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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Will Smith-Backed School That Used Scientology Materials Closes Its Doors

NVLAActing on a tip from a parent that was posted over at WhyWeProtest.net, we contacted a former teacher at New Village Leadership Academy to ask if the school in Calabasas, California has shut its doors permanently.

He said that it has, and forwarded us to a Facebook message that was posted on June 28 by Eva Sanchez, who worked at the school: “Today, I closed a beautiful beautiful book full of great people, wonderful memories & endless stories that I will never forget. Tough day!”

We have confirmed directly with a member of the academy’s board of directors that the school has closed down.

The school achieved notoriety for having been supported by generous donations from actor Will Smith and his wife Jada Pinkett Smith, whose children attended classes there (but haven’t for some time). Tax records show that the Smiths also were on the school’s board of directors. New Village Leadership Academy was a non-profit, independent school for kindergarten through sixth grade.

Although the Smiths play down their connection to the Church of Scientology, New Village Leadership Academy made use of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard’s “study technology,” which is a part of what every church member must learn.

As described in its tax returns, the school took in $1,235,000 from the Smiths’ WJS Trust to get the academy going in 2008. According to press reports, $889,000 of that was used to lease a facility for three years — previously, it had been the site of a public high school.

Roger Friedman, who keeps a close eye on Smith’s charitable giving, noted more recently that the Smiths’ donations to Scientology-related entities are way down.

According to the school’s most recent tax return, in 2011 the school had taken in $2.1 million in contributions, down from $2.8 million the year before. A source familiar with the academy’s history tells us that the Smiths had financed the first three years of the school, but had hoped it would become self-sufficient after that. Despite numerous fundraisers, NVLA was unable to raise enough money to keep going.

In 2009, the Smiths fired the woman who had been hired to run the school, Jacqueline Olivier, reportedly because she had clashed with the couple about the use of the Hubbard materials. She was replaced by Franca Campopiano, also known as Piano Foster. She was still listed as the head of the school in the latest tax return.

Our source who taught at the academy told us that not only were the children at the school learning Scientology’s “study tech,” but also concepts of Scientology “ethics” were being introduced to students. (The church’s “ethics” generally contain policies that reinforce Scientology’s systems of interrogation and control.)

There’s no indication at the school’s website that anything has changed. However, responding to Eva Sanchez’s Facebook message, another Academy employee, Sisu Raiken, wrote: “And today is the first day of whatever is next. Thanks for your loyalty and hard work, Eva! I know we will meet up in the future. And soon!”

We put in a call to Will Smith through his production company: We later heard back that Smith had no comment.

While we wait for more details to emerge, please enjoy this look at the school’s staff during happier times…

 

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 3, 2013 at 14:00

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  • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

    Rich donors propping up a failing system – that’s textbook Scientology for you.

    • Missionary Kid

      Probably, they got regged so much for building funds, all of the smaller donors don’t have the money to support anything else.

      The $cion money vacuum strikes again. Footbullet. I feel sorry for these kids when they hit a normal school. They’re going to find out how much they didn’t learn.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Their FB page is all about fundraisers. Scientology has become the Holy Grail of Fundraising, hasn’t it? Okay…I might have inadvertently found where these Village People went off the rails.
        https://www.facebook.com/NVLAlife

        “Want to meet Will and Jaden Smith? Purchase tickets and a meet and greet to the premiere of AE at NVLA’s eBay auction at http://www.nvlaauction.com

        They obviously had an Misunderstood Word and then mispelled The Name of who must not be mentioned, thereby angering the Xenu himself. Here’s one of their fundraising promo pieces:

        http://tinypic.com/r/2ezmjwo/5

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    I was going to ask if there is information about why the school closed its doors. Then I saw the video. I’m going to guess that the students accidentally got a look at it too, and ran. Either that, or the students were all found to be out ethics when profits fell and their amends project was to watch every minute of the movie, “After Earth”.

    Then, in applying Hubbard’s ethics conditions, they go to the part where they have to decide who they thought they were, who they are now, and who they really want to be. I’m guessing they did Not want to be a Jaden Smith clone …. and they all blew. Notice there are No students in the video.

    • Whiningmachine

      It was probably not term time yet (one would hope at least). While the video is indeed mock-worthy, as a teacher who left the profession less than a week ago, I’m left feeling quite sad. Once you cut through so much terrible lip-syncing (and some passable stuff) it looks like the school had some pretty great staff, and some real characters teaching in their classrooms. The fact that the video was so complicated to choreograph, and yet looked so simple, makes me think that the teachers really wanted to enrich the school experience for their students, and I think they probably had some great relationships with the students. While you can easily point out that the school wouldn’t have been there if it were not for the ridiculous {study} tech, I still say, make no mistake: this is the school that Scientology destroyed.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I am a huge cheerleader of education and admirer of the teaching profession. I was initially excited when I was in about the format and environment and the staff enthusiasm for the Apple School platform. There was a great emphasis on utilizing physical arts, music and all mediums to learn, it was a creative approach that has worked in many incubator educational centers. It is a valid and successful one and now that phys ed and arts having been stripped away in far too many U.S. school budgets, the poor results prove the point. But this isn’t about creative approaches.

        It’s about the Hubbard approach. The study tech is not a minor part of the problem and the fact that Hubbard’s manipulative and oppressive tech is part and parcel of every scientology endeavor is what makes it horrible when it is being forced on children. There has been enough time and reviews of Hubbard’s educational mess to evidence fairly consistent results and they are Not something anyone who truly cares about the students would continue to pursue. I don’t care about their Good Intentions. They have every responsibility to diligently review what methods they are using and if they did so, they would not be using the Hubbard Totalitarian Method.

        • richelieu jr

          Yes, if it wasn’t for the giant, stinking turd in the Etron (turd) à la Persil, that sprig of parsley could have been delicious.

        • Whiningmachine

          Yeah… I agree with you completely. No freakin’ way would I teach clay demos in any classroom, and a professional teacher with actual, real qualifications would be horrified at the Hubbard ‘method’. In fact, it outrages me that he dared to invade this noble profession with some half-baked crap that not even the most negligent teacher would find it difficult to top. The utter arrogance of the man. Still, even though they are teaching nonsense, these people would have been probably utterly indoctrinated, and would have been certain that they were doing something really good. I’m glad the school failed, seriously, but I’m still sad for those teachers who probably gave their all to this misguided, and now failed, endeavour.

          • Gerard Plourde

            “I’m still sad for those teachers who probably gave their all to this misguided, and now failed, endeavor.”
            I’m sad that they could somehow reconcile Hubbard’s nonsense with actual pedagogical theory. If they had any training in educational psychology or theories of education they should have known that he was about as qualified in the field of education as he was in the field of physics.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I tend to a) feel that scientologists are Not above the law or educational or professional requirements for their jobs and b) feel sorry for the kids. Just take a look at how the kids felt, feel, turned out at exscientologykids.com

        • Gerome

          Hubbard was an intellectual failure, and his bogus educational “inventions” were merely instruments to enslave children. He had no interest in ANYONE being educated; rather, he was trying to weaken the resolve of adults and children to think critically.

    • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

      Yeah I thought the lack of children in the video was odd as well. That seems to be typical of Scientology’s outreaches – the people they’re trying to supposedly help are always an afterthought. They’re just interested in the fundraising and PR.

  • BosonStark

    How curious, I wonder why it is closing — probably too many kids (and parents) getting on the Internet and reading about Dr. Hubtard? Or just the decreasing donations from the thetans Smith?

    • richelieu jr

      No connection– no way those students or their parents know how to read…

    • pronoia

      All private schools depend on outside fundraising (tuition rarely covers it). So if the enrollment is low, and if the fundraising is not going well . . . no way can it continue to go on (you can’t cut art and gym or increase class size in a private school due to lack of funds!)

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        What? No big IAS donation so that they can tout how much the Scions support eduction in the community? A missed PR opportunity? They are getting lazy.

        • grundoon

          At IAS, money only goes in, never out.

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            except to pay lawyers to cover their crimes; private investigators to follow and harass people who are just trying to live their lives; a landlord, cameramen and big bucks for their months-long squirrel buster operations…

  • Observer

    Mmmm, Scientology failure is delicious!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Of course not! Look at all the fine actors and musicians they have ruined.
      And what about clay demos!

      OK, so they suck at Photoshop.

    • richelieu jr

      I just read the Guardian article about the ex-manager of The Incredible String Band and how he accidentlaly introduced them to Scientology and it ruined their creativity…

      Also, for any Marty-ians, he talks about how he and Don Simpson (yes, the big producer) tried it out (60k worth each!) in the early 70′s, and how they got creeped out by threats having their lives controlled and the general atmosphere of m-paranoia broken promises and outright lies..

      But, of course,w e all know DM is the one who messed it up in spite of Marty’s heroic efforts…

      • Observer

        The snark is strong in France today!

      • Captain Howdy

        Did you know that Robert Plant use to date Rose Simpson from the Incredible String Band, and that Stairway To Heaven is about her and scientology?

        • BuryTheNuts2

          But he called the song “Stairway to Heaven” when it clearly should have been called “A Bridge to Nowhere”.

          I think Robert was an R-6 Im(Plant).

        • pronoia

          No Way! I love Robert Plant and did not know that.

          Funny sad thing about that song. My little brother loved that song, learned to play it and played over and over and over. And then got sucked into the Elizabeth Clare Prophet Summit Lighthouse end of the world underground bunker cult in Montana in throughout most of the 80s.

          ‘and she’s buyingyingying you a stairway to heaven.”

          • Victoria Pandora

            I just remember the sign at the guitar store in westwood that read “NO STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN” in the try out room. I always thought that was a rumour, you means it is really true?

            • Captain Howdy

              It’s completely true and thoroughly researched.

            • Missionary Kid

              The reason is probably because it’s played so often, and, for radio stations, requested so often, that people who have to work around it get tired of hearing it.

              I like the other reason, too.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Then EVERY guitar store Everywhere would have a sign saying: DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT PLAYING SMOKE ON THE WATER!

            • Missionary Kid

              I thought about that, too. There’s a great bit on Two and a Half Men where the kid keeps playing the chords from Smoke on the Water.

              I like the song, but I hate repetition.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              “I like the song, but I hate repetition.””I like the song, but I hate repetition.”
              “I like the song, but I hate repetition.””I like the song, but I hate repetition.”
              “I like the song, but I hate repetition.””I like the song, but I hate repetition.”

              Sorry MK, I love ya man…but SAY WHAT?

              Smoke on the water is in the dictionary as …wait for it…….. Repetition

            • Missionary Kid

              After a while, it’d be like hearing It’s a Small World over and over, even though it’s a great riff.

              In hell, (which I don’t believe in, but this is a fantasy) I’m hoping that DM has to listen to IASW forever.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              It’s a small world?
              Now you are just asking for hit man!

              No…I don’t mean Dick Clark.
              I don’t think I could even wish that one on Dave!!!

            • Missionary Kid

              I can hope for it being played, especially for all of the harm he’s perpetrated just to stay in power.

            • Gerome

              Smoke on the Water is the only song I can play on a bass guitar. This is also the case for 15% of the global population.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              This is the only song 15% of the population can play on the bass…. or the guitar.
              OH now my head is pounding with those chords,all fucking four of them.
              KILL ME NOW!!!

            • stillgrace

              You used to be able to buy the sign at the “Starving Musician” music store.
              It was located right next to the bumper sticker reading “Play an accordion … go to jail. It’s the law!”.

        • richelieu jr

          No, I didn’t I had no idea…

          • Captain Howdy

            Please let everyone in France know.

            • richelieu jr

              Will do!

        • MissCandle

          *Gag* That song was the theme of one of my high school proms. What am I going to do with those memories now?

    • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

      That and convoluted financial scams for the most part.

  • Watergate

    Happy to see that the Smiths are smart enough to shed themselves of their Scientology sunk costs. Now, keep running.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yeah, and “After Earth” was a doozey when it comes to sunk costs….

      • Missionary Kid

        AE definitely wasn’t self-supporting, was it?

        • ze moo

          When all is said and done After Earth will make money. Perhaps not a lot of money, but the Smiths investment will be paid back, with a small profit to boot. You should be able to see AE on HBO by Christmas or January next year. Mark your calendar now….you wouldn’t want to be watching ‘Rudolf the red nose reindeer’ and miss it…..

          • Missionary Kid

            I think AE will hit HBO by September, but then I don’t know the business. I agree that it will probably break even, but it will take a long time to do that. In the meantime, it gobbled up resources that could have been used on a more successful movie.

            • Bella Legosi

              AE will be one of those movies I wouldnt watch, even if it was free.

            • Missionary Kid

              Amen.

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Well, that video seals the deal!
    If I had any doubts about this being pure Scientology…..I don’t anymore.
    There is something very, uh, “special” about Scientology videos.

    I always feel like a degraded ash tray after watching one of them….

    • richelieu jr

      Don’t say that around here- You’ll only get ordered around!

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        but thanked, none-the-less.

      • Bruce Hines

        And standing up and sitting down a lot …

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Thank you!
          __________________________

          Edit: Oh wait…here is where I get to use my all other religion’s schtick…

          Well If you were a Catholic, you would be genuflecting.
          It is the same thing!………..except for the knee relacements…

          And this is a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

            Of course it’s a joke I don’t see vagina brackets

            • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

              So … if I use {} in a comment and no one replies … am I engaging in a vagina monologue?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              ^^^^SEE?
              This just begs for a Pap smear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

              “begs for a Pap smear” … I don’t know that I’ve ever seen those words strung together.

              Oddly enough … the thought of stirrups and an oversized pair of ice cold speculums and the Beloved Leader …..

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Sorry…I had one this week, so it is still on my mind…or something…….

            • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

              No problem … I had a colonic that was so powerful I’m still cleaning out my ears … it happens ….

            • BuryTheNuts2

              GACK…SEE…THIS IS WHY!!!

    • McLovin_1982

      Shouldn’t that be {special} or am I missing a new {tone scale}?

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I am a rebel!

        • Captain Howdy

          I refuse to use the font!

          http://youtu.be/3iV8X8ubGCc

          • BuryTheNuts2

            I tried, but almost everything I type would have those little vagina brackets around it.
            So just consider that I come with an automatic Bunker disclosure that sarcasm is to be assumed.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              “vagina brackets” *spews on screen*

            • Missionary Kid

              I’ll call them “vagina brackets” as a secondary name. I love it.

          • Missionary Kid

            That’s fine not to use it, Howdy.Nobody’s gonna force you to (wear the ribbon).

            I’m not a big fan of a show that was basically about nothing, but that sure looked like $cions getting regged.

            • Captain Howdy

              {Sorry}

            • Missionary Kid

              Got me. read that as (Sorry). It’s all personal choice. Cap’n, as far as I’m concerned, you and BTN2 can do anything you want. You guys have been great here.

            • Captain Howdy

              Likewise, MK

            • Missionary Kid

              I take that as a high compliment, because I really appreciate your intelligence and insight, and the fact that it’s often wrapped with devastating snark makes it a fun read.

            • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

              Hmmm come to think of it, perhaps those brackets would be more useful for the majority of the Bunkerites should they choose to to be non-snarkfic for a moment.

            • Missionary Kid

              Valerie, you got a laugh out of me on that one.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Honestly…The math makes much more sense that way!

            • Captain Howdy

              Thanks for all those unworthy compliments, MK. ;)

      • Verve

        No, they are {happy/3.5} <– tone level

    • Captain Howdy

      10 seconds in you know you’re dealing with sciloons because everybody knows that sciloons are the most dorkiest people on the planet.

      • Jgg2012

        That’s an insult to the world’s dorks!

        • Observer

          I’m glad someone stepped up to defend my honor.

    • FistOfXenu

      THANK YOU!

    • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

      Can anyone get Mike Rinder to confirm/deny that watching this was part of the systemic abuse at the Hole?

      If not …

  • The Dakini

    I haven’t been at the Bunker for awhile, and I will say this was a great post to come back to!

  • media_lush

    I think all the parents had to do is take one look at Jaden and his recent behaviour and say…. yeah, that’s NOT how I want my kid to grow up, lulz

    • BosonStark

      Maybe Jaden decided he wanted to go to a professional school for child actors — if they still have those — and not do the checklist thing at clam school. He also could have found a private tutor he likes, and skip the school thing.

      • media_lush

        The whole Will Smith divorce story was open to a lot of conjecture at the time and I went with what Enty hinted at in a blind item [he bats about 1000 when it comes to getting things right in the world of celeb gossip crap] … his main gist was that a lot of tension was caused with the parents disagreeing on the schooling their kids were getting…. she was pro the scion school and he against…. I wonder if it was having to stump up a whole bunch more cash to keep it going as the source in Tony’s article said:

        “Smith had financed the first three years of the school, but had hoped it would become self-sufficient after that”…..

        makes sense in hindsight

        • Missionary Kid

          At least he had the sense to pull the plug. The cost of renting the campus had to be huge, let alone the utility bills. I’m wondering if they had the whole campus.

  • BuryTheNuts2

    I want hat.

  • BosonStark

    If Tom Cruise can’t bring up his own daughter as a Sciloon, what’s the point of bringing up any child as one?

    • Missionary Kid

      {He could always put her in the Sea Org} = Sarcasm
      I wouldn’t wish that on any kid. If he loves his kids, he’ll keep them as far as possible from Co$.

    • richelieu jr

      C’mon, Boson, that’s not fair! It’s like saying, ‘If you can’t rape your own child what’s the point of trying to rape any others?

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    Paging poster California to the Bunker for comment!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Bring it!

      [IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/wmf0i.jpg[/IMG]

      • Missionary Kid

        Hole, ya don’t need the [IMG]

  • Jgg2012

    You mean it only took five years for them to achieve perfect memory / perfect intelligence?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Holy Wot? momentary derail. CNN reporting military ousts Morsy. It looks like Egypt will now be celebrating 4th of July and they have excellent fireworks … going off now.

    • McLovin_1982

      OK…. so now that hell really is freezing over, THE CUBS WIN THE WORLD SERIES!!!

      • Missionary Kid

        I was a Cubs fan when I was a little kid living in Chicago over 60 years ago.
        One can always hope….

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Oh, so you are the one!

          • Missionary Kid

            Nah, now I just root for them because they’re such underdogs.

            • McLovin_1982

              Hey it only hurts for the first 100 years… then it’s just normal.

              Editors Note: Sorry for derail :-(

            • Missionary Kid

              I can’t remember, but I think Hank Saur was my hero. I was 7 years old.

        • McLovin_1982

          Last name wouldn’t happen to be Bartman would it??? <3

          • Missionary Kid

            Nope, sorry.

        • Robert Eckert

          Somebody sent me a piece on things that have happened since the Cubs last won the World Series:

          The Cubs built a brand new ballpark, Wrigley Field. Wrigley Field was equipped with flagpoles for all the Cubs’ World Series banners. All those poles rusted out and were removed, long long ago. Wrigley Field has become the oldest park in Major League Baseball, among the oldest in any sport anywhere in the world.

          The Titanic was launched, had its maiden voyage, struck an iceberg, sank, and was lost. A hit movie was made about it, starring Carole Lombard, who had not been born when the Cubs last won the World Series. The Titanic was found again. Another hit movie was made about it, starring Leonardo DiCaprio, whose grandparents had not been born when the Cubs last won the World Series.

          Harry Caray was born, grew old, and died. Sad but true.

          • McLovin_1982

            I loved Harry…. grew up listening to him call Cubs games on WGN radio, then I got married, had kids, kids grew up and moved away, Harry died. HE made all the losing bearable, and boy was he great for the beer endorsements!

          • Missionary Kid

            The Brooklyn Dodgers were once the hard luck team of baseball. They would win everything but the World Series against the Yankees, or lose in a playoff to the Giants. That’s how they got the nickname, Dem Bums. Even when they play badly now, you rarely hear it.

            Boston had the same heartbreak, until recently. They called it the Curse of the Bambino. That was taken care of with a couple of recent World Series wins.

            Cubs fans have to be the most long suffering group, yet they’re very loyal. There’s a rich lore to them. What other fans have had a play come out of them, like Bleacher Bums?

            • Robert Eckert

              My stepdad is a hardcore Detroit Lions fan. He was there to see them win the Championship Game (not the Super Bowl: the AFL did not exist yet) after the 1956 season. I was only six months old back then, and now I’m turning 57, and in all that time the Lions have only won one post-season game: they got eliminated in the second round of the playoffs in I think 2000, one of the Barry Sanders years anyhow; otherwise they always get eliminated in the first round or fail to playoffs altogether, which is hard to do consistently. Football teams that have come into existence much more recently have done better.

            • stillgrace

              It was the “Paper Lion” curse. Remember George Plimpton? It’s his fault.

            • Missionary Kid

              Alex Karras is one of my heroes. I read his bio, and he was one hell of a football player.

              The story of how he got his suspension and how it got lifted is a great one. At least they aren’t the bottom dwellers all the time.

          • FistOfXenu

            I remember him but I refuse to be the guy that asks how some body named “Harry Caray” died.

      • Jgg2012

        If the Saints can win a Super Bowl…

    • Bella Legosi

      I saw that the military was beginning to back a coup last night. I say good riddance to bad rubbish! Looks like Egypt isn’t all filled with fanatics!

      • Captain Howdy

        Yeah. but the Islamic Brotherhood isn’t going to go peacefully. It looks like civil war in Syria, Egypt and I think Iraq is getting read to blow. And Putin is daring us to cross that line in the sand.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          This Information Age, Internet Fad thingy is really whipping up havoc for certain people and places, isn’t it?

        • Bella Legosi

          {So its business as usual still}

          I bet the CIA hasn’t been this busy since the early 60′s! The sad part is that innocents will continue to die, until the next asshole steps in. Go Egypt IMO, they dont need talking garbbage cans like the “Brotherhood” speaking for them or anyone else! Its nice to see hundreds of thousands agree with just that! Gives me some hope for this crazy world!

          • Missionary Kid

            The problem is that out in the hinterlands, the Muslim Brotherhood holds sway, while the secularists hold sway in the larger cities.

            • Bella Legosi

              hah sounds like Oregon! But with out the Allah Akbar, fireworks, and tunics!

            • Missionary Kid

              You forgot Burkahs, a desire for Sharia law, and a desire to kill or intimidate the infidels who don’t conform.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Jesus Captain….Your changing your AV’s faster than that lunatic ADHD BTN!!!!
          Stop that before I KR your ass to TO.

        • Bella Legosi

          Love the Lovecraft av by the way! If ever there was a Dark Lord it would be Cthulu! Praise be to the Great Old One slumbering, encased with in the bottom of the Pacific Ocean!

          Ftsggga ukftggrd!

        • Bella Legosi

          Just read some reports of female journalist(s) who have been raped at Tahir Square. Many are thinking that the Brotherhood or “rogue” fanatics are sexually assaulting women to keep them away. Apparently there were over 40 instances of this just on Saturday alone. It also stated that there were two other female journalists who were raped there while covering the protests back in ’11.

          What screwhead pigs!

  • richelieu jr

    The third little pig built his house with a wall of clay, illustrating a red-headed man with a beak shoving crap down children’s throats while the nice black man and his pretty wife hold them down…

    “I’ll huff and I’ll puff, and I’ll blow your tech down”!

    And he did.

    And there was much rejoicing!

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    I wonder if they were really teachers — or course room sups. I think it was Jenna’s book that describes her going through the motions of school — self paced — with no guidance or instruction. If you don’t understand it, look it up. Period. How would this even be accredited?

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe the schooling that Jenna went to was for children of dedicated $cions. I don’t think it was open to outsiders.

      • dagobarbz

        Also that was at Gold, not some actor-funded showplace skool.

      • aquaclara

        I’m guessing that the school tried to appeal to Hollywood wannabees with the hope of getting them into the cult, along with a smattering of some baby clams. For the baby clams, the school was a poor excuse for an education. Maybe they will have a better chance elsewhere.

        For the parents who just wanted their kids to hob-nob with movie stars, well, shame on them in the first place. Now they can put their kids in a real school and stop thinking that because their kid met Will Smith that his or her future would be rich.

  • dagobarbz

    Heh…remember when Socalanon turned out to raid that school?
    And Woll Smoth said no it wasn’t Scientology and then they fired the wog principle and hired some clam named after a musical instrument with big ivory teeth?

    Good times…good times…

    • aquaclara

      The Radar Online article Tony added as a link in the article (“J. Olivier reportedly because”) mentions a protest when the school opened….would that have been the raid???? if so, nice press!

      • dagobarbz

        http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=28945

        It was 2008, when Anonymous was running strong!

        • aquaclara

          This thread is excellent. A fun raid, Anons got great reportage and a chance to meet Will Smith (in his pre- career tanking days).

          I particularly loved the comments from the kids at the neighboring junior high, who already knew it was a cult. A truly lovely raid.

          Thanks for the link.

  • 0tessa

    Thank God for that! At least some more children are being saved from ‘confessionals’.

  • derfty

    So what did they do with the over $30k tuition that they receive from every student. And why haven’t any school employees filed lawsuits for being forced to learn the “religious” tech? I want answers, dammit!

    • Missionary Kid

      Probably because the parents were probably “in” already.

      We’ll see. One can only hope, but I’ll bet the school is bankrupt.

      • derfty

        Some were fired for not going along with the program.

        • Missionary Kid

          In other words, they actually tried to teach.

      • derfty

        I would sue Woll and Jaded. They have money

        • Missionary Kid

          The school is probably a corporation with few assets. That probably separates the Smiths from liability.

          • BigBangBaby

            Fukc, you’ll just pull anything out of your ass.

            The school is a nonprofit, brainiac.

            • Missionary Kid

              Well, for one thing, it’s closed. Get your facts straight.

              You either think there’s censorship here, or you can’t spell “Fuck.”
              If a school is nonprofit, that doesn’t necessarily mean its any better. Why didn’t they get accreditation?

            • BigBangBaby

              Lulz at you telling me to get my facts straight. I’m pretty sure you’re knowledge on the subject is……out of your ass and/or just a wild guess.

              P.S. I believe they were going to be this coming year. It can take years to get accredited.

            • Missionary Kid

              Obviously, you didn’t read Tony Ortega’s reply to you, taken off the school’s present website. You could have double checked his quote, but you are either lazy, choose to be ignorant, or stupid.

              Yes, it can take a while to get accredited. We’ll never know if the school would qualify, will we?

              I thought LRH was weird when I first was introduced to his crap in the late 50′s. It’s only gotten worse in the intervening years. He was stuck in the 30s and 40s then, and he didn’t learn anything much from the rest of the world.

              Look up what some of his contemporary science fiction writers had to say about him. He was a don man. His writing style was such that only clams and publicity made his writing popular again.

              He was also a great movie producer. Look at all the Oscars he’s won.

              He was a great physicist, who flunked the only course he ever took.

            • BigBangBaby

              And obviously you didn’t read my reply to him.

              I believe you can go on to wayback machine and see a screen shot of the original website and see how it hasn’t changed at all over the years. Of course, if you’re too lazy and your fingers weren’t covered in ranch dressing from dipping your cheetos in, you’d be able to see that.

            • Missionary Kid

              So, what corrections would you make?

              Maybe one of the problems the school had was that their marketing sucked, and the website was a part of it.

            • Gerome

              Provide your dox, MK and the rest are NYPA

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    The thought of Scientology “ethics” being put on those kids makes my skin crawl. I keep thinking of that checklist of questions for kids that Tony once posted when it looked like Suri was going down that road. Once they get started with that, can you imagine e-meters and a big portrait of LRH in every class room…. urgh! Say no to Hitler Youth!

    • pronoia

      The stories of what it is like to grow up in an environment of sec checks and study check are countless over at ex-scientologykids.com. One only need to search the terms “Delphi” and “Apple.”

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        Thanks for the reminder–haven’t been over there in awhile.

    • grundoon

      HCO BULLETIN OF 21 SEPTEMBER 1961
      SECURITY CHECK CHILDREN
      http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/isd/isd-5i.htm

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      ‘I once asked him why he chose young girls as messengers,’ said Doreen
      Smith. ‘He said it was an idea he had picked up from Nazi Germany. He said
      Hitler was a madman, but nevertheless a genius in his own right and the Nazi
      Youth was one of the smartest ideas he ever had. With young people you had a
      blank slate and you could write anything you wanted on it and it would be your
      writing. That was his idea, to take young people and mould them into little
      Hubbards. He said he had girls because women were more loyal than men.’ Barefaced Messiah, Chap 19

      http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/bfm/bfm19.htm

      A Quote to Remember: “That was his idea, to take young people and mould them into little Hubbards.”

      • Missionary Kid

        The problem is, he didn’t control the society and information like Hitler did. He could only control information in the cult.

        The internet has obliterated the information control.

      • cre8tivewmn

        Given his history with women before he became a {religious figure} I’m sure that their loyalty wasn’t the only reason.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Eww…because every kid wants to grow up to be a hideous lying nutbag of a jackass with a mouth full of brown rotting teeth, liver lips and a forehead boil that could likely get him mistaken for a mutant unicorn!
        Hail XENU!!!!

  • Spackle Motion

    The post at WWP is an interesting one.

    This horrific institution has CLOSED! The star founders should be ashamed of the lies propagated by the unethical staff. Sadly, I don’t think they are as the so – called ‘founders’ are guilty of the same hypocrisy as the lying administrators they hired. Gone is Ms. Foster (hooray!) the promoter of secret surveillance and teacher bullying. Gone is Ms. Carolyn (hooray!) the keeper of the covert – op recording pen used to collect information on teachers, parents and students. Gone is Ms Julie (hooray!) the do nothing for her huge salary while the teacher get paid nothing daughter of the now also gone Mr. Hendry (hooray!) the behind the scenes, highly paid, contract hire, director of Scientology Curriculum (WATCH OUT; THIS GUY IS STILL OUT THERE IN THE SCHOOL KID PUBLIC WORKING HIS XENU LIES INTO PROGRAMS SUCH AS ABC MOUSE). In a final insult to the duped parents who sent their kids to this sad excuse for a school, the administration failed to notify anyone of the closure until well after the deadline for admission into other schools. Great job guys. Wonder where all the fund raising money went? Rumor from other parents is legal investigation is ongoing.

    • pronoia

      Now why am I not surprised?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I would like to hear more on this, and from more than one parent and perhaps teachers. it is typical in a sci run business that a few at the top get high pay or overpay and all else get lower than normal wages. covert recording pens, secret surveillance, bullying, fraud, questionable financials, hidden infiltration, detrimental, sudden customer dump …sounds like an Ideal Scientology Front Group to me.

    • Minion Gayle

      Wait a minute, ABC Mouse is Scientology?

      • stillgrace

        “I have been noticing more and more Scientology sites promoting their online pre-school game ABC Mouse (Age of Learning Inc.)”
        Source: http://www.divided-by-zero.com/showthread.php?965-ABC-Mouse

        “Dohring (founder of ABCmouse.com) says he has raised $15 million to fund the site from a group of investors he declines to identify. He says he’s confident parents will pay the subscription fee to keep the site clear of advertisements.”
        Source: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/11/15/from-neopets-to-teachers-pets/

        • Minion Gayle

          Thanks. I’ve seen the commercials and had actually been thinking about checking it out for my 4-year old. Not so much anymore.

    • Captain Howdy

      Will and Jada downvoted you, DC.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Another legal investigation? Yay!

    • Gus_Cox

      “Gone is Ms Julie (hooray!) the do nothing for her huge salary while the teacher get paid nothing daughter of the now also gone Mr. Hendry (hooray!) the behind the scenes, highly paid, contract hire, director of Scientology Curriculum (WATCH OUT; THIS GUY IS STILL OUT THERE IN THE SCHOOL KID PUBLIC WORKING HIS XENU LIES INTO PROGRAMS SUCH AS ABC MOUSE).”

      Is that Dave Hendry? And Julie Giffin? Dave Hendry was one of the founding faculty at Delphi, IIRC. I think Julie (née Foster) (if I’m thinking of the right one) is his stepdaughter?

  • aquaclara

    Several things here sound fishy.

    The money: The school had no endowment. From the facebook site, it looks like a year of fundraisers. Even the the home page of the website promotes the annual fund drive. So it looks like the school ran out of money once the Smiths (“their school” in original press reports) ran away from it and pulled their kids out. If Suri did go there for a bit, that was a while ago, and may have lost any PR value once she didn’t go there.

    Enrollment: There doesn’t appear to be much info on the size of the school, but mentions range from maybe 40 to maybe 80 kids. Yet they leased a high school for this, when perhaps all they needed were a handful of classrooms.

    Accreditation: Does California law require that the school be fully accredited? Delphi in Oregon is not. The scilons don’t appear to be worried about it, since most kids don’t go to college.

    Could this have been some Scamatology amends project put on the Smiths back in 08?

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    “Ethics” is one of those words that really, REALLY, mean something else when it’s used by the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology.

    Child abuser Donald “Tony” Strawn was presumably untroubled by “ethics” as the organisation not only knew he was abusing children but tried to cover up the crimes.

    Head of hate organisation CCHR, Janice Eastgate Meyer, was under criminal investigation for perverting the course of justice (a neat definition of $cientology “ethics” in action, right there).

    Meanwhile, the kids (and everybnody else subject to $cientology “ethics”) are taught the value of turning each other in for all sorts of infringement, thought crimes included. A control mechanism as severe as is needed – check out Jenna Miscavige Hill’s book “beoynd belief” if you want to see what a childhod with $cientology “ethics” is really like.

    (Hint: it’s not nice!)

    • Mark

      Scientology “ethics” = sophistry.

      • Johan

        Or “re-education”, communist style

      • Missionary Kid

        $cientology “ethics” = evil personified. It’s far worse than the selling of indulgences.

        If you pay, and don’t embarrass Co$, do what thou will.

        • Bella Legosi

          Amen. You know how twisted and fucked you have to be to surapss the Vatican?

          • Missionary Kid

            And, as far as I know, the Vatican hasn’t sold any for centuries.

      • FistOfXenu

        $cientology “ethics” = Newspeak

    • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

      Scientology Ethics and Legal Justice. My two least favorite oxymorons.

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    I wonder if the We-Are-Not-Scientologists Smiths will get their Ethics put in for this FAIL!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Maybe Will (I am a physicist at heart) Smith is going to Marty Rathbun now for Quantum Auditing?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        or “pay no attention to the science” Professor Mikey.

      • aquaclara

        or Will Smith, follower of {world religions}.

    • pronoia

      According to Lawrence Wright, Tom Cruise is THE Hollywood “I will not hesitate to put ethics in on anyone” guy.

      Wonder iany playdates for Jaden and Connor have been planned the near future.

  • Racnad

    Funny, Apple School was able to support itself without deep pocket donors. It took the SP Declaration of the founder’s husband to drive it under.

    • pronoia

      Apple school was probably much more of a bare bones operation which did not have to appeal to the parents of wog kids who expect real teaching, art, test books, gym, and small classes and so forth for the $30g tuition.

      • Racnad

        I guess NVLA was supposed to be sort of a “Ideal Org” of Study Tech schools.

  • ze moo

    “Follow the money”. 200K for the principal, large payments to ‘consultants’. Only 80 students in an old leased high school?? Add in the payments to “Applied Scholastics” and perhaps ABLE and you’ll see a typical ‘charter school’ scam in action. If any funds came from the feds or state, an audit should be done.

    • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

      I tried to upvote this. The numbers by the upvote arrow flashed from 5 to 6 a bunch, then two upvotes were taken away from it and two downvotes were added. The hell?

      • grundoon

        Several people voting at the same time.

      • Robert Eckert

        I see “negative two” downvotes. Is a minus-downvote the same as an upvote?

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          in Scion math?

      • the wrong cranberry

        The best part is how they’re not even downvotes, they’re *negative* downvotes. Does that mean they’re upvotes?

        • FistOfXenu

          Well, Jaden does say we need a new kind of math to really understand everything. So maybe those down votes are are just some $cieno’s way to figure out the universe.

    • aquaclara

      I FORGOT about the “hands in the coffers” payments.
      Reminder to self: It is ALWAYS about the money in this cult.

      *slapping my head silly*

      • ze moo

        Expect to see the names of the ‘New Village” people (no YMCA jokes) show up at other ‘charter’ schools. This is a lucrative scam that can be repeated many times in many places.

        • FistOfXenu

          “NEW Y – M – C – A! “NEW Y – M – C – A! …”

          Sorry, you left it sticking up.

    • Lady Squash

      Is it just me or is education that expensive…80 kids, millions of dollars in donations and the students paid tuition. I don’t get it.

  • Miles Biondo

    They are as fond of making these self-congratulatory promotional videos as they are horrible at it. Sloppy, derivative, hacky, poorly-executed and laughably outdated — the cult of scientology never fails to disappoint.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      And they owe Randy Newman too!!!

      • Robert Eckert

        For some reason they didn’t play “Short People [got no reason to live...]“

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Sweet!

        • Missionary Kid

          I’m gonna hear that song in my head every time I think of Der Dwarfenfuerer. Thanks.

    • Sherbet

      Geez, it’s not that bad. I’ve seen similar projects from public schools. In the immortal words of…somebody…”it is what it is.”

      • Miles Biondo

        Oh, it is indeed “that bad”. I’m sure you HAVE seen “similar projects from public schools” – from whom do you think the scientologists ripped off the idea? My point is exactly that — they borrowed someone else’s idea, exploited it to promote their evil cause, and then executed it very, very poorly. For crying out loud, how effing hard is it to lip-sync? And yet no one in this video seems able to do it.

        Nor did anyone even bother to learn the one or two simple lines of lyrics each was responsible for. They just move their lips in a vague, noncommittal way, hoping for the best, but meanwhile their expression always says “I’m KILLING it!”

        Also, they’re mock-playing instruments that aren’t even present in the song at the moment they appear in the video (except the keyboard – and what a bang-up job they did on that passage).

        And even with all those people participating, by some odds-defying miracle, absolutely nothing remarkable or even interesting happens. They had no inspiration, no discernible talent, no original ideas – just the usual scientologists’ insatiable urge to tell everyone how wonderful they are.

        Yeah, it really is that bad.

        • Gerome

          Dude, chill.

          Most of them probably didn’t want to do it. They were just being good sports.

          • Miles Biondo

            Who says I’m not “chill”? And in case you’ve somehow stumbled onto this thread knowing nothing at all about scientology, a lot of pretty horrific things have happened in that world because people did things they “didn’t want to do”. They were “just being good sports”.

            • Gerome

              They weren’t scientologists, they were just teachers looking for work

            • Miles Biondo

              Okay, dude. Just chill.

  • Couch_Incident

    There should be lots of cheap modelling clay at the fire sale!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      and more! Perhaps their Rummage Sale in May didn’t work out so well and there’s celeb stuff left over.

      Looking at the bottom portion of that promo piece, it looks like they put some very heavy expectations on their children from a very early age. This is that Hubbard “they’re just adults in little bodies” crappola.

      http://tinypic.com/r/5ds128/5

      • Couch_Incident

        If the kids did make it to Hawaii to study organic farming, I wonder how many years of indentured servitude they have left?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          well, they Did have to pay their own way. And here’s a “charity” auction, with the charity being the school itself. Will and Jada have items on the auction list, Jada donating her motorcycle. And another heavy expectation of the kids to grow up to do the right thing for The Greater Good. run, baby pods, run!

          http://tinypic.com/r/35am6fo/5

  • TonyOrtega

    We’ve updated the post: Smith’s people got back to us and said Will had no comment.

    • ze moo

      Surprised Will had no comment. He met with a group of Anons at a protest at the school in 08 and had a fairly long conversation with them.

      • pronoia

        His PR team seem to have prevailed. Recently, every time he opens his mouth, he has come perilously close lof sounding like a circa 2005 Tom Cruise. Time for him to button it and regroup.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          If there is, in fact, an investigation being requested, or the parents are talking of a lawsuit or anything in that vein, the Smith’s would be advised to clam it. This is very fresh so I imagine both the lower level staff and parents are still in the “stunned” mode. If true that no announcement was made before registration of the upcoming next season, that is very bad news, Especially if the school was still Fundraising up until May or June.

          • pronoia

            Excellent point. Particularly in July, when it is too late to apply to most other private schools, either as a student or a teacher.

            • ze moo

              Lots of time to find other schools, other privates are happy to take checks. Only students sentenced to summer school are going to have trouble.

            • pronoia

              No. Really it does not work that way in private school land. The 1% are brutal amongst themselves. Getting your kid into private school in a place like LA or NY is not far from musical chairs at the Int Base.

            • Missionary Kid

              It depends on the school. That school probably got bad publicity when it opened because of anonymous, and it is unaccredited. Have you noticed that all of the other $cion activities are basically in urban areas? Clamland hardly exists in suburban areas with the low population densities. Why do you think the Ideal Morgs are in downtown areas? The suburbs have a hard time supporting anything big.

              You have to realize that Calabasis is about 35 miles from downtown L.A. It is not L.A., but in the greater L.A. area. The population density is much lower, because that area is very spread out, and basically bedroom communities.

            • pronoia

              I agree that Calabasas is not the most convenient place in LA. But it is extremely affluent and is surrounded by other well heeled places like Woodland Hills and parts of Malibu. Finding out in July that you have to find a school for your kid is not easy. There will, likely be a lot of rip shit pissed off parents whose summer vacations have been suddenly upended.

            • Missionary Kid

              Affluent people don’t generally like Co$, unless they’re clams already. Yes, there are whales, but they generally don’t live near Calabasas.

              Affluent people don’t like to send their kids to unaccredited schools that won’t help Buffy get into college. I’d be interested to see what the kids SAT scores are.

              The fact that after operating for several years, they haven’t been able to attract more students says that their academics probably isn’t very good. At 30K, I’ll bet there isn’t much of a waiting list, if any, for kids who’re a bit smarter than Beavis an Butthead, who would fit right in, because they’re learning LRH instead of the knowledge offered by even a public school.

              Malibu is a long commute, over a very busy two-lane road. that used to be at least a half hour drive when there’s no traffic, and in the morning, there’s a lot of traffic. I’d say on a typical school day, it’s at least an hour one way. For only 40 or 50 students, there’s not going to be much carpooling.

              If you look at a map, you’ll see that there are vast tracts of land that are basically empty close by because the Santa Monica Mountains surround the area.

              .Calabasas has something like 23 K population in 13 sq. miles. Santa Monica has 90 K, in 16 sq. miles, and it is surrounded by L.A.

              Compared to Santa Monica, Calabasis has very low density in the surrounding 10 miles.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Monica,_California

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabasas,_California

          • Observer

            The person who posted the tip at WWP said the school didn’t announce it was closing until it was too late to get their kids registered at other schools.

          • Robert Eckert

            Yeah, it may be lawyers more than PR people who are telling the Smiths to exercise their right to remain silent.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        There is a very different environment today. Defending his church could mean answering, questions including, but definitely not limited to: forced disconnection, GAT I, and II, child abuse, forced abortions, refunds, Narconon, fraud, wrongful deaths, nonconsensual slave labor working conditions, false imprisonment, blockbuster best selling novels exposing, among other things, LRH resume fraud and child labor violations, violence by Tom Cruise, the culture of violence within the church under both Hubbard and Miscavige, and last, but not least, the reign of terror created by David Miscavige since his apparent coup d’etat of the church in 1986. If Smith didn’t defend the church, or admitted he had left the church, that also would make headlines, and who knows what Miscavige would do to him.

        Still, it was his school, if I was a student, teacher or parent of a student, I would feel very let down.

    • SP ‘Onage

      Aww…’Cheer Up Will Smith!’ :D

      • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

        Too bad there is no longer a website he can visit to help him with that.

    • Chocolate Velvet

      Whaaaaa?!

      I am shocked.

  • dbloch7986

    You must be working Sea Org hours to get all this content posted, Tony.

    • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

      But although he is attempting to make a living on donations from broke-ass blog commenters contributing out of the kindness of their heart, my bet is his pay still exceeds that do Sea Org.

      • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

        BTW … If I click the banner ads … Does that make Tony money? If I click the one that often shows up for my local Idle Org … Does that cost them money?

        Ever since the exchequer started auditing my discretionary expenses … I can’t donate like the good old days … but if clicking an ad helps … I’m there …

  • Minion Gayle

    Good.

  • J. Swift

    IMO, the massive failure of After Earth likely triggered the school closing.

    Looks like Will Smith wanted to make a hard and sharp and very public break from Scientology.
    As an actor, he got a big wake up call when After Earth was castigated as a Scientology-themed film.

    • Missionary Kid

      But it would have been a very bad business decision, and would only have postponed the inevitable.

    • ze moo

      While After Earth may be a bad investment, it is not by any means a turkey yet. It appears to have made its production and marketing costs back and everything it makes from today on should be profit. Hollywood ‘profit’ and the accounting term ‘profit’ may have a different definition.

      If Will and Jada didn’t pony up for more contributions, it is more likely because their kids are past the 6-9 grade ages the school catered to. The school has been in operation for 5 years or so and it should not be dependent on donations to keep running. A small school population that was still falling appears to be cause of this implosion. LA has several private schools that compete with the clam middle school. It appears they just couldn’t keep enough students to stay afloat.

      I would like to see test scores, typically the ‘no child left behind’ years of 6 to 9th grade get a lot of standardized tests. The only way to kill Lroon teaching tech is to prove it is crap,

      • J. Swift

        IMO, the larger problem with both the school and After Earth is not the money.

        I know several very wealthy people who fund expensive money-losing projects for the sole reason that they have a passion for these projects. Jay Leno’s car collection is incredibly expensive. However, he he loves his cars and pumps a great deal of cash into his passion.

        If Will loved the school he could fund it forever with an endowment. If Will’s real interest was to only create a small and exclusive school for his own children that he exclusively controlled, then the school was only ever a temporary throwaway project,

        The larger problem is Will Smith’s future viability as a big name movie star, particularly if he is tagged as a Scientologist. Hollywood is already asking aloud if Brad Pitt, Will Smith, and Tom Cruise are even viable anymore for big budget films. It is usually too late when Hollywood starts talking out loud that way.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    I am at the back end of the comments and I suspect almost no one will read this. That is OK.

    I thought the staff video was cute. Students do videos like that every day. School announcements start the day now with cute little video clips like that. There is a film arts teacher and they work it into the program.

    Randy Newman music is often sardonic or cynical. You can’t tell what he really means with Rednecks, Sail Away, Short People or The ELO Song, except they are more than they seem to be. I don’t know what the LA song is about but it is likely more than an enthusiastic anthem for LA or Scientology. He is one of the best song writers alive.

    Maybe the problem is that the Scientologist mummies and daddies simply don’t want the Scientology schools anymore. Maybe they have finally read about how bad the standardized test scores are in their schools and are running. Maybe so many have left the cult that there aren’t enough little cherubs to fill the classes anymore. Maybe the initial glitz of going to a Will Smith school has worn off.

    Whatever the case, it is a win/win/win/win/win situation for kids, the public school system, the parents, the teachers who if qualified will pursue work elsewhere and the critical community who can see that another brick has been taken out of the Scientology wall.

    May their stupid educational method, whatever it is called, rot in hell with everything else that was created by L.Ron Hubbard and his minions.

    • aquaclara

      “May their stupid educational method, whatever it is called, rot in hell with everything else that was created by L.Ron Hubbard and his minions.”
      A spot-on epitaph for this school….

    • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

      I think Randy Newman and that song rock although i have a deep and endurinf hatred of LA now. i think they didn’t get permission to use it. I think Randy could take issue with that if he chose to. I think that is now a moot point. Guess what? Someone read your comment.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        Thanks, Valerie. I don’t know that song beyond hearing it in the clip. I think that there is no better popular song writer than Randy Newman. Stealing the song is wrong but in the context of a school making an amateur video, it would be fairly innocent. Scientology is so protective of their own material that you think they might show similar respect for other people’s. They don’t. Thank you for reading the comment. As much as I loathe the cult of Scientology, if the clip were presented by the teachers of my kids’ school, I would probably think them to be creative, positive and fun individuals. Even Scientologists don’t pollute each and every situation they are in. These people made an OK amateur video. I just wanted to go on record saying that, even if I was comment #102.

    • Espiando

      If they wanted to go full-on with Randy Newman, how about a montage of pictures of Hubtard with a backing track of “You’ve Got A Friend In Me”? At least they would have been honest.

      And “I Love LA” is a love/hate song to the city, although it tends to be more misinterpreted than “Born In The USA” (viz. its universal use by LA sports teams). In other words, typical Randy Newman.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        Oh, good! Thanks, Espiando. I thought it might be, though I don’t know the song beyond hearing it here. I am trying to think of a good anthem for the critical movement. I can’t think of one. But a friend once suggested, My Life, by Phil Ochs. It isn’t perfect, but a lot of it is very close. Here is the most relevant part.

        My life was once a flag to me
        And I waved it and behaved like I was told.
        My life was once a drag to me
        And I loudly, and I proudly, lost control
        I was drawn by a dream
        I was loved by a lie, every serf on the scene
        Begged me to buy.
        But I slipped through the scheme
        So lucky to fail
        My life was not for sale.

        • sharon brown

          It fits pretty well ! * as Big Blue falls down in the background * I hope more will open their eyes and flee before the total collapse of COS does anymore damage to their psyche …

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            I found it on youtube, Sharon. It is a great song. I don’t know if there are many Phil Ochs fans on this message board but if there are they can find a song that echos Scientology here, with music, pictures and lyrics.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZJ0p03Yg_Q

            • Missionary Kid

              Phil was a great chronicler of folk and rock and roll, as well as a voice to be heard. I seem to remember seeing a lot of photographs that are attributed to him.

              The world misses him. RIP.

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              Near the end of his life he played in Toronto at a place called the Riverboat. It was two blocks from the cult offices. He knew about Scientology but as far gone as he was, he had no interest in Hubbard’s wisdom. A few months ago there was a photo up at this site which was owned by Michael Ochs, his manager and brother. Small world isn’t it. In keeping with the Will Smith theme, far less than Six Degrees of Separation.

            • Missionary Kid

              Since he was diagnosed as being bipolar, I don’t think Co$ would have wanted him. They only want the neurotic, because they really can’t handle people with real problems, unless they have a LOT of money, and even then, they suck ‘em dry and dump ‘em.

            • FistOfXenu

              Thanks Korgo. Love Phil Ochs.

            • Missionary Kid

              When the Phil Ochs video was played, there was an ad for Co$ along side of it, so I clicked on it, because that means more money that they have to pay Google.

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              Great! I’m there!

              EDIT– Not me. I got an ad for an audio book.

            • sharon brown

              Awesome ,thanks! Wasn’t familiar with him but I love music and deep lyrics !

    • MarionDee

      At the very least–and I say this as a short person–”Short People” works as a very nice jeer at the COB. (“Short people/got not reason to live.”)

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        I laughed at that one! I try to not to let his height enter the equation but in that case, it’s pretty funny.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          LOL, I don’t think anyone here truly has a problem with short people.
          But if we have learned anything from the Sciloons….”Find the ruin”
          hehehe

  • Real Shellback

    Wait -wait…

    Were they trying to do the Shorewood Lip-dub?
    http://youtu.be/T7TI-AJi2O8

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Ain’t got nothin’ on this: http://www.wimp.com/dancingqueen/

    I’ll just leave that here….

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      i wish you hadn’t. that there is a serious engram.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      I made it the 24th second.
      I CANNOT unsee that shit MLT!!!!
      You are so out ethics!

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Sorry BTN2 and PTBA2, I guess my sense of humor is somewhat skewed even from those who have a skewed sense of humor.

        I’m just in awe of the non-linear thought process that could envision this, let alone take it all the way to its ultimate completion.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Fed ex me some eye bleach (and a case of Oregon pinot noir) and we will call it even!

    • Captain Howdy

      great…instant D.T’s

  • Mary_McConnell

    Bad investment on so many levels… good riddance!

  • Chocolate Velvet

    Well, this is a step in the right direction. Now, if they would next make it their business to repudiate scientology and the study “tech” altogether. You know, admit it is bullshit and they were wrong to endorse it in any way at all.

    Oh wait, narcissists don’t do that. These two do seem pretty deeply in love with themselves. Just like TC, JT, Kirstie, Jenna and all the rest of those noble “opinion leaders”.

    Never mind then. Carry on, Hollywood, carry on.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      They will likely do that as fast as Krusty steps up and repudiates NarCONon.

    • Gerome

      It’s always been a puzzle to me about Will Smith. He should be more than smart enough to see through the malignant cult and it’s defective/evil products (like Study Tech). But you are right, there is probably an element of narcissism. I doubt he is used to being told he’s wrong about anything. I guess in this context, it makes sense for him to just gradually reduce his donations.

      • Missionary Kid

        In $cientology, there isn’t any intelligence in one’s choices. Someone pointed out that intelligent people are easier to fool with “magic,” because they’re always looking for complex answers.

        Going in to Clamland, the emotions are appealed to, and the programming begins. There’s no connection between emotion and intelligence, and emotions are shaped by the brainwashing, trapping a person on the hamster wheel called the bridge.

        • Gerome

          I agree with what you say, but Smith isn’t really a clam, he just gives them money. He’s not indoctrinated like Cruise/Travolta. Also. he’s not an idiot like Cruise/Travolta.

          • Missionary Kid

            Well, then, who is in the family? Someone is, and I would say there’s a lot of people here who believe he is, particularly when he and his kid use $ci-speak in public appearances.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Have you witnessed his recent interviews? He is definitely an Idiot!!!

            • Missionary Kid

              Clam or idiot, that is the question. I choose both.

            • Gerome

              I think he got in to a pre-engineering program at MIT, and was regarded as an excellent student.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Statistics say that “nothing” is 100%.
              Intelligence and being an excellent student are not mutually inclusive.
              Ditto the reverse.

              And NO, Einstein did not fail Math in high school. That is an urban legend and also not my argument.

            • Gerome

              Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole

            • BuryTheNuts2

              He should have been for at least 8 of those shitty cubist paintings.
              But his sketches rocked!

            • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

              He used to be a charismatic, smart-seeming guy. Then Scientology got its hooks into him.

          • pronoia

            Um. Are you certain about that?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I think he’s a Beverly Hills Boutique shopper of woowoo. In scientology for the Not Famous, that would get you barred from entering. You can only play inside One bubble, and this is what is called an Open Mind, where you dabble in mutliple bubbles, which are not as easy to control. He’s a boutique believer of all things bubbly.

          • sugarplumfairy
            • Gerome

              That video is pretty damning, it sounds like he just stepped off a 2 week tour on the Freewinds!

              That said, it was 6 years ago. I just think he is smarter than that, and I have no clue why I’m defending the guy!

            • sugarplumfairy

              You could be right.. I hope he’s figured out its a scam..

    • BuryTheNuts2

      LOVE AV CV!!!

      • Chocolate Velvet

        Thanks, hon! It was time for a change.

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    I’m glad they just shut the doors rather than repeat what happened in Dunedin, Florida… that caused quite the upset until they were finally shut down (at least I think so): http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/pinellas-school-superintendent-wants-scientology-tied-charter-school-closed/1217694
    Then again, more media exposure of this is never a bad thing.

  • Artoo45

    I guess ol’ Will and Jada are on a tighter budget after After Earth.

    • Bella Legosi

      Hope he had to see that obsenely large trailer he bought for MIB3. The one where he fucked traffic in NYC?

  • Valkyries

    I thought that video of the NVLA educators was quite well done. The music was good, and the choreography and cinematography were terrific.

    • Anonymookme

      Of course you do.

    • TonyOrtega

      I am told that very few, if any, of these staff members are Scientologists. To me, this looks like the kind of thing that a fun bunch of teachers might put together at any sort of school. The only controversial thing about the school, as far as I can tell, is that the Smiths decided to use Study Tech.

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        … and Ethics Tech.

        • TonyOrtega

          Yes, that was a troubling report from the former teacher. True.

        • Gerome

          Study Tech involves scientology ethics. A teacher is empowered to attribute misbehaviour to a misunderstood scientology concept. Imagine if a child was reprimanded for tossing a paper airplane, and the penalty was to look up scientology words for the rest of the day. Talk about indoctrination!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Yes, which includes the greatest good for the greatest number. It’s right there in their promo pieces. They expect they kids to be world leaders. This isn’t a college. Kids want to be SuperMan, but the Pretend Super Man, Not a real super man.

          Why do they need to raise a Lot of $ for an expensive trip to learn organic farming in Hawaii when California is loaded with organic farming? Why is their Facebook page a constant barrage of Fundraising? It’s an awful lot of stress to dump on an 8 year old.

          Parents who shell out serious money for early education private schools expect creativity and an abundance of extracurricular activities, field trips, music, arts, sports, specialty skills, innovative learning methods, alternative approaches to education. That is what so insidious and flaming frustrating with scientology front groups: There Are those good benefits in some groups here and there, although not consistently.

          That is the bait. The higher the price tag, the greater the amount of bait. I don’t know this particular school’s full curriculum, so it may go lighter on the heavy ethics, but there is no way it is missing. You can’t do scientology without the ethics. Again, I would like to hear more parents’ views of how their children reacted, and it will be interesting to see if they will have to go back a year (or more for older students) if they go to regular schools next season. That might be another reason why there was no adequate notice.

      • BigBangBaby

        I think they did allow it in the beginning, but later decided to move away from it. Unfortunately, once you’re painted with that brush, it tends to stick.

        • Gerome

          It’s not unfortunate. If there is a snowball’s chance in hell that Study Tech was introduced at a school, parents should RUN screaming.

        • disqus_RRMJFmOCva

          Ah BBB, NVLA did not move away from study tech or scientology. If anything they moved toward it. Look at what happened to the teachers who did not, would not, teach to these methods and look at who was hired to replace them. Look at the names on Ms. Piano’s facebook repost:
          https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/yearly-update-on-new-village-leadership-academy.107117/page-2
          There is more here and it will come out.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Val,
      I totally missed the invader force last night!
      I sad!

      • stillgrace

        But you exited the Bunker with blazing style!!

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I know.
          Papa says I can’t have Port no more!!!!
          Like, ever!

    • Captain Howdy

      ???

  • http://www.angrygaypope.com/ Angry Gay Pope

    As someone who deliberately got arrested protesting the Santa Monica Delphi Academy I could not be happier at this failure.

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6EA6D29523699B6A

    I also love that Will Smith wasted all that money AND had a flop of a scientology-tainted movie AFTER EARTH in one summer alone :)

    • Gerome

      I am ecstatic that Will Smith wasted all that money!! Now, there are fewer vulnerable people he can hurt with his misguided/ill informed philanthropy. It would have harmed so many children if the school had a stable endowment.

    • Sherbet

      That’s two strikes against Will Smith in a short time span. I wonder what his third strike will be.

      • media_lush

        the rumoured boyfriend sells to the tabloids

        • Sherbet

          You two are meaner than I am!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Um, yeah…we know.

        • Gerome

          I’m not sure that would be a strike against him

      • BuryTheNuts2

        He finds out the only “patterns” he is really good at following are licking Jada’s boots?

        • pronoia

          Haha. Funny that he went out on the publicity tour claiming that he could predict academy awards based on past performance. Apparently he did not think his pattern recognition skills applied to his own director!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Ouch!
            But HAHAHAHA!

      • Gerome

        Strike 3: 2008 donations from Will Smith

        $68,000 for New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Fund, for 9/11 responders

        $50,000 for the Celebrity Center in Hollywood

        $5,000 to “ABLE.”

        • BuryTheNuts2

          $230,000,000.00 to the Jayden Smith Nepotism Project.

          • pronoia

            As the NY Times reviewer of the latest Will and Jaden film school project said (and I paraphrase): there was a time when Hollywood movie stars bought their kids eensove cars, nowadays they buy them vanity movie roles.

      • FistOfXenu

        The sequel to Battlefield Earth?

    • Sidney18511

      Maybe all the scion schools will now begin topple like dominos. You do GREAT work AGP!

    • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

      My only hope is that more of the wasted money went to people who put it back into the community through consumerism or away for future through saving or investing. To have it go to people to just re-enrich the {Church}, if not the {Church} itself, seems like a word more potent than “waste” is needed.

  • I am

    I wonder why this school was closed. I wonder why Bonnie Bishop’s Apple Schools were closed down. I wonder why all the successful Missions were closed down. What happened to Bonnie? What happened to all those successful Mission holders? Has no one cognited on the cause? I mean, has no one IN the church found the why for this suppression?

    • Gerome

      Far as I can tell, Will Smith stopped giving them money. That seems to be the explanation.

      • I am

        We made money on our own and made money for the church in these endeavors. Still, they shut us down. Did they cut off their foot to spite their face?

        • Gerome

          I don’t think they need any help spiting their face.

  • Observer

    This isn’t *exactly* was was asked for in the previous blog post, but hey, I have to follow my muse.

    • Captain Howdy

      Thanks O. And your muse is magnificent as always.

    • Sherbet

      Genius, Observer.

    • stillgrace

      You are too funny, Observer!

      If your muse ever revisits the aforementioned request from the last blog post, this might get you started.

      Full size HD quality original available on page 32 of WWP’s DM shoop thread. I’ll look up the exact link for you when I return from a family errand, if requested.

      • Observer

        Impressive, and impressively disturbing

        • stillgrace

          I tried to find you some raw footage of someone beating someone with a dead rabbit, but had no luck. Had a few laughs while looking.

          • Observer

            I’d be scared to look!

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            glad that didn’t work out

    • BuryTheNuts2

      You are fucking GENIUS!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thank you! I Need that!

      • Observer

        Happy to be of service. And it’s so much fun it feels like it should be illegal. Haha!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          One technical question, very important. What is DM standing on so he can peek through the window?

          • stillgrace

            Lou.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              hahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahah

              well, that explains why she can’t have shoulder length hairdo’s.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Go GRACE!!!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            BAAHAAA

          • Observer

            The bushes you can see faintly in the background lead me to believe the window is at ground level so, for once in his life, he doesn’t have to stand on anything.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Okay, then where are his …oh never mind. I’m still doubled over at stillgrace’s answer.

            • Observer

              I just now saw it–Disqus was hiding it from me. Brilliant!

    • pronoia

      Oh. Jeezus. That is way too funny. I think you may really actually have outdone yourself!

    • Captain Howdy

      The Sean Young bit was inspired.

      • Observer

        That’s why I love the Bunker. No matter how obscure the reference, someone will always get it!

        • BuryTheNuts2

          We are such GEEKS!!!!

          • Missionary Kid

            Not necessarily geeks. Well read and aware of the general culture. At least you guys are.

          • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

            Beware geeks bearing {gifts} …

      • Sherbet

        Who’s the AV, Howdy?

        • Captain Howdy

          Mr. Lovecraft…my mentor.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Sean Young is my kinda crazy.

        I still can’t believe she super-glued James Woods penis to his leg.
        snorts

        • Couch_Incident

          I still have a crush on Rachel the replicant.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            So do I…shit!
            She was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO perfect!

            Of course I have been trying for thirty years to aquire Daryl Hannahs NUTCRACKER thighs too.

            sigh…life is just not fair……………

            • Couch_Incident

              Just don’t get Pris’ crazy hair at the end.

              So, I’m still trying to figure out the new avatar – 80′s porn star?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              My Av?

              HAVE YOU RAPED A BABY lately?

              Hint.

            • Couch_Incident

              OK, got it, thanks! She looks better there than she usually does.

            • Gerome

              Elfman, the girl whom I used to think was hot, until I started hating her guts

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Too bad too.
              I think she is a comedic genius.
              So much talent in the COS….can you imagine if it was not encumbered by all that shit shoved in their brains…
              Sigh.

            • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

              What’s the baby reference? This may be a news story I missed.

            • Missionary Kid

              I read the story it was based on, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep years ago. The movie is one hell of a great interpretation. It’s one of the few that really gets the author’s vision, IMO.

              As much as I hate to admit it, I, Robot is pretty faithful to Asimov’s robot stories. I thought the special effects got out of hand at the end.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Both good books.
              And both good movies. (Bladerunner was better than I Robot…IMHO)

              Just don’t do too many comparisons and you are good.

            • Missionary Kid

              I agree on the relative merits of the films. Unfortunately, the ending of Total Recall, which was also based on a Phillip K. Dick story, sucked. Verhoeven is a good director, but I think he blew it. It has much of the same feel as Bladerunner to start.

              When I read the original stories from Asimov, they were only about 5 years old. (I, Robot, Caves of Steel, etc.) I also stumbled into his Foundation trilogy. I never read the later Foundation books. Maybe I will, now.

            • Gerome

              The Foundation books are awesome. Definitely worth finishing.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I’ve read the whole interconnected Asimov universe several times as well as the Duniverse(both orig and new) and while I enjoy both, Asimov was just such a cheeseball compared to Herbert.

            • Gerome

              I was going to say the opposite. I read the whole dune series first, liked asimov. I still love the Dune, in the later books I just lost the ability to suspend disbelief

            • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

              I wonder how Herbert would have fared creating a religion out of his concepts vs. poor LRH. Whether it would be Butlerian anti-technology, Bene Gesserit mind/body control, or Tleilaxu geneticism ….

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ha! What an idea….even this atheist could almost get sucked into one of those. And even Herbert had his Orange Catholic Bible which was really just an amalgamation of agree upon bits from all the major religions.

              I think that I can guarantee that the {scripture} would have been infinitely more readable.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Oh…total agreement from me on Total Recall. (didn’t see the remake)

            • Missionary Kid

              Me neither. It was a poor imitation, I understand.

            • Gerome

              It sucked, none of the fun mars stuff

            • Missionary Kid

              I started to read science fiction in about 1953. I was about 8. I read through about 8 linear feet of the children’s books, then started to read in the adult section. The kindly librarian let me check them out when I had a juvenile card. By the time I finished high school, I’d read nearly all of the ones in that section, plus the subscriptions to Astounding and Fantasy and Science Fiction every month.

              The film technology has finally caught up with the stories, but good science fiction is about people, not gadgets.

            • Gerome

              True, that’s why Star Wars remains king. 2001 is great (and superior in many ways), it just takes some patience to get through. And I have oodles of patience when fine music accompanies fine cinematography.

            • Missionary Kid

              Star Wars was space opera, but well done. It was a homage to the serials of the 30s and 40s.

              Spaceships and fighters don’t move like that. I just checked my brain at the door and enjoyed them.

            • Missionary Kid

              I was a fan of Chester Bonnistall, who did the artwork for 2001. The two really can’t be compared, because they are a generation apart.

              I agree that 2001 can seem to be too long, but when it was done, the visual effect was so radical that it was a hallmark in film, and it is not a shoot-em-up. I was about 23 when I first saw it. I’d also read the short story it was based on: Sentinel, years before.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I own very few movies, but 2001 gets an annual viewing at my house. Usually alone cause it bores my friends to sleep.

              See here for a bunch of great production stills of classic films. 2001 and Blade Runner near the bottom. I love the shot of Stanley C and Stanley K together.

              http://io9.com/stunning-behind-the-scenes-photos-show-iconic-movies-in-512190237

            • Missionary Kid

              Wow! That was a fun site. The comments were fun, too.

            • Gerome

              Bladerunner is still one of my faves. Sentimental choice.

            • Couch_Incident

              DADOES was great, but in a different way, emphasizing that the replicants could go through the motions, but weren’t human as they lacked empathy (reminds me of those in the throes of Scn…).

              Blade Runner, on the other hand, made you identify with the slave replicants who were “more human than human.”

              For all you other geeks out there, here’s a link to some great polaroids owned by Sean Young from the filming: http://www.retronaut.com/2011/06/blade-runner-polaroids-by-sean-young-1981/

            • BuryTheNuts2

              WHOA. AWEsome pics. God she was so beautiful!
              Great site. bookmarked. Thanks so much.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              what a kewel site! please forgive me for this, but young stalin was kinda hot and baby jimi hendrix is so cute.

          • Gerome

            Me too. Hope she never had an expiration date.

  • Garry Scarff

    This ditz is a great example why NVLA closed it’s doors forever.. bye..bye..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUZTGWUQn6k

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yeah. Lets not teach them the ‘facts’.
      Why do that when we can teach them our clay demo’d, tried and true for you…”concepts”.
      I didn’t make it too far Smurf….
      I didn’t need to before I threw up in mouth a little.

      BTW…Scion eyes!!!!!

      • Sherbet

        She says the student will forget the dates and facts, but they’ll take away the “concept” if history is taught the NVLA way. Historical events aren’t “concepts.” Events ARE dates and facts. Philosophy is a subjective concept. Something happened. When? How? Who was there? Why did it happen? Ah, phooey, I give up. The school place is closed; end of rant.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I feel ya Sherbet.
          Et dans le lune!!!

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          Someone refresh my memory please…. I recall a story where someone got roped into sitting in on one of the Introductory Films and there was a Scion teenager “babysitting” the wog in the theatre. After the movie, they were discussing history (way back history) and the kid was blaming everything on Big Pharma…

        • Observer

          That’s what happens when you have a school started and supported by a “physicist at heart.”

          • Sherbet

            Physicist at heart, big blowhard by certification.

        • stillgrace

          You are right about this, Sherbet. A good teacher takes the dates and facts and brings them to life. Or as my cat says: (image below)

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Have you watched any of the “Cat Diaries” on YouTube?
            EPIC.

            • stillgrace

              I’ve watched many cat videos, not sure if I’ve seen these … something to check out. Thanks.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Oh do…gut busters!!!!
              One of my employees sent them to me.
              She is getting a fat raise for that shit.

            • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

              If that’s what is required for a raise from you, please tell me where to send my resume. I’m sure I can spend all day scouring the Internet finding the best of the best for you or even creating it if needed.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Can I work for you? I’d get some phat raises all the time then. The narrator of the cat diaries really makes it.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      Oh yeah, I want the scientology teachers to give my kids a “lens” on power and leadership. Screw the facts.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        How much you wanna bet their “lesson on Power” is Hubbard’s “Simon Bolivar” issue?

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        Oh, Tony mentioned that not all of the teachers are Scions. But still…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thank you, Gary! Sometimes I feel like Debby Downer Sour Grapes, but This is typical. Wasn’t Will Smith talking about seeing patterns through a lens? Or was it math that wasn’t really math? And this teacher in the video is looking furtively down a lot, and when she looks straight at you, she looks like she’s going to burst out weeping.

      Also, I looking to see if I could spot any “covert op recording pens” on the desks that parent mentioned in his/her complaint. Anyone? Burlwood or otherwise?

      • BuryTheNuts2

        She also blinks a LOT!!!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Maybe it was Morse Code for “help me outta here”

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Oh now why did you say that. MY OCD is gonna kick in and I am going to go watch that and try to break the code like with the AGP subliminal “Captain Howdy AV implant”.

      • Sherbet

        I noticed the intro showed kids with headphones, grinning, talking, gesturing…no classroom pictures, study at computers, books, or figures on a whiteboard. In other words, none of the images that suggest learning, study, or scholarship.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          it is like the “Sudbury Schools”.
          DO NOT Google this unless you are a masochist or so far to the left that your brains leaked out…………

          • Sherbet

            I did Google it. //rolling my eyes//

    • pronoia

      What idiocy. If you want kids to remember history, then all you have to do is make interesting. Like tell it as a really good story. Not as a list of facts and dates.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        But please include those facts and dates…otherwise we have a huge fail….

        • pronoia

          Context my dear. Is what makes history interesting. And curious kids love dates times and places for that very reason

          • BuryTheNuts2

            I agree!

    • Sandy

      What???

    • Gerome

      Yikes. I’ll take “boring” facts over a stupid teacher any day.

    • Proud to be an SP

      Oh no. If that is the caliber fo the teachers, no wonder they closed down, This is about as lame as I have ever seen. What about discussions, projects, story telling, debates, skits, critical thinking… lots of ways to bring history to life. It sounds like they give them a lecture about power and then a list of dates and then?

    • sugarplumfairy

      O.m.g…. We looked at the Aztecs and the um..um..um.. Spanish through the lens of power and leadership.. And then we did clay models of the Spanish slaughtering the Aztecs, but not until we word-cleared ‘slaughter..’. And then we made clay models of ashtrays.. And then we screamed at them through the lens of power and leadership..

      In 7th grade I was taught history by Sr. Joseph Claire who was over 70 and who fell asleep every day halfway through class.. She was more interesting and informative than this young lady will ever be as long as she’s teaching the co$ way.. She needs to get a real teaching job..

      • Sherbet

        Great post, sugarplum. I’m laughing here.

    • Robert Eckert

      She has the verbal tic of turning her sentences into questions: we teach children the… concepts? from a certain… perspective? That tends to indicate serious uncertainty, at best.

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    Off topic…. I see that the creator of the mouse has died. Will the Sea Ogres at Project Mouse Table do a tribute of some kind?

    • Sherbet

      COB don’t need no stinkin’ mouse. He’ll just slide some unfortunate human being along the mouse table and make him push the keys.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Oh you mean with his nose like LRH did on the Apollo with his staff when he made them push a peanut around the deck???

        • pronoia

          I did not know this story. What a fucked up asshole was LRH.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Oh yeah, everything Dave learned….he learned from his master.

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        By the way, if anyone ever unearths OTVIII’s original posting about Project Mouse Table from the Voice, please let me know!

    • pronoia

      Awe. Talk about genius.

    • Captain Howdy

      Most people have never heard of the guy who invented the mouse.

      But a lot of them have heard of L Ron Hubbard,

      This is why…I drink.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        This is why you drink?
        I do it because I just love to get shitfaced.
        its fun.

        • Gerome

          But then you miss the Marcabian raids!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Yeah, that part does suck.
            I love the Marcabian Commander!!!

            • Gerome

              His looks must surely reflect his aggressive but playful and intelligent demeanor

            • BuryTheNuts2

              She.

            • Gerome

              ??

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Marcabian Commander is a she.
              Or are you talking about something else?

            • Gerome

              LOL are you kidding me? How did you get this inside info!!!!

            • stillgrace

              I think she’s half Marcabian.

            • Sherbet

              I missed the fly-by, too. Are you talking about Valkyrie, and is that the infamous Val?

            • Gerome

              Well I have some inside info too, and it conflicts with yours:)

              Edit: this post was directed at BTN

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Interesting!!!

              Hey, I am wrong all the time.
              And now I am just trying to figure YOU out.

            • Gerome

              So, u are wrong about the gender of Marcabia

            • BuryTheNuts2

              You tell me Gerome?

            • Gerome

              Pretty sure its a guy

            • BuryTheNuts2

              You ought to know!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              This is number 3. I am not telling you what 1 and 2 are. And then there is 4 and 5 in the game of clue!

    • Jon Hendry

      Apparently he was more into est.

  • Observer

    This article is already listed in the footnotes of the Wikipedia article for the school. Gotta love the internet!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Village_Leadership_Academy

    • Gerome

      Sweet. Tony is reference #1 of 35 !!

    • Missionary Kid

      The entry is a kick-ass indictment of the school, IMO, even though it’s balanced. Suri no longer attends there, of course, so Tommy girl probably isn’t donating, or has cut way back.

  • Bella Legosi

    The Will Smith School for Future Kool Aid Drinkers………..has LOVE?????

    *doing the best Captain Binghemton voice*
    What?
    What?
    What?

    {{Love? This must have been an out-tech school! Love has no value on the Tone Scale! No wonder they went out of buisness!}}

    • Bella Legosi

      Also if I was one of those kids, I would hold that shit over my parents FOREVER!

      “Hey mom/dad? Remember when you put me in that school that ended up being run by a cult? Can I have my new car now? Or should I start talking to walls again?”

      LOL

      • BuryTheNuts2

        My Mother has been dead for 24 years and I am still planning on holding “word clearing” over her head when I get the chance.

        And I am an atheist!

        But just in case….I Intend to bring a Dictionary to Hell!

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          And don’t forget your towel.

          • Gerome

            A towel is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have.

        • Bella Legosi

          ha ha I fully intend on holding up the line, should I get that far (and if there is even a line to hold up). I will be one of the few brave souls that will demand representation and fair hearing. They will have to go line by line on all the blasphamous shit I have spewed over the years (I was pretty rotten as a teen) and of course when it comes time to defend my actions in life……well, let’s just hope Johnny Chochran kicks the bucket before me, cuz I will need a damn good lawyer!

    • Observer

      These new arrows are freakin’ me out, man.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        There are new arrows?

        • Captain Howdy

          She be tripping.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Yep!

          • Observer

            You know, when those popped up the thought actually crossed my mind that I should take a screenshot. Sigh.

        • Observer

          Whoa … there were. They were big triangles, but now they’re gone.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Here O….have a cookie!!!!

          • Gerome

            The big 3-D triangles that danced around the screen?

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Too much shoop, not enough fresh air. Clear your pixels and come back later.

  • SciWatcher

    So is there something in the billion year contract that stipulates that members must make stupid videos?

    • Missionary Kid

      It’s just a run of the mill video that looks like a vanity project.

      • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

        For people who don’t understand this doesn’t make them look vain … just stupid ….

        • Missionary Kid

          It’s a kiddie home movie.

  • BigBangBaby

    This is laughable. First of all, maybe one person in that video is a scientologist. The rest are normal folk goofing around in school video.

    Secondly, that school hasn’t used any form of “study teck” or “ethics” in at least 5 years. That information is bogus and outdated.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Kisses dear.

      But “bigbangbaby” is kinda cute.

      • BigBangBaby

        :^)

      • stillgrace

        I thought “BigBangBaby” sounded familiar. They’re playing tonight at Martell’s Tiki Bar in Point Pleasant, New Jersey.
        http://www.bigbangbaby.com/

        • BigBangBaby

          I play the tambourine.

          • stillgrace

            Only groupies play the tambourine.

            • BigBangBaby

              I didn’t say what I played it with….

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      and you know this because…?

      • BigBangBaby

        Because I do.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Great Av!!!

          • BigBangBaby

            I like your name too.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        PTBA….don’t be a meanie!

        • Captain Howdy
          • PreferToBeAnon2

            are you a scarit i’ll take your lunch money? what’s this meanie thang?

            • Captain Howdy

              Do you remember yesterdays “meanie’ exchange? You guys are being trolled by “Valkyries” aka Marcabian Commander aka The Riddler, who is a lulz troll.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Hehehe!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I think ” Peace Theta” is still one of my favorites.

              You know, as far as sox go…

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              think i faded about that time… geez the trolls seem to becoming out lately which is always a good sign

            • Captain Howdy

              Yeah, but they’re not scilons.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              ahh then no point in toying with them… they are just normally fucked up

            • Captain Howdy
            • PreferToBeAnon2

              I think you should have given the link to BBB, he could learn something

            • BuryTheNuts2

              This is our only consistent troll.
              Flybys under a new sox each time.
              Just likes to mess with us for a bit.
              BTW….our troll is anti Scion.

              Just likes to goose us now and again.

              Oh, that would be a Canuck Goose!!!

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              speaking of Canucks (and those who understand its geography), where is John P?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              He has been lurking.

            • Gerome

              He posted a ton yesterday

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              Must have missed it. As long as he or one of his supermodels didn’t choke on a lamprey or something…

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Shit, now that is Sushi I wouldn’t even eat!

            • Captain Howdy

              Where?

            • Gerome

              (Nevermind, I’ve said too much already)

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I’m putting on my Sherlock Holmes hat.

            • Gerome

              Don’t, plz

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Too late…I’ve got theories, but my lips are sealed. Sometimes the truth of knowingness is no fun.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              This is fun isn’t it!

            • Gerome

              Canuck was the one who decoded the names when Marcabian Commander used encryption, but that was back at the Village Voice

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Good memory!

            • Gerome

              Here long time have been. Fun had, much.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Obviously! Now were you lurking or under a different name? ( not asking the name)

            • Gerome

              Many names, had we.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Ah! I see.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              That’s right! I recall now. He was pretty good at that.

            • Captain Howdy

              Dam!..and i thought i had a good memory for a reprobate. If you ever want to team up for detective work, let me know.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              No, I suck! I have been had….yet again!

              I am dumber than a stump sometimes!

      • stateofcircle

        BECAUSE I MAKE IT SO!
        bwhahahahaha

      • SP ‘Onage

        Drum roll…Because it’s a “Big Bang Theory,”… ba dum tss!

    • TonyOrtega

      From the current website (copyright 2013):

      “Often students (and adults as well) lose interest and stop paying attention when they get lost in explanations filled with words they do not understand. So many students think they are terrible in math; has the teacher ever defined words such as factor, geometry or exponent? Teachers therefore are trained to make sure they monitor the children for lack of understanding. Similarly, if the student is learning how to program the robot and comes across a word that he is unfamiliar with, the student must look it up in the dictionary or have the word explained by a teacher. Once the student understands the words related to a concept, there is greater understanding of the entire subject.”

      and

      “Upon completion of a subject chapter such as math, spelling, etc., the teacher sends the student to ‘Qual,’ where he/she is given an exam in various forms. If the student scores anything less than 100%, the Qualifications teacher will sit down with him/her and go over the part of the exam that was not fully understood and check for misunderstood words, skipped gradients and conceptual understanding. This is done to help the student so that they gain 100% certainty.”

      Someone protests too much, apparently.

      • BigBangBaby

        No body has touched that website in years. They probably kept it copy written, but that’s about it.

        • sugarplumfairy

          no scientologists have touched it, anyway.. They’re not allowed on the Internet..

          • BigBangBaby

            No, it’s written in a scientological way, but I think it dates back to the beginning of the school when they allowed it.

    • Gerome

      “Maybe one person in that video is a scientologist. The rest are normal folk.”

      Too funny! Thanks for that!

      • stillgrace

        You’re right! That was the best part!

      • BigBangBaby

        Well….normal in the sense of acting silly in a video.

        • stillgrace

          Too late, pumpkin.

    • Missionary Kid

      Typical $cion bullshit, except it didn’t start out with, “I’m not a $cientologist.”. Deflect, deny, try to state lies that are easily disproven by the school’s promotional material.

      BigBangBaby at lest puts some coherent sentences together, so they probably weren’t raised in a $cion school.

      I’m surprised that there’s only one spelling error.

      No wonder the cult is collapsing, with {smart} people like this.

      • BigBangBaby

        Your online deduction is horrible. Perhaps you should just stick to proof reading people’s post and acting like a spelling Nazi.

        • stillgrace

          that would be “posts”, darlin’.

        • Gerome

          Don’t be mean

        • Missionary Kid

          Of course, you didn’t reply to the essence of my post. You lied.

          I don’t have to be a “spelling Nazi” I’m just pointing out that most $cions have a hard time using the English language. You did very well, thank you.

          • stateofcircle

            You’re totally a stpuid dubm wog, MK, and I don’t apreshiate you’re phsiciatry properganda.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              didn’t need the vagina brackets for that!

            • stateofcircle

              :)

            • Missionary Kid

              BigBangBaby, is that you? ;-)

            • stateofcircle

              I don’t no why you waist you’re time spredding nothing but ridikoolus lies. Im just trying too shair the trooth.

              (You have no idea how long this shit is to type with auto correct.)

            • Missionary Kid

              Ewe maid a valient effurt.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Oh my goodness! You are good!

          • Captain Howdy

            Read this. There will be a test..lol. At least two thirds of the people who showed up on the top 5 anti-scn vids on youtube from 2008-2010 representing themselves as scientologist were in fact FAKE. And i was usually the person who busted them.

            http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179139

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              Love all of those different kinds of trolls but what the fuck is up with that?
              Two-thirds? I believe it.

            • Captain Howdy

              When I first got accused of being a troll on the Meerkat message board in 2007 I had no idea what they were talking about.

              I did some research and it was fascinating. There’s a troll strategy where a group of trolls infiltrate a a comment community over a period of time, perhaps weeks or months, and once they are accepted they start subtlety start turning the original members against each other to the point the community is destroyed. And they do this for the sport of it.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              and they aren’t scions? interesting sport.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              You were on the Meerkat message board?

            • Captain Howdy

              My wife was a fan of the show and when “Shakespeare” got killed by the cobra I was suspicious, so i did some research and discovered that shakesespeare’s death was staged. So i went on the message board and told these people they were being played. They reacted about as well as sceintologists being told that LRH wasn’t a war hero.

            • Missionary Kid

              {{You mean, Hubbard WASN’T a war hero. How can you say that!!}}

            • Bella Legosi

              Doesnt the internet bring out the best in humans?

              I trolled christian chats on AOL rooms back in the mid 90s, but that was back when trolling was in its middle school infancy with me. I dont even think it was called trolling yet. Whatevs, I did it for the lulz.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks.

          • BigBangBaby

            Keep talking out of your ass like you’re in the know – someone is bound to believe you.

            • Missionary Kid

              I keep pointing out that you haven’t done any fact checking. All you do is indulge in ad hominem attacks after making claims you can’t back up.

        • the wrong cranberry

          I’m sorry, I’m still not sure where the “deduction” is happening in that comment. Of course, math never was my strong point.

          • Missionary Kid

            It wasn’t LRHs either, and look, he started his own con, er, {religion}.

            • the wrong cranberry

              I kind of love the invention of this sarcasm font, because it makes me imagine everyone doing the biggest and cheesiest airquotes they can manage.

            • Missionary Kid

              Some people like it, and others don’t. Where it’s handy is where the snark can be so subtle for a newbie not familiar with a particular poster. It also comes in handy when using a term like {Church} in relation to $cientolgy.

              I usually go back to the source of information when I’m online. BBB is either lazy, stupid, or brainwashed.

            • the wrong cranberry

              I’m gonna go with lazy. The whole “missionary” thing? 1/10 for effort. If someone’s gonna troll, they should at least, like, *try*.

            • Gerome

              Or. a troll

            • Missionary Kid

              :-D

            • Captain Howdy

              You’re being trolled by an anti-scientologist play troll, MK.

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s fine. It’s interesting how they love to try to descend into ad hominems. They obviously aren’t very good at it, or they’re good enough to play $cion stupid.

              I don’t care.

            • Gerome

              If this is a troll, its not a good one, or perhaps a first timer.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              Yeah… we used to have some good ones at the VV.

            • Missionary Kid

              It’s O.K., I was killing time.

            • Gerome

              No, don’t get me wrong, we should encourage good trolls

            • Captain Howdy

              Not a good troll? So why is everybody climbing over each other to respond?

            • the wrong cranberry

              I have vodka. idk everyone else’s excuses.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Yeah, but you caught on

              Even with vodka!

              I love a great troll.

            • the wrong cranberry

              I can be bad at that shit? But generally attacking a person’s parents is a bad sign. Even that is hard for me to miss.

            • BigBangBaby

              It’s not like I called her a stuttering whore….geez.

            • Captain Howdy

              You’re excused.

            • the wrong cranberry

              Thank you. :D

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Highfuckinfive

            • BigBangBaby

              I’m being called a troll every few comment, but whatevs…it’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye…….then it’s just funny.

            • BigBangBaby

              Who the fuck are you calling a homo? I’d punch you in your ranch covered face, but I’m afraid I wouldn’t get my fist back.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              Can we stop feeding this one now? He’s not a keeper.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m off to collect some money, so that’s it for tonight..

            • BigBangBaby

              *give money*

              I highly doubt your pimp gives you anything….not with that attitude.

            • Missionary Kid

              You have a good imagination.

            • Missionary Kid

              That was funny, but I gotta go and collect some money.
              Edit: Sweet dreams.

            • Captain Howdy

              When you see what you think is a real scilon, first check the account and see if there are any previous comments. Check the comments and see if they are consistent with scilon lingo and behavior. also run a google scan and see if you can find anything under the name they are using. The rest is experience and gut instinct.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks. I’m learning.

              I’ve had experience on moderated sites where there are people who really believe what they’re writing, and you can tell by their history. I’ve also been involved with some sites where everyone uses their real name. The posts can be quite different.

              I kind of enjoyed dealing with BBB, because I’ve had to deal with some real assholes, and I haven’t bothered for a while.

              I’ve had a lot of experience in debate (after briefly being on my college team), as well as persuasion. I’ve learned not to get involved with flame wars, because my goal isn’t to stir things up, but honest discussion. To do that, I try to stay on point.

              Often times, on avatar based groups, I’ve seen people totally misunderstand the other because of different definitions. Sometimes, both people are actually arguing on the same side. That type of situation would get a $cion to say, “See, LRH’s word clearing would make things better.” I disagree, because English is such a wonderful language when all its flexibility is used.

              There’s also a lot of people who simply don’t read what the other person posted, and are so wrapped up in their own private Idaho and are locked and loaded to give a non sequitur answer to a point not made.

              As much as I hate to quote scripture, “A soft answer turneth away wrath.” It works on the angry types, usually. I’m not a wuss, I just don’t respond to normal assholery.

              I don’t take stuff some anonymous person writes about me personally. They’re ignorant of who I am.

            • Gerome

              I liked your post. Thanks

            • Missionary Kid

              You’re welcome.

            • Captain Howdy

              MK, there’s an Anon saying “teh internets are serious business”

              wax on, wax off

            • Missionary Kid

              “teh”?? I have dyslexic fingers, too. :-)

              What are blogs, but postings of, “To whom it may concern.”

              (Mort Sahl said that’s how Unitarians pray.)

          • BigBangBaby

            Here…this MIGHT help:Noun
            The action of deducting or subtracting something.
            An amount that is or may be deducted from something, esp. from taxable income or tax to be paid.
            Synonyms
            inference – subtraction – conclusion – discount

            • Missionary Kid

              Cranberry got you. :-D

            • the wrong cranberry

              OKAY SO. If MK did no math whatsoever, and the synonyms are goddamn stupid because the meaning of the word “deduce” is so nebulous and multifaceted that no one has known how to use it ever since Sir Arthur Conan Doyle mistook it for “induce,” then X = I am an English major, do not test me.

            • BigBangBaby

              So what you’re saying is that you paid big $$ so that you could correct people on the internet. Hmmmm….seems like a worthwhile expense.

            • the wrong cranberry

              Well, I don’t intend to teach, so I may as well get SOME use out of the fucking thing. And hey, it was still cheaper than going Clear!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Fucking LULZ

            • the wrong cranberry

              tyvm. It’s really best to have a sense of humor about the student debt I’m accumulating, you know?

            • the wrong cranberry

              Have I attracted my VERY OWN DOWNVOTER? I am so pleased.

            • BigBangBaby

              Lol…you’re probably right about that.

            • the wrong cranberry

              You are okay, BBB. I will engage in a faux-battle with you any time.

            • BigBangBaby

              Just here to laugh…nothing serious. It’s only the interwebs after all.

            • the wrong cranberry

              Hey, we all gotta have our fun somehow. There are worse ways than trolling the Internetz.

      • media_lush

        “BigBangBaby”, isn’t that the name Miscavige gave to his ventriloquists doll with Cruise’s head?

        • Missionary Kid

          This guy doesn’t have a clue, does he? Mr. Kool Aid drunk is what he should be called. He can’t even get his facts straight.

          I’m having fun with this turkey.

          • BigBangBaby

            Let’s do this.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Do you have Chardonnay?

            • Gerome

              KJ, in da fridge

            • BigBangBaby

              Yup….I’ve got a big box of it.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Lock and load! I will just watch!

            • Gerome

              LOL

            • BigBangBaby

              New here (like you couldn’t tell) but there has to be a better way to follow these comments. It gets tiring sifting through them all.

              Maybe that’s what the Chardonnay is for?

            • Gerome

              Welcome!

              Sometimes the comment section can get frustrating because you don’t get live updates or posts dont seem right, perhaps some posts are missing.

              First thing to try is to reload your browser (and you will have to manually reload the lower pages in the comment section, it only loads 50-75 comments at a time).

              If that doesn’t work, you can try deleting your browser cache, or installing a different browser. IMHO some days Firefox works better than Chrome, and some days IE works best.

              Nice to have you here!

            • Captain Howdy

              BBB goes back to the VV days.

            • BigBangBaby

              That’s what I’m seeing…way too long to load and find responses.

              I’m bashing my F7 key to reload, but it’s not helping much.
              Thanks, sir…cheers!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Do you have it set for newest posts or best?
              If you set for newest, it is usually easier to follow. At least for me.

            • BigBangBaby

              Let’s see if I can find that….

            • BigBangBaby

              Alright, I set it to newest. You’d better not be punking me.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I would never punk you.
              I would fuck with you though.

              But this ain’t it…lol

            • BigBangBaby

              “fuck fuck”? sounds kinky…and harsh too, but I’m down.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Wise ass!

            • BigBangBaby

              nyuk nyuk nyuk

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              Do you not see the little notification when there is a new comment on the page? For a long while I didn’t see it until I did some troubleshooting with Dicksus.

            • BigBangBaby

              I see it at the top of the page, but if I go up there, it takes a long-ass time to get back down to the comments.

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              it should notify as a banner at both the top and bottom of hte page. when you click it, it takes you right to the new post.

            • BigBangBaby

              The banner at the bottom just says “load more comments”

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              nope… the banner should say X new comments below or X new comments above. You click on that and it will take you right there. Suggest you go over to the disqus help page… there might be something blocking the notifications.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I don’t get that either!

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              seriously? how the hell do you keep up then?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              It is just a freaky gift I guess.

            • Gerome

              Today, Im having success with Firefox. But dont hesitate to delete your browser cache, it works wonders, and make sure the comment section is set on “newest” it defaults to “best” and then my posts will always be at the top, lol

            • Gerome

              DRINK!!!

            • stateofcircle

              Bury has a big box too.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Nuh uh! Dry night….

            • Captain Howdy

              Show us the anti-freeze and the Listerine.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Mr.nuts hid the port.
              I am sober.

              Yawns…..

            • stateofcircle

              Wasn’t talking about the wine…

            • BuryTheNuts2

              HEY!!!

            • q-bird

              Wha?!!! You’re kiddin’ me BTN2!

            • BigBangBaby

              Bwahaha

            • Missionary Kid

              Yup, that’s you. Anteater, with a brain to match.

            • BigBangBaby

              I’d bet 2 wooden nickels you weren’t conceived missionary.

            • stateofcircle

              Anal?

            • Missionary Kid

              I guess he flunked biology, too.

            • BigBangBaby

              Probably…and just a drip made it’s way in.

              I bet that was one pissed hooker.

            • Missionary Kid

              No, I’m a thetan, son of Xenu. BTW, the last part of your sentence doesn’t make sense, “…you weren’t conceived missionary.”

              Like many followers of LRH, as, I I have said before, you seem to have a problem with English.

            • SP ‘Onage

              WTF?

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              don’t ask.

            • SP ‘Onage

              Lmao!

            • stateofcircle

              Asked a legitimate question.

              Answers “because I do.”

              LET’S DO THIS!

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      “Secondly, that school hasn’t used any form of “study teck” or “ethics” in at least 5 years.”

      Hon, the school has barely even been open for 5 years. Do some fact checking. Ooops, Scibots don’t do that–they need a “lens’ first.

  • stateofcircle

    Lampreys –> tse tse flies –> weird tse tse fly disease –> Uganda –> Somalia –> weird terrorist group –> Sharia law –> Muslim polygyny

    This is the Wikipedia hole the Bunker just got me in. I just wasted an hour (or three) of my life.
    Or I learned a shitload of useless facts.

    • Captain Howdy

      All the best facts are useless.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Lampreys are not useless!
      Wait a minute? Are you talking about those “rail” things that we keep jumping?

    • Gerome

      Those rabbit holes are the spice of life. Be thankful to get dragged in to them.

    • Missionary Kid

      Thank goodness, you didn’t have to word clear everything. You’d end up not learning much, because your vocabulary would be stunted.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      I understand about the Bunker-induced rabbit holes… hence, my new AV.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        which btw…Loves it…

      • stillgrace

        I get it now. Awesome.

      • Captain Howdy

        I was wondering, but I didn’t wanna have to be the one to tell you your pic was upside down.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          Nope, you’re the one upside down and looking up Cap’n; I’m fine.

    • Robert Eckert

      People on this board have mentioned that Henry I of England died from eating lampreys, but have not mentioned that the lampreys struck again soon: Henry’s legitimate son died before him (he left about two dozen illegitimate) and he tried to leave the throne to his daughter Empress Maud (widow of the German emperor) but a nephew Stephen the Usurper grabbed it instead, starting a horrid civil war responsible for some good literature (Ellis Peter’s Brother Cadfael books, Sharon Kay Penman’s When Christ and His Saints Slept, and Ken Follett’s Pillars of the Earth; “Cadfael” and “Pillars” have made good TV series as well). After over a dozen years it was finally agreed that Stephen would reign but leave the throne to Maud’s son (Henry II), and this agreement was possible because his eldest son Eustace, groomed to be the heir, choked to death on a plateful of lampreys (after ransacking a monastery for valuables and slaughtering the holy brothers, so it was thought that God was taking a hand). If Eustace had become king, would that be a normal name in the English language to this day, instead of sounding funny?

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        another lamprey story?

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Tony is going to have to start a second “underwater” bunker.

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            Now there is a good idea for a blog: Lampreys in History. Who knew?

      • Espiando

        “Empress Maud” is normally known to history as Matilda; pretty much every female in the Norman ruling family was named Matilda or called themselves Matilda at some point. I’ve never heard her referred to as “Empress Maud”.

        This is also the first time I’ve ever heard Stephen of Blois referred to as “Stephen the Usurper”; Henry I strong-armed his barons into accepting Matilda as heiress after the White Ship disaster, the barons didn’t want to be ruled by a woman, so they turned to the senior heir male of William the Conqueror, who was Stephen. Perfectly acceptable attitude for the time.

        By the way, Stephen’s wife was also called Matilda.

        The death of Eustace, Count of Boulogne by lamprey seems to be an urban legend. But he seemed to have a bad rep when it came to the chroniclers. That tended to happen to people who didn’t hew the line exactly to the Church’s requirements (see Eustace’s uncle William Rufus).

        Robert, I hate to ask this, but is all of your information about the Conquest-to-Anarchy period from popular fiction? There are a number of good reference books available. My good scholarly material about William Rufus and Henry I is buried somewhere in storage, so I can’t make any specific recommendations.

        • Robert Eckert

          Matilda was her legal name, but the people at the time usually called her Maud. Stephen was considered a usurper by Maud’s loyalists at the time because he was one of those who swore to support her, and had been a personal friend of hers so that the treachery stung (he was pushed into it by his mother, one version has it). Of course Stephen also came to be officially labelled a usurper once Henry II and his line were in place (analogously, “popes” who were considered perfectly legitimate at the time have become “antipopes” in the official listing if the rival eventually took over).

          The fact that Stephen’s wife was called Queen Matilda is probably a major reason for the popularity of calling the Empress by the variant “Maud”.

          I don’t know why you call Eustace’s death an “urban legend”. He was indeed very much dead after the Bury St. Edmunds raid, to the great consternation of Stephen’s faction, and you are not proposing an alternate cause of death.

          • Espiando

            I don’t think I’d be very well able to ascribe an exact cause of death for something that happened in 1153, especially since the chronicles went on about divine retribution, but wounds from the Bury raid seem to be a logical cause of death for Eustace. Death By Lamprey is what I was referring to as an urban legend, not the fact that Eustace died.

            Let’s face it, the chroniclers loved to embellish the deaths of famous men if it made their point. A century and a half before Eustace, we had Edmund Ironside. Was he a guy who died because he was exhausted from constant battle against the Danes and sick from infected wounds, or was he a hale and hearty man of 27 who suffered betrayal most foul when he got a sword plunged up his ass while he was sitting on the privy?

            The whole Matilda/Maud thing…she went down in history as the Empress Matilda, so that’s what I tend to call her. As I said, out of the dozen-plus non-fiction books I’ve read regarding Henry I’s reign and the Anarchy, I’ve never seen her referred to as Maud. Then again, the sheer number of Matildas involved with the Normans definitely required some form of differentiation.

            Stephen’s mother was a daughter of William the Conqueror, and that whole family was a wee bit nuts. It’d be no surprise if mommy pushed him into it, but it is a substantiated fact that the barons didn’t like being forced into supporting Matilda as Henry’s heiress. They just didn’t want a queen, especially one who was empress dowager of large swathes of German territory. Also, they would have ended up with Geoffrey Plantagenet as de facto king, and the hatred between Normans and Angevins was long-established. So it’s off to Stephen they went. “Usurper” is Angevin propaganda.

            • Robert Eckert

              “wounds from the Bury raid seem to be a logical cause of death for Eustace” If that were the case, then the chroniclers would say so. I dismiss the talk of God striking him miraculously as propaganda, while accepting the natural cause that we are offered. You want to make up something that no source supports out of your private sense of what is logical: I say DOX OR STFU.

              “Was he a guy who died because he was exhausted from constant battle against the Danes and sick from infected wounds, or was he a hale and hearty man of 27 who suffered betrayal most foul when he got a sword plunged up his ass while he was sitting on the privy?” The people who had firsthand knowledge tell us the latter. Again: DOX OR STFU.

              “she went down in history as the Empress Matilda, so that’s what I tend to call her” And it was her legal name, so I certainly wouldn’t have picked a fight with you over your calling her that, but Empress Maud was what people called her at the time. Would you pick a fight with me over referring to “Prince Harry”, telling me I ought to call him “Henry”?

              “it is a substantiated fact that the barons didn’t like being forced into supporting Matilda as Henry’s heiress” It is a substantiated fact that the barons were split half and half, which made the civil war such a long one.

              “They just didn’t want a queen, especially one who was empress dowager of large swathes of German territory.” As de facto regent while her husband was insane, she had wielded power and earned respect, which is why half of England thought she would do fine as queen. But as widow, with none of the rival claimants to Germany related to her in any way, she had absolutely zero German territory (not “large swathes”).

              ” “Usurper” is Angevin propaganda” They’re the winners.

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    Because folks generally don’t go back to previous Tony posts, I’ll put this here…

    This was posted by Denise Brennan over at Rinder’s:

    Lawrence Wright, in a recent interview at the LBJ Library in Austin,
    said he went to see Tommy in Austin. Knocked on his front door. He said
    Tommy wasn’t thrilled to see him. Tommy said words to the effect of: “My
    position on things hasn’t changed at all.” Disappointing. At http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=mfNRr0w0ufA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmfNRr0w0ufA

    • Missionary Kid

      Tommy had special rules – he’s rich and probably paid the head tax to get out. I’m sorry that he’s not doing PR any more. The fuck-ups were helping shrink Co$.

    • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

      let me just add that maybe now Rinder will understand the frustration many critics feel regarding things that Rinder must have known.

      On a topical note, for instance, how about the marijuana plant at Jesse Prince’s? (plant in two senses :) )

  • HelluvaHoax!

    Yup. Scientology video. Execs “uplines” order “terminals” on an “org board” to “mock up” being “uptone” and pretend they are “winning”. Survey “buttons” indicate that “singing & dancing” is “needed & wanted”. Beings watching this “VFP” at “conservatism” are supposed have their “tone levels” raised to “enthusiasm”. If the “handling” is done “standardly” then “upstats” will result. At the completion of the “cycle” the staff “terminals” are ordered to get a “meter check” to ensure they have an “F/N”, after which they must write a mandatory “success story”. Execs “uplines” write “compliance reports” to “Int Management” and attach the video with the attestation that “this is okay”, after which an appropriate number of “Volunteer Ministers” are assigned to the internet to “dead agent” anyone who did not come “uptone”. Thereafter, “Planetary Clearing” ensues.

    • Spackle Motion

      Hoaxie! You are a sight for sore eyes.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yippee!!! HelluvaHoax is visiting! Hip, Hip, Hooray!

    • q-bird

      so {theta} HelluvaHoax! thanks.

  • Robert Eckert

    4chan marked its 9th anniversary by hacking into the George Zimmerman trial, interrupting a Skype connection being used to question a witness remotely by bombarding the witness with prank Skype calls:

    http://www.dailydot.com/lol/4chan-george-zimmerman-trial-skype/

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      ballsy

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    Niters folks. Don’t let the trolls bite.

    • Missionary Kid

      Night, night. Sweet dreams.

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        One question before Monitors Out… This question will drive Capn’ up the wall, but…

        I understand you are a pilot, correct? Have you ever seen a UFO?

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Oh geez!!!

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            that was from me!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Lol, you didn’t have to tell me!
              Haha

        • Missionary Kid

          Yes – but…

          A UFO is simply an Unidentified Flying Object. My theory is that the mind tries to make sense of what it sees, and in the air, there are many optical illusions, particularly at night.

          When I went through night flight training, they put us into a darkened room and while our eyes were adapting to the low light level, they talked about the physiology of night vision. Then they had a set up where they could move lights towards and away from the audience, as well as make them dimmer and brighter.

          The lesson I learned is that at night, we don’t have the visual cues we do in the daytime. We judge distance by the relative brightness of lights. The mind tells you that something is close because it’s bright. I’ve stared at some lights, trying to make sense of them for a long time, because my mind was telling me that they were something completely different. When I finally got close, and could see what they were or how they were set up, the perspective of my mind changed completely because I had better information.

          On a moonless night, particularly over water, it’s easy to get vertigo. I consider a night flight like that to be an instrument flight.

          During the day, remember that we usually perceive things in more or less two dimensions. One of the reasons that being at the top of a mountain is so neat is that one’s perspective changes. The planes that I fly now are usually only less than 10,000′. Again, distance and objects and terrain affect the perceptions, because I’m in a much more 3 dimensional space. I’ve even been fooled by the floaters we all have in our eyes.

          While driving north on I-15 one night, very late, I had the same experience that Phoenix had with a string of lights appearing in the sky. It was flares dropped from an aircraft. I couldn’t see or hear the aircraft because it was too high, but I knew exactly what it was, and because there’s prohibited airspace, I knew it was military.

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            Thanks for that very interesting response! That night flight training must have been quite interesting! For some reason, I keep thinking of Saint-Exupery.

            As for Phoenix… that was more than a string of lights; mass was visible. But, no need to go there.

            • Missionary Kid

              Parachute flares. You can’t tell that they are really at a high altitude, and it takes a long time for them to come down. The parachutes add “mass” to them. They don’t always burn for the same amount of time, but they are in a line.

              Saint-Ex is one of my heroes. Night flight describes an era when flying was DANGEROUS because they had very little understanding of weather and even less information. Have you ever seen the movie? It’s not particularly good, but it’s interesting.

              You know that they found the plane he died in, don’t you?

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              Yes, I heard they found the plane. Sigh… I actually have a first edition of Night Flight but I have never seen the film. I never even knew there was a film!

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m impressed. A first edition. I have an old paperback.
              Wind, Sand, and Stars is an account of flying in North Africa before WWII.

              St. Ex. also wrote the stories for a documentary called Conquest of the Air, made in 1936. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032354/fullcredits?ref_=ttrel_sa_1
              It’s available free online, supposedly here: http://www.liketelevision.com/liketelevision/tuner.php?channel=263&format=movie&theme=guide

              He wrote The Little Prince when he was in the U.S., and he was old enough that he didn’t have to fly, but he loved France, so went back to Europe and Flew F-5s – which were the unarmed photo reconnaissance version of the P-38.

              The movie, Night Flight was made in 1933, starred,
              John Barrymore
              Helen Hayes,
              Clark Gable,
              Lionel Barrymore
              Robert Montgomery
              Myrna Loy.

              Is that an all-star cast, or what?
              I saw it on Turner Classic Movies. Here’s the IMDB listing:
              http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024381/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2st, or what?

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              I will definitely check that out! Thanks MK! Yes, I also have an older (maybe 3rd or 4th edition) of Wind, Sand and Stars. He certainly was an interesting man.

            • Sidney18511

              Ok…reading your posts with MK sent me down the rabbit hole in search of info about Saint-Exupery. Very, very interesting!

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              Everyone knows him for The Little Prince (which really was an incredible little book) but there is a lot to him. He is a truly romantic figure–for me anyway.

            • Missionary Kid

              The “documentary” is basically a docudrama. It spends too much time on ancient, mythological, attempts at flight. It has the flavor of something made in the early 30s. I have seen it before, but didn’t realize that St. Ex had anything to do with it.

              It’s free, so you can bail on it at any time.

              I really didn’t like the movie of The Little Prince. It should have been much shorter, at the least. As I remember it, it tries too hard to be {significant}, when the original story has impact because it’s very simple.

          • dagobarbz

            A pirate could see a UFO…Unidentified Floating Object.

        • Captain Howdy

          I’m not a pilot, I’m a pirate

          http://youtu.be/SLMJpHihykI

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            an affectionate fuck off, to you

  • Jon Hendry

    OT:

    I don’t have any citations to back it up, but apparently Douglas Englebart, inventor of the computer mouse and participant in the development of networking, hypertext, and very early graphical interfaces, was into EST.

    I found that rather disappointing.

  • Missionary Kid

    Happy Independence Day to all Americans.

    If Tony sleeps in today, I’m still happy with all the news he’s brought us this past week.
    Thank you, Great Britain, for the heritage you gave us, and France for your help.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Independence day.. Will Smith.. Alien invasion.. Scientology.. Scam.. Abuse.. Intimidation.. Theft.. Brainwashing.. Enslavement.. Imprisonment… How sad that that’s where my mind goes on a day I should be appreciating freedom..

      • Missionary Kid

        SPF, you’re a real Freedom fighter. Thank you.

        • sugarplumfairy

          No, I’m a freedom fight watcher.. Thank god for the fighters..

          • BuryTheNuts2

            We are the loud girls in the bleachers!

            • sugarplumfairy

              yah, we are!

    • Captain Howdy

      Happy King George A Go-Go Day to you and everyone else

      And thanks to the frogs for helping us kick some limey ass.

      Xenu Bless America

      • Missionary Kid

        Interestingly enough, I was born under the British flag in a former Colony. I probably qualify for dual citizenship, but I’ve never tried to exercise it.

        I went to Kindergarten and the first form in another British Colony. I still occasionally spell color as colour as a consequence.

  • EnthralledObserver

    *whines about no new post* *then notices something about a ‘holiday’* *shrugs and hopes for more tomorrow*

  • Sidney18511

    I am not giving up hope that Mr. O, knowledgeable reporter of all things Scientology, will give us a post today. In the meantime I will watch the marathon showing of all the old “Twlight Zones” that are shown every July 4th on syfy.

    • Sidney18511

      After all they next best thing to news about Scientology are episodes of Twlight zone. Shite….Scientology is the Twlight zone.

  • disqus_RRMJFmOCva

    Piano Foster’s cryptic shout out to xenu crew during the days they were lying to parents and teachers about the school’s future while putting on a graduation and end of year festivities. Cons, fakes, liars. Imagine what it was like up in their office with the letters to parents already printed and ready to be mailed while they packed boxes and giggled over their escape. Tragic frauds.

  • tdsthomas

    Hmmmm Maybe if they’d spent more time teaching and looking for funding than making music videos . . .

  • DAY KITTYKAT

    WTF!!!!!