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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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The Master Gets Three Oscar Nominations

HoffmanHubbardJust a quick afternoon post to acknowledge that Paul Thomas Anderson’s movie, The Master, garnered three acting Oscar nominations today. (But PTA himself, and his film, got snubbed for Best Director and Best Picture.)

Joaquin Phoenix was nominated for Best Actor for his role as Freddie Quell, Philip Seymour Hoffman was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for playing the L. Ron Hubbard analog Lancaster Dodd (the Master), and Amy Adams received a nomination for Best Supporting Actress in her role as the Master’s wife, Peggy Dodd.

You know what this means — even more media attention aimed at the film and its relationship to the early days of Scientology. Oh, the fun.

Speaking of media announcements, we have one of our own…

Today at 4 pm Eastern, we’ll be interviewed on Allison Hope Weiner’s web TV show, Media Mayhem, to talk about all this wacky Scientology news happening lately.

Her show has featured Mark Ebner and John Cook in the past, so we have a feeling we’ll be asked some pretty good questions. Please tune in and jeer at us.

UPDATE: Allison tells me they will tape the show and broadcast it at 7 pm Eastern. Sorry for the delay.

7:20 pm: They’re having some technical difficulties over at Media Mayhem but expect the show up shortly…

Here it goes. I’m putting this up sight unseen.

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Posted by Tony Ortega on January 10, 2013 at 12:43

 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Damian-DeWitt/100000143081032 Damian DeWitt

    A friend of mine had a minor role in the film playing a scene across from Phoenix. He said it was the most remarkable experience of his acting career. He was taken aback when Phoenix broke down totally in character, but
    Anderson didn’t call cut and just kept the cameras rolling and my friend just kept responding to Phoenix. Anderson was satisfied with both of them.

    • Ziontologist

      Interesting. I’m a Phoenix fan, and Anderson is such a hip director.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Damian-DeWitt/100000143081032 Damian DeWitt

    Apparently you can watch the show stream here: http://www.livestream.com/theliptv?t=207299

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1161852028 Derek Bloch

      Thanks for the link. I’ll try to tune in.

  • Chocolate Velvet

    The Master was a great movie in many ways — the acting was incredible, and I’m glad to see these three getting recognition for it. The way Joaquin Phoenix embodied the character of Freddie Quell was galvanizing. A case study in the Somatics of PTSD. You could feel the crippling tension, just watching him. Amy Adams was amazing as well, but I suspect her performance was cheated by some last minute editing. Hoffman was simply sublime. Kudos to all three!

    • Ziontologist

      Amy Adams is my number one reason to see the movie again. I’m dying to see that scene again, where she asked Freddie Quell to look into her eyes. She ruled.

      “Amy Adams … was cheated by some last minute editing”

      I don’t know about any last minute editing, but there was a last minute name change of her character, wasn’t there? From Mary Sue to Peggy? Did anyone ever hear what went down?

      • N. Graham

        Just that the lawyers thought calling her “Mary Sue” was TOO close.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      We in RTC would have liked the movie better if we had been given full control of the script. What the movie missed was the Founder’s heroic and successful struggles against J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI, Don Purcell, and lobotomizing people like Freddie Quell, for indeed after Freddie left the Master’s care he would have been lobotomized by the State faster than a Scientology reg can drain one’s bank account.

      • Valerie Ross

        You had me til faster than a Scientology reg can drain ones bank account. That, dear sir is the benchmark by which all other speed is registered. Not a possible speed record to break.

      • InTheNameOfXenu

        I think I busted a kidney laughing ;-)

      • Jgg2012

        “We in RTC would have liked the movie better if we had been given full control of the script”–uh, like you did in Razzie-award winner Battlefield Earth?

  • California

    YYYEEESSS!

  • DeElizabethan

    In not really knowing that business of selecting Oscar nominations, I think it is great and that three nominations is pretty good. I really did enjoy their performances and the movie and as you say, will help promote it further.

    4 pm I am looking forward to join the Media Mayhem show here. Thanks Tony O

  • Bob

    Three nominations is great for a film that was not well understood by Hollywood. It is an opportunity for the Weinstein’s to promote the hell out of the movie!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1161852028 Derek Bloch

      I’m pretty sure that “Hollywood” understood it fairly well. I mean, they are inundated with recruiters from Scientology that constantly prey on talent.

      It’s actually ironic when you think about it. Scientology claims that “suppresive persons” seek out people who are creative in an attempt to destroy creativity. While Scientology seeks out Hollywood talent to leech off their cash flow.

      • Bob

        Derek, Probably so. The issue that I consider even worse than being after the money is being after the creativity and name recognition to exploit other members of the church and get new members.

      • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

        Hollywood at large might understand it, but the Academy voters are a bunch of old farts. Their median age is 62. Scientology exposure has been almost entirely on the internet, and a lot of the voters didn’t even have internet access until this year, when they’re required to use it to vote.

  • Ze Moo

    I am surprised Anderson didn’t get a nomination for directing or writing. I am not surprised that The Master got 3 acting nominations. Hoffman and Phoenix have already received Oscars, maybe it is Amy Adams turn.

    Cruise and Travolta may have to keep away from such an ‘entheta’ laden event. Oh, wait, since neither is nominated, they only have to worry if they are asked to present awards.

    • mook

      “Cruise and Travolta may have to keep away from such an ‘entheta’ laden event. Oh, wait, since neither is nominated, they only have to worry if they are asked to present awards.”

      Cruise presented last year I think.

      speaking of Sci-celebs, right after the Oscars noms on NBC, guess who was briefly interviewed by the anchors in the plaza outside the studio to promote her soon-to-be-cancelled sitcom? Jenna Elfman. She didn’t look too happy, mainly because she’s had so much botox that her face barely moves .

  • LongNeckGoose

    Anybody out there have an opinion about the scene where Freddie sees all the women at a party naked? Did he just imagine that they were naked, or did everybody at the party get drunk and disrobe? My wife and I do not agree about this scene.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      a lot of people don’t agree on that scene.
      I say it was feral Freddie’s sexually obsessed imagination.

      • LongNeckGoose

        That makes two of us.

      • N. Graham

        Agree.

    • SP ‘Onage

      What I thought was strange during that scene was, a guy behind me in the theater took a flash picture of the screen. WTF? I thought maybe it was a scilon gathering evidence…or a perve. LOL!

  • Mrs Libnish

    Yaaayyy…we are going to the Academy Awards! it will only be 1pm my time…I’ll tune in.

    • richelieu jr

      Jeez, it always starts at 3 or 4 my time, and the local TV only has it
      with idiots talking over all the speeches.. so far, streaming has
      proved… less than satisfactory.. Hope I can find a solution this
      year…

  • BuryTheNuts2

    This is absolutely delightful! I loved all of them in this film, especially Amy Adams character. And I had to stretch like an alley cat when I left the theater after watching Phoenix. I am sure this was a somewhat strange film to someone entirely ignorant of the subject matter, but those performances all rocked.

    • Ziontologist

      I have a musician friend who knows next to nothing about Scientology, and he thought it was the best movie he ever saw.
      Anderson definitely knows how to make a movie.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        That is great Z. I am glad you enjoyed it so much. It was a beautiful artistic work,… but it was definitely a character study as opposed to plot driven film. I still believe it was a bit too enigmatic for your average Joe to really delve into. One had to pay attention to pick up the nuances of the film.
        I deliberately went by myself because I know that no one I knew (here at least) would have liked it.

        • Valerie Ross

          Living in the middle of nowhere, it wasn’t even shown here, I WILL see it one day. Maybe in a city far from here.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Comes out next month on DVD and blue ray I think.

            • Gus_Cox

              Oh, man, I was lucky enough to see it in 70mm at the Dome in LA. Unbelievable experience! Great film, I’m glad it wasn’t totally overlooked.

  • Ziontologist

    “The Master’ was a beautiful work of art. I was at peace when I left the theater. It was amazing to me, as an ex-Scientologist, how beautifully it told the story of something which had affected me personally on so many levels.
    It brought me peace.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    The Media Mayhem … this will be good.

    January 2013 is going to go down as a historic landmark time stamp for the toppling of the scientology syndicate.

  • InTheNameOfXenu

    Wouldn’t it be a kicker if Tom Cruise was asked to present the Best Supporting Actor award and he had to present it to the winner, Phillip Seymor Hoffman? It would be the first time in history that Miscavige would send a celebrity to the RPF, LOL! I can just hear the dwarf screaming, ‘You fucking gave that award to that Fucking SP!?’

    I know that a stretch, but a man can fantasize ;-)

    • Deckard__Cain

      That would be sweet irony, but the Academy typically follows a system for presenters where the Best Actress winner from the previous year is the presenter for the Best Actor award. So Tom Cruise would typically have to actually WIN an award to present one. This formula is not always used and I’ve seen TC present lesser awards in the past. But they usually have the female winner (or nominees) present the Best Actor award.

    • JonHenke

      That. Would be. The best thing that ever happened. Ever. 75 trillion years of history would culminate in Tom Cruise having to smile and say the words “And the winner is….Philip Seymour Hoffman!”

      An ideal Hoffman speech, given while looking at Tom Cruise: “I think you know that I did this for you. And I do care so very, very, very much. So whatya say, did I clean up?”

      • EnthralledObserver

        ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
        omg… if only fantasies came true…

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Oy Vey…Off topic……Krustie Alley is on a twitter rant about big pharma!
    Psych drugs cause harm to children,. They cause violence, suicide and other harm.
    Shit….sounds more like the Co$ to me.
    Does anyone have a harpoon I can borrow?

    • http://twitter.com/BradGreenwood2 Bradley Greenwood

      I don’t think anyone has wanted to harpoon Alley in years; you are a brave soul.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Thanks!… You just made me lose my shiz and they are threatening to call the white coats again here at work.

      • mook

        HARPOON THAT WHALE!

        • Valerie Ross

          Even Ahab wouldn’t be brave enough to take her on, save your harpoon for someone people care about, not a psychotic.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Hey, I am trying to “clear’ a planet here.

            • mook

              prediction: Kirstie will enter a non-Scientology rehab this year more than likely Betty Ford or the Cirque Lodge. she’s at that point now….

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Agree…she is getting sloppy!

  • BosonStark

    I haven’t watched the Oscars in several years but may have to watch this one to see if there are any good Scientology jokes and comments.

    Phoenix winning could help pull it out of its box office hole too, with DVD sales and rentals.

  • Ondine Green

    In other news: Marty is beginning to think for himself, and many Indies don’t like it.

    http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/what-more-can-i-say/

    • BuryTheNuts2

      That stuff about Marty taking over Tony O’s blog “was” kinda funny though.
      A sand mine and a peach are not quite the same thing….although they both do have pits.

    • whingeybingey

      There are some good comments there. Hmm, somebody else is questioning where are the great Scientology artists…. “Where are the great Scientists and Artists and Individuals and the great creations of OTs ?” Lol.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Hey, the Anon’s are already scheming on the Nancy Many show…someone posted a possible link for the UK…I will go find it for you.

        • whingeybingey

          Thanks, BuryTheNuts2!

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Oh, and there was once a truly great Scientology artist….But not for long.
        Leonard Cohen.

        • Cerulean Blu

          What about the Jive Aces! They wear matching suits!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            ACK!

        • jensting

          William S Burroughs

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Beatty/1631176570 Chuck Beatty

            The great Burroughs cut to the chase with his hindsight challenges to Hubbard, which of course Hubbard wasn’t mentally (ever) in a position to understand, but I think since Hubbard did in the late 1970s at least put part of the Xenu story into a film script, one could at least conjecture that Burroughs’ challenge to Hubbard to make his secret OT 3 teachings public, Hubbard did in fact do a feeble and incomplete effort to make part of the Xenu story public. (Hubbard left a whole long list of problems for the movement, and Burroughs’ challenges, were so logical, and still today Burroughts’ challenges to today’s Scientologists (official and independent alike) still hold.

            Essentially Burroughs’ challenges are of the “show me the OT abilities” scientifically peer reviewed and shown to be attainable and displayable!

            Thankyou Jensting for your many years of staying with the comments on the ARS chat site and here! Really appreciate and have for years appreciated your thoughts, and all the other great ARS commenting 1990s era Scientology observers!

            Chuck Beatty
            ex Sea Org (1975-2003)

        • Unex Skcus

          Ah, Leonard Cohen… been listening to him for almost 5 decades. Was a bit shocked when I first heard he’d been into Co$.

  • JustCallMeMary

    I won’t be surprised at all if Joaquin Phoenix wins. He was brilliant.
    ps:Thanks for the update! I’ll be sure to listen in.

  • Cerulean Blu

    Where is the live video feed? It should have started by now?!!

  • NotmyselfNEmore

    Waiting over at Media Mayhem….all I’m getting is an Amy Heckerling interview. Not that I don’t love Clueless, but where’s Tony?

    • BuryTheNuts2

      That’s what I got too, Amy Heckerling.

      • NotmyselfNEmore

        Now I’m getting the Wine Down…not that I don’t love wine, too.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I prefer my Wine with Ortega Hot Sauce!

          • NotmyselfNEmore

            Me too – I was looking forward to having dinner with Tony,. Well, at least on my screen.

  • Cerulean Blu

    Where is the broadcast? Anyone?

    • sugarplumfairy

      Sorry.. Wish I could help but I can’t find it either..

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Tony said he’d post a link when he could get it (from his Facebook). Probably a technical delay (or Karen Pouw escaped and is telling All and it’s gonna take all night)

      • NotmyselfNEmore

        Maybe a bitter apostate holding it up!

    • Deckard__Cain

      It’s not on the site but I’m really loving some of the other ones I missed. Being a native Angelino, I’m loving some of Allison’s discussions because she reminds me of people that I know in the entertainment industry. They make references to local stuff that makes her interviews great.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Do you click Live? I’m not able to see it. ???

  • Cerulean Blu

    IT’s finally up!!!!!!

    • Cerulean Blu

      I retract my statement, there is a new video posted a minute ago with a picture of Tom Cruise… it seems to link to a different video, however.

  • http://surisburnbook.tumblr.com/ nobs

    Must be something wrong with my confuser. I see the image of TC and the little play symbol, but clicking on the play symbol just takes me back to Amy Heckerling. Huh. Anyone? Help.

    • Cerulean Blu

      Ya, I think they linked to the wrong video

  • SP ‘Onage

    All I am getting is – This video unavailable

    • TonyOrtega

      YouTube says it’s still being processed…

      • SP ‘Onage

        Thanks Tony! I’ll give it a few more minutes.

        • Deckard__Cain

          I’m having problems downloading (only able to watch a few minutes before it freezes permanently). But this is worth the wait.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Why is Crazy Cruise’s picture showing? I thought this was LIVE?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      It was going to be, but then no, taped earlier this afternoon. Tony said there were technical difficulties per someone on chat at liptv.

      • SP ‘Onage

        Thanks! :)

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Staring at that picture so long I just finally saw that his eyes are mismatched, halfway between cross eyed. No wonder he has trouble reading. Oh, and not something Hubbard could fix.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Yes, shttp://thelip.tv/truth-beyond-scientology-hysteria-with-tony-ortega/ame here. Here’s the link. Hopefully it will work soon. Maybe Tom’s beaming evil intentions, or flying over the studio with magnetic Venusian beams to interfere with the broadcast. hee

    • DeElizabethan

      Don’t know what I’d do without your tech and link help, thanks loads.
      It was excellent!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Tks, but I rely heavily on other real tekkies heavy lifting. I’m an excellent at pasta however, with or without sauce.

        • DeElizabethan

          I see! How about some good pasta fazoole. My first husband was sicilian and made the best sauces. I’ll be over to join you for some, with or without.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    It’s on!

  • Cerulean Blu
  • Cerulean Blu

    Wow that initial teaser from Tony before the video was really interesting!!

  • Deckard__Cain

    Holy crap. I just realized that Allison Weiner’s brother is Matt Weiner. Wow….and Allison is very aware of the bullshittery of Scientology while Matt employs a Sci-celeb (Elizabeth Moss). I really hope that Allison gave her brother the low-down with this terrible cult. I’ve always wondered if Matt was aware that he had a Sci-tard working as a star on his show.

  • Cerulean Blu

    The Miscavige pose that OTVIIIisGreat uses was used in this interview! Great backdrop!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Beatty/1631176570 Chuck Beatty

    Thanks so much for noticing our culture’s interactions with the fantasy fake religion Scientology, which is IRS sanctioned which is as good as it gets and Scientology is quite happy with the IRS’s stamp of approval (but as professors Cowan and Bromley noted in their “Cults and New Religions” book, a “new religion” may be created fraudulently, but if that religion can muster religion status in the minds of the members, which is the case for Scientology, then fake religions turn into real religions, essentially, and the trouble rackets down the ages).

    Anyways, Tony, can’t thank you enough for becoming so well versed in all things Scientology! You definitely get this subject and it’s absurdities.

    If Scientology’s history as a religion can be sideswiped and derailed, by all the publicity and the world taking note of Scientology’s glaring irreligious behavior, then they deserver to someday lose their “religion” status.

    But it’s a group thing, and all those actual official Scientologists, no matter how beaten up by the fresh minded independent Scientologists who take official Scientologists to task, in the end, the official church if they keep faking (believing) they are a religion, they at least in the USA for now have a moment of rest.

    Movies like “The Master” I hope become part of curricula when universities assign students to look at the genesis of Scientology.

    A whole lot more academic study is needed to sway Scientology out of the religion category, though, and all official Scientology would have to do, is dump all their Hubbard “scriptures” that tell them to do their irreligious actitivities, and focus more on their spiritual enlightenment fake pseudo therapy and their space alien dead soul exorcism, and they’d likely be more palatable at least. (Drop their OSA, drop their brutal shunning blackmail tactics, is the way they should go.)

    Chuck Beatty
    ex Sea Org (1975-2003)
    866-XSEAORG toll free advice and sympathetic ear, mainly now used by distraught family of Sea Org members

    • jensting

      Hi Chuck. I think it’s the coercive nature of the group, not the strange quality of the beliefs, that makes the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology a cult.
      As such, once its activities are regulated so as to be less harmful to its members and to society, it’ll become yet another new religious movement. That’s fine with me.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Beatty/1631176570 Chuck Beatty

        Agreed, the book, “Introduction to Scientology Ethics” and green volume number 1 lay out the ethics and justice rules and regulations which the members pressure and control one another with.

        One thing all these new “Ideal Orgs” have, are their chapel rooms, to keep up the pretend church image, and a place to hold marriages and namings. I think the only religious thing the orgs do is respect their chapels enough to refrain from doing sales (regging) in them, sheesh! It’s ironic that the religious influence of putting chapels in their orgs, has instilled a tiny bit of religious reverence in them.

        Dissection of Hubbad’s totalitarian system still isn’t being done by academics though. . (Two books which should be thoroughly reviewed are green volume 1 and Introduction to Scientology Ethics.)

  • Cerulean Blu

    That interview was monumental, Tony. Another nail in the coffin of $cientology. Perhaps the last, and most definitive nail in the coffin!

    • 0tessa

      How many nails are there in the coffin already? By now the wood must be so full with nails, that there isn’t any place left for new nails…!

  • Captain Howdy

    No best picture or best director nomination ? whaddya expect from a gaggle of spay on siliconed butoxed philistines. ? These are same sort of idiots that picked “Rocky” over “Taxi Driver. Well at least King Steven guarantees Bigelow won’t get it for another (most likely) overrated POS.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Taxi Driver is one of my favorite movies. I won’t tell you my opinion of anything with Stallone in it.

      • Captain Howdy

        I’ve seen Taxi Driver at least once every year since it was released.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Yeah, yer alright!

          • Captain Howdy

            Actually the Capt Howdy All-time Viewed Award goes to “Zulu”( 1964) clocking in at least 50 times. Yeah I’m alright mate ; )

            • Captain Howdy

              All freedom of religion equates to is freedom from logic and reason.

    • Sherbet

      Where do you stand on the Forrest Gump vs. The Shawshank Redemption controversy?

      • Captain Howdy

        What controversy ? They both suck, 2 of the most overrated movies of modern time, same thing with the Departed. Warmed over “Goodfellas”. They did the same thing with the Westies and “State of Grace”. They took a perfect real life story and “made it better”.

        • Sherbet

          Forrest was silly, maudlin, and corny. This is why I never watch or even know about Oscar winners. It seems to be a big league popularity contest on par with electing Student Council President. Anyway, I’ve driven us off topic; enough, awready from me.

          • Captain Howdy

            You wanna see a REAL movie Sherb, Watch “Happiness” (1988) by Todd Solondz. Now that’s a MOVIE !

            • Sherbet

              I put it on my list. Thanks. Sounds weird. I’ll love it.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Wow, I am glad it was not just me disappointed with The Departed.

  • Sherbet

    Is this where the Tony Ortega groupies meet? Doggone, you’re good, TO!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yep, you are backstage baby.

      • Sherbet

        I’m so excited! I’ve got my autograph book and everything. Swoon….

  • sugarplumfairy

    Great interview, Tony! What a greeaaaaat January!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Excellent interview, questions and in depth answers. I can’t imagine what your life is like, Tony, with daily calls, daily stories. You have soaked so much in that you speak the Ronspeak without skipping a beat.

    It’s true that the Miscavige’s changing the financial extractions to daily demands and for buildings and defense and not services has been a major factor in its dwindling membership over the last 15 years. I don’t believe it is just that one thing, but a combination of the disconnection which is not just family, but friends, businesses, companies.

    What I have seen from exit reports of those few thousands left in the last few years since Anonymous came on the scene is that the final catapult was when the screws got put them personally. In the past the more affluent members could buy protection like buying protection from the mafia. It was like a game of Scientolopy.

    You could buy your get out of jail (ethics) card, you could buy out of community (OT Committees, Vol Ministers, Call Ins etc) duty time, you could buy the best auditors. You could buy your bridge loans from other members, you could buy your kids a job at a Wise company. That ended about 3 years ago now. All members including public were deputized as salesmen and they had quotas. No more buying protection. As soon as one person was dragged in, threatened, cornered, soon they would be writing up their exit report (condition formulas).

    You are correct that it is at least 10 to every 1 person who speaks publicly, although in the last two years I’d say it was more like 100. Every report I read or hear about of those who have ears in the halls and feet on the ground say the majority are just quietly slipping away. The staff will be the last ones to turn out the lights. In the sea org, under conditions I have sadly been reading, they are so mentally broken I don’t know what will happen to them because the physical conditions may be escalating.

    I have a feeling we’ll be seeing you in many interviews this year. Thoroughly happy with the host’s excellent questions.

    • Deckard__Cain

      Yes, Allison rocks.

    • Sherbet

      THDNE, you hear leaks from inside. Have you heard anything creditable about what DM is going through after the 2012 and continuing sh-storm? People seem to think he’s got steam coming out of his ears and his blood pressure is sky-high, but I wonder if his staff spins and sifts through every bit of news that gets to him, so that he continues to live in the fantasy that it’s all victories for scn. What do you think?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I don’t hear that far. I think those in his clutches are in terrible shape and terrified to stay another day but terrified to escape. I think losing Suri and Katie and the media hole she opened up about Miscavige’s crazy and abuses was a huge blow. Larry Wright, Nancy Many and then Jenna all coming out bam bam bam, just knowing that type of personality, I would say he is going to go ballistic and compulsively do something very damaging, something his lawyers won’t know about in advance.

        • Sherbet

          Thanks for the insights.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          God I hope so!

    • TonyOrtega

      THDNE — thanks for those thoughts. That will help me the next time.

  • DMSTCC

    LOL – “The Squealer Church” They seem to be reduced to rats and reggs

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Auditing room…ouch.
      As BM would say:
      HA HA HA HA.

      That’s all I got…cutting and pasting on a iPad sucks.

      • Midwest Mom

        You’re 99% P.R.

  • SP ‘Onage

    First, I want to thank Allison Hope Weiner at Media Mayhem for having Tony on your show. I loved your genuine (sincere) style of interviewing and was pleasantly surprised you read this blog daily, good for you! :)

    Tony, I really am proud of you! You were brilliant! All of us care about you dearly here in the bunker. Now tell me, what’s up with the cough? You catching a cold?

    • EnthralledObserver

      *Offers Tony cough drops… parcetamol… more water…*
      Can’t have our favourite snoop out of action now, can we?

  • DodoTheLaser

    Tony’s live video with Allison is on and it’s a treat. Thank you both of you! 48:49 of relevant fun.

  • Sid Snakey

    Very interesting interview. I tend to instinctively think of the contributors to this blog as also being the total readership of the blog, but clearly that’s not true, as Allison shows herself to be an avid reader, and I also remember another journo saying they were a regular reader. I wonder who else reads it!!!???

    • BuryTheNuts2

      I bet there are a lot more than you might initially suspect. I read several other blogs and forums fairly regularly and have never posted on most of them.

  • 0tessa

    I very much liked to see the man behind the blog! You sound so right in everything you say.
    The load of books, interviews, articles, coming-out stories etc. must have reached by now a critical mass!
    Are Miscavige’s days numbered?

  • EnthralledObserver

    Fabulous! What more can I say…?

  • Valerie Ross

    I just posted this at The bake. I agree totally with your interview about people not coming forward. Here is my take on it.

    If you look at abused spouses, and I was one of those too, you see they too hang on to the abusive relationship, ashamed to admit they are being abused or that they were duped into it. The cult abuse is no different, just enforced on a greater number on a larger scale.

    People in abusive relationships, whether marital or through the cult are very unwilling to discuss what happened to them as they feel they were at fault. The first thing an abuser does to a person they are abusing is convince them that they are the bad one, that they deserve the abuse, and what is being done to them is for their own good.

    Once the mind and soul are broken, it is easy to keep the person down where you want them. If they do escape, it is a rare few who speak out.

    Due to the very nature of a broken mind, it is my opinion that there must be a myriad of silent people out there who have suffered as much or more than those brave souls who are speaking out.

  • DeElizabethan

    Tony, absolutely thrilled with this. To tell about the crisis is such important news to get out along with all the new books and new info that you mention. I like that you tell the truth and can back up everything you say. You have helped make it safe, more than any single person, for other writers and news persons to get that info out there.
    Thank you!

  • Unex Skcus

    Great interview Tony. Looking forward to your book :)

  • Couch_Incident

    Tony, very nice interview – great perspectives and your compassion for the victims was apparent. I was thinking throughout it that you were very gracious to the other journalists working Scn, and I was very pleased when Alison Hope Weiner acknowledged the same. Keep up the good work!

  • Imago

    The Master finally arrived in my part of the world – and, like BTN2, I went alone. I’ve been a lurker at VV, The Rodeo, and The Underground since the mighty divorce and am so grateful for the knowledge and wit in this wonderful community. I know I would have missed so much without you all. Please may I ask one question though, that I haven’t seen raised before? When LRH… sorry, I mean Lancaster… announced the release of his latest book, he said something like – ‘It’s all about laughter’! Given that laughter and humor is most likely very scarce in Co$, did LRH write anything or speak about laughter?

    PS… Tony Ortega – you rock!

    • Bob

      Yes LRH did. Not sure where though. In the early days there was a lot more fun. Laughter. Exploration of new ideas etc. Now unfortunately almost every Scientologist I know has disconnected from some one or other who has left the church. Fear of communicating to undesirables and fear of being upset by reading something uncensored by the church are the norm. That does tend to squelch laughter. Being able to laugh at oneself is an admirable quality. I am afraid if you are in the SO you do not have that luxury. If you are the head of the SO a herd of elephants could get that tiny tyrant to elicit a laugh at his own expense. If the king does not laugh neither do you.

      • Imago

        Thanks Bob… I appreciate your input.

        • Bob

          There is a complete lack of humor inside the church. I wish it were not so. I am extremely careful of what I say to church members. What is interesting is Hubbard was always joking and being sarcastic. Just listen to any tape recording.

  • @silenttom

    Buddhism is also inwardly directed. What makes Buddhism different than many other religions is it inspires others to look inward and achieve enlightenment in themselves to become a buddha. Unlike other religions that encourage you to follow an enlightened one (Jesus, Mohamed, ect)