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Miscavige Gets His Wish: Marty Rathbun Pulling Up Stakes?

UPDATE: See what we’ve learned about the Rathbuns’ new home so far, below.

We have to admit, this really took us by surprise.

Earlier tonight, Marty Rathbun posted what appears to be an announcement that he and his wife Monique are pulling up stakes and leaving Ingleside on the Bay, Texas.

For those of you who have followed along our reporting for more than a year on the kind of harassment the couple has been through at the hands of the Church of Scientology, this is a startling development.

We’re trying to get Rathbun on the phone to find out where he’s headed.

On April 18, 2011, the Rathbun home in the small fishing town across the bay from Corpus Christi became the site of a bizarre siege that would last five months. On that day, several Scientologists carrying cameras in their hands or strapped to their heads showed up at Rathbun’s door in what was clearly an attempt at intimidation.

At least four independent lines of evidence left no doubt that the goon squad and subsequent camera surveillance of Rathbun’s home was an operation of the Church of Scientology itself.

Rathbun was once the second-highest ranking official in the church until his defection in 2004. In 2009 he resurfaced and began blogging critically about Scientology leader David Miscavige. It has become very clear in the time since that his blog has become a serious challenge to the very existence of Miscavige’s church.

Bert Leahy, a freelance videographer who briefly worked for the goon squad said he was told in no uncertain terms that the squad’s aim was to “make Marty’s life a living hell.” Their antics were intended to make Rathbun unpopular with his neighbors, and convince him to leave town — where the harassment would continue at the new location.

As we reported just yesterday, Paul Marrick and Greg Arnold, detectives who worked for the church, were told that the intimidation squad was intended to make Rathbun “implode.”

After the harassment started, Rathbun responded by putting out an open letter to his neighbors, explaining why he was being targeted by such a strange attempt at intimidation. That plan worked as his neighbors rallied to his side. The town even passed a local ordinance in an attempt to chase away the harassers.

Meanwhile, we tried to make the public understand why the harassment was so beyond the pale in a country that prizes religious freedom…

The Scientologists preface their video with a scene of Rathbun jawboning with employees at the Fort Harrison Hotel in Clearwater, Florida, a Scientology headquarters. The point here is to suggest that if Rathbun can show up and demand information at the doorstep of a major Scientology installation, then Scientology is in its rights to do the same to him. But that hardly explains why a church would send a goon squad to intimidate a former member at his home as a way to disrupt his private religious practices.

This invasion of a small Texas town by such a concerted effort of harassment has to be one of the strangest chapters in American religious history. But it has been frustrating to see such little interest shown by the country’s major news outlets. That hasn’t been the case outside of the U.S., however, where Rathbun has been the subject of major stories in the UK and Australia, and is the focus of at least two British television and film projects.

Meanwhile, in this country, except for a short treatment on NBC’s Rock Center, the siege in south Texas has never been mentioned in the New York Times or on CNN, for example.

If the clownish “Squirrel Busters” faded away in November 2011, the surveillance of the Rathbuns did not. As Rathbun showed conclusively at his blog, a house across the street from his was set up as a foreboding fortress of mirrored windows and remote-controlled cameras. He learned that it’s been leased for the next three years by a Dallas private investigator who has worked for the church for decades.

In the past, Rathbun has tried to use this constant spying to his advantage. For Scientologists who are considering leaving the church but worry about making it happen, Rathbun said that coming to visit him — and being spotted on church cameras — results in immediate excommunication, a clean and instant break that Rathbun tried to convince his readers was preferable to the way that defections have tended to play out.

But now, apparently, the constant surveillance has simply become too much to bear for Marty and Monique.

We’ll update this post as soon as we learn more about where the Rathbuns are headed.

 
Update: We’re still trying to reach Rathbun, but with all the speculation going on in the comments, we want to put our own guess on the record.

Considering what the Rathbuns have been going through, we’re going to guess that he’s found a sprawling place, maybe a ranch property, that has no neighbors with prying eyes close by. And a tipster points out to us that it would make a lot of sense to keep bulldog attorney Ray Jeffrey nearby. We won’t be surprised, then, if the Rathbuns show up on an isolated place not too far from San Antonio.

What’s your guess?

 
Update: Rathbun has now posted photos of his new house, which is near San Antonio (and attorney Ray Jeffrey, whose cases have produced huge headaches for the Church of Scientology) and appears to be very secluded:

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  • sugarplumfairy

    Co$ can’t withstand the barrage of lawsuits and online attacks forever without recruiting new suckers.. And not much chance of that these days.. Marty et al can claim a large portion of the responsibility for that.. Sooner or later, the tide will turn..

    I hope Marty moves right into dm’s back yard.. =)

    • burythenuts

      No Shit!!!….I do too.

      Who is stalkin’ WHO MOFO!

      Or maybe he is moving to Cheyenne Wyoming…..
      Snigger…..
      Would THAT not be RICH.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Just not in Rinder’s territory, right btn? Please god, no. But I would just Love it if they moved to Hemet and Marty fans bought Marty and Mosey their very own PI Team for Christmas. And surveillance camera systems. And trash can locks. And beagles.

        • burythenuts

          Hmmmm. I don’t know if I could stand Rinder and Rathbun both in my backyard!
          I would be skipping work to go spy on there asses to see what they were up to. (They might think I was a DM paid shit head)
          I would bring SPF and her camera.
          it would be epic….
          After all….Rinder does live in Tarpon Springs.
          Hugely Greek!
          Ouzo
          Mextaca
          Flaming freakin’ cheese…
          And the Waiters always sing……….really loud.

          WAIT,
          MARTY, MOVE TO TARPON!!!

      • victoria

        Wyoming is beautiful country. I like the idea!
        I donated to them, and I encourage others to.
        I am convinced he could have sold out many times over before now and despite his motivations he hasn’t.
        But then again, all my life I have been accused of naivety.
        Obviously I like it.
        Which reminds me, I don’t see why Tony O doesn’t have a donate button? What am I supposed to do? Try to get his address and send ugly containers of popcorn to his house?

        • burythenuts

          Before you send him the ugly containers of popcorn…can you pick out the cheese popcorn for me!
          I will send you all of the chocolate my vendors send me in return?
          Fair?

          • Derek Bloch

            DUDE I always eat the Cheese popcorn first…ALWAYS

          • trustmeonthis

            Wait… you’re trading CHOCCY for cheez popcorn?! Where do I sign up?

    • BroekerBroekerBroeker

      Actually, I’m guessing he will.

      Maybe I’m attributing too much cunning to Marty , but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he hadn’t just been wait for the right rental to open up on Gilman Hot Springs Road, or maybe in Downtown Clearwater. Tomorrow’s the first of the month, after all – perhaps he signed the lease some time ago, but waited til the last moment to announce so as to keep CoS from queering the deal. I just dont buy that he’d let the Church have even the tiniest win without having a plan to make GM’s life even worse.

      I’ll be surprised if his next home choice isn’t a direct “fuck you” to Miscavige. I’ll be just as surprised if he hasn’t already picked it out.

      • John P. Capitalist

        This was exactly my first guess… He’d only move if he could move to a place where he would be more in Miscavige’s face than where he is now. Rinder is near Clearwater; if they lived right near each other, imagine how much more threatened Miscavige would be.

        Another possibility: they’re just moving to another house in Ingleside-by-the-Bay just so that Miscavige has wasted the three years’ rent in advance for the house with the cameras.

        I highly doubt that Marty is giving up because of the most recent remote controlled camera nonsense given what he went through with the Squirrel Busters.

        • Tracy

          —–I highly doubt that Marty is giving up because of the most recent remote controlled camera nonsense given what he went through with the Squirrel Busters—-
          I totally agree with this!! The SB’s were more disruptive to his neighbors yet he stayed. Marty if off to continue the con of LRON. He can make more money off his brainwashed companions in easier to get to locations.

      • Koondog

        If you’ve ever been to Hemet, it is NOT a place you would relocate to after having lived on the water at IOB, believe me.

        • Burythenuts

          But they have livestock auctions and a guy who raises Emu’s!

    • Mat Pesch

      Knowing Marty and Mosey as I do, they are moving forward not backward. You can bet on that. This will be no win for Miscavige.

      • kimberly580

        I have to agree. Marty never seems to do anything without reason or a plan. He’s very calculating that way. I believe whatever he’s doing, he has a plan for the future & it will include staking DM through the heart. I’ll be anxious to see what his plans are & where he’ll end up.

        • Tory Christman (Magoo)

          Come to LA! Oh My GAWD>>>>Davey boy would have
          a *heart attack* if Mosey and Marty moved *here*!

          Remember: There are TONS Of EX-Scientologists here,
          as well as “under the radar Scios”…just waiting to have someone finally bump them OUT.

          Oh! You’d have a field day *here*.

          Good luck, and stay kewl :)

          Tory/Magoo
          Burbank, CA
          (818) 588-3044 (call me if you come here)

          • bm

            Tory, what would you do without the co$ to chase around and attach yourself to to promote yourself and act like royalty to all the “fans”? Any ideas?

            • Scnethics

              Bowel Movement,
              What would you do if you developed a conscience? Any idea?

            • bm

              “Scnethics
              on December 1, 2012 at 11:41 am said:
              Bowel Movement,
              What would you do if you developed a conscience? Any idea?”

              RESPONSE: I do not even know what a “conscience” is, do you? I know it is cliche’ that is casually lobbed around but I have never seen one and could not answer your question until you define what it actually is, I assume you have one since you are asking about it.

              I am aslo looking for a definition of “involuntary” if you have one to spare. You all talk about “involuntary” with re: to RPF, but know one wants to back up their words here with clear terms and definitions.

            • Tory Christman (Magoo)

              What do you care? Are you a member of the organization pretending to be a “church”: Scientology?
              For me, I got into Scientology to help people. That’s the ONLY reason I joined. 30 years later, I finally woke up and realized that is NOT really what that organization is about, AT ALL.
              And with 30 years of experience, I love helping people get free, or NOT get suckered in.
              What do you do to help people?

              You *might* want to update your files on “my life”…as you obviously had a very poor briefing. It’s standard BS, but surely goes no where. Be well, Tory/Magoo

            • TCBY

              Tory Christman rocks! It’s interesting that the cult spends so much time and attention focusing on this lovely woman. Real churches don’t stalk, malign and harass former members, but in all honesty, the Co$ is a cult, not a real church.

      • Tory Christman (Magoo)

        TCBY,
        Thank you very, very much for the points you have brought up!

        What kind of “church” would harass, lie about, stalk and troll anyone, let alone a woman?
        Answer: No church.
        Would a mafia-like organization as Judge Breckenridge spoke of Scientology? YOU BETCHA. And thank you for demonstrating, bm<<<<appropriate nick…..this FACT. Love to all :) Tory/Magoo

    • bm

      Rathburn comes across like a blatant attention seeker to me. The Tory Magoo kind who enjoy the attention and are using the co$ for their own profit. And you are all his fawning but kissing devotees. Why would he or Tony Ortega ever stop playing the Don Quixote role? They would go into obscurity immediately without having the co$ to attach themselves to.

      • Davka

        If you really think that ALL of the commenters here are fawning devotees of Marty Rathbun, you clearly don’t understand your audience.

        • trustmeonthis

          Lol! Indeed. Or perhaps just new here.
          I would like to remind bm (and everyone listening in) that freeloader debt is NOT legally enforceable; that NDAs cannot cover criminal activity, and that there there is a whole world out here, with people who can and will help you.

      • grundoon

        As for you, bm, do you troll for attention or for money?

        • Enkindled

          He trolls because he is twelve

          • TrustMeOnThis

            He gets twelve bucks a week!
            And no respect, here or at his “church.” Poor bm.

      • Tory Christman (Magoo)

        Ahhhh the Classic OSA attempt to “Black PR” me. They’ve used it for 12 years now. The next one will be: “Tory thinks everyone is OSA”.
        I know your lines, whomever you are. “She just wants attention” has been run for 12 years now.
        Let’s sort it out:
        1) If I wanted attention, there are a LOT of things I would do that make money and get attention. This makes no money, so you lose there.
        2) So what? So what if that IS the only reason EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE IS posting? SO what? If we get people out of your SCAM CULT CREEP ASSED phony “religion” AND get attention? That’s YOUR problem, not ours. We got the peeps out, and educated peeps to NOT get suckered “in”. You’re obviously still “in” and can’t answer a simple question. What DO *YOU* do to help people? Thought you wouldn’t answer that. Using the “Always attack, never defend” typical $cientology BS “handle”, and doing the EPIC FAIL, once more, eh? Nice job. Keep going BM::: you SHOW people why they should NOT join the phony “church” of $cientology.
        Now go hang out in one of your many EMPTY “Ideal Orgs” (pfft) Tory/Magoo~~~Your local, Friendly SP you all turned from an auditor into an SP: Great job!

        • TCBY

          Team Tory.

          • Tory Christman (Magoo)

            LOL! Thanks, again, TCBY.
            What a delight a few supportive words are between some moron who can only spill hateful lies. I thank you,
            and thanks, Tony O!
            PS: And to bm? Why don’t you go practice some of that great “tech” you believe in. I mean it–it’s gotta be better than *this*.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Team Tory.. Great idea.. We need T shirts..

    • bm

      sugarplumfairy

      “I hope Marty moves right into dm’s back yard.. =)”

      If he does we will go for a beer and I will suggest he get a life, and ask him, if he could do anything what would he want to do besides ride around like Don Quixote

      • sugarplumfairy

        I’m thinking it may be time for you to do some career counseling and job training, bm.. I just checked the Dept. of Labor website and it turns out that once co$ falls, there’s not going to be much call for online trolls.. Online sales might be good for you.. Better yet–bill collector.. That way you get to utilize those awesome harassment skills of yours..

        Now, stop distracting us so we can get back to the topic at hand: where Marty is moving to better attack co$..

        • Spectator

          LOL! Good response.

        • bm

          sugarplumfairy

          You are so culty and don’t see it.

          • Enkindled

            And you are twelve years old apparently.

          • Eric J

            Oh my goodness that’s too good, a Scientologist calling someone else culty. *Rolls eyes*. Another side effect of Scientology, they say things to other people they should say to themselves.

            • TrustMeOnThis

              They do it all the time. It would be funny if they weren’t ruining people’s lives with their insane, illegal scam.

      • Bob Eckert
  • Chuck Beatty

    Marty’s gonna get public support, wherever he goes!

    Scientology’s reputation is so bad, that for years now, ex members who are attacked, get knee jerk support from the public wherever they go, when official Scientology attacks them.

    Attacks of ex members are universally rejected by the public. One thing public ask me repeatedly, is if Scientology attacks it’s ex members who speak out? The public knows this goes on and frowns on it.

    Marty’s so public now, he just needs to land in a community that is computer literate, and he’ll be fine!

    Thanks for staying so on top of Scientology, like no one in the movement’s history!

    • Vistaril

      Ahh . . . right, “public support”. I was wondering why Marty’s own version of why he’s moved was dripping with sorrow, sacrifice, hints of racism, and complete with a blues soundtrack. It is, of course, the playing of classic Scientology “Victim Card”™. Given that Marty has pretty much avoided any thing like the level of harrassment other ex-Scientologists and critics have received received, the framing of this narrative is obviously a manipulation to garner wog HE&R. Well played, Marty.

      As to what’s really going on and where he’s off to, cock?nostril.

      My bet is that he’s going to move closer to one of the InDependent training centres in LA. That will position him front and centre to David Miscavige – a sort of “bring it on” challenge – as well as allow him to start whale hunting to get some notables movin’ on up his version of the Bridge To Xenu. Alternatively, he may just disappear into the shadows to prepare for the inevitable “resignation” of David Miscavige and a possible third re-launch of the cult as reformed and suitablly contrite,

      Interesting times, indeed.

      • blissfulldreams

        Ahh . . . right, “public support”. I was wondering why Marty’s own version of why he’s moved was dripping with sorrow, sacrifice, hints of racism, and complete with a blues soundtrack. It is, of course, the playing of classic Scientology “Victim Card”™.

        smarmy marty has and always will be a victim off sciontology from the first day he got interested in it, He is nothing without it he would not even know who he is as a person if the cult came tumbling down it’s his life!

        sad really

    • deselby88

      If Marty moves near me, I will be making tea and cookies for the goons. I’ll try to find some low fat recipies because some of those squirrel busters look a bit on the pudgy side.

  • Enkindled

    No matter what anybody says about Marty, that was a cool post he made, and a good Buddy Guy video.

    • burythenuts

      Is there a bad Buddy Guy anything?
      Lulz….that is not even possible!

      • Enkindled

        That is a true datum.

        • observer

          I must ask, Enkindled … is your name a ME reference?

          • Enkindled

            He he, you nailed it:)

            • observer

              :-)

              Have you played Dead Space? There’s a cult in it that bears more than a passing resemblance to Scn …

            • Enkindled

              @observer,

              Of course, the Cult of Unitology!!!

            • observer

              Excellent!

              I couldn’t believe when I was in the Unitology offices and indoctrination center in the second one. The resemblance to the org pics I’ve seen was uncanny, as are Unitology’s methods. I have to give Scientology the nod for creepiness, though, since it’s real.

  • Sindy Fagen

    Ingleside on the Bay was more than gracious and full of class — the exact opposite of the cult. Thank you for your hospitality!

  • Daverator

    You can’t buy this kind of entertainment! I can’t wait for the next chapter. Your move, Miscabbage.

  • Observer

    No doubt the “church” will consider this a victory, and maybe it seems like one considering how their dwindling spiral is accelerating, but unless the Marcab Confederacy sends a ship for him Marty will simply take up residence elsewhere on this planet. Hopefully it will be somewhere even more hostile to Scn than Ingleside on the Bay, and less accessible to Squirrel Busters.

    • Enkindled

      The “church” probably still has to pay the 3 year lease for their spy-house in IOB.

      • ortegaunderground

        In fact, that was something Marty pointed out to me (I think in October) when he figured that part out — that Miscavige is on the hook for that house no matter what happens. In retrospect, that now seems like a clue that Marty was thinking of leaving and sticking DM with the bill for a house that would then become useless. Ha.

        • burythenuts

          Marty is way more cunning than he has been given credit for.
          me thinks anyhow!!!

          • Sindy Fagen

            Yes, and then possibly he can give his new neighbors the heads up well before DM can get his claws into another community. He’ll learn he’s not operating in avacuum.

            The world can see you Miscavige. Give it up.

          • bm

            “burythenuts
            on November 30, 2012 at 6:37 pm said:
            Marty is way more cunning than he has been given credit for.
            me thinks anyhow!!!”

            RESPONSE: Rathburn must love that rock star feeling having fanatical devotees like you fawning over him. Your making that older mans day :-)

            • burythenuts

              Ooh yes, he is my rock star BM!
              I am a fanatical devotee.
              I fawn.
              I flirt.
              I flirt with everybody BM. Do you have an Engram or something? Or a with hold?
              Come on BM…what are your crimes?
              You need a sec check? Pick up my cans BM…

            • bm

              “I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet…”
              “burythenuts”

            • Spectator

              Aaron?

            • Tory Christman (Magoo)

              My guess is YOU, bm, not only have an awful “nick” (Please…face it…it describes you perfectly so far,now that I think of it)…but also
              You seem VERY VERY Hung up on this “Rock Star” status. You tried (and Failed) to run that on me, too…as well as the attention line.

              So this tells me one thing: YOU probably have a secret dream to be a Rock Star…and you dearly crave attention.

              You don’t really have anything to “Add” here re Marty, so you figure you’ll just tear people apart? Yeah—-that’s Scientology! That’s the tech! You’re really helping mankind now, bm. Actually, why don’t you go take a bm….and after try reading. You’re not good at this, at ALL. Tory/Magoo

          • SKETTO

            No, I think Marty has always been obviously cunning. This is my criticism against him. He has left Miscavige’s version of Hubbard’s craziness, but he still adheres to the same Hubbardian fuck-your-enemies life attitude. He always has. His version of Scientology is less nasty, but as with everything that sprang from Hubbard, the dangers are still latent within. And Marty will always fit in well with Hubbard’s paranoid and angry approach to life.

        • victoria

          Davey just ginning up for his new rental business, which is the obvious result of so many special properties he has bought up with donations.

        • Helmuth, speaking for Boskone

          Miscavige won’t mind having that house. He’s well known for collecting useless buildings.

        • OutandAbout

          Being on the hook for the lease is no big deal to Miscavage, considerably less than pocket change and besides he gets all the operational dough donated to him by the Koolaid crew.

    • Whydothespikesfacein

      “No doubt the “church” will consider this a victory, and maybe it seems like one considering how their dwindling spiral is accelerating, but unless the Marcab Confederacy sends a ship for him Marty will simply take up residence elsewhere on this planet. Hopefully it will be somewhere even more hostile to Scn than Ingleside on the Bay, and less accessible to Squirrel Busters.”
      – This comment just made my day, LOL! Every once and a while I step back and realize how ridiculous this all is. The human rights abuses are serious I know, but why does this scam work on people!?, and if you ask that question you have to ask why ANY religion works. It’s all fairy tails

  • Alanzo

    I hope that Marty can use this on his list of damages in the lawsuit he files against David Miscavige.

    Talk about Clash of the Titans.

    Rathbun vs. Miscavige will be the epic battle to end all epic battles.

    Alanzo

    • burythenuts

      Alanzo, I know you have issues (well warranted ones) with the MR’s. But this is fucking cool.
      It ain’t over this it is over…and time is on OUR side.
      High five buddy!

      • Alanzo

        Are my issues *that* noticeable?

        I might have to wear a girdle or something.

        Any way, what is amazing about this assholishness by DM is that it does NOTHING for the Church of Scientology in any way. It is solely directed at reducing Marty and Monique’s quality of life in their home – and nothing else.

        He will follow them to their next home, and then Marty will have a clear pattern of stalking/menacing harrassment/whatever and he can fully slam DM legally.

        At least I hope he can.

        Because if there is one thing I love watching, it’s Marty, Mike and Dave fighting each other. It makes all the fair game for all the people they fucked over for 25 years appear to have at least some sense of karmic justice.

        Alanzo

        • Sindy Fagen

          My opinion? Why sure, I’ll thrust that upon everyone – lol.

          My opinion is that Marty in no way would ever back down and just high tail it — no way.

          There’s a method to the madness, I’m sure.

          • observer

            And I can’t wait to see what he’s got up his sleeve!

          • Alanzo

            I would totally agree with that.

            Marty does nothing dissonant with his Strat Plan.

            If there is one thing I have to give to Marty Rathbun, he is the Ultimate Student of Sun-Tzu.

            Alanzo

          • SKETTO

            Method? Yeah, as prescribed by Hubbard. It’s interesting watching two of Hubbard’s purest creations – the asshole Miscavige and his former enforcer Rathbun – try to fuck each other while using techniques designed by a certifiable megalomaniacal loon, who just couldn’t stop making crazy shit up. Someone should commission a triptych with the three of them – a perfect trio of misanthropy.

        • dennis l erlich

          “It makes all the fair game for all the people they fucked over for 25 years appear to have at least some sense of karmic justice.”

          Speak for yourself, Alonzo. Karma won’t appear balanced til those of us they f*cked over watch all three scumbags float by.

          • Alanzo
          • Robin Scott Cl IV Clear OT

            I’m with you, Dennis – as usual, my friend! I’m delighted to see Marty the victim of exactly the same harassment that he dished out to so many of us for all those years – for which he has never apologised or made amends. What goes around, comes around. Karma’s a bitch! Schadenfreude!

            • Andie

              So fair game is OK now as long as we don’t like the victim? Fair game is ugly stuff,and primary reason a lot of people became critics.

        • Derek Bloch

          In my opinion Miscavige does what he does to satisfy his own sick urges. He derives some kind of perverted pleasure from doing the things he does. He is a sadist.

          • Alanzo

            Miscavige is a total product of L Ron Hubbard’s Scientology. He grew up in it and was taught at Hubbard’s knee. He might not have been appointed COB by L Ron Hubbard, but he was made the head of Author Services by him, and he was made head of the “All Clear” project by LRH, as well.

            That he ended up the head of the Church of Scientology is just….natural. Don’t you think?

            Alanzo

            • Tessa

              Maybe Miscavige is a sadist, it looks that way. But it is also true that he got all the space to dramatize it from his master Hubbard. I would say that Miscabard copied to a certain extent Hubbard’s way do doing things.

    • Enkindled

      And with all the fishing and family/ friends time, Rathbun is a hell of a lot more normal, balanced and human at this point.

      • Alanzo

        That is probably true.

  • Jgg2012

    I think Marty is going to leak more damaging info about Davey.

  • Oyster Bay

    Someday David Miscumbag and his band of brainwashed idiots who behave like vengeful kindergartners will get their comeuppance for all of this stupidity.

  • Mila Minderbinder

    Don’t cry for me Argentina….I’m sure Marty will keep his blog running. I’m bet he is just moving to a more secure location.

    • burythenuts

      Mila,
      I had an EIGHT MONTH ear-worm with that stupid song!
      I had to sing it Full Throttle every time I took a shower.
      I finally replaced it a with nice soft version of Amazing Grace… (think Meryl Streep’s version in Silkwood).

      Thanks,!!!!
      Thanks SO MUCH MILA MINDERBINDER….
      I am screwed all over again.!

      • Mila Minderbinder

        LOL
        Just for the record – I hate that song. I’m always using it in a sarcastic context. Oh, and Madonna’s version of this song was atrocious.
        But yeah….back to Marty. He’s got the blues.

        • Oyster Bay

          Did you hear the “Miami Mix” of Madonna’s version? Talk about atrocious…

          • Burythenuts

            NOooooooooooo Madonna NO.

            Patti Lupone!

            • trustmeonthis

              Yes! Patti Lupone! Saw her in it w Mandy Patinkin on the 1st run tour!

      • Jens TINGLEFF

        When all else fails: “The Windmills of Your Mind” – but that cure might be worse than the disease :(

        • Sherbet

          I can’t believe you mentioned Windmills. My husband has been humming that for days.

  • Sidney18511

    What a shame, IOB is such a beautiful area, and his house on the water is heaven sent. They must be sick to their stomach moving from such a lovely house.

    • Boson Stark

      IOB was a nice place to KSW but there was one too many PTS around.

  • a victim

    I once was a victim of Mr. Rathbun’s Office of Special Affairs. It was pure horror. And although he is now going through the same drama, I do not feel satisfaction. I feel he has changed, and so I wish him well. And I wish him strength, love and wisdom and all the good things under the sun, moon and stars. Maybe one day I’ll ask him if he has a copy of the program that was run on me. And I wish that someone uncover, what it is, that this so-called church can do what they do. Is there no legal system in the U.S. except the money-will-buy-you-everything?

    • victoria

      I agree. I feel at once delighted and bitter. In my day, you just suffered pretty much. Today, it’s a sideshow. “Hey, look another P.I.!” Grab the camera, YUM, youtube.”

      They leave a dark legacy, compared to now, the 80’s were their own kind of dark age, and that’s obviously the only reason the $hurch every got away with this murder.

    • sugarplumfairy

      @a victim

      I admire you.. I hope you’ve managed well.. You’re a much stronger person than most of us..

    • Tessa

      Dear ‘victim’,
      your post shows that you are not ‘a victim’ anymore, on the contrary, you show a greatness of spirit few people would be able to.

  • Enkindled

    If I were to imagine a place for Marty to move that would be filled with people that are sick of scientologists, I guess I would pick CLEARWATER!!!! Maybe that’s a bad choice, if the police are bought, but we know the normal citizens there are sick of having their town ruined by the cult. He would have lots of allies, and a political presence, which would intimidate the cult.

    • Alanzo

      I hear the old Lisa McPherson Trust space is empty.

      • burythenuts

        OMG…what a spectacular Fuck You that would be!.
        OK,.. it is probably a dream…..but a wildly wonderful one.

        • Jgg2012

          Actually, that’s a great idea. Lots of Scientologists can defect and become Indies. Marty knows where all the bones are buried and can release embarrassing info about everyone, plus he can sue Davey there and the jury will be filled with “normal citizens” who are sick of the cult.

    • deElizabethan

      I’ll second that! Yes, the old Lisa place is empty. Sure would be fun for us all in Clearwater and a big stick up Mudscabbage’s ass and OSA. Also a FAIL faster. The scio public or staff wouldn’t know who’s SP, so could be Very interesting.

  • Tracy

    Sorry. I think there is more to this story. I think Rathbun wants you all to think he’s a nice guy leaving for the sake of his neighbors. He’s gone on for years about not letting “them win”. Now all of a sudden he’s leaving. I call bullshit.
    It’s a long journey to this Texas town for his followers. Think about all the independent cult auditing and $$ he can rake in when he’s closer to a major transportation hub. Just wait.

    • Enkindled

      He was less than 30 minutes from Corpus Christ International Airport. I fail to see your point.

      • Tracy

        Wow….really? Hopping Corpus Christi? Good luck finding a non-stop flight not to mention the cost. Hey Marty….if you move closer to a major hub your culties will pay more for your services. Just sayin’.

  • Boson Stark

    My guess is Beverly… Hills that is — movie stars, swimming pools.

    Before WordPress choked on my comment, I wrote that it would be some place “secluded.” I read Marty’s post on this and it seems like with the new spy residents are showing the confederate flag symbol. Miscavige must have some kind of desire to attract national TV coverage and a swift collapse to his cult. He really knows how to push it too far, doesn’t he?

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    He’ll stay on Teegeeack. Maybe he will go to Amsterdam. Maybe he’ll go to Rome. Maybe he’ll rent a grand piano and put flowers round his room.

    Really, though, I was hoping his war with Miscavige would go on forever. I hope he doesn’t move to close to me. I don’t think the neighbourhood could survive his brand of spiritual enlightenment.

    • trustmeonthis

      Oh, let’s not talk about fare-thee-wells now. The night is a starry dome! And they’re playing that scratchy rocknroll beneath the Matala moon…!

  • Chocolate Velvet

    The whole confederate flag thing really takes it to another level. As a black/latina sistah with a white husband, let me just assure you all that this would be some uncomfortable, potentially infuriating shit. Even if Marty and Monique decided they could take it, how can they justify inflicting rednecks on their neighbors? That’s not cool.

    Good on them for keeping their cool and just moving away. I would want to stab a motherfucker. Seriously. ;)

    • victoria

      I imagine Mosey has had her fair share of input into the new location. Life can’t just be all “agenda.”

    • Alanzo

      It is really sick.

      It is the ultimate expression of Scientology Fair Game in action: Find the racial buttons, the personal buttons, the cultural buttons, any button that you can – and push it HARD to shudder your target into silence, or to make them implode, or best yet, to kill themselves if you can get away with it.

      L Ron Hubbard taught these people to be extremely evil.

      • bm

        Alanzo

        Is it lost on you that anti-scientologists practice their own version of “fair game”? It might not look like or go to the extremes that a billion $ entity could take it but on a smaller scale, you practice it with a vengeance. To be an anti-scientologist means you can say and do things towards a scientologist, that you would never do to a person in the real world, because it is justified and necessary to protect the worlds in your minds. The end justifies the means in this group.

        • Alanzo

          You know, BM, one of the tactics of a Scientologist is that when an abuse or criminal action is exposed in a discussion on the internet, such as lying to people about what “we of the Church believe” by hanging the Creed of the Church on the wall of every org and mission, the Scientologist will say “Everybody lies! All religions lie to their members about their beliefs!”

          It’s a very interesting thing to watch.

          It is, of course, fully logically fallacious and nothing but an attempt to justify the fraud that Scientology commits on people, and/or to distract the discussion off of Scientology’s fraudulent activity. But when the Scientologist can work in a personal attack on the speaker, and somehow make it seem like the critic himself commits fraud, that seems to be a very satisfying thing to the Scientologist.

          They think it means that Scientology does not commit fraud, critics do! Or if Scientology commits fraud then it’s okay because everyone commits fraud on this insane prison planet. Or something, I don’t know.

          It doesn’t work, though. It never has. But just like the Scientology used to “help” Lisa McPherson, the Scientologist will keep applying it robotically, over and over, because they believe they will protect the route to total freedom, or because they were taught that “Scientology works” and if it is not working that only means you must keep applying it.

          You know what this means, don’t you? It means that Scientologists become cookie cutter personalities when they adopt the Scientology mindset, and just like the Scientolgists who killed Lisa McPherson, it means that they can not think or observe any more in present time. They can only think with the ideology of Scientology and can no longer observe anything for themselves.

          They lost their individuality when they became Scientologists, and they are not likely to get it back until they can think for themselves again, without the fixed thought patterns of the Scientology ideology in their minds constantly telling them what to do, and what to say.

          It is a major liability to adopt any ideology to do your thinking for you, but it is especially hard to escape when you become a Scientologist.

          It doesn’t mean you have fewer rights in society. And it doesn’t mean that you are necessarily less of a person. You still exist down there as a whisper, beneath all those suffocating Scientology commandments.

          You really do.

          • bm

            Alanzo

            I have NEVER been inside a co$ office nor given a penny of my $ nor minute of my time to the co$ and never would, nor do I personally know anyone who has. I am just someone who thinks that there should be more critics of critics on the internet and that that would not be a bad thing.

            I also think your argument is weak. I think there is something of value to see that a community of critics says and does many things that they are accusing others of means something and does weaken and make the critics campaign suspicious and worth discussing as a phenomena. Like priests that rail against gay marriage or sexuality and are then found out to be seeing prostitutes or dressing up in drag. Examining the critics is invalidated and attacked by critics how AMAZINGLY convenient for the critic community. Like wow!

            • Alanzo

              Well BM, let me see if I can fully duplicate and understand your criticism, then.

              Critics of Scientology do the same things that they accuse Scientology of doing.

              Is that your argument?

            • bm

              “Alanzo
              on December 1, 2012 at 11:40 am said:
              Well BM, let me see if I can fully duplicate and understand your criticism, then.

              Critics of Scientology do the same things that they accuse Scientology of doing.

              Is that your argument?”

              Alanzo. no two things are exactly the same. My argument might be that critics have more in common with the the thing they are criticizing then is apparent at a superficial glance and that it is worth including that in the over all debate rather then saying some version of : “oh they are bad we are good” and “we are smart and they are mindless blobs”, “we are living our lives voluntarily and they are too duped to do anything voluntarily” and we are savvy and knows what is what and they are not” and on and one, one sided dramatized schoolyard finger pointing. It is not hard to see that critics behave in ways that closely resemble behaviours they are charging others with. Obviously it is on a smaller scale but human tendencies are very similar. And I argue that this is worth shining a light on.

            • Alanzo

              All right. I think that, to a degree, you are right to try to point out actual abuse by critics when it occurs.

              But you accused me of applying Fair Game to the Church of Scientology and Scientologists. In fact you said that I practice fair game “with a vengeance”.

              Here is what Fair Game, as applied by Scientologists to their victims, actually means:

              “By FAIR GAME is meant, may not be further protected by the codes and disciplines or the rights of a Scientologist…The homes, property, places and abodes of persons who have been active in attempting to: suppress Scientology or Scientologists are all beyond any protection of Scientology Ethics, unless absolved by later Ethics or an amnesty … this Policy Letter extends to suppressive non-Scientology wives and husbands and parents, or other family members or hostile groups or even close friends.”

              http://en.wikipediaDOTorg/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology)

              Actual instances of Fair Game being carried out by Scientologists under the command of L Ron Hubbard’s Scientology are very well documented, and available to you on the Internet and in court documents, and none of those acts of Fair Game include what I do, and what I write.

              So your accusation, that I, as a guy who writes stuff on the Internet, am applying Scientology “Fair Game” is completely idiotic. And your attempt to make my postings equivalent to the things that the Church of Scientology has done to its victims is an idiotic failure.

              People who think with and apply L Ron Hubbard’s tech and policy of Fair Game have a decades-long history of criminality and abuse of innocent people who are attempting to expose the truth about Scientology so that innocent people may not be harmed by them.

              You are saying that the victim is the same as the perpetrator. And that is another typical Scientology tactic.

              If you are going to be a critic of critics, then you are going to have to do better than to try to robotically apply L Ron Hubbard’s “The Criminal Mind” HCOB to what I write.

              And until it is apparent that you can think for yourself, and without the Scientology thought patterns rattling through your brain, I am going to ignore you.

              So here’s the thing you have to do now, BM, to get my attention: Stop dramatizing Scientology tech and policy and show that you are a unique individual, capable of independent thought.

              Start!

              Alanzo

            • bm

              Alanzo

              I have told you that I have nothing to do with the co$ but you continue to project your fixation on to me. You have no choice but to see/hear everything in this exchange through a “LRH” “co$” prism, or filter. IMO your fixation leaves you blinded. When in doubt, label something “Scientology thought patterns ” and you can just ignore it. You do not see it but your foot is nailed to the floor and you will be attached to co$, thinking you are not, for many years to come. You never left the so called “church” my friend, but you are still entangled and unknowingly, being informed by it.

            • bm

              @Alanzo

              “But you accused me of applying Fair Game to the Church of Scientology and Scientologists. In fact you said that I practice fair game “with a vengeance”.”

              RESPONSE: Yes, and below is what I read and was thinking of when I said that:

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology)

              “Individuals or groups who are “Fair Game” are judged to be a threat to the Church and, according to the policy, can be punished and harassed using any and all means possible”

              I see your group punishing and harassing the Church of Scientology and Scientologists using any and all means possible. Obviously both you and the co$ are limited as this is not a horror movie, but they use the means available to them being a billion $ entity and you use the means available to you, not being a billion $ entity. The scale of actions is different but the intent is the same – you label them a threat that must be stopped and that justifies all kinds of obnoxious conduct by your community. Maybe not you personally but I am talking about your group.

          • bm

            And Alanzo

            Like I said, you think you are better than, smarter than, more savvy, more elevated, and superior to Sceintologists and they should listen to you on how to live and what to do and say with their lives. And so should law enforcement. If only they would listen to you. Clearly you perceive yourself as someone who is not a cookie cutter personality, you have a free mindset, only you in your largess can think and observe in the present time and your thinking is not stuck in one ideology, only you can observe life for yourself.

            The arrogance.

            “You know what this means, don’t you? It means that Scientologists become cookie cutter personalities when they adopt the Scientology mindset, and just like the Scientolgists who killed Lisa McPherson, it means that they can not think or observe any more in present time. They can only think with the ideology of Scientology and can no longer observe anything for themselves.”

            • Enkindled

              You don’t know what the hell you are talking about, kid.

              Criticizing people for calling out criminal abuses is worthless and stupid.

              The only person demonstrating astounding arrogance is you.

              Or perhaps this is a high school psych project for you. Fascinating. Perhaps one of the many Ph.D.s who post their valid criticism here can help you out.

        • Elizabeth

          BM: I am new to this whole Scientology debate, only having started to read about it a few weeks ago. Of all the commentary I’ve read so far, and believe me there’s a heckuva lot of it, yours makes the least sense. You add nothing to the substance of the discussion. You are ill-informed about the topic, just for starters, and seem to have what I call a “contrarian” agenda. By this I mean that you rather gratuitously contradict almost every contribution, however well thought out, just for heck of it, without contributing anything thoughtful or original to the conversation. To me this speaks to your personal psychological issues much more than to any honest and sincere philosophical viewpoint you might have. In view of this, I would invite you to seek counselling rather than continue to aggressively intrude into what is otherwise a calm and interesting exchange on a current and timely topic about which you have no knowledge and into which you apparently have very little insight. In brief, you do not add value, so what are you doing here?

          • bm

            @ Elizabeth

            “BM: I am new to this whole Scientology debate, only having started to read about it a few weeks ago. Of all the commentary I’ve read so far, and believe me there’s a heckuva lot of it, yours makes the least sense.”

            RESPONSE: If you would care to expand, specifically what did I say that did not make sense (to you)? Maybe I can clarify.

            “You add nothing to the substance of the discussion.”

            RESPONSE: Is that so? But all the angry insulting mocking personal diatribes aimed at co$ and “I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet…” comments occur as “substance” and unworthy of your commentary? Interesting. You and I definitely have two different ideas of what constitutes substance. I thought my asking people how they defined “involuntary” as it pertains to RPF as both sensible as well as reasonable contribution to the posts here.

            “You are ill-informed about the topic”

            RESPONSE: If you are genuine when you say ” I am new to this whole Scientology debate, only having started to read about it a few weeks ago.” how would you be in a position to know that I am ” ill-informed about the topic”?

            ” just for starters, and seem to have what I call a “contrarian” agenda.”

            RESPONSE: Actually, you are the one being contrarian, is that lost on you here?

            “By this I mean that you rather gratuitously contradict almost every contribution”,

            RESPONSE: “every”?

            “however well thought out,”

            RESPONSE: ok

            ” just for heck of it,

            RESPONSE: I do mean every word that I say and am not jst trying to be argumentative.

            “without contributing anything thoughtful or original to the conversation.”

            RESPONSE: Your opinion.

            “To me this speaks to your personal psychological issues much more than to any honest and sincere philosophical viewpoint you might have.”

            RESPONSE: Bullshit

            ” In view of this, I would invite you to seek counselling rather than continue to aggressively intrude into what is otherwise a calm and interesting exchange on a current and timely topic about which you have no knowledge and into which you apparently have very little insight.

            RESPONSE: More bullshit.

            “In brief, you do not add value,”

            RESPONSE: Your opinion.

            “so what are you doing here?”

            RESPONSE: I do not answer passive aggressive bullshitters question.

            • grundoon

              You did in fact write a RESPONSE to every question. And you did exactly as Elizabeth predicted, continuing to “rather gratuitously contradict almost every contribution, however well thought out, just for heck of it, without contributing anything thoughtful or original to the conversation.” Well ok, you did say “your opinion,” and “bullshit,” setting the bm standard of thoughtfulness and originality.

              Come on and raise your game. If you want to succeed as a troll in this community, you’ll have to do way better.

            • bm

              grundoon

              RESPONSE: bullshit

            • Enkindled

              BM = failed troll

            • deElizabethan

              BM = repeated Failed Troll

            • dylan

              One interesting thing that I noticed in all of this. BM used the words Present time. In the context a scientologist would. For one that has never been around anyone or inside of an org. How would you pick up on the cult speak.

              I have been out for years and I still have the cult speak. My wife was never in and she never uses cult speak.

              BM your efforts to distract this thread were pretty silly. I really hope it got your stats up and you do not have to do lowers this week.

              if you decide to get out please look me up and we can get a pint. my treat.

    • Flunk

      Are you for real?
      As a Black /Latina “‘sistah'” … you would want to “stab a motherfucker”?
      Let me tell you something about celebrity – you don’t get to define yourself – the Audience does that for you.
      Remember when Michelle Bachmann went on Jimmy Fallon and the house band, “The Roots”, played Fishbone’s “Lying’ Ass Bitch”?
      That was a lesson in celebrity.

  • Enkindled

    Marty just released all the pending comments on his blog from this evening, so I guess he’s going to keep it up.

  • Boson Stark

    We’ll know something’s really fishy if Marty moves to Guadalupe.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      God, I was just thinking of that, except in Baja, Mexico. That would sure get Miscavige’s scotch quotas up for the year. It would be So KSW, aligning with Debbie Cook. And how about easier protection from laws, and cheaper to actually hire a full time P.I. team. He should start his Own PI company. It’s what he is good at. No, really. You just can’t beat Mexican wages with U.S., especially L.A. wages. He could run his PI staff like any mission, fire a 3-legged team out for every one Miscavige unleashes. Debbie could reg and fundraise for Marty’s Dicks salaries and other staff could run the Niacin Lounge and Mindmeld Resort. I’m seeing an Indie Colony in the distance.

      Nothing on TV as good as this.

      • Alanzo

        “Debbie could reg and fundraise for Marty’s Dicks salaries and other staff could run the Niacin Lounge and Mindmeld Resort. I’m seeing an Indie Colony in the distance.”

        LOL!

      • nobs

        ROFLMAO

      • Beacon

        Better yet, any church lackeys who show up at his place in Mexico might just “disappear” . . . . . .

      • grundoon

        Genius!

  • deanblair06

    I hope he moves to Austin. There are numerous ex-scientologists here and independent OTs. There is a lot of land available and it is inexpensive. He could get a small ranch with some acreage and his guests could stay there. Cameras wouldn’t be able to be set up as all of the surrounding property would be Marty’s. San Antonio is also good. That is where the Alamo is located. He might have to change the name of “Casa Blanca” to the “Alamo”. Gonzales, Texas might be a fitting location. That is where the Texans battled Mexico and when the Mexicans asked for the canon back that had been given as a gift, the Texans replied “Come and take it” and won the fight. Where ever Marty goes, it will be interesting.

  • Derek Bloch

    I must repeat my sentiment from yesterday’s post. How can organization like this is allowed to operate in this manner in a country that considers itself the heart of the free world is beyond me. They literally harassed this man out of his home. It is so sad, disheartening and unbelievable. It makes me angry.

    • Mrs. Mutton Chops

      Derek Bloch, Esq., future Attorney General

      You would make a great lawyer, dude.

      • Mrs. Mutton Chops

        * I meant that in a good way. :) You are very eloquent and intelligent.

    • Ze Moo

      Using Private Investigators is not illegal. You could hire one and investigate any one or any organization you want. Lawyers frequently use them for all sorts of things. What has been done recently to Marty and Mosey is just low key harassment. The squirrel busters and other harassers are supposed to be the high pressure aimed right at Marty AND anyone else who might have similar ideas.

      In recent years, the Co$ has used private investigators to keep their activities an arms length away from the official church. Then they use their own members for the public harassment. All part of Hubbard’s fair game sacrament. They haven’t been caught framing people for crimes like growing marijuana or making bomb threats for several years. The CO$ dirty tricks department has been quiet lately, probably because Davey doesn’t trust anyone in his shop to do such things.

      The dwarfenfürher is much safer by using PIs and others outside the scamatology bubble for his dirty work. The recent publicity of these events is educating the public about the churches tactics and morals. If I were a big contributor to any scamatology entity, I’d be howling for Davey’s head. He has done nothing but bring disrepute to the CO$.

  • Mary McConnell

    I don’t blame them for moving. Marty has stated before that it’s died down to almost nothing but since the recent revelation about the lowlife private investigator renting the house across the street for the next three years while the guy films the Rathbuns home 24/7 – ( re: Article on the PI’s and the camera found in the window and the 3 year lease the PI company has on the house.) it’s clear that it’s not worth it.

    One would think it would have been a given that the church would do this. Not sure why Marty didn’t figure this out long ago. Anyway, I’m sure they spent the last several months, since you all met with him and the two former scientology PIs, searching for a better location.

  • radiosurgery

    My guess is scientology checked him and he has taken a deal to pack up and leave.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Yep..

    • Califa

      That makes no sense.

    • Beacon

      no way

    • Tessa

      Not at all likely …

  • jeb

    Never forget that Marty is the one who started all this COS harrasment crap in the first place. He taught DM everything he knows. He has caused hundreds of families the same fate that he is now involved in. Maybe he is truly sorry, but I have never seen him apoligize to the people who lives he ruined. In my opinion, he just looking for money doing the bogus auditing for thousands of dollars per session for the independant scientologists. He really is just a con man. He will never say anything critical of LRH, because hes using his bullshit to get rich, and doesnt want to see all the money going to corporate Scientology.

    • villagedianne

      I doubt if Marty was around or in charge during the Paulette Cooper era. COS already knew plenty about surveillance and harrassment before Marty. Only difference is that now they use outside investigators instead of their own people. Less risky legally.

      • trustmeonthis

        Right, and they can hire professionals.

      • deElizabethan

        Right. Marty was not around during all the earlier shit which some isn’t even known about. They stopped using their sheep because they lost many in the process. Now they pay non-scio’s. They are losing ether way.

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      Rathbun has a huge amount to answer for, but Hubbard started the policy of intimidating those who disagreed with him.

      • Jens TINGLEFF

        Agreed

      • observer

        Seconded

    • dennis l erlich

      Yes, that’s the Marty who harassed those who spoke out against the cult for years.

      • Boson Stark

        But he didn’t start it Dennis. He was just following orders.

        • jeb

          The Nazi’s were just following orders too. thats no excuse.

    • deElizabethan

      Not true. Hubboard started all this with written up dox for GO and OSA just use the same.

  • sizzle8

    I hope he finds a place right across from Big Blue in front of ASHO and next to AOLA.

  • Enkindled

    New Tobin and Childs article up!!!!!!!!!

  • Altruism

    Isn’t a restraining order possible?

  • villagedianne

    I think Marty has his own reasons for leaving. Maybe he wants to start a fledgeling sort of “Independent Org” somewhere. I don’t think this move is related directly to the surveillance and harrassment. He knows he will be watched wherever he goes, though it also makes sense to go to a place where there are few near neighbors.

    • villagedianne

      Just read Marty’s site. Now I am not so sure about what I wrote above. The confederate thing is really creepy. Sounds like they were trying to goad Marty into taking a swing at the guy.

      • Jens TINGLEFF

        “Inconceivable!”

  • Enkindled

    Not to detract from the great work from Ortega, or Tobin and Childs, but there is another article up:

    http://www.caller.com/news/2012/nov/30/former-scientology-official-in-ingleside-on-the/

    • Enkindled

      Quote from the Caller-Times article:

      “Stunning to Rathbun was how Ingleside on the Bay rallied around him, decrying the Squirrel Busters and standing up for his right to privacy and freedom of religion, even amid all the weirdness.”

      • OttoR

        Marty successfully applied Hubbard’s public opinion influencing tech, whereas Miscavige is flubbing.

        Marty is a better manipulator than Miscavige, but Hubbard was better than the two of them combined.

        • Mrs. Mutton Chops

          I respectfully disagree, Otto. The support from Marty and Mosey’s community toward them was that of empathy and compassion. L. Ron Hubbard was not an advocate of either.

  • deElizabethan

    I don’t blame him for leaving and finding a new home. DM will have a harder time keeping track of the ‘on the fence’ members who want less expensive auditing, in a newer more secure location.

  • Enkindled

    And also a new video news report, identified by Marty on his site:

    http://www.kztv10.com/videos/former-scientology-leader-forced-to-leave-local-home-kztv/

  • flabbergastronomy

    So a question is whether a more secluded or less secluded location will give him what he wants. In a more secluded location, you have to completely block every camera angle from a very long distance away if you want to have privacy from cameras. Look at what just happened to the British royal family in France. I’m sure they thought they had privacy.

    And If you have lots of land around you and no close neighbors, then there are no witnesses if someone is trespassing on your land and official help is farther away. And if you have only one road or driveway on to your property, then it’s easy to post someone along the connecting road who could see you every time you drive by.

    Assuming that Marty is making a living from doing both interviews and auditiing, he needs to be somewhere that people who want his services can get to him with reasonable ease. Being too remote would make that hard.

    He could have put mirror film in his own windows at the old house and trained cameras back at those that were trained on his windows. Or he could have shined very bright focused lights into the lenses of those cameras which would have whited-out the recorded image.

    But certainly another campaign of goons could seem like too much. But if Miscavige bribes people in credit card companies and banks and phone companies to give his detectives information, it’s a given that Marty will be located and stalked again. And since Miscavige spied on Pat Broeker for decades, there’s no reason why he won’t do so to Marty too.

    So where to go? I don’t know. But being very remote could feel a bit scary and isolated – too few witnesses and too far from help if they are attacked physically. I’d hate to find guys camping in the woods all around me if I were out in the middle of nowhere. Way too scary and vulnerable. And guards at gated communities can be bought.

    Well, Marty has lived by this same sword and now it’s turned against him. Payback time. I wish them well, for his wife’s sake as well as for his. As though being black in the U.S. isn’t hard enough.

  • dodothelaser

    Love this from Marty’s comment section:

    “LDW | November 30, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Reply

    “Confederate flag?” Would have been more appropriate to see a hammer and sickle or a swastika.

    10/0

    mrinder | November 30, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Reply

    Or an S and double triangle?

    26/1

    Scott Campbell | November 30, 2012 at 11:38 pm | Reply

    Now, now, Mike…

    1/0″

    I smile.

    • Alanzo

      I smile, too.

      Mike Rinder being upbraided by a poster to Marty’s blog for correctly categorizing Scientology as a totalitarian ideology like communism and Nazism.

      Criticizing Scientology.

      Hey Mikey! He likes it!!!

  • bm

    What about this? You all keeping mum about one of you advocating the murder of others?Is that how you are? Silent about other’s being harmed or threatened with harm? Doesn’t sound like you at all.

    “I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet…”
    “burythenuts”

    • burythenuts

      Yep, I said that and I meant it!
      I did not ADVOCATE THE MURDER of anyone BM.
      I said just what you quoted. WORD FUCKING CLEAR MY STATEMENT!!!

      When you have a psychotic abusive sadistic prick pulling all the crap he has over the years and all the harm he has done to people….He is damn lucky that no one snapped and killed him. Damn Lucky! Some people have tempers and some just go for vengance.

      And yeah, If I had been the woman in that phone booth that he attacked with that crowbar..and I escaped like she did.
      I would be back baby!
      And I would bring something to the party that was much more damaging than that crowbar.
      But he didn’t do it to me! And he should thank his lucky little stars for THAT!

      • Sherbet

        Bury, save your breath. bm is here to twist words and turn accusations around until we’re supposedly the guilty parties. A troll is revisionist; rewriting the history of what cos has done and putting the blame on us in the classic, “What are YOUR crimes?” rhetoric. bm is more articulate than most, but he/she is still getting under everyone’s skin, and that means he/she wins. Shhhh….Ignore bm…let his/her orations be to an empty theater.

        • burythenuts

          Your right… But he really isn’t getting under my skin at all.
          I would invite him to come have a beer with me and continue this discussion…but I don’t think they will let him out of that little room he is locked in.
          So we will have to go without him.

          • stillgrace

            BTN, I’m with you.

            This troll is little more than a buzzing fly to me. So predictable. Such an obvious agenda. Ho hum.

            On the other hand, I truly enjoy reading Alanzo’s replies.

            What a knowledgeable, patient, logical, fair, and compassionate poster you are, Alanzo!! Even though I don’t always agree with everything you say, you have all my respect.

            • Sherbet

              OK, I see. Trolls make me spit nickels, but if you and Alanzo and others can do the job, by all means, carry on with your sensible rebuttals.

            • stillgrace

              Sherbert, I only read Alanzo’s responses. I admit I no longer read the troll’s posts (unless it’s a short one and it’s accidental). So they don’t bother me.

              If I did read them, I’d probably HAVE to spit a nickel or two! (I like that expression; never heard of it before!)

        • bm

          “Sherbet

          Bury, save your breath. bm is here to twist words”

          RESPONSE: Please show how I twisted anyone’s words. I quoted bury word for word.

          “and turn accusations around until we’re supposedly the guilty parties.”

          RESPONSE: Again please show how I turned “accusations around” until someone was the “guilty party”. I said that one of you was advocating and condoning and justifying killing and they were and still are.

          “A troll is revisionist; rewriting the history of what cos has done and putting the blame on us”

          RESPONSE: where did I do this?

          ” in the classic, “What are YOUR crimes?” rhetoric. ”

          RESPONSE: You are fixated on co$ and I did no such thing.

          “bm is more articulate than most,”

          RESPONSE: I am simply saying my piece. Are you all above criticism or if I am failing, are you all above my attempt at criticism?

          “but he/she is still getting under everyone’s skin, and that means he/she wins. Shhhh….Ignore bm…let his/her orations be to an empty theater.”

          RESPONSE: Playing the victim card?

      • bm

        “I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet…”

        “burythenuts”

        This kind of talk does not get a pass in my books. Clearly you feel justified and feel that that language is appropriate, given how you FEEL about the topic.

        Scary.

        • Mrs. Mutton Chops

          I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed the person who invented the troll sized cup holders in my car.

          I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed the person who created the stupid ringtone that my co-worker chose.

          I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed the person who designed hoochie mama style clothes for little girls, toddler size to miss teen.

        • dylan

          “does not get a pass” Really! could you stop speaking like a clam and then people might start listening. just a thought.

      • bm

        “burythenuts

        “Yep, I said that and I meant it!”

        RESPONSE: I get that you did. What shocks me is that your group here tolerates you and talk like that.

        “I did not ADVOCATE THE MURDER of anyone BM.

        RESPONSE: You did and you still are condoning the killing of someone and saying it would be justified both the action and your words. Again, what shocks me is that your group here tolerates you and talk like that.

        “I said just what you quoted. WORD FUCKING CLEAR MY STATEMENT!!!”

        RESPONSE: I do not know what jargon means, sorry. Try speaking english, it goes along way in normal society away from the co$.

        “When you have a psychotic abusive sadistic prick pulling all the crap he has over the years and all the harm he has done to people….He is damn lucky that no one snapped and killed him. Damn Lucky! Some people have tempers and some just go for vengance.”

        RESPONSE: Unsettling. You have made up a story and now relate to it as reality and use it to justify things like saying the above and “I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet…”, and then run around high fiving each other in your little group here, and wonder why some might label you a hate group. Again, what shocks me is that your group here tolerates you and the way you talk.

        • burythenuts

          Acknowledgement!:
          Now….what are the rest of the folks on this blog going to do? Even if they disagree with me like you do BM?
          Ban me for an opinion?
          Lynch me behind this keyboard?
          Would you like them all to scold me?
          Oh wait, Maybe you could declare me a OUSP and they will all disconnect from me?
          Would you like it If I said,… why BM…You are right and I am wrong. I see your point. Would you like that? Would it make any difference, especially if YOU knew it was BS? Do you prefer YOUR lies to MY truth?

          And please don’t tell me you don’t know the jargon BM. You have contradicted your ability to both understand it and utilize it several times.
          Actually I am glad you are here BM.
          I like to be challenged…At least you will try to do that.
          It keeps things interesting.

          Your move!

          • bm

            “burythenuts

            Acknowledgement!:
            Now….what are the rest of the folks on this blog going to do? Even if they disagree with me like you do BM?”

            RESPONSE: there is no right or wrong thing to do. I am saying that I observe that you and what you have said is tolerated here in this community. In the circle’s of society where I travel, people would take issue with what you said, here they do not. I wanted to point that our and did so.

            “Ban me for an opinion?”

            RESPONSE: Banning? Not necessary. How about just saying “hey, we love you and all but stop saying that ugly shit about “killing” people”

            “Lynch me behind this keyboard?”

            RESPONSE: I do not advocate “lynching” of others under any circumstances.

            “Would you like them all to scold me?”

            RESPONSE: Yes.

            “Oh wait, Maybe you could declare me a OUSP and they will all disconnect from me?”

            RESPONSE: More bullshit jargon. Your foot is nailed to the floor. It is funny how attached and informed you all are the the co$ and don’t see it.

            “Would you like it If I said,… why BM…You are right and I am wrong.”

            RESPONSE: What human being does not respond well to that? I would like it as much as the next person.

            “I see your point. Would you like that?”

            RESPONSE: Go for it.

            “Would it make any difference,”

            RESPONSE: Probably not.

            especially if YOU knew it was BS? Do you prefer YOUR lies to MY truth?

            RESPONSE: No either way. You make a difference and so do I but nothing you or I could say here would make the kind of difference I tend to assign value to.

            “And please don’t tell me you don’t know the jargon BM.”

            RESPONSE: Ok.

            “You have contradicted your ability to both understand it and utilize it several times.”

            RESPONSE: I have heard the same things everyone else has heard that floods popular media. I understand a few things, most of it sounds like BS to me. But I am an outsider that is pretty obvious from my posts.

            “Actually I am glad you are here BM.
            I like to be challenged…At least you will try to do that.
            It keeps things interesting.”

            RESPONSE: Ok.

            “Your move!”

            RESPONSE: Yes madam director.

            • burythenuts

              OK.
              BM, you are definitely interesting. Even if your “critic of critics” agenda is nonsensical.

              “Would you like them all to scold me?”
              RESPONSE: Yes.

              ^^^ favorite part…love the blunt honesty!
              I enjoyed your entire post.
              I got something I gotta do…I hope to cross foils with you again later.
              Cya.
              Out for now.

      • deElizabethan

        But I love your ROAR, BTN Keeps things light and fluffy and gives us a thrill to see you speak up. Of course it won’t do a thing for BM, but who knows. You have the freedom to say whatever you think. He doesn’t. You’re honest, he isn’t. I’ll listen to you any day, not to him. Your fun, he’s not!

        • bm

          How you internet conformist do love your gang bang /agreement party here One of you could fart and the rest of you cultists gather round to waft the sweet familiar fumes and high five each other. Spout some cliched hatred or spiteful gossip at the co$ and you will be greatly rewarded for your efforts, by the mob here.

          The biggest idiot here is me though, no argument. WTF do I hope to accomplish posting here? Mea culpa.

    • Spectator

      bm (bowel movement?), thanks for coming here to keep us entertained while we wait to learn where Marty and Monique have relocated. Admittedly, we have no lives. Still, it’s nice to know that, despite the cult’s considerable costs to dog Marty and Monique around, it hasn’t cut its “Online Entertainment for the Unwashed Masses” line item. We deeply appreciate the resource you represent.

    • Mrs Libnish

      BM – you are so obvious…it’s really kind of sad.

      • bm

        “Mrs Libnish
        on December 1, 2012 at 12:08 pm said:
        BM – you are so obvious…it’s really kind of sad.”

        RESPONSE: You actually feel “sad”? Like weepy… mournful… upset… tears, that kind of sad? Over a stranger nitpicking your criticisms of the co$?

        • Enkindled

          No, weepy like a clam that got some sand stuck in it 15 billion years ago. That’s a common source of weepingness. And if there were a lot of hungry seagulls around, you might have jaw pain and vertigo.

          • bm

            “Enkindled
            on December 1, 2012 at 3:55 pm said:
            No, weepy like a clam that got some sand stuck in it 15 billion years ago. That’s a common source of weepingness. And if there were a lot of hungry seagulls around, you might have jaw pain and vertigo.”

            RESPONSE: Just noticed what a gifted creative writer you are Enkindled. Reminds me of James Joyce.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Flush……..

            • Enkindled

              Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the stairhead, bearing a bowl of lather and a clam

            • sugarplumfairy

              Lol..

          • Sidney18511

            Enkindled……now that was piss-in-your-panties funny.

            • deElizabethan

              I wonder if BM bowl movement is really Davey or someone picked and close to him. We know Tony’s blog is the #1 enemy blog for attack and BM’s doing a fine job of attacking the commenters, nothing to do with the subject of the blog. However he is interesting in some way but boring in repetition to comments, just to take up space and can’t communicate like a real sincere person. We will outlast you BM and you are on a failing mission, you’ve come to some of the best, know that. You will give up before us. Thanks for the experience to see what and who you really are. Your comm cycle is the BS out of your ass. Amazing! Blessings for your future.

            • bm

              deElizabethan

              You talk like some little kid playing dungeons and dragons with an utmost of importance, and quiet desperate to marginalize me. I am adding a view that is missing here. You obviously do not need one more voice saying nasty things about people in scientology.

              I asked a question about your definition of involuntary and no one replied with anything. I have “come to some of the best,” but you all “bests” here ignore anything that does not promote your point of view just so. Ok bigmouth, how do you define involuntary, so we can see if it is applies to most of every day life and not just the dramatic exercises associated with scientology spoken about here. I assert that almost every person experiences a certain involuntary experience in their every day life.

              I predict NONE of your super “bestys” here will touch this one. As usual.

              And “bowel movment”? Seriously? This is what defines you as the “best” because you can parrot this incredibly clever insult over and over and over?

              And what commenter have I “attacked”? Again, your definition of “attack” reveals how far from shore your boat has drifted. You view the world as a game of dungeons and dragons, and it is why i call you all Don Quixote , imagining yourselves under attack, which fuels all the drama in this group of yours.

    • Mike

      bm:

      >>What about this? You all keeping mum about one of you advocating the murder of others?Is that how you are? Silent about other’s being harmed or threatened with harm? Doesn’t sound like you at all.

      “I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet…”
      “burythenuts”<<

      Whatever the overall merit of your characterization of others here might be, I really cannot believe that more haven't called you out on the above.

      Observing from afar that it's surprising that someone "has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet" does NOT equal "advocating the murder of others."

      If I say "It's suprising to me that some Tea Party whacko hasn't gone off his nut and assassinated Barack Obama," does that mean I "advocate" the assassination of Barack Obama?

      Repeating your mischaracterization of burythenuts' comment will not succeed in making it less illogical than it was the first time you made it.

      Until you own up to the obvious fallacy of this mischaracterization, it will be impossible to take anything else you write here seriously, however well-intentioned you may think it is.

  • Ze Moo

    The below is or may be cross posted from Marty’s blog

    I suspect Marty and Mosey have a plan, a plan that shows the fickle finger of fate to Miscavige and advances their plans. They have shown an incredible amount of self-discipline and I hope they can continue that tradition. They know enough to have cameras ready and a primed security system.

    I hope they study the harassment and assault laws in their new abode. Nothing gives a hired PI the nervous shakes like a baseball bat aimed for his balls. Just make sure the cameras are on and you are in the right and you can take the criminal bastard. Never start a fight you can’t win.

    If you and everyone else who are under CO$ surveillance moves every 4 months, you can bankrupt corporate CO$ in 2 years or so. Between hiring and firing new PIs and their lodging and other expenses, Davey will dipping into his ‘running away’ money soon. Just be careful about bought off police, keep hidden cameras ready for them. Davey’s sociopathic nature will not allow him to just let Marty walk away, Davey has to make him yell uncle.

    The good news about this is some other city or state is going to get to learn about CO$ Fair Game and more ‘fresh meat’ will not enter the BOrgs doors……

    • Spectator

      Bingo. The right strategy is to shut off the supply of “fresh meat” to the cult. Without them, the cult and kool-aid drinkers inside the castle walls will eventually starve to death. Bazinga!

      • Jgg2012

        Spectator, thanks to the internet, Co$ is already doing poorly getting new red meat. It gets 30 clears a month (360 a year), whereas it was getting 5,000 a year in the late 80s. Since clears (according to Pouw) are 10% of Scientologists, the Cult is getting around 3-4,000 new members a year, which is less then they lose each year, I’m sure. They rely on celebrities and a few rich members (and the Sea Org) to continue funding Miscavige’s legal setlements.

        • Mrs. Mutton Chops

          There are more Elvis Presley imitators, approximately 85,000 worldwide, than members of the Cult of Scientology worldwide. Interesting, isn’t it? Also, the song “Suspicious Minds” reminds me of both Elvis and the Co$.

          • Jgg2012

            There are 50,000 Jedi in Australia.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Starbucks has more employees than co$ has members.. Actually, Starbucks probably has more stores than co$ has scientologists..

          • deElizabethan

            Love that and so true!

  • OttoR

    Marty is playing the martyr, but is loving every minute of it.

    Miscavige and Rathbun both revere the same red headed sadist and liar.

    • Spectator

      OttoR, you really think Miscavige reveres Hubbard?

    • deElizabethan

      Not true!

  • Flunk

    I can see Marty in a nice crib: 4 bedrooms, 5 baths, each with an oiliness table …

    • jeb

      With the prices he charging for independent scientology auditing, he can afford it. I read an article where a misguided indie said it only cost a couple of thousand for the auditing session from Marty, in the church it would of been $12,000. I need to get me an E-meter today.

      • Xenu’s IRS

        Can there be something implemented here so that all posts containing “would of”, “had of”, etc. are rejected automatically?

        • burythenuts

          Woulda, shoulda, coulda….
          whats the real problem here?

          Ah,…. Maybe its the oiliness table!!!!

          Who cares what Marty gets paid or not.
          He has a business to run….
          Its all about “what the market will bear”

          • jeb

            I thought it was a religion, not a business.

            • burythenuts

              lulz…come on!

          • bm

            “burythenuts
            Who cares what Marty gets paid or not.
            He has a business to run….
            Its all about “what the market will bear”

            RESPONSE: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            That too good. You and this ridiculous group of yours gets to decide who can make $ and who cannot. Your like minded guru is ok, he can do no wrong, but that guru over there, well that guy should be killed for making $ and whatever else I don’t like when I woke up this morning.

            • burythenuts

              :)

              MUAH!

          • Jgg2012

            Yes, LRH invented those words. You’re violating his copyright.

          • deElizabethan

            Exactly!

            • deElizabethan

              The “exactly” was in response to who cares what money Marty makes. He’s not killing people or draining their wallets. Plus he is effective at having a safe house for people leaving the organization who want that stuff. Why would you knock someone helping to have the org FAIL?

  • Jgg2012

    Why doesn’t Marty just sue Davey? Davey will settle instead of showing up for a deposition. Part of the settlement can be a promise not to stalk or follow him again.

    • deElizabethan

      Takes the big bucks $$$$ to hire an attorney. Who has that?

  • Enkindled

    Every time I come to this page I get 15 seconds of a gold pawn shop add.

  • Boson Stark

    How long will the cult spies remain in Marty’s neighborhood after he leaves? LOL

    • grundoon

      It’s nice there, and they have a long lease. Maybe they’ll leave the biz, settle down and go fishing.

  • victoria

    I know this is off topic, but I am seriously starting to feel like these amazing announcements about mars over the years are a lot like the next big rundown in $cn. It only costs millions but just wait till you find out what it is!
    We can’t tell you before Dec. 3rd cause your bank would go all solid, and we need your assets liquids.
    Maybe I am just in a bad mood. Bah humbug.

    • Jgg2012

      You are not really that far off. Scientists need reasons to get funding (and they can’t say “I gave $1million to your campaign” to a Senator) so they do that. Amway-style network marketing companies do the same thing. “You’ll make tons of money” (one month later) “oh, you didn’t, hmm, well. buy $5,000 worth of training and then you will make $ for sure” (and then another 5 grand, and so on.)

      Also slightly off topic–
      John Travolta claims he helped cure an accident victim in China with a touch assist–the report does not name the victim or provide any details, however…

      • Mrs. Mutton Chops

        Did this “accident” take place in a bath house?

        • Gayle

          Seriously, if I don’t get a like button soon I’m gonna start pouting!

          • Mrs Libnish

            I immediately went for the “like” button…there was none.

        • Jgg2012

          Don’t get bogged down in the MEST universe. The tech works
          100%, especially if Davey has taped embarrassing confessions about bathhouses.

      • Flunk

        Jgg2012, when a magician saws a woman in half, it’s just a trick. Just thought you’d want to know.

        • Jgg2012

          It is? I thought she exteriorized, left her meat body for a few minutes, then the body was reattached by a touch assist.

    • Flunk

      “these amazing announcements about mars over the years are a lot like the next big rundown in $cn”

      The cell phones and computers we have today are a direct result of going to the moon in the 60’s.
      The transistor was invented in ’47. The next big step would be “the chip’. But just one chip, with only a few components inside, would have cost millions (in 1950’s $) to make.
      Then John Kennedy said we were going to the moon, and he opened the floodgates of government money. In the process, we discovered ways of miniaturizing electronics that, over the decades, changed the way we live and the world we live in.
      The internet was invented in 1990, and in that decade we had our last economic boom. Who knows what knowledge a trip to Mars might yield?

      • Ze Moo

        The internet was invented in the 1960’s, I played with an early version of email at Penn State in 1968. And Al Gore did not invent it either. A trip to Mars would be very dangerous, the radiation problem is very difficult to solve. It however, be cool as hell…..

  • Sid

    I don’t think for a second that Miscavige has chased Rathbun out of town. Whatever you think of Marty, he is one tough cookie, and his wife is no pushover either.

    It’s clear that judging from recent events that Marty is increasingly angry at the way he, and especially his wife, have been stalked and harassed for several years now.

    Stuck in one place he is a clear target, and Miscavige through trial and mostly error has worked out the best ways to harass him.

    Moving on makes perfect sense. I’m sure he has given it plenty of strategic thought. Maybe somewhere less easy to observe, maybe somewhere with better legal protection against stalking, maybe somewhere closer to more Scientologists. Either way, Marty is now the one making the moves for a change, so Miscavige is I’m sure frantically trying to work out where he’s gone and what it may mean to him. As has been pointed out, simply by moving and claiming this is due to harassment gives Marty a future weapon in his legal arsenal, and future harassment at a new location shows a continued pattern.

    I’m sure whatever the reason, it’s bad news for Miscavige.

    • deElizabethan

      I Agree with that!

  • observer

    I can’t blame Marty for wanting to keep their destination quiet for now. Better to keep DM off-balance as long as possible.

    • Mila Minderbinder

      As if it’s possible to keep his location a secret. Marty is followed around anywhere he goes by a car of PIs, that live across the street from him. He had to go and see the new property right? I bet he was followed already then. And also, he lets a film crew film him pack his moving truck…..does he really think he won’t be followed to his new location by either the TV crew or the PIs? He is just being overly dramatic, as usual.

  • Burythenuts

    DM is probably charting a feverish game of where’s Waldo back at Int right now!

    • Jgg2012

      BTN, here is what I think he is doing. He will release one story after another until Davey can’t take it anymore, quits and lets Marty take over. In the meantime, he will set up shop across the street from the Ft. Harrison Hotel.

      • deElizabethan

        I do not believe he will take over and if he does set up shop across the street it will be for his and the movements betterment as he will be available for those escaping the cult which will help bring the cult to Fail faster.
        I hope he does move to Clearwater or near by. I don’t care how much money he makes if it takes away from the cult which he can never really duplicate.

  • jack

    This is clearly not a religion.

    I think it’s in Marty’s interest not to have his new location broadcast and speculated about. And why is this not a police matter? By not acting the government are accomplices.

  • AnotherSP

    Yup. The cult doing their cult thing. Critics won’t be silenced and Miscavige will soon be gone. Now, to work on those celebrity shills who still say the cult saved their life. hahahaha

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      The way to do that is to boycott their films. Mel Gibson’s career tanked because of his anti-semetic statements. Tom Cruise has done 20x worse by shilling for a destructive cult, benefiting from Sea Org slave labor, and abusing his staff. It’s amazing how the public has not back-lashed against this piece of shit is beyond me.

  • OttoR

    None of this is sudden. Marty is using every drop of drama to his advantage. Miscavige is a dirt bag, but Marty isn’t far behind. Both are manipulators.

  • Spectator

    Marty just announced “Nueva Casablanca” — 25 miles from San Antonio International Airport. Yup. They’ve moved to be close to Ray Jeffrey, lawyer to the Independents. At http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/nueva-casablanca/

    • deElizabethan

      Bravo!

      • Boson Stark

        Yup, congratulations to all you lucky winners, who guessed that Marty would:

        A. Stay in Texas
        B. Settle in the San Antonio area (remember the Alamo?)

        I sure can’t see the Squirrel Busters operating very well there — their thetans or otherwise. However, Miscavige could buy land in the area and build, or go in with helicopters.

        This place does not appear to be accessible by raft. I bet Marty will miss the water, but maybe there’s a lake nearby.

        Next move — Guyana, if the cult doesn’t beat him to it.

  • dylan

    of course you know Bm that I really do not care if you use the cult speak and were never in. I think that I am a critic of critic’s critic’s. is that even possible? There are not many of you out there. So thank god I found you. Do you know how hard it is going around the net being a critic of critics critics. To be honest there are not many critic’s of critic’s. So you can imagine what it must be like for me?

    Well thank god you came along. I’m new at this so my little retorts up there were to just get a feel for all of this. I will try and catch up to your prowess and utter uber stature of critical criticalness. (does any of this even make sence)

    P.s. any notes you have would be great but I understand if you do not want to share.