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LISA MARIE PRESLEY ON SCIENTOLOGY: “CRAZY CRIMINAL PEOPLE”

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Lisa Marie Presley is inching ever closer to speaking publicly about leaving Scientology. And yesterday, she seemed to take a pretty big move in that direction.

In April of last year, we first pointed out that a new song by Lisa Marie contained words a Scientologist in good standing would never use. The song was “You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet,” and it was released ahead of the album Storm and Grace. Based on those lyrics, we said it was pretty likely that longstanding rumors were true and Lisa Marie had left the church.

A month later, we obtained from her label the lyrics to the rest of the album’s songs, and revealed that the words in the song “So Long” no longer left any doubt that Lisa Marie had left Scientology behind.

This here is a city without lights
Those are all the people without eyes
Churches, they don’t have a soul
Soup for sale without a bowl
Religion so corrupt and running lives
Farewell, fair weathered friends
I can’t say I’ll miss you in the end

In the year since, we’ve received further confirmation from our celebrity sources that Lisa Marie Presley has, indeed, given up on Scientology. But she has not spoken publicly about it, and generally, when reporters ask her about the lyrics of her songs, she’s offered only vague stories about leaving a group of people who had been holding her back.

Yesterday, however, the CBS-distributed show with the unfortunate name omg! Insider interviewed Presley at Graceland, and co-anchor Kevin Frazier asked her once again about the lyrics to “So Long.” (For some reason, he got the name wrong, calling it “Sticks and Stones,” which is another song on the album, but the lyrics on the screen are definitely from “So Long.”)

Although the word “Scientology” is never uttered by Frazier or Presley, it’s only too obvious that her answer is all about leaving the church. And what an answer.

 

 
Here’s what she said:

Kevin: What’s that about?

Lisa Marie: Well, it’s pretty self-explanatory.

Kevin: But when you were writing it, what was going through your mind?

Lisa Marie: There was a point in my life where no one would ever tell me anything bad. No one was telling me what was happening or what was going on, really. So I had a very obscure and actually completely blocked view of reality for a very long time. So, when I got rid of all these nuts in my life and these, whatever they’re crazy criminal people, away, that I was like, OK, I’m going to go find out what’s really going on out there.

Like other ex-Scientologists, Presley describes what it’s like to be inside the church’s bubble, kept from what’s really happening in the world. Other church members tell us that at some point, they became aware of the corruption in the church, and then became determined to learn what was really going on.

Said former Scientology spokesman, Mike Rinder, when he saw this video last night, “She is less circumspect than I have heard her before about her views of the church.”

She certainly is. We’ve been told she’s not more vocal because she doesn’t want to lose contact with members of her family who are still in the church. As we’ve shown time and again at this website, people who dare leave Scientology often find themselves “declared” a “suppressive person,” and church members who want to remain in good standing then have to cut off all ties with that “SP,” even if it means splitting up families.

Actress Leah Remini managed to keep her family intact when she left Scientology this summer. Can Lisa Marie eventually do the same?

 
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Four Days to Super Power — And Look At This View!

With just four days to go until Scientology dedicates its new “cathedral” in Clearwater, Florida, we were sent this view of the Super Power Building from an angle we’ve never seen before.

 
SuperPowerBow

As you can see, this photo was taken from inside one of the most holy places in Scientology’s earthly existence, the Fort Harrison Hotel! Looking over Fort Harrison Avenue from what looks like the fifth or sixth floor of the hotel, in the lower left you can see the air bridge that connects the two buildings. And yes, you can see the big bow on the Super Power Building, so you know this was taken in the last day or so. That’s so cool!

With hardly any notice at all, Scientologists are being asked to drop everything and get themselves to Flag (the name church members use for their complex in Clearwater). The following e-mail was sent to one of our celebrity sources inside the church, and gives you some idea of the big rush…

We are now only a few days away from the most HISTORIC event EVER in our history and the opening of the New Flag Building with the release of Super Power and the Cause Resurgence Rundown!

Thousands of Scientologists are flying in from 53 different countries to attend the live event and you are invited!

If there was ever a time to come to Flag to celebrate the biggest event, it is NOW!

We are fully set up and prepared to arrive YOU to Flag for this historic occasion. There are currently over 40 people standing by to help you with any of your questions regarding accommodations, transportation, meal arrangement, or any other aspect of the trip.

Time is of the essence – please respond today so we can arrange ALL logistics and accommodations for your stay.

If you have any questions you can email me or reach me by phone at 1800-233-FLAG. Can’t wait to see you here.

Sincerely,

Meagan Tucker
Dir Public Relations FSO

 
We’re very confident of this e-mail’s provenance and of the source that forwarded it to us. But that’s not always the case.

Yesterday, some readers were taken in by an e-mail that turned out to be another unfunny hoax sent out by a group calling itself “Thetaburst.org.”

We’re all for satire here at the Underground Bunker, but the fake Scientology e-mails sent out by Thetaburst aren’t funny, and they just end up making more work for us as some of our loyal tipsters rush to get them to us.

It’s usually pretty easy to spot these fakes. In this case, “AssistantRegistrar” — one of Thetaburst’s giveaway names — claimed that the Super Power opening had been moved back to December 29.

“The event is being postponed to give the City of Clearwater 6 weeks lead time for the necessary permits,” the e-mail said. Hardy har har.

So who is Thetaburst? Karen de la Carriere and her husband Jeffrey Augustine have been accused of being behind the hoaxes, but we’re convinced that isn’t the case.

We’re not certain who is behind the hoax e-mails, but recently we had an interesting exchange with a man named Dave LaCroix.

On October 3, LaCroix sent us an e-mail which began, “I created the website www.scientolipedia.org and will be publishing a major biography about Yvonne Gillham Jentzsch in a couple weeks.”

The Yvonne Gilham article was published, and it has a wealth of information about Scientology in the 1970s. But we told LaCroix that about the same time he had reached out to us, we learned that another e-mail was being sent around promoting the Yvonne Gilham article, and it encouraged readers to send their own remembrances of her to the e-mail address “biographer@thetaburst.org”

When we asked LaCroix about that, he responded, “Why do you want to know?”

“I’m curious about the connection between scientolipedia.org and thetaburst.org that the e-mail implies,” we told him.

“I’ll be glad to answer any questions about the story but not about my marketing strategies,” he responded. We sent him a follow-up question, but it was the last we heard from him.

Is LaCroix behind the Thetaburst fake e-mails? Whoever it is, we just wish it would stop. They’re just not funny.

 
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SUPER POWER COUNTDOWN: 4 Days to Go!

With Scientology’s “Super Power Building” opening this Sunday, we’re counting down the days with some of the wild schematics of contraptions that were planned for the space-aged fifth floor. Today, we remember when we were first looking at one particular part of the floor plan and noticed a somewhat egg-shaped space on the right side with the strange name “Endocrine States”…

 
EndocrineStates

 
Later, we found this wild cutaway view of the room, which apparently features some sort of tilt-a-whirl apparatus to rock a person back and forth…

 
EndocrineStatesCutaway

 
How such an apparatus would help to hone your endocrine system is a mystery to us, but here’s another view for the engineers out there to ponder…

 
EndocrineMotion

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 13, 2013 at 07:00

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  • media_lush

    someone posted the TMZ story earlier about Mark Wahlberg going off on Cruise and the actors comparing themselves to soldiers thing….. they’ve now updated it and have the actual video where he said this http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/13/mark-wahlberg-tom-cruise-comparing-acting-fighting-war-afghanistan-afi-fest-movie-premiere/

    • Captain Howdy

      Fucking A…Go Dot!

      • Sherbet

        LOL. But, as you said the other day, we don’t really know TC’s exact quote, do we? I think it’s funny how the story took on a life of its own, but the doofus probably didn’t say the Afghanistan story exactly as rumored.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      That just makes him even sexier.

    • media_lush

      “But this is Tom Cruise we’re talking about! He’s practically a whole chapter in your therapists reference guide to self-absorbed delusion. ”

      ….. see Michael K’s take on this

      http://dlisted.com/2013/11/13/marky-mark-will-remove-you-from-his-christmas-card-list-if-youre-an-actor-who-compares-himself-to-a-soldier/

    • Verve

      From ‘Marky Mark’ to a great actor with brains. That vid just pumped up my respect for him +5.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Trust me, I don’t like TC in any way, shape or form, but I think he was actually referencing the similarities of time away from his child that a soldier in Afghanistan might spend. They spend months away from their kids… and aren’t criticised for it. And so they shouldn’t be, either. That’s the job they chose to do to support their family…
      What pisses me off, of course, is that Tom Cruise has his private jet and the star pull to be able to say – I’m going to go visit my daughter here, here and here (when scheduling the making of these movies) and he DIDN’T do so! That’s the disrespect, right there. Any and Every one of those servicemen in Afghanistan or other war zone would jump at the opportunity! So his schedule was ‘brutal’… that’s what he meant… but carry on… I’m as happy to see this runaway freight-train of TC tear down as the next disgusted TC film boycotter. :)

  • Madora Pennington

    I want a life where no one ever tells me anything bad that’s going on and I never have to deal with problems!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      How much money do you have,….I may be able to arrange it.
      😉

  • Robert Eckert

    This needs to be posted often for anyone contemplating a trip to Clearwater for The Most Historic Event In The Universe. (Thanks, Eclipse Girl, for getting to it yesterday).

    Advice from Reality Scamz

    • This post has been repeatedly flagged; obviously it genuinely worries OSA so it needs to be reposted often

    Always have a video camera or regular camera Ready at a Moments Notice.

    If possible go with a more than 1 person

    Park 6-8 blocks out of the downtown area (Not Whole Foods lot)

    Use a BUS you can check the schedule at http://www.psta.net/index.php

    DO NOT USE A TAXI

    Use a different route to enter and exit the area. When leaving take your time, stop for coffee or browse a few blocks away. Make some turns and keep eyes open.

    Clearwater PD is well aware of Wearing a Mask, just put it on a few blocks before you get there.

    Consider bringing Water and possible a backpack with a Hat, , Different shirt, Sunglasses, Knit Cap; You can hide your hair underneath, also Big Sunglasses, (if No Mask Wanted)

    They will VIDEO YOU the less of your body they see the Better.

    Google Maps is your friend

    Once you get there even with an Anon do not tell people your real name, they will not be offended.

    After you get there Anon’s (Probably Guy Fawkes Masks) can probably give you further information. Guy Fawkes masks can be gotten at http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_7?url=search-alias%3Dapparel&field-keywords=guy%20fawkes%20mask&sprefix=guy+faw%2Caps%2C292

    You can also go to Why We Protest, if you have trouble finding information ask a MOD

    Bella Lugosi also posts advice:

    To anyone thinking about showing up for a protest;

    1. Buddy up. Never protest alone.

    2. Make sure your batteries on the camera/phone is charged. Video/voice recordings take a lot out of battery life.

    3. Know your local statutes regarding what is public vs. private property lines. Respect them.

    4. Don’t get on the bad side of Clearwater PD! If you believe a cop is being a bastard just record and post! Like wise with Clams!

    5. Have F U N! It’s not everyday you got front row seats to the Tipping Point!

    6. Do some reseasrch on high level Clams and OSA. Know your Cultie!

    7. Ask questions!

    RS has these sign suggestions (remember, you only have seconds to get through to a Sea Org member):

    Communication is the Universal Solvent..Why Will You Not Talk To Me?

    Are you Getting what they Promised when you Joined?

    Sea Org you are not Even Clear

    What if We Are Telling The Truth & Scientology is Lying? Dare you Ask?

    When was Your Last Lib

    When was Your Last Phone Call Home that Was Not Monitored

    Why Do You Have To Leave Your Mail Enveloped Open, So OSA Can Read it First!

    You are Your Body

    You are Your Mind

    What’s your Retirement Plan?

    Your Family Misses you

    You Didn’t Pull It In, It Pulled You In

    Homo Novis No you Are Just Like Us

    The Truth Is Free

    You Can Do Whatever You Want

    You Can Say Whatever You Want

    Doubt Is not a Crime

    1-866-X SEA ORG

    Why Are So Many Declared

    Don’t Route Out, Just Blow..Help is Available…We Love you

    • Jefferson Hawkins

      A few more sign suggestions:

      “It’s no longer the group you joined, is it?” (I don’t know how many exes have told me that this was the realization that caused them to leave)

      “The way out is the way out” (A play on the Scientologist maxim “The way out is the way through”)

      • OrangySky

        Another great and wise saying….that Hubbard PLAGIARIZED!

        Robert Frost: in “A Servant to Servants:” “The best way out is always through”

        from “North of Boston,” 1914

        http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Servant_to_Servants

        Yes. Hubbard stole that line as well.

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Well really there’s no other way OUT of something unless at some point you go THROUGH it. The statement itself is a lesson in meaningless words.

          • OrangySky

            I’ve heard that maxim many times, long before I knew LRH said it. That’s how I knew he didn’t originate it. My grandmother used to read Robert Frost to me.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              It’s one of those oddly profound-sounding statements that really has no meaning to it at all. It’s like if I said, “In order to walk, you must use your feet!”

              Every single person that reads that out of context could come up with a completely different meaning. Each meaning might sound more profound than the next. It might even change someone’s life.

              In reality, I was just describing how to walk.

            • Robert Eckert

              This game is a must-win, for both sides! And if you’re going to win a gut-check like this one, you’re going to have to put some points on the board!

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Sports announcers. The kings of meaningless words.

            • OrangySky

              If you are interviewing for a job and the supervisor has sports posters all over the wall with these motivational clichés on them…run!

            • Robert Eckert

              You know, on any given Sunday, any given team can hire any given fat lady to sing, It ain’t over til it’s over. So you can throw that record book out the window, because these teams came to play, one hundred and ten percent, one game face at a time.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              They’re going to have to give it their all to win this one. Look at that, broke the previous record for number of yards run in the first 5 minutes of the game while it was sunny outside and the ground was covered with snow on a Thursday night football game.

            • Robert Eckert

              That was the fourth most pointless statistic I’ve heard you say today, Brent!

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Well there’s plenty more where that came from, Tim!

            • Robert Eckert

              I once heard Howard Cosell come out with: “This has been some kind of football game!”

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              I have heard, “They are 7 points behind and there is two minutes on the clock. If they make a touchdown in the next two minutes we’ll be going into overtime.” Let that sink in.

            • Robert Eckert

              When the score was tied, I heard: “This game could literally come out either way.”

            • OrangySky

              I get it. It’s all in the interpretation.

              It has a profound meaning to me – in my interpretation, there are no shortcuts in life (er, like Scientology perhaps? like drugs or alcohol? like running away from your problems/issues?) No. To me it means, you gotta go through the shit in order to grow.

              But that’s just how I see it.

              Hubbard still stole it, though. Like everything else interesting about Scientology.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Interestingly enough, taking your analogy. If you do take a “shortcut” and do drugs or alcohol, you would also have to “get through” that addiction to over come it. During the entire process you are “getting through” your life.

              The best motivational phrase was told to me by my aunt around christmas time last year.

              “You play the hand that you’re dealt.”

              It has a singular meaning: Sometimes you get a royal flush, sometimes you get shit. Either way you’re stuck with it so throw it on the table.

            • Interested

              What gets me through the shit is the old wives saying” what goes up has got to come down” and out of “bad – good happens eventually, we don’t see it until time has passed”

        • Jefferson Hawkins

          It has special meaning for Scientologists. It means “no matter how bad you feel, no matter how rough things get, the ONLY answer is to continue with Scientology – continue the process, continue going up the Bridge.” It’s one of those thought-stopping phrases that explains away their pain: “just continue on and it will be all right.” Hence: “The way out is the way out.”

          • RMycroft

            What turns it on, will turn it off.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              “If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.”

              Just think how differently things could have been, if only someone had given LRH some Firesign Theatre albums…

            • Robert Eckert

              “It goes in; it must come out” — Teslicle’s Deviant to Fudd’s Law

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              What you open, will also close sometimes unless its broken.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Jefferson, do you remember the old slogan: “If it isn’t fun, it isn’t scientology”?

        How about a sign:

        Remember, if it isn’t fun, it isn’t scientology!
        Are you having fun?

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          LIKE!!!

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        “Is this still the group you were looking for?”

      • Reality Scamz

        Thank you Jefferson Hawkins & Michael Leonard, wise words are Wise:)

      • ThetaBara

        These are great, will keep in mind for Chalk Tech!

    • Reality Scamz

      Thank you Robert please do continue to post.

    • Verve

      Another question-
      “Can I borrow a dollar?”

  • DamOTclese2

    Do you want him to find you… LIKE THIS?!

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Omg, omg i love it.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Down boy! That photo is nearly 40 years old!

        • Minion Gayle

          Yes, but Tim is still beyond awesome.

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          What Gayle said VVV

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aizCMO-mI1Q

          It’s just a jump to the left. And then a step to the ri-i-i-i-iiight.

          • OrangySky

            I used to dress up like a Transylvanian and go to the midnite shows at the old Exeter theater in Boston.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Ironically, my mom did despite the fact that later Scientology would turn her into a gay-hater. Even more ironically, she used to play this sound track in the car every day and watch the video when she worked out.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              As long as we’re confessing…

              I never dressed up, but I used to keep a bag packed with a lighter, newspaper, cards, toast and candy.

            • OrangySky

              I loved to throw the toast!

            • Sherbet

              LOL. I remember. Never went. I was too prissy. Great theater, though.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              The Huntridge Theater. Las Vegas….TP in hand!

    • Verve
  • John P.

    New post up on my blog: the first in a series of articles teaching you some of the analytical
    “tricks of the trade” that we use in the halls of Global Capitalism HQ. I look
    forward to your thoughts on this article, and I look forward to your
    contributions as we work together to understand and predict the future
    trajectory of Scientology.
    Here, we look at the role of anecdotes in
    researching the cult. Anecdotes can be powerful tools to either validate or
    challenge your existing thinking. Anecdotes don’t prove trends or general
    conclusions, but they are a great tool for alerting you to possible trends,
    changes in direction, or conclusions you’ve missed. This article talks about
    how we use anecdotes on Wall Street, in some cases helping us to make (or at
    least avoid losing) billions of dollars.

    But the best part is a case
    study, with one of our commenters reporting on a great chance encounter who
    interviewed a Scientologist at length in an airport bar, as well as my quick
    take on what to do next with an anecdote that challenges some of my beliefs
    about the cult. Thanks to “B. B. Broeker” for a great interview.

    http://www.johnpcapitalist.com/2013/11/analytical-techniques-the-power-of-anecdotes/

    • OrangySky

      John P’s blog today is AMAZING – fascinating anecdote by BB Broeker, analyzed by one of the best Capitalists in the business.

      Here’s a preview: “So, a drunken Scientology Public walks into an airport bar….”

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Scientology trolling at it’s best. *refresh for image*

    • Observer

      All your airspace are belong to us!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      More idiocy. It’s “NO FLY ZONE” or “NO FLIGHT ZONE.” A non-flying zone would be a zone that is incapable of flight.

      Sigh.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        If it ‘was’ a no fly zone………The only way travolta and cruise would be surveying it is if they went exterior.
        What a loon!

        • Observer

          Someone has a big fat MU on Top Gun.

        • NOLAGirl

          We might be able to make an FAA Agent snickersnort if we let one read this. LOL :)

    • Room 101

      Refresh

    • Observer

      Where did he post this?

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        Down there somewhere. LOL

        • Observer

          I really need to stop letting work interfere with my Bunkering.

          • FromPolandWithLove

            me too… Amen

    • Captain Howdy

      “There will be a non-flying zone over Clearwater with Tom and Travolta surveying it wit jets. So be careful”

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        “a non-flying zone”

        • Captain Howdy

          He thinks the FAA gave COB special permission for Top Gun and Ole Baldy to guard the tent.

          • OrangySky

            “Old Baldy”!

            Giggling uncontrollably. You would think that an OT V (?) would at least be able to postulate hair.

    • Mark

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        OK, so the one on the left is Travolta… But who’s the one on the right?!?

        • Mark

          It has to be Krusty!

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            All that Organic Liaison is making her incontinent.

      • Sunny Sands

        Thanks for joining us, Snickersnort and Bumbo. We locals have our orders of the day, too.

    • NOLAGirl

      And they are clearly too stupid to realize this information is available to anyone, straight from the very people who enforce it. http://tfr.faa.gov/tfr2/list.html

      Nope…No Clearwater on the list. Silly, pathetic OSA. Get your data right!!! You have until 2 pm tomorrow. :)

    • Verve

      Not my best, but…

  • skippress

    David LaCroix was around Celebrity Centre a lot in the 1970s. Well-composed, always friendly and humorous guy. Sounds like a made-up name (like mine might) but it’s not. Unfortunately, as his website demonstrates, with the happy picture from the “good old days” of Celebrity Centre, he’s still brainwashed about the efficacy and “good intentions” of $cientology. It’s the same old “it just went off the rails because of personnel, Ron was really a good guy” load of bullshit they’ve used for decades. Lisa Marie came along after those days, around the time Celebrity Centre moved into “The Manor” (former Chateau Elysee) where it’s now house. I sincerely hope she gets her mother out of the cult, but knowing Priscilla as I do, I doubt she will get over her insecurities enough, and be willing to lose the brainwashed $cientology “friends” like Lisa was brave enough to do. What makes me happy is knowing that LM is probably smiling a whole lot more lately, which I almost never saw her do in the 80s.

    • SandiCorrena

      When she appeared on Watch What Happens Live they talked about how when she moved overseas that she worked for I think a week maybe serving fish and chips so she could get to know her community; how awesome is that!

  • SandiCorrena

    Harvey Levin & TMZ are just not buying TC’s & teams disclaimers; Harvey said he has viewed it three times! Just watched the show and they really talked up Mark’s comments!!!!!!!!! It was fab!

  • SignsOfSuccess

    It’s almost ready!

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Can we get one of the inside of the building please? And hasn’t it been almost ready for like 30 years.

    • OrangySky

      SoS – you are going to get RPF’d for posting that here on this SP blog.
      Now we can plan our infiltration in perfect detail, since we have the same wall from another angle.
      Thanks for this – but I really hope you don’t get in trouble.
      COB is looking for the SP/Traitor who took the first photo given to Tony’s blog right now.
      About 50 people are getting gang-bang sec checked in Flag over it.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        I’m not sure if this is some idiot Scientologist who’s gone rogue, or if its an OSA agent. Seems like a little of both?

        • Robert Eckert

          He’s been around for a long time, on Tony’s old board at Village Voice since before I found it, and YouTube etc. even before. Apparently he was off-loaded from the Sea Org and is more of a wannabe Scientologist than a real one, trying hard to do something that will make Ethics think he has helped clear the planet.

          • SandiCorrena

            He should try the red slipper approach then “there’s no place like home”. You know if the other stuff isn’t working.

          • OrangySky

            Wow. Sadder than I thought.
            So he has no supervisors to ask when I ask him to provide facts and references? Just his old dog-earned green volumes?
            Poor sod.

          • IASREG

            Exactly. Too downstat to be used for anything other than trolling the internet. Can’t even get back into the Sea Org when they are desperate, now THAT is DOWNSTAT.

          • Captain Howdy

            Marco’s been a running gag on youtube since 2008 or 2009. He would get butthurt when people accused him of not even being a real scilon.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              He probably isn’t. He probably just comes here for attention.

            • Captain Howdy

              Yea, he loves hanging around anons.

            • OrangySky

              Another thing that should go on our KR about him. Sir Hemet is working on that as we speak.

        • SignsOfSuccess

          It’s your hate toward DM and TC that makes you blind. Geez…your hatred it’s so dense that I need to put my tablet on a super cooler. Are you a member of the Headleys?

          • IASREG

            Can you make a donation to fight the hate? Let’s get started with that 50,000$ you owe.

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            Sos Marco: Do you collect sexual objects?

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            SoS Marco: Have you permitted a preclear to have secrets from you?

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Why do you want to know who I am so badly???

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Hey dumbass, your tablet is overheating because you don’t know how to use technology and neither do the Sea Org members who gave it to you. It’s so stuffed with spyware that the processor is getting hot.

            Try disinfecting it and then searching the words “Hubbard Alister Crowley”. Check it out:

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Well…I’m already here or you didn’t notice yet?

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Add that to the list: “Shit Scientologists Say”.

            • IASREG

              Nope, you haven’t made a donation yet. Let’s get your money to the IAS for KSW!!! We are not going down below 50,000$ as a starting point.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SoS, your J&D is of increasing concern that you are off mission: Have you ever been a newspaper reporter?

            • Bernie Headley

              Hey, Derek, you must be really doing it right if SOS thinks you are one of us. I can make you an honorary member of the clan if you like.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              I would be honored!! That’s the second time that SOS has called me a Headley. I take it as a compliment every time!

            • Bernie Headley

              Consider it done! You join a rather celebrated list of honorary Headleys and SPs of the highest order!

            • Robert Eckert
            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Excellent, the honor is all mine! If we were in person, I’d get down on one knee and bow my head while you tap my shoulders with a sword. For now this will do! *refresh for image*

            • OrangySky

              Like Spartacus, We Are All Headleys Here!

              (However I like the idea of knighting Derek.)

          • OrangySky

            Why bother to hate Tom Cruise? What good would that do? I can just boycott his movies.
            As for David Miscavige ( you should confess to your supervisor RIGHT NOW that you just referred to him as “DM” instead of COB or Mr. Miscavige – what horrible disrespect! You should be punished for that!)…

            …we don’t NEED to hate him. He already hates himself. See, that’s what a narcissist really feels like inside. Like an empty shell. He will destroy himself and take all of Scientology down with him…and he’s well on his way.

            We just like to eat popcorn and watch.

        • Captain Howdy

          It’s Marco the Moop

        • Jo

          Mental Gear Scientologist, oh that would be great game for the new Xbox One.

      • SignsOfSuccess

        I’m afraid that you are living in a different world (of SCN) than the real one.
        But it’s understandable after all those BS you have been fed by anti-SCN propaganda.

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Hey you live in a different world. Explains why you’re so stupid you still believe in the crap you are being spoon fed out of David Miscavige’s ass. The fact that you are actually reading the articles here just goes to show that chinks have already appeared in your mental armor. A few weeks, or maybe 3 months from now you’ll feel like a complete idiot and turn into a total wreck because you’ve wasted so much goddamn money.

          • OrangySky

            It may take longer with SoS/Marcos. I think he’s really stuck in an electronic incident –

            you know, the one where you BELIEVE ANYTHING TO COME OUT OF LRH’S FISHY LIPS!!!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Uh, I think you mean “proper gander.” As in, a righteous goose.

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          SoS Marco: Have you been sent here knowingly to injure Scientology?

        • IASREG

          In the real world of SCN you are downstat. Let’s make that 50,000$ donation. That is the real world of SCN.

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          SoS Marco: What do you wish you hadn’t done?

        • Sibs

          Hey, so, yesterday you never told me about your family. I seriously want to know what kind of family you have as a Scientologist, not trying to find them or get you into trouble. Although if you don’t answer then I’ll assume you would get into trouble if you talked about them and I’ll back off.

          • SignsOfSuccess

            Just a normal and great family,

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Sos: Have you ever made yourself sick or hurt yourself to make somebody in your family sorry?

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Who calls their family “great”? That’s the most bullshit adjective that I have ever heard used to describe family. Your friends are “great” too? I had a great soup for lunch and a great dinner too.

              You don’t have any family, and it makes you sad. You don’t want to admit it because you know it will make you look pathetic and weak. You know you don’t have any friends either. There are people that pretend to be your friends, but REAL friends stick with you. Your friends are fairweather friends. Only around as long as you are in Scientology.

            • Robert Eckert

              Are you married? Any kids? Are your parents still around? How many brothers and/or sisters? Are you in contact with any grandparents, aunts or uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews, in-laws?

            • Sibs

              (you beat me to it. heehee)

            • Sibs

              But what kiiiiind of family? Are you close to your parents? Do you have a wife/husband? Are you close to your siblings, if you have any?

        • Observer

          You’re saying LRH’s teachings are anti-Scn BS? Because it’s his writings, and nothing else, that made me anti-Scn.

          I want to make clear that while I am anti-Scientology and anti-LRH I am not anti-Scientologist. The plight of the people in the Sea Org (anyone who isn’t an executive, anyway), and especially the Sea Org children, breaks my heart. Even what you have been through to make you what you are right now–a slave to the evil purposes of LRH and DM–saddens me. I genuinely hope you will open your eyes and see the lies your church has been telling you. The secrets it’s hiding from you are coming into plain sight for everyone outside the church–and it’s ugly.

          • OrangySky

            Thank you for saying this.

            No one on this blog – and I feel safe in saying this – hates individual “Scientologists” as people. There’s a Christian saying, “Hate the sin, love the sinner.” Scientology is “the sin” here. It is a sick system of mind control that steals souls, empties wallets, kills hopes and dreams, decimates families. And yes, from time to time, it kills – for real.

            I would have to say, some of the most amazing people I have met through this blog – in person and in cyberspace – are ex-Scientologists. Beautiful, strong, courageous people who are so much stronger and committed now that they are free. People who had an inner voice and an innate sense of justice and TRUE ethics (not LRH “Ethics” – a disgusting and unforgiveable aberration of that word and concept!) that would not be extinguished, even when everyone in their world was telling them they were wrong, crazy, evil. Even when they were being punished for speaking the truth. They KNEW what was right and good, and eventually they acted on it.

            I’m sure there are Scientologists who are at the core nasty people – on the average in any group, you’re going to get some good ‘uns and some bad ‘uns (an indirect reference to Lord of the Flies, which we were discussing in the Bunker literary corner yesterday). But if someone is being abused by the church, the odds are that s/he is a good person in a horrible situation and deserves to be helped and not judged when s/he decides to come out.

      • IASREG

        He can’t be RPF’ed right now, he failed to get back into the Sea Org after being kicked out for being chronically downstat and CI to COB.

        • OrangySky

          Wow. That’s like, lowest of the low. Someone who is reminiscing over the “good old days” of the RPF.

          • IASREG

            He has been in the RPF. Probably the RPF of the RPF. He is Marco….downstat.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              LOL, in here there are more RPF failures than I previously thought!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SoS Marco: Have you ever gotten yourself dirty on purpose?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Sir, your TR 3 sucks!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              I understand. But have you ever gotten yourself dirty on purpose?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              FLUNK! You forgot; “I repeat the auditing question”

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              I hear what you are saying. But the point is, have you been sent here knowingly to injure Scientology?

            • IASREG

              I’ll repeat the auditing question. SoS Marco: Have you ever cheated?

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Ok, I got that, Marco SoS. But what do you wish you hadn’t done?

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SoS, I don’t think you are taking this seriously. It is more important than you realize.
              Please respond: Do you know of any plans to injure a Scientology Organization?

            • IASREG

              Answer the auditing questions Downstat! I’ll put in a good word for you IF you make a 50,000$ donation TODAY, for real, but I WANT that 10% commission first.

            • IASREG

              SoS Marco: Have you ever cheated?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Like David Miscavige and Laurisse kind of cheated?
              Or you mean like on your taxes?

            • IASREG

              For Marco it is more about MONEY, money he refuses to pay. One of the reasons why he WON’T be at the events at Flag.

            • Room 101

              It’s not Marco. That’s just a fb account OSA is using.

            • IASREG

              It probably is Marcotai/SoS aka Downstat. He has been failing for a long time. Perhaps others have access to his socks, but this is most likely Downstat Marcotai.

            • Room 101

              I know for sure whoever it is is working at the Clearwater Bank Building in Clearwater. It’s run by Kathy True and Roger in OSA. It’s definitely not a public as they are banned from any blog such as this – declares are imminent for such a crime. I think I can figure out who it is with a little more hunting.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Do it, to it~!

            • SignsOfSuccess

              LOL at “Clearwater Bank Building in Clearwater”.

            • Room 101

              LOL at “LOL at “Clearwater Bank Building in Clearwater”

            • Robert Eckert

              LOL at “LOL at “LOL at “Clearwater Bank Building in Clearwater”””

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SOS: Have you ever forged a signature, cheque, or document?

            • IASREG

              Speaking of the bank, how is your credit line. Not so good, huh? Where can you find THE MONEY?

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              LOL ME SCIENTOLOGIST ME LAUGH AT PEOPLE WHO DON’T BELIEVE IN ZINO

            • IASREG

              Marcotai has been wanting back in but he sucks so bad and is such a downstat that even those downstat losers don’t really want him.

            • Room 101

              Nah nothin like that. It’s OSA.

            • Robert Eckert

              I don’t know. He has been trying to figure out the identity of someone who posts videos under his real name with his face front and center. That’s speaks to a level of dumbness we usually don’t see in secret agents.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Right? Like what in the hell. OSA should be all over my identity by now. I thought they had a huge file on me somewhere with flashdrives and print outs and stuff.

            • IASREG

              He isn’t OSA, more a wannabe that has failed repeatedly. So dumb he WANTS to get back into the Sea Org but can’t.

            • Room 101

              In that case, he’s absolutely nuts.

              But it takes a special type of stupid to get kicked out of a cult and then go through ex cult websites to get back into original cult good standing.

              I just know that it’s not Marco. For the amount of activity he has online here, his FB just looks like a shill.

              Plus, Marco on his FB page is even worse at spelling and grammar than he is on here.

            • IASREG

              People have been saying that about him for years! Imagine, to have failed in the Sea Org, been RPF’ed, tried to get back in the Sea Org, got rejected and is still trying. NUTS

            • Room 101

              Still doesn’t add up. He has access to building renderings, knows every single black PR link to every defector brought up on this blog, knows the history of all aspects Scientology and spews their dead agent taglines like the back of his hand. It smacks of OSA in the biggest way.

            • IASREG

              He has been trolling for years so he knows the talking points and links. He might have handlers in OSA but he is just a goof. He couldn’t cut it in the Sea org, there is no way they would actually allow him to be official OSA, more of a dupe and rube that is used for the simplest tasks, which he always fails at.

            • Room 101

              Yeah, well that’s all OSA does – handles dupes to do their hairbrained bidding. I was heavily invovled with them and their ideas are crazy to the hilt. I could list a hundred of their ideas and one day I’m sure it will win them the Darwin Award of the Fucking Century. I just don’t see a human being that calculatingly defensive about a religion that wants nothing to do with him. And if he wasn’t handled by OSA, they would find out who he was so quick and threaten him with a lawsuit. Either way, a pathetic soul sits behind that computer of his moniker.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              How many sox did Bill Yaude have or have? Right?

            • OrangySky

              Tory knows a lot about this. Where is that adorable bundle of sunshine tonight?

            • OrangySky

              So there is a small regiment of OSA stooges in the bank building, each assigned to certain blogs? I am really fascinated by their ( very bizarre ) espionage protocols.

              LRH’s were crazy and diabolical. The ones we’re seeing today seem to be crazy and Rube Goldberg-esque.

            • Room 101

              OSA’s office is above and behind the Clearwater Bank Building. They catalogue all usernames along with their comments. Then they have people working full time to identifying individuals they feel are a threat. I haven’t exactly been very secretive with what I say on here so I’m sure they’ve already got me named..

            • Room 101

              Also, his FB friends are such a hodgepodge of random Scientologists from everywhere along with a bunch of random non Scientologists. The causes he supports are so disconnected and random in tons of different countries, from Russia to India to fucking Brazil and then Spain. He has very little in the way of FB photos and the girl he claims he’s in a relationship with is a super super broke Hindu follower who posts prayers about Allah. With all that, I really don’t believe he’s just a weird ex trying to make his way back in.

            • IASREG

              Mostly his weird shore stories, he is a pathological liar like LRH.

            • OrangySky

              True that – I remember the few times Marco was at VV, his spelling was frightening. SoS isn’t going to win any Spelling Bees (and his usage is for shit) but he does seem slightly less – disjointed – shall we say?

            • OrangySky

              Room 101, perhaps you can answer an OSA-related question for me, somewhere off campus?

            • Room 101

              I could do this

            • OrangySky

              Please do, Room 101. I really love your stealth and your deep insider info. I have a little wanna-be Mata Hari in me, you see! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5DVB3iIxAw

            • Room 101

              I like your style, though I’m not a dancer myself :)

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              I hear your concern. But lets get back to point, SoS Marco: Have you ever decided you did not like some member
              of your family?

            • IASREG

              You should know. Now let’s get the ball rolling on that IAS donation. Say, why aren’t you coming to Flag for the events?

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SoS Marco: How do you feel about being controlled?

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SoS Marco: Have you ever cheated?

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SoS Marco: Have you ever decided you did not like some member
              of your family?

            • Hara

              Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

            • OrangySky

              Hara, I see what you did there! 😉

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oeb8nhNJOU

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      If the wind comes up and the decorations flee, will they have a “Bow” drill ready/

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        A “Bow Blow Drill”

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          OMG! The bows are… blowing!

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            They’ll just have to switch on the electronics in the ribbons and pull all the Blowing Thetans back into the theatre for ‘re-orientation’, henceforth known as “Incident Three”.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Tom Cruise and John Travolta will be flying the DC-8 using Miscavige’s special joystick.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              With all the turbulence it will be a long hard pull to get him to come for a landing.

            • Observer

              Unsee unsee unsee

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Sorry. :-)

            • Observer

              You are not, you fibber!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      And about time!

      Will you be attending the festivities in Clearwater?

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      SoS Marco: Are you here for a different purpose than you say?

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      SoS Marco: Have you ever smuggled anything?

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      SoS Marco: Have you even wanted something every much, but never
      told anybody about it?

    • IASREG

      Not thanks to YOU you worthless POS deadbeat degraded being! When will you confirm to come to Flag for the events? Oh, you aren’t approved!!! Where is the MONEY?

    • Captain Howdy

      And it’s only a decade late and $150 million over budget. You eejits have much to be proud of.

      • KJP in Portland

        swindlers, crooks, psychopaths, snake-oil salesmen, quacks,

        you guys make used car salesmen look like a paragon of virtue.

        If you’r 2nd generation – i’m surprised, SOS. you should’ve been one of their abortions.

    • Artoo45

      Which building won first place?

    • Jo

      Did you post Tony the photo of the Super Power Building? That was nice.

      • IASREG

        That’s why this PTS SP won’t donate!!! KR!

    • Verve

      Indeed.

    • KJP in Portland

      Yep, I see the wrecker’s ball in 3-5 years. We’re all ready for that!

  • Truthiwant

    Maybe a few of you here can not believe that Lisa Marie Presley didn’t know anything about what was, in fact, actually going on in Scientology.

    Well, here’s what really happens…

    One of the ways that Scientology manage to control their believers is to tell you never to read the newspapers or to watch the television or in more recent times, to not look on the internet.

    Scientology’s explanation for this is quite simple. They say that newspaper articles or television programmes or the internet are full of ‘entheta’ ( a Scientologese word that means enturbulated theta, which means upsetting news or information).

    Scientology say that any ‘entheta’ will impede your progress up the bridge.

    Hence it is prohibited for a Scientologist to read newspapers or freely watch the television or look at internet sites.

    All Sea Org members, and incrediby, almost all public Scientologists, abide by this rule.

    The Scientologists, are told that all the stories of ‘death’, ‘war’, ‘rape’, ‘drugs’ or the like in the newspapers or on the TV or on the inetrnet are one of the fundamental reasons for not progressing up the bridge.

    Hence Scientologists do not read newspapers or watch the television or click on the internet.

    However, obviously there is a big lie in this allegation.

    The REAL truth is that Scientology do not want their members to read newspapers, watch the television or look at the internet, NOT because there are disturbing and violent stories on them, but because they are afraid there might be somewhere a negative article or documentary about Scientology.

    Scientology could not give a damn that their members read violent articles or watch distressing documentaries. ALL they are interested in is that their members do NOT look at ANYTHING negative said against Scientology.

    I can only guess that Lisa Marie Presley abided by these rules like all the others

    • SignsOfSuccess

      Those are not rules! it’s only be advised especially when you have to go in session.
      I haven’t seen one single SCNist with no TV or smart phone.
      Time to get over that BS.

      • Sibs

        (What-kind-of-Scientologist-doesn’t-have-to-go-into-session-cough!)

        • IASREG

          Mr. David Miscavige, COB, he doesn’t audit and hasn’t for years!

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        How about all sea org members? Watching TV is prohibited in the Sea Org. So are personal cell phones.

        You are so dumb. So very, very dumb. *refresh for image*

      • IASREG

        Sure you have, in the Sea Org. Now about that donation. Are you reluctant because of your freeloader debt? You have to pay that back as well as making up for your failures with a donation to the IAS. Let’s get that donation.

      • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

        SoS. Let’s go over this again and get some more data. This is important for clearing the planet, which you are not taking seriously. ANSWER THIS: Do you know of any plans to injure a Scientology Organization?

        • OrangySky

          He definitely knows of such plans. He’s in the midst of them every day here, and over at WWP where he lurks. He is playing with fire. No wonder they don’t trust him enough to let him back in the Sea Org.

        • Freethinker

          Yep. It’s time to write up a Knowledge Report on SOS.

      • Just Dee

        I really do feel sorry for you SOS. How many scientology friends would you have should you ever see the light and leave? I bet zero. However, I bet many here would still welcome you with open arms.

        • SignsOfSuccess

          I’m not that stupid like many ex-scnist in here. IF and IF I decide to leave (which is never) I would do it right in a standard manner. Only idiots get declared!

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            “Advice someone” “non-flying zone” “try eroin” “would do it right”

            You are pretty stupid. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.

          • IASREG

            I wouldn’t call your exit from the Sea Org standard. Let’s make that donation!

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            SoS, You need to give a clear indication of your dedication. You are either in, or you are not even in the stadium. RESPOND to IASREG.

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            You don’t know that Sir Burlwood is also posting here on behalf of Scientologists? He’s asking you questions because you need to answer them. He’s been very patient with you, but many a person has been declared because of him. He can find your IP and who you are in seconds.

            There are plenty of other Scientology staff that peruse this place. They will also research who you are. Unless someone here in the Bunker finds out first and posts your identity. Then you will be declared for sure.

          • OrangySky

            So you are thinking of leaving! We knew it!

            NOTE TO OSA AND SCIENTOLOGY MAA’s READING THIS –

            Signs Of Success is thinking about leaving. But he does not want to be declared. Therefore, that means he has secrets he is keeping from you, while he plans his escape.

            From what I know of Scientology, you are guilty of a multitude of crimes just by what you wrote, above.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        Do you discuss your masturbation habits in session? Or are you one of those grown up people that likes to quiz little boys on their mastubatory habits under the guise of “religious counseling”?

        Have you ever gotten horny because of a confession that a PC told you in session? Oh I bet you have you naughty, naughty auditor.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        I bet you can’t help but touch yourself when reading those 2D overts. The ones about threesomes and blow jobs. So descriptive and sexy. You ever read any S&M ones? You know where people talk about how they and their spouse tie each other up in the bedroom. I bet that was juicy.

        • SignsOfSuccess

          That is Bruce Hines, not me. You seem to be a little confused.

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Shut up and confess

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Wow I earned a down vote from you!? I must really be getting to you.

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            SoS: You need to indicate that you are onboard and not a threat. Do you know of any plans, to injure a Scientology Organization?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              You are just sitting on that plan being in here!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              OK, SoS, I got that. And you are sitting on your plan in here, with NO indication of your dedication. You do not even realize the jeapardy you are in. You must answer:
              Have you ever had any unkind thoughts about LRH?

            • IASREG

              Quit sitting on the money you owe. Pay up your Freeloader detb you POS degraded being. Then make that 50,000$ IAS donation!

          • IASREG

            Donate 50,000$ to the IAS to clear up the confusion.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Repressed much?

      • 3feetback-of-COS

        Come on, SOS, you know in scientology people are very strongly discouraged from considering anything that might be thought of as anti-scientology.

        And they claim it encourages people to think for themselves; How can one really think for oneself, when he is not allowed to research both sides of an issue?

        • SignsOfSuccess

          I strongly discourage them too. Could you advice someone you love to try eroin?

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            Come on, SoS. Let’s get serious. We need your answer: How do you feel about being controlled?

          • 3feetback-of-COS

            So are you saying that anything that conflicts with your belief system is automatically a poison? Wow that is a good mindset to keep yourself in a prison of your beliefs and shut out any other ideas, without examining them.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              There is not one single good intention to share any ideas in websites like this one.
              The only evident intention in here it’s just attacking SCN and its leaders.
              There is nothing constructive in here. It’s clear 1,1 help only.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Why are you here then?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Helping you guys see the light.

            • 3feetback-of-COS

              Any success? Why not write up a success story about it?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              I just wrote one yesterday. But I can’t post it here. Too many will eat their hands with rage.

            • 3feetback-of-COS

              yes, you can. we can take it!

            • 3feetback-of-COS

              We’d love to see what you consider a success.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Scientology works and i know it with certainty. That’s one of my greater successes!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Sos: Have you ever stolen anything from a Scientology organization?

            • OrangySky

              Then why are you here?

              If it works 100% of the time, then why have you not confronted and shattered our hostility?

              Why do you keep FAILING?

            • KJP in Portland

              No, the dry, crusty mess in your shorts is your greatest success. Please tell us you don’t have children!

            • Bernie Headley

              I believe he meant Sucksess!

            • joan nieman

              Good one Bernie!

            • NOLAGirl

              Oh yes, we’re all so terrified of his big win, we’ll just collapse in our own rage. LOL

              What an exhausting tool. I’m sure once his Thursday 2 pm report is turned in, he’ll be off to hang fake cobwebs or string twinkle lights for Davey’s Castle of Horrors.

            • Robert Eckert

              No, we won’t collapse, we will start eating our own hands, which is apparently an ordinary thing for people to do, where he comes from.

            • NOLAGirl

              ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All we need is some hot sauce. 😀

              Can’t say I’ve ever been THAT hungry, but I’ve never been a slave to a Tiny Dictator either, so…to each their own I guess. :)

            • OrangySky

              I like my hands with a little garlic sauce and cilantro.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SoS: Have you done anything your mother would be ashamed to find out?

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              I like how you’re taking the time to stop and downvote some things I am saying. Lulz

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Well, I’m not used to downvote anybody, so it’s not me.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Then what are they using you for, SoS?
              Have you been sent here to knowingly injure Scientology?

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              What are you used for then?

            • OrangySky

              Then your “success story” must be full of lies. Because the majority here feel you are nothing but a plaything, a helpless mouse to a kitten. You are not winning. You lose more and more every day.
              And sadly, your superiors see this, which is why you don’t move up in the organization.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              I still haven’t figured out why rage would cause someone to eat their hands? Those two seem completely unrelated.

            • Hara

              What?

            • IASREG

              Donate 50,000$ to the IAS to shine the light of Scientology!

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              No you’re not. You just lied you 1.1 piece of shit.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Obviously untrue. You have already stated your conclusion that there is no hope here. There must be another motive. You have committed a crime. Why don’t you get that off your chest? What is it SoS?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Hope never dies!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Ok, I got that. Are my questions embarrassing?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              What questions?

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Have you been sent here knowingly to injure Scientology?
              Are you guilty of anything?
              Do you have a secret you are afraid I’ll find out?
              What are your crimes?

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              What the fuck is this a James Bond movie?

            • Verve

              “Live and let’s get regged.” Do do do, do do.

            • KJP in Portland

              No but your chirch will, very, very shortly. Than what? Are you going to defect to North Korea?

            • OrangySky

              And how’s that working out for you, SoS?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Not too good. But it’s fun.

            • OrangySky

              Your superiors should know that you have fun being here, listening to entheta.

              David Miscavige would be enraged to find you think it’s “Fun” to be on Tony Ortega’s blog.

              Sir Hemet, it is time you begin to write up the KR on SoS. His crimes are multiplying.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              You called it, OS. It is already out of my hands. I have given notice to the lines I have within the church. SoS digs himself deeper with every post. He actually knows what to expect, but he will never admit it here. With the upcoming events of this weekend, it may take several days, even several weeks, before we do not hear from him for a while, but hopefully he will find his way back here once the COS implodes, although he would like do better with an indie group given his level of indoctrination. It is unfortunate that I have to use my lines within the church to save someone. I hope that he is not RPF’d for too long. Sorry SoS. You shoud have been more responsive to my questions and not stated that you have fun here. You will have the opportunity to anwer my questions in the next few days or weeks and demonstrate your conviction, but if they call or knock for you, we understand. Good luck to you.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              You’re being used for things? Like posting on here and engaging in all the entheta that can pollute your soul. How does that feel? Being used? How often do you have to report in?

            • EnthralledObserver

              Did you never wonder why ‘you’ are asked to risk looking at entheta by the CO$ to help ‘them’? Doesn’t your eternity mean anything to ‘them’? Why do you allow yourself to be used and not protected? They are using you! They don’t care what happens to you… only whether you have been useful or not.

            • Truthiwant

              ‘Aiutare noi a vedere la luce’!

              Dimmi, sei italiano o no?

              Capisco perchè devi nasconderti dietro un alias ma non capisco il motivo di nascondere il fatto che sei italiano, se è vero.

              E’ solo una curiosità. Non devi rispondere se se non vuoi.

              Io sono inglese ma vivo in Italia da tanti anni.

              E’ mezzanotte adesso. Vado a letto. Buonanotte!

            • OrangySky

              I’m so happy I could understand most of that with my VERY rusty Italian, Truthiwant!

              I had to look up one word – nascondere.

              It is the best language of all time.

            • Peter

              Hell, lots of those on this blog saw the light 30 years and more ago. And more are seeing it now. Leah? Paul Haggis? Lisa Marie Presley? And all those totally dedicated South African scios, now declared, several of whom were in for over 50 years apiece. How much light do YOU need? What a sad case.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Turn that big arse spot-light around dude, you have it pointed at the wrong thing. $cientology needs to be illuminated for the deluded $cientologists – it’s a SCAM! Just LOOK! :)

            • 3feetback-of-COS

              I think he is here to get his stats up; maybe number of posts made defending the chirch. Also, today is Weds in california… only 23:45 until 2 pm Thurs.

            • 3feetback-of-COS

              That is just YOUR OPINION.

              Someone on the fence could review this site, and others, and also the scientology sites before making up his mind.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              What are your crimes Scienice of Survival? You must be 1.1 if you are here. You are posting under a fake name, making up stories about people. You’re spreading lies in order to disrupt.

              Uh-oh. Did you become 1.1 because you were trying to make things better here? I think you did.

              Don’t worry. You’ll get called in by your MAA soon enough.

            • Robert Eckert

              Note that he uses a comma rather than a period as the decimal point. European habits are hard for him to shake off.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              I know. But he could still be in the US. Hubbard that it was cool to do euro things in America. LIke use the backwards date format.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              “backwards”? I thought that Americans use it backwards.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              You like doing it backwards don’t you?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              So you are saying LRH was backwards?

            • IASREG

              Donate to fight the entheta blogs and install Scientology rule? 50,000$ is what we need from you to make it happen.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              And what concerns me and those monitoring this scene is that YOU, SoS, fit right in with this group. You are clearly guilty of something, which is the only conclusion that can be drawn by anyone who visits here and witnesses your trail of PTSness. Not a sigle answer to a single question. What crime are you hiding, SoS?

            • Verve

              Dude, I take my Tone to 41. Now bring me my miniature Stonehenge, muppet.

            • Phil de Fontenay

              You are out of PT!

              You do know you are not at scientology (dot) org don’t you?

              I don’t even think you are a Scientologist, just some poor schmuck with nothing else to do.

            • KJP in Portland

              Do you fuck sheep?

          • Verve

            ” Could you advice someone you love to try eroin?”
            Is that one of the new “preceptics,” like iPhone or eGroin?

          • IASREG

            Donate 50,000$ to IAS to promote Narconon!

          • OrangySky

            Who is Eroin? Is that an Irish name?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              She is cocaine’s sister.

            • OrangySky

              Now that made me laugh, SoS! 😉

            • junojones

              Would they consider a threesome? I always wanted to do it with French girls.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              We call her “CrowCane” around here……….you know?…..Raven Cane….one of Scientology “Celebrities”…..

              What? You never heard of her.
              Ok…that actually makes sense.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              “She is cocaine’s sister.”

              I heard they disconnected. Sad really :-(

      • Truthiwant

        Of course all public Scientologists have smart phones. Where in heaven do you think we live? Why should they not have them? But they don’t click on tonyortega.org!
        There is even a television on the Freewinds! Only problem is that they show you recorded programmes of their choice!

        • SignsOfSuccess

          “But they don’t click on tonyortega.org” Of course not. Who hell is tony ortega to them?

          “There is even a television on the Freewinds!”
          Are you sure there is just one?

          • IASREG

            They do click on tonyortega.org, as do you. This is a problem Marco, donate 50,000$ to fight entheta blogs!

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            You need to get serious SoS. Your non-responses speak VOLUMES to those monitoring your activities, and the responses that are being picked up by the sensors in the keyboard and mouse device that you are using are very telling: ANSWER THIS or be prepared for a “visit.” Do you regard auditing as punishment?

            • Verve

              Seriously, he’s being mocked by monkeys here. Or does getting made a fool of by a monkey count as an “upstat?” Maybe the pounds of poo thrown his way count as “quality statistics?”

            • Observer

              If it does, he’s barking up the wrong monkey.

            • Verve

              And Obs wins the internet for today! Excellent work! (as always) 😀

          • Truthiwant

            Well, Tony Ortega must be something to ‘you’ even if not to ‘them’ seeing that you are here.
            Maybe there are dozens of televisions on the Freewinds all censored by Scientology.

          • OrangySky

            Tony Ortega is certainly “something” to COB. He’s spent hundreds of thousands of YOUR parishioner dollars – and hours and hours of strategy sessions – trying to stop Tony O/The Bunker.

            So far, COB has FAILED. Tony is more popular than ever, has a prestigious new job, and a book soon to come out.

            So, what is COB doing wrong? How is he applying the Tech wrong in this case? Why has he spent years and $100,000’s trying to get rid of Tony, and is failing again and again – in fact, is only HELPING Tony to succeed?

            Does that mean that COB is PTS – because he is aiding and abetting the success of an “enemy” of Scientology? That is out ethics and out tech!

            Will you do the right thing and write a KR on COB, like Leah Remini did?

          • Barbara Angel

            Where’s Shelly?

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        Come on SoS. Tell us about your 2D confessions. I bet you’re a sick pervert. I remember how it was, in the Sea Org. Showering with all those naked men. In such close quarters. It was like a porno.

        • SignsOfSuccess

          It was like a porno for you?? …LOL I didn’ t know. Did you tell that to your MAA?

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Yeah. In the Sea Org guys walk around ass naked all the time in the berthing. In the showers and in the rooms. It’s hot. Except for the part where everyone wears stinky old clothes and doesn’t brush their teeth.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Is that why you joined the SO?

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Actually, kind of I guess. My recruiters were kind of hot. I was a young teenage boy drowning in hormones. They took advantage of my weakness and so I signed up. They even made an explicit effort to show me the showers at shower time.

              You know Jimmy Page? He recruited me to AOLA. He was so good looking. Except his eyes always were too wide open. Like he was on crack or something.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              ” Except his eyes always were too wide open. Like he was on crack or something.”
              Nah…just his TRS not flat.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              His stomach was certainly flat. Sexy son of a bitch. I only saw him in the showers once. Hot body, but he kept his naughty parts covered with a towel. :(

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              More curiosity from SoS. Duly noted and recorded. Derek, you might be onto something. Hopefully, a Page from the book of Page. 😉

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Oh I could tell. From the first moment when I started talking about TC and JT and DM going at it, this guy jumped on it quick-like.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              SoS, your curiosity is interesting. And quite telling. This WILL go into your file.
              NOW ANSWER: Have you ever practiced homosexuality?

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Notice how we all ignore Sir Burlwood? Because he was a good boy. Unlike you he just came through and posted positive things about Scientology. You are making Scientology look bad. That’s why he’s questioning you. He wants to know if you really are a Scientologist so he can call your local ethics officer.

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            SoS: Have you ever hidden to watch sexual practices?

          • IASREG

            Donate 50,000$ to upgrade shitty Sea Org communal berthings ;)?

          • Straight Diet of Kerbango

            No, not “LOL.” Can you please think of something witty to write just once.

          • Barbara Angel

            Repeat: Where’s Shelly and will she be allowed out for the Tent Circus?

      • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

        SoS: Have you ever had intercourse with a member of your family?

        • MaxSpaceman

          Sir HTCB8, sir – A most appropriate and capital observation !!

        • Barbara Angel

          @ SoS Or your dog or cat? C’mon we won’t tell anyone, you can trust us. Oh and give me $500.00 now or you can’t leave the building and my toilet needs cleaning, get your toothbrush ready.

      • nottrue

        When I count to 3 wake up

      • Verve

        Hey, the muppet is back. Let me introduce you to Boxlee the Fresh. He is fond of Scientologists, as you can tell by his picture-

      • Interested

        Are you of English tongue? I really am interested if you would kindly tell me where you are from. Your turn of phrase suggest a foreigner

        • Robert Eckert

          From Italy, or so his usual story goes.

          • Interested

            Well, then if he is of Italian tongue his English is a lot better than my Italian. Thanks for info

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        You know you are here making a bad name for Scientology. You are making your own religion look bad. You’re nothing but a piece of shit 1.1 SP that SCOHB. Go crawl back into your hole and cover it because there are ethics officers out there looking for you right now. Just as much as they are printing out every post that I make and filing it in my SP folder.

        • IBBy

          Derek, my mind is boggled that anyone would tell you to calm down or take a breath. I enjoy every single one of your posts, because your passion shines through like a daggers blade. You’ve more than earned every word you speak or type. Keep shining <3

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Thanks IBBy. I have quite a well-practiced wit in real life. I don’t focus only on intellectual endeavors. I like to be well-adjusted socially too. Part of that is a sense of humor. Which is something I’ve never come up short on.

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Some people mistake passion for anger. It’s very unfortunate.

      • Zana

        What I discovered is that when I wanted to do auditing I would be asked lots of “sec check-y” questions… and if I had been looking at something I shouldn’t, then I would have to get a lot more “auditing” (at my cost) in order to qualify to be able to get the “real” Bridge auditing. So part of the fear of looking at “negative” things on the internet is that it actually will COST YOU LOTS OF $$ and impede your progress.

        Then something really stupid happened… my Lover would bring a joint over and we would get high and make love all night. Sounds fun, right? Absolutely amazing and healing!! So… when it came up in auditing that I was getting high during times when I was NOT auditing… then I got into trouble. It cost me lots of money and I had to tell my Lover that the Co$ is now in our bedroom dictating what I can and cannot do with him. Hmmm… that pretty much was the beginning of the end of that relationship. He was very sweet and bought me this book, “Inside Scientology” by Janet Reitman. My auditor came by my house one day, saw the book sitting around and told me NOT to read it and just get rid of it asap. At that point I got curious about it… then, when Katie split, I picked it up and started reading. Couldn’t believe my eyes.

        When I discovered the other books (Mike Rinder, Jefferson Hawkins, Amy Scobee, etc) I knew that there was no way that I was going to pay money to have Co$ try and push my awareness back into the bottle. Half way through the 2nd book I knew that getting back into auditing would be like trying to fit my size 7 foot into a size 5 shoe. So I decided to just read everything and then decide for myself what I was going to do. I knew my auditing days were numbered — with interfering with an amazing 10-year love affair plus all the incessant regging…. I was ready to walk away and never look back.

        At the same time another thing happened: a high standing member of Co$ who, when it was discovered that she did NOT write up a Knowledge Report on a her father when he spoke his concerns about David Miscavige changing the tech, — SHE was required to take extensive sec checking to the tune of $6,000 as punishment and to “clear the cooties” off her thinking. She had to borrow that money … at what interest? I don’t know. And I know the church doesn’t care. In the meantime, this broke up her entire family.

        The Co$ makes the cost of knowing reality to be so great that even intelligent people go along with the blindfolds. The greed to be Super Human is so powerful and intoxicating that all common sense (and pleasure in the ordinary in life) seems to be lost in the race to get up the Bridge. The Sheeple are not cognizant that the JOURNEY is the goal. And that a life without Love is actually MISSING life entirely.

        They will probably discover the truth at the moment they die. I don’t think anyone will look back and say, “Wow, I wish I had spent more time on the cans. Or more time building shit for David Miscavige. Or enduring 100 hour a week slavery for $50 per week.” I think everybody will look back and think… “Wow… I wish I had loved more. Or reached out to my family, my children, my mate, my Lover…” Or even… “I wish I had gone sky-diving or learned to paint. Or play the piano. Or had kids.” The key is to think from your future… what is it that I wished I would have done? Then do that NOW. Love more. Adventure more. Take the plastic slip covers off the sofa and use the good china every day. Make love in the afternoon. And tell the truth with a smile and perhaps a giggle.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          This is an epic and beautiful post.

          Just because I want to say it again for you.

          The Sheeple are not cognizant that the JOURNEY is the goal. And that a life without Love is actually MISSING life entirely.

          They will probably discover the truth at the moment they die. I don’t think anyone will look back and say, “Wow, I wish I had spent more time on the cans. Or more time building shit for David Miscavige. Or enduring 100 hour a week slavery for $50 per week.” I think everybody will look back and think… “Wow… I wish I had loved more. Or reached out to my family, my children, my mate, my Lover…” Or even… “I wish I had gone sky-diving or learned to paint. Or play the piano. Or had kids.” The key is to think from your future… what is it that I wished I would have done? Then do that NOW. Love more. Adventure more. Take the plastic slip covers off the sofa and use the good china every day. Make love in the afternoon. And tell the truth with a smile and perhaps a giggle.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          Seriously…I commend you. What a post.

          • Zana

            Thank you, BTN. I appreciate you.

          • MissCandle

            My favorite part was her explanation of the powerful greed to be super human.

        • Charlotte

          Zana, thank you. Beautiful. Do you write professionally? I could read you for hours, I feel.

          Thank you.

        • OrangySky

          Beautifully written and felt, Zana.

          I’m so glad that you got out…that your lover was kind and wise and brought you that book.

          “The cost of knowing” – that’s a really powerful phrase.

          May I ask, what was it about Scientology appealed to you the most? Was it the “Super Human” aspect of which you write, or something else?

          • Zana

            I was in a lot of grief. I had no business experience. Was an artist, writer… doing great artistically and failing in business. My mom died, my younger brother died, people were stealing my work and then my landlady died and I was thrown out of the duplex I had lived in for 18 years and was broke. Scrambling. Like a deer in headlights. My younger brother’s death had brought up a lot of the dysfunction in our family that I survived, but he succumbed to.

            I was happy spiritually… but in the material world I was challenged. Had to handle business and money. A friend told me that Scientology had the best business courses in the world. So I went to CCI in Hollywood. Was impressed with what appeared to be the “stability” of what they were teaching. When I put together my own business and started creating money I knew that I had a lot of limited programming about it and was still breaking into tears at strange times during the day over my brother’s death… and thought that auditing seemed more sensible than going into regular therapy. (I had been there and done that… so-so results.)

            I lucked out and got a wonderful auditor. And moved through the grief and out to the other side to be able to be grateful I had such a wonderful brother and know that we both made choices. The abuse from my father was dealt with very quickly… and I saw that all go “poof” within the first few days of auditing. That was something I had been trying to handle all my life and had finally given up on. The way the questions were asked by the auditor provoked new realizations and a new point of view spontaneously arose. It was like the sun came out… and a lot of the fear and terror just floated away. Never to come back. I’m eternally grateful for that.

            So I DID have wins in Scientology. I was sufficiently stabilized to be able to go ahead and build a very successful business — although I could never figure out how to get the business tech to work. Admin scales are still too complicated for me. I continued on through Grade 4… but by that time I was being tracked down by jackals (the Reg’s) and the whole thing happened with my Lover… and I knew I was out the other side.

            I have always believed that we are all magnificent Beings… vast souls… that are living a physical existence in this material world. I have meditated for many years. Longed to know…God. The miracle. Whatever else there is going on here that brings Life to the material world. Spent time with a spiritual master. So… I don’t know if I believe in Super Human powers… I believe in becoming self-realized… which is pretty simple. Ordinary. That’s why none of us want to do it. :-) Who wants to be ordinary?… except Lao Tzu. :-)) And a few enlightened masters.

            • OrangySky

              Beautiful, Zana. I can so identify. As an artist who has learned business the hard way (by repeatedly getting screwed over.)

              It’s nice to hear of your powerful auditing experience. “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.” You found the right person – and perhaps even the right method – to help you move through your grief. This is why I support the indies – if THIS is what they do. THIS. Not the ethics stuff, not the OT cooties, THIS. The caring, the getting to the root and the heart of things so we can move forward.
              What those in the Bubble don’t understand is, many of us have had such transcendent experiences with Evil Psychs. Or in church. Or in recovery. And just as many have been harmed by the one-size-fits-all approach of regimented Scientology. LRH did NOT know what he was doing. Anyway, It’s not one-size-fits all. It’s beautiful that you found it – but also, that you could walk away from what Scientology is NOT.
              As for the grief part, I hear you. I’m struggling right now with that, very deeply. Being over the middle part of life puts it in a very different light. Lost mom just barely out of girlhood; lost best pal dad just recently…plus others who have meant so much. There are other losses that haven’t been deaths, either. At various times in my life I have made choices that were parallel to joining a cult but not quite.
              As for ordinary – I’ve found it quite freeing to accept a measure of ordinary – as a way to rise beyond ego. But as an artist (and you understand), there’s always that niggling question, “So why did you give me this gift, then, if I’m not supposed to make a difference with it?”

              Thanks for sharing your story.xo

            • Zana

              Hi Orange Sky — Yes… you HAVE to share your gift. That is what “blooms” you. That is what heals you. and at the same time it heals others.

              Osho once said, “To become creative, one must become one with creation.” I somehow, over the years, found myself living into it. He also said, “Become the loving and don’t get stuck on particulars.” Those are the two most profound pieces of advice I have ever received. I had the feeling to share them with you.

              I hope you find your healing. I stepped back and started a business that is now all residual income and giving me the opportunity to get back to writing and performing. I just finished a book and have started on the next one. I’ll share if you are interested. I’m passionate about helping artists… Artists are the visionaries of a culture. We are the endangered species. We no longer have benefactors and 95% of everything that is digital… from music to movies to Kindle books… are stolen on the internet. We HAVE to come together and create wealth together so that we can continue being the amazing beings we are…. channeling the light in from the other side. :-)

              Yes… I’m a woman of a certain age… and totally dedicated to living full out and, instead of adding healthy years to my life, to put another adulthood right in the MIDDLE of my life. Doing what I really wanted to do in my youth… but didn’t know I could. If you would like, I’d love to chat with you about how we can thrive as artists.

        • Peter

          Superb post. Thank you. The journey IS the goal. I got a lot out of it way back when, simply stopped when it no longer made sense to continue. I still cherish (and use) the wins, but I could not ignore the criminal actions being taken, supported and validated by the upper echelons.

          • Barbara Angel

            That was one of my earlier more naive questions; how could people IGNORE the criminal actions that they must have seen; taken part in, supported and validated by not speaking up???? Then by more reading and the generous sharing of those brave long termers I understood/understand, but I know myself and would never have been able to remain silent while witnessing such abuses against ‘others’. $cos is a Dangerous Criminal Cult, with an INSATIABLE GREED for Moneeeeeeeeeeee to such an enormous degree that I’ve never seen in my entire life?????

            • Peter

              Barbara, please note the long history of abuse that the czerch has visited upon those who publicly attacked them in any way. Some of those abuses, as you may have learned here, have continued for years. Simply put, not everyone is prepared or (financially or emotionally) equipped to take on the incredible invasions of privacy, dirty tricks and emotional lambastings that scio can and does perpetrate. Note that much of the US government, which is supposed to deal with such criminal enterprises, apparently has totally backed away from doing anything. As well, scn is only one such criminal group in a world which has thousands of them. One can focus on any of them and be appalled that not everyone else has done so nor done anything about them.

            • Barbara Angel

              Peter: First CONGRATULATIONS on your New Life. Well Done. Secondly, it took quite a while and a lot of “Brave” sharing from the long termers before I realised why GOOD people stood by and watched. I’ve learned and really do “understand” why they felt they had to stay silent, “survival” being paramount. The Law enforcement agencies and U.S. Governments are a DISGRACE!!!! to the nation. Gutless shitbags paid by the people, to Protect the people. One of the early testimonies I read was Paulette Cooper, and WOW those fucking Criminals were prepared to stop and Nothing to protect their Racket. To leave used to sound Soooooo Easy and ITS NOT, Not, Not at all. I didn’t know that and once again its thanks to the BRAVE SHARING of the Long Termers of what its like: To have no I.D., no proper educational qualifications, no money, no outside friends left, no where to live, to be hunted down, terrorised, be the Target of Fair Game, and the list goes on and on and on. So once again MANY THANKS TO THE LONG TERM PEOPLE WHO BRAVELY SHARED with us never in’s who sit in our little comfort zones and say really, ‘Stupid’ ‘Ignorant’ well meaning Shit, such as… “Oh why didn’t they just leave, run”? Well NOW I KNOW why they didn’t COULDN’T just leave! The point I was trying to make is that I’ve had some “terrible” things happen in my life and “ran” with my two little children before I wouldn’t have been able to “run”. No, I haven’t had it easy, life has been tough. That wasn’t the first time I’ve “run” and the first time I ran, the ones who stayed behind copped it worse than I did by blundering into the world; alone, broke and terrified at 14. {Nothing to do with Cults, just mad family et al}. Back to the topic and the BRAVE people and Tony Ortega and everyone else who is doing their bit to help crumble $cos.
              WELL DONE EVERYONE, every little bit counts. I really love Anonymous for what they’ve contributed to, but most of all ***Tommy (shithead) Davis*** for alerting me to the CULTS shitty behaviour. Had he not behaved in the Disgusting way he did with that Brit journalist Mr Sweeney, $cos would never have been on my radar.

            • Peter

              Thank you very much for your very cogent reply. It’s obvious that your path in life led you into and through some pretty tough times. Yet you’ve persevered and are living differently now than you did then. It seems we all make constant choices in life, some liberating, some imprisoning. It’s up to each individual to sort it out, IMHO, seek help if needed, and rise into the sunlight again if that’s what’s needed. Your bravery shows through, too. Very well done, Barbara. We’re all delighted to hear such stories of overcoming the crap. Welcome to the sunshine!

            • Barbara Angel

              Thank you Peter, but compared to the long termers ‘survival testimonies’, my life has been a piece of cake, these people are the ***BRAVE*** ones. This includes you. You got out and I’m sure that took a lot of ‘Courage’, Well Done. I think we need to be kind to the poor fools like SoS and treat them with kindness, that way they can see there is another way of relating to others. $cos is such an ***OUTRAGEOUSLY*** Toxic; Scary, Vicious, CULT!!! Anyone who want’s Out needs help and if we slag them off, it will be proof that we are the same if not worse than $cos. OK rant over. Today’s homily: “Walk softly, but carry a big stick” is about as wise as it gets in Barbara Land. Blessings to you. B.A.

            • Peter

              Good words, kind words. Thanks. Everyone has their own Hell. Comparing them doesn’t work very well. The pain you felt was the same kind of pain others felt. That’s the way Hell is set up. :) Each of us has to work through our own Hell, generally self created in the first place. LOL I think it’s called “living”. :)

        • GlibWog

          Zana.. My wish is that somewhere out there.. Some SCN.. or someone in doubt..will process this information and take it to heart and Blow.

          Or maybe A lurker..a family member or friend with influence over a loved one will forward this fabulous post.

          You write so beautifully and from the heart. Thank you from the Bunker.. xox love Glibby

          • Zana

            XXOO Thank you!

        • MissCandle

          Excellent advice and thanks for sharing your experience and perspective. Oh how I hope many others (not just S-Lying-Tologists) realize this — and act on it.

      • Straight Diet of Kerbango

        Do they have smart phones and TVs during months to years-long RPF “assignments.”

      • Barbara Angel

        Hey SoS, where’s Shelly Miscavige? As an insider you must know where she is. Is she allowed out to come to the big Tent Circus?

    • Robert Eckert

      If I were Elvis Presley’s daughter and emotionally involved with Michael Jackson, I would certainly avoid looking at any tabloids and would probably have an extreme aversion to media of all kinds, without anybody having to encourage me to avoid them.

    • Artoo45

      I cut LMP a lot of slack. The woman grew up in a double cult. First, she was born into celebrity, that’s almost always toxic since you grow up in a privileged fishbowl. Celebrity distorts your view of the world and yourself and you are frequently surrounded by yes-people and never told “no.” Then, she loses her beloved father at an early age and has to weather the shitstorm of “coverage” of his death and the creepy adulation of his more rabid fans. I’m sure Priscilla tried to shield her, but that would be an impossible task. Next came the Scientology vultures to prey on Priscilla in her grief and loss and a second layer of celebrity and a new cult is added to the mix. How much do you want to bet that the cult was behind her ill-conceived marriage to Michael Jackson? I wish her nothing but success and peace of mind as she distances herself from the cults that have hobbled her in her life. I think we’ll be hearing a lot more from this talented, articulate, beautiful woman.

      • OrangySky

        I have read that her marriage to Michael Jackson was part of an attempt to get him into the cult. With the dirt they would’ve been able to get from his auditing folders? He’d be theirs forever.

        • Artoo45

          My thoughts exactly. I still cringe when I think of that kiss on the MTV Music Awards. I felt sorry for both of them in that debacle. More celebrity poison.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Awkward!
            I did like the retro “Dita Von Teese” style LMP was rocking back then.
            She kinda reminded me of Rachel in Blade Runner.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I read that.

      • Davka

        and not only celebrity, but Elvis’s daughter, which was its own kind of bubble.

        • Artoo45

          I know, imagine living up to the public perception of growing up with “The King” as your father.

      • GlibWog

        But you know..During Mom and Daughter talk.. ” MOM YOU WON’T BELIEVE WHAT IS GOING ON..type talk..

        And then spill the Beans? I know, I know it’s complex.. Then mom out..Kids in. But still?
        Oh well.. I’m just glad LMP is out. One day she will announce it like Leah did..and hopefully the ENTIRE family will BLOW!

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      This was pretty much what I too experienced when I was in scientology. Hubbard even referred to the news media as “merchants of chaos”.

      One of the reasons I began to have doubts was that I realized I was living isolated, sort of in a cloistered bubble, cut off from the outside world. It made me a bit uneasy with the cult. This was back in the ’70s.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      I do have a slightly different take on it from my own experience.

      I never looked on the suggestion to not read newspapers and watch the news as a ‘Rule’ in a strict sense. In the sea org, yes it is a rule, and TV watching is prohibited for them, but as a public scientologist I didn’t feel bound.

      What I was made aware of repeatedly was that exposure to ‘entheta’ and especially exposure to the “OT III” materials would ‘mess up my case’ and cause me much more difficulty and money to clean it up.

      With these heavy consequences to reading anything negative about scienology and sometimes negative stories in general, I developed the ‘Self Censorship’ skill seen in almost all scientologists.

      When you see a potentially negative story in the press, you just don’t read it. You are very sensitive to anything that contains key words like “Ron” or “Hubbard” or “scientology” or “OT” and you just don’t read, even if it might be a positive ‘theta’ story.

      I would actually close my eyes while reading a newspaper and turn the page with my eyes closed, when I encountered a story that had any of these key words or otherwise triggered this trained-in reflex.

      But, I still read papers and magazines and books frequently, watched the news, etc.

      • Truthiwant

        Thanks, Michael. What you have written is very important.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        You’re not alone. That’s par for the course for Scientologists.

      • Sunny Sands

        In a video of Dee protesting, she held up Jenna’s book and the guard turned his head away so fast, it was like she was spraying him with mace.

        • OrangySky

          Stunning. Vampires and crosses. Or garlic!

        • Observer

          So then all weekend protesters should festoon themselves with garlands of suppressive books …

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Read Neil Gaiman’s “Ocean at the end of the lane”.

          Dig the parallels? Loved the book and I think he is OUT because of it,.

          “it was like she was spraying him with mace.” Look at his heroine in the book.

        • Barbara Angel

          Naaaah its like holding up a crucifix to a vampire. Vampires according to TV legend can’t look upon a crucifix.

      • Sherbet

        I’m glad you did keep reading, MLT.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        I see what you did there 😉

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Dear God I wonder how it is possible to agree to never read the newspapers or to watch the television or to not look on the internet. For me it is very difficult do understand how can people agree to supress their curiosity.

      • OrangySky

        I think that Scientology not only totally suppresses curiosity, it may attract some people who are not naturally curious. Clearly, many of the people who were drawn to it (some people who post here) were seekers, looking for answers. For them, Scientology appeals to their curiousity and convinces them they’re on this great epic journey to the heart of knowledge. But others attracted to it seem to be like SoS – robotic, with no interest in anything except the very narrow answers they’ve been given.

      • Peter

        I rarely read newspapers, watch no telly news shows, etc. There simply is so much crap in all of them, I find them not worth the time. How many car crashes, bomb attacks, murders, hurricanes and exposés of politicians and actors does it take to satisfy your “curiosity”? You really believe all that stuff is of value in your life? Bleaggghhhh!

    • MissCandle

      How does Greta V.S. get away with it?

      • NOLAGirl

        She direct deposits large donations. :)

    • MissCandle

      By the way, HI again.

  • Tone

    Endocrine states? Maybe you’re on the cans while you do it and somehow you shed a few BT’s that are causing your obesity. Kirstie Alley will likely break it.

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    More fodder..it’s too easy. *refresh for image*

    • NOLAGirl

      Well, even though you don’t swing my way Derek, you’re pretty hot & lots of fun…I’d try eroin with you. ROFL!!!!
      ((HUGS)) to you darlin’, you’ve been giving them hell today. 😀

    • Interested

      Advise: to advise a verb an action. Advice: a noun, it is something that is given. Ok, so disqus can be a bummer, still, if you can… Re-read. We have People whose first language is not English who speak “more proper ”

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        You can tell if it’s a language problem or the person is just dumb. It’s all hidden in the syntax. “the arrangement of words and phrases to create well-formed sentences in a language.”

        This person is dumb.

        • Robert Eckert

          The two alternatives are not mutually exclusive.

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Good point.

    • Verve

      Thumbs up, Derek. Monkey approved.

  • Suppressive Tomato

    Artist’s rendering of a top-secret new Sea Org transportation pod debuting at Flag Super Power!

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      LOL I was thinking of that earlier when I was talking about the “special” joystick for the DC-8!!

    • MaxSpaceman

      Oh man! That is so perfectomundo !!
      Thanks, SuppressiveT !

    • Walter Mitty

      And here it is in action.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        Omg that thing was real? This whole time? My world has been turned upside down.

  • indie8million

    Oh, you guys. Check this out. I just happened to run into this today! Think anyone can use it in their court cases? I feel it more than applies to Dear Leader. What was the intent?

    TORTS – Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quv1HUgpf-E

  • El Con Blubbard

    Staff were promised Super Power before the public. Does anyone know if they are going to get greased up and fleeced, spun some more, shocked into confusion with the Super Power rundowns before any of the whales (if there are any left)? Does anyone know the cost of the scam?

    • Eclipse-girl

      when did scientology keep any of its promises?

    • MissCandle

      Maybe staff members are lucky enough to be the test cases.

  • Verve

    SOS- what are your crimes?

    (This is more fun than an episode of Supernatural.)

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Oh those two guys are hot.

      • Verve

        Castiel isn’t too bad, either. And don’t forget Felicia Day (the red head girl named Charlie).

      • FromPolandWithLove

        A propos hot guys

        Tengo algun para Ti Derek. Con cuidado – caliente!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUdzYaUkXhE

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Hahaha! Gracias buddy. Es muy bien. Quiero aprender la baile.

          • FromPolandWithLove

            De nada. Vamos a disfrutar. Ehhhm yo no soy “buddy”, porque yo soy chica:):):)

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              It’s okay. Pero digo todos “buddies”

  • IBBy

    I hope they chose the leaded crystal for the ashtrays. Cant have them randomly levitating on opening day

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Almost counts i guess

    • Walter Mitty

      If you see a Scientology Troll then there is only one solution: Time for the good old Mr. Trololo Song.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1EG-MKy4so

      • Eclipse-girl

        trollollolloll man.

      • Captain Howdy

        But you have to hit them with the 10 hr version along with your best tone 40

        http://youtu.be/sCNrK-n68CM

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      LOL, they have others scibots for that function? eh?

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        This one admitted that he was part of some organized group. So at least there’s something.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Oh, it did? I missed that part.
          Although I don’t know if I would call Scientology “organized” at this point in time.

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Well sort of. I am counting this as an admission lol

        • OrangySky

          Very interesting indeed!

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Amazing how that Signs Of Success has managed to derail a whole bunch of posters into a side thread, on a day when the story is about Lisa Marie Presley and her leaving scientology.

    On the other hand, that poster has SUCH a subliminal plea for help in his initials: SOS.

    • Sandy

      Yes. He is getting quite boring too.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      There was a purpose behind what I was doing. I almost achieved it! Plus it’s fun getting to talk shit to a Scientologist. Been wanting to do it for years.

      • Eclipse-girl

        I think you have earned it.

    • Verve

      I really didn’t have much to say about LMP, plus I was bored while waiting for an email, so I went Derek’s route and whacked on the muppet a bit. It’s a bit cathartic.

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      Although I follow all-things-scientology daily, I am not a frequent poster. But I do tend to come out for the trolls. I see my role as largely a troll of trolls, for whatever that’s worth. Its a diversion and source of twisted pleasure for me, and I try and keep it a bit entertaining, so I hope I don’t take too much away for the more important commentary when I gleefully pursue a troll off the rails. Derek and I were mind-melding in our responses there for a bit!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Personally, I enjoy a good trolling of trolls, Sir.

      • OrangySky

        Sir Hemet, you are indeed a Troll Troller Extraordinaire.

        • GlibWog

          And I must say you truly deserve your Top Hat sir.

      • Jo

        Has Eugene disappeared?

        • Eclipse-girl

          haven’t seen that person in several days, possible a week, maybe even more.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          apparently,,,,for now.

          • Jo

            Sir Helmet was talking him on an old post and I was curious. I have to admit this, I find SOS funny, he’s got strange/dark sense of humour.

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          Not completely. Eugene had a brief and apparently cordial exchange with someone several days ago. He’s an odd one, who I think is sincere. Not in the church, not an indie, but loves him some Hubbard. If you were to read through his posts, I think you might detect someone who is very slowly waking up, right in front of your eyes. But it is one step foward, two (maybe three) steps back. I think I was able to connect with him a bit and, after going pretty hard at him, enjoyed our exchange. I think I owe him a few responses. SoS, I think he might be a true troll, not in the church, maybe never in, just here to yank chain. But I don’t know. Might have to throw a little poplurk action his way (time permitting).

          • Jo

            SOS is a strange one, I keep thinking he’s a teenager because of the things he says. Oh well, time will tell. Poplurk action, I like :)

            • Barbara Angel

              SoS is just another Victim, lets just keep asking him/her “where’s Shelly”? That seemed to shut him/her up last night. He/she is probably tired/hungry and living in terror especially of Dildo Davey’s latest multiple Rage outbursts… I wouldn’t want to be in his/her shoes for all the tea in China, in fact I have a lot of pity for him/her.

      • Suppressive Tomato

        You are my troll-trolling hero, TC. I had a lot of fun with you the night that “Betty” dropped in for some entheta. Good times for all involved!

      • stillgrace2

        You stayed right on target with your sec check questions! He didn’t answer a single one, but he had to read them, right?! Heh heh!

        And IASREG regged the crap out of him! I thought the day was a win for the Bunker.

      • Hara

        SoS seemed more like a crazy indie without a clue, rather than a troll

      • NOLAGirl

        You “troll” with class Sir. And I’m a huge fan of how you go about it. Keep it up, your wins are stacking up. LOL :)

      • tetloj

        I would pay money to watch you troll trolls.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      But there wasn’t that much to talk about anyway. We all know that Lisa Marie has been slipping out the door for some time. The news from Clearwater is… predictable. And nothing earth shattering from the Mike ‘n Marty blogs.

      So we bat around the cat toy. Nu?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Xactly……….a troll on a slow day is like a gift from Xenu!

      • Sherbet

        There’s two reasons for me to be here: (1) to learn serious information about scn and its collapse, and (2) to have some fun in the meantime. Sparring with SOS and his/her “ilk” isn’t on my list. But if it accomplishes a purpose for other posters, have at it!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Sorry Sherb, but sparring with SOS is definitely on my list.
          I can not always contribute intellectual posts.
          But I can snark to high heaven.
          And this YAHOO just gives me a blank canvas to paint on.

          • Sherbet

            That’s fine with me. I leave it to the professionals. There’s always a chance a troll will say, “Wow! I get it! You guys are right, and I’m deluded!” Nah…

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Nice thought? Kinda like the troll making one of us say…oh wait, do you have an extra copy of Dianetics?

            • Sherbet

              Yeah, that’s gonna happen. Anyway, I’m thinking of your troll-rolling as sort of performance art.

            • GlibWog

              I just jumped on.. What a busy day I have had.. Is SOS on this thread?

              ( I will Lurk only! )

            • Sherbet

              I think s/he’s gone now, but, man, what a skirmish from earlier today. Derek made a chew toy out of him/her. But he wouldn’t go away.

            • GlibWog

              I found it.. hahhhaah Good God I love the bunker..

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Quit derailing MLT.!!! This is not about ABBA!!!

      What are your crimes?

  • aquaclara

    Ok, I found this interesting. Since Media Lush is awol for the moment, I am including this here. It’s the secret to John Travolta’s hair….as revealed by Jon Cryer on Conan Monday night. I never would have guessed that it’s ROLLED on…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2503892/Jon-Cryer-admits-hes-bald-explains-process-goes-hide-it.html

    • FromPolandWithLove

      TROLLED ON

  • Sherbet

    What’s up? I came on this evening to catch up on posts, and I found out SOS had hijacked the whole Bunker. Is he gone?

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      He is very needy.
      But I don’t really know……just got back myself.

    • Sibs

      I may have more to say about Jenna’s book now that I’ve dealt with all the financial stuff I needed to today, but I may need a while (I went through the rest of the book so quickly that I think there are some key points I want to go back and write down).

      • Eclipse-girl

        take your time. There is almost always someone here ready to talk.

    • Room 101

      Just do what I do. Flag his comments.

      • Sherbet

        What does that do, Room?

        • Eclipse-girl

          If enough people flag them, it hides the comments with a message “this comment is awaiting moderation” or something like that. You can still click on it and read it.

          • Sherbet

            OK. Thanks, E-girl.

    • TXCowgirl

      Sherbet, I’m checking back in now, as well. About to go exploring down through the posts…..

      • Sherbet

        I wouldn’t waste my time. Boring!

        • TXCowgirl

          Finally up-to-date and you, my dear, are correct for the most part. Not that our esteemed colleagues weren’t as witty and clever as always.

          • Sherbet

            Oh, yes, Cowgirl. Derek, Bury, and lots of others nicely knocked the “s” out of SOS.

    • Eclipse-girl

      I am glad I missed it. I found it boring because SOS never answers our questions. S/he usually just tries to fling poop at people.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        But it throws like a girl!

        And I don’t mean that in a gender patronizing way. It is just old school funny.
        So, please….all feminist’s put your guns back in the holster.

        • EnthralledObserver

          Yes!!!!!

        • GlibWog

          Awwwwwww that ok Bury.. I throw like a boy..

  • Artoo45

    Everyone is arriving and it’s soooooooo exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Zana

      Love this!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      TARDIS already checked into the hotel???

      • Artoo45

        It’s going to arrive yesterday.

      • nottrue

        DALEK is already getting Regged bad

  • SandiCorrena

    E just covered Mark Wahlberg’s comments re TC!!

    they just asked like their studio between Mark and Tom whose side are you on and someone Yelled MARK WAHLBERG!

    • Zana

      What did he say about TC?!

      • Eclipse-girl

        He picked a fight with TC because being a film star even on a rough shoot does not compare to being a soldier in Afghanistan. Mark stood up for soldiers and veterans.

        • Zana

          Yeaaa! Thank you.

          • Eclipse-girl

            I didn’t respond to the post you wrote , lost in the 1000+. It was to SOS. It was extremely well written and very moving.

            TY for writing it.

            • Zana

              Thank you. XXO

    • palmas74

      Lisa Marie P on fox news on OMG right now.

    • media_lush

      I had no idea he was THAT much of a Hollywood playa….. man, the guys richer than Cruise and waaaay more powerful…. this is actually a REALLY BIG DIS in the scheme of current Hollywood, a lot of [undecided] people will find it easy to choose which side to support now

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2494018/New-pictures-reveal-sheer-opulence-Mark-Wahlbergs-acre-Beverly-Hills-manor-water-park.html

  • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII
    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Security fencing will be erected to separate people invited to the private event from the general public.

      PUSSIES!!!!

      • OrangySky

        Meow. You said it Bury.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          FFS!
          So much for the Comm Course!!!

          • OrangySky

            Sure, they can still “confront and shatter’…but only safely through a fence.

    • Observer

      Oh, there’s a surprise.

    • cdub

      City Manager Bill Horne gets down.

    • Sunny Sands

      Times staff
      CLEARWATER — The city gave final approval Wednesday for the Church of Scientology to dedicate its massive Flag Building this weekend, capping a three-month process that often sparked tension between Tampa Bay’s third-largest city and one of its largest institutions.

      The city special events permit outlines street and sidewalk closures, noise restrictions, police and fire involvement and other details for the weekend, which will be highlighted by Sunday’s grand opening of the $145 million Flag Building downtown. The church has said it expects 10,000 members to attend.

      Portions of Fort Harrison Avenue, a major north-south thoroughfare, and sidewalks on either side of the street will be closed between 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Sunday. Security fencing will be erected to separate people invited to the private event from the general public.

      Amplified sound will be permitted only during scheduled events, must end by 11 p.m. and can’t exceed 95 decibels. Any noisier and the church will receive one warning before a police officer adjusts the sound.

      City Manager Bill Horne has told the church it must follow the city’s rules set forth in the permit if it wants to get approval for two other major events scheduled later this year: an international gathering of Scientologists the weekend after Thanksgiving and an anticipated New Year’s Eve celebration.

      The church didn’t respond to a request for comment.

      Scientology gets final approval for building dedication 11/13/13 [Last modified: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:58pm]

      • Sunny Sands

        They say Ft. Harrison and the sidewalks on either side will be closed. They don’t say anything about Franklin St., which is where the tent is, and 1 side of Soopah Powah. The other 2 sides of SP are Pierce and Garden, also not mentioned. Should be interesting.

  • Eclipse-girl

    From Robert E, Reality Scamz and others

    This needs to be posted often for anyone contemplating a trip to Clearwater for The Most Historic Event In The Universe.

    Advice from Reality Scamz

    • This post has been repeatedly flagged; obviously it genuinely worries OSA so it needs to be reposted often

    Always have a video camera or regular camera Ready at a Moments Notice.

    If possible go with a more than 1 person

    Park 6-8 blocks out of the downtown area (Not Whole Foods lot)

    Use a BUS you can check the schedule at http://www.psta.net/index.php

    DO NOT USE A TAXI

    Use a different route to enter and exit the area. When leaving take your time, stop for coffee or browse a few blocks away. Make some turns and keep eyes open.

    Clearwater PD is well aware of Wearing a Mask, just put it on a few blocks before you get there.

    Consider bringing Water and possible a backpack with a Hat, , Different shirt, Sunglasses, Knit Cap; You can hide your hair underneath, also Big Sunglasses, (if No Mask Wanted)

    They will VIDEO YOU the less of your body they see the Better.

    Google Maps is your friend

    Once you get there even with an Anon do not tell people your real name, they will not be offended.

    After you get there Anon’s (Probably Guy Fawkes Masks) can probably give you further information. Guy Fawkes masks can be gotten at http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb

    You can also go to Why We Protest, if you have trouble finding information ask a MOD

    Bella Lugosi also posts advice:

    To anyone thinking about showing up for a protest;

    1. Buddy up. Never protest alone.

    2. Make sure your batteries on the camera/phone is charged. Video/voice recordings take a lot out of battery life.

    3. Know your local statutes regarding what is public vs. private property lines. Respect them.

    4. Don’t get on the bad side of Clearwater PD! If you believe a cop is being a bastard just record and post! Like wise with Clams!

    5. Have F U N! It’s not everyday you got front row seats to the Tipping Point!

    6. Do some reseasrch on high level Clams and OSA. Know your Cultie!

    7. Ask questions!

    RS has these sign suggestions (remember, you only have seconds to get through to a Sea Org member):

    Communication is the Universal Solvent..Why Will You Not Talk To Me?

    Are you Getting what they Promised when you Joined?

    Sea Org you are not Even Clear

    What if We Are Telling The Truth & Scientology is Lying? Dare you Ask?

    When was Your Last Lib

    When was Your Last Phone Call Home that Was Not Monitored

    Why Do You Have To Leave Your Mail Enveloped Open, So OSA Can Read it First!

    You are Your Body

    You are Your Mind

    What’s your Retirement Plan?

    Your Family Misses you

    You Didn’t Pull It In, It Pulled You In

    Homo Novis No you Are Just Like Us

    The Truth Is Free

    You Can Do Whatever You Want

    You Can Say Whatever You Want

    Doubt Is not a Crime

    1-866-X SEA ORG

    Why Are So Many Declared

    Don’t Route Out, Just Blow..Help is Available…We Love you

  • 3feetback-of-COS

    I wonder if the City will have some official estimate of the size of the “crowd”?

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      14? oh wait, 29 with the Anons?

  • Sam Domingo

    This is going to be more fun for us than it is for our American counterparts. Lisa Marie lives in this neck of the woods and has a lot of connections into the cult headquarters here (INCLUDING staff members still in ‘good standing’)… OSA UK is about to go into overdrive and the natives will be getting restless again 😉 Hi OSA UK! I know you read these posts every day. Getting much sleep these days? Damage control must be mad. No libs for you this week.

    • Ruby

      Thanks for that, Sam. I love hearing that kind of feedback.

    • OrangySky

      Sam, you mean OSA UK isn’t invited to the festivities in Clearwater this week? Poor sods! 😉

  • Charles Manson

    Thetaburst was covered over there at WWP. Dude by the name of Gerhard Waterkamp out there in Sunland is behind it. He won’t come out and own up to it. Why? What’s he afraid of? Hell, the Church can’t do jackshit to anyone these days and couldn’t do jackshit to anyone back then either. OSA couldn’t last two minutes in my world.

    http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz262/charlesmansonscientologist/GerhardProof_zpse54eee79.png

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Seriously Charlie? Gerhard for real?
      Edit: OH!

      • Charles Manson

        Yeah. It’s Gerhard Waterkamp alright.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          😉 Thanks Charlie.

          • Charles Manson

            No problem. Say, when you comin’ up here to Corcoran to see me?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Honey, as soon as that keloid scar of the swastika goes away finally…
              I am all yours 😉

            • Charles Manson

              Ain’t you the darnedest. Yeah well at least I got me internet time these days.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              😉

            • Sherbet

              HAHAHAHA!

            • Sherbet

              You’re right, Bury. Without that one flaw, he’s a real looker, all right. I wonder if he still has all his teeth.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I live in Central Florida, Sherb.
              If anyone has six or more teeth…I consider that a WIN!!!!

            • Captain Howdy
            • Sherbet

              I’ve got to say, I’ve heard worse singers.

            • Captain Howdy

              Dennis Wilson and Terry Melcher thought he had some talent but the whole vibe weirded them out too much.

            • Sherbet

              I suppose Charlie was tolerable while he was singing, but when he started talking, the real coo-coo came through.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Who needs teeth with a personality like that? Oh, sorry.. Thought you were talking about hub..

            • OrangySky

              He’s got to have better teeth than LRH.

            • GlibWog

              Charlie SR. .. You Asshole

              Charlie JR. and I are still waitin for back Child Support! And I ain’t takin Weed for payment this time! errrrrrrrrgh

            • Charles Manson

              Weed for payment? I always pay cash. You’re confusin’ me with that Denise Miscavige chick!

              http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/07/01/denise-gentile.jpg

            • GlibWog

              Yep She Owes me too..

            • KJP in Portland

              Is she taller than her other twin? Inquiring minds want to know!

    • nottrue

      Charles we party at the Hog Farm in the 60s.You were very creepy

      • Charles Manson

        Hey man, what’s creepy? Not me. The system is creepy. Parole I wouldn’t even take. What I want is a fair hearing, a real trial.

        • nottrue

          You still owe me for the White Lighting

          • Charles Manson

            I don’t owe no one nuthin and that faggot Romney and his Hog Farm was nuthin to brag about.

            • nottrue

              Wel it was only 5 bucks a tab so ill let you slide.

        • OrangySky

          I know Vince Bugliosi pretty well. Any message you want me to give him?

          • nottrue

            He lived in Glendale back then.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Tell Vince I said Hi and he still owes me on our last argument about Marcia Clark.
            Tell him that I always win, and he knows WHY!
            PFTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

            and that is all I got to say about that.

          • Charles Manson

            Bugliosi was a sell out then and he’s a sell out now. Don’t bear him no grudge because he was a tool of the system and couldn’t see it. Sorry to hear he had cancer last year.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              ouch Charlie.

      • Captain Howdy

        I believe you. I met Wavy Gravy a few times in the 80’s in Berkeley and the guy from the Brotherhood of Light also.

        • nottrue

          hes almost 80 now

          • Sherbet

            You and Howdy are making me feel old, because I remember who these people are.

        • Sherbet

          Cool!

    • cdub

      Mr. C. Manson please tell us about your time in Scientology. Your records were removed the LA Orgs for some reason so it’s a mystery what wins you had and what courses you took.

    • Mary_McConnell

      Why the heck won’t he take me off the list when I unsubscribe? Many complain about this. He’s making enemies.

    • Mary_McConnell

      2007 ESMB post by MissDorfl

      “The local OSA troll on de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology (the German
      equivalent of a.r.s) uses the nic “sharky” and he occasionally
      (cross-)posted on a.r.s, too. So, I think that’s why the nic might sound
      familiar to you.

      I’m not giving away any secrets here, when I say that that “sharky”s
      real name is Gerhard Waterkamp, a Church-Scientologist, who left Germany
      because of alleged “religious persecution” and now trolls d.s.w.s. from
      somewhere in Florida (Clearwater?)

      I don’t think, however, that this Sharky is Gerhard Waterkamp. ”

      http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?2133-New-member-)&p=37929&viewfull=1#post37929

  • Observer

    I do not know where this came from, but here it is.

    • Charlotte

      I feel bad for Bart Simpson – you know she’s jealous that she’s usually forgotten in shoops. Probably desperate to be thought of as COB’s Number 2.

      • GlibWog

        Here ya go Char… Sciloooooooooney tunes does wonders for a person, huh… NO PHOTOSHOP required!

        • Charlotte

          Thanks, Glibby. I’d rather see the pic of you jumping out of a cake….

          • Anonolily

            Ditto!

          • GlibWog

            smooches..ha

        • Sherbet

          C’mon, she looks great for 76…

          • Charlotte

            All I can see is Crazy. And not the fun kind.

            • Sherbet

              Yes, like someone on the edge of hysteria. (Anyway, she’s really 56.)

            • Charlotte

              Yes, but considering how many lives she’s lived and how many she has to go, she’s probably closer to….56.

              Actually, looking into her eyes is making me sad. Look for a little while and they almost seem to be silently screaming. She’s probably working very hard to keep that part of herself silent, lest she has to turn herself in. Sad.

            • Sherbet

              With the millions she’s invested in cos, she must be seriously, firmly in its clutches.

            • Charlotte

              …And Obs keeps neglecting to include her in COB’s posse. What more does a clam hafta do to be part of the kool (aid) krowd?

            • Sherbet

              She’s in the second string. There are still plenty of live ones to shoop. In the meantime, she can do the voiceovers.

          • joan nieman

            Her roots are showing.

            • Sherbet

              So are mine, but I don’t have a gazillion million dollars and personal staff to follow me around with a tube of Miss Clairol.

              Her eyes must have been beautiful when she was young, but she is not aging well. Money can’t buy good genes or common sense, apparently.

        • GlibWog

          Here ya go Char.. 2012 picture..

          • Charlotte

            It’s like one of those Mall Glamour Photos.

            • GlibWog

              But not as good..

          • Anonolily

            2012 in what space time continuum ?

            • GlibWog

              Yep.. that’s what the photo said.. 2012… I laughed my ass off..

        • media_lush

          did this one ages ago….

          • GlibWog

            hahaha Brilliant Lush.. hahahha

        • Barbara Angel

          Well you had me fooled, I thought that was a monkey with a wig on?

        • Seannie5

          she’s really only in her mid to late 50’s? Yikes!

    • Sherbet

      Fantastic, Obs!

    • Captain Howdy

      I (((HUGS))) IT!

      • Sherbet

        Wow, that brought out a HUG from Howdy! We know it’s good now! Howdy don’t do no ((((HUGS)))) (usually).

        • Sandy

          WOW. all I ever got outta Howdy was “newbe” after 6 yrs. Kinda makes me sad he never even noticed me …

          • Sherbet

            Bring him a kitten or baby seal, and he’ll love you forever.

            • Artoo45

              Then Johnny Poppins would love my band . . .

            • Sherbet

              Should be “Revenge of the Baby Seals”

          • Anonolily

            You got Newbe? And after only six years?
            Impressive!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Isn’t the one on the left, ‘StillGrace”?

        Runs………………………………………………………..

        • stillgrace2

          Yes, after I let my hair grow out and cut my bangs. Damn the eyebrow plucking job.

        • OrangySky

          Who IS the one on the left?

          • Sherbet

            Kirstie I think.

          • Observer

            Kirstie.

            • Sherbet

              The photo you always choose for TC is so hysterically funny. And, to think, you didn’t alter the big goofy grin. That’s pure, unshooped TC.

            • Observer

              I think he should go with that hair in real life.

            • Sherbet

              Hook him up with Travolta’s preferred purveyor of hair.

            • Barbara Angel

              You mean paint shop, my bad I thought his rug was painted on?

      • stillgrace2

        Howdy? Is that you? Hugging??

        • OrangySky

          Shall we start calling you “Howdy Poppins” from now on?

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Or Howdy “feckin poppins”?

          • Captain Howdy

            Johnny Poppins

            Shit, i wish I’d thought of that 30 years ago. That would have made a cool ironic punk name.

            • Sherbet

              If you ever need a sock puppet (and I know you never will), there’s your name. Is Johnny Poppins any relation to Ronnie Poppins-Pinks-and-Grays?

            • Captain Howdy

              Johnny’s always poppin somethin’

            • Sherbet

              I’ll bet he is, Cap.

    • Barbara Angel

      WOW- – – Such a good likeness. The Three Evil Twins. Hahahahahah Kirstie seems to have lost weight perhaps her endocrines are finally balanced?

  • sugarplumfairy

    I think I figured out what the endocrine maCHEEN is for..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isrd7E5nzIQ&sns=em

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      GAH!!!!

  • media_lush

    it never rains but it pours…. you gotta figure how much the media hate TC to start putting him into headlines with rapists…. [his PR team must all be drunk on “fuck it, there’s nothing more we can do” drinking by now] …. pretty sure this headline title was changed to highlight Cruise

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2500772/Tom-Cruises-bodyguard-facing-rape-investigation.html

    • media_lush

      I mean, the WORLD media is having a field day…. words gone out from the bosses for a Tommy Girl takedown!

      • Sherbet

        I call that “Mission: Hilarious”

        Edit: Not the rape charges. The charges against TC in the court of public opinion.

      • Jo

        Has TC been seen in public since his deposition? I imagine he isn’t in happy place and is lying low.

        • TXCowgirl

          The depo was two months ago, so I’m guessing you mean since the transcript leak?

        • media_lush

          I think he and Miscavige are in a continual state of mutual frottage-embrace in the panic room of of one of his many luxury homes

          • Jo

            I’ll admit, I had to hearsay frottage.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        sounds like total BS to me…………Just sayin.

        • media_lush

          as I said, they’re having a field day….. and here’s a post that I posted on Radar that went into the moderation pool {i think it was too long}…. but at least they read it; I hope they pass it up to their UK seasoned journalist crew at the National Enquirer… love to see this story being reported again.

          {was unable to correct the grammar in a couple of places}

          • Sherbet

            What’s a “bell-end” in British slang, lush?

            • media_lush

              slang for the bulging helmet end of the penis*

              *sorry you had to find out

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

            • Sherbet

              Ha! Live and learn! Oh, you Brits and your slang…

            • media_lush

              I must admit it’s a living breathing thing that never ceases to amaze: Roger’s Profanisaurus is a particular favourite source of mine…. this gives you an idea:

              Billed as “probably the rudest book ever published” the latest offering from the smut peddlers over at Viz is a whistelstop tour through the most disgusting expressions the English language has to offer.

              Entitled “Roger’s Profanisaurus: Das Krapital”, the book takes Viz’ resident misogynist Roger Mellie’s dictionary of bad language as it’s cue. Featuring more than 12,000 profanities, insults and pottie mouthed sayings, it’s enough to make your ears bleed.

              With that in mind, here are 25 of the book’s best bits, as chosen by Roger Mellie himself.

              1. Adrian Chiles 1. n. prop. Cushion-faced former presenter of The One Show. 2. n. rhym. slang. Haemorrhoids.

              2. Asburb n. Any housing estate which embraces a dissentient lifestyle.

              3. Bag ladies’ period sim. Unpalatable. ‘Don’t buy Mrs Timpkin’s home made jam, vicar. I’ve tasted nicer bag ladies’ period.’

              4. Beer monkey n. A mythical simian creature which, during a drunken slumber, sneaks into your bed, ruffles your hair, steals your money and shits in your mouth.

              5. Boxing glove on a spring, like a sim. Descriptive of a noisomely miasmatic stoat. A stinky fanny. ‘I pulled down her pants and the stink hit me in the face like a boxing glove on a spring. And now over to Robert Peston for the latest developments from Wall Street.’

              6. Bradford dishwashing n. Pissing in the sink.

              7. Clacker whacker n. Any hand-held, anatomically-formed object used by a woman to relieve stress. A neck massager.

              8. Cornish internet n. Ceefax, teletext. The skinternet.

              9. Dipping a worm in a bucket v. Engaging in unsatisfying sexual congress. The last hot dog in the tin.

              10. Dutch afterburner n. The romantic act of having your girlfriend fart in your mouth, then blowing it up her nose. That’s going to take some arranging.

              11. Leave negative feedback v. To fart and walk away.

              12. Man meringue n. A light, crumbly nest of dried milm found on the inside of a gentleman’s well-worn Bill Grundies.

              13. Manshake n. A vigorous three-minute greeting for one’s best friend.

              14. Perv windows n. Sunglasses.

              15. Reedle v. To piss through an awkward opening or inconvenient gap, eg. Between the flaps of a tent, out of a partially opened Velux window, through Esther Rantzen’s letterbox.

              16. Relaxed her fitness regime, she has euph. Of a svelte lady who has got married and evidently found the key to the pie cupboard. ‘I see that Claire out of off of Steps has relaxed her fitness regime, then.’

              17. Roy Walker moment n. A satisfying but morally dubious sexual encounter, eg. With a friend’s wife or a woman old enough to be one’s mother. Or a friend’s mother. From the Catchphrase personality-vacuum’s TV catchphrase “it’s good, but it’s not right”.

              18. She could shit on my chest and slap it with a cricket bat exclam. A romantic young man’s declaration of his deep, undying love for the new girl in his life. ‘Did my heart love ’till now? Forswear its sight. For I never saw true beauty ’till this night. ‘Tis Juliet, and if she’s not my true love I wouldst eat my hat. She could shit on my chest and slap it with a cricket bat.’ (from Romeo and Juliet by William Shakespeare).

              19. Three dick gob n. A capacious mouth. ‘The next record is You’re So Vain by Carly Simon, the lady with the three dick gob. And it’s for Terry, who is seven today. Lots of love from mummy, daddy, nana and granpa Johnson and nana Robins.’ (Ed “Stewpot” Stewart, Radio 1 Junior Choice, 1974).

              20. Tramp’s oyster n. A hockled-up sheckle on the pavement; a salty al fresco delicacy blessed with very few, if any, aphrodisiac properties. Also tramp’s breakfast, docker’s omelette, greb, greeny, prairie oyster, gold watch, Dutch pikelet or Old Leigh oyster.

              21. Two page Charlie n. The literary equivalent of a two push Charlie. An overexcited one-handed reader who foolishly doesn’t take the opportunity to peruse his new art pamphlet in a leisurely manner before squirting his curd.

              22. Ugly as a Thai stripper’s scrotum sim. Graphic metaphor, descriptive of that moment when something which seems to be going along swimmingly suddenly takes a distinctly unpleasant turn. ‘Senna’s lap looked perfect until he ran wide into the Tamburello Curve, when things turned as ugly as a Thai stripper’s scrotum.’

              23. Up and over like a pan of milk euph. Descriptive of a gentleman who is so good at sex that he can ejaculate before he’s even got his pants off.

              24, Widow’s memories n. Penis-shaped sausages, cucumbers etc. Indeed, anything vaguely cylindrical in a supermarket which is fingered nostalgically by old ladies.

              25. Zuffle v. To wipe one’s charlie clean on the curtains after having a bang, usually in a posh bird’s house, ie. One that has curtains. To fly the flag.

              Roger’s Profanisaurus: Das Krapital is published by Dennis Books, and available in store from 21st September 2010 £13.99

            • Sherbet

              Oh, my God, Lush. You’ve taken this nice lady to places she didn’t want to go. (I’m laughing and retching at the same time.)

            • Jo

              I’m glad ML told you, I wasn’t sure how to explain it politely. Bell-end is a popular Uk insult to anyone annoying.

            • Sherbet

              I don’t think “politely” comes into this particular subject, Jo!

            • media_lush

              I must admit that it travels to the absolute limits of bad taste but it’s their practise of putting it into a proper sentence that makes it acceptable (for me anyway)…. now and again there is one so poetically disgusting that you just have to stand back and applause.

            • Artoo45

              Oh, so “dickhead.”

            • media_lush

              “bell end” has a smidgen of assumed stupidity and lack of deliberation behind any behaviour…

              “dickhead” assumes a certain degree of malice behind similar behaviour.

              Dwight Schrute would be a dickhead whilst Toby and Kevin would be bell ends

            • Casabeca

              I always thot it was like our “went pear shaped”.
              My brain stands corrected :).

            • media_lush

              …. as an insult it’s relatively mild in our vernacular …. same strength level as your “dipshit”, say

        • Sandy

          No matter – the media are eating his lunch!

          • Anonolily

            Ok, I can accept and appreciate that.

    • SandiCorrena

      OMG that guy was from OLTL!!!!

  • Ruby

    So…off topic here, but it’s not the first one. :)
    I’ve been thinking of how to respond to something a few days ago and that is what this comment is about.
    Buzz Aldrin…I just want to say, this guy is NOT a scilon. He is friends with a celebrity scilon, and like many people getting star struck, he may have made some wrong choices because of that celebrity influence. That is where this man is at… and in this elderly time in his life, he is not reading the internet and aware of the issues of the criminality of the cherch.
    As far as I am concerned, he is a hero in my book. He went to the friggin moon, for Gawds sake!
    So, I felt I needed to remind everyone of what this man has accomplished and should really be known for.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Agreed Ruby.
      And besides, Buzz is the least of all of our problems.

    • Sherbet

      Why does he get a pass and Barbara Walters does not?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Because she is MUCH more of a synchopatic twat. (sic)

        • Sherbet

          Let’s send her to the moon.

      • Ruby

        Just my opinion Sherb. Barbara Walters reads the news everyday. She is fully aware of the criminal accusations to the cherch as that is her business to know. Not so with Buzz. All he knows is what his celeb friend tells him.
        And…I think Buzz Aldrin has done way more to benefit mankind by adventuring to the moon, than Barbara Walters has by being on tv.
        Again, my opinion.

        • Sherbet

          You make sense, Ruby. I wasn’t trying to be a jerk, but I didn’t see the difference. Now I do.

          • Ruby

            Not for a moment did I think you were being a jerk. I know you better than that, even if only by internet. :).

            • Sherbet

              Thank you, my friend!

            • MaxSpaceman

              Not knowing anything about the topic of the comment, I placed for the record a short video of Buzz Aldrin off YouTube.

          • MaxSpaceman

            [Simply, for the record. I know nothing of his ‘stand’ on cherch nor celeb budd.]

            Buzz Aldrin. Rocket Man.
            From X-15 Space Plane. To 1st Explorer Satellite 1958. To Apollo 11 in 1969.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJmQkeI9ho

            • Ruby

              Exactly!! :) Awesome! Thanks, MaxS.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Well, after all Ruby, aren’t I the personification of — Men in Space ?!?

            • Ruby

              Yes!! :))

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Buzz Aldrin is good people and a national hero. He’s willing to punch a d-bag stalker conspiracy theorist in the face and make fun of himself on TV. This is from 30 Rock. I walked on your face!!!

      http://youtu.be/bkntr0IVO78

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Who’s talking shit about Buzz Aldrin…

      In the words of Mr. Garisson: YOU GO TO HELL, YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE

      • Ruby

        In last weeks article with Jeff, it was brought to our attention that Buzz is this year’s Grand Marshall at the Hollywood parade. There was then some conversation and speculation about his involvement in the cherch.

  • Sibs

    “All of these instances of people telling me how bad and evil I was forced me to look at myself and examine my feelings, intentions and what I really knew to be true. As a result, I underwent a mental shift. I came to see that all of these people telling me that I was bad were just a bunch of hypocrites. They claimed to care about other people but, in reality, their selfishness was quite transparent. All you had to do was look for it and trust yourself. I knew I’d done things wrong, but I also knew that my transgressions, despite what people around me were saying, were not evil.

    Suddenly, I was not afraid to call things what they were or trust my own judgment about other people, as well as myself. Previously, I’d compare my actual feelings to whatever Scientology said I was supposed to feel. If I felt anything else, then surely the problem was with me. As a result, I doubted myself constantly. I doubted whether I was a good person; I doubted whether the people around me were good people; I doubted whether my emotions were appropriate – all because Scientology made me feel that I was the problem.

    Now, for the first time, I was able to see myself for what I was: someone who made mistakes and was trying to make up for them. I might not have made great decisions, but that didn’t make me bad and it certainly didn’t make me evil. “Evil” was where they made their mistake – I might have had doubts, but I came to recognize that I was not evil. If there was one thing I was certain of, it’s that I cared about other people. I cared about my friends tremendously and would not have put them before myself at any moment. I knew I was not an SP, because SPs did not feel that way. I knew without a doubt that I was a good person, and, no matter what anyone else thought or said about me, no matter who they were or how important, I didn’t care.”

    – Jenna Miscavige-Hill, Beyond Belief, p. 237-238; the moment she stopped letting Scientology take control of her thoughts.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Jenna, without a lot of adult interference, had an integrity with the cult was not capable of destroying.

    • MaxSpaceman

      A poignant description, Sibs – and thank you for posting that – of the jailbreak from The Prison of Belief. Her moments of self-realization. Her dawning. Her awakening.

    • Casabeca

      That crystal moment is what we wish for everyone. A beautiful share.

  • Anonolily

    Sheesh”….almost 1500 comments on a slow day?

    • Charlotte

      I wish you’d left it at ‘sheesh’. Your one word posts were profound.

      • Anonolily

        I can never leave anything alone. That is why I am so prolific, and yet, so boring.
        Snort.

    • TXCowgirl

      That’s what happens when a troll comes out to play for part of the day.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Zackly.

  • NOLAGirl

    Seems they have the Sciloon slaves busy on Twitter tonight, posting pictures of their dear leader. Wonder if this is a new picture…and how much “touching up” was done to it so it would be please Tiny Boots ego?

    @ Scientology “Scientology Media Photo: Mr. David Miscavige, Chairman of the Board Religious Technology Center

    • Observer

      He’s very … shiny.

      • Sibs

        It’s like looking at one of those overlit make-up commercials – if we make it brighter you’ll have to squint harder to see the flaws!

      • NOLAGirl

        My thoughts exactly. They could move him straight to a wax museum and no one would know the difference….well, except that he’d be digging in the pockets of the other figures looking for “donations”

      • Sherbet

        He’s as natural-looking as something you’d see at either Madame Tussaud’s or Forest Lawn.

    • Sunny Sands

      Seems totally natural….not.

    • Anonolily

      Nice color scheme. At least it isn’t Sciloon blue!

      • Sherbet

        Must be celebrating St. Patrick’s Day.

    • Snippy_X

      Why is he always pinning his left ear.

    • Aslansown

      Is it just me, or does he look EXACTLY the same in every picture??? Same smile, tilt of the head, hands on the podium, etc.

      • TXCowgirl

        Do you think they stage the photos before the actual event?

        • Aslansown

          They must. OR maybe they just have a picture of him and then they shoop different color ties and backgrounds for different occasions.

          • TXCowgirl

            I can imagine Lil’ Davey wanting a new photo of his fine self each time.

      • KJP in Portland

        Too many years of steroids and other drugs…he’s stuck in that position.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        From Tony at the Village Voice…check it out LOL

        All the guys that commented on VV are used to it.

        http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientology_ideal_org_secret.php

        • Aslansown

          I’m laughing so hard at that! I’ll have to bookmark it to read all the comments. Thanks!

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Tony knows how to do his job. Tony, you should revive that article and add some more pictures to it. LOL

      • stillgrace2

        No, it’s not just you. His stance is choreographed down to the sequence of where he places his hands. John P. once wrote a very interesting analysis of DM’s podium posing.

        Anyhoo … just in case you have never seen this, I’m linking to WWP, where someone else noticed the “pose” and created a very interesting animated gif. It’s the third from the top, you can’t miss it!

        https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/david-miscavige-project-mass-shoop.11937/page-51

        • Aslansown

          That gif is hilarious! Thanks!

          • Casabeca

            Made me dizzy, and his left hand looks like it’s playing an invisible keyboard ;).
            Poor DM is the preacher and the organist, has to do EVERYTHING himself!

            • Aslansown

              Well he is known to be a micro manager!

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Always with his right arm extended, hand near the bottom right corner of the podium, as if there is a button tucked underneath and he needs to keep his hand ready to push it at a moment’s notice. I wonder:

      a) What would trigger him to press said button

      b) What does said button unleash on the unsuspecting crowd

      • Casabeca

        Does it give a little steroid or scotch infusion?
        Maybe it drops a web on the crowd to trap them?
        Electrical shock to the sound guys if they mess up?
        The mind boggles!

  • Sunny Sands

    They have these large trees in pots along one block of Ft. Harrison Ave. across from Davey’s Park. Perhaps they will use “tree tech” similar to Portland, although these trees seem shorter.

    • Anonolily

      I KNEW IT!!!

    • Sibs

      You know, where I used to work we had trees on wheels that we could arrange however the clients wanted. Surprised $cientology hasn’t invested in something like that.

      • MaxSpaceman

        They need things to do for the SeaOrg prisoners on RPF and RPF’s RPF. It would be counter intuitive for The Cult of $cientology to invest in trees-on-wheels devices.

    • Jo

      I think they might be planting more trees to help block out the noise from the protesters?

      • Sunny Sands

        My thought was they don’t want the protestors recording or seeing anything. Mike Rinder has a blog post up that the recorded events can only be shown at orgs (not missions). They are highly protective of these recordings.

        • DeElizabethan

          They will be Got! Some One said so. Can’t wait.

    • Aslansown

      They are going all out on blocking people from seeing anything. Is there any area even remotely close that protestors could be?

      • Sunny Sands

        The Tampa Bay Times article says they are closing Ft. Harrison and the Ft. Harrison sidewalks on both sides of the street 11-6 on Sunday. Nothing said about any other streets, or times. The tent is on Franklin St. There are lots of open spaces for protestors. Whether you can see or hear from the spaces, I don’t know, at least during the speech on Ft. Harrison.

        • MaxSpaceman

          Man, sSands — I *need* your daily reports.
          It’s come to that. It’s a Jones I just can’t break, Sunny Sands ~

          • Sunny Sands

            Thanks, I’m glad you like them.

            • DeElizabethan

              LUV em!

            • Jo

              Me too, obsessed with that dam tent. Thank you for posting daily.

            • Casabeca

              It really bring all the posts to life.
              It must be a hassle, but we are so grateful.

            • Sunny Sands

              It’s fun, no hassle at all.

    • DeElizabethan

      Sunny, just got back on and maybe it’s already noted. Saw them late afternoon trying to put up another graphic art cover on the very front of the main tent. The wind was blowing and was comical. It looked similar to the top tent art. Also a city employee I recognized was talking with a guard and I heard him say “well it’s your property” as I passed by with window open. Sure wish I had blown horn or stopped. but so much activity. Also activity in the Oak Cove parking lot with 4 large Sysco trucks parked. Maybe another tent? haha.

      • Sunny Sands

        I expected them to put a graphic on the front of the big top, because they did in England. Some of the red bunting on the North side had blown down this morning, too funny. I’ve noticed before the Oak Cove parking lot (or next to it) looked like something was going on there, but there’s a fence blocking the view.

        • DeElizabethan

          I usually ride south on Osceola, turn into the city parking lot and come around and go North with clear enough view right inside of Oak Cove where they park and that’s where I saw the trucks and manual labor guy. One could even park there and walk around. Probably blocked for events, tho it is a way to connect to Court St. and the Beach.

          • Sunny Sands

            Good idea to try.

        • Aslansown

          OK – pray for strong winds so the rest of the bunting will fall!

      • Aslansown

        Sysco is a foodservice company. They don’t want to run out of burritos for the Hibiscus restaurant.

        • TXCowgirl

          Thanksgiving turkey burritos.

        • DeElizabethan

          LOL!

    • KJP in Portland

      THOSE are trees???

      Orygun laughs at them…

      • Sunny Sands

        The smaller they are, the cheaper they are.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        As long as Missy Miscavige can stroll under them, they are considered trees.

      • Casabeca

        At a September wedding I drove from Portland to Cannon Beach.
        You win the tree competition! So, so lovely there.

  • Sherbet

    Ciao, all. The battery in my J&D is nearly dead, so I’ve got to recharge.

    • Ruby

      Nighty nite

    • Eclipse-girl

      sleep well.

  • Charlotte

    Of all the things I’ve read about Miscavige, the one that has stuck around to haunt me the most is him sneaking up behind people to strangle them. I can’t get that out of my head. It’s been in my dreams.
    And it keeps making me think of Gollum strangling creatures in his caves and tunnels.

    • Room 101

      This should bring you solace. DM is quite literally only 5’5″. With shoes on.

      • Charlotte

        I honestly thought he was shorter than that. With shoes on.
        But, bloody hell, the kind of a creature that would act like he does. Terrifying at any height.

        • Room 101

          Honestly, he really might be like 5’3″ as Max said. Dude is way below average in height. I’ve met him. He glared at me for being tall. Seriously.

          EDIT: In fact, now that I think of it, I probably got declared for being fucking tall.

          • Charlotte

            I have words words words about that, and none of them are cohesive at the moment.

            • Casabeca

              They are joking around and don’t see the scary side…are you ok?
              I know what it feels like to be effected deeply, and maybe darkly, by things that are funny-scary to others.
              Davey mostly picks on big guys who could stand up to him if they so chose.
              They are just choosing to submit, as adults, to a terribly bad leader.

              Good thing the boogeyman is far from you and you little family.

              Peace to you sweet Charlotte.

            • Charlotte

              I’m a big fan of levity, Casabeca. It’s been my coping mechanism for years.

              Thank you for being so lovely and concerned. I am genuinely shitscared by the fact that there are creatures like McSavage in the world. Vile, loathsome, and COWARDLY.

              At least there are so many great people out there too. And loads of them right here Bunkering :-)

          • Rachel Heidi

            There was a self-loathing bully in high school who used to stare me down for that reason. He shot himself ten years ago… don’t think DM would do that.

            • Room 101

              Not if the gun cabinet is too high

          • MaxSpaceman

            Men that tiny short have a *massive complex*. I’m sure he would’ve glared a laser hole through you if he could have.

          • aquaclara

            Love this story. Thanks.

          • Zana

            LOL! You got declared for being tall! Hilarious!

            • Room 101

              Yes, it’s funny. But half of me is literally having an epiphany that it just might be the truth right now. I have some soul searching to do.

            • Zana

              Wow. You are probably right. That might be the only way he could ‘grab you by the collar, pounce on you and beat you up.’. As John Kennedy said about him, “What a nasty piece of work.”

              Glad you’re out. You sound stronger (and more compassionate) from the experience. Ain’t real life the bomb? :-). Stay well!

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            That makes perfect sense tho.

          • GlibWog

            OMG I just said that..hahah

        • Artoo45

          That’s right . . .

      • MaxSpaceman

        Yeah, Room, I was gonna say, uh- make that 5′ 3″ in the booking room at West Los Angeles Police Department, Westwood Calif.

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Wait, who was booked in West LA?

      • Charlotte

        And we’re all within arm’s reach when we’re sitting down

      • GlibWog

        I would guess.. TC is 5’5 and DM is 5’3″ I have compared pictures over the years.. and compared them with other people..

        I have done my research and this is what I came up with..

        EDIT.. Both without shoes..

        • aurora50

          An illustrated chart of Hollywood actors, by height:
          http://www.nextmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/HHC-Hi-res.jpg

          • GlibWog

            aurora.. Yep I’ve seen it.. I don’t buy it for one minute.. TC is known to wear high lifts in his shoes.. I still go with 5’5″ bare feet…

          • media_lush

            I’m 5’10” and bumped into him in a club in New York years ago and my chin could easily rest on his head [now measure the height of your head!]…… here’s a pic that really shows his height without lifts!!

    • Sibs

      “The rock and pool
      Is nice and cool
      So juicy sweeeet!

      Our only wish
      To catch a fish
      So juicy sweeeeeeeet!”

      • MaxSpaceman

        Nice one, Sibs !

        • Sibs

          It would be even scarier if I could find a creepy face-shot and shoop DM’s head on top of it. But I don’t have those kind of skills anymore.

          • Charlotte

            Do you think we could make a special request of one of the Bunker Shoopsperts?

            It is rather cathartic

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      He is going to get his ass kicked one day. I hope. Just like he has been doing. He’s a modern day Napoleon.

  • MaxSpaceman

    I find particularly annoying and disgusting is El Ronald Hubbturd writing and speaking about the education of young children, teens and young adults. Here’s what I’m talking about.

    “Education – point of agreement”
    PROFESSIONAL AUDITOR’S BULLETIN. PAB 110 – 15 April 1957
    The Oldest Continuous Publication in Dianetics and Scientology

    “You might look up some time a university record as to suicide and nervous breakdown; such a record is honestly kept, I know. I did this once and I had a lot of trouble. I wanted to know how many students had committed suicide in that university and they wouldn’t own up to it, but I found out there had been quite a few and there’d been a great many nervous breakdowns, all at examination time. They spend the whole semester giving somebody some stable data and then at examination time they take that all away suddenly. In other words, simply implanting the recall and then pulling it back out again has been defined as education; but it is nothing but a black operation – nothing but. To do this to little kids is to do away with their initiative; therefore a time for revolution in the field of education is definitely at hand.”
    Lafayette Ronald H. was a monster greed-machine from the bowels of Hell. And what he wrote remains the excrement of a sadistic, degraded sorry excuse of a human being.

    • Eclipse-girl

      damn, every time I read these things. I feel like Sherbet.

      I realize these are Verbatim BUT WHAT THE FUCK?

      I certainly do not want twerps like Jayden Smith running around.

      • MaxSpaceman

        It is so time-after-time-over-and-again W-T-F !!!

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        LOL He’s just a privileged little rich kid. There are lots of those. I have worked with some as old as 30.

        • KJP in Portland

          AS OLD AS 30?

          …LOL! someone help me here! hold him down! smack, smack, smack!

          Ladies…your turn…

          (wish I was ‘as old as 30’ again…might sell my soul for that!)

          • stillgrace2

            KJP, I think he was referring to the fact that some privileged little rich “kids” can be as old as 30. Derek is counting down to 30 himself (not yet, though) and I’m sure he doesn’t think of himself as old.

            I think “old” is always 10 years older than however old someone is at any moment.

    • Sibs

      That doesn’t even make sense to my never-in ears. Who’s taking away data? He’s just bitter because he flunked out. Boo-hoo, I didn’t study because I was too busy flying planes and couldn’t remember anything and didn’t do well on my finals!

      • Eclipse-girl

        The man was a frigging idiot. His talent was that he could spin a yarn. a useful talent for a fiction writer.

        But he clearly hated science, technology, mathematics. When one reads his “serious stuff” most people are pounding their heads because there is not a series of cogent thoughts arriving to a central point.

        • MaxSpaceman

          Which continues to *amaze* us Never-ins, who just cannot believe that Cult of $cientology members see Lafayette as The Genius of Geniuses. Greater than Buddha (an implant). Greater than Christ (an implalnt).

          But, if you caught Simi Valley’s video, which she posted this morning, you can see how a smart, up-to-date New York City woman, got swept up into the Cult and remained for … a very long, long time. !!But thank Xenu is out out out now.!!

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            It is not about what Hubbard says. It’s all the hundreds of people around you reinforcing that he is a genius. The millions of dollars poured into brand new buildings in his name. The worship that everyone does of him around you. It has nothing to do with him.

            Folie a deux, Max. Shared psychosis.

            • MaxSpaceman

              I hear you.
              (heard from my budd. will forward you contact info from that part of Space Station 33 that has comm lines open to Austin, later dude.)

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Haha cool. I’ll be waiting in the Van Allen Belts.

      • Artoo45

        I think he fried his brains in the Van Allen Belt. Ooooweee! It’s hot up there! Or was it the shock of the whole freight train thing on Venus? Marcab V? Maybe he fell off the roller coaster in the Hoipolloi’s Amusment Park 45 trillion years ago? Never got over those sudden snaps in incident one? Hard to say, ain’t it?

        • MaxSpaceman

          It am! It am, ar2. Freaking dildo monster Lafayette Ronald!

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        “You might look up some time a university record as to” — That is not even proper syntax. Can he not just say it the right way: You should look up the suicide record that a University keeps.

        Also he makes it sound like suicides happen ALLLLLLLLLLL the time in Universities. Like the public wouldn’t know. There’s some secret operation making kids kill themselves left and right.

        This is why Scientologists are so stupid.

        • Zana

          Why doesn’t somebody look up all the suicides and sickness from people doing Scientology?

        • Aslansown

          Actually, there are studies that the second leading cause of death among college students is suicide (after accidents). The 18-24 year old group in general has that rate of suicide so the cause isn’t necessarily college, but unfortunately it does happen, probably more than we know b/c the administration doesn’t want that tainting their reputation.

          It makes me think of Philip Gale, the MIT student from a scientology family who jumped to his death on LRH’s birthday.

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Duh you said that, never mind lol

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        I read that line as his bitching that he couldn’t use the text book or notes during an exam. You nailed it, as well.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Says the guy who FAILED MISERABLY at ALL of his education.

  • Walter Mitty

    Enders Game —— End Game

  • media_lush

    I would like to go on record and predict that there will be some major enturbulation during Miscavige’s big GAT II speech….. and it will come from someone on the inside.

    That is all.

    • Artoo45

      The person who took the picture from the Fart Harrison?

      • media_lush

        I have loads of folders of pics … unfortunately this one didn’t come with any provenance but seemed the most appropriate in a hurry

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Can we see this alleged picture that involves alleged shenanigans? lol

          • media_lush

            remind me…. the Juliette Lewis one?

    • SandiCorrena

      He’s always even little-er than you think isn’t he?

      • Zana

        He looks like “Johnny”, the little guy who walked around the Beverly Hills Hotel paging people for many years. Johnny was always dressed up in a monkey suit with a little hat on his head… and he wasn’t much taller than Davey. Johnny (and Davey) looked like a little guy who worked the Elevator at Bullocks Wilshire when I was a little girl… he sat on a stool next to the buttons and as the doors opened and women would walk in and out he would call out, “Sports, Ladies Dresses, Lingerie…etc.” Johnny and the Elevator Guy were little like Davey with braid hanging around their uniforms and little monkey hats. Right on, Davey!! Announce the opening…. “GAT II, Ladies lingerie, Pots and Pans, and Sooper Dooper Power!”

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Classic! I have heard the fake navy uniforms compared to many things, but that’s the first time I’ve heard elevator attendant. All they need are the lil hats!

        • Aslansown

          YES! That’s who he reminds me of. I found a picture of him – the resemblance is uncanny. (I’m convinced that the reason there’s such a big podium is to hide the box DM stands on.)

          SHOOT — I forgot to attach the picture and it won’t let me add it. Just a second — just put it up in another post.

          • Aslansown

            Here’s the picture (refresh)

            • MaxSpaceman

              Call ! Call ! Call for Phillip Mor – iss !!!

        • Aslansown

          Haha! You and I must be around the same age because I still remember when they had the elevator attendant in a uniform sitting on a stool. Days gone by!

        • Casabeca

          I loved Bullocks!!!

          • Zana

            Did you grow up in Los Angeles? I still have a collection of fine leather gloves that i got one pair at a time that I wore when I dressed up…. Went to Cotillion and church and stuff. And I have 2 beautiful umbrellas I bought from Bullock’s Westwood when I was in my early teens. It seems like just a chapter or so ago in my life. Sweet.

            • Casabeca

              Born in th South, moved West at 12.
              Shopped at the Scottsfale Bullocks and the La Jolla Bullocks a lot.
              I still remember them wrapping all my Christmas gifts, outfits for HS reunion, bdays, anniversaries, and lots of pretties for me and my young family. A great destination !

    • MaxSpaceman

      Dude, as I look out the porthole of my Orbiter, every night, from now until that event begins, I will be praying to Xenu | Xemu that your prediction comes true true true !!!

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      HOLY SHIT he is SHORT LMFAO. Why are these people scared of him! Just beat the ever loving shit out of him and be done with it!

      • GlibWog

        Awwwwwww he is so cute in his little suit..

        • AnyOldName1

          A little boy in his sailor suit. How cute.

    • Aslansown

      He looks like a Homunculus (miniature, fully formed person) — a word I learned from watching the Big Bang Theory (yes, it is educational!).

    • MaxSpaceman

      “Little Caesar.” Dave Miscavige, Chairman RTC, The Cult of $cientology

      http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=little+caesar+edward+g+robinson&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=A182C05C7C772A8DD114A182C05C7C772A8DD114
      Warner Bros./First National, directed by Mervyn Leroy, produced by Hal Wallis & Daryl Zanuck, starring Edward G. Robinson.

    • whenpigsswim

      Where IS he?

    • Casabeca

      Or a Kanye, “I’m a let you finish…”.
      Just this once ;).

      • Rachel Heidi

        Oh My Gosh, that’s it! Kanye West vs. Dave Miscavige! I think I’d die from lulz.

        • Casabeca

          Oh good, another slightly wicked Bunker pal!

    • John P.

      Would be interesting to have someone who recognizes the people in that picture to estimate when it was taken and to say how many of the six guys flanking Miscavige are still in the cult. Or how many are in the hole.

      • media_lush

        I reposted the pic on todays bunker post and loads of people have been replying

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    MidwestMom sent me a link. Looks like Hollywood Reporter announced the launch of MI-5 in 2015.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/mission-impossible-5-hit-theaters-655826

    I left a comment asking for a new lead. Ryan Gosling or something. :)

    More:

    Michael Fassbender
    Matt Damon
    Michael Trevino
    Laz Alonzo
    Idris Elba (seems like he could have had a bigger part in Prometheus)
    Terrence Howard

    I am also VERY disappointed that JJ Abrams is doing the movie :( Because I simply won’t watch it.

    • media_lush

      heh heh

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        HAHAHAH I love it.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        I hope you’re right. I love secret agent movies and JJ Abrams, but can we get someone hot in there please. TC has NO sex appeal at ALL. Ew.

    • BigMcLargeHuge

      Cruise’s production company has the rights to the franchise. He isn’t going anywhere.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        You shush it negative nancy.

      • media_lush

        rights are worth nothing if no one is willing to finance the movie…. doubly so if he comes attached as part of the deal.

        • MaxSpaceman

          David Ellison’s Skydance is co-financing Mission 5.
          It’s distribution date is set for Christmas 2015.
          Hollywood Reporter. Provided by Guest/Midwest Mom to Derek to post.

          • media_lush

            no one’s signed on….. (grabbed 2 seconds ago)

            • media_lush

              at this stage of the game “talk is cheap” and the PR drones are trying their hardest to spin that this film is actually going ahead…. as a betting man [which I am…. see my betslip from tonight] I would give 4/5 that Cruise is going to “be in” MI5…. if he was clever he’d remove himself from the acting side of the project and promote Renner… that way he’s likely to make shit load of money…. but I don’t think his ego could handle it and I reckon the film will keep getting put back and put back

    • KJP in Portland

      Everyone in my family (6) is on LOCKDOWN for watching, purchasing, going to see, anything with Tom Cruise. They know enough about his nutty ass by me to NOT tempt my retaliation at missed-allowances, missed dinners-out, etc.

      The biggest weapon we have against that piece of smega is to hit him in the wallet (and I’ve been doing that for at least 10 years)

      • TXCowgirl

        Sooooo, you’ve told your family that TC is entheta and they should not pursue any info about him and they should look away if they come across any photo, movies, etc, of the SP (special person)???

        I’m just messin’ with you KJP. :-))) Hugs!

        • KJP in Portland

          I’ve told them the whole story about the movie start that is so rich and stupid that he goes to a church that worships space aliens, lol!

      • whenpigsswim

        Our house too KJP. Lucky thing – the kids have heard so much about Tom from me, that they don’t want to see him anymore!

  • KJP in Portland

    Yo, hey…

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Hi!

      • KJP in Portland

        I’m just trying to get my arm around the stories and the posts. Looks like Bunker got pretty trolled up today…gotta weed through the jungle!

        • Artoo45

          Well, because I worked so golldurned hard on it, here’s this from about 5 hours ago . . . I know, I know, shameless self-promoter is shameless.

          • MaxSpaceman

            Very very fine, r245 !!!
            Makes me feel right at home, as I’ll be taking the space plane to Clearwater for the Events weekends. Thanx !

          • KJP in Portland

            I’d rather see a shoop with:

            1) DHS helos parked on top, youknow, the Black Ops ones…

            2) SEAL team helos parked alongside the DHS helos and in in the courtyard.

            3) How about a couple helos in the air with Special Forces operators rappelling down into the biggest BUNKer of them all.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Hmph.

            TARDIS still hasn’t shown up yesterday…

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Posted this earlier but I think it got lost in the troll battled. I found an actual interaction between Marty Rathbun when he was in the Sea Org and David Miscavige. David is of course the one with the cat.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb1_UjIPCTE

  • media_lush

    JUST IN!!!!

    Totally off-topic but this is just too frikkin’ amazing to not share….. Andy Kaufman?…. his daughter says he’s not dead!!!

    http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/13/andy-kaufman-alive-daughter-video-dead/

    • SandiCorrena

      I saw that too————-crazy!

    • MaxSpaceman

      O m G !!
      Has to be a marketing thing, to zip along her project(s), ya’ think?

    • KJP in Portland

      I loved Andy Kaufman. I wish he were here today. He’d still be top-top-top billing and with all the technology that has advanced in these 30 years, he’d sure have a lot MORE material to make us split our sides with.

      • MaxSpaceman

        And I loved Andy *after* he passed. Years later I’d watch his stuff and was just like wow! what amazingly funny and creative stuff.

    • GlibWog

      A real daughter wouldn’t have blown his ” SECRET” And Andy would have shown up if he was ready

      OR NOT AT ALL.. That is just the way he rolled. I loved Andy on Taxi.. but Wrestling, talk shows and comedy shows.. MEH

    • TXCowgirl

      Easy answer – compare her blood test to that of Andy’s brother. Ta-da! Or it’s a reeeeeeeally long con: Andy froze his sperm before dying with the plan that a women (who was in cahoots with Andy and his plan/con) would be fertilized with it several years after his passing and that off-spring would come forward 24 years later. Then again, maybe I’ve had too much Kool-Aid & vodka tonight….kidding.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Kidding, uhm, in that you *didn’t* have too much Kool-Aid & Vodka tonight?!?

        • TXCowgirl

          Well, I didn’t have the Kool-Aid.

          • MaxSpaceman

            That’s what I was thunkin’ TexasCG !

            • TXCowgirl

              And now, this not-Kool-Aid is making me sleepy. Hasta mañana. zzzzzzzz…..

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      This seems like an Andy Kaufman thing to do, right? She believes she is his daughter and this is her way of honoring him.

      EDIT: Not that he actually faked his death, but Kaufman loved his hoaxes. A family member’s hoax that he is not dead is what I meant.

    • media_lush

      THR leads with it being his brother saying he is alive….. good be a bit more truth in this…. wowser!!

      http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/andy-kaufmans-brother-says-comedian-655760

    • Robert Eckert

      That’s actually Barbara Schwarz’s daughter by The Real Marty Rathbun

  • KJP in Portland

    One of Kirk’s off the wall takes here: And, I agree that this “ThetaBurst” entity makes it a pain in the ass for Tony to discern what is true or what is road apples…

    But did anyone think what I though of, the MOMENT I read that? It hit me right away, I won’t hide from it. It stood there right in front of me…

    1) The fake message of rolling back the opening to December (whatever the date), and maybe it’s my meteorological / intelligence background from the Navy here…

    1a) “Moving the date back to December 29th.

    SOMEONE IS TRYING TO DISRUPT THE MIGRATION TO CLEARWATER ON SCHEDULED FOR THIS WEEKEND! IF THEY CAN SUCCEED IN FAKING 10, 100, 500 PEOPLE INTO THINKING IT’S NOT THIS WEEKEND AND GET THEIR BRAINS TO MESS-UP FOR JUST 2 DAYS…THEY’LL MISS THE OPENIN AND ATTENDANCE WILL BE LESS, BY THESE 10, 100 OR 500 PEOPLE.

    Unfortunately for Tony…IT’S A DAMNED GOOD-ENOUGH RUSE THAT LOOKS OFFICIAL-ENOUGH TO THE MEMBERS OF THIS GLORIOUS TIME-IMMEMORIAL CHIRCH TO FUCK UP AND MISS THE OPENING!

    IT’S A GOOD LAST-MOMENT, LAST-DITCH TRY AT DISRUPTING AS MANY SUCKERS AS THEY CAN FROM COMING TO THE EVENT.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Tony clarified that these e-mails are received mostly by Independent Scientologists, who are not welcome at the event anyways. So, it would have little to no impact as far as attendance. It just creates problems and is not very funny, even if it looks legit on first glance.

      • KJP in Portland

        I was hoping a few thousand members actually got the email. I didn’t see the clarification, I was too busy readin all the Lisa stuff and trying to figure out how many crippled people that chair contraption was going to injure. Well, another theory mythbusted…and away it goes!

  • chukicita

    TB Times put up a story half an hour ago about how the city of CW caved to the cult re: this weekend’s activities. And if they don’t behave, the city says they won’t issue permits for the other big events. *sigh* Anyone else asking for this kind of ramped-up service would be told to pound sand.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Unfortunately, when your coffers are as deep as Scientology’s you can get away with murder, rape, child abuse, slavery and city code ordinance violations.

  • KJP in Portland

    I hope after this weekend, the next time I have to look at this SUper Powers building will be when I watch fooring of the top getting dynamited, like the swastika on top of the rally grounds at Nuremburg in May, 1945.

    It’s too big a white elephant, as we’ve discussed some night prior, to make any use of, so DYNAMITE the damn thing and sell it on pay-per-view to the World.

    It’s gonna be a white elephant, because any month now, Daffy Duckage is going to take to the seas, as the chirch gets reamed in 2,000 legal battles and the chirch FINALLY loses its 503(c) exemption with the federal government!

    Let’s ROLL!

  • Candygram

    I just realized $cientology looks like My Little Pony coughed up a cult. Thanks to my 3yr old little guy’s fixation on that cartoon, I was finally able to figure out what the cult’s trappings remind me of.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Have you thought of enlisting the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to help fight the cult?

      • Casabeca

        Totally Awesome!

      • Candygram

        Hmmm… good idea. Or Strawberry Shortcake … or the Avengers… or …. ooooooo… Word Girl! I don’t think Word Girl would allow $cilon bastardization of language.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Alexa update for Nov. 13: *refresh for image*

    Tony: US rank #9,020 – down 122 from yesterday.
    Scientology: US rank #41,432 – up 672 from yesterday.

    Interesting side note: Tony has 7,2% of his visitors from Australia, and 6,9% from Switzerland.

    • KJP in Portland

      Yes, we do love our Aussie friends that post here! (dunno who’s from Schweiz)

      • DodoTheLaser

        “(dunno who’s from Schweiz)” – The psychs and the bankers.

        • KJP in Portland

          Yes Sir, you are probably right!

          • DodoTheLaser

            Lol

  • John P.

    Off topic but fun: One of my favorite bicycling bloggers had a little encounter with Scientology at a bike expo he attended in Philly the other day. Apparently, the expo was held near the Org in Philly, and they had a little table set up at the bike expo to combat drugs. Drugs in cycling? Who ever heard of such an outrage? Never mind…

    http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/11/i-went-to-philly-expo-and-heres-story.html

    • media_lush

      “Drugs in cycling? Who ever heard of such an outrage? “… as a frequent visitor to Amsterdam I would have to put that down as a delightful pleasure, especially in the summer. This is mainly due to the reverence cars give to the custom bike lines and such…. and the the fact it’s so bloody flat that you never need to get out of cruise mode. The main danger [as far as I’m concerned] is getting your tyres stuck in the tram lines when you go round a corner.

      A point that is hardly mentioned in cycling in different cities is that nearly all the bikes in Holland are the step through frame [ladies frame in Blighty] … in the UK the vast majority are cross frames [gentlemans], i.e. you have to lift your leg pretty high just to get on the saddle. I believe that single factor is pretty crucial in city cycle take-up. Cycling slow circles around Vondelpark on a summer eve followed by a a few cold beers in The Leidseplein are hard to beat anywhere in the world….. type thing.

      • KJP in Portland

        I love the short-skirted ladies on bikes in the hot months, sigh…

        • media_lush

          Amsterdam is one of my top 3 cities in the world…. half my uni house [Norwegians] ended up getting jobs there so I visited at least once a month for 3 years… after about my 4th visit I totally embraced ‘gezellig’ as a local…. something that really came to the fore on a Sunday evening when I missed my flight… it became such a pleasure that I changed my flight to the Monday ever since. Whilst partaking of the doobie was a big deal in the beginning we grew out of it pretty quickly [same as visits to the Red Light District].

          About the only thing that annoyed me about Amsterdam were the bloody high stairs…. and that’s it.

          • KJP in Portland

            The older apartments must have a lot of walkups for those 3,4,5 sory buildings, but oh, the beauty of Amsterdam. I plan on a long European vacation when I retire, like 3 months long. A week in Amsterdam minimum is on my bucket list. Many places in Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden that I need to see before I ‘drop my body’.

      • John P.

        I was referring to drugs in professional cycling, starting with Lance Armstrong and working down the list to have sullied the reputations and achievements of many giants in the sport since then. I have seen stats that the use of drugs is more prevalent in cycling than in any other sport. For someone who enjoys watching a great race, the pervasive sleaze in the sport has significantly dampened my enthusiasm.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Buried somewhere down there is a request for a shoop based on the image of Missy that was Tweeted today. So… I shooped.

    Darned thing though… I can’t recall which was the photo sent out by the official machine, and which is the candid shot of Missy welcoming guests to his seventh floor powder room…

    • KJP in Portland

      The pus of Scientology, indeed.

    • NOLAGirl

      BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I love it!!!

  • GlibWog

    I’m watching Ted Koppel’s Night Line ABC Youtube ABC Interview..Feb. 14the 1992

    ( I tried to copy and paste it.. sigh.. didn’t work for some reason ) So you have to Hearsay it..

    At the beginning he denies that he is the Head of Scn. but at 34:08 when he was reintroduced to the audience

    He admits that he is the Head… Interesting, huh?

    • DodoTheLaser

      Good catch, Glibby!

      A Conversation with David Miscavige – ABC News with Ted Koppel

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZSjVOXAb8U

      • GlibWog

        Hi sweetie pie.. I had watched this so many times..

        Actually I was over at JP blog and I saw a post where he stated and linked disconnection stories.. So I went there.. and at the bottom of page 1 on the WWP link was the interview..

        so I clicked on that link.. I’m still listening to it.. So I don’t know if the timing is the same as the one you posted..

        But I purposely listened to it again.. and yep.. on that link ( On 34:08 ) he agrees with Ted that he is the HEAD…

        So if it doesn’t come up at 34:08 on your link .. that is why.. Thanks Dodo..xoxo love Glibby

        • DodoTheLaser

          The timing is the same. Thank you! <3

          • GlibWog

            I was just going to tell you that it was the same.. Mine just finished and I checked yours..
            Yawnnnnnnnnnnn night darlin..

            I can’t believe I watched the whole thing..ugh, ugh.. Just to find out if he would ever say he was the head! Should be interesting to LAWYERS, EH?

            • DodoTheLaser

              Indeed! Sweet dreams.

            • KJP in Portland

              I need mine checked…wife keeps making excuses…grrrr!!!!

        • KJP in Portland

          Hope Judge Waldrip sees that loud and clear!

          • GlibWog

            yep.. night sweetie.. yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn

            • KJP in Portland

              (((hugs and xoxoxoxo’s)))

            • GlibWog

              awwwwwwww I can always use hugs and kisses KJP.. xo and hugs to you..

            • KJP in Portland

              Dammit, tell my ice-queen wife that!!! (she needs guidance!)

      • KJP in Portland

        32 year old, high school dropout punk (in ’92) as the ‘Ecclesiastical Leader’ of some pseudo-religion?

        Gimme a break (even in 2013)

        I think Jim Jones, David Koresh more and more all the time.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Apparently COB RTC had enough charisma for the 80’s and 90’s. Clearly no more.

          • KJP in Portland

            I just don’t get why all these sheeple worship him. He is like a bad Charlie Chaplin parody.

            • DodoTheLaser

              They don’t exactly worship him. They worship their own hopes.

            • Casabeca

              That is profound.

    • Charlotte

      I re-watched that a few months back and noticed the same thing. Ted managed to sneak that one out of him through persistence.

      The interview is a fascinating case study. I think we will be studying McSavage for years to come.

    • KJP in Portland

      They don’t lie very well do they? So when Sci goes bust, do all these high up muckity mucks become used car salesmen???

  • KJP in Portland

    I wish Signs of Insanity were on when I frequent here; I’d like to bake him a great big turd pie. He’s sure an attention whore.

  • KJP in Portland

    Anyone care to wager or hypothesize how much gold and cash Daffy Duckage has spirited away on the Flee Winds about now? In excess of $100 million USD would you think?

    • DodoTheLaser

      Perhaps Cayman Islands?
      The territory is a major world offshore financial center, located in the western Caribbean Sea.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_Islands

      $100 mil is for beggars.

      • KJP in Portland

        Maybe they could use a good, skilled beancounter like me? Maybe I could make $250k handling their not so clean money there?

        They can throw a few tens of thousands our way anytime, brother.

    • Robert Eckert

      On the Free Winds? Zero. That tub is not in good enough to flee very far.

  • KJP in Portland

    ANd…his Sea Orgers running to man the rails of the Freewinds!

  • DodoTheLaser

    NOTHING beats a picture of SP building, right before its opening, taken from FH,
    that somehow ends up being here for our viewing pleasure. Some security.

    • KJP in Portland

      This place (Bunker) is famous! It has powerz that even Daffy Dave doesn’t!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Funny thing is, most likely it’s wasn’t even security’s fault.

        Can’t blame them when you can’t trust your own contractors.
        Or even Clears and OT’s. Or anyone.

        • KJP in Portland

          Maybe further evidence that years of beans and rice affects vision acuity and they can’t see that well! The end is near, Davey Sprockett!

          • DodoTheLaser

            Very good point.

  • Zeeeeeemu

    Stupor Power opening at last? Surely not.

    http://meemsy.com/v/11536

    • DodoTheLaser

      “Pissing off to ‘another galaxy’ and leaving us with no workable Tech” line – takes a Grand Prize! ROFL!

  • 0tessa

    No DVD, no extra showings, the Scientology cult is getting more and more esoteric. Or secretive. Or afraid.
    Yes, I think Miscavige is very, very nervous.Things are not going so well and he knows it. All his tricks don’t work anymore like they use to do. Too much discontent.
    It could very well be his last performance. After that, like any ecclesiastical figure who is worn out, Hubbard e.g., he will go into seclusion.

    • DodoTheLaser

      He’s gonna need to release OT levels above VIII real soon to keep the con going for another few years.

      • KJP in Portland

        Looking at scientolipedia link above now. May be gone a bit. FB me if anything Earthshaking develops in the next 1/2 hr. Thx.

  • Exterrier

    As one who spent some time in the nineties at Celebrity Centre in Hollywood, and was curious of its origins, and wondered how it had gotten to that size considering the meager minded people who have been running it for the past couple of decades, I eagerly went to the site that Tony mentioned above, called Scientolipidia.org.
    It was very, very rewarding. The research and photos and history on Yvonne Gillham Jentzsch and her history with Scientology, the Sea org ships, Ron Hubbard and Heber, and her true role as the personality and imagination behind the Celebrity Centres is amazingly detailed. When I was there, and saw that it was basically being run by a true sociopathic personality named Pamela Lancaster Johnson, I used to ask the old timers there about when it was last good and fun for them in Scientology, and at the Center. They would simply get misty, almost to tears, and begin talking about a wonderful woman they still loved, called Yvonne. But there was no sign or record of her anywhere in the whole palatial complex, and you could not find out anything about her.
    This is an organization, I thought, with amnesia, (gee, that is not very “clear” is it?), that hides and forgets its history, and seems to hide the people who contributed in building it, in favor of creating a mythology around one man, who is dead. It was spooky, and always bugged me that there was no history of the place….now I have it.
    I could go on. Whoever this fellow is who has created Scientolopedia.org., and whatever his purpose, he has done a great deal of research and put it up on line. It will be useful to future writers on this subject, long after Dwarfenfeurer has done his perpwalk or bunk, and the whole thing is gone. Yvonne was a definite True Believer, but a truly talented and amazing personality, who was destroyed and then non existed by the cold nasty organization that is the CofS, and by Hubbard himself. It is a great tale of community building, which interests me, and of betrayal. Recommended that you visit it.

    • chukicita

      It not only hides people, it makes them disappear.

      http://www.xenu.net/archive/rtc/

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You do understand that this site is simply attempting to replace one false hagiography with another?

      • Exterrier

        DDD,
        Well, I was busy reading his history of Yvonne, which I was fascinated with. I can see that the owner of the site still has some allegiance to some aspects of Scientology, or at least some strong nostalgia for its past, or what he had hoped it would be. LRon comes off very badly in his history, so he is certainly not a kool aid guzzler in that respect.
        But I did not go way deep into his site. The photos and history that he posted look very thorough and filled in a lot of blanks for me. But feel free to expand on what you are saying about the hagiography. You mean about her? Or LRon? I’d be interested.
        What I took from what I read, I sort of integrated into other things I know, and have personally experienced. I don’t know all the dark side or down side of Yvonne, if that is what you are getting at. To the extent that she used LRon’s methods, and her dedication and fanaticism led her to do things that were illegal or deceptive, I’d say that she and any Scientologist were part of something that was destined to not end well. But someone was responsible for attracting all of those celebrities and bands that were at one time interested i the cult, and I can see that Yvonne was one who could do that. I think I also stumbled a site by Skip Press that contained a lot of celeb history and explanations. I felt like an archaeologist last night, as I explored all this.
        Same with Ray and Pam Kemp, who’s story might have appeared on that site, or their video taken at Mayo’s AAC event in the eighties. Their story is real fascinating for historians of the church. The video was thirty years old, and I wonder if they are around now, and what they would say. They actually got a refund and pension from the church.

        But I can tell you have some interesting viewpoints on that site, Scientolipedia, or on those people discussed, and would of course, be interested in those when you have time. I am simply having a very good time, and a useful one, backtracking the mysteries as to how all of this came about, and who were the unchronicled or written off individuals who were used to build the organization decades ago.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Fuck, it’s Thursday!
    Anyone got good PR?

  • Jo

    I didn’t get the bow thing until Scientology London posted that the Super Powers building was like a spiritual gift to the world. So kind and generous to share it with the everyone, shame there’s no DVD. Two extra folk going to GAT 2 since Monday. So exciting!!!!

    • phronsie

      Gag!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Tomorrow has arrived?!? Who knew???

    • ThetaBara

      LOL, empty chairs!

  • Krew13

    I’d pay good money to see Mark Wahlberg kick Top Gun’s ass. Slappy’s BFF play acts being a badass. Wahlberg IS a badass.

    • KJP in Portland

      I’d like to see my old Navy Chief take a whack at him.

      • Nevermore

        Pffft, I’d happily leave the little git lying crying on the floor, believe me, and I’m just a girl! Well, OK, woman. My dad calls me his Amazon Warrior!

  • KJP in Portland

    Okay, I’ve been over to Scientolipedia and saw enough to get the idea of it all. Very Pro-Sci in IMHO. Maybe I’ll return if they have more critical content.

    • Robert Eckert

      Indie Scientologist, rather than Church Scientologist, if you care.

  • Nevermore

    Dunno about endocrine states, but that would leave my breakfast in a state of being projected against the nearest wall!

    Come on Tony, where’s the Oiliness Table?? Enquiring minds want to know!

  • Nevermore

    Incidentally, an online friend told me her $ciloon ENcounter tale the other day. She was job hunting, and applied for an admin job with them. Ended up being locked in a room for hours being pressured to sign one of their contracts. Only got out by saying her flatmate would call the police if she didn’t return home at a specific time. Then another friend said she’d had a run in with an employee at the same Org (in England). One of them followed her home, and spent hours over the next few weeks sitting on the wall of the house across the road, just staring at her house. Yes, a fine {religion} indeed!

    • GlibWog

      Oh for God’s sake.. That is absolutely WHACK! And they wonder why they have such a horrible reputation.

  • mook

    considering that Lisa Marie’s mom Priscilla hasn’t attended any cult events since 2011 and LM’s daughter Riley Keough since 2012, it’s safe to assume that she had a similar situation to that of her friend Leah Remini: instead of her family disconnecting from her, they left the cult.

  • Grandma_of_Four

    As a 70 year old STILL fan of Elvis and his music and that wonderful voice, I have from time to time read up on Lisa Marie and what has been going on in her life. To say I am quite relieved to know she has left Scientology behind, become quite a grown up, and is leading her life as a free willed adult is nothing but positive. It is also good to know her mother and daughter have also not attended cult events in a long time shows this family has made strides to return to normalcy…whatever normalcy is when you are related to Elvis! :-) Good for ALL of them to know they can make decisions of their own and not be controlled and live in fear of reprisal. Hoping that whatever family members remain will finally reach the understanding of control by this cult/

  • Meme Sosoui

    Hah! How could she be a stranger to darkness?

  • D.Moore

    Anyone that gives money to place like this have got to be a little insane, there is a difference in crazy as opposed to insane. Scientology would have to strap me down and lobotomize me before I’d even give them a second of my time or a cent of my hard earned money. Cults are for those that can’t think for themselves