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Love in the Time of Miscavige

For years, she worked closely with Scientology’s leaders, David and Shelly Miscavige. And she was there when it all went wrong.

By Tony Ortega

The RTC Building at Int Base

The RTC Building at Int Base

We have a very unusual story for you today, and in order to tell it, we need to adopt some unusual conventions.

Not only are most of the sources for our story not going to be named, neither are we going to identify the main subjects of this tale, a young couple working in Scientology’s “Sea Org.” Before writing about them, however, we obtained eyewitness accounts from multiple sources who each corroborated the others. It’s not our preference to use unnamed sources, but in this case we had no other way of telling this story, which we consider an important one about Scientology’s secretive International Base. — T.O.

 
The young woman had a front-row seat for the dispute between COB and COB’s Assistant.

And when all hell broke loose, the young woman — and her marriage — became collateral damage.

Until COB turned on COB’s Assistant, the young woman had enjoyed, more or less, her stressful job serving the upper management at Scientology’s exclusive International Base.

Int Base is on 500 acres of land about 90 miles east of Los Angeles. It’s a small world unto itself, where not only is the public never allowed in, even most Scientologists never set foot inside its razor-wired fences, and hear nothing about what goes on there.

The few hundred church employees who live at the base generally live in fear of the man who rules the place as his fiefdom.

He is Scientology leader David Miscavige, a diminutive man who is referred to as “COB” by his employees, for “Chairman of the Board.”

His wife, Shelly Miscavige, was known by the formal title “COB’s Assistant.”

As the title implies, she was not only Miscavige’s spouse, she was also a formidable executive in her own right. Both of them were at the top of Scientology’s “Sea Organization,” the church’s hardcore worker corps, made up of fanatical believers who had each signed billion-year contracts to serve Scientology, lifetime after lifetime.

The Sea Org is not for the faint of heart. Instructions tend to get screamed. Punishments are harsh. The food tends to be lousy, the living quarters can lack privacy. Sea Org members live in fear of fouling up or in some way losing favor with their superiors.

But no executive was more feared, more capricious, more irrational, than Miscavige himself.

So, by comparison, Shelly couldn’t help appearing less rash, more compassionate, more reasonable.

The young woman served both of them. She was a steward, one of numerous Sea Org members who had joined the corps very young — in her early teens — and now lived at the beck and call of her superiors. Most of her family were also Scientologists, but she didn’t get to see them very often.

She did whatever was necessary to please Miscavige. Mostly having to do with meals, serving at his table. And also bringing him things while with him on his frequent trips around the world.

Like other Sea Org members, she had married young. Marrying young is often the only way that Sea Org officials can get any privacy. Members who are single live in all-male or all-female dorms, often with four or more people to a room.

The young woman had married another Sea Org member (of course, there was no other way), and she loved him. He was not only a Scientologist, he was a by-the-book Sea Org lifer. He was the type who would never question “command intention” — whatever it was that Miscavige wanted done, and done now.

They had met at “Flag,” Scientology’s spiritual headquarters in Clearwater, Florida and had married there. At that time, Miscavige was using Flag as his own headquarters because the church was engaged in a court fight in Florida over the death of a parishioner, Lisa McPherson, which had happened several years earlier. The young woman was promoted and began working with Miscavige there, and when he eventually returned to Int Base in California the young woman went with him.

Her husband stayed at Flag.

The separation was difficult for them, but at least with the young woman working directly for COB — and the prestige that brought inside the church — she had opportunities for an occasional trip to Florida to spend time with her husband. It wasn’t ideal. But this was the Sea Org.

For several years, the young woman went everywhere that Miscavige and Shelly went. On trips across the planet. Serving them at every meal.

Meanwhile, the pressures on the Base were becoming more and more unbearable.

COB’s obsession with the Base’s “Org Chart” was wearing down everyone.

Miscavige berated his underlings that they had not been able to place Sea Org workers into positions on a complex chart of job descriptions at Int Base. Although hundreds of people worked at the base and did their jobs, Miscavige was manic about the job organization chart.

But whenever one of his top executives attempted to fill names in that chart, Miscavige rejected the scheme, or simply wouldn’t approve it. And then he’d berate them again that he was going to have to do it all himself.

It made little sense, and most people who worked at the Base were sick of hearing it.

COB’s mood had gotten fouler, and the punishments on the base had gotten downright sadistic.

At the beginning of 2004, Miscavige had ordered dozens of top executives into a locked room, calling them “SPs.” (A “suppressive person” is someone with evil intention to Scientology — being declared an SP is the church’s form of excommunication.)

Over time, that office-prison became known as “The Hole” as up to 100 base executives were held in it day and night, sleeping on the floor and eating from buckets of soupy slop.

Miscavige was becoming less and less predictable. Every Sea Org official walked on eggshells around him, and were hypersensitive to any of his rants, looking for ways to stay in his good graces.

And then, in 2005, a surprising thing happened.

Miscavige announced that he was going to Los Angeles to work on a new set of re-edited L. Ron Hubbard books he wanted published. (They would come out in 2007 and be called “The Basics,” and every Scientologist would be pressured to purchase multiple sets, with lectures, for about $3,000 each.)

Shelly, however, said she was staying at Int Base. And she asked the young woman to stay with her.

It was the first time in the young woman’s career that David and Shelly Miscavige hadn’t traveled someplace together.

The young woman did what she was told, and she stayed at the Base.

While Miscavige was gone, Shelly got to work. She filled the org chart with names, and then informed those employees that they had new jobs.

Finally, the org chart would no longer be an issue.

Miscavige also had continually groused that he was going to need to move out of his quarters in the “Villas” — three buildings on the north side of the property — so they could be renovated and turned over to CMO Int, one of upper management’s alphabet soup of entities. “I’m going to give you the Villas, you assholes,” Miscavige would taunt his top lieutenants.

So while he was gone, Shelly finally made that happen. She had COB’s things crated up and moved out of the Villas to a drab set of quarters known as the “G’s.”

 

Shelly Miscavige

Shelly Miscavige

 
At about this time, Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder arrived at Int Base after visiting Miscavige in Los Angeles. He was immediately cornered by Shelly as soon as he arrived.

“She took me to the back patio of the RTC building, which is really isolated. There was no one around,” Rinder tells us. “She asked me, ‘When you saw him, was Dave wearing his gold or platinum wedding ring?'”

Rinder says he thinks she knew it would have been too much of a giveaway to simply ask if Miscavige was wearing a ring at all, which is why she asked it that way. Rinder had no idea if Miscavige actually had more than one version of his wedding ring.

“Oh, you know, I didn’t notice,” he told her.

“The question was so out of the blue, and so bizarre,” he tells us. “I knew that she was in deep shit. She was worried that he was going to abandon her.”

Rinder wonders if, knowing that she was on thin ice, she was suddenly taking on the things Miscavige always complained needed to be done — the org chart and the renovation of the Villas — as a way of getting into his good graces. Shelly was trying to make things go right for COB.

“That was the last conversation I had with Shelly,” Rinder says. (He was not around when Miscavige returned. He was later put into The Hole as a prisoner for more than a year, and then defected from Scientology while he was in London in 2007.)

By the time Miscavige did return to the base, a couple of months after he’d gone to LA, the org chart had been filled and the Villas were gutted.

He was not pleased.

“He had a total psychotic fit,” one eyewitness tells us. “He said we were a bunch of treasonous fucks.”

A week later, Shelly Miscavige vanished.

About 60 miles from Int Base is another Scientology complex, a place so secretive that even high-level Scientology executives rarely or never hear about it. It’s the headquarters of a Scientology entity called the Church of Spiritual Technology. CST owns the trademarks and copyrights of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard’s works, and it seeks to preserve them by creating underground vaults in various places — California, New Mexico, Wyoming — where millions of Hubbard’s words are being etched on steel plates and sealed in titanium crates, filled with inert gases. The vaults are intended to keep Hubbard’s words safe against nuclear attack.

CST’s headquarters, which includes one of the vaults, is on a compound near Lake Arrowhead in the mountains above Los Angeles. The complex has several buildings where work is being done on the preservation effort. In 2005, Shelly was transferred to the compound, which has very little contact with Int Base, let alone the outside world.

To public Scientologists — members who don’t work for the church but were used to seeing Shelly at public events — as well as staff members who worked at Int Base and other church facilities, it was as if she had disappeared.

She was allowed to make one more public appearance — at the funeral of her father in August, 2007 — but since then, she’s become a non-person in the church.

To this day, our sources tell us, she’s living at the CST headquarters above LA, banished there by Miscavige. At a subsequent meeting of high-level executives, Miscavige said that he and Shelly were through as a couple, but as a religious leader he could not divorce her.

It’s not known what Shelly thinks of her fate.

But she wasn’t the only one affected by the schism. Because the young woman had stayed behind when Shelly asked her to, she was punished, too.

For a year, she endured hard labor as an “ethics particle” — someone the church could not trust, someone who had to be interrogated over and over again to draw out of her any evil intentions she might have for COB or Scientology.

Her husband was still at Flag, in Florida, and for the next four years, the young woman was more or less completely cut off from him as she worked in menial jobs at the base, trying to repair her status.

“Her life was ruined by that altercation between COB and COB’s Assistant,” one of our sources tells us.

Seeing her own husband during that time meant that the young woman would have to go through a “security check” — an intense and brutal interrogation to determine if she still wasn’t thinking of betraying Miscavige or the church.

Over a seven year period, we’re told, the young woman and her husband averaged only one short visit per year.

About two years ago, her husband moved to Los Angeles — the primary reason was not to be closer to her, but to address another alarming issue that needed “handling.” But now that her husband does live closer, the young woman can get out to see him more easily than she could when he was in Florida. But the married couple still does not live together. And she must still submit to brutal interrogations just to spend time with her own husband.

Her husband, as a by-the-book Scientologist, has been trained to believe that any unfortunate events in their lives are their own fault, that somehow they “pulled in” their fate, and his wife’s harsh treatment was caused by her own actions.

And theirs is just one of the relationships that has been warped under the influence of Miscavige.

As we were learning about this story, we asked about other couples at Int Base and were told this astonishing fact: No one has married at Int Base in about a decade.

Although executives who live and work at the Base can only marry each other, none has done so — even though many couples would like to, and they date each other in the chaste Sea Org style (the penalties for pre-marital sex are harsh, and transgressions always can be found out in “sec checks.”)

We asked if there was now a written rule preventing marriages at Int Base, but were told that this, too, was the result of a Miscavige temper tantrum.

In the early 2000s, one of COB’s closest personal employees was scheduled to get married. But when he asked for the day off for the ceremony, Miscavige wouldn’t grant it. Things at the Base were simply too hectic, he said, and there were too many emergencies to be handled. (There are always too many emergencies that need dealing with.)

Around that same time, another Base couple planned to get married and invited Miscavige. “Let’s do this when the base is in better condition and we’ll have a proper ceremony,” he replied.

So they waited more than ten years for the base to get in “better condition.” Eventually, they broke up.

Word quickly traveled after those two incidents, and no one else attempted to get married on the base. And after a few couples managed to get off base for quickie ceremonies, security was changed, and that doesn’t happen either.

Since then, for about a decade, no one else working at the Int Base has dared ask permission to get married.

“If he gets no sleep, then no one gets sleep. If he doesn’t shave, you better not shower. If he hears that someone has watched a movie, he’ll say, ‘How did you get to watch a movie? I worked all night’,” one source told us about how much the base workers fear Miscavige.

And so, we’re told, some couples at Int Base have been dating for up to eight years — though they cannot sleep together. They spend year after year, waiting for some sign that COB has relented, and in the meantime they don’t dare suggest they be given a few hours off to hold a ceremony.

It’s love in the time of Miscavige.

As for COB’s Villas — he moved back into them after they were lavishly renovated in 2008. In a previous story we wrote about a man named John Brousseau who helped with those renovations, we detailed some of the personalized items that went into creating COB’s dream home — a custom-made humidor, a custom bed with elaborate woodwork, a tanning bed that he wanted kept secret.

We hear that things at the CST headquarters — where COB’s Assistant lives — are considerably more spartan.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on April 17, 2013 at 07:00

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  • Observer

    “… Miscavige said that he and Shelly were through as a couple, but as a religious leader he could not divorce her.” But as a “religious” leader he can destroy other people’s marriages or keep them from happening? The slimy little hypocrite! This is the true brutal, abusive face of Scientology. I hope this woman can get out, and soon. It sounds like her marriage is doomed.

    THIS is why we’re here, learning and telling the truth, joking and degrading, comforting the wounded, making people aware. Tick-tock, Davey. Control is slipping through your fingers with each passing minute.

    • Observer

      And speaking of joking and degrading, Mike Rinder posted the inevitable Donations Needed So Vulture Ministers Can Save Boston With Touch Assists and Ron’s Plagiarized Platitudes email. Disgusting!

      • 1subgenius

        “Each bundle contains 12 booklets. Please see below to select the size of your donation:

        Make a donation of $100 (5 bundles) <<"

        So 60 booklets for $100.
        Pretty expensive trash can filler.

        Oh, and this:
        "Note: Your donations are fully tax-deductible…"

        • FistOfXenu

          time to reopen the fireplace

        • richelieu jr

          Who knew you could write off toilet paper?

        • Poison Ivy

          I’m a Boston native. Trust me Bostonians aren’t going to take kindly to the yellow-shirted disaster vultures. At all.

      • Bradley Greenwood

        Poor taste… but EXACTLY true.

        • Observer

          I don’t think making fun of VMs is ever in poor taste. I’m absolutely not making light of the tragedy. Those people are suffering enough without a flock of deceitful cult disseminators/recruiters descending on them like vultures in ministers’ clothing.

        • FistOfXenu

          The poor taste belongs to the Vulture Minstels Bradley. Observer’s just showing up their true colors.

      • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

        Can we set them up next to the Westboro Baptist Church?

        • Observer

          Hahaha! We could sell tickets as a Bunker fundraiser. I know I’d pay to see it!

        • ParticleMom

          Perfect, there is already a human wall planned to shield the victims from WBC. I’ll see you there ;)

          • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

            I’ll bring the popcorn.

  • TheNextMrsTomCruise

    So Shelley had advance knowledge of her impending doom, and was allowed to anticipate it, knowing what was coming. Nice, Davey. Way to make it even more devastating.

    I can only wish that Shelley had used that knowledge to leave the co$ and publish what she knew. Too bad she didn’t. Maybe three or four decades of spartan living will change her mind.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      I hope with all my heart she is not a totally broken shell (even though it is likely she is) and that someday she gets out of there and writes the most devastating book on the Church and David.

      Maybe she will even feel guilty enough to tell the world what really went down with her mother.

    • elar aitch

      Hey TNMTC – why TC? Never considered being the next Mrs David Miscavige?I hear he’s got a super real estate portfolio and access to lots of ready cash….

      • Spackle Motion

        Tom Cruise’s teeth are too jacked up for Miscavige. Maybe we should send him some tooth files to round out those funky middle teeth he has.

        • elar aitch

          Ugh, contemptible man (Cruise). Caught an episode repeat of HIMYM tonight with Nazanin Boniadi – she is one beautiful woman.

          • richelieu jr

            I went to check out what episodes she was in and found this clip on imdb. She wasn’t in it, but check out the title!

            http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1567270681/

            • FistOfXenu

              Fantastic! Too bad it’s just wog world ashtray. If they’d switched into a South Park take on it all could’ve been cool. Saying that I’d love to see South Park doing a cartoon accompanyment to the Headley series on becoming a $cientarCONonist.

    • Casabeca

      Edited to day elar got this first :-).

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Somebody ought to write that up. Hilarious.

        • N. Graham

          Dating Profile: Davey M.
          Every day I wake up thrilled to know that I can do and get WHATEVER
          I WANT, WHENEVER I WANT!! Wouldn’t you like that opportunity? My perfect date
          will want to stay awake until 4 in the morning and then wake up around noon, or
          thereabouts. Screaming at servile sycophants
          should come naturally to you. If you are like me, screaming and yelling are
          like music to your ears. And what music
          you’ll hear-sunset until sun rise!

          About you: You are
          subservient, looking for someone to wait on hand and foot, and love to be
          abused, both physically and mentally. You
          must be willing to suspend all rational beliefs and common sense to convert to
          a cultish religion that I am the dictator of. You must not be taller than 5
          foot 4 or else willing to never stand in my presence.

          About me: I am able
          to solve any problem, anytime, anywhere.
          In fact, I am probably the only big person alive that can handle
          anything right. Just imagine me as your
          date! How fantastic it will be, you
          cannot imagine!

          I have beat up 6 personal assistants to assure accurate
          information on the six computer terminals I have set up to handle the mass
          response I know will come when it gets out that I am in the marketplace.

          • richelieu jr

            PS: No fatties.

          • Bob

            Have kids: NO or Live away from home, permanently

      • elar aitch

        Great minds Casabeca xxx

  • BuryTheNuts2

    This is just so surreal and so typical at the same time.
    David Miscavige needs some serious help, but I am not sure he deserves it, or that it would do any good anyway.

    • Observer

      Perhaps he would benefit from some electroshock therapy. Or a lobotomy.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I suggest a combination.
        I say turn up the voltage WAY UP while the steel ice pick is placed deep in his frontal lobe.
        I will hold the pick in place if you would like to play with ECT dials?

        • Observer

          You’re on! Turn it up to 11!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Sorry for hanging you out to dry observer, but I am feeling froggy after the gym. MEOWWWWWW.

            • Observer

              At least I have my lack of a down arrow to console me. (And I didn’t give you that one.)

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I have my suspects!!!

      • Dean Blair

        I am not so sure that David would benefit from electroshock therapy or a lobotomy but everyone else would benefit from it. He is truly a monster.

      • FistOfXenu

        R2-45

    • hogarthian

      “snap the fuck out of it people”…. my sentiments exactly. There is a part of me that feels terribly sorry for them, especially those who were unfortunate enough to be born into it. However, overwhelmingly I’m just fucking truly exasperated, and frustrated. Yup…. Wake. The. Fuck. UP!!!!

    • John P.

      Why have these people not revolted?

      All I can think of when I hear about the work parties planting wild flowers at Int base is life in medieval times, with peasants overseen by ruthless lords and kings, and with the revolution simmering just beneath the surface. Like this: http://www.johnhartstudios.com/wizardofid/strips/2011/june/wiz060111gdc.jpg

      • richelieu jr

        Well-seen John P. The whole situation kind of reminds me of Henry VIII hiding his first wife away whilst trying to spill legal shenanigans to legally divorce her… In the meantime her life hangs on being docile, polite and keeping just visible enough not to disappear forever…

        Only Shelley ‘kick him, Dave!” Miscavige is no Catherine of Aragorn…

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      The only help Miscavige deserves is a life-time sentence in the RPF. Wouldn’t it be ironic that someday one sea org member more psychotic and ambitious than the midget takes control and dishes out to to him what he’s done to the people in ‘The Hole’?

      • Roger Larsson

        The truth can only hurt the ones having secrets they want to keep secret. DM has secrets he wants to keep secret. A sec-check could do him good.

        • FistOfXenu

          Ooh, sec-checking Demented Minibastard! Can we all join in? Can we gang-bang him?

          • Roger Larsson

            Never underestimate the power of sec-checks. A sec-check saved me from $cientology. A question “Do you have a SP on your line?” made a manifestation on the E-meter. Ron Hubbard’s name popped up as the SP on my line and he couldn’t be handled with sunshine and fine weather so I disconnected from him. A DM getting the same manifestation on an E-meter as I did could be someone in life instead of a guy hiding things in a closet.

            • Truthiwant

              Brilliant, Roger!! I love it.
              Talk about end phenomena on an auditing cycle. Roger you beat everybody. “Ron Hubbard’s name popped up as the SP”. Well, you don’t get better than that.
              Tell me, Roger, can you describe the face of your auditor? What were their TR’s like?
              This is great stuff!!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              No Kidding….And no wonder Roger is no longer a Scientologist.
              The great OT is an SP! ouch.

            • FistOfXenu

              Didn’t we already know that? Just go down the list Liar Ron gave how to spot an SP then work your way through his pathetic excuse for a life. Same with DM.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              touche’

            • FistOfXenu

              Didn’t mean that the way it sounded BTN. Sorry. Just saying, LRH must’ve been looking in the mirror and reading his diaries when he wrote that. I’m surprised more people don’t read on that when they’re sec-checked. Or maybe they do but the checker just says “no, can’t be” and looks for something else.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Not to worry,…I didn’t take offense in any way.

              Someone on Huffington post implied I was a psychotic, delusional little child today.
              Needless to say….I think it was a Scientologist. hehehe!

            • Observer

              We need a line of Bunker achievement badges for things like that. I would award you the Badge Meritorious, Interwebs Enturbulation of Clams for that one.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I have to admit, it did make me smile and hum happily to myself for a couple of hours.
              I would love to have a bunker badge! Sounds shiny!

            • FistOfXenu

              Maybe it’s just somebody that thought you’re DM.

            • Truthiwant

              Isn’t it great how Roger says that Hubbard couldn’t be handled with sunshine and fine weather (good roads and fair weather).
              I can just see the auditor saying “handle it” and then saying “Who did you say was your SP?”

            • Roger Larsson

              The truth is that the auditor that checked me out never got to know the answer to the question; “Do you have a SP on your line?” I wandered in to Q and A-ing and the auditor told me, “It’s all written in Ron Hubbard’s bulletins’, a bunch of read books he pointed on. “You just pointed on my SP” I thought and my needle was floating and we went on.

            • Truthiwant

              Well, Roger, a floating needle on ‘Ron Hubbard as an SP’ should not be underestimated!
              I find it incredible that the session went on after that. I fully realize that the auditor knew nothing of what you were thinking but I still find it incredible that he didn’t pick up anything ‘strange’ in the way that you obviously had an ‘evil intention’.
              Good one, Roger!

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I will volunteer to do the sec check. I wonder if that souped up e-meter that LRH wanted to blow away the big bad leech body thetan is still around somewhere?

          • FistOfXenu

            If you can’t find that a few states still have a chair you could use for Davie to sit in. You could sec-check him in that as long as to tell him he won’t live past his 1st lie. :D

            • richelieu jr

              They should do that famous experiment where you answer questions and every tie you get one wrong the subject of the experiment is supposed to shock you, only it just keeps getting higher.. Turns out people were willing to go way higher than ‘safe’ shocks when told to by a superior. Luckily no one was really being shocked and it was just to test obedience in the age of Eichmann on trial….
              Only for Davey i suggest real shocks, and that the entire Sea Org gets to turn the dials. No one will know who is really delivering the shocks (everyone should, though,and the overall shock should be the mean).. In this way his life and comfort will depend on the affection’ of his present buying elite SeaOrg members as well as their vaunted humanity and caring.. Weighed againt that wonderful ‘follow orders and don’t question’ mentality that is at he heart of the Hubbard Guide to Schizophrenic Thinking…
              If they are loving and love him, it doesn’t go up. If they follow instructions he is going to scream himself mute before sizzling like a Jimmy Dean on a George Forman Grill on the coals of a Tony Robins Firewalk in a Volcano…
              Who wins: The Jacket and Motorcycle-buying Cob Lovers, or the disciplined shock troops who wouldn’t piss on their SP parents if they were on fire?

              Any bets?

          • Roger Larsson

            The asses of LRH and DM are public stuff. An insight gains the freedom of knowingness in the world. People are made to make up their own minds.

      • grundoon

        Am I the only one who’s squicked out by the graphic torture fantasies?

        • richelieu jr

          Yeah, I can get a little over the top. Still, Graphic?

          Certainly not very realistic!

    • Truthiwant

      It’s so true what you say. But we all know how difficult it is. Any totalitarian country, society or group has had this problem. Don’t think Miscavige doesn’t know it. He does, and so did Hubbard. He’s in a risky position.
      Miscavige, however, knows how to play poker and he knows how to fool his opponents. He also knows how to resort to cheating, if necessary, so as to win.

    • ParticleMom

      At this point, they need to be rescued.

  • Del Ling

    So it’s confirmed where Shelly Miscavige is…. I’m more and more convinced that her husband has a sadistic personality disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_personality_disorder even if it’s not a proper diagnosis it seems to fit quite well with the stories that are being told.

    • hogarthian

      ‘more and more convinced’…. I have to tell ya… I took no convincing, you can see it in his face, as clear as day.

      If I was ever introduced to him, knowing nothing about him… my internal alarm bells would be ringing louder than St. Pauls Cathedral at Maggie’s funeral.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Oh, by the way. Here is an article….I thought of you.

        http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-retrain-your-bladder

        Runs like hell…………………

        • hogarthian

          awwwww….. the thought of you contemplating me and my urinary incontinence give me warm fuzzies, how sweet is that! This is my fave bit “It’s up there with anal itching, hirsutism, dandruff, and nipple discharge, all previous topics I’ve covered on Quick and Dirty Tips”

          Can I just say, for the record, that I’m not urinarily incontinent…. (well, maybe when I’m on a trampoline?), but I like this joke, so we’re gonna run with it. ;-)

          • FistOfXenu

            $cientarCONon has a nack for giving me urinary incontinence. Like now reading about the sadistic Minibastard that runs the cult. That’s the kind of thing you’re talking about right?

        • i-Betty

          Haha!

      • Poison Ivy

        I just interviewed a famous criminal psychologist who talks about how criminal behavior is almost always seen in patterns of a child’s behavior early on. COB, who punched a PC in the face when he was what, 13? And supposedly burst into rages as a little kid, and who terrorized his family? If he wasn’t head of CO$, he’d be a major criminal somewhere, no doubt about it.

        • FistOfXenu

          I know you know, but he IS a major criminal. And we know where. He’s running a criminal organization set up by the criminal that he made his role model.

          • Poison Ivy

            Of course. My point is, if he hadn’t had LRH brought into his life as a role model, he’d be a drug dealer on the streets of South Philly, running a strip club, and/or running some sophisticated scam that conned money from senior citizens. No doubt. If he’d gone to college, he’d probably be on Wall Street. (No offense meant to John P – I know a lot of decent stock market folks, including my cousin.) But I doubt he’d have had the patience for college and would’ve ended up the head honcho in some sort of sleazy ponzi scheme.

            • FistOfXenu

              I think of him more like the Joe Pesci character in Goodfellas.

            • Observer

              I can clearly see him in pimp duds …

            • Midwest Mom

              I think that after being fired from his manager job at Pizza Hut (for locking up employees in the walk-in freezer as punishment), his next job would have been as a Real Estate Agent in the Newark area. After having his real estate license revoked for misrepresentation and failure to disclose, he would have found his true calling as a Passenger Service Agent at Newark Liberty International Airport.

            • Poison Ivy

              Brilliant, MWM! Yes on the first two, but Passenger Service Agent wouldn’t last long, the way he’d treat the passengers. Perhaps instead he would’ve gone back to fast food (the “McDonald’s Manager Syndrome” is what I call the Big Fish in the ridiculously small and unimportant pond) – perhaps taking on something less high pressure than a Pizza Hut. Maybe a Subway or a Dunkin Donuts!?

              (PS MWM, email me via “The Rodeo” if you want to read my novel ;-)

            • Midwest Mom

              I have been trying to log in to Rodeo but have been unsuccessful for some reason. I’ll keep trying, though! :)

        • Still_On_Your_Side

          I just wrote a comment on Jim Jones and how sadistic and cruel he was as a child. Interesting how many traits are similar between Jones and Miscavige.

          • Poison Ivy

            Don’t know much about Jim Jones as a child; know more about David Koresh.

        • hogarthian

          oooooo a famous criminal psychologist, that’s interesting!… who was it?!

          I have to say though, that it’s a tricky one. Certainly, some people who go on to commit particularly violent crimes have demonstrated some form of indicative behaviour. But some people really don’t. In COB’s case though, had he lead a ‘normal’ childhood, it would have unfolded something along the lines of “We Need To Talk About David”….. which makes me happy that he’s been confined to his own personal prison, instead of randomly firing at the general public from some fucking grassy knoll.

          • richelieu jr

            No, he’d be much less harmful spending an afternoon taking shots at passers-by… It will take at lest two generations perhaps more to erase the stain this guy leaves behind.

            • hogarthian

              Yes, you’re right.

          • Gus_Cox

            Having personal experience of this, I can say that Dave did not lead a “normal” childhood. I’m not at all surprised at how he turned out.

        • richelieu jr

          I think of him as that little kid on the Twilight Zone who could wish bad things to happen to people so he lived in a sort of kids cartoon paradise with adults falling all over themselves to make sure not to upset him and be sent away, out int he field, or turned into a demented jack-in-the-box or something…

    • http://www.facebook.com/phil.mckraken.58726 Phil McKraken

      Sadistic personality disorder. Love it. He’s got a bit of Joffrey Baratheon in him, don’t he?

      • richelieu jr

        I’d like to see him get slapped silly by a dwarf just like Joffrey:

        For your viewing pleasure (I’d like to see one of you switch the faces on this one!)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNeT2nzEgA

        • Captain Howdy

          Ha, Ha, thanks Cardinal for reminding me to download the last episode of GoT.

    • grundoon

      AFAIK the only evidence of Shelly’s whereabouts is someone’s observation that the Int Base mailroom was forwarding her mail to CST Twin Peaks. But I haven’t heard that Shelly has been seen there or anywhere, or that any communication has come back from her. It could be that CST Twin Peaks simply forwards her letters onward to a more distant and silent hideaway, or archives them in an airtight titanium casket next to L. Ron Hubbard’s childhood coloring books and Sequoia U. diplomas.

      • richelieu jr

        Good point.

  • http://cofsexit.blogspot.com/ CofS Exit Zone

    Kudos to the brave unnamed sources behind this story. Living through that insanity must of been horrendous. But speaking up about it, and having the courage to re-live those dark times, is surely a positive sign that some folks do persevere the abuses with their integrity intact. And then regain their wits enough to realize just how bad things are at Int Base. /SALUTE.

    • FistOfXenu

      Don’t worry about them being unnamed. Demented Minibastard has teams of slaves reading through the story right now trying to pick out clues to who they all are. He’s looking for short lists of 50-100 for each source. If they’re out now he’s gonna put them on a Fair Game list and if they’re still in he’ll put them on a shit list and dig a new Hole.

      But you’re right. They deserve our gratitude and some kind of Merit Of Suppressive Honor (MOSH) Awards from all of us.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Most of us have a good idea who the sources are anyway. No need to dwell on the names.
        I am just glad they are finally safe and together.

        • Midwest Mom

          They’re not living together. He’s in L.A. and it sounded like she’s still at the base in Hemet and needs Sec checks in order to visit him.

          The husband is a “By the Book” Sea Orger. I hope that the wife was able to escape from Hemet before this story appeared today. Hopefully, Tony will have a follow up to let us know if she’s okay and whether she and her husband left Scientology to start a new life together. I hope so.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Hope so too.

          • Ciru

            I assume Tony wouldn’t have posted this if it was likely to endanger the woman. Let’s give him some credit here.

            • Midwest Mom

              Ciru, I wasn’t criticizing Tony in my comment. He knows that he’s my #1 favorite Smershtastic Journalist. (Shhh… don’t tell John Sweeney.)

            • Ciru

              I know. The comment wasn’t directly aimed at you or to criticise anyone. It was to make the point that the woman’s situation and safety would have been taken into account before Tony decided to publish the story.

            • Midwest Mom

              Yep. I agree with you! ;)

        • FistOfXenu

          If the sources names were that easy TonyO wouldn’t’ve bothered concealing them and they wouldn’t have cared. I figure it’s going to take some slave labor to connect the dots. I also figure DM won’t mind hitting some wrong targets to hit the people that spilled.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            True enough.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Wouldn’t it be obvious who it is? Unless there were ‘teams’ of servants, I guess.
        Still, it doesn’t seem feasible that Miscavige and his minions wouldn’t be able to work out instantly who it is, and maybe it’s because of legal reasons she’s keeping her identity on the hush, hush. FBI again, anyone? Ooooh, I hope so!

  • Sid Snakey

    It would surely be a good strategy for us all to put pressure on the Shelley Miscavige situation in any way we can, since this is a huge weak point for Miscavige. He knows he can’t divorce her since the publicity surrounding that would be damaging and he must be worried she would eventually blow and speak out. And since banishing her, the risk of her eventually spilling all sorts of juicy beans has only grown. Miscavige has tried to hide away one of his problems, but he’s only succeeded in creating an even bigger one. It must be a huge festering sore in the back of his mind. It would be a shame if we didn’t continually poke and prod it, and this poor woman deserves to have genuine freedom and a chance at a life.

    Can people add to this thread with suggestions for how we can continue to add pressure to this situation?

    I guess the obvious one is for friends/family to continue to bring concerns for her well being to the attention of the relevant authorities. But is there a particularly effective way to do this?

    How about some reporter somewhere with enough guts to ask Tom Cruise about it? How about someone in a TV audience calling out “Where’s Shelley Tom?” when he’s on a live chat show? That one’s crossed my mind – not that Cruise would do anything but more for the inevitable questions that would be asked.

    Anyone else with any bright ideas?

    • sugarplumfairy

      I’ve always wondered if Shelley’s fate was one of the things that convinced Katie to leave.. She had to have noticed and questioned her disappearance..

      • anon.adon

        If only Katie was in a position to tell what she observed during her time around Miscavige. She was obviously pampered and shielded from the more unpleasant truths about what goes on in Scientology management, but she must have seen or heard something about Miscavige’s insane psychosis.

        • EnthralledObserver

          This is the MOST frustrating thing to me. Fucking gutless Katie and Nicole, they know so much and could kill this thing stone dead in the water if they just said SOMETHING. And I like the pair of them. WTF are they thinking, surely they keep their ears to the ground with all this gossip and media attention and have noticed the one-time power the co$ weilded is diminishing rapidly. NOW would be the time for them to come on out and share!

          • sugarplumfairy

            Yes!

          • SciWatcher

            I’m guessing that Katie’s reason has everything to do with protecting her daughter. Don’t know about Nicole.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Best way to protect her would be to gut this criminal organisation once and for all.

            • Casabeca

              I would think love for Connor and Isabella, keeping her door open to them.

            • Spackle Motion

              Nicole probably signed a severe NDA as a part of her divorce. She claims that she wants to “respect” Bella & Connor’s “religion” but I suspect that it has little to do with respect and more to do with not wanting the channel of communication these two to be forever slammed shut and locked forever. Katie and Nicole are putting their children first, which is something that all Scientology parents never do.

          • hogarthian

            Here Here!!!!!!!

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            Just after Katie left and was settled in her NY apartment, I made the comment that I thought Katie should have had a bit more guts to speak out on behalf of those in and suffering. As a public figure, she has a bit of a responsibility to do that. Boy, did I get flamed for that! Everyone at the time concurred that she is just a Mom doing what is best for her daughter and that the wrath of OSA should not be brought down on them. As more and more is unearthed, sentiments seem to be changing.

      • BosonStark

        I picture Katie asking a few times, and finally when Tom said something about DM doing what he has to do, to KSW, it made her realize how deep she was in. At first, it was probably something about Shelly being on a “special assignment.”

        • sugarplumfairy

          Exactly..

        • Sherbet

          And TC is a complete dolt not to question DM’s explanation. Heck, WE all question it, and we’re on the outside! If TC is used to seeing Shelly at DM’s side, and then, suddenly, she’s gone, how stupid can TC be?

          • FistOfXenu

            “well Tom you know Big Beans like us, sometimes we have to do things ordinary people wouldn’t understand, and Shelly’s where she can do the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics, see? Now, ready for another scotch before I show you the oiliness table?”

            • Sherbet

              Even Big Bean Tom knew when to jettison his first two wives via divorce.

            • FistOfXenu

              True Sherbet, but his wives didn’t know where the bodies are buried. Shelly just might if she’s not one of them

            • Ze Moo

              Tc was young when he married Mimi Rogers and he jettisoned Nicole Kidman before they hit the 10 year married mark. It costs a lot more to divorce after 10 years in California. Just business from TC perspective. In TC’s world everyone is expendable.

            • richelieu jr

              Yeah, whenever Davey said to.

          • EnthralledObserver

            If not ‘stupid’, then ‘willfully ignorant’, or worse, ‘completely informed’… the fuckarse.

            • Sherbet

              Then he’s nearly as big a criminal as DM.

            • EnthralledObserver

              I tell you, that wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

            • Sherbet

              Eleven more years, Suri will be 18, and Katie and her father can write the tell-all.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Too long, I think…

            • Sherbet

              I hope Daddy has already completed his first draft.

            • FistOfXenu

              Try informed and bought off by the celebrity treatment

          • Observer

            “How stupid can TC be?” To infinity and beyond!

            • Sherbet

              Yeah, that was a rhetorical question, now that I think of it, Observer!

          • BosonStark

            Question the COB? That would be much worse than asking him to repeat himself. Tom looks up to the COB and reveres him. The COB is “the most compassionate, the most intelligent…”

            And Tom Cruise is so rich and famous, he doesn’t have a single person close enough in his life, to tell him otherwise.

            • Sherbet

              Pathetic, isn’t it?

            • Observer

              Not that a Big Being like him would listen to anything a lesser, degraded being would tell him anyway.

          • loulai

            It isn’t that he doesn’t question it. He is simply as fanatical as Miscavige so a question about the well being of a mere drone (and everyone but he and Miscavige are drones) is meaningless.

      • Poison Ivy

        True that. If it could happen to Shelley….who knows…

        • sugarplumfairy

          Yep..

    • BosonStark

      Exactly! I want to hear Tom Cruise’s explanation for the complete disappearance/bannishment of Shelly — the wife of his supposed best friend. Oprah should ask him, quoting Tony’s story. Does he shill for a cult whose leader can do shit like this or not?

    • hogarthian

      That’s absolutely what we should do. Can’t we all email an avalanche to Oprah, TC, their PR people etc…. I think I’ll do that now, but I’ll wait to see if someone better informed than me suggests what to say and where to direct it.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        A good start would be linking to Tony’s blog today in some of the major website comments.
        Look for anything related to Human rights, scientology or thier “celebs” and comment (and add the link if they will accept it)

    • FistOfXenu

      “How about some reporter somewhere with enough guts to”
      Still way to few of those Sid. The number’s getting bigger but mostly reporters and especially most live show interviewers and the companies they work for just see the dollar signs and worry about upsetting TC so much he goes to a rival. So they bend over for him before their interviews start and say “thank you sir” when it’s done.

      Where’s Steve Allen when you need him? Okay so not a reporter but TC across the mike from Allen and it would’ve been TC doing the bending over.

      • Observer

        More like TC stomping off in a huff like the spoiled, pampered little princess he is.

        • FistOfXenu

          Maybe. But Steve Allen wasn’t easy to ignore and TC might’ve felt like he needed to try and handle him. Allen was a big deal himself and could’ve made TC “pay” for dodging the interview in other ways, like talking about it and asking in his monologues why TC wouldn’t want to come on the show and be interviewed. he’d’ve humiliated TC into appearing or else for not appearing.

        • hogarthian

          Too old to be a princess now….. he’s morphed into a ‘Queen’.

      • MarionDee

        I’m sure there’s an ironclad agreement before he goes on a show that no questions about Scientology or his wives and children will be asked. I saw him on Jon Stewart last night for the most squeaky-clean interview …. Stewart: “hey, your new movie is really beautiful visually, and I guess there’s nothing else to talk about.” This to a man with at least some knowledge of Scientology’s crimes (what DM did to Shelley at the very least). I hope Stewart had to take a shower later and vow to never do it again.

        • Sherbet

          I thought Jon Stewart would have bigger stones than that.

          • MarionDee

            Audience seemed to be mysteriously chock full of Cruise fans, too.

            • Sherbet

              They probably got free burlwood pens.

            • FistOfXenu

              Slaves only get fake burlwood. And they have to hand them back when it’s over

          • FistOfXenu

            Reminding us again why we can’t be too cocky about the end of $cientarCONon yet. They still can pull some strange moves.

        • MarionDee

          Actually, I wish the press would become so fed up with restrictions on TC interviews that they refuse, en masse, to interview him. That would be a big blow to the marketing of his movies.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            YES!!!

          • FistOfXenu

            This. Starve him of the free groveling ego-stroking commercials for whatever bullshit he’s filming and he’d have to wake up.

            • Sherbet

              From your lips to Xenu’s ears.

            • FistOfXenu

              I frequently talk to myself. I have to. I can’t talk to the hand – it’s a fist and it’s not listening. It’s waiting..

            • Sherbet

              LOL!

          • Ze Moo

            The movie opening press tour is de rigueur in the late night celeb interview business. The studios have too much clout to allow unfettered access and the shows need Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman and all the rest to fill out their time slots. Without the real actors we’d see the Kardashians everywhere all the time.

            I am disappointed with Jon Stewart, nothing but fluff from him and the show last night. They have made fun of scamatology in the past, but never anything too hard. I have only seen Chelsey Handler give the CO$ and TC anything like the proverbial middle finger..

            • Spackle Motion

              Personally, I’m disappointed in Stewart because he started his show with a strong statement about the importance of banding together after a human tragedy but then has Cruise on his show and fails to ask the hard questions. I realize that he has a network to appease, but his statements and actions on last night’s show border on the very media hypocrisy that he claims to mock.

              I probably won’t be watching any parts of the Daily Show for quite some time.

        • FistOfXenu

          That’s why he has to be prodded by saying that Hollywood’s man of action seems to be afraid any interview he can’t control.

        • richelieu jr

          I would have loved to ahve seen that as well, but Stewart is a pretty fair fellow and tries to be straightforward to his guests. I don’t think it can be exagerrated how much weight Cruise coudl trhow around,a nd I am not including Scientology in that at all. What’s more, if Stewart, no matter how great the interview– let’s say it saved a life!–, broke his contract for the interview, even stars who hate Cruis and whoa re affiliated with different agents, managers and agencies would suddenly be encouraged to stay away… What is more, they would be right to do so.

          I love Stewart (Full Dislcosure, I have worked with the man before) and have been thrilled and amazed by his willingness/ability to take on big powers, to Fox and speak truth, etc, so I don’t mean to knock him at all… But his show exist in an ecosystem, and he knows his place in that eco system. The Daily Show is not 60 minutes… If he scares away guests (good ones are not that easy to get- Just ask Joan Rivers, Pat Sajak and Chevy Chase (I am dating myself, I know), the game is up… And insulting the most powerful man in Hollywood is not the same as berating the screaming money guy who so publicly gave bad advice on Faux News.

          • villagedianne

            The only way Cruise would be asked any uncomfortable questions is if the public demands it, large segments of the public. The power of the internet might make that possible.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

            Cruise is not “the most powerful man in Hollywood”.

            • richelieu jr

              Arguably he is, and certainly he was at the time he was a studio head… I seriously doubt there is anyone else who can get a film made quite as easily, as producer or star (perhaps Spielberg? Yet even he was using Cruise until their little spat)… These things are of course, very difficult,if not impossible to measure with any real accuracy. nonetheless, I stand by my statement.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Oh god no………not even close!

        • ParticleMom

          Yeah, it was very disappointing.

      • Sherbet

        Where’s Mike Wallace when you need him? (Same place as Steve Allen, presumably.) Where’s Geraldo Rivera? He wrote the book on being an obnoxious reporter. Let’s set that pitbull onto TC or DM.

        • Casabeca

          Piers Morgan? Anderson Cooper? Or are they too nice?

          • Sherbet

            Nice, although they’ve discussed the books written by exes.

            • Ze Moo

              It will take someone with a long term contract at say 60 minutes to even think about taking on TC. Cruise is just a symptom of the crazy. It’s going to take the IRS or FBI to take the CO$ down.

            • hogarthian

              I agree.

            • FistOfXenu

              you mean if the IRS can stop kissing DM’s ass long enough to bother.

          • hogarthian

            Oh trust me… there’s nothing ‘nice’ about Piers Morgan. Google what he did to Ian Hislop (who is one of my hero’s btw), and the UK phone hacking thaaaaang…..

            • Sherbet

              Sounds interesting. I’ll check it.

    • Ms. B. Haven

      Here’s my suggestion to help get the word out. Anyone who has tried to have a discussion with a scientologist knows how futile that is, but seeds of doubt CAN be planted. Here’s what I do and it doesn’t cost me a dime.

      Once you are on a scientology mailing list you can never get off of that list. Use this to your advantage. Use the return envelopes that are often enclosed and send a nice reply. No need to be antagonistic. Just write on in bold red marker on their own promo ‘WHERE’S SHELLY?’. Someone will open that envelope. Someone might start to ask themselves where Shelly is. That might even come up in an auditing session or sec check. Maybe the auditor or sec checker will ask themselves where Shelly is. The auditor will be sec checked sooner or later. Maybe the ethics officers handling this might start to ask themselves, while dining on rice and beans, where IS Shelly? Maybe the seeds of doubt will start to spread like a nasty little virus.

      Come on Bunkerites. The US Postal Service has fallen upon hard times (probably true for postal services in other countries too). Send some business their way using scientology’s nickel. Considering the vast forests of promo that these bastards send out, there should be no shortage of ‘Where’s Shelly?’ questions popping up in the mail rooms all over the planet. This can be the beautiful start of a snail mail viral attack and hopefully be beneficial to all. Anonymous has nothing on the good ol’ pony express!

      PS I don’t know how the Postal Service deals with these return mail envelopes, but I am guessing that who ever sends them has to pay for the postage based on weight. I alway stuff the return envelope with all of the promo I was sent and anything else I don’t want to increase the weight (cost?). If you have any left over promo, it makes an excellent bird cage liner that can be composted or recycled.

      PPS For those who post on other sites, feel free to pass this on.

      • FistOfXenu

        Genius. Took me ages to escape their list but this is a good idea.

      • scnethics

        I do this, too. I’ve got a large stack of business reply mail envelopes and when I feel like reaching out, I write something special. Someone pointed out to me that whoever opens the mail is certainly qualified to absorb “entheta” without thinking, and also they are carefully watched and so on; however, I’ve spoken with another person who learned the OT III story while in the Sea Org because a person so posted shared it with them (or didn’t prevent them from looking at it). And as Steve Hassan has pointed out, the real person is always there, even if they are so absorbed by the cult personality that you can’t see them. So, I believe these messages can and do have an effect. And I agree that being antagonistic is not the way to go. Being in the Sea Org can be dreadful, so I think it’s good to express sympathy with their plight as a segue into juicier things.

      • NoName

        I usually write 1-866-XSEA-ORG on there for them and tell them the wog world is wonderful and people will help them. A P.S. where’s Shelley might make it onto one of those in the near future.

      • Elisa Gessell-Felkins

        Love this!

    • http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaPandora Victoria Pandora

      i wish jenna would have mentioned this more often when she was getting such massive prress:/

    • richelieu jr

      I think you have to be a bit careful or Shelly will be bit by a snake during a hiking expedition (30 witnesses), die of dehydration whilst swimming, trip and be buried for 7 weeks under 1.2% of Hubbard’s published writings, choke to death on a prawn or die in a bizarre gardening accident…

      • John P.

        die in a bizarre gardening accident…

        Yes, being one of Miscavige’s assistants is at least as dangerous as being one of Spinal Tap’s drummers.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Congressman Leo Ryan went to Guyana to investigate Jonestown. He wrote to Ida Camburn before he left stating he would investigate cults, including the CoS when he returned. Ida tried to keep his memory alive until she died. She lost a son to the church, and was fair gamed for over 30 years. Ryan’s nephew had disappeared after he joined the church. I think it is time that a member of congress showed the same courage as Ryan and started a human rights investigation. I intend to send this post of Tony’s to congress. People who live in California should send the post to the state Attorney General.

      Addendum: when the FBI raided the church in the 70s, they found documents labeled ” Handle Ryan.” There are still many unanswered questions about his murder and the massacre.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Doesn’t Shelley have a sister who was married to John Broussard?

      • Sidney18511

        I believe he was married to DMs sister.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Nope, it was Shelly’s sister Clarisse that JB was married too.

    • disqus_SPiN5N4Adl

      I agree.

    • Bella Legosi

      I don’t think Tom is gonna be ambushed anytime soon by any reporter……..he has “canceled that out of his area” to quote the man himself…….he prolly is like Rush Limbaugh who asks or even demands that the audience be screened before he even thinks about an interview.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Great title.. Greeeaaat story..

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Grrr, I am so frustrated. This little tyrant treats people like Chess Pieces to move about, kick, hit, berate, destroy at his whim. And they just put their heads down and take it. I am not advocating violence, but I cannot for the life of me understand how someone at Int. hasn’t just beat the shit out of that little prick.

    • Observer

      He’s broken their spirits. Some people are fighters, others aren’t. As a fighter, it’s hard for me to understand too, but I’ve seen it over and over in different circumstances. Unless they are forcibly rescued, some will just stay there and take it until the day they die.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        True, I guess all the fighters have already blown.

        • Ze Moo

          Someday someone is going to snap and then the machetes and pistols will come out. Those around the ‘snapper’ are in the most danger, Miscavage will probably not be around.

      • Poison Ivy

        Also remember, all those TR’s have conditioned obedience and docility into people for years on end.

    • Spackle Motion

      I’ve often thought that someone, somewhere will finally snap and kick the shit out of Miscavige when he starts beating up his minions. What I don’t understand is the complacency of disconnected family members (in relation to trying to get revenge on Miscavige). The sheer number of disconnection victims tells me that statistically there should be a very small minority that would actively try to get revenge against this monster. Perhaps they are doing it quietly and out of the media spotlight but I’m really surprised that we do not have more attempts to take him down (this is in no way an recommendation for violence in any shape or form….it is just an observation).

      • FistOfXenu

        Read Jenna’s book.

        • Spackle Motion

          I did. Did I miss something in her book related to people wanting to exact revenge on Miscavige?

          • FistOfXenu

            More like something in her book related to why people can seem complacent and don’t act against DM.

  • BosonStark

    What a story! I’d read bits about Shelly assigning jobs while DM was gone, but nothing nearly this complete, and the no-marriage thing sounds like it will doom management faster than we thought.

    Why didn’t he just divorce Shelly and denounce her as an SP commie terrorist? It’s what LRH would have done. However, that way, there would be the problem of her escaping and writing a book, so I guess it makes sense on one level. A hundred people in the Hole combined with no more marriages at Gold Base compound sounds like he’s really lost it, though.

    • Observer

      Miscavige’s pea brain can’t grasp the difference between style and substance. He thinks not divorcing Shelly gives him ecclesiastical credence, just like posing behind his wee podium with his index finger stuck in the air. He doesn’t understand that actions speak louder than words, and his actions are screaming “psychotic tyrant!” No amount of not divorcing or waving his finger around in a pseudo-pulpit will ever override the message sent by his cruelty.

  • Marta

    The Prison of Belief…and some razor wire for good measure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrewr47 Andrew Robertson

    This is what life would be like on a ‘Cleared Planet’.

    Fortunately it won’t happen, leastwise not under a strutting little psychotic bully such is ‘COB’.

    Perhaps I should be more sympathetic to those adults who willingly submit to daily fear, violence and humiliation.

    But I’m not.

    Let them ‘think for themselves’. Eventually they’ll wake up and escape the vicious and evil monstrosity that is the Church of Scientology.

    Andrew

    • BuryTheNuts2

      In sixty years the “Church of Scientology” has not been able to clear enough people to compete with the population of Flagstaff, Arizona.

      I would have to agree with you that the Planet is no danger of becoming transparent!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/andrewr47 Andrew Robertson

        Flagstaff, Arizona has a population of 65,914. Are you sure you didn’t mean Lost Springs, Wyoming, population 4?

        Andrew

        • Poison Ivy

          Or in the words of Jason Beghe….”Show me a MotherF#@*!&ing Clear”

          • Roger Larsson

            What would the crew on the planet Earth travelling in space around a sun do without all storytellers? Die in misery?

            • Observer

              It depends on what stories they’re telling.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Roger…Ya know I love ya.
              Now….Huh?

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    I believe one of the main reasons that he never got a divorce and preferred to hide her away was the prospect of having eagle-eyed divorce attorneys combing through his records, accounts, assets, etc.? Ummm… I don’t think so. I’m sure she got a good deal of hush money and signed away her very soul in gag agreements. I don’t think he would keep her alive otherwise.

  • John P.

    I think I finally figured out why Shelly gets treated differently from other execs that have fallen out of favor. I’ve been wondering for a long time why Miscavige doesn’t just divorce Shelly through one of the “quickie” divorces that seem to happen so frequently among Sea Org members. And yet he is never seen at events without a wedding ring, even though his marriage has been “over” for about a decade, and he’s been seen publicly fondling his “communicator” (secretary) when out in public. I don’t think it’s about avoiding paying spousal support, since he undoubtedly doesn’t have anything in his name, and since he could exert enough pressure on her not to have to pay her anything, and since the cult has certainly been free with big legal payouts in the last couple years.

    What’s one of the most sacred principles in law? A wife can’t be forced to testify against her husband in a criminal trial (and vice versa). Shelly undoubtedly has firsthand knowledge of all sorts of bad things that DM has done and could testify credibly against him if it came to that. By staying married, DM may hope to use that as a shield so that she can’t be compelled to testify against him if the Feds raid the joint.

    But in order for that to work, Shelly has to be happy to stay married (i.e., not seek divorce on her own initiative) and she has to be happy enough that she won’t waive the privilege… The law says that a wife can’t be forced to testify against her husband, but a spouse can voluntarily decide to testify if she wishes (if she’s mad enough or if she is getting divorced anyway). So the flip side of DM’s staying married to Shelly is that she has to be at least reasonably happy. While she may be at Twin Peaks and unable to leave, I suspect that she is living a much nicer life than other execs; I don’t think she is living in a one-person version of “the Hole.” She might have made it very clear to DM that she is remaining in a cult facility by choice and that he had better keep her happy or she will sing like a canary to the FBI, as they say in classic gangster movies.

    • FLUNK_101

      “Long as You Know You’re Living Yours … ”

      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QNK4Pc8W2A)

      • John P.

        Sacrilege.

        • FLUNK_101

          Sorry, Mr P!
          (I laughed so hard … I should have known better! Once I finished laughing my first thought was, “You’re a genius!” You have a fantastic sense of humor.)

      • Bradley Greenwood

        My wife got to STAND in our portrait; figures.

        • FLUNK_101

          That’s quite a possesive grip Miscavige has on his wife. He’s got a hold on her shoulder like it was the handlebar of a brand new Ducati.
          Shelley looks like she’s lost in her own thoughts.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          She isn’t standing?

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Oh…nevermind!

          • Midwest Mom

            He’s standing on her lap.

            • i-Betty

              Hur hur :P

            • Poison Ivy

              TOOO funny!

      • MarionDee

        That photo makes him look like Malcolm McDowell in “A Clockwork Orange.”

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Dead on observation!!!

        • FLUNK_101

          Yes, there’s something unmistakably sinister about the wedding pic, isn’t there?
          He looks way too happy and she looks unsuspecting.

        • Artoo45

          Did they dump pig blood on her at some point during that prom?

      • richelieu jr

        Is she in a wheelchair, or something?

        Or maybe they were playing musical chairs and she was afraid to get up for fear being sent tot he only Ideal Org in Swaziland?

        Looks like it was great prom, though!

    • TheNextMrsTomCruise

      Good Point, John P. Furthermore, if he does not divorce Shelley, he doesn’t have to worry about Laurisse hassling him to marry. Or any other Misscabbage groupie, like Miss Tom Cruise trying to marry him. That way, he gets to keep the monies all to himself, and gets to bang Laurisse at the same time. The upside of it it that he hopefully won’t procreate.

    • Artoo45

      I’d go so far as to speculate that she goes wherever she wants, whenever she wants (with “escorts” to make sure she stays in line). She might be living a very good life indeed if your Keep Shelly Quiet (KSQ) theory is correct.

      • Truthiwant

        However, you would have to define ‘a very good life’. I think it all depends if Shelly still believes in L. Ron Hubbard or not. If she does, then maybe she agrees that she has done wrong and has to do years of confessionals. If on the other hand she wants out, then I can hardly believe that she is having a good time.

        • Artoo45

          Of course, you’re probably correct. I just like to imagine that there’s someone the Tiny Terr(i)or™ might be afraid of . . .

    • dbloch7986

      It’s a good theory, but I think that even if she were called to testify after the divorce, spousal privilege would still apply to the period of time that they were married.

      • Poison Ivy

        Also, couldn’t he force her to sign a non-disclosure agreement before he let her go? He’s done that with every other ex and many of them still honor it.

        • John P.

          A non-disclosure agreement cannot be used to prevent someone from testifying in court. That is the case whatever the agreement says. If that weren’t the case, the system would break down. My sense is that Miscavige is terrified of criminal actions against him, and thus his incentive to keep Shelly married and thus unable to testify against him is extremely high. If she blows and waives the privilege she could do some serious damage.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

      “a spouse can voluntarily decide to testify if she wishes”: that very much depends on the intricacies of the particular state laws. In California, I had litigation against a woman I call P.B.H. (psycho b—- from hell) who signed papers in the name of herself and her husband, but her husband’s signature was also required and he would not sign (they had a screaming fight about it, according to the neighbors, that left things thrown about the living room, according to someone who visited the next morning). I tried to persuade the judge to throw this thing out, but the judge was in a mood to presume that the wife and husband were in agreement, and I was not permitted to question the husband about it.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      The privilege only applies to confidential communications between the married couple, that’s why it refers to “pillow talk.” However, the privilege does not apply if the confidential communication involved planning or comiiting a crime or fraud. If a husband imprisons his wife and forces her to live a substandard life, should he be entitled to invoke spousal privilege to keep her silent about his abuses and crimes, including his abuse and crimes against her?

    • disqus_SPiN5N4Adl

      There are two spousal privileges applicable here: the testimonial privilege and the communication privilege. The testimonial privilege belongs to Shelly, and she can invoke it or not … her choice. The testimonial privilege allows a spouse to elect not to testify against her spouse to events she’s witnessed. The communication privilege is different. It belongs to BOTH the subject of the lawsuit AND the subject’s spouse, meaning either can invoke the privilege. But it only covers COMMUNICATIONS made between couples while they are married.

      So, in this instance, Davie can prevent Shelly from testifying as to communications made between them during the marriage. He cannot, however, prevent her from testifying as to actions, conduct, events, etc., that she witnessed. She can chose not to testify to such actions (invoking the spousal testimonial privilege) or she may waive her spousal testimonial privilege and speak out about things she’s seen.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Oh come now GC HQ!

      What would Shelly Miscavige testify about anyway?

      That COB is a great husband?

      That COB is saving the planet everyday by building more and more Ideal Orgs everywhere in the 15,901 countries of the world?

      That the Church of Scientology has grown more in the past month than in that past 60 years combined?

      Mr. and Mrs. COB RTC David Miscavige are a very happy working couple:

      http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/dave1082_zpscfeb0506.png

      • John P.

        DM looks like a freshly landed trout on a pier gasping for air in that picture. He needs to learn to relax.

        When we in Global Capitalism HQ are on our jets, we find them to be a haven of contentment and relaxation. It’s a highly developed reflex — it’s the only time we get to put our feet up on the coffee table, eat Doritos and belch at will as we travel around the world doing billion-dollar deals in an endless procession of high-tension negotiating sessions. Obviously, if Miscavige is as wound up on his jet as he is the rest of the time, he clearly shows that he is not to the manor born like we are.

        Incidentally, that’s a pretty teeny jet. DM’s 5’4″ head looks like it’s practically scraping the ceiling. Can he no longer afford to charter the Boeing Business Jet he’s been using and thus must decamp to a Cessna Mustang? We in Global Capitalism HQ don’t consider such aircraft to be “real” jets; nobody else does either. Just try to get the ramp crews at Teterboro to fuel such a thing; they’ll die of contemptuous laughter before they get to you because they’re too busy fueling real jets.

        • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

          Leave it to Global Capitalism HQ to kick a global religious leader when he’s down!

          The fact is that the gold crash has hurt Church coffers to the tune of billions of dollars. And so yes, COB is using a Cessna Mustang these days. This will all turn around very soon when gold jumps to $3,000 an ounce. That is our postulate in RTC in order to continue operations at 2007 levels.

          http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/COBCessna_zpsabe3180a.png

        • BuryTheNuts2

          “it’s the only time we get to put our feet up on the coffee table, eat Doritos and belch at will as we travel around the world doing billion-dollar deals in an endless procession of high-tension negotiating sessions.”

          Thanks for this visual JP!

        • richelieu jr

          Doritos! You really are rich!

        • Gus_Cox

          I was just gonna say… he’s one of the few guys who would have plenty of headroom in a Lear. I can’t fit in one. And forget the Cessna. BTW, looks like he’s swilling a bit of Scotch there, too, along with his little concubine.

      • Elisa Gessell-Felkins

        Ha ha ha….. I can’t tell if you are actually that delusional or have a very very, very, VERY, Dry since of humor. I hope that if you really believe in saving the planet that you overthrow Miscavige and restore some integrity to your religion.

    • The Dakini

      A very astute observation John. I for one have never thought Shelly is living in purgatory. However I do find her seclusion interesting. You present as good as a conclusion as any already put out there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/marc.headley Marc Headley

    When Shelly was at her father’s funeral in Las Vegas, it was right after she got busted. She showed up with Anne Rathburn (Marty’s Ex). Anne was Shelly’s escort (security) and the one time Anne was not at her side Shelly said, “I am in big trouble!”

    Shelly knows too much. As long as Dave Miscavige holds onto some power within Scilonville, he will keep Shelly locked up.

    Last I heard she has two full time handlers now. Antonella Tisi & Anne Rathburn (sorry – I never knew her by her maiden name.) Antonella is her assigned security watch and Antonella is her full time security checker. When she is not being watched, she is being interrogated. This serves Dave Miscavige very well. When she is working she is being watched and when she is not working she is confessing to all sorts of crimes that he can use to discredit her should she ever escape in the future.

    Meanwhile Dave Miscavige bangs away on Laurisse…

    Lurkers… Scientology is not the route to total freedom, it is like Peyton Place meets Jonestown.

    • NMM2009 .

      «This serves Dave Miscavige very well. When she is working she is being watched and when she is not working she is confessing to all sorts of crimes that he can use to discredit her should she ever escape in the future.» I see! So that’s probably a methodology used towards anyone close to the top, and the reason why Rathburn and Mike Rinder don’t “spill the beans”, so to speak…
      I’ve always found strange why they didn’t speak out, apart from the non compromising little stuff, that almost everybody already knew, but I can understand that maybe they have large ‘straw tails’.
      Anyhow, doesn’t this woman have any family outside that can make a complaint to the authorities – of course she is an adult and can be away for as long as she wishes, but there has been too much information that probably she is not voluntarly out of reach ?

      • elar aitch

        Remember we have already had her legal representatives confirm her well being (around the time of Alexander Jentzch’s death IIRC).

        • Poison Ivy

          Yes, but her “legal representatives” could legally have been hired by her husband.

          • Still_On_Your_Side

            Yes, that’s right, but unless the lawyer actually sees the wife, the lawyer could be aiding and abetting fraud, or worse. What if the husband has killed the wife, and the lawyer makes a public statement that the wife is alive?

        • Still_On_Your_Side

          If they did not actually see her, and relied only on third parties for the information that she was alive, they should lose their license to practice law.

    • FistOfXenu

      Thanks for the data Marc. And your explanation makes a lot of sense. It also works with John P’s idea that DM is keeping her married to make it harder for her to testify against him.

      Yup, my “urinary incontinence” is a major problem today.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Lol..

      • richelieu jr

        Just brilliant! What a great encapsulation, Marc!

      • Poison Ivy

        Brilliant!

    • pronoia

      Jenna Miscavige-Hill’s descriptions of Anne Rathbun’s (Mr. Rathbun to Shelly et al) was one of the most horrifying parts of her book. She seems to actually derive pleasure from being cruel. You can see something of that in the videos of her appearance as one of the “I know every inch of my husband’s body” (hard to know how any of them can say that with a straight face given that most of them were seperated from their husbands for years at a time –) wives on Anderson Cooper’s 360.

      Ironic that Shelly sicked Anne Rathbun on Jenna and now she is subject to her interogations. What I don’t understand is why after years of this, none of these people just don’t decide to plead the fifth and basically say I am not going to play this game anymore? What would happen if someone did that?

      • FistOfXenu

        Ask Shelly’s mom? Oh wait, we can’t

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        There is no law enforcement investigation, therefore no one to plead the fifth to.

    • NoName

      I still wonder why she wasn’t trotted out to shut up the media speculation? They’ve trotted out Heber twice now – once in response to Karen making noise (he got to see Alexander for a few hours) and once for Alexander’s funeral. Shelly hasn’t been seen at all, and that makes me wonder what condition she is in and whether she is even alive?

      • Ciru

        Has there been much speculation in large media outlets? Heber only got trotted out to keep clams happy, is there much interest in Shelley’s fate among Scilons?

        • richelieu jr

          Let’s hope not. Heber was well-liked, in spite of what he was doing, plus he’s a good soldier who will put on a smile and pretend he isn’t passing his golden years under a desk.

          THEORY: EIther Shelley really, really looks like crap, or she’s lost it and is a drooling husk of the nasty fascist she once was, or she’s had a Saul of Tarsus moment and doesn’t want to play the game any more and so she won’t be let anywhere near the playing field. Or all three.

          • Poison Ivy

            That’s what I was thinking. I’m glad Marc and Tony’s sources confirm that she’s still with us. No matter what sh@#& she pulled while in power, no one deserves to die for it. But what if she’s ill? Look at the percentage of top Sea Org people who have contracted serious cases of cancer? Think of the stress she is under, and it’s doubtful she’s getting good nutrition, exercise, fresh air or affection (something humans need.) What if she’s very ill… or worse, what if she died because all the touch-assists in the world didn’t work? Think Miscavige would subject himself to another Lisa McPherson type investigation? Sorry, I just don’t trust his statement that he can’t divorce because he’s a religious leader. Hello, when did COB ever felt ANY rule applied to him?

        • NoName

          Last summer, between the Debbie Cook flap and the TomKat divorce fiasco, there were a few media outlets that started to get obsessed with Shelly, at least briefly. The NY Daily News comes to mind. I think the Huffington Post may have mentioned it in passing as well. The News printed Karen Pouw’s statement that Shelly is happily working on some cult-related mission and is too loyal of a worker to be distracted by having to respond to such nonsense (my paraphrase).

          I sorta expected to see Shelly – just a token appearance – after things heated up enough for Karen Pouw to respond.

          • Poison Ivy

            Ditto

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Good point!

      • villagedianne

        They seem to trot out these “disappeared” folk at funerals. Even Shelly, who was last seen at her father’s funeral.

      • http://www.facebook.com/marc.headley Marc Headley

        People don’t get trotted out unless they have 100% pure kool-aid flowing through their veins. Anderson Cooper show was a perfect example. You could SEE the kool-aid! I was half waiting for that big giant punch bowl dude to bust through a back wall.

    • Poison Ivy

      So you are confirming she’s still alive then, Marc? Honestly, that’s a relief. But no matter what a martinet she must’ve been during her heyday, it remains that no person deserves this kind of punishment. She’d have it better in a federal prison that what you describe. “Peyton Place meets Jonestown” indeed.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      NO MARC NO!

      We in RTC can assure you — and all other dramatizing psychotic SP’s on this insane Psych blog — that Shelly Miscavige is doing very well indeed.

      Shelly wears many hats in RTC:

      1. Shelly is the I/C Burlwood Pens Unit International. As such, Shelly is in charge of supplying COB and other RTC executives with official burlwood pens and other burlwood products.

      2. Shelly is the I/C Project Mouse Table, a stunning 22,000 foot high performance table that will allow COB to move his computer mouse as far as he wants without ever coming to the end of the table and running out of room. Thus, COB has conquered the perennial problem of the computer mouse and has patented his idea.

      3. Shelly is the I/C of COB’s private mink farm, a 500,000 square foot refrigerated facility in Hemet used to produce mink pelts to supply COB’s private needs.

      Because of Shelly’s critical role, she needs very high security in a 24/7/365 distraction free environment. For this reason, she may appear to snooping wog journalists or former inmates of Int Base to be “locked up” but we in RTC wish to assure the public that Shelly Miscavige quite busy and happy as she forwards the aims and purposes of COB RTC David Miscavige, to whom a great debt of gratitutude is owed for all that he does for the world!

      Thank you Sir!

      http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/FAMNOIMedal_zpse94d1f02.png

      • i-Betty

        Crying :P

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Uh, thanks for clearing that up…

      • Elisa Gessell-Felkins

        What a crock!!! Could you (with all of your tech) even type that with a straight face?!? Miscavege is a fascist at best. Hey…..who gave you permission to use the internet?

    • aquaclara

      Incredible.

    • i-Betty

      64 up arrows! Marc Headley is the Chuck Norris of ex-scientologists.

      When Mark Headley was born he used his umbilical cord as a jump rope. Before they met Marc Headley, the Black Eyed Peas were simply known as ‘The Peas’. Marc Headley soaks his contact lenses in pepper spray. Marc Headley is the only man that can look cool skipping. Marc Headley destroyed the Periodic Table, because Marc Headley only recognises the element of surprise.

      (Sorry, I’ve been doing some Chuck Norris stuff over at OCMB) :P

      • http://www.facebook.com/marc.headley Marc Headley

        Marc Headley has Lasik!

        • BuryTheNuts2

          jelly!

        • i-Betty

          Betty McBettyswollox would rather stub her toe and walk into walls on her nightly visits to the loo because her glasses have fallen under the bed again than get Lasik eye surgery. Said nobody, ever.

          :D

    • Gus_Cox

      Thanks for the info, Marc. I always appreciate your posts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/patrick.gallagher.92167789 Patrick Gallagher

    Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 4. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

    Scientology’s Human Rights Front Group helpfully provides some links to organizations such as Amnesty International who we can report Sceintology’s human Rights abuses to.

    http://www.humanrights.com/take-action/report-human-rights-abuse.html

    • FistOfXenu

      Yeah they provide links. They just don’t let their slaves enjoy the benefits.

  • BosonStark

    The forbidding or delaying marriage indefinitely, also shows another disparity between Scilebrity treatment and that of Sea Org members. They can’t get the Scilebrities hitched up fast enough, and had a special program for Tom Cruise to find the “Ideal” wife, and helped Travolta run for cover, yet among their own ranks, they can’t marry?

    Then there’s the question on the papal dispensation issue of COB being able to go out-2D with his secretary whereas the other Sea Org guys aren’t supposed to? Does his dick have “command intention” too?

  • sugarplumfairy

    Btw.. ‘Love in the Time of Miscavige..’ equating misscabbage with cholera is an awesome, accurate and very entertaining premise.. I’m loving it..

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Good job, I totally missed that one.
      LOL.

    • Observer

      I thing cholera is slightly more benign than David “Ecclesiastical” Miscavige.

    • elar aitch

      You realise some poor clam now has to word clear this and figure out the cholera connection without any real education and no access to google.

      • Poison Ivy

        However, the reference to Márquez’s Nobel-Prize winning novel will be entirely lost on all of them. I just thought about COB trying to read it and actually laughed out loud. I have a feeling literary fiction is not his gig. ;-)

    • Bradley Greenwood

      I totally missed that; what a simpleton.

  • InTheNameOfXenu

    That’s some story. As evil as Hubbard was, he never went to this length to make life miserable. But, this is Miscavige’s calling. He’s there to bring misery to his minions.

    • Truthiwant

      Hubbard probably would have had he not gone completely nuts and died.

    • FistOfXenu

      Not sure about that. Reread the stories of time at sea. Sticking people in chain lockers, overboarding people and all the rest. And DM was there learning all this at the feet of the Master.

  • claybonnyman

    Wow. A remarkable and chilling account.

    I must say, however, that as a journalist of more than 26 years, it seems to me that the young woman will be readily identifiable from details in the story, name or no. I am concerned that she will suffer serious consequences for her honesty and bravery.

    With luck, she’s out of the “church.”

    • sets guy

      She is not out and I agree she will possibly have repercussions.

      • claybonnyman

        It’s extremely disturbing to realize that such a Stalinist-type organization can be allowed to run rampant in the U.S. That’s free association, I realize, but it’s incredible that this organization is protected from virtually government scrutiny because it is a “religion” – which is manifestly is not. Disappearing people; putting them into “the hole”; forcing people to do hard labor. Sounds a lot like North Korea, to me.

  • susankappelstein

    “Rinder had no idea if Miscavige actually had more than one version of his wedding ring.
    “Oh, you know, I didn’t notice,” he told her.”

    Wait, isn’t this precisely the sort of thing about which a Clear is supposed to have perfect recall?

    • NMM2009 .

      That make of clear have very selective memories, especially when it is to save their own skins, me thinks.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Yeah, I hear the newer model “Clears” are even worse. They are so poorly made you have to trade them in every 24 months.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Good catch… yet more proof the whole of LRonny tech is USELESS!!!!

      • 1subgenius

        There are other explanations for why he responded this way.

        • Spackle Motion

          And none of which prove that he is at cause over MEST.

          • 1subgenius

            This is true.

        • FistOfXenu

          Like a “clear” idea what would happen to him in the end no matter what he said?

    • FistOfXenu

      Hang on, you think “Clear” actually exists?
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      Sorry, I know you didn’t mean it but I needed to laugh. Really badly needed it.

  • ScamProof

    I’ve heard it explained so many ways but it is still hard to believe how completely brainwashed these people are. I read these stories and I’m so outraged “for them” and I so wish they could snap out of it and be outraged for themselves. Miscavige is like a little Hitler. It’s a darn good thing he only rules over this small number of deluded people. I’m so sorry for them all.

    • i-Betty

      Yes, Scamproof, me too. It’s heartbreaking :(

  • NMM2009 .

    There is something fishy about those vaults, allegedly to keep Hubards documents. It beats my understanding that a man, Miscavige, that is so obviously obsessed with acquiring riches would spent so much money on preserving those decrepit residues. After all what good could he take from them if there was a WW III?! He doesn’t look like the kind of person that worries to leave a testimony for the future, or for the “Galactic generations” to profit from….I wonder if those are not just some sort of fortified hideouts in case he becomes persecuted/haunted by the authorities…

    • Midwest Mom

      I wouldn’t be surprised to find gold bars there and stacks and stacks of cash. Miscavisge is too paranoid to trust his precious millions to banks.

      • Ze Moo

        Miscabitch is too paranoid to leave any cash or gold where other CO$ could see it. Any ill gotten gains are in an off shore account and hard to identify.

        • Midwest Mom

          I don’t think that many would see it, since it’s so hidden away. He would probably have someone else give the directives to transport the precious cache for the purpose of impending emergency. Knowing how people don’t question much in the Co$, it’s easy to see that people just do what they are told and live in fear over the horrific consequences of not pleasing COB or Hubbard.

      • Spackle Motion

        I agree. Some critics point to the vaults as proof that Miscavige drinks the cult juice but I doubt that he does and believe these vaults only as proof of his greed. I suspect that there are weapons and precious metals stashed in there.

        • FistOfXenu

          The vaults and the plates are just DM blowing smoke. He created a project that sounds expensive. It’s a blank check. Name 5 $cientarCONonists that would dare say they won’t give any more dough for it until they see itemized accounts of which things cost what for that project. No? Name 3. Okay, name 1. Just 1. Of course not. DM doesn’t have to drink the clam aid he just needs the rest of them to. And if they won’t they just have to be scared shitless. Blank check. The damn etched plates don’t even have to exist ffs. that’s what photoshop is for. He just has to SAY they exist and he needs more money to finish the job and the cultists better cough up or else.

          • Ze Moo

            You’ve got it FistofXenu. The archive project was Lroons attempt at pharaoh like immortality. It actually was a great way to fill up the Miscavage retirement/hiding on a Caribbean island fund.

    • http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaPandora Victoria Pandora

      thats exactly what i have always thought. hes thinking wog armegeddon is just around the corner.

      • richelieu jr

        Wogageddon? Love it! Sounds like one of the monsters that fought Godzilla!

        Godzilla vs Wogageddon, The Smog Monster and Mothra!

    • Truthiwant

      I don’t really believe that Hubbard’s words are written in titanium. I think that it one of those stories that is purposely put out by Miscavige and top management to create an overwhelming sense of awe to all Scientologists. It gives them a feeling that what they are doing must be of enormous importance to humanity if the Organization has spent that much on writing Hubbard’s words in titanium.

      • Observer

        Not to mention that it gives them another regging opportunity. Donate now to preserve Ron’s words for the ages!

        • Truthiwant

          Did they ever have a regging campaign for that? I don’t think so. I hope Miscavige reads your comment. He’ll love you forever!

          • Observer

            Ack! Noooooo!

  • BosonStark

    So, what do these people think when their marriage is delayed for 10 years?

    “I have overts, and am not worthy”? Or, are they thinking strictly in terms of, “I’ll do this because I’d still like to see my family once in a blue moon.” Probably a mixture of both?

  • Sherbet

    It doesn’t happen too often, but I’m just about speechless. Real people playing “The Prisoner” with wives and handlers and security checks and confessions…I can’t wrap my brain around it.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Kinda sucks the fantasy out of a “game” eh?

      • Sherbet

        This is a story about Made-a-Boo-Boo Barbie, and Ken holds all the keys to the Pink Prison.

        • richelieu jr

          And all the other barbies have their hair cut short, scribble marks on their faces, are missing limbs and are shut in the unloved toy drawer waiting for the day they will be loved again like the day they were new….

          ..only each day the drawer gets a little more crowded and the only games being played involve musical chairs and getting make-overs by a deranged man-child with a pair of dull safety scissors…

          • Sherbet

            Oooh, creepy image, richelieu!

          • i-Betty

            That’s so sad :(

    • EnthralledObserver

      Me too, I hear you.

    • Captain Howdy

      And the final cognition for The Prisoner was “who is number 1?..you are, No.6″

      • Sherbet

        Which makes no sense, but the umbrellas were nice.

        • Captain Howdy

          “Which makes no sense”

          No, it does. He mocked it up. He was the prisoner of his own mind.

          • Sherbet

            Really? I took it all literally back then and never figured it out.

  • elar aitch

    ….[whistles slowly and softly]……what a chilling contribution for fl-April

  • BosonStark

    Miscavige’s paralysis over the Org Board and his inability to advance people into positions also seems to suggest he feels like he can’t trust anyone — that he’s paranoid — and/or that he does not want to reward anyone. Instead, he gets more pleasure out of punishing them, like LRH enjoyed watching the overboarding.

    I think that combined with the Hole, is more detrimental within the organization than what he did with Shelly. When he starts alienating the most mindfked and devoted longstanding members like Rathbun, RInder and Cook, that is really the sign of collapse, due to the increasing numbers of them who leave and speak out.

    It’s not that LRH did not dump/alienate those closest to him, it’s more about now, those people can communicate with each other using the Internet. They can compare experiences, just as all ex-members can.

    • villagedianne

      Reports from early members, such as Mimi Roger’s father, are that Hubbard himself cut down anyone in the group who became too powerful.

      • richelieu jr

        This was clearly the case, though he did let the get further and gave them more real power (and titles that meant something at times) than DM has ever dared…

  • 0tessa

    What the (legal) reasons might be Miscavige won’t divorce Shelly, she is in fact a prisoner. She is being kept against her will. I’m even wondering if she is still alive. Other persons have been killed in the past after all.
    Miscavige is evil.

  • Ivan Mapother

    Divorce can be very traumatic to the parties involved. It may not be about spousal privilege or even a pre-nup agreement. Is it possible Dave and Shelly are just trying to spare the beagles from the heartbreak of divorce?

    • elar aitch

      he he he – waiting for them to go away to college first…

      • Observer

        At least someone in the Sea Org will get to.

        • Poison Ivy

          !!

  • richelieu jr

    I wonder if these ‘unnamed sources” especially the young lady, mightn’t be the same as for Wright’s book? If not, perhaps that book is shaking some new people loose and loosening their lips at the same time?

    One can only hope! Thanks, Tony, great work!

  • Bruce

    I can’t believe someone has not flipped out at this jerk and just snapped his neck already.

    • elar aitch

      Right? Or found the weapons stash and gone postal. The sexual frustration, lack of sleep etc. you would think that would create a self-limiting situation. We’re talking basic needs here.

      • TheNextMrsTomCruise

        Right you are, elar. Don’t forget more than the eternal rice and beans in that basic needs list.

      • villagedianne

        Keeping people mal-nourished may prevent them from responding in that way.

  • Spackle Motion

    I find an interesting parallel between the Sea Org youth and the Al Qaeda youth:

    Both sets of groups are typically 2nd or 3rd generation religious zealots;
    Both sets of groups are usually cash/resource poor;
    Both sets of groups are face severe punishments for being unchaste prior to marriage;
    Both sets of groups have very frustrated young men that cannot get laid;
    Both sets of groups were typically raised in rigid atmospheres;

    This is a dangerous combination for any one group of human beings. Religious righteousness, cash-poor, rabid zealotry plus not getting laid can be lethal when those natural frustrations are focused on specific tasks. It is a good thing for Miscavige that Scientology already has built-in boogeymen (psychs) because he could very easily be the target of such built up frustrations. I’m glad that the psychiatric field is finally starting to take notice of this group because it isn’t a good thing to be a Scientology boogeyman.

    • Bradley Greenwood

      That bunny avatar scares me even more than Miscavidge. Why, yes, I am neurotic.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Mook’s avatar activates my coulrophobia big time. I feel your pain!

        • Captain Howdy

          Now you’re an anti-clownite too?

          • BuryTheNuts2

            EWW!
            Yes, I am fanatically Anti Clown!

            Except for Jack in the box. (The Taco’s are still two for a dollar and they are great munchies food)
            And obviously I mean the fast food place, not an actual “Jack in the box”. It was one of those stupid wind up things that caused this engram in the first place!
            Well, that and a really creepy Rodeo Clown my dad was friends with.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            MUST. WARN. WHEN. POSTING. CLOWNPICS!

            • Captain Howdy

              Sure thing.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Rolls my eyes at you!!!

            • Observer

              Our needles all float down here!

      • Captain Howdy

        It’s Frank the Rabbit from Donnie Darko.

      • Spackle Motion

        If you saw the movie, visions of Frank the bunny are meant to make you uneasy.

      • richelieu jr

        It’s Anne Archer’s pet from Fatal Attraction…

    • Captain Howdy

      Somebody from Al-Qaeda voted you down!

      • FistOfXenu

        Of course they did, they were insulted to be compared to $cientarCONon. I don’t blame them.

  • jensting

    While it’s tempting to write off the suffering of the victims who are inside the Damnation Navy headuqarters as being somehow deserved, let’s not forget the extremely young ages at which some of them join (as described in detail in Jenna Miscavige-Hill’s recent book).
    Also, where is Shelley Miscavige – still the wife of David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige?

  • richelieu jr

    I know this probably makes me an unfeeling ASHO, but I am much more moved by the story of the assistant and all the poor SeaOrgers chastely dating until death than by the fate of Shelly Miscavige.

    I know exactly where she is- Sh isn’t imposing her midget master’s will, abusing other members like slaves and strutting around like Eva Peron in the hole making people tear chairs apart to have a chance to see their family again… She was at best an enabler and adt worst an opportunistic sadist herself. Just because he was cuter than Miscavige doesn’t make her a cuddle doll.

    Shelley Miscavige is exactly where she pout herself. What did she expect? And it is a hell of a lot nicer than where she’s sent a lot of other people… I only hpe somehting nastier will happen to the love of her life.

    For the others, I do still have sympathy. But, as has been said again and again, if you walked n and opened the door they’d slam it an lock themselves in again and then fight in front of Miscavige for who gets the credit for slamming it the most avidly…

    The one hope is,that in this pressure cooker, with so many unstable personalities being pushed to the limit on poor food, no sleep and intense, interrogation-style mind-fuckery that someone will crack and flay Miscavige alive… In a Hollywood fikmm (the sort Miscavige NEVER watches on his big-screen plasma TV) he’d get thrown in one of his inert gas-filed vaults that is set not to open for the next 20,000 years… Perhaps then, when he is found, slumped over the ‘BAsics’, his fingers bloody stubs from trying to erase all the additions he made to Hubbard’s works, all the words he stuffed into that duck-billed lie-hole of the Commodore’s, they’ll be able to reanimate him. At that point perhaps there will be a machine that can remove hateful, homophobic, sadistic, Napoleon-complexed, nastiness away from the good heart underneath, and that day, as they detatch the vacuum hose.. all that will be left is a shrivelled, stinky little piece of shit, a dingleberry in search of a red hair to hang on…

    ..and someone will pick up Miscavige ina piece of Kleenex and flush him away. “Scientology!” They will say, “Make sure you wash your hands!”

    • Artoo45

      “duck-billed lie-hole.” Perfection.

    • Poison Ivy

      But tell us how you really feel, Richelieu Jr?

      • BuryTheNuts2

        He is so shy,…Idn’t he?

    • i-Betty

      Genius.

  • Midwest Mom

    Mr. Ortega, Today’s story is so juicy that I need a rain slicker! Nice work!.

    Among the many odd things about Miscavige is the comment about whether he was wearing his gold or platinum wedding band. I have never heard of a man owning or wearing two different wedding bands. It makes it seem like a prop or fashion accessory, instead of a symbol of one’s marriage commitment.

    Did he actually have two different wedding bands that he interchanged at will?

    I have to admit, I don’t think that many people would notice if a man is wearing a different wedding band, but a wife or mistress would definitely be aware. A personal assistant/secretary might notice, as well.

    Miscavige apparently sees himself as an esleaziastical “Lord of the Rings”.

    • TonyOrtega

      Rinder says he didn’t know if Miscavige actually had two rings. As I tried to indicate in the story, he thought it might have been a ruse by Shelly — she didn’t want to come out and say “was he wearing a ring?” So she made up the question about two rings instead.

      • Midwest Mom

        It’s such an odd question, isn’t it? I know that I would have asked, “Did you notice if he was wearing his wedding band?” And then would have mentioned that I was wondering if had finally taken it in to a jeweler to be re-sized, which isn’t an unusual thing to do, especially if a man has lost or gained weight.

        I must admit that Shelly didn’t react, behave, or say a lot of things the way I would, or the way a lot of women would, in a variety of situations.

        I also wouldn’t put up with the title of “COB’s Assistant”. My code name would be “COBRA” , but everyone else would have to refer to me as “Mrs.Big Being” or” Ma’am”. I’m traditional in that sense.

        • FistOfXenu

          Doing it your way means you still have to put an innocent spin on the question like you did. Shelly sounds like she was really good at misleading and misdirecting people. Bet she was good at shore stories and PR handling.

        • villagedianne

          Yes Ma’am, Mrs. Big Being!!!

    • TheNextMrsTomCruise

      Miscavige apparently sees himself as an esleaziastical “Lord of the Rings”.
      ROFL, Genius MM! Love that phrase, and believe me I will be stealing it. Gollem!

      • FistOfXenu

        Stuck it in sloganizer.net and got
        “The Esleaziastical Lord of the Rings it’s a kind of magic.”
        “The Esleaziastical Lord of the Rings kicks ass.”
        “Who wouldn’t fight for The Esleaziastical Lord of the Rings?” and
        “The Esleaziastical Lord of the Rings, I want it all.”
        But when it gave me “The Esleaziastical Lord of the Rings never lies.” I just choked.

    • FistOfXenu

      “esleaziastical” – good one MWM!

      That should go on the list Missionary Kid started.

    • Observer

      A miniature LOTR.

      • richelieu jr

        Who’s the cat in the shades?

        • Observer

          That’s Big Being #3 Tom Cruise doing his demented hyena laugh.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

          Tommy?

      • FistOfXenu

        Never gets old.

    • Truthiwant

      Hey, maybe it’s the ring that gives Miscavige all his powers like in mythology. Without the ring, he has no more powers.

  • Njoe

    Disgusting. So many lives wasted at the hands of one evil man and his cult. Since I started learning about Scientology I can’t watch Tom Cruise movies and it’s beyond my imagination why it is at all allowed to go on. I am so ashamed that the cult is recognized as a religious institution in Sweden… Currently I’m trying to enlighten the teachers union that I’m a member of that they need to act on the fact that Narconon visits Swedish schools on a daily basis, spreading misinformation and what not. The other day I noticed that a major Swedish insurance company sponsors Scientology summer camps for children. I contacted them and hopefully they’ll withdraw their sponsorship now that they know what’s going on.

    Sorry for rambling. Couldn’t help myself.

    • elar aitch

      Always great to hear from someone fighting the good fight.

      • nemojoe

        Thank you.

    • i-Betty

      Well done! Keep up the good work, Nemojoe :) xx

    • richelieu jr

      I was surprised to find this out as well as you Swedes are not only usually a lot brighter and better informed than that, but you also have such centralized rules for schools and whatnot!

      I was trying to get a promise to air my Scientology film over there (still trying to raise money, natch) and I wa s informed that I had to be careful about insulting religions. MY jaw hit the floor and I realized Swedish TV needed a film on Scientology a lot more than I had imagined…

      And whilst we are on the subject of Sweden and religion and TV– What is with you guys and Donald Duck on Christmas eve?

    • Bella Legosi

      oh rambling is a side effect of reading shit that is utterly insane……..kinda like when you see a ghost……your body and mind can’t process what it has seen and you look dumbfounded and are like W T F Trust me that is what many of us feel after we read what delicious info Tony puts out for us……have you slapped yourself in the forehead yet? I find I do that quite often when I read this blog!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kim.obrien.775 Kim O’Brien

      Ramble on ! ( thank you Led Zep ) please direct them to as much information as possible ..these scientology freaks need to be kept away from schools and children . I have faith in the Swedes …you have a very secular country , a good mental health care system , strong gun regulation and tall, hot , blonde guys than can shit bigger than DM ;)

    • Poison Ivy

      Glad you’re on the job in Sweden, Njoe. You need to refer them to Tony’s blog and Lucas Caton’s book.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Damian-DeWitt/100000143081032 Damian DeWitt

    Dr. Steve Wiseman got this completely right, “If Scientology was a country it would be North Korea.”

    Great work, Tony!

  • Poison Ivy

    WOW. Tony, this is amazing. You never under-deliver when you promise something special!
    It seems you’re of the belief that Shelly is still in the land of the living and hasn’t left for Target 2 yet. That’s a relief. But my God, what an existence this poor woman must be suffering, if indeed she is still alive.

    COB’s “Can’t get divorced ’cause I’m a religious leader” sounds VERY fishy. When has COB EVER applied ANY rules to himself? If he were to get divorced from Shelly, then he couldn’t control her utterly, and she could testify against him in a court of law. OR…perhaps he’d have to produce her to sign the documents. Can she be produced? Then we’re back to the “where’s Shelly” question again…could she have died in captivity and he doesn’t want anyone to know?

    • BosonStark

      It’s also possible that to keep her from rebelling or escaping, she is kept quite comfortably, and perhaps, happier than she ever was when she was when getting corn from the COB. I’m sure it was upsetting to her at first, but now she doesn’t have to worry about every little thing she does setting him off. Or, she could be dead.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

        Or she’s in a lightless cave, and gets rice and beans once a day.

      • richelieu jr

        And just like Henry VII allowed Catherine of Aragorn a little castle, a few servants and enough to eat,a s well as supervised visits to the chapel to pray, I imagine Shelley is allowed to listen to LRH or read his books, ad well as play with her e-meter until she hallucinates it is a wii…

        Let’s just hope she has a food-taster…

        • Poison Ivy

          GREAT comparison, Richelieu! Catherine Aragon died in agony because of poor care (her castle was drafty and Henry VIII skimped on the quality of her food) without being allowed to see her daughter again. Very similar. In fact, there is a Medieval Monarchical quality to COB’s rule.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            In fact, there is a Medieval Monarchical quality to COB’s rule.

            Oh yes there is!!!!

            • Observer

              I wonder how many iron maidens he’s got in his basement.

          • richelieu jr

            Somehow I typed ‘Henry VII’ though, like an idiot.. Sorry…

        • MarionDee

          Henry VIII also got regular reports on Catherine’s behaviour … how often she prayed, how long she might live, how well she slept, etc. She was out of sight but not out of mind. He spied on her.

          • richelieu jr

            Well, luckily Miscavige is above spying, right MarionDee?

            • MarionDee

              It’s hard to tell, because his being is so big. It’s up, down, above, below, around the world. He’s everywhere!

      • Sid Snakey

        That is a good point. Compared to running round a tree/eating rice and beans/licking the bathroom floor/having gang-bang sec checks etc, she may be being treated ok, or at least with the promise of being reunited with her abuser if she’s a good girl and in the bizarre world that is Scientology she may even think she has hit the jackpot. Sheesh, what a thought.

        • Poison Ivy

          Sounds like she IS being constantly sec-checked, though. I mean, he’s not going to relax his paranoia for a minute, even if she does have a nice crib and decent food and isn’t on hard labor. That is mental torture. And if she is, I’m sure he’s reading every one, to make sure she’s still being a good little Ronbot.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            As long as anyone, anywhere is getting “sec-checked” that is mental torture.

            Let me make an astoundingly erudite commentary here:

            SCIENTOLOGY SUCKS!

            • richelieu jr

              Now let’s not say anything rash, go out on any limbs here….

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

      The “marital privilege” that Shelley cannot testify against him is indeed a very likely reason why Dave does not just divorce her.

  • dbloch7986

    This is nothing new and is not restricted to Hemet Base either. Everyone lives in fear of the commanding officers on base. I can’t tell you how many times I asked for a day off and was denied by my commanding officer at AOLA without reason. She simply refused to sign the paper.

    I remember one time I was so excited to see my parents, I had told them that I was coming to visit and then the next morning I went to check if my request was signed off and it was not signed. I waited all day long until finally in the late afternoon or early evening the request was signed by her and I was allowed to leave.

    I didn’t want to insist, or be caught insisting on getting my day off out of fear of being labeled an “ethics particle”. She acted exactly the same way as Miscavige.

    Every single Sea Org member, no matter the age or the level of authority lives in the same kind of fear that everyone else does. The only person who is not afraid of their commanding officer is Miscavige himself because he does not have one. It’s awful and unfair.

    So do not think for one second that this type of behavior and this life of fear is restricted to only people that work with Davey Boy. Shit rolls downhill, as they say and his attitude is carried all the way down to the bottom.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      I am so sorry to hear that. It’s one thing to hear gruesome statistics or stories about things that happened to somebody someplace. Quite different when it is someone right in front of you. (Albeit on an anonymous internet chat board!)

  • TheNextMrsTomCruise

    Is it Valentine’s Day…nope. Well it must be Tony’s anniversary or something, because he’s positively gooey with the lovin’ headlines. Love in the time of Miscabitch, Love means never having to say sorry to an Ashtray. Tony, you are just a sentimental guy.

    Now, if OTVIII starts in with the love stories, I may just faint…

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Or throw up.”

      Not because OT VIII isn’t sexy and all….but all this syrup is getting awfully thick and sticky!

    • FistOfXenu

      “Unwrap the OTVIII Self-Auditing Mirror (TM). Carefully erect it in front of you and open out the Panoramic Power Wings (TM) of the mirror so they surround your face and torso approximately 180 degrees. Look at yourself in the mirror. Without going exterior find an angle to view yourself so that you fall madly in love with yourself. When you find it, write a love poem to yourself. Now pretend you are going to perform a magickal ceremony to impregnate the magick woman that will give birth to the antichrist. Clay demo what you should do to impregnate that woman. Label the ways you tell her you love her. When you have done, act out your clay demo, preferably in front of a video camera. Be sure to send copies of the video to COB and Ethics. You see a baby? You failed! Start over. Don’t forget to pay again you freeloader SP!”

      • i-Betty

        *snicker snort*

      • John P.

        Nothing out of the ordinary here, move along. That’s because this is no sillier than holding on to both “cans” of the e-meter in your left hand while you madly scribble with your right, noting the “time, place, form and event” of each of the thousands of dead space cooties that you are trying to exorcise on the OT VII level. That’s the one where you’re on the honor system to pay $600 per hour for do-it-yourself cootie removal. Despite the opportunity to cheat, apparently some people pay tens of thousands of dollars to the cult for this one.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I think if i was gonna “solo audit” I would tell Scientology I would pay myself for the pleasure and they could..well, you know!
          Outside of the infamous “tone scale”…solo auditing is my favorite “DUH”!

          • Bella Legosi

            I know! I was pondering that the other day, thinking, they really expect to get paid for a job you are doing yourself?!? I think tho, by the time one gets to solo auditing they are already “in” and don’t look at paying the church for something you do yourself as a duh, I can see whomever talks to solo auditors doing sec checks to cram it into the solo’s mind you NEED to pay us for showing you how to do this, pointing out what success you have had with it, and then finding the “ruin” the solo hasn’t dealt with so they go back and pay others for what they are NOT doing! Hope that one made sense! My god, now that I read this I am convinced anyone doing solo and paying for it is truly on their way to becoming really disturbed. The solo audit is one aspect I am sure any therapist will see as only detrimental to anyone who is trying to get over some of their issues.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I see what you are saying and I raise you the “moment you are holding the cans” and thinking (peripherially of course) ….$600.00 an hour to tell myself my vibrator is better than sex with a stranger (or spouse…or relative (joke people) or whatever)…because….It freaking vibrates for gods sake….and WHY am i confessing this to myself and then paying C0$ $600.00 per hour when I could be banging my own brains fucking 50 feet outta my head!

              Shit already!

              I rest my case.
              send the checks to the bunker attn: BTN2.

            • Bella Legosi

              LOL oh you got me at a loss for words at that one! However, sometimes a vibrator is better then a real person……just saying……live in a place like Portland you get to know your toys! ;) And I don’t believe in paying money for truth BTN! :P

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I lived in Reno…just sayin!

            • Bella Legosi

              Yeah but Portland has the most strip club and sex shops per capita then any other city soooooo MEH :P AND microbrews we like our sex and booze here baby……and ALL are welcome :D

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Been there done that sweetie.
              With that…I LOVE PORTLAND.
              The land of “Welcome to Portland….Please don’t stay”

            • Bella Legosi

              Well its, “Come for a visit, just don’t stay” but I forgive ya ;)

            • Bella Legosi

              Shhhheyaaaaaa! I know and if I ever do get to go to Amsterdam I am NEVER coming back! And I don’t care if I have to marry one or not! You would have to pull me by my hair to have ever leave that wondrous place

            • hogarthian

              We take our students on a ‘field trip’ every year. Last year it was The Dam. It was a tragi/comedy of Shakespearian proportions. But I think they’ll remember it for the rest of their lives!

            • FistOfXenu

              Out of curiosity BTN what if there was a version of e-meter that vibrated? Wouldn’t that add a new dimension to “solo-auditing” for you?

      • ThetaBara

        Uh, I hate to break it to you, but that’s a tanning mirror.

        • FistOfXenu

          Shhhhh not so loud! We still get away with selling wheatstone bridges for thousands of bucks, you trying to sabotage our profits? You an SP or something? It’s the OTVIII Self-Auditing Mirror (TM). Our heroic founder and leader and Source LRH risked his life to discover and develop this amazing technology and sell it to the world. We catch you calling it something else or tanning with it or doing some other squirrel tech and we will sue your ass and Fair Game you til you wish you never said anything.

  • Bradley Greenwood

    This guy is a complete dick. Even Hitler was too gutless to personally persecute underlings. If Miscavidge thought he could get away with it, I truly believe he would “liquidate” those he considered a hindrance. I am not joking. This guy is a megalomanial sociopath, and I am educated to be able to identify such.

    • richelieu jr

      I also am educated to identify such as in- I am educated and can see he’s nasty little psychotic piece of shit.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Lookie there….You are both right!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    And for anyone who still clings to the notion that the troubles with the CoS are all due to Miscavige, and not Dear Founder, bear this in mind. Miscavige may have stashed his wife away without explanation, but LRH left his to twist in the wind and GO TO PRISON. Federal prison. For a Snow WHite operation that was of his own devising. He also left her with NOTHING to protect her once he shuffled off his mortal meat body. LRH and DM– birds of a filthy feather.

    • Sherbet

      Holler louder, DDD. They can’t hear you over at Indie Central.

    • q-bird

      exactly – dammit all to hell & back .

    • FistOfXenu

      Yup. Liar Ron Humptydumpty was Demented Minibastard’s personal trainer in woman hating, wife abusing and out-2D. And DM was an A+ student. And he’s trying to make sure everybody else learns the lesson.

    • richelieu jr

      Not to mention the one he tortured, kidnapped her child, forced to sign documents saying he was sane, and then lied repeatedly (see YouTube) saying they had never been married– Even Rinder, MArty and Tommy parroted that piece of B.S.

      Hubbard was a bigamist, wife-beater, child kidnapper and serial adulterer. These don’t even count very high on the scale of the man’s crimes (again ‘crimes ‘in the real world sense. If you don’t understand this word, please go over to the heavy dictionary, pick it up — and beat yourself senseless with it as you are a hopeless moron…)

      • N. Graham

        Not to mention fraud, grand theft, and check-kiting.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Thanks for the reminder/fillup. Of course, I suppose he could plausibly claim he never was married to Wife II (Sarah) as he was actually still married to Wife I (Polly) at the time. So there you are.

        (But how he left things with Child III [Alexa] makes me sad. Can’t joke about it.)

        • Observer

          Alexis was the lucky one.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            I agree…no matter how harsh it sounds.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

    From AVClub, a sci-fi-fan site, where a look back at Battlefield Earth inevitably included some discussion of all things LRH, this exchange that I thought Bunkerites might enjoy:

    Derek Downer: On my way to seeing Book of Mormon, I thought it would be of a theme to get a free personality profile at Scientology’s fancy NYC center. My results showed that I was highly chaotic, I think, and that the latest pressing of some such Hubbard book about finances was just what I needed. Signed up that day!

    Preparation Heche: Is there anything you’d like us to pass along to your family after you’re starved, beaten, and murdered in a Scientology compound?

    Derek Downer: Send money.

    bfred: I assume you’re talking about the three Narcanon patients who died at the main facility at Oklahoma over the last year, yet somehow is still in operation?

    Preparation Heche: I was actually referring to the woman in Florida from a few years back. But how scary is it that my joke could actually be referring to several incidents?

    WCOGCollapse: I actually took a personality test at the Clearwater church-place when I was down there for a shuttle launch/awesome weekend pigging out on seafood and spring training baseball. Even given that they got me on what was basically the most chill weekend of my life, I am a very conflicted person inside, it would seem.

    • richelieu jr

      How funny! I was involved in discussion on that thread as well! In fact, I invoked Battlefield Earth over there just today as sounding similar to a summary of the film ‘Fantastic Planet’ that they had written (check it out, it really does!)

      Anyways, great site, many very interesting people!

      Do you post over there, Robert?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

        No, I just stumbled on it the other day.

  • villagedianne

    I wonder what fairy tale Miscavige told Cruise about Shelly. Was she on a super-seekrit mission at a remote location? Or was Miscavige shocked, shocked, to find his wife was a big ole SP?

    • Spackle Motion

      Tom Cruise, known for being a huge fool and unceremoniously dumping his romantic partners, probably wouldn’t second guess Shelley’s absence. He knows better than to openly question Miscavige.

      • Observer

        And he probably shares Davey’s viewpoint, so he doesn’t even have to ask.

  • Ze Moo
    • TheNextMrsTomCruise

      Any cult that don’t want me, I wanna know why. lol

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Can u still get on rodeo? if so, I need to talk to you about a couple things birthday girl.
        BTW, when is your b-day?…mine is May 1st.

    • i-Betty

      Hillarious! Russell Brand doesn’t care who he offends. Love it :P

  • Jefferson Hawkins

    Shelly was a very conflicted person. Unlike Miscavige, she had a bit of a moral compass, however damaged. On more than one occasion, after I had been physically or verbally abused by Miscavige, Shelly would call me up and talk, ask how I was doing, ask about my auditing and training. She seemed to actually care, and I had the impression that these calls were not officially sanctioned by Miscavige – it was her way of trying to mitigate the damage.

    In public, at Miscavige’s side, she was the “ice queen,” always supporting him, always backing him up, never questioning. She obviously loved him and was dedicated to him, but she became increasingly bewildered by his irrational abuse and psychotic breaks. She confessed once to a friend of mine, “I don’t know what to do. Dave is going crazy.”

    She tried to actually handle the things that Dave was complaining, for years, were not handled. That was a big mistake. If he actually wanted them handled he would have resolved them or delegated to someone to handle them. But he has no idea how to handle these things and mistrusts everyone around him to the point of obsession. Anyone who ACTUALLY tries to handle things intelligently becomes an instant power threat. He hates anyone who seems to be more intelligent or more competent than he is, so he has to constantly put people down, invalidate their solutions, and complain that he has to do everything himself. Shelly walked right into that psychosis. That she demonstrated leadership and intelligence in his absence put him over the edge.

    Of course, Miscavige can’t divorce her or offload her. She knows far too much.

    As to marriage at the Int Base, I believe my marriage to Catherine Fraser in 2000 was one of the last marriages there. And we were discouraged from doing so, told “this is not the right time” and so on. We only managed it by skipping out to the local courthouse one Friday morning when we were supposed to be sleeping in after a late night. Miscavige hates marriage, he always imagines that any married couple is secretly plotting against him. Seriously. ANY sort of alliance between people is viewed as a threat against him, and he works to break couples up.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      I refuse to feel sorry for David Miscavige,….but he really is a pathetic man.

      • Captain Howdy

        Actually today’s story and Jeff’s comment leads me to believe that D.M is a lot crazier than I had previously thought. Before today I considered him a cynical manipulating sociopath, and they’re a dime a dozen, now he seems to be more the dangerously insane Idi Amin style dictator. This doesn’t bode well for the future.

        • FLUNK_101

          “dangerously insane”

          Yeah, I had no idea how paranoid he is, but it makes sense. He’s in way over his head. He has zero charisma and no creativity. Hubbard may have been a “guru” to many people, but Miscavige ‘s schick is very distinctly “not guru-ving,” if you know what I mean .

          • Captain Howdy

            He’s the classic bully dictator who came into power through a Coup d’état just like Amin,, Hussein, Qaddafi etc., and his ever growing paranoia of something similar happening to him is making him more and more dangerous and unstable. His true descent into complete madness is right around the corner. Hopefully someone grabs the guns before D.M and loyal officers do.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              One scary part is…David KNOWS how to use a rifle and shotgun.
              Wonder if he has trained the others?
              It isn’t just pick up,…point and go bang.
              But DM does know his way around a shotgun.
              Do the rest?
              Because he can only do so much damage alone.

              I am almost hoping his ego fucked him here!

            • Bella Legosi

              Shotguns are pretty easy to pick up and learn. As for those learning, I am sure the ATF and FBI have already assessed that threat and will keep that in mind when they do a raid on Int. I really do hope that they do it RIGHT and have it not turn out like Ruby Ridge or Waco. Say what you want about those incidents, but in the end a 12 year old boy was shot in the BACK, his mother shot in the head while holding an infant ( and the sniper who got Mrs.Weaver told his superiors he didn’t know if he got a kill or not BS!) not to mention at the end of Waco there were 18 children subjected to 6 hours of CS gas (a gas that is listed as a chemical agent banned in war mind you). But, I try my hardest to believe what happened in the mid 90’s will not happen again or if it does happen again it would play out in the way Red State played out, which I thought was a freaking fantastic mix of both situations from all view points……

              http://youtu.be/uJ1v6oFHefc

            • Captain Howdy

              But Bella, if Weaver hadn’t been a dangerous, new order, illegal weapons making, right wing nut-job, and if Koresh hadn’t been an insane, child molesting, illegal weapons making douche, all those other people would still be alive.

            • http://www.facebook.com/kim.obrien.775 Kim O’Brien

              amen twice

            • Bella Legosi

              Thank you! You should hear me go off if I hear there was only one gunman on November 22, 1963! lol

            • http://www.facebook.com/kim.obrien.775 Kim O’Brien

              i was sayin amen to capt ….

            • Bella Legosi

              oh ok

            • Bella Legosi

              I find that reasoning hard to compare with the death of childeren and in the most horrendous way possible. You cant tell me cuz they were nuts wipes out the disturbing way in which those children were subjected to psychological torture and then real torture in the form of CS gas…….you are welcome to pull the fingernails from my nail bed and I will always say how those were handled should not have happened period. And the Weavers were or still are racist who did use their kids but does not make up for a government agent shooting a 12 year old in the back and then the government covering it up. You know the guy who shot the Marshall who killed the Weaver boy was acquitted and given monetary compensation. The first and only one to get that from the government, so yea they fucked up

            • Bella Legosi

              Also I would like to impart the information that the FBI changed their rules of engagement regarding the Weavers. It was changed to if anyone on Ruby Ridge came out with weapons they were deemed threats, whether they shot or not, and this did INCLUDE the children. Please Captain, give the doco Rules Of Engagement a shot and the book, Every Knee Shall Bow that is a pretty good book on Ruby Ridge. Also I was 9 years old when I saw the news about Ruby Ridge and remember the press and government saying that it was the Weavers who shot their child and NOT Federal Marshals. Mind you the whole Ruby Ridge incident happened over one sawed off shotgun which had been set up by the ATF. The Fed Marshalls spent 18 months waiting for Randy Weaver to come out of his property and got tired of waiting and decided to strap up and attempt to get him through ambush. Unfortunately they brought a silenced automatic 9mm knowing they may use it against the Weaver’s dog. That is what started the fire fight. Randy Weavers son watched a fully cammoed agent shoot his dog, which was later run over by government vehicles. That is when the boy shot back and ran off, getting hit in the shoulder and blowing his heart out. Randy’s friend witnessed this and shot that agent in the head. When the Agents buddys brought the body back it was to be said that agent never fired a shot, which was proved wrong, that Agent had over 8 rounds discharged. Then those who oversaw Ruby Ridge were also the ones who oversaw Waco. Waco was supposed to be a spectacular raid highly publicized because the ATF needed some good press to come back from the Ruby incident. The FBI agents involved with Ruby also went and over saw Waco. David Koresh may have been a monster, but to make innocent children suffer for the sins of their parents is like not caring when kids in Syria or Iraq get blown away because their parents are crazy religious. The FBI also denied using psychological warfare, when in fact that is exactly what they were doing. Also, 14 is the age of consent in Texas, David Koresh and his followers were told by the undercover ATF agent that they knew of the coming raid and that agent told his superiors and they went with the raid anyways, showing up in horse trailers, the female agents were there to shoot to death the Huskey and the puppies because they were “threats” this is actually in the video. Sorry if I went of on a tangent but Waco really breaks my heart. And the drug rumors were not true. David Koresh called the police to let them know who had control of Mt. Carmel before he did had been making methamphetamine, that man who owned the property was later arrested and convicted of using an ax to kill another who would not view him as the second coming of Christ.

            • Bella Legosi

              I suck tonight…..lol I didn’t mean to post this tangent twice…..really sorry

            • Captain Howdy

              I have watched “Rules of Engagement” more than once and I’m fairly familiar with the Ruby Ridge story. The Feds did screw up both operations, and of course they did try to cover their asses. That’s bureaucracy and “‘Murphy’s Law” in action. It has little if anything to do with actual conspiracies and more to do with “humanity sucks”, especially the organized version.

            • Bella Legosi

              I agree with ya there. Didn’t mean to come off as a conspiracy tho. I get worked up Captain lol I dork off like I do whenever some one brings up Anne Rice books, movies, or JFK! I can make a model of Houston and Elm outta everything! :P I should have known you may have come across Rules of Engagement. Have you partook in The Hour of Hour Time? Omg I love Bill Cooper. I have cooled it a bit with conspiracy stuff, you can only get so far before you realize how silly it all is or really swallow the Kool Aid and go batshit!

            • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

              Mischa!

            • Bella Legosi

              He is like my freaking hero right now! I got the stained glass avi up now til I find a better one! He suits my personality well! I am a superduper Supernatural fan, and I LOVE when he walks into that church and goes off then changes the window! Oh Misha, I shall save myself for him!

            • Bella Legosi

              Sorry I accidently hit the delete button
              Also I would like to impart the information that the FBI changed their rules of engagement regarding the Weavers. It was changed to if anyone on Ruby Ridge came out with weapons they were deemed threats, whether they shot or not, and this did INCLUDE the children. Please Captain, give the doco Rules Of Engagement a shot and the book, Every Knee Shall Bow that is a pretty good book on Ruby Ridge. Also I was 9 years old when I saw the news about Ruby Ridge and remember the press and government saying that it was the Weavers who shot their child and NOT Federal Marshals. Mind you the whole Ruby Ridge incident happened over one sawed off shotgun which had been set up by the ATF. The Fed Marshalls spent 18 months waiting for Randy Weaver to come out of his property and got tired of waiting and decided to strap up and attempt to get him through ambush. Unfortunately they brought a silenced automatic 9mm knowing they may use it against the Weaver’s dog. That is what started the fire fight. Randy Weavers son watched a fully cammoed agent shoot his dog, which was later run over by government vehicles. That is when the boy shot back and ran off, getting hit in the shoulder and blowing his heart out. Randy’s friend witnessed this and shot that agent in the head. When the Agents buddys brought the body back it was to be said that agent never fired a shot, which was proved wrong, that Agent had over 8 rounds discharged. Then those who oversaw Ruby Ridge were also the ones who oversaw Waco. Waco was supposed to be a spectacular raid highly publicized because the ATF needed some good press to come back from the Ruby incident. The FBI agents involved with Ruby also went and over saw Waco. David Koresh may have been a monster, but to make innocent children suffer for the sins of their parents is like not caring when kids in Syria or Iraq get blown away because their parents are crazy religious. The FBI also denied using psychological warfare, when in fact that is exactly what they were doing. Also, 14 is the age of consent in Texas, David Koresh and his followers were told by the undercover ATF agent that they knew of the coming raid and that agent told his superiors and they went with the raid anyways, showing up in horse trailers, the female agents were there to shoot to death the Huskey and the puppies because they were “threats” this is actually in the video. Sorry if I went of on a tangent but Waco really breaks my heart. And the drug rumors were not true. David Koresh called the police to let them know who had control of Mt. Carmel before he did had been making methamphetamine, that man who owned the property was later arrested and convicted of using an ax to kill another who would not view him as the second coming of Christ.

              The book “The Ashes of Waco” is a very interesting read especially when it comes to the guns that were supposedly found at the Branch Davidian “Compound”

            • steve JOHNSON

              So Randy Weaver and his pregnant wife deserved to be murdered by the government because of that? How about all the innocents murdered at Waco? Most importantly, you are on a website that questions Scientology yet you are so quick to trust our benevolent, always truthful government? Give me a break. At least I now know that being a “right wing nut job” is enough to justify my murder at the hands of government thugs….and that works both ways, remember that. I wonder what they’d make up to justify YOUR murder? Don’t think it can’t happen to you, they never stop once they get started, and even the most loyal, brainwashed true believers get purged eventually. You’d do well to remember that, especially since this VERY ARTICLE is about just that. But people like you never learn, and the world is filled with people just like you. And we wonder why we never seem to progress and improve as a species.

            • Captain Howdy

              Hey, Stormfront discovers the Underground Bunker! I would say welcome but…

              And strawman where did I say any of the killing were “justified”? And I don’t trust anyone completely, let alone the government. Look, you hang around with crazy people don’t cry foul when something crazy happens to you. it’s common sense.

            • anchovy12

              Nevermind. Once you start name calling I have no need to respond. Sorry, I mistook you for someone capable of discussion without slurs. Have a great day, and when the government kicks down your door (they’re doing that to “innocent” people now so not hanging out with crazies is no defense) remember that you deserve it!

            • Midwest Mom

              Who are “they”?

              You have a “they”versus “us” belief with your view on the U.S.government. That’s what Koresh indoctrinated into his followers, and he was not a role model for logical or intelligent thinking or behavior.

            • anchovy12

              “They” are the people flying drones overhead to spy on citizens, waging war in the Middle East and meddling in the rest of the world against the wishes of a large majority of the citizens, pushing amnesty that nobody wants, killing whistleblowers and journalists, to name a few things. “THEY” are most definitely against me and anyone with common decency and morality. If you think supporting people like that is logical and intelligent, then go right ahead. Perhaps under the Newspeak definitions of those words, it is. I want no part of it, and if it makes me a racist, a hater, a Stormfronter or anything else, then so be it. Better any and all of those things than someone who justifies unconstitutional behavior, blatant murder and all sorts of other atrocities.

            • sets guy

              Bullshit

            • Captain Howdy

              Batshit

            • anchovy12

              So that makes it OK for the government to murder them, and innocent children as well? You think it can’t happen to YOU one day? What will the people say about you and will it be true? In case you haven’t noticed, our government is routinely kicking down doors of innocent people, how long until they start shooting them and disappearing them just like Shelly? If you trust the official story from ANY government agency, then you are a fool. But then again, that cult mindset must be hard to break, eh? God help this country if it’s populated with people that think like you.

              Also, SO FREAKING WHAT if the Weavers were racist? Is that truly the worst thing a person can be? Why is it only an offense punishable by death if it’s a white racist? What kind of punishment should the Nation of Islam, or Black Panthers, La Raza or any other minority racist group get? DO YOU PEOPLE HEAR YOURSELVES?? Good God.

            • Elisa Gessell-Felkins

              At least there are no children at INT.

            • Captain Howdy

              DM knows his way around multiple weapons from what i’ve read and I’m sure his security staff is well trained and most likely wogs. All he had to do is train the CMO’s with those M-14’s and 45ACP’s and he’s good to go.

            • Bella Legosi

              I raise that tiny tyrant a freakin RAIL GUN >XD

              http://youtu.be/36jbiUmYJ8Y

            • Aerial

              I was staff in one of the openings of an Ideal Org (Ideal Morgue, more like). On the day of Miscavige’s arrival I was sitting in in reception and next to me sat a big oaf, a drunkard by the looks of him, who was one of his guards. Suffice it to say I did not think he was a Scientologist, and I wondered why they keep such a man hired. I didn’t think Scientology was one to tolerate a non-professional to do such an important job as guarding Miscavige? Anyway things make more sense now regarding the level of professionalism around DM. Thanks Tony for the story and thanks for the interesting comments.

            • John P.

              I think there are a lot more “wog” staff running things in Scientology than there used to be. Miscavige is sufficiently paranoid of his own crew that I suspect he believes he’s safer with hired outside guards who are loyal mainly to the almighty dollar. He over-pays them so that the Scientology gig is the best gig they will ever have in their lives. Certainly, “wog” guards are likely to be better trained than some of the internal people they have used in the past. I have read that most of the security staff at Int Base are now “wogs” because the homegrown staff has been so inept.

              Similarly, I understand that much of the International finance people have been replaced by “wog experts,” probably again because of the competence and because they could be seen as less likely to tell others in the cult about just how much money Miscavige is salting away — how would you feel if you were making $50 per week and you discovered that Miscavige is not only spending $2 million a year on jet charters but also putting $10 or $20 million away in an offshore account for his “rainy day fund”? “Wog accountants” are easier to keep separate and the right sort of sleazy accountant has seen this sort of thing before.

            • lukebandit

              Are you still with CO$?

            • Johan

              I know a chap that met Gadaffi once, at least he was charismatic in person…apparently….

          • MurrayPurkins

            I tried to read EL Ron’s novels many years ago. I am a persistent reader, but I couldn’t get one down if I coated it with bacon grease. It mystifies me to see how many people bought into it in a big way. SMH. Can’t you all just puke it up, like a cat would?

    • aquaclara

      Thanks, Jeff, for this inside perspective.

    • http://www.rediscoverscientology.com/blogs/joe-howard.html Joe Howard

      And, Jeff, let’s not forget the rule invoked around 2004 that RTC staff could not remain married to spouses who were not in RTC and so Warren McShame divorced Marcy after 20 some years of marriage, as did Darnelle Bloomberg divorce Dave Bloomberg. I wonder about Lyman and Carol but never heard.

      As for Shelly, I cannot recall one friendly conversation I had with her in the nearly 27 years I was in the S.O. at WHQ and Int. I think Shelly’s calls after your drubbings were just jerking you off. I don’t think they were sincere. She was against having kids because, in her words, “You never know what you are going to get,” as in Rosemary’s Baby. She was a piece of work before she met DM. All that said, I wish she would escape and sing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

      “He hates anyone who seems to be more intelligent or more competent than he is” Doesn’t that cover just about the whole human race?

      • Gus_Cox

        No.

    • Artoo45

      You have just described Borderline Personality Disorder. Poor Shelly . . . and everyone else DM comes in contact with.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Thanks for more pieces of the puzzle that is Miscavige…

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      Thanks for that insight. She walked right into the lions den and now she’ll never leave the place alive, short of an FBI raid.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    This story is the stuff of nightmares. Miscavige appears to be unraveling. His mania is out of control, and he is sounding more and more like a combination of Hitler, Stalin and Jim Jones. Law enforcement should determine if it is willing to stand back and let another Jonestown happen. The adults killed at Jonestown went to Guyana willingly, and became the victims of the paranoid delusions and mania of Jim Jones. Jones also had armed guards, and he also would not let people leave.

    Jones was an admitted atheist who started the People’s Temple because he thought it was the best way to recruit and create a political movement. After he moved the Temple to San Franisco, he became a local celebrity, helping to get Moscone elected mayor, and he was publicly praised by both Walter Mondale and Rosalynn Carter. In fact, Rosalynn Carter met with Jones a number of times, and he spoke at a political rally with her. Local politicians courted Jones because they knew he could help them get elected by ordering his parishioners to organize and get out the vote.

    Jones, like Miscavige, had an agenda. His personality, like Miscavige, was self-centered, cruel and sadistic. Only after the Jonestown massacre did it come out how sadistic and violent he was. People who knew him as a child reported that he abused and killed small animals. Ex-members of the Temple told stories of Jones’s abuse. Like Miscavige, Jones demanded unquestioning obedience from his church. Also, like Miscavige, Jones unraveled. After Jones moved the church to Guyana, family members of parishioners knew something was terribly wrong with Jonestown. They created a “Concerned Relatives” group and pressured congress and the State Department to investigate. Harvey Milk, Willie Brown and other San Franciso political leaders denounced the investigation as an attempt to ruin the reputation of Jones and the Temple. When Congressman Leo Ryan arrived in Jonestown, members reported what was really going on there, and a number tried to flee with Ryan. Jones knew the whole story of his violence, sadism, drug use, and so on would be revealed if Ryan and the parishioners were allowed to leave, so he ordered their murder. Five people, including Ryan, were killed at the airstrip. Jones then ordered his congregation to kill themselves, and they did while guards pointed guns at them.

    Close to one thousand people died at Jonestown, including 200 children. Miscavige, like Jones, demands adulation and receives praise from celebrities, and local and national political leaders. Miscavige also believes that a person’s only value to the world is the value he gives him/her. When their value is gone, i.e., when they question him and he can no longer trust their adulation, he relegates them to the Hole, or they ” disappear.” What will happen if older members of the church decide to depose him? Or there is a mass exodus of members? Does the FBI want to wait to determine if the stories of abuse, imprisonment, and “disappeared” members are true? If law enforcement had acted earlier in the Jim Jones matter, 1,000 American citizens, including a congressman, would not have died.

    • i-Betty

      Thank you, this is excellent analysis.

    • 0tessa

      I’m afraid you are very right in your analysis.

    • Espiando

      Here’s something about Stalin: while his second wife Nadezhda was still alive, events in the Kremlin and at his dachas tended to be husband-and-wife affairs, and the wives usually held pretty high posts in the Party or apparat themselves. After Nadezhda “committed suicide” (the events of that night in 1932 are still very unclear), the events tended to be stag affairs, and most of the wives had their positions downgraded and made less public. Molotov’s wife was an exception, and many years later, she was used as a way for Stalin to attack his most loyal toady.

      I keep thinking that Stalin is the model that DM wants to follow. If DM could be the cause of the deaths of 26 million people, I think he’d do it. He’d say that they were SPs anyway.

      • richelieu jr

        Can you imagine what would happen if DM got the bomb?

        (i love these little ‘what if’ games…)

        • Spackle Motion

          DM did get the bomb and his name is Kim Jong Un.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I am going to say something really crude here…but I sort of mean it.
        I believe if he thought he was wiping out 26 million SP’s, it would give him the biggest orgasm of his nasty little life.
        Power factor!

        • Observer

          *adds “orgasm” to list of words that should never be used in a sentence referring to David Miscavige*

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Sorry :)

            • Observer

              Are not!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              true, but i am polite and I lie for the benefit of good!

              ;)

      • Captain Howdy

        Stalin was way more clever than D.M or Hitler. People underestimated his intelligence.

        • Bella Legosi

          Like the holocaust that happened after WW2 that isn’t in any history class? Stalin is and will always will be an evil bastard……and that is the best way for me to describe how f**ked that guy was in the head…….purges claimed how many lives? 20 million?

          • Espiando

            The purges of 1936-1938 were estimated to claim between 1.5 and 2 million lives. The two famines that were caused by collectivization were far deadlier.

            • Bella Legosi

              Thank you for the clarification…..I read that those sent to Siberia were a lot more then 1 mil, but 1mil is completely sicking too.

            • Espiando

              I just stated the figure for the purges of 1936 to 1938. There was also the purge of 1945 and 1946. Any Soviet soldier who surrendered to the Germans, after being repatriated, was sent to Gulag as a punishment for not following orders and dying for the Rodina.

            • Bella Legosi

              Oh how about the penal brigades? Would they count as well? I read about those from Cracked.com under the name 10 worst jobs in war….not trying to argue…just stating I may have come across different if not severely flawed info……

            • Espiando

              No, the penal brigades don’t really count. They pale in comparison to the number of brave Red Army men killed because 1) Stalin purged the Red Army of any senior officer with active brain cells in 1937 (CoS comparison: the Mission Holders’ Massacre of 1982), 2) appointed complete suck-ups and old Civil War buddies like Voroshilov in their place (CoS comparison: Sea Org and CMO Int takeover in the mid-80s), and 3) got caught flat-footed when Hitler attacked (CoS comparison: February 10 and March 15, 2008).

              Back in the CoSR, indeed.

            • Bella Legosi

              Thank you for that info…..I am very interested in any Russian history, those people are so damn interesting through and through!

            • Espiando

              Like the Cap’n and I said, get anything and everything by Simon Sebag Montefiore, even his biography of Potemkin (not modern Russian history, but he is so goddamn fascinating). Orlando Figes’ “Natasha’s Dance”, “The Whisperers”, and “Peasant Russia, Civil War” are also magnificent. And, of course, you need Source: John Reed’s “Ten Days That Shook The World”.

            • Bella Legosi

              omg thank you for the list of books I will be checking out very soon! I may not be on to post but I think it will be worth it for the knowledge contained in such works!

            • Bella Legosi

              I believe the cost of Russian life was the 20mil I stated earlier…..I had a feeling my data was flawed, thank you tho for the comment, I do appreciate when I post comments that are flawed, makes me have to read more and I love books and other forms of them

            • Espiando

              As I implied above, the most accurate count for the lives lost between the Russian Civil War in 1919 and Stalin’s death in 1953 is approximately 26 million. And if Stalin hadn’t died when he did, you could add a few million Jews on to that figure, since that’s what he was planning when he had his stroke.

            • Bella Legosi

              sorry

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Awwwhhh!

            • Bella Legosi

              i wish gifs worked here cuz i downloaded a ton to use in my comments, cuz Castiel is my new hero and am seriously considering saving myself for Misha Collins should he ever know who I am lol :)

            • BuryTheNuts2

              lol… am really beginning to LOVE u

            • Bella Legosi

              hehehe feeling is mutual hun nite nite and may the entheta monster bite! ;)

            • BuryTheNuts2

              We are so gonna have girl sex.!!!!
              i feel it. lol

            • Bella Legosi

              lol omg you got OT powers cuz I didn’t see this til I wrote my last response don’t make me blush now! :P~

          • Captain Howdy

            Read “Court of the Red Tsar”, he was a fascinating, complicated, evil guy.

            • Espiando

              Any book by Montefiore is a great place to learn about him. I think his “Young Stalin” is even better than “Court”.

            • Bella Legosi

              I may have to do that. I have been sucked in with Tudor England for the time being but started reading the history of Russia and the rise of the communism there! Thank you Cap! O, Captain my Captain your Ouji wisdom strikes again!

        • Espiando

          Very, very clever. Everyone underestimated him for the same reason that everyone underestimated Lyndon Johnson: he sounded like a hick, with his thick Georgian accent (Stalin, not LBJ).

          I’ve thought about the DM -> Stalin comparison since I wrote that up, and I realized how good the comparison is. This would make LRH Lenin, the radical theoretician who created the framework for the whole odious society. You have any number of candidates for Trotsky, with the best fit being David Mayo; after years threatening the whole house of cards from the outside, measures were taken to eliminate them (Mayo via lawsuit, Trotsky via icepick to the head). Marty would be Poskrybeshev, the loyal right hand who was eventually shoved out. Mike would be Molotov, the public face who was put into a corner and only got out by the skin of his teeth.

          Thus, we know what will happen: some medical catastrophe will happen to DM, and his toadies will simply let him die. Then, shortly after, Ingber or Yager or whoever takes over will admit that DM made mistakes and created a cult of personality, and start a “Back To LRH” movement. The repression, though, will remain.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            !!! nice everyone underestimated LBJ..

            so I heard from source…..

            • Bella Legosi

              He did good things in the way of Welfare, but I still think he was behind the assassination (Jack Ruby has some choice reading for people but I can’t find the book anywhere, something like LBJ is a Nazi), but I also believe GHW Bush was the trigger man on the grassy knoll…..lol I told you all I am a conspiracy theorist….and last year around this time I was consumed by it, but now I am on to Co$, much more intriguing and more relevant to today’s world

            • Espiando

              Another comparison: LBJ once told his campaign staff to start spreading rumors that his opponent fucked his barnyard sows. DM tells everyone to go suck cock on Hollywood Boulevard.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              E!
              I am starting to like U…
              but now…beddy bye

          • HelenNPN

            Absolutely brilliant, maybe the best observation ever written on the hierarchy and future of Scientology.

            It is almost an argument for reincarnation.

    • MarionDee

      I remember when Jonestown happened. My husband had been with the Rouchies for two years then, and I was horrified — first by the tragedy itself, and also by the idea that something like this could happen among the Rouchies … and Scientologists. My ex and I knew a few. In fact, I had been stopped on the sidewalk a few years earlier and asked to take the personality test. But several casual friends of ours who lived in that area (around U of T in Toronto) got sucked in (I don’t know where they are now). Jonestown is a frightening lesson. I was literally sick. I don’t want to see something like that twice in my adult life, let alone twice in a lifetime.

      • k. madelyn

        I just can’t buy the official scientochurch falling in Jonestown or Heaven’s Gate style. But I do find it very hard to view CO$ as a bona fide ‘church;’ looks more like a severely ill corporation that is running itself into the ground.

        The CO$ is dwindling due to corruption & scandals; a schism with LRH True Believers who’ve gone Independent; disenchanted execs & members who don’t just blow, but defy church Stasi & speak out, creating lethal PR… There’s a snowballing mass of entheta online & in the media media, plus 1%ers leaving too–& suing–also, I bet the IRS is even now collecting ammo of their own to revoke CO$’ tax-exempt ‘religious’ status.

        Besides: Miscavige is a bully AND coward. He seems more the type to pack his bags, fly to another country to avoid extradition, & live comfortably off the $$$ he’s salted away over the years. Perhaps write an apologetic/memoir while working on his tan… or in brief–it will end not with bang-bang but a whimper.

        • MarionDee

          Oh, I think you are right. But it’s a gut-wrenching fear that lingers.

          • k. madelyn

            I guess part of my view (based on some weird research binge) includes the sense that the True Believers are either convinced they are helping to Save the World by KSW, combined with the paradoxical selfishness at the surface level of Co$. Suicides mainly seem to occur to benighted individuals who break down under the cognitive dissonance–they condemn themselves to the death penalty because the church brainwashes member to a point at which they’re convinced that any doubts they have are rooted in their own failures to follow the doctrines of LRH.

            The way the church dogs their ‘squirrels’ & former members who’ve unchurched themselves seems closer to the last-ditch actions of the leaders of a slipping Ponzi scheme trying desperately to retain investors. That is why it’s easier for me to imagine CoB & his homies (one thing I’ve not been able to figure out: IS there a bona fide Board that DM Chairs??) scarpering offshore to evade fraud & human rights violation–if he really had to face criminal charges & prison at some point. They could pull a Hubbard & remain aboard, & Co$ would merely anoint a new CoB…
            .

    • richelieu jr

      One of my very best friends just played Jim Jones for historical recreations in one of those little cable ‘Scary Cults’ shows.. IT was shown about 3 weeks ago, I think…

      • BuryTheNuts2

        That is cool! You have interesting connections.

        And I still can’t get over the perfection of the lyric: Electric cat out yet!

        Freakin’ stellar.

        • richelieu jr

          Wow! You remembered it! Worst reggae song ever!

          (i do have a good version fo it somewhere, not the one on the ‘devices’ album…)

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Send the better version… And don’t think I am stalking you. I really do have some memory issues.
            I can’t turn it off….I try! Oh shit…I try…I wish!!!!
            Sorry.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              How come all u other people don’t remember ….like everything?

    • LisaIsRemembered

      Scary, yet accurate sounding comparison. He needs to be taken down, and hard.

      • Bella Legosi

        Despots and tyrants always end in spectacular ways……..like Caligula……There are limits to ones madness, especially if they are leaders of any mass or group of people. It varies to how freaking insane that leader becomes before those inside the group get together and have a shanking party. But, if history proves anything at all the wicked do get theirs in the end. If not in death then in posterity.

        • Espiando

          Regrettably, some don’t. Take, for instance, our subject above: Stalin. His end came with him lying on a floor in his pajamas, his right side paralyzed, and his pants pissed.

          • Spackle Motion

            Although this is true of Stalin, he was in a paranoid-fueled hell (constantly on the move) when he died so it was far from a luxurious demise by dying of old age.

          • Bella Legosi

            lol and my point at the end…..in posterity we now know the truth, was an evil bastard who died alone with pissy pjs!

            • Espiando

              He wasn’t dead when he was found like that. He still lasted another two days laying on a couch, ministered to by doctors who were giving him, among other things, vinegar enemas. All of a sudden, Vistaril doesn’t sound too bad.

            • Bella Legosi

              that makes it even more funny and fitting for one evil son of a bitch. How much you want to bet he didn’t think he would go out like that? He prolly thought he would be remembered fondly and not the way listed above

            • Bella Legosi

              Vistaril can be used as a sedative, but it is an antihistamine. And it works wonders when you become allergic to opioids!

            • FistOfXenu

              So he died full of piss and vinegar? The important thing is he died.

            • Bella Legosi

              so very very true!

  • http://twitter.com/sandyshores50 Sunny Sands

    Maybe Shelly doesn’t blow because of the mysterious circumstances of her mother’s “suicide”.

    • sugarplumfairy

      maybe she doesn’t blow because she burned all her bridges and has no one on the outside to send her a cell phone in a victoria secret box..

  • BuryTheNuts2
    • i-Betty

      What a great link. And what a great quote from the article:

      “This is Anonymous in 2013: engaged, passionate, rebellious, careful, reckless, tireless, unpredictable and evolving. Unpredictable because they are splintered; evolving because they are human.”

    • hogarthian

      Fascinating.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Breaking news: Identity of bomber is known. Arrest is imminent.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      CNN reporting they have videotape of the guy dropping his bag on the roof right before the explosion.

      • stillgrace

        roof? Lord & Taylor’s surveillance camera across the street.
        edit: also some important footage was shot from a second story window

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          yes, he was seen on the roof, plus he left some material evidence, like the lid, and possibly bag there, at least what I’m hearing. Details usually fuzzy in the beginning of these things.

          • stillgrace

            Details ARE fuzzy. However, injury profiles indicate it was a street level bomb. Bomb could have blown the lid onto the roof. It will all sort out. I’m hearing now that no arrest has been made. Conflicting reports everywhere.

          • Captain Howdy

            No, the bombings were street level. No roofs.

      • SP ‘Onage

        Now they are saying no arrest has been made, but they have an ID.

    • Captain Howdy

      GREAT NEWS if true

    • 1subgenius

      Would be interesting if this turned out to be helpful:

      4chan may have found the bomber

      http://imgur.com/gallery/LvoCC5T

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    It is so easy to say you would never do this or say that or act in such a way. How long have you ever gone without sleep or nourishment? How long would you stay mentally healthy while being tortured physically and mentally day in and day out?

    Here’s a handy article all about what would happen, how it happens and more than likely 90% of you reading this would go through when exposed to hostage captivity:

    “Stockholm Syndrome: What Leads A Psychologically Healthy Person To Experience This Paradoxical Attachment”

    http://www.fsc.yorku.ca/york/rsheese/psyc1010/wiki/index.php/Stockholm_Syndrome:_What_Leads_A_Psychologically_Healthy_Person_To_Experience_This_Paradoxical_Attachment#Indicators_that_the_victim_has_Stockholm_Syndrome

    While those in the Hole have actual razor wire fencing them in and eagle nest armed security guards, even the lowly non Sea Org staff, say in some forlorn outpost in Kansas City, exhibit these symptoms, although the physical torture would not be happening daily. For those who are shaking their head about why these people don’t leave, you really have to understand this illness and this syndrome.

    Thanks to Paul Salerno for pointing out this recent video of Kansas City staff members promoting some upcoming event next week. Watch it After you at least read the list of symptoms in the above article. See if you spot Any person that appears to be acting sane and rational. Prisoners of their own beliefs is not so metaphorical after all.

    http://youtu.be/RFiquc8vU60

    • i-Betty

      I’ve always believed that Stockholm Syndrome causes the ‘prison of the mind’ aspect of the successful culting business model, and that is why I try never to be horrible about individual scientologists. I truly believe that the vast majority are victims, and for that reason they need our compassion :( [edit] But not Miscavige. Never Miscavige. He is a hate-filled bully and I HATE BULLIES.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Nice post (as yours always are).

      That first website you linked to is pretty cool. And not just that piece.
      Since we are talking about Miscvige, this one is pretty damn good too.

      http://www.fsc.yorku.ca/york/rsheese/psyc1010/wiki/index.php/The_Evolution_of_the_Modern_Day_Psychopath

    • BosonStark

      “Every time you step in [the cult warp], it’s a different experience.” Just setting foot in an ideal org is life changing?

    • Midwest Mom

      Thanks for pointing this out. You’re right. Unless we’ve been in someone else’s shoe’s, we can’t honestly know what it’s like to walk in them.

      Great post!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        tks. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be one of those Holees. The staff I was around and myself that went delirious long ago didn’t have quite as bad conditions as this, although it was only the last 6 months that began horribly. I remember knowing something was terribly wrong, that I wanted to leave after the 1st month, and many times after that. I have learned that severe, constant sleep deprivation and malnourishment can cause a laundry list of symptoms just after 1 week but after several months, all kinds of hormonal changes take place, and brain chemistry and muscles, vision, balance.

        So your judgment and decision making abilities completely change in very short order. How long it takes you to enter full metal zombie status I supposed depends on how well you were when you started. These last few years even public are lacking sleep, but definitely stressed 24/7, and in constant state of terror. Staff conditions sound extreme, like Jason Barclay’s write up. It seems brain function goes out the window and distorted.

        Now, as far as getting Into a cult in the first place an not noticing, I plead youth, PTSD, and ignorance, and no internet then. I can’t imagine Shelly Miscavige not being terrified. It sounds to me like she’s more a prisoner of war than a prisoner of belief. Daily interrogation while in a confined and constantly monitored building … who could live like that without going mad, or the stress manifesting in some other kind of illness. Her two handlers are the essence of evil fanatics.

    • Poison Ivy

      Thank you THDNE.

  • SS

    Miscavige has set himself up for an existence in which every human being he comes in contact with is tripping over him or herself to kiss his ass, yet he has to know that he’s an absolute punchline to the rest of the world – a world he’s therefore terrified to engage with other than through mouthpieces and attorneys.

    After all the misery this guy has wrought upon others from his throne for the last 27 years, I just want the satisfaction of knowing he’s sitting in a cell and reflecting on his evil life. I pray that some authority eventually finds the gumption to put him away.

    • Poison Ivy

      I don’t think COB has the capacity for self-reflection, even from behind the bars of a prison cell. I see him as a pure sociopath with no ability to feel empathy for anyone but himself. In true narcissistic/sociopathic fashion, he will continue to blame the rest of the world for everything that’s gone wrong in his life.
      So if/when (PLEASE let it be when!!) he’s behind bars, he’ll be in absolute rage, frustration and misery because (in his mind) he got royally screwed when all he was trying to do was Save Humanity.

      • Spackle Motion

        I agree, Poison Ivy, but I’m not sure that Miscavige always fit into the description of a true narcissist. True narcissists (with NPD) have very little ability to conduct self-reflection, a needed component for true change. There are some individuals that sit on the cusp of NPD (i.e. they do not meet all required elements for the diagnosis), and some of those folks typically have some element of self-reflection that appears from time to time.

        Miscavige may be one that has moments of self-reflection (he did make some self-disparaging remarks to others after the Ted Koppel fiasco), although what I’ve read about him points to a remarked change in his personality after the Lisa McPherson tragedy. Rinder and Rathbun have both written that he seemed to be manic and crazed in his narcissism, which may mean that he crossed a line of no return, and now has full NPD.

        The Wright book tells a story of his violent asthmatic fits as a child in which he seemed concerned for the well-being of those around him. Although that may have been for show and not genuine, Miscavige may have taken many years to completely develop his NPD.

        It is an interesting topic, though….

  • i-Betty

    This has been one of my favourite articles from Tony. If your source is reading this, Tony, I hope they know we are sending our love xxx

  • aquaclara

    Tony, this is a compelling story – one of the best ever. It’s also generating a lively conversation today. For those that might know, how many people are at Int base now? Can people still blow, like BFG, or has it gotten harder to escape? Who else is missing or hidden? I wonder what type of lawsuit it would take to get COB on the stand in front of a prosecutor.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    The statement “I can’t get divorced because I am a religious leader” strikes me not as a statement of ethics, but rather one of pragmatism. As in:

    After smacking a subordinate up the side of the head: “I can’t be physically abusive to the little people because I am a religious leader.”
    While raiding the piggy bank: “I can’t be a thief because I am a religious leader.”
    While putting away a troublesome wife: “I can’t get divorced because I am a religious leader.”

    It makes sense in a perverse way.

  • TonyOrtega

    Thanks to Karen de la Carriere, we’ve added a stunning photograph of Shelly Miscavige to the story. There are very few photos of Shelly on the Internet, and none of them are this good.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      That is a nice pic. She looks lovely in it.

      • richelieu jr

        Much better than the ones one her broom…

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Quite true…and i am no
          apologist for this one!
          She has her own dues to pay…big time.

          • Bella Legosi

            “Behind every great there is his wife/woman” is that how the saying goes? I find it to go both ways my self so I totally agree with ya on that one!

    • i-Betty

      Karen’s posted a second image over at OCMB. Let me see if this works…. http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/karendelac/shelly-miscavigeGALA.jpg

      • i-Betty

        It worked! I actually think she looks more like Dave Miscavige in this one :-/

      • BuryTheNuts2

        This is interesting and nice too, but that other one was truly cool,…. a little 80’s edge. Her mouth and lips remind me of Patti Smith’s.

        • Captain Howdy

          Patti Smith? She looks like Holly Hunters younger white trashier sister. Manson chick material.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            You win…much better assesment!

      • richelieu jr

        This is the one for the milk-cartons, no doubt about…

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I had this one … to look at and kept staring. Her head….it looks shooped on.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          it does!

        • Spackle Motion

          Yes, the head doesn’t look to be in a natural position.

        • ParticleMom

          and the neck is far too long!

        • Still_On_Your_Side

          That dress is terrible, it’s matronly and it looks like someone bought it for her with the idea of making her look dumpy. She looks unhappy in every picture. I realize she was an enabler, etc., etc. She also, however, was/is a victim of Miscavige. Who knows how brutal her home life was.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Wondering when that picture of Shelly was taken?

  • http://twitter.com/StipeLeslie LeslieStipe

    Forgive if this has been posted…

    Russell Brand snubbed by Tom Cruise, Scientology
    http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_23046558/hicks-russell-brand-snubbed-by-tom-cruise-scientology
    Brand’s last sentence kills me!

    • i-Betty

      Oh yes, it’s brilliant! I’ve watching it a couple of times today to stop myself thinking about cake, and it’s not helped one bit. Did give me a laugh, though!

    • Bella Legosi

      I found much respect for Brand ever since John P. sent me the link to his article talking about addiction……I now will not talk shit about that man. Thank you John!!!

      • Sandy

        Bella. John P is one of my new heroes. I seriously consider him a man for our times …

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Careful, the supermodels might get jealous.

          • Bella Legosi

            Let them get all green jelly! That way Tony will have a supermodel reader! :D Always look on the bright side of life, a wise Python told me ;)

        • Bella Legosi

          He and Alanzo, and Cap are the reasons I stay and comment here. I second your comment whole heartedly!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeb.burton.50 Jeb Burton

    Only a Scientologist would put up with this kind of sadistic treatment. It all started with the brainwashing techniques of LRH. Yet people like Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder and Karen de la Carreire will tell you that the philosophy of Scientology and LRH will still lead you to the bridge to total freedom. Or clear as they say. They only disagree with DM and corporate scientology. I think they are all psychos..Its like somebody who left the Ku Klux Klan because they disagreed with cross burning, but still hate black and jews.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Yes, I’d love to see at least one of them take on documented lies from LRH one by one. What’s left at the end? A big fat con-man, plagiarizing douche who’s full of shit, so full of shit in fact that just looking at his picture makes me think I can still get a slight whiff of it.

      I don’t tend to be very open minded when it comes to all this. I feel like folks who had good experiences with any it were just ripe for ANY kind of self-help therapy to work some magic. I think Hubbard got lucky that any of his mouth diarrhea worked at all.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Agree!

  • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

    just watched the arse-kissing Jon Stewart gave Cruise….. I was unable to leave a comment but I did leave his show a tweet!

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-april-16-2013/tom-cruise?xrs=synd_twitter

    • Bella Legosi

      lol wonder why he didn’t go visit Colbert?

      ;D

    • Ivan Mapother

      Tom must of had his three inch lifts in when Jon met him last night . IMDB has Jon at 5′ 61/2″ and Tommyboy at 5′ 7″, but the broadcast looks like the big being has three inches on him.

      • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

        As I’ve mentioned here before I bumped into him in Nell’s nightclub in New York in the mid to late 80’s…. he had to squeeze past me and I could easily rest my chin on the top of his head… I’m 5’10” and have a normal size head…. this puts him in the 5’4″ to 5’6″ max range. I wouldn’t put it past him to have had that Chinese leg extension surgery at one time to give him an extra couple of inches. I’ve also stood eye to eye with Arnie Swhwartzenegger in an elevator and if he’s 6’2″ [his official height] then I’ll go and buy a hat and eat it!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Sylvester Stallone was in the audience of a show I saw in LA several years ago. During intermission he was signing autographs while standing on his seat. He’s really tall when he’s standing on a theater seat…

        • BuryTheNuts2

          HEY DDD…I Know I have not Acked U yet…but your my new fave dude! laughs!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Well thank you. I think.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      How recently was it that Cruise (via lawyers) was threatening Comedy Central if they didn’t pull that documentary that aired on South Park? Guess he is really trying to scare up all the audience he can get for Oblivion.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Caption contest anyone?

      • Midwest Mom

        Tom Cruise and Jon Stewart shared a laugh after Tom informed Jon, “No silly, I don’t yell at coffee mugs to levitate them; that’s redonkulously funny! I yell at ashtrays to levitate them!”

    • John P.
      • Spackle Motion

        Meh….THIS article puts something new into the “ass” of that previous wimpy-ass article about Tom Cruise: http://hollywoodandswine.com/man-who-started-infamous-richard-gere-gerbil-rumor-finally-apologizes/

      • BuryTheNuts2

        No shit JP. i did not even listen.It was just gonna piss me off.

      • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

        Had that on my bollocks site yesterday…. I would suggest anyone visiting the hollywoodandswine site put ‘scientology’ into their search site for a few more gems.

        I’d love to know the behind-the-scenes crap that must have gone on to get Cruise on the Daily Show as I’m sure Stewart wouldn’t have chosen him to promote his shlocky movie in a million years….. but then again I think Russell Brand nailed it with his interview that seems to have hit every media gossip site out there with the scientology tag line prominently displayed:

        “The comic said Cruise “is a glorious man, and is very kind and sweet” – with the addendum, “That’s what you got to say if you want to continue to work in the film industry.”

        I regard his Daily Show appearance as a mini-Streisand as the Brand scion stuff is hitting way higher on google than his Oblivion PR blitz

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Jesus H.Christ… there are 450+ comments on this thread. i can’t find my ASS….and that is sayin’ something!

    • Bella Legosi

      Yup now I know why Disqus is acting up……..for real HAL should really get it together and know by now this is gonna be par for the course!

  • Artoo45

    What a bastard that little man is. It’s time for a clambake . . .

    • Bella Legosi

      Clams are just gross…….seriously

      • Observer

        Agreed!

      • Spackle Motion

        They are tolerable when fried, no?

        Just about anything is tolerable when breaded and fried….that’s my motto, anyway.

        • Bella Legosi

          nope not for this Italian, Irish, Eskimo, I deviate from my bloodline completely when it comes to that stuff, cant get past the texture

          • BuryTheNuts2

            RaW clams rock…steamed.ahh

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Reully…i eat steamed clams one a week…for real!

        • Bella Legosi

          I try to avoid ALL clams entirely, *gag* the only clam one should eat is well…. :D let’s just say it isn’t from the ocean :D

    • Douglas D. Douglas
  • Observer

    Holly Hunter, that’s who Shelly reminds me of. It was driving me nuts.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…Very good call!
      especially the sit down pic!
      Oh yeah!

      • Captain Howdy

        HAH! Beat you both too it! You should have just asked me.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          since when did you get shy ;)

        • Observer

          Easy to say that now! :-p

    • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

      Spookly the closest approximation pic I could find was from The Firm…. where she co-starred with Tom Cruise…..

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yep.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Freakin serious eh!

      • Bella Legosi

        “Don’t you come back here without a baby H. I. They got more then they can handle!” lol freaking love Raising Arizona, never gets old

        • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

          the bit where he he gets out of the car and robs the store for Huggies and gets chased by dogs etc is probably the best example of an extended narrative editing sequence without speech ever put put on film. I selected it when we were asked to bring in an example of good editing while I was at uni …. lecturer, class etc raved about it all term [semester yo you guys]. I’ve often thought who would be the ideal people to make a ‘proper’ movie about scientology and always concluded that Coen brothers would be ideal as they would be both writers and directors and some of their ‘psycho’ characters have been outstanding – I see a lot of Anton Chigurh in Miscavige.

          • Bella Legosi

            Right on! I never noticed that in the chase sequence, although the other hilarious line in that scene is “Boy you got a panty on your head” lmao still cracks me up and I have seen that movies more times I can count! Good point about Anton Chigurh too!

            • Bella Legosi

              I still liken Demented Midget to Caligula….aka Little Boots :D

          • Bella Legosi

            try to find the movie, “The Profit” that IS a movie about Scientology made by a member who blew I believe. It was banned until the internet came and let us have some freedom

      • hogarthian

        That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kim.obrien.775 Kim O’Brien

    for some reason ..i always imagined Shelly as plain , maybe a little dumpy, but solid . One of those “corn fed women” . I did not know she was so attractive and tiny so i am a little surprised . There is an edginess so her though …like Pat Benetar ( sp? ) or something. I bet she did not wish to be the wife of a cult leader when she was a little girl . She just should have been a dominatrix ….she looks good for the part and she would have gotten paid to bring men to their knees ( without all that LRH bullshit )

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Kim, this is you at your most profound and empathic.
      Suckin on a blunt are ya?

      • http://www.facebook.com/kim.obrien.775 Kim O’Brien

        so am i so i guess i better keep drinking if i want to be profound and empathetic ;) ( or empathic LOL )

    • hogarthian

      ‘Corn fed’…. lol fabulous! Sadly for her though, not free range eh?

  • BuryTheNuts2

    500 plus comments!!!!
    Shelly Rocks i guess!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kim.obrien.775 Kim O’Brien

    total side note – but YEAH for the kiwis in New Zealand for passing marriage rights for our LGBT family !!! Maurice Williamson is a rock star on this !!

  • BuryTheNuts2

    MMMM must take a sabatical..or whateves…mmmmmmmmmm

    • Guest

      I understand. Took some meds for my back an hour or so ago and now my brain is definitely on slow mo

      • Bella Legosi

        case in point i deleted this once i saw my mistake! no more posting when i take meds on empty stomach!

        • hogarthian

          No…BIG mistake!… I always make sure to line my tummy with an obscenely large glass of red before I pop my codeine …. (but only on special occasions, mind!) ;-)

          • Bella Legosi

            I tend to do the same but with some beer! Good to know i am not alone in my habits!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              This bunker needs its own rehab center!!!

              I would probably do about as well as Lindsay Lohan!

            • Bella Legosi

              lol naw take sabbaticals! I find them much more rewarding.

    • sugarplumfairy

      NO, BURYTHENUTS2, NO!!!!!!!!!!

      No sabbaticals!!!! Report for duty as usual!!!

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I just meant sleeping it off…lol

    • hogarthian

      hahahah! Looks like I missed of bit of a school-night party in the bunker last night!

      • Bella Legosi

        I missed out to but i was trying to take a little break. There is something aboit the materials that fuck wih me more so then other entrys

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Oh yeah…Mr. Nuts was force feeding me rum shots trying to get a touch assist.!!!

  • sugarplumfairy

    Shelly’s gorgeous!

    • TheNextMrsTomCruise

      Pretty, but in a bitchy way.

  • sketto

    Thought for the day:

    Hey David Miscavige, go fuck yourself, you shitty little coward, you.

    • Bella Legosi

      May he be cursed with severe jock itch that turns into a yeast infection requiring antibiotics and on his way out of the hospital hit by a mack truck going 65mp and after that a buzzard shitting on his dead body! :)

      • Bella Legosi

        and I don’t care if he thinks he has OT power, when you got dick rot you will see a real doc!

      • Mrs Libnish

        He wouldn’t take antibiotics, so may that yeast infection be the end of him. Youwza!!!

        • osofine

          Er, antibiotics don’t get rid of yeast infection – in fact they tend to cause them. [Google “antibiotics yeast”] He’d need an anti-fungal, which I bet he’d take along with any other drug he needed because he’s a hypocritical fuckhead. ;>

          • Scott Babcock

            Its the thought that counts XD

  • Bella Legosi

    saw this just now thought you all would like to read

    http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/real_estate/2013/04/alexandra-hotel-church-of-scientology.html

    sorry if it was posted already

  • DodoTheLaser

    I just hope Shelly is not Sec Checked to death by now.
    Because it’s entirely possible, both figuratively and literally.
    This is beyond volunteer “confessionals”, it’s a forced mind ABUSE.
    Frightening.

  • yaldabaoth1

    Miscavige is the classical psychopath. Tis’ as simple as that.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Shelly was no angel (no one is), but I pray for her.

  • BosonStark

    I had a conspiratorial thought. What if Shelly were dead, and DM arranged to have this story leaked to Tony?

    However, the details about delayed marriages, seem confirmed by people on base, and it supports Jeff Hawkins’ idea of a marriage being an alliance, that Miscavige can’t afford to risk in his underlings. Married couples will either ally against him or blow together. As crazy as it sounds, a couple’s longing to be together, will probably keep them in the cult and following orders.

    When Hubbard died, it opened up opportunities for not only DM, but for people like Rinder and Rathbun to climb in crazy cult, to positions they considered important for “clearing the planet.” Now, it seems that with the fear most Sea Org members have of DM, there would be fewer people who want to get in positions closer to Miscavige. They wouldn’t see the unlimited opportunity that R&R saw.

    People feared Hubbard too, but he was Source, so there was more reason for the awe to balance out the fear. I can’t see that Miscavige can command that much awe as Keeper of the Source.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bob.gravlin Bob Gravlin

      It must be remembered that controlling relationships is one of the hallmarks of a cult.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bob.gravlin Bob Gravlin

    And they thought they were entering the “Bridge to Freedom” and instead they ended up in the land of Mordor and the eyes of Sauron were watching them all the while!

  • SK

    I find this a very accurate account and your source information valid. Good for you.

  • cc423

    How is it legal to keep so many people prisoner in California?

  • Flaccido Domingo

    Something about the font here makes the site a bit uncomfortable to read. Maybe it’s just my untreated eye-Thetans.

  • kelly

    this is crazy… were are the police???? I mean do something these people are F-in CRAZZZZY!!!!

  • disqus_1cTVU3dkZo

    I was on set at many a “King of Queens” tapings. Leah Remini always had an entourage of at least a dozen ‘church handlers’, as we normal folk called them. At LEAST a dozen. Seems anyone who’s high profile is forced to have these human buffers to keep outsiders from influencing any of their golden geese. PS – we could always tell the handlers from her family or friends. Just something in their eyes. No protein, maybe? Who knows. Something spooky. They seem too focused.

    • Scott Babcock

      Its called brainwashing.

  • Between the Lines

    With all this going on on US soil, one has to wonder why Americans are so obsessed with muslims.
    The danger lies within.

  • http://www.exposingmilabs.blogspot.com/ Exposing Milabs

    Where are Shelly’s siblings and parents in this?! Can’t someone in her close family demand that she be produced or are they Scientologists too? This group is clearly being protected by some pretty high up govt. officials, that much is clear!

    • Eclipse-girl

      I know this is a year old.

      Shelly parent’s are dead. Shelly was released with a handler to attended her father’s funeral in 2007 (i think that is the date)
      Her sister, I believe her only sibling, is still in the Sea Org.

      Shelly was raised in scientology and she and her sister joined SO as young teens.

      • http://www.exposingmilabs.blogspot.com/ Exposing Milabs

        Please allow 24 hours and sometimes more for a response. If this is urgent, please red flag your email and put urgent in the heading. Thanks, RUBY

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