    Soooo…….what are the requirements to remove a tax exempt, 501 (c), “charitable”, “religious” organization?

    IRS I think there is a lawyer in GA you MUST talk to damn it! Come on! The government could use all that cult money to fund Obama Care! Since I am a poor person, I like OC! Do it!

  • Richie

    Jeff Harris is doing a bang-up job. Even if this new briefing fails to establish the RTC connection within the Georgia court, it’s a solid foundation on which other lawyers can build for future cases.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Agreed. Also, I love that picture of Jeff Harris and two other guys!
      They look like really good guys from some famous classic rock band!
      I’m sentimental like that, sorry. Wishing them all win after win after win!

      • Richie

        No, you’re right. It’s an unusually cool picture for a lawyer and his team (or clients?).

        • DodoTheLaser

          Exactly! Thank you, Richie!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Deep Purple – Above And Beyond (Now What Album 2013)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEODpuU77ZM

  • USA MRIID

    “…31 exhibits of Scientology’s own publications and internal documents…”

    Watch the insane crooks demand that filing such documents is a violation of their copyrights. The insane dwarf has done that before, claimed that court documents entered by victims of Scientology’s racketeering crimes must be stricken from the record because they’re copyrighted.

    As if every organized crime syndicate gets to have documentary evidence showing their core criminality are inadmissible because they’re copyrighted.

    I should add that the frothingly insane Scientology cunt Helena Kobrin repeatedly claimed *trademark* violation against a.r.s participants when the insane fuck meant copyrights. These Scientology buttfucks aren’t the brightest cult loons on the planet, after all.

  • Bella Legosi

    Sorry if this has been pointed out or not but something struck me while I was reading……..bear with me guys Bella isn’t operating on all of her feisty cylinders tonight!

    So, $cientology or Dianutty is a religion/religious. There was a time during Dianutty where those processes were not OKed by the FDA. In regards to $cientology the Emeter is also not cleared to diagnose diseases. What struck me was if any lawyer would be able to point out that L Ron had a serious history claiming to “cure” what ailes you, but those “cures” not being cleared by any agency (kinda why he had to start a cult) and that real scientific research into his methods prove there is nothing scientific about $cientology……so why should an entity like NarCONon be able to get away with applying begining “tech”? I know they claim that they are NOT affiliated with Co$ (bullshit!) and love to taut the line, “We utitilize L Ron philosopy, not the religion.” But, the philosophy is being applied to treat a DISEASE as in the case with NarCONon!

    Sorry if that point wasn’t articulated well! Kinda fighting a migraine and waiting for meds to kick in…….but really my point is Hub’s “tech” has been attacked to the point where $cions can not do a stress test on the street because it is basically treating a disease……..why hasn’t the FDA come down on NarCONon for doing the same thing? I do not recall seeing or reading that those in NarCONon use the cans, and I may have just answered my own question with that statement, but they still apply a discredited method.

    • shasha40

      Your points are exactly what I don’t understand. We have these agencies in place for this type of regulation and monitoring , how are entities that “care” for people able to practice medicine with no licensing or training ? Guess I’ll open a butcher shop and see how often the FDA inspects …

      • Bella Legosi

        Oh the FDA IMO are a bunch of greedy Vogons! I really didn’t find them at all helpful and really came to distrust them when I read “Fast Food Nation”.

        It’s nice to know that I am not the only one confounded when it comes to some made up, “religous” “tech”, that isn’t even approved to diagnose/treat illness and disease, treat illness and disease!

        That would be like the Catholics opening up a rehab and giving the patients the Euchirist and Confession as treatments! I know they would never do that but still. Its one of those times where $cientology claims this “isnt religion”! God, I HATE THAT!

        • shasha40

          Especially when it’s obvious they’re Not doing alot of the oversight it should to protect the public. Just smoke and mirrors to distract…

  • Bella Legosi

    what in the fuck happened to Disqus home site???????? It’s all changed! This is why I hate taking a day off! Where the hell do I log in??? I swear Uncle Cosmo is gonna get a nasty prayer tonight!!!

    • sister wendy

      Ha- I thought it was just me….

      • Bella Legosi

        :)
        Nope! You are not alone mah lady!

  • Bella Legosi

    “….the church is following its usual strategy, and in several motions to dismiss filed on July 12, denied that Scientology’s top entity, RTC, had anything to do with the Narconon network.”—-I wonder if authority’s have found emails from RTC in communication with NarCONon regarding cash flow, stats, or influencing them to get as many as they can into an org when “counseling” is over. I read that the success rates of 75% are really those who have continued with the $cientology after leaving their “treatment”. Go figure! I would stay clean too if I was mind fucked and subjected to Hubs lie detector!