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FORMER SCIENTOLOGY SPOKESMAN TOMMY DAVIS SUBPOENAED BY MONIQUE RATHBUN

Tommy_DavisThe Monique Rathbun harassment lawsuit against Scientology is really heating up, with a judge’s order yesterday that denied the church’s attempt to bounce Monique’s attorneys from the case and now, we’ve learned, former Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis is being dragged into the case to press him under oath about his years working with church leader David Miscavige.

Davis was served with a subpoena Saturday in Austin, and we expect that he’ll be deposed rather soon — at least before the next hearing date in the case, which is scheduled for October 18.

The son of actress Anne Archer, Davis was the handsome spokesman who became the face of Scientology from about 2006 to 2010, and made many memorable television appearances. But then, he seemed to vanish, and “What happened to Tommy Davis?” became one of the most frequent questions we were asked by readers and other journalists. We’ve answered that question in the past, but now, Tommy may find himself back in the spotlight, and in a very different role than during his days running interference for David Miscavige.

Let’s get right to why we think Davis is being pulled into this harassment lawsuit. Monique Rathbun is alleging that David Miscavige, as the leader of Scientology, has for the past four years directed a complex campaign of surveillance and harassment at her because she’s married to the man who used to be Miscavige’s top lieutenant in the church, Mark “Marty” Rathbun. But Miscavige and the Religious Technology Center (RTC) — the entity that he leads as its chairman of the board, hence his nickname, “COB” — filed “special appearances,” arguing that the Comal County, Texas court has no jurisdiction over them, and that they should be let out of the lawsuit.

Miscavige filed a declaration (and Warren McShane filed one for RTC), saying that he and RTC were only concerned with ecclesiastical matters, and that they had “conducted no activities” in the state of Texas. This, they argued, was compelling evidence why they didn’t belong as defendants in Monique’s lawsuit.

But Marty Rathbun filed an affidavit of his own, saying that for years, as Miscavige’s top lieutenant and an employee of RTC, he helped Miscavige run numerous operations in Texas. Marty, in other words, said that Miscavige had lied on his sworn declaration.

How could testimony from Tommy Davis help Monique prove that her husband is telling the truth, and that Miscavige and McShane lied when they said they conducted no activities in Texas?

We can think of a couple of ways Davis’s testimony could be key. For the first part, Marty Rathbun left Scientology in 2004, and Scientology’s lawyers made the point numerous times in court three weeks ago that Marty has no knowledge of internal church matters in the last nine years.

But Davis does. And he could testify to how much Miscavige obsessed over Marty Rathbun when Rathbun began blogging about Miscavige in 2009.

And then there’s Tommy’s own adventure in Texas in 2010.

We wrote about this when we did a two-part profile about John Brousseau, the last person to defect from Scientology’s International Base and then talk publicly about it.

In April 2010, Brousseau — who had once been L. Ron Hubbard’s driver and, for 16 years, David Miscavige’s brother-in-law — made his escape from Scientology’s International Base near Hemet, California, after spending 32 years as a member of the church’s elite inner “Sea Org.” He drove for days, eventually reaching Corpus Christi, Texas, where he checked into a motel. Marty Rathbun lived in a small town nearby, and they arranged to meet the next day. But the next morning, not yet 6 am, Brousseau left his motel room in search of a cup of coffee, and waiting for him outside his room was Tommy Davis and three other church executives who had been sent to track him down.

“JB, you bad boy,” Davis said.

Eventually, Brousseau was able to get away from the church team, and he met with Marty. He’s been happily out of the church ever since.

But that mission by Davis to track down Brousseau — part of what the church calls its “blow drill,” to track down church members who have defected, or “blown” in Scientology jargon — has become an interesting and contentious matter of litigation.

Was Tommy Davis sent to Texas by the RTC, and David Miscavige, to run down an escaping church employee?

Under oath, in a previous deposition, Tommy Davis said no.

Q: Did your supervisor tell you to go see him?

A: No, she did not.

Q: So, why did you go to Texas to see John?

A: Because he is a very good friend of mine.

Q: So no one sent you to see Mr. Brousseau?

A: No.

Q: And you were visiting him as part of your job duties for the Church of Scientology?

A: No, I was not.

Davis gave those responses in a deposition while he was still Scientology’s spokesman. It occurred in the lawsuit filed against the church by Marc and Claire Headley. That lawsuit was ultimately dismissed.

As we’ve pointed out before, someone very interesting answered the same question about what Tommy Davis was doing in Texas in a very different way.

And that was his boss, RTC’s Warren McShane.

When John Brousseau left Int Base, McShane called the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department, claiming that Brousseau had stolen Scientology property when he fled. (Brousseau told us he was very careful only to take with him his own personal property. He was not charged with a crime.)

And here’s what McShane told Riverside County deputies…

Mr. McShane summoned (4) church members/employees who know JB the best and sent them to Texas to attempt to contact him and perhaps persuade him to return to the facility in Hemet, CA. According to Mr. McShane the four dispatched employees were able to contact JB in the lobby of the Best Western motel on April 26 or 27th 2010. The group tried to persuade JB to return with them. JB retreated to his room and refused to come out or speak with the group.

Oops.

Now that he’s no longer a Sea Org member or Scientology’s spokesman, will Tommy Davis admit that Warren McShane sent him on a mission to Texas to track down John Brousseau and keep him from meeting with Scientology’s arch-enemy, Marty Rathbun?

The same Warren McShane, that is, who is on record as saying, under oath, that the RTC has conducted no activities in Texas?

Tommy Davis, in other words, is in a very interesting position here. We only wish we could be in the room as he’s questioned by Ray Jeffrey.

As for where Tommy’s been recently, as we’ve reported before, we think it was some time early in 2011 that, for whatever reason, David Miscavige decided that he’d had enough of Tommy’s antics as Scientology’s mouthpiece, and Davis and his wife, Jessica Feshbach, left the Sea Org.

We’ve speculated in the past that what might have been Tommy’s undoing was his bungling of the February 2011 Lawrence Wright New Yorker profile of Paul Haggis, “The Apostate,” which later turned into Wright’s excellent book, Going Clear. (Wright demolished Tommy’s statements about L. Ron Hubbard’s war record.)

And now we think there’s evidence that helps nail down just when Miscavige threw a tantrum and turned on his two shiny flacks. The sharp researchers over at WhyWeProtest.net noticed that on March 30, 2011, the Church of Scientology International (CSI) registered the website domain “Whoistommydavis.com.” On the same day, “WhoisJessicaFeshbach.com” was also registered.

That URL format is familiar to our readers, who know that many websites the church operates anonymously to smear its critics use names like WhoisMartyRathbun or WhoisPaulHaggis.

It’s hard not to conclude that at the end of March, 2011, Miscavige had decided to turn Tommy and Jessica into non-persons, and his intimidation division — the Office of Special Affairs — was already anticipating that they might have to set up smear sites. (While Scientology still maintains that it doesn’t run the anonymous attack sites, spokeswoman Karin Pouw has now admitted multiple times that the church supplies information to the smear sites, a distinction that doesn’t really save the church from itself.)

As for Tommy and Jessica, they moved to Austin, and Jessica got a job selling real estate. Tommy landed a plum position with one of the largest real estate funds in the country, a company that buys entire housing tracts at a time, not individual houses. When he did so, he got a fancy title and started calling himself by a slightly different name…

 
ThomasDavis

 
But now his LinkedIn profile shows a slightly more modest-sounding job position, and he’s now reverted to the name we know so well…

 
TommyDavisLinkedIn

 
Well, whatever he’s calling himself, we trust his deposition will be a fascinating one.

 
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SCIENTOLOGY FILES DESPERATE-SOUNDING BRIEF ON THE EVE OF TAMPA MINI-TRIAL

Tomorrow, an evidentiary hearing is scheduled to happen in the Luis and Rocio Garcia federal fraud lawsuit against the Church of Scientology, but at the last minute Scientology’s attorneys have filed a motion to compel, asking that the hearing be moved to another day because attorneys for the Garcias haven’t complied with a court order to produce evidence.

The hearing’s purpose is to decide if Ted Babbitt and Ron Weil — the Garcias’ attorneys — acted improperly by employing another attorney, Robert Johnson, to help them recruit additional plaintiffs for the lawsuit. Johnson was once an attorney for Scientology, and the church says that’s a breach of ethics and has asked the court to disqualify Babbitt and Weil for using Johnson. After an evidentiary hearing was set in the matter, the church subpoenaed the Garcia legal team, but Babbitt objected that the subpoenas were way too broad. Magistrate Judge Thomas McCoun III agreed, in part, with Babbitt, and set limits on what the Garcia side would have to turn over. But now Scientology is saying that it still didn’t get what it was entitled to, and on the eve of the hearing, it’s complaining about it.

We asked a member of our legal team to look over the document and interpret it for us. And that analysis is not very sanguine.

The church argues that Babbitt and the others have failed to comply with the court’s September 13 order. In that order, the court ordered that privilege logs and certain documents be provided to the church by September 27.

It is not clear exactly what the church is claiming was not provided. It says privilege logs were provided but that they are “woefully lacking.” The church seems fixated on former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder, and believes that privilege logs, detailed time sheets, as well as financial agreements, should have been provided. The problem is, the church’s claim about what Rinder should have provided ignores the court’s conclusions in its order. In the order, the court stated that Rinder was acting as a consultant and “bird dogging” for new clients; that little of what Rinder did, or his records, had anything to do with this case, and that even though the church claimed Rinder was disclosing internal confidential information he learned while with the church, there are no confidentiality agreements that the church has put in the record. The court also said the church’s demands were too broad.

But the church argues that it is “not credible” that the Rinder privilege logs do not contain “a thread of the privileged information and knowledge that Rinder obtained during his 25 years of service as head of legal affairs within the church.” The church also argues that Rinder’s time sheets are not detailed enough.

In a very puzzling sentence, the church, apparently lamenting the absence of such evidence, states that “two hours spent discussing church internal strategies and practices” are more important than “a five minute conversation.” Not only is this silly (the church apparently hopes the court will be dumb enough to believe that the church’s speculation about a Rinder conversation makes it a reality), it also ignores the language of the order regarding Rinder. The church wants Rinder held to an attorney’s standard, but the court said he is a consultant and he has little to do with the case. Since most of the disqualification effort hinges on Rinder, the church can’t afford to let him go. (It had hoped that Rathbun could be used, but the court made short work of that hope.) Therefore, ironically, the church ignores the majority of the order in its efforts to get the court to agree that Babbitt is in noncompliance with the order. The church wants Rinder (an ex-employee, not an attorney) treated as an attorney, and then it wants it shown that Rinder gave attorney-client privileged information to Babbitt. There is nothing backing these wishes, it’s all smoke. In fact, the church’s motion is based almost entirely on wishes, hopes, and desperation, and it is written as if the September 13 order didn’t exist. In short, the church is screaming that it still hasn’t been given any Rinder smoking guns, it is sure these smoking guns exist, that Babbitt is violating the court’s order by not giving the church smoking guns, and until it is given these smoking guns, it wants a continuance.

Based on the very short responses Babbitt gives the church in the attached emails (including a refusal to agree to a continuance), I think Babbitt knows the church is desperate. The hearing is approaching and it doesn’t have enough to make its case. All of the whining, finger pointing, and allegations about Rinder are simply indications that it doesn’t have much to prove its disqualification theories. The court told it that Rinder was a consultant, not an attorney, that his records had little to do with the case, that there was no confidentiality agreement in the record, and that the church had to focus on issues related to the case, and not make broad demands. Nonetheless, the church seems to ignore all of this, and instead continues to obsess about Rinder.

 
Here’s the motion from the church itself. We’ll try to find out this morning if the Thursday hearing is going to be moved or not.

 

Garcia vs Scientology: Defendant Motion to Compel re Evidentiary Hearing

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on October 2, 2013 at 07:00

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  • Jgg2012

    Wait–they don’t have jurisdiction over Tommy Davis. Oh, his body is in Texas, but his Thetan exteriorized and is in the Van Allen Belt. There is no basis in Texas law for jurisdiction over an out of state Thetan. None.

  • Krew13
    • Moorwalker

      Shh, this is OTVII-related. People will die of diarrhea if they hear about it before they’re ready.

      • Jon Hendry

        That’s what the plug is for.

    • ThetaBara

      It talks, too. Or at least posts on the Bunker!

  • DamOTclese2

    QUESTION: Tommy Davis committed perjury previously, it is easily proven though one would need to convince a Judge of that fact. So why couldn’t Tommy Davis adopt his 5th Amendment right to refuse to speak least he incriminate himself, specifically informing the Judge that he can not speak due to the fact that speaking truthfully now would prove his previous perjury, and that lying now would again be perjury?

    Can he cop the 5th?

    • Eclipse-girl

      I think that is only allowed in criminal cases. Monique’s case is a civil matter

      • Jgg2012

        The previous statements were not under oath, so he would not be admitting perjury. His problem is that his statements and those of other people all contradict, discrediting Co$ (in the Factnet case of ’95, McShane admitted that the Zenu story was true; Davis, in news interviews, has said it was a distortion).

        • Robert Eckert

          His deposition in the Headley case was under oath.

      • Jgg2012

        It can be asserted in any type of case. If Davis did lie, however, he will inform his lawyer, who probably will instruct him not to answer, or instruct him to give an explanation. Taking the 5th is a BIG red flag–Jeffrey may call the FBI and say “hey guys, I think we have a RICO operation here”.
        Better to simply have Davis and McShane appear to “remember” facts differently–discredits Co$, but a prosecutor can’t tell which one told the lie.
        You do raise a good point and Jeffrey would be wise to focus on it.

  • Nash Anony

    Wait, if Tommy is in Santa Monica is Jessica there as well? Her linkin page still has her in Austin.

  • GlibWog

    OMG I am waiting for Davis to scream at Jeffrey
    ” YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FUCKIN RANK TO ASK ME THESE QUESTIONS..”

    MOOOOOOOOmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy you promised..

  • monkeyknickers

    Well, I had a lovely lunch with two Bunkerites (Michael and Kitz) yesterday, and I voiced this sentiment, which I shall paraphrase:

    THEY LOOK LIKE STUPID, USELESS DICKS.

    They’re laughable!! How can ANY judge or lawyer take these cats seriously?I mean, it’s surreal. Why can’t someone just say – oh hi! You’re completely full of shit and look like an idiot, so go home and play with your billion dollars ’til it runs out and stop bothering people and wasting MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars swamping our legal system with absolute fucking nonsense.

    I understand that there needs to be check points and formalized procedures in government, but sometimes I wish that you could just tell the truth without all the window dressing and save everybody a whole bunch of time they could spend on real life problems.

    Oh PS! Now there are physical witnesses to the fact that I’m this weird and annoying in person.

    And PS PS! I just realized that the only nuts I like begin with the letter P. I’m still processing that one, but I think the realization MIGHT have the power to bring world peace. I’ll check. :)

    • Sherbet

      Off topic, but you started it, ‘knickers. Did you ever see “Best In Show,” particularly the scene where the country boy (played by Christopher Guest) is reciting the names of all the nuts he can think of? It always makes me howl.

      • monkeyknickers

        Yes I did. It is a FANTASTIC moment. It puts you in a laugh trance. :)

        • Casabeca

          Oooh, now I want lunch and a laugh trance!

      • Captain Howdy
        • Sherbet

          Oh, gosh, Howdy, THANK YOU! I love the honky-tonkin’ song, too.

      • WhereIsSHE

        Cashew nuts… Pistachio nuts…… pause… RED Pistachio nuts…. LOL!

        I don’t know if that’s an actual quote, probably not, but it’s close enough.

        I f-ing LOVE that entire movie!!

        “Where’s the BUSY BEE??!”

        Buck Laughlin: “Now tell me, which one of these dogs would you want to have as your wide receiver on your football team?”

        Scott Donlan: “What Shih Tzus need rescuing anyway? You don’t see Shih Tzus straggling around the streets in an old coat “help, alms for the poor”.”

    • Missionary Kid

      Oops, I replied to Sherbet below, instead of to you.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Yes. A great lunch was had. Sorry no pix so STFU! *Kidding*. And monkeyknickers can attest that I look like my picture.

      Monkeyknickers, please, You Are NOT annoying. You are priceless. Both Kitz and I have a vast appreciation of the weird. Connoisseurs even. Well, half-vast, anyway.

      Direct, forceful expression of true feelings is appreciated. I however maybe add a modifier. (Inside joke).

      • aquaclara

        For all three of you, this had to be a very funny lunch. Oh, and extra points for coining “half-vast”.

        • Kitz

          It was a grand time! I even behaved myself (BE SHOCKED!!!!!)

          Half-vast?? *Snerk*

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        So, basically Michael…….You just called Monkey weird?

        PRICELESS!!!!

      • monkeyknickers

        well . . . I’m delighted! Weird IS good, but you can’t account for tastes. :)

        Modify at will my man. :)

        • Kitz

          Nope, you are not annoying at all, and weird is the best. Hells, I was the one who showed up covered in paint and caulking. 😛

          Michael is correct, you are priceless and true feelings are very good!

          • monkeyknickers

            Awwwwwwwwww, thanks honey. But just wait until I bother you incessantly to help me sort out what my rocks are. You might just change your mind. :)

            • Kitz

              LOL! Highly unlikely… Michael will be glad to get a break from having to listen to me go on about rocks and how they are formed. 😉

      • q-bird

        half-vast – slayed me……………… hahahahahaha!

    • phronsie

      Ya don’t like Prazilian Nuts? What about Pacadamian nuts? I love ’em. :) You can keep the Palnuts, though, b/c they are too bitter!

      • monkeyknickers

        HAHAHHAHA!

        And I’m with you on the Palnuts – just yuck. And it so depresses me when they show up in cookies – and god forbid . . . ice cream.

        It’s plain we have a common interest in only the nuts that are good. :)

        Brazil nuts brings to mind a pretty interesting story involving my grandmother that I’ll save for another time, but those damn nuts are forever in my memory.

  • GoofusMcFloof

    Now, I’ve never met the man (Thomas Davis) and I can’t predict what he will do after his having only so recently left the full-time brain sous-vide of Scifientology. But I’m sure he reads. He watches TV. He’s following this stuff. He can’t help it. He was Mr. Media, the public face. This used to be his job.

    His Mom, his Dad, lawyers (except those retained by Scifientology), even his own wife will tell Davis not to lie in the Rathbun depo. He must tacitly admit, no matter the consequences, to having perjured in the past by not committing perjury now. He would be seen to have “come to his senses*” about the cult and its doings [cue the Davis-Feshbach best-selling, tell-all confessional]. If he commits perjury now, the wreckage of the Sci-tanic will drag him down, no matter his privileged upbringing. Writing’s on the wall.

    *a funny saying, huh? Come to your senses? Realizing that what you see and what you hear don’t jibe and, suddenly, sight and hearing snap back?

    • WhereIsSHE

      His MOTHER is following the ENTHETA of the Rathbun lawsuit??
      You have got to be kidding me.
      And she would tell him to “tell the truth” if that meant hurting her precious “church” and her “dear leader”???
      Now I think you are smoking some wacky tobacky!
      Love the fantasy of your post, but … I think it’s about as likely as as the fantasy of Dave Miscavige confessing to all of his ACTUAL CRIMES (which would be near impossible, because there are just too many, and we only have so long on the planet).

      • Jgg2012

        His mother once referred to Scientology as “such an ethical organization”.

      • 1subgenius

        Looks like Disqus may have lost my post.
        It boiled down to this.
        1. Tommy ain’t smart enough to maintain a big lie. He couldn’t even handle the little ones.
        2. He has probable motivation to get back at DM, or at least not take a fall. He will be truthy.
        3. $5 donation to Tony for whoever is wrong. I won’t say loses, because it’s a win/win.

        4. I invite everyone else to step up and place yer bets on the same terms.
        5. You have to say whether this is legal or not.

        • BeverlyHillsBeer

          You’re on, 1sub. Tommy will obfuscate. He won’t spill the beans. He will protect his mom. You gonna LOSE LOSE LOSE !!! [ even though it is, as you pointed out, win/win ] And you have to keep track of the bets, so when the time comes in the distant future, you can pull out the posts and we can all settle the deal. See, sub?

          • 1subgenius

            It’s all in fun and on the honor system. I trust everyone here. From this distance.
            It’s not about protecting his mom at all.
            It’s about does he risk his neck to protect DM, who probably fucked him over royally.
            Tommy would never have such a chance for revenge. And all he has to do is tell the truth. I’m feeling good about this now. I’d even give odds but that would complicate things too much.
            BTW it’s not Tommy who has lied so far relative to this case, but McShame (sic).

    • Jgg2012

      I disagree–LRH said “the way to control a person is to lie to them”.

      • 1subgenius

        See my post and place yer bet.

        • Jgg2012

          odds vs. Anne Archer telling her son to hurt Scientology: 75 million to one.

          • 1subgenius

            That’s not the bet.

    • BeverlyHillsBeer

      He doesn’t have to ‘tacitly admit’ jack. If he’s deposed, he will obfuscate and dance dance dance. His mom is in the belly of the beast in Los Angeles, and drinks deep the kook-aid. And his wife’s family, fugeddaboudit. He won’t peep a word of truth.

      • 1subgenius

        Place yer bet.

    • 1subgenius

      Apparently another lost post, but I’m going with you on this one for some additional reasons.
      I’m starting a pool. Place yer bets. Who’s wrong makes a $5 donation to Tony.
      I’m in.

      • GoofusMcFloof

        I’m in for $25 if I’m right, and I’d like to hedge that with a $25 bet that I’m wrong.

        • 1subgenius

          That’s the spirit. It’s all a win/win.

      • Nevermore

        What are we betting on??

        • 1subgenius

          Whether Tommy will lie, or attempt to.
          Are ya in?

          • Nevermore

            Betting is the work of the Devil. Of course I am – my answer’s further up the page!

      • Snippy_X

        Tommy won’t be able to speak to any of their questions.

      • aboutandout

        Yes he will lie

    • SciWatcher

      Yeah, I agree with you too.

    • Suzy

      But won’t his mother disconnect from him if he comes clean at this point?

      • GoofusMcFloof

        Not if the Great DisConnector is gone. Who’s gonna make her?

  • Dirndl

    A few days away from the Bunker and i can’t keep up with all the news. Incredible! This is better than the Oktoberfest. My hat is off to you Mr. Ortega. And a late happy 1. birthday to all Bunkerländers – minus 1.

  • SandiCorrena

    Oh the Bunker times are divine!

  • Sunny Sands

    Tent Watchers’ Update Some fancy doors have appeared on Tent #2, and they have the cherry picker doing work in front. In the second pic, the red circle shows where 2 silver colored metal boxes have appeared next to baby tent in the back. Maybe they will house something electrical. Sorry for the skewing in the pics. In the lot next to the Ft. Harrison garage, there is still a lot of activity and digging.

    • SopranoAscends

      That’s where the chimney goes for Santa.

      • Sunny Sands

        ..

    • Narapoid

      Man, they want to know who is giving the updates, don’t they.

      • Sunny Sands

        Anyone can drive by and see for themselves. Franklin St. and Court St. are public roads.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          According to the Permit of OCt 1 which I posted around here somewhere, it is now official “The Tension Tent”. I like it.

          • Suzy

            No wonder things are so tense

    • Mark

      At a guess the electrical stuff that’ll probably go in those silver boxes would power the air-conditioning among other things. Thanks for all your sterling work, Sunny! I still prefer smaller tents, though:

    • nottrue

      Run a Giant praying mantis is eating the tent

  • Bradley Greenwood

    Wow! I was censored?! Time to drop off the comment radar, I suppose.

    • aquaclara

      really? where?

      • Bradley Greenwood

        A conversation I had here, early this morning.

        • Sunny Sands

          Sometimes it will hide earlier conversations. Click on your name and you will find your missing comment.

          • Bradley Greenwood

            Thanks Sunny :)

        • Karen715

          That happened to me one time in particular, when I was looking at responses to one of my posts. A whole side conversation disappeared. Refreshing didn’t work. Going back to the Bunker home page, then refreshing, did the trick.

    • Captain Howdy

      Disqus is totally fubared at the moment.

      • MO Mom

        Am I the only one who has Safari crash on their iPhone when they try to post? I had to wait til I got home to my laptop.

        • Observer

          No, it’s done that to me several times today, including the first time I attempted to reply to this comment.

    • Minion Gayle

      It’s Discus. I’m pretty sure Tony didn’t take offense at my comment about the Fort Harrison hotel.

      • Bradley Greenwood

        Discus deletes comments? I t was a whole thread!!!

        • Sunny Sands

          I’ve just had a comment deleted, too, Disqus is enturbulated.

          • Minion Gayle

            Mine didn’t even post. It just kept spinning and spinning and….

        • Robert Eckert

          It doesn’t actually delete them, just misplaces them for a while. On days like this, it feels like we all do sometimes when we finally find our keys and then forget where we wanted to go.

      • Bradley Greenwood

        There was no swearing, or anything. This is ironic!

        • Nevermore

          Feck!

          • Graham

            Arse!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Fock. We are no officially in Focktober.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    965 comments. 7029 up votes. 7.28393782 up votes per post average. Nyah Nyah Nyah….

    (feeling a bit quirky today)

    • Kitz

      This is different how? *ducks and runs for cover*

  • DamOTclese2

    “John Sweeney’s going to have an ejaculation that will reach from Moscow to New York.” —
    Espiando

    I just wanted to make sure that everyone in The Bunker saw that. Hopefully that killed >9000 keyboards with spewed coffee. :)

  • SopranoAscends

    I don’t believe in parenting this way, but the mom in me really wants to slap Tommy’s face every time I see his smirking grin.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Take some solace in knowing that Slappy Miscavige and Tom Cruise have already whacked Tommy boy around plenty already.

      But I feel ya….something about his mug makes me want to slap him too.

      • Noni Mause

        I know! He’s super smackable.

      • Sarah James

        I abhor violence, but I also would be so inclined.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Slap his mom while you’re at it..

  • 1subgenius

    In case it gets overlooked, I’ve started a Tommy Davis truthy pool/bet thingy.
    State whether you think he will lie or try to, or not. Yes or no only in reply to this post, You can state your case elsewhere.
    If you are wrong, you make a $5 donation to Tony.
    There are no losers, it’s a win/win.

    • Nevermore

      Yes.

    • SciWatcher

      No.

    • Kimberly Gooden Bumpas

      Yes he will lie. Leopard can’t change its spots. Sorry Tommy, I love you, I just don’t have any faith in you to do the right thing.

    • Karen715

      Yes, he will at least try.

    • Narapoid

      Does that include an “Acceptable truth”?

      • 1subgenius

        We’re not going to gray this up. We would never agree on what you, or any of us mean by that, or whether it occurred,
        I believe there will be a consensus about it, and if not, a tie will be declared (by me) and everyone will have the pleasure of making a donation. That seems fair.
        Yes, or No?

        • Narapoid

          Yes, I do not think he can be truthful.

          He is locked in and his actions are going to bite back, and I don’t think any threat for charges of perjury will deter.

    • Richard Grant

      Yes.

      BUT … I think he will try not to lie in an overt way that he can easily get nailed for. I think he’ll go in with some shore story that is not completely fabricated, but that is misleading and incomplete. “I did not work for David Miscavige.” He will try to maintain this tricky balance — protecting both himself and the church — but it won’t quite work. He has a lifetime of experience and training in making shit up, and almost no experience in speaking truthfully. Like “love”, the concept of unconditional honesty seems strangely absent in the COS thought-world.

      • 1subgenius

        Most liars do this. But your but is noted.
        All future buts will result in an automatic donation by the butter.
        Don’t yell at me I didn’t make the rules. Oh wait, yes I did.

    • SandiCorrena

      No….because I still believe in fairytales

      • Ruby

        haha!

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        Well no, Ms. Sandi C., with all due respect, it’s more like you may still believe in
        The Marcabian Confederation; in ‘implant stations’ on Venus and Mars;
        in that dang locomotive, which almost hit lumbering Lafayette Ronald, as
        he was messing around on Venus, which isn’t by the way as toxic and hot as all the
        NASA scientists say, Ronald almost got hit by a freight train on Venus, for Xemu’s sake.

        Fairytales are much more believable than Ronald’s lectures.

    • Minion Gayle

      Yes. I think he’ll lie.

    • Sandy

      Yes, he’ll lie

    • Krista

      No, he won’t lie.
      (I know it’s wishful thinking, but a girl can dream, right?)

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        No- not in this instance, with all due respect, Ms K,
        that is dreaming on a level of like there are 75 other planets in
        this sector of the Galaxy; that each had an average overpopulation of
        176 Billion individuals; that 170+ Billion x 75 planets, say 12 Trillion individuals were
        transported to Earth (T G ack )…

        eh?

    • noseinabk

      Yes.

    • Captain Howdy

      He won’t tell what we consider to be the truth, but it will be true for him.

      • 1subgenius

        That’s a yes.

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        Well, that’s for sure, Cap’n — he will be drinking his own kool-aid.

    • phronsie

      Yes, he will lie; it’s his “religion” to lie. Bastard cult.

    • Ruby

      He will tell “an acceptable truth”
      oops…I just saw the comment like this below… :)

    • Zana

      Yes. He will lie. His mom is a slave acting like a princess. He’ll do it for mom. He’s a coward. Even so… he has the debacle that he has already perjured himself in court. Don’t know how that will all go down… but if the McShane call to Riverside Police can be put into the mix he will be stirred up in doo-doo soup.

      This gets more and more interesting every day.

    • BeverlyHillsBeer

      Yes he lies

    • Beatrice Garnett

      No – he will tell the truth (as I want to believe that even the most obnoxious liars can redeem themselves – I live in hope)

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        I’m sorry, BG, and truthfully with all due respect–
        you living in phantasy, BG, not in hope.
        (In this instance only)

    • Noni Mause

      Yes, he will lie like the wind!

    • deselby

      Yes. Lying liar will….LIE.

      [But, I doubt he will get the opportunity. Scientology can easily end this thing and silence Rathbun forever in the process.]

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        Money talks. Even to Rathbun I assume, if the amount is gigantic enough. Davey and controllers back in the day dropped David Mayo such a massive amount that you can hardly find anything of substance on Mayo since the settlement.

    • aquaclara

      Yes. It’s money vs conscience with him. I have to side with money.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Yes, he will lie like a rug.

    • Markthehungarian

      He has too much going on in his life that is independent of “the tech” to risk NOT telling the truth. The boards I’ve read believe that Tommy Davis got his job through connections via his father, and that his job is with a non-Sciento firm. She, on the other hand, works in real estate and I haven’t read any guestimates about whether the real estate company is non-Sciento or not.

      I have no doubt that Tommy Davis is out of practice when it comes to lying. When he was main Spokesperson, he was on top of his game, and was lying on a daily, or hourly basis. He was also attuned to the pressure cooker that surrounds David Miscavige.

      But he’s not there anymore and hasn’t been for a while. He has surely decompressed, if ever so little, but is definitely not in shape when it comes to barefaced lying or dealing with COB.

      So if he lies, he will fuck up. He will get caught out. That’s a guarantee. He’s an out-of-practiced amateur going up against a seasoned, and active, professional. He has NO chance of getting away with anything in court and not getting owned for it.

      So if he lies, he will get caught. And judges don’t look kindly on perjurers. And those found guilty of perjury probably are less attractive employees. So if he lies, he gets fired. And if he gets fired, how many more favours can his dad call in when it comes to his son?

      I don’t think Tommy Davis can risk lying. And I don’t think he would personally gain by doing so (unless Miscavige promises to pay him shit-tons of money to lie), so I can’t see Tommy Davis lying on the stand. And under oath.

      • Ruby

        What he said.
        I vote no.

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        At the same time, if he actually tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, it would be a huge attack on the Machiavellian Midget; he would have to admit he went to Texas to bring back J.B. on the orders of Dave Miscavige, Chair of Board of RTC. That’s for starters. That automatically gives the case a ‘win’ for Monique’s case against MacMidget, RTC and Co$. Going **that** far will not happen.

        Similarly, by telling the whole truth, he will be throwing himself under the bus, and take the fall for the entire loss of the case against CSI-Davey’s RTC-Co$. Plus, he will be disconnected from his mother, all his $cielon family and friends, his in-laws the Fesbach $cielon whales. All $cielon businesses and businessmen and business-women.

        The truth is not going to happen, from Tommy Thomas Davis. No way.

      • NeverIn

        I’m having to think about this.

        If Tommy’s lying was basically a matter of parroting DM, and he was honest off camera and in private, then I can believe he’d do the logical thing and come clean.

        But if got into the habit like it seems a lot of the execs did, then logic won’t matter. I’ve noticed among acquintances (mostly ex-friends-in-law) that chronic lying is a VERY hard habit to break. It’s called pathological for a reason.

        And of course if he’s still loyal no way is he coming clean.

        But as for his new life, this is a two-sided coin. If he toes the line, he becomes just another detail in the story and it goes away, which is probably what his current and future bosses will want. But if he spills, it’s big news. Sure, he’ll have our support, but will that mean much to him? Will he get enough general public adoration to make it worth the attention?

        Here’s my advice, FWIW, Tommy:

        Tell the truth. Everything good, bad, or ugly, everywhere, all the time. Be humble. Ask the anti CoS community for help. THIS is modern PR.

      • 1subgenius

        All that, and the revenge factor against DM.
        I haven’t heard any reports that it was a pleasant parting.

    • Tomato Thetan

      He will lie.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I gotta go with a Yes here.

    • MO Mom
    • MissCandle

      He’ll take the Fifth.

      • 1subgenius

        Interesting.

  • Kimberly Gooden Bumpas

    I’m excited to see how this will play out. Tommy Davis has always been and always will be my favorite character on the Scientology reality show! Tommy I’ve missed you so much over the past three years!

    • Room 101

      Having him as their spokesperson was like hiring a crackhead to be a parole officer. I.e – Completely harmful and destructive but thoroughly entertaining and never a dull moment.

      • thatssotheta

        A+ analogy!

  • Cat Daddy
    • Narapoid

      Wow Cat, this is creeping me out the more I see it. This will be his face when asked a direct question.

    • Captain Howdy

      Found on WWP

    • MO Mom

      OK, that video glitch looks like a string of drool.

      • Cat Daddy

        LOL, you are too kind

  • Spiderpope

    This is a major news story for atheists. When he takes the stand we will finally have conclusive proof if there is a god or not. If there is, Tommy will immediately immolate upon swearing to tell the truth upon the Bible.

    • Missionary Kid

      Some states do not require swearing on a bible. (I don’t know how many, but I believe that there are some)

      • Krista

        I’m sure they require swearing on a bible in Texas.

        • Missionary Kid

          So, what do they do about atheists and believers in religions that don’t have the bible as their guide?

          • Nevermore

            Is there such a person in Texas?? 😉

            • Missionary Kid

              Yup, there are. They often are forced to keep their heads down if they live in rural areas, but there sure are.

            • Nevermore

              When I was there years ago, I declined many offers to go to church on Easter Sunday, and went to a Coptic Christian Church with the driver who’d been driving me around. He was from Cairo, so we’d been chatting about the city and Egypt in general. My work colleagues thought that was very odd. I wonder what they’d have said if they’d known I was a Pagan? Probably best I never know…

            • ze moo

              I am a reformed druid, we can pray to bushes.

            • Mooser

              I talk to the trees, but they don’t listen to me, and I talk to the stars, but they never hear me. The breeze hasn’t time to stop and hear what I say, and my wife sometimes ignores me completely.

            • kemist

              Plenty. Especially around Houston.

          • Spiderpope

            Oh i’ll swear on any fictional character they like, from Yahweh to Spider-man.

          • kemist

            I’ll swear on this.

          • Miss Tia

            i once took an oath in court on the Ohio Revised Code book…..

        • Suzy

          Or on a football

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        Can’t be Texas

      • ze moo

        You can swear on the Bible, Torah, or Koran. Or you can ‘affirm’ for atheists. I have no idea how pastapharians do it.

        • Missionary Kid

          The pasta of their choice.

        • kemist

          You have to talk like a pirate.

      • Robert Eckert

        Nowhere in the US is it required to swear on a Bible.

    • Captain Howdy

      They need to make him say ‘so help me Ron” with his hand on a copy of Dianetics.

      • sugarplumfairy

        They need to administer sodium pentothal.. Otherwise, just assume he’s lying..

        • Candygram

          Meh, I hear a few shots of whiskey works the same magic.

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        I love it when someone writes LOL and they actually cracked up out loud!!
        That’s this lol – a true howl, Captain H !!!

    • ze moo

      If Bill Clinton can testify and not go up in smoke, that question has been answered. Though I do like Howdy’s ‘so help me Ron’.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    sorry if already posted, but don’t have time to wade through hundreds of troll derails.

    Remember when it turned out that the story of Jessica dying from cancer was the reason given why she and Tommy were allowed to leave, which turned out to be shore story Digusting lie? According to BFG, it wasn’t Tommy or Jessica who made it up, it was Miscavige…. From ESMB post today:

    “Dave Miscavige himself started and forwarded the rumor. FACT.

    He said and I quote, “If Jessica did not have cancer, I would have Comm-Ev’d that bitch!” Oh OSA, report that up. His staff are going to play back the tape where he said that and shit their panties. OSA are going to look at the dispatches where he said that she had cancer and realize that everything they know is bullshit. Dave has been lying to them full-time. Yeah OSA, if anyone is going to jail, it is you stupid sheeple. You do verything he says. You are the buffer between him and jail.

    If Jessica & Tom were wondering who started the cancer rumor, they can thank Dave Miscavige. I know they were upset that the rumor had been started and wondered who had started it. Well Dave Miscavige did. FACT.
    He started it because no one would NOT want to work for him and clean up his messes. They must be dead or dying NOT to want to work directly for the big being known as Dave Miscavige.

    Don’t worry Tom & Jessica, the gift known as COB will keep on giving…

    You are gonna have to come clean if you want any of this to go away. You either throw him under the bus or you will be thrown under – I guarantee it.

    Until next time…
    BFG”

    Wow. Tommy. you are going to need expert legal advice and a lot of support and help from All factions and corners right now. I know how you can get it: Get a media conference going and spill the beans about Disconnection. You will instantly have thousands to offer you that support. Spill the other beans then in court, in a manner and method your attorney advises. Time is short. Think Fast.

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?29742-Jessica-Anne-Feshbach-%28Davis%29-now-a-realtor-in-Austin-Texas&p=854396&viewfull=1#post854396

    • 1subgenius

      Another reason I think Tommy will truth.
      Even without this story he has no motivation to protect DM.

      • Sunny Sands

        Maybe he will lie to stay on good terms with his mother, Anne “do I look brainwashed to you” Archer. If there is a substantial inheritance involved, that is another reason.

        • BeverlyHillsBeer

          And remember who his wife is– they will protect the Fesbach $ along with the Davis $ and obfuscate for eternity,

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        Well we have. 5 smackers on that 1sub, so get ready to send the Bunker a paypal chit.

      • Sarah James

        I want to hope for the best as well. This could be his chance to come clean. If he continues to lie for Miscavige, then he will face the consequences.

      • BeverlyHillsBeer

        1sub- you gonna need more than a dozen five Abes for the Bunker account. A win/win but better it comes outta your pocket than the 12 of us who are taking you to the cleaners.

        • 1subgenius

          I don’t know what that means, but to be clear, I’m not covering everyone’s bets.
          Whoever’s wrong donates $5.

          • BeverlyHillsBeer

            Oh. Dang.

            I thought that each one of use who beat you with Yes=he Lies, then you would pay their $5 to the Bunker!! Now that woulda been grand !!!

      • Candygram

        5 coins on tommy helping Dwarfenfuhrer throw everybody under the bus but him. And 2 on it not working out as the Big Me and MiniMe hope.

    • Room 101

      I think he’s going to stick to lying in court. I highly doubt he’ll cop to the obsession DM has over Marty. He’s going to have to answer to some contradicting facts, though, so it will be interesting to see if he breaks or gets caught flat-footed.

      • Nevermore

        This is probably why he’s apparently back in LA. He’s being ‘prepared’ for his big day. I could almost feel sorry for him.

        • Room 101

          Almost being the key word. Yeah, I’m sure he’s going to be put through the ringer with Church attorneys to rehearse every possible Q&A that might arise. He just needs to realize that he’s protecting the wrong people. It’s only making shit worse for him the longer he protracts the lies.

          • ReneeG

            Yes, but they have to decide on a strategy AND STICK TO IT. Is David Miscavige going to try and maintain the fiction that Warren McShane really is the power behind the decisions made by CSI, and thus has equal power to Miscavige? Are they going to prep Tommy to say that WARREN is the one who gave him his instructions to go to Texas? Is Warren going to be able to take public credit in a deposition for the “accomplishments” of the Church? If COBs claim that he is “only” the ecclesiastical leader in charge of religious trademarks and religious matters ONLY, then does WARREN get to take the credit for the straight up and vertical expansion?

            I want to read a deposition where Warren is asked for the record SPECIFICALLY what his accomplishments are as President of CSI. If he is not responsible for what the CSI has done, then the question would be– WHO IS?

            • Nevermore

              Miss Cabbage will have a list, in ascending order of importance, of those who are responsible for all the decisions, PIs, Squirrel Busters, everything. The only name not on it will be his own. He’ll just feed them to the shark one after the other. And I suspect Tommy will be his means of doing it, if only as a means of keeping his own name off the list!.

            • Room 101

              You make a valid point. They’re obviously in a pickle, but that’s what lying does – it’s a domino effect to an entire story. See, once you insert a lie as in a change of location, then you have to lie about the time of travel, then you have to lie about how you traveled, then you have to lie about the reason you traveled, et al., ad infinitum. The truth becomes a part of your past while a lie becomes a part of your future.

              As far as who’s going to take credit in this, I believe DM doesn’t care if the courts believe him to just be a “caretaker or overseer of tech”. DM will claim he’s a janitor to a court if it gets him off the hook. He just cares what his followers think of him and his followers won’t be apprised of this court case in any capacity.

              I think a point they’ll have a tough time arguing is the contradictory statements of Tommy Davis and Warren McShane when they went to Texas to get JB.

            • BeverlyHillsBeer

              That’s a major problem, yes.

            • Robert Eckert

              They CAN’T say that Warren McShane decided anything: he is RTC, not CSI. That would be conceding that Texas has jurisdiction over RTC. Davis has to say that nobody at all decided to send him to Texas: he just spontaneously had a whim that he needed to go see Brousseau.

            • BeverlyHillsBeer

              Zactly — he’ll say it was his idear to goto Texas.

            • ReneeG

              Gawd, I get so CONFUSED. Well, then, is Heber STILL head of CSI? Surely they can’t say that HEBER ordered this stuff?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Yes, Heber is still the head of CSI.
              Isn’t that just rich?

            • Robert Eckert

              We’re all rooting for Davey to pull Heber out of the Hole and put him on the stand to explain, with prisoner eye-glaze demeanor and a little of the old crazy he used to exhibit, that he alone is responsible.

          • Candygram

            Honest question here though: has Tommy Davis ever shown himself to be anything but a mini-me asshat? I think he’ll continue to lie. I almost think the Rathbun team is counting on it, and they’re counting on him being as bad at it as ever.

            • Room 101

              Yes, I believe he will most definitely lie, but it’s very thin ice as Marty Rathbun knows Miscavige and his relationship but than even he does – Ray Jeffrey will know every single question to ask.

        • Noni Mause

          They’ll do what they always do – lie, keep lying, then tell a bigger lie. That strategy has actually worked for them for years, why would they change now?

        • KJP in Portland

          He’s a PUNK. I’d pop a pickup load of popcorn if Davidoff Cornholeage threw him under the bus!

    • ze moo

      Tommy will know what to do. Co$ lawyers will fill him full of what ever crap they think they can pour in. Tommy, though has little reason to cooperate with DM. He may not have been the best PR guy the ‘church’ ever had, but he was loyal. His family have and can continue to protect him. He won’t be thrown under the bus. At this point, nobody needs to be under the bus (except Karin Prouw, damn all that bad press). What can DM hang over their heads? Cancel their certs and OT status? Send them back to pre-clear? At this point, I don’t think they would care about that. Hell, GAT2 is going send everybody back to the starting line again anyway.

      I suspect Tommy and Jessica liked the cancer story, it got them away from the clampire. They appear to have the ability to start a real life, I hope they relish it.

  • Nevermore

    I think some of you will appreciate this – hasten to add that I pinched it from someone else!

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    You know I was trying to figure out WHY all things Tommy Davis get us Bunkerite’s so giddy.
    And I think it is the fact that Tommy always delivers what we want.
    Tommy lies…we win. Tommy tells the truth…we win.
    I mean think about it……..No matter what he says, you know he is going to put his foot in it.
    It is what Tommy does.
    Tommy’s charm (if you can call it that), for me, has always been in the fact that he is the worst liar ever.
    And I don’t mean that he lied all the time…which of course he did.
    But I mean how absolutely EPIC BAD he was at it.
    Tommy always strikes me as a “wanna be bad guy”…who simply doesn’t have the right stuff.
    I bet he sucked his thumb till he was twenty.

    I just love this guy!

    • Room 101

      Well put! I met Tommy a couple times. He was basically trying to shit all over my life so it’s not like we were hanging out as buds. He’s got a very oily, almost rehearsed demeanor down to the very last detail, but you can tell he’s trying really hard to be whatever fuck he is.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        You know when I kinda got the real feel for Tommy was listening to that tape of him give info on the phone to Lou to “communicate” to Slappy about Sweeney.
        You know the….”I can drive him insane” schtick?
        What a pathetic jackass pretender.
        Seriously, it made me burst out laughing.
        And for shit sakes….Lawrence Wright almost making him cry still makes me cackle like a madwoman.

        • Noni Mause

          I don’t know that story! What happened?

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            I will try and link you to it in a few when I get home.

            • Noni Mause

              Thanks!

        • Interested

          Me too. What happened?

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Dang guys….I cant find the vid or the text right now. I will keep looking.

      • stateofcircle

        moar insider stories please :)

        • Room 101

          There was a time years ago a member of OSA caught feelings for me while on a trip and was very touchy and flirty. She ended up getting demoted for it. So that was my good deed.

      • Eclipse-girl

        Its as he he doesn’t know what or who he is and so he tries too hard. Its awkward.

        • Room 101

          Let’s call it for what it is: The guy has an inferiority complex and a lot of money from mom and dad. Add to that the fact that Scientology teaches you that you’re a god and better than any existence in the universe……that is a recipe for what Buddy in Elf as portrayed by Will Ferrell so eloquently describes as a “Cotton-headed Ninny Muggins.”

          Boom.

    • SandiCorrena

      I was just thinking earlier he always acted like a wannabe good fella!

    • Captain Howdy

      “refresh”

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Yay!
        This is why I love ya, Capt.

      • KJP in Portland

        Whatever pedigree this kid has, he looks like a punk; the same kind of punk that used to prey on the weaker ones in grade school. Defend him all you want (some of you), but this kid is a snot-nosed punk, who by my estimation, hasn’t made himself a self-made man, period, since attaining adulthood.

        And, Hi CH! Good to see ya. I’ve been on a slightly skewed schedule and missed when you’re on.

        • Captain Howdy

          Good to see you also. Hope you are feeling better.

          http://youtu.be/zjX1LpSow_g

        • BeverlyHillsBeer

          He’s a huge punk. Unfortunately for him and his manhood, his mother Ann, rejected her mother’s religion — Majorie Lord was a long-time Christian Scientist, First Church of Christ Scientists in Beverly Hills, who raised her daughter a Christian Scientist, which as Co$ does, rejects medical doctors and medicine in favor of ‘religious healing’, but purely on principles of spirituality, sans Hubbard’s Sci-Fi loonacy (and has the same poor record of actually healing anyone with an illness from tonsillitis to cancer, btw) — and took up $cientology.

          This forced a set of values and personality traits on Tommy, as a 2nd generation $cielon.

      • Drat

        For some reason I keep thinking “Body Thetans” everytime I see that BTN abbreviation.

        I think Tommy Davis is kind of cute, in an abusive sort of way.

        His lies were always the best.

        • KJP in Portland

          Well DRAT, time to change your paradigm! BTN has been here a looooooong time. She is one of our ‘Grande Dames’, and one of our greatest assets (MANY others here too…). She is intensely knowledgeable about THE Cult and adds wit, sarcasm and knowledge in just the right amounts. She’s a hoot, a doll, and one of the reasons I kept reading The Bunker when I first arrived!

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Thanks KJP. That was nice of you.
            I like that Drat sees my initials as Body Thetans. I kinda like to think I release at least one BT per every letter of each post out into the world of unsuspecting Sciloons.
            I figure I am personally responsible for about 40 pounds of them that are stuck to Kirstie Alley.

            • BeverlyHillsBeer

              You Go Girl !!!

          • Drat

            Thanks for the education 😉

    • SLIM

      Everytime I think of Tommy…..
      It reminds me of Nathan Thurm..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MNisZJyFI
      OOPS….Sorry for the DOUBLE BLAST…

    • SLIM

      Every time I think of Tommy-Boy…
      It reminds me of Nathan Thurm….

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MNisZJyFI

      • Captain Howdy

        Good one. SCTV ruled

        • SLIM

          Give me a “bouncy C”….
          One of my favorite characters….

    • NeverIn

      Yeah, there’s something about him. He just never seemed big enough for his suit, like the asshole preppie in a John Hughs movie who’s a total pussy underneath the Lacoste shirt. 

      Plus he personified that square peg/round hole sensation one gets so often seeing Scientologists reel off the bullshit. Cultivated smugness + desperate logic = CLANGING DISSONANCE.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        YES!!!! Nailed it.
        Tommy is trying to be James Spader’s character in Pretty In Pink.

        • NeverIn

          EXACTLY who I was picturing.

        • sugarplumfairy

          But he’s more like Spader’s creepy new character in The Blacklist.. “JB, you bad boy..” that’s just frking creepy..

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        There’s always a sense that they watch movies to find models of what they think is the right behavior. Miscavige was supposed to be positively giddy about the costumes in The Matrix…

    • Sandy

      Ya know. I dated a guy like him in college. Handsome, rich, full-of-himself. Who remembers the names of the guys they dated that many years ago? But, this guy was so horrid, so selfish & self-absorbed, I will never forget his name. Every time I see a pic of Tommy, I think of this asshole. *shiver*

  • ze moo

    While speculating what Tommy Davis and evil empire will do is fun, the Garcia suit has so much more capacity to screw with the CO$. A fraud conviction would open up the doors to flood of suits, perhaps leading to a mass class action suit. The dwarfenführer has spent the last 15 to 20 years sucking ‘donations’ from the clams and at this point, donations may the largest cash flow. Any thing that interrupts that cash flow is very serious, DM could actually be deposed (as in out of a job) if he messes that up.

    I don’t think he wants to go back to actually providing ‘services’ {auditing} for his pay. He seems to have killed that business off, that is why every one is going back to square one for GAT2. Sell that bridge a third time, will anybody be around for the 4th selling? .

    It’s almost 5 o’clock in the eastern US and another 1000 comment day. That’s straight up and vertical enough for me.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      We may have to get an overflow tent……………….

      • Espiando

        Or at the very least a large supply of adult diapers.

    • Sarah James

      Monique also has a strong case. The fact, Miscavige hounded her and her family speaks to his lack of character and will lead to more lawsuits against him.

    • Eclipse-girl

      As a never in, can you explain to me how you can go up the bridge without auditing?

      Why would anyone (who is sane) try and kill auditing? People were paying for a service. Was it because auditors actually earned some money?

      • ze moo

        You have to do auditing to get to clear and then some self auditing and lots of can holding to get higher. Spiritual rank is acquired that way. You can’t get to OT8 with out holding the cans. People put money in an escrow type account at the mOrg to fund present and future courses, which often (always) involve auditing. Until sometime in the 90’s the clams ‘earned’ their money that way. Auditors could make a good living in the 60’s and 70’s. Not so much anymore, lack of new meat and the exodus of members has cut into their end of the scam. Lron started the centralization of income in 81 with the now famous mission holders (franchise holders) conference where they were forced to sell back their franchises, excuse me Missions to the central church. Lron wanted that income.

        Then the IAS became the cash cow. You bought your ‘status’ with straight out donations. No service had to be delivered and you got a shiny trophy if you donated enough. This allowed the liltlest führer to cut back on staff (auditors and case supervisors) and to shift the work away from auditors who worked for the lower level missions and their cut of the auditing pie. More and more auditing is being done by an mOrg employee who makes 50 dollars a month {maybe}. The ideal org scam is just another way to cut the lower level churches out of the auditing pie.

        There do seem to be 2 tracks to ‘salvation’ and ‘status’ in the clampire these days. Give shitloads of money to the IAS and get a huge trophy and ‘up your status’ {no, Davey, up yours} or spend 1/2 million and years of study and auditing to earn your ‘ecclesiastical’ wings. As you can’t discuss your OT level or case with anyone, why spend money and time on it?

        I don’t mean to cut out auditing from the $cieno puzzle, but it does seem to be less important then ever.

        • KJP in Portland

          I couldn’t help noticing that picture on Sunday Funnies: The pic of the dimwit in the ‘superhero’ costume with the 2 Brit staffers cheering him on. Well, if you blow up the pic, the staffer on the left’s bottom teeth (2) had cavities or abscessed teeth, which goes to show how much dental care they can afford on $50.00 per month. Criminal-Ass CoB$ can’t even provide SciLOON dentists to care for these people properly. And yet, all these brainwashed staffers seem a-ok with it. As a ‘never-in’, I have severe troubles seeing how ANYONE would want a life like that. I had outstanding dental work done in the Navy. I have a 29 yr. old bridge that is STILL holding up!

          I like to peer into the minute details occasionally…prob from my many years as a beancounter :/

        • Eclipse-girl

          TY, and allow me ask a few more questions

          Forgive me for being thick, all Idle MOrgs are run by SO and only SO?

          I am aware of this status thing of being a “humanitarian” or whatever on your donor card. “buying status”
          Don’t most donors (whales) still do courses?

          are the courses or training easier than they were in the past? Or if you are whale or celeb, you get a pass on some stuff (remembering a story in Blown for Good, with Claire Headley and Tom Cruise)

  • Cat Daddy
  • sugarplumfairy

    Off topic a bit..

    Did Nancy Cartwright ever win an Emmy for playing Bart Simpson? I just listened to a CBS news(?) piece that the Simpsons would be killing off a character this season.. the only clue they gave was that the actor voicing the character had won an Emmy for it..

    • Suzy

      She won an Emmy for voice-over in 1992, but there are over 10 others who have won since 1992. It could be many characters.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Thx..

    • Drat

      I can’t see Bart being killed off. I can see his family joining a strange new-fangled cult and the shunning him because he doesn’t agree. Or vice-versa. Either way, he could be incommunido for quite a while, that way. And a point would have been made.

      • Sydjazz

        Simpsons did that already. The joy of sect. “We love the leader”

        • Drat

          They actually did the whole disconection thing?

      • Sydjazz

        I still don’t understand how nancy went throug with this episode. The guy playing the leader looks alot like lrh

        • Drat

          More cognitive dissonance 😉 Celebrities lead a charmed life.

          Haha! Is that Homer trying to worship Marge or run away?

    • Miss Tia

      BUT I read somewhere they were quick to point out the Emmy winner did other voices, so it’s not like a voice actor would lose their job. If NC had won an Emmy, wouldn’t that be at the Celeb Center? Remember when she donated $10 million and did that spot for CO$ in Bart’s voice?

      • Mooser

        “did that spot for CO$ in Bart’s voice?”

        Whoa! That’s a shocker, to me anyway. Didn’t know that. What happened?

        • Miss Tia

          She did some CO$ robocall? some kind of call for them in Bart’s voice and MG was NOT pleased AT ALL!!!! I can’t remember how many years ago that was. I have a strange habit of remembering celeb gossip, facts, figures, etc. Let me try to find something online about that…..

          • Douglas D. Douglas
            • Miss Tia

              I think we posted links at the same time! :)

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              We has the REAL powers!

            • Miss Tia

              Indeed we do!!

          • KJP in Portland

            Hi Miss Tia! (I’m in an extroverted and happy mood today) Good to see ya! I’m adjusting my awake hours now back to civilization…

            • Miss Tia

              Hi KJP!! My hours today aren’t civilized! :) What IS civilization? oooo, that sounds like a fun counter-CO$ Craigslist ad class title! 😉

              Hooray for extroverted and happy mood today!! YEAH! :-)

            • KJP in Portland

              (I’m biting my lip until Monday to say I GOT THE JOB!). No more newspaper managering to get by on during ungodly hours. Been a long ass 2 years. T’was my mid-life crisis!

            • Miss Tia

              AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! :)

        • Miss Tia

          Here’s an article on it but the youtube clip in the article is disabled but below i found the clip…..

          http://technorati.com/entertainment/glosslip/article/nancy-cartwright-in-hot-water-over-bart-simpson-scientology-robo-calls/

          here’s the clip on youtube….she switches from Bart to her voice…. http://youtu.be/LLyldQ9u0o4

        • Snippy_X

          What happened? She squandered $10 million dollars, that’s what. I don’t know about you, but I could live for 160 years on that kind of money.

      • Sydjazz

        Hank azaria does heaps moe, apu, chief wiggum, the mayor

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      My money is on Apu. Hank Azaria plays Apu, and has won three Primetime Emmy Awards. He won in 1998 for Apu, and in 2001 and 2003 for “Various Characters.” Azaria would also be able to continue on the show, as he also plays Moe, for which he was nominated in 2009.

  • Liz Anderson

    Tommy Davis … you can run but you can’t hide… whatcha gonna do when they come for you ….

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Sea Org veteran members who leave rely heavily on scientologists still in good standing as a major thread in their business networking. Their real world skills are few or outdated. Tommy and Jessica, of course, have their family connections and don’t have to worry about starving or a place to live. Still, I think Tommy and Jessica will have high interest in protecting their scientology resources as potential clients and KSW:
    “Keeping Scientology Whaling”

    I couldn’t help noticing an odd sale on Jessica’s realtor site. Most homes in this firm are in the $1Mil to $15 Milllion price range. I had to check to see why she would bother with this one sale of a mere $142,500. This is a rabbit hole, but it shows a picture of how it works in scientology’s web. And wouldn’t you know it…this tunnel ends with a Tom Cruise connection and big helping hand for Scientology, specifically Bridge Publications.

    http://www.wilsongoldrick.com/agent_listings.php?id=47

    Turns out the owner was none other than Jud Posner.
    6913 Doyal Dr, Austin, Texas Contracted 8/9/13 and sold on 8/13/13,. Now that’s a Quick & Short sale.
    Transaction Type: Purchase/Resale Arm’s Length Residential Transaction
    (Short sale? Interesting about this type of transaction being listed) Doc Type:: Vendor’s LIEN
    http://www.trulia.com/homes/Texas/Austin/sold/24974866-6913-Doyal-Dr-Austin-TX-78747

    Jud Posner was Norman Novitsky’s son in law. Norman was CEO of Nationwide Title which was involved in a scandal of robosigning allegations. His wife is Terry Novitsky. They were in the Sea Org in the late 70’s early 80’s and they and their grown children are all in a circle of friends … and high profile scientology IAS Patrons and Donors, all who have worked together and donated large sums.
    http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=69963

    This might explain why sale was listed as Arm’s Length transaction, quickly sold, etc., Just One Month later!

    “Church of Scientology International Chooses Alwan PRINT Standardizer”
    Tuesday, September 17, 2013 Press Manager: Jud Posner
    http://whattheythink.com/news/65401-church-scientology-international-chooses-alwan-print-standardizer/

    Also listed at that Austin, TX address was Gayle Lozier. Not sure if this means Jud divorced his wife, Cara. Gayle Used to live in Dunedin, FL. Oh, and her daughter works at Bridge. That was handy. And worked for Tom Cruise:

    “My greatest success story is my daughter, Shoshone! Not only did she graduate from the Delphi School in Sheridan, Oregon and work for Tom Cruise, but she is happily married, stable, safe and productive, working in L.A. with Bridge Publications”
    http://www.oursites.org/gaylelozier/success.htm

  • dagobarbz

    It sure would be nice if some of these cultie scum were sanctioned for committing perjury. Like TD might be poised to commit…

  • media_lush

    ever wondered how to install an engram into a lemon? ….. then wonder no more!

    • KJP in Portland

      ROFLMAO! How ’bout a kumquat?

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      You cannot make this shit up!

      Lemon Torture………….Only a Scientologist could make this go right!

      • KJP in Portland

        SPCF is hot on their trail!

    • kemist

      Perhaps they could try with this :

      • sugarplumfairy

        If he insists on torturing defenseless fruit and veggies, why not just bake it.. That’s gotta hurt.. but the end product will be delicious with a little sour cream and chives..

        • kemist

          I chose this particular potato because it can actually torture back if it gets the chance.

          Until it runs out of cake.

          • sugarplumfairy

            mmmmmmmm.. cake..

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            CAKE…

      • Snippy_X

        Of course, the potato would absorb the toxic radiation from the lemon.

    • BeverlyHillsBeer

      Just when you think you’ve seen nearly all the loonacy wrought from the world of Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, you see something like that.

    • Captain Howdy

      So some poor thetan got sold a lemon?

      • sugarplumfairy

        At least with a lemon he can make lemonade.. What’s he gonna do with a fake bridge to nothingness?

      • Sherbet

        When life hands you an engram, make lemon Kool-Aid?

    • Sydjazz

      Wouldn’t be the acid in the fruit. But why did it make them sick?

      • KJP in Portland

        Probably spiked by Elroy with lethal doses of niacin and LSD!

  • salsakitty

    Hah! I’m going to a fundraiser tomorrow night in Phoenix, and look at what one of the auction items is! An autographed picture of John Travolta, STARTING at $10!! I’ll take silent bids if any of you are interested.

    Green Living Magazine 3 Year Anniversary Party!

    03 Oct 2013 at 5:30 AM

    Stardust Building Supplies

    Complementary wine, beer, and appetizers. Served thanks to Sonoita
    Winery, Old World Brewery, and Picazzo’s Organic Italian Kitchen.

    Eclectic mix of silent auction
    items offered at fun low “buy-it-now” prices, proceeds supporting
    Stardust Non-Profit Building Supplies programs.

    You can win a 7 night stay at Caribbean Resorts $1,400-$2,800 value, starting bid $100!

    Also, fun stuff like an autographed John Travolta photo starting bid $10!

    Register at the link below:

    • Jgg2012

      Will Dede be there?

      • salsakitty

        I’m sorry I’m so terribly ignorant about most celebrities. Who is Dede?

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          DeDe is a bunker favorite!
          She is a celebrity to us 😉

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bjzyZlhDok

          • i-Betty

            Salsakitty, you will love Dede. She’s very special to us 😀

            • KJP in Portland

              ‘Debbie’ is another ‘fave’…maybe she’ll be around for stats tomorrow!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              We are also very fond of this. This is a REAL video, produced by the loons in the Valley Org.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx8_ahakrSI

            • salsakitty

              Is this supposed to be a parody? Or is it serious?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              It. Is. REAL.

              It is intended to be hilarious.

            • salsakitty

              Oh lord. I suppose with all that isolation they endure their conception of what is hilarious must atrophy.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Made me laugh!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              From the same giddy folks who brought us this internet sensation:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ2MIqc-8kI

              (And for the regulars, it’s the Valley Doors” video. It just never gets old…)

            • salsakitty

              Wow. Just wow. You would think Tom Cruise would think he’s just too big a badass to be a part of a “religion” that puts out hokey, cringe-worthy stuff like that. I suppose he must not be exposed to these things much, though.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Yes, Tom Cruise prefers a far more subtle form of comedy…

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2_rZIgrQI

              (This was not intended to be viewed as humorous. It was done for a very special presentation, when Cruise was given a medal the size of a soup bowl at a big event.)

            • salsakitty

              I’ve actually seen that one! I LOVED the Jerry O’Connell parody, too. I wonder if Jerry did it because his wife, Rebecca, was part of the group of friends of Trey Parker and Matt Stone’s that Scientology “researched”? I pretty much read everything I could get my hands on regarding Tom Cruise and Scientology when I initially started digging. He either has to be incredibly ignorant and ill-informed or one cruel bastard.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Ah, I had the link to Jerry’s video all loaded up. BUT…

              (We are all in the next post now, gleefully hashing over the new news. Here’s a chance to get in on a thread from the BEGINNING! Just refresh, and click on the new story. See you in the comments!)

            • salsakitty

              I see that! Yaaaaay! Go Leah! Definitely see Jerry’s video. It’s hysterical (especially when he copies TC’s laugh).

            • KJP in Portland

              Is there anything those people DON’T do for money???

            • Nevermore

              Prostitution? Even that, I suspect, wouldn’t be beyond them. Poor bastards.

          • salsakitty

            Oh…my…freakin’…god. That’s some of the lamest, most hysterical stuff I’ve ever seen. I don’t know too terribly much about Scientology, so pardon the naive questions. Just surfed into it while I was doing some research on Kaballah, and was STUPEFIED when I discovered what a house of horrors it was. My husband used to sell ad space to the Scientology office here in Phoenix, and he said it was nearly empty and almost impossible to get out the door once you’re in.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Great to have you here. Just remember: If you can’t say something nice, you’ve come to the right place!

            • KJP in Portland

              Well DDD, mostly true. One SOB MF got his just desserts! (courtesy of our proprietor)

            • salsakitty

              Thank you! You all seem like such a lovely bunch. Those of you that survived and prospered–I can’t even imagine how much tenacity and spirit you must have. I read the lovely post Tony made regarding Ziontologist, and even though I’ve only been lurking a short while, I was very moved.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Welcome…..You will find out all kinds of interesting nuggets here. I have been here what seems like forever now and I still drop my jaw at something at least once a week.

            • KJP in Portland

              I’m sure at some of the stewpid things I post! :))

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              LOL, rarely,,,,Ok, maybe once……when you thought I was hot when you saw my one AV….and it was really Annie Broeker (RIP Annie).

            • KJP in Portland

              :(( lol! Hell, I didn’t know…it looked like from my generation. I’m still working on getting the newbie bugs out. BUT, thanks to everyone here, I can damn near debate a sciloon now!

            • KJP in Portland

              Oh dear, I just read about her. RIP poor Annie :( Only 4 years apart from me :(

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              No naive questions here! btw, how long ago was that when your hubby was inside and said nearly empty? Also, good for him in getting out. When the regges haven’t eaten for too long, they transform into mutants. Not pretty.

            • salsakitty

              It was probably about 10 years ago. I’ve driven by the new one recently, and it looked deserted, too.

            • Douglas D. Douglas
            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I don’t believe the hubby was ever “in.” He just rented space to the space-cases and noted they seldom filled the space.

            • salsakitty

              Yes, DDD is right. He was never “in”. Actually they contacted him about buying a HUGE ad space in his paper. Must have needed the publicity.

          • sugarplumfairy

            That exhausts me.. I’d have to smack all of ’em..

        • KJP in Portland

          I haven’t watched network TV since I got out of the Navy in ’85. Cable was in by then. I never went back. Who wants to watch ‘The News, STARRING whoever?’. I like BBC. ‘The News, Presented By…’. Mr Cronkite, will you please be cloned?

        • Jgg2012
        • Jgg2012

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7bjzyZlhDok
          Here is another Dede video. I went to the comments section and said “I’ll have what she’s having.”

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        BAAAHHHAAAAA

    • KJP in Portland

      Is the Caribbean ‘Resort’ the FREEWINDS???

  • Cat Daddy
    • KJP in Portland

      Looks like they dragged the poor bugger on the left from The Hole…

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      So there’s the set they are erecting in Clearwater. Looks like they are recycling this and adding the “Saturn ring” of flags, rising low from the back and up above the center.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Nice catch!

    • sugarplumfairy

      Ohhhh quick.. Somebody please give that guy on the left a burger before he collapses..

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I thought it was Moe Rocca…

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          HOW DARE YOU (best Anne Archer voice I can Muster.)

          I love me some MO Rocca…
          That guys needs Scientology to fix his 1.1 condition so I can have him forevuh!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            I have followed Moe Rocca’s career since he was on The Daily Show.

            Have you caught any of his guest appearances on Wait, Wait Don’t Tell Me for NPR?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              No, but now I will.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              My wife downloads the episodes via podcast. It’s a radio quiz show built around the news. Out of Chicago.

            • Eclipse-girl

              It is on National Public Radio.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Yep.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ssssshhhhh, Bury is really a closet Repub, she’s not allowed to listen to NPR. 😉

        • sugarplumfairy
    • i-Betty

      At 0:17 DM is clearly giving someone (off camera) the stink eye. I wonder what they had done to warrant the micro-facial expression.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Stage Manager, desperately trying to signal the COB to step to the left before he gets impaled by flag-wielding Rhine Maidens.

        • i-Betty

          Oh, yes!!! Well remembered, DDD!

          Heehee.

      • Ruby

        Good catch, i-Betty!

      • KJP in Portland

        I saw that too. What a creepy little ________________________ .

    • KJP in Portland

      Look at all the empty wallets applauding. Pathetic…

    • BeverlyHillsBeer

      The ‘is he translating all those languages, on the fly?, what a genius’ video!! I forgot just how megalo-maniacal the Degraded-Demented-Deranged Machiavellian Midget Dave Savage Miscavage truly is.

      Thanks CD- for the archives @ BHB

      • Cat Daddy

        Your welcome, my mind is a storage, need to delete that some day

  • Jo
    • Douglas D. Douglas

      EXCERPT:
      “Thus when the church began offering a tea time, it not only would provide tea, but tools.”

      And the “tools?”

      “I like to talk about tools for life, and the Church of Scientology is the perfect place for that,” says parishioner Betsy Brubaker… says President of the Church, Corinne Sullivan, “our church is all about sharing knowledge and that is exactly what we did at the tea.”

  • SLIM

    20 year old interview with Gerry Armstrong…..
    Done by Spanky Taylor during CAN convention…
    Save it for you’re archives….Or not…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm9CGQXatDg&list=PL455977C0B93AF336

    • BeverlyHillsBeer

      Thanks, Slim- that’ll come in handy on a cold snowy night

  • TonyOrtega

    NEW STORY UP! LEAH REMINI TO TESTIFY IN MONIQUE RATHBUN’S LAWSUIT!

    • Kim O’Brien

      holy shitballs…i just peed a little

      • Tory Christman

        Badddddddda BOOM! :) ((And Tick Tock, Davey……) LOL! Oh Boy…get out the popcorn!!

    • Eclipse-girl

      I have fallen behind and I can’t get caught up

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Wow. Just… wow.

    • i-Betty

      WHAT THE FLAGNOG?!?!

    • Zer0

      HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Narapoid

      BOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!

    • L. C. Spencer

      I…I… SO MANY THINGS… Is this the End Times !?!?!?!!

    • Noni Mause

      It’s the perfect storm!

      • LemonLemon

        A depo from DM would make it an even MORE perfect storm! Can’t wait to see what TD has to say now that he’s been out. Better hurry up and pick up a new box of hair dye, Davey. Those grey hairs are gonna start coming in very quickly now.

    • Sydjazz

      Woah! Freakin woohoo leah

  • Zer0

    I know it’s been said before, but when the Dallas Org was merged with the Dallas Celebrity Centre, it’s pretty obvious only one person could have ordered those two corporate entities to join. That’s called doing business in Texas, Davey.

  • http://aprilwalsh.blogspot.com/ April Walsh

    I don’t know Marty Rathbun, but I don’t think much of him from what I’ve read and videos I’ve seen. I like that he’s left and that he’s leaking, but I don’t like that he doesn’t take much personal responsibility for the things he’s done. I do, however, think his wife is an innocent victim in all this and I love her for being quite fierce and pushing forward. Whatever happens with this suit, I can’t wait to see more and more jerks being dragged onto the stand, frothing at the mouth. Like with the COS frivolous lawsuits and sneaky tactics, it’s not about winning. It’s about making those bastards pay. :) This should be a nice taste of their own medicine, whatever happens.

  • valshifter

    found this shoop on a Russian website.