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HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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TEXAS JUDGE ORDERS DEPOSITION OF SCIENTOLOGY LEADER DAVID MISCAVIGE

Ray Jeffrey

Ray Jeffrey

We talked to Ray Jeffrey, attorney for Monique Rathbun, who confirmed that Judge Dib Waldrip has granted Monique’s motion for a continuance in her harassment lawsuit against the Church of Scientology so she can have the time to depose its leader, David Miscavige.

And although Scientology attorneys asked that it be a written deposition, Jeffrey tells us the judge did not agree to that.

“He has ordered the deposition of Miscavige with no restrictions. It will be a regular deposition like any other,” Jeffrey said.

At the end of today’s session, Scientology attorneys suddenly asked Judge Waldrip for an open-ended stay of proceedings so they could have the time to petition the state appeals court regarding the deposition order. Waldrip instead gave them just one week — until 5 pm on December 20 — to obtain a stay from the Austin appeals court.

“For us, the stay means we’re not supposed to set up the deposition for one week,” Jeffrey said. But it should take considerably longer than that to schedule Miscavige’s testimony.

In fact, Scientology’s attorneys submitted Miscavige’s upcoming schedule through March 31, which apparently showed the “ecclesiastical leader” has a dizzying array of events and tasks to accomplish.

“Judge Waldrip seemed unimpressed with it,” Jeffrey said. “There’s no time that they’re not going to claim that he’s super busy.”

Today’s session was a continuation of a hearing that had begun on Wednesday. At the end of that day, Judge Waldrip was handed huge binders of material — Scientology’s objections to Monique’s supporting documents — but he apparently came into court this morning very prepared.

“It happened very fast. Within 15 minutes, he said he had read about half of the declarations, had read one of the depositions, and said that plaintiffs had a colorable basis in fact for the need to take the deposition of David Miscavige,” Jeffrey said.

Scientology then tried to talk Judge Waldrip out of his decision, Jeffrey said.

The Scientology attorneys began complaining that the decision was a violation of Miscavige’s religious freedom. Jeffrey then pointed out that during the recent scandals with the Catholic Church, bishops and archbishops had given depositions without it violating their religious freedom.

“But not the Pope!” exclaimed Ricardo Cedillo, attorney for Scientology.

“We all laughed at that, and so did the judge,” Jeffrey said.

“The big mistake they made was leveling so many objections, and they actually gave the judge a format, a box for checking every objection sustained or overruled on the documents,” Jeffrey said. That burden forced Waldrip to place very close attention to the many declarations that Monique had submitted. Those declarations, he adds, were intended to be very persuasive.

Also, Jeffrey surprised Scientology’s attorneys by bringing with him a proposed order for deposing not only Miscavige, but also the church leader’s wife, Shelly Miscavige, his personal “communicator” Laurisse, and also Linda Hamel, who runs Scientology’s spy wing, the Office of Special Affairs.

Shelly Miscavige has not been seen in public since late 2005 except for a brief appearance at the funeral of her father in the summer of 2007. It’s believed that she’s being kept out of sight at a small Scientology compound in the mountains above Los Angeles.

“They freaked out over that,” Jeffrey said.

He did not end up submitting that order for Waldrip’s approval, but Jeffrey says he still can do that in the future.

“The main thing is we get the time to do discovery. David Miscvaige is still in this lawsuit, and has to give his deposition.”

Miscavige had argued that he had nothing to do with the harassment campaign that Monique alleges made her life miserable over the past four years. And although one church entity, the Church of Scientology International, has admitted to running that campaign, Miscavige claims that he has nothing to do with CSI and instead only runs a different church entity, the Religious Technology Center (RTC), and should be let out of the lawsuit. Monique argues that he runs all aspects of Scientology, and she should have the ability to depose Miscavige before Judge Waldrip can make a decision about Miscavige’s request to be let out of the suit.

Today, Waldrip agreed.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on December 13, 2013 at 14:50

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  • Missionary Kid

    OT. Subject: Kirstie, aka Krusty Alley.

    A neighbor of mine is a professional magician. He’s been a member of the Magic Castle for years. He is a smoker, but he tries to limit the amount of cigarettes he smokes, and he does it by only taking a few cigarettes with him.

    Here’s his story about Krusty:

    The Magic Castle was having an awards show, and he was somewhat bored, so he was hanging out at the back of the show, just outside the doors, smoking his last cigarette. Krusty was also outside, came up to him, and said, “Can I have a cigarette?”

    My friend, the magician, said, “Sorry, but I don’t have any more.”

    Krusty,”What do you mean, you don’t have any more? Do you know who I am? I’m Kirstie Alley! Gimmie a cigarette!

    Magician, “If you really are Kirstie Alley, you’d have enough money to buy your own cigarettes.”

    Krusty, storming off, in a loud voice, “Nobody talks to me like that! Nobody!”

    Magician’s friend, who overheard everything, “Well, I guess you do.”

    I keep my neighbor abreast of the events about $cientology, and I just visited him, with news about the deposition of DM. He lived in Hollywood for years, worked for a TV star for years, and has met a lot of Celebs. He couldn’t say enough nice things about Leah Remini, who he met when she was a cute young thing.

    He also used to get hassled all the time to take a personality test. He finally told the people who asked him over and over, as if he was someone new every time he passed by, to take a personality test. He finally told them, “I have no personality.”

    • Jean

      In her mind, she keeps repeating “I’m Kirstie Alley.” Kind of a joke. And that is all she will ever be.

      • Missionary Kid

        Apparently, the magician has had several contacts with her. None made her look good. I asked his permission to tell the story. He was more than happy to let me.

        • Jean

          Funny how other people become a liability when you behave like an asshole…

          • Missionary Kid

            With her, apparently, it’s intrinsic.

    • SandiCorrena

      She thinks she’s in the Big Being club?!?

      • Espiando

        She is, but not in the way she thinks she is.

      • Missionary Kid

        She’s actually in the inverse.

    • jeff

      Kirstie gave all her cash to the IAS and her lemurs.

      • Missionary Kid

        I think she has lemurs because it enables her to keep some things captive that are more intelligent than she is.

    • Baby

      Oh Yeah Krusty.. WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE..TRUST ME ON THAT ONE DOLL FACE..

      You are the SCN Broad whose New Show is GOINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN Dowwwwwwwwwn..

      • Missionary Kid

        When I talked to my neighbor, he’s actually TIVO’d three of them. He tried force himself to watch them so he could properly evaluate them, but he was unsuccessful. We agreed that the talent around her was so much better, and the writing sucked. He said it was filmed in front of a live audience at CBS, right next to Hot in Cleveland, but they added a horrible laugh track.

        Buhbye. Supposedly, she’s gonna do another Look Who’s Talking. Did all of the previous ones make money?

        • Rita Gregory

          Mom was channel surfing the other day and announced Kirstie was ugly. She said she didn’t used to think so but hearing what a piece of work she is has made her ugly. Gotta love my mom. :)

          • Missionary Kid

            Tell her I love her, too.

            • Rita Gregory

              I’ll do that. :)

        • MaxSpaceman

          Yes. Winning formula and presentation for mainstream global movie-going public.

          But now, with Krusty and John being so (she) huge-in-girth and uber obnoxious, and (he) so older and passe and not hip, they’ll have to play Grandparents to make Look Who’s Talking franchise ongoing.

          It would probably be an epic disaster. But- each would bank $5 million – $ X million so they wouldn’t care all that much if it bombed.

          • Baby

            Yep.. MORE $ to go to their ” Chirch” ha… see comment to Miss. Kid below Max

          • Missionary Kid

            I pity the investors and the people who watch it.

            • MaxSpaceman

              The financial backers in projects like that are of the 1/10th of 1 percenters.

              There’s so much money beyond the usual (from 1st 3/4 of 20th Century standards, when fortunes like $200 million meant ‘something’; when personal wealth of ‘$65 million meant something; since the Dot Com bubble, measures of “wealth” have leaped way upward), that the backers will not flinch at the $ loss.

              They will be onboard for the process itself – “making a Hollywood, Studio level film”, that’s the lure. It’s intoxicating (for them and many many folk) and compelling.

              I’d save the pity for the people who watch it. You right on there as in bleccccccccchhh!

              How putrid that thing is gonna be. Watching the humungous Krustie-the-Whale Alley on a motion picture screen again is enough to cause us nightmares, out here on the fringe of Space Station 33, ever watchful (like Paul Revere) for the incoming return from Target 2, of El Ron El Ray hisself.

            • Missionary Kid

              Your post brought to mind a beached whale, trying to maneuver on the sand.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Lulz – Krustie epitomizes ‘beached whale’ ! lulz

        • Baby

          Hell to the yes…for your neighbor..

          UHM they did.. But the big difference? Before they started Yacking about SCN… That is their Waterloo..

          • Missionary Kid

            John’s said some shit, but not against someone else. That’s what’s gonna save him. Kirstie’s image is just plain ugly. Leah smoked her with her “I’d rather kill her with kindness” comment. Kirstie is clueless and self-absorbed.

            She’s never achieved the fame of the fictional character in Sunset Boulevard, but she’s got the fantasies that she had, and she’s angry when not everyone kow-tows to her.

            I don’t think she has much talent, but her mouth and her arrogance is her “ruin.”

      • stillgrace2

        I think the runner-up for a perfect day would be when they announce the Emmy nominations and Leah is nominated and Kirstie is not.

        • Baby

          OMG YES!!!!!

  • Tony DePhillips

    Friday the 13th!! The legend of cob’s justice day begins. Freddie Kruger will be visiting the cob in his sleep tonight…heh,heh,heh.

    • jeff

      Uh, that would be Jason. Mr. Krueger was from Nightmare on Elm St.

      • Espiando

        Tony is an Ex. He was probably well-insulated from the entheta of 80s and 90s horror flicks.

      • Baby

        Well I still gave him an UPvote.. plus his name is Tony…He is Representin

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        They made it, so there’s always Freddy Vs. Jason.

        I’d pay to see that, the 2 of them on COB :-D

      • Tony DePhillips

        http://youtu.be/e3PDoTLothc
        Not so sure Freddie can be limited like that…

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Yay Tony the Tiger’s here too!

  • DamOTclese2

    Here is where I was today, trying to find cell telephone coverage to check in to The Bunker from time to time. When Miscavige is being deposed, maybe he can print this out and bring it with him, try to seek a little peace and tranquility while he attempts to suppress those feelings of being buggered in public.

    • Zana

      Gorgeous. !!

      • DamOTclese2

        Yeah, this is the West Fork of the San Gabriel River. 4 years ago I literally set my sleeping bag down in the dark less than 30 feet in front of a mountain lion. It was wet and dark, very cold in there in October and I set my bike on its stand and laid right down in front of it.

        It tried to leave by when I hear something in the leaves I took off my hat and slapped it against the ground so it stopped and hunkered down. There it was for 2.5 hours while I just laid there trying to sleep. When it started to rain hard I moved my leather hat on to my face and the mountain lion screamed then started barking, literally barking. It leaped behind me and I started slapping my hat against the ground again, stood up and wrapped the sleeping bag around my right arm while I searched in the dark for my radio and compass and stuff.

        I got my bicycle back on its wheels and there is stood 20 feet from me barking. In the dark. We’re trained not to look like food so all I did was walk quickly away while not looking back and it didn’t follow, I heard it barking for half a mile and it faded away as I went around a curve.

        It was one of the dumbest stunts I ever did. I also had a bear come in to my tent up in the San Gabriel Designated Wilderness because I had an open can of mixed nuts in my backpack.

        • Espiando

          Just as long as the bear didn’t go after the open can of mixed nuts in your long underwear.

          • DamOTclese2

            -heh- They go for the back of the neck, usually. :) There were two adults when the bears became a problem and about 15 children. The kids had boiled hot dogs for dinner and every bear within 5 miles came to join them.

            This was after the 2002 Curve Fire so their habitats had been destroyed. We were infested with bears like Body Thetans infest Kirstie Alley.

            The San Gabriel Tribune wrote a new story about the bears surrounding the kids and forcing them to pack up everything and flee in the night. :)

            • SopranoAscends

              As long as we’ve taken a break for wild animal stories…Last week, San Francisco city officials issued a report that the 20 or so cayotes in town had exceeded 100. Mostly Golden Gate Park and the Presidio.

        • Captain Howdy

          I read about a guy who was bicycling in Cali up in the hills and a cougar ambushed him and drug him half a mile through the brush and twenty feet up a tree where the cougar ripped his heart out and ate it.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            And he told this story? while holding his heart in his hand? bwaahaaahaaa

            • Captain Howdy

              It’s possible.

              P.S- I’m using my shaman Chickasaw powers to make a puma visit your backyard.

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            Was she convicted?

            • Rita Gregory

              Actual lol.

          • DamOTclese2

            Yeah, there are a number of places, bicycle and hiking trails around the Jet Propulsion Lab, Altadena, the “Foothills” have trails where mountain lions have leaped off of hillsides and on to bicycle riders, knocking them off their bikes and usually — 99.999% of the time — the mountain lion gets confused after seeing it’s a human and they run away, or they walk slowly away looking back, confused.

            I have photographs of local signs warning bicycle riders to be awarre of mountain lions. They look at bike riders as fleeing food and leap. :)

            • Science Doc

              They are pretty common in the arroyo seco and el prieto. Plus the rattlesnakes. Lots of rattlers back there.

            • DamOTclese2

              Oh yeah. I saw that there was some trail work done on El Prieto as well. :) That trail is actually looking very good.

            • Science Doc

              Had a four footer drop down out of the brush onto my foot two years ago there. Big jump clear the whole time thinking about I didn’t deserve this.

            • pronoia

              One spring, I saw a 3-4 footer drop out of some rafters in a house hill with an undeveloped “basement.” Will never forget the sound of that thud.

            • Science Doc

              Up close and personal to a rattler always gets my attention. Do not like them. Too many encounters.

          • Midwest Mom

            I just realized that you were the guy on staff at my camp when I was eleven years old who told campfire stories. “Bloooooody fiiiiiingers…………..Bloooooody fiiiiiingers…..!”.

            • Captain Howdy

              No, it’s true. A few people have been killed by Mountain Lions in the U.S in the last 20 years. Usually they go after children or women. This guy was of smaller stature and him riding his bike triggered the cougars chase response.

        • Science Doc

          One night in the Angeles National Forest I had a large one right outside the tent with the family and two dogs inside. Had to go outside with it acting up and shoo it away. It nailed a fox in the middle of the camp site the next night.

          • DamOTclese2

            Yikes! It was probably interested in the dogs. :) They don’t like human meat.

            • pronoia

              Little dogs presumably. That said, even if you know they don’t like tough stinky human meat, it is hard to remember that when you are facing one down.

        • Zana

          OMG! What an adventure! Wow. You have some stories to tell your grandkids!! :-) This is a gorgeous photo. Breathtaking. Thank you for sharing.

          • DamOTclese2

            I have also had human problems which were far worse. :) I was hiking up the mountain along the highway and in a turn-out someone was shooting a rifle. In the dark across the highway down in to the canyons below. I have had an explosive device thrown out a car window at me which detonated way behind me.

            The worse incident was me sleeping up a side canyon one Summer, I had all my clothes off and was laying on my sleeping bag on a tarp. The highway was closed to vehicle traffic because it was after a big fire but a guy came walking up the road shooting a 9mm hand gun.

            Bullets were impacting the hillside above me and as he walked up the road they came lower and lower until one impacted the tarp I was laying on. I grabbed my shoes and ran up the canyon — in the dark — and got behind oak tree segments that someone had bucked up during the fire and I waited behind them for the shooting to stop.

            After an hour of no more shooting I returned to my bedding, grabbed my pants, shirt, sleeping bag and abandoned my backpack and everything else and I ran up the road another couple of miles, got down in among the trees and spent the rest of the night, returning for my pack and bicycle and the rest when it was daylight.

            There have been 4 homicides — murders — within a mile of where I have been camping over the years that I’m aware of. Numerous suicides. I hike, bike, camp, climb, backpack all the time now that I’m retired, I don’t sleep in doors any more.

        • aquaclara

          A gorgeous view….but I hafta say, I don’t run into these problems camping at the Marriott. ;)

        • pronoia

          Holy Shit! I encountered a Mountain Lion once in the San Gabriel Mts north or LA. I just stood still and tried to figure what rock I would grab if it pounced. About 10 minutes later it sauntered off (must not have been hungry. Or lazy as I noticed plenty of bunnies in the local ecosystem) and I hightailed it back down the trail and outa there! Have always been a solo hiker, but that was one time when I wished I was not alone!

          • DamOTclese2

            It was wondering what you were, I think. Humans don’t smell like food to mountain lions unless the people have dogs, cats, or children with them or perhaps some other factor that makes them feel threatened or makes them believe they are food. We’re too large, usually, but our meat smells tainted, our diets are strange. :)

            I don’t know if there are any YouTube videos showing mountain lions barking, but it literally was yark! yark! yark! yark! about one yark every 2 seconds and that went on and on as I tried to find my radio, compass, camera. It was being polite by barking and warning me off.

            From its perspective a rather large animal had walked right up to it and had the audacity to lay down in front of it. When it tried to leave, the strange animal was aggressive and pounded the ground, then laid right back down — which is not the act of a prey animal.

            It was so far in West Fork that I had to shuffle my feet to find the water company road otherwise I would have walked in to Bear Creek along the road. It is so dark and cold in there that even during the Summer there is often ice on the road — closed to all vehicles except water company cars and by special permit. So I had to leave quickly and walk along the dirt along the road while not leaving so quickly as to appear to be fleeing.

            I checked YouTube to see if I could find an audio recording and could not find one.

        • Robert Eckert

          Out in Yosemite with my buddy Jimbo, he was the one who would clamber out onto wet rocks sticking into the waterfalls to get a better view of the dropoff, while I was the one too chicken even to look off the edge from a perfectly safe vantage point without vertigo– then while we were eating lunch on a big flat rock overlooking a stretch of rapids, we saw three mountain lions on the other side, a momma and two “teenagers”, and I thought it was really cool, and I wasn’t concerned in the least since there was churning water and difficult rocks between us and them, but Jimbo got really scared. When he stood up (he’s over six feet), the lions got spooked and ran off. I told him he was not the kind of meal they were looking for, a fat beaver was much more their liking. I thought it was funny how we had different triggers for panic fear.

          • DamOTclese2

            Wow, you and Jimbo were lucky to spot them. It’s why I always carry a camera now. :) Also you probably saw the video on YouTube of people who climbed past the barricades out on to the rocks and the cliff face calved off and washed several of them to their deaths. There are worse dangers in Yosemite than mountain lions. :)

            I keep my camera ready now that I have a car — I have been on bicycle and foot for ten years and finally replaced that old Toyota, if you ever saw it, the one plastered with (ahem) NRA stickers (from when I was a member) that Scientology made much of when we were protesting out at Big Blue, that old Toyota did over 300,000 miles before the odometer stopped working and eventually a cop took my ride off the road, said he couldn’t let me back out there with that rolling wreck. :)

            I have video and photographs of several helicopter rescues I’ve been in, motorcycle crash deaths, I have photographs of bob cats standing in the road as I bicycle down the mountain; they tend to crouch down low to the ground and watch distrustfully as I pass.

            Shame you couldn’t get photos.

            • Robert Eckert

              That trip was in my “Toyota of Doom” as Jimbo calls it, which is now at 287 thousand and I want to keep it past 300. It’s still running pretty good.

            • DamOTclese2

              Oh hell yeah. My Toyota Celica was called “Toyotastein” because it was many different car parts. The exhaust system was High C drink cans hammered flat, rolled up, and put together with hose clamps, and that was hung with coat hangers. The air pump for the emissions system was literally just hanging off of the belt that drove it, gravity kept it in place. The back hatch window shattered when I closed the hatch one day, and cops kept pulling me over every 3 months or so, taking everything out looking for contraband.

              Finally a cop pulled me over and looked it over and said, “Buddy I godda take you off the road, you can’t be driving this!” :)

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      pretty!

    • pronoia

      Stunning!

  • Phil de Fontenay

    Now c’mon you guys! You should have more respect for the Poope of Scientology! Sorry that should be Poop! Bwahahahahahahahahahaha…

    The more they call this loser a Pope the more utterly ridiculous they look to… well, EVERYONE.

    If I was still in and heard them call that idiot a Pope I would have keeled over laughing. I can guarantee that most people who are in have lost whatever little respect they still had for the goon.

    A Mass Exodus is nigh!

  • bob

    baby. )

    • Espiando

      That’s….well, apropos of nothing.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Thank you for pointing that out. I completely agree.

    • Baby

      Don’t Baby Me! You started off Good.. I welcomed you.. and You deleted it.. ( It’s still in your profile dummy) and then posted ” Distractions and Gobblygoop” Forget it Mr. and Forget My Name!

      • Rita Gregory

        I welcomed him too! :(

  • Mooser

    Scientology goes a long way by avoiding one word. They never, ever, use the word “ritual”.

    • Espiando

      And they ripped that off from Time Team.

      • Mooser

        It was just a tangent which occurred to me. I’m all for rituals, myself, don’t get me wrong.

  • bob

    ESPIANDO…AHH well…about as appropriate as espiando chicas caliente locale.

    • Mooser

      You seem to be struggling towards expression.

    • pronoia

      racist bob is racist.

  • bob

    Jimmy )

    • Mooser

      Hmm, speaking of rituals, anybody know the Last Rites?

      • DamOTclese2

        I do! I have my ordination papers, lapsed. :)

  • bob

    Oh Moosie…stop you are so flattering

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      WTF?

      • Mooser

        Taciturn sort. Man of few words, but all deeply considered.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          If you say so bro!

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        Can we keep him?! Please?!!

        • Ruby

          hahaha!

        • Great White Clam

          Do you think hell like to eat a carrot?

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            I dunno. I think he might be a Furby.

            • Great White Clam

              Theres some nice furry dildoe slippers around here somewhere…….

      • Ruby

        questionable profile

      • stillgrace2

        Not the Bob I thought it was.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Nope..the alter ego!j

          Do you remember the TWO bob fiasco?

          Call me tomorrow and I will explain. Now…bedtime!

          • Ruby

            nighty night

        • Captain Howdy

          It’s Evil Bob.

    • Baby

      I just welcomed you .. WTH is this? Good God Man.. Are you a Man or Mouse..

      Come on Squeak Up..

    • Mooser

      Ok, whatever, I’ll wait until I hear the Cheyne-Stokes breathing.

    • Mooser

      Well, don’t just stand there coughing like a sheep, unlimber up the old vouschafer and let fly!

    • KJP in Portland

      YOU be nice…niiice!

  • HelenNPN

    I’m glad this is happening right in the heart of Texas, where I’m from. Texan ol’ boy lawyers and judges don’t suffer any “reeeligus freedums” for wacky religious nut cults. Of course this can quickly become quite dark, hence Waco, etc.. But if there is one place where Scientology is not going to come in throwing its weight around, it is Bubbaland.

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      Probably why Tiny Fists is trying to get let out of the lawsuit ;-)

    • aquaclara

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • bob

    Last wrongs, last rights
    Last makeups, last fights.
    Last calls for just one more
    Last chance to slam the door.
    Last supper, last piece of cake
    Last reoccuring nightmare when you’re wide awake.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Fuck off. Fuck On!
      whatever.

      • KJP in Portland

        ;p

    • Great White Clam

      Theres some splainin ta do hear bob

    • nottrue

      Oh wow its Bob Dylan

      • Rita Gregory

        No wonder we can’t understand him.

    • Espiando

      Last.

      Nix Last.

    • Mooser

      Bob, it’s “recurring” nightmares, not “reoccuring” But, it’s a small matter, soldier on!

    • HelenNPN

      …that would be “caek”.

    • Great White Clam
    • KJP in Portland

      You go, Bob! That was highly, er, profound!

    • MaxSpaceman

      “What about Bob?”
      PS: where’s ‘NorthxNorthwest’ avi?

      • Captain Howdy

        It’s not our “Bob”. It’s evil Bob i.e troll.

        • MaxSpaceman

          Well fuuuuuuck, man!
          How’d he grab Bob’s handle? I don’t get how Disqus assigns and tracks handles at all. I wish someone could point me to how to find out the specifics of it.

          • Missionary Kid

            One is bob (evil) the other is Bob (leaving $cientology)

            • MaxSpaceman

              Yes, i know our Bob – I love Bob, with the North x Northwest Avi.

  • media_lush

    Anybody here have an account with Nielsen? love to get the viewing figures for Kirstie.

  • ProudSP

    Yes, Lisa M., there is a Santa Claus. And he is making a lot of Christmas wishes come true with this deposition of Mr. Miscavige. You are not forgotten, and justice will be served.

  • Ruby

    So, I know many of us have been celebrating this day with champagne, beer, wine…it is possible that bob is…one of us, and forgot his login? :))

    • Great White Clam

      Anything possible with enough champaigne, bear, and {burp}……. whine

  • pamphlet#1

    The wheels of justice seem to turning at last with regards to Mr Miscavige. I wonder if he’ll start having nightmares about the inexorable approach of a steam roller :)

    • Missionary Kid

      {{Auditing can help with that.}}

      • pamphlet#1

        When was the last time Miscavige actually partook of any Scientology services?

        • Missionary Kid

          Who knows? I doubt if he would, because he’s so friggin paranoid, he wouldn’t want any files kept on him.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            There are not enough continents of earth, with enough forests having enough trees to make enough paper to write up all the knowledge reports on all the crimes of David Miscavige.

            • Great White Clam

              Not to mention make enough toillet paper for all the millions upon millions of clams to keep cleam bums.

              Wot? Would like to have cleam bums?

              $ceintology can help with that……. NOT!

            • Espiando

              Trufax: before the invention of toilet paper, clam shells were used by people living in coastal areas to clean their bums.

            • Great White Clam

              lololololololo

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              And now that joke with the shells from that Demolition Man movie makes more sense to me. Never knew that. Learn something every day :-D

            • pronoia

              And what is wrong with using water in coastal areas? Srsly.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Good thing we can do it all electronically now, eh Michael ;-)

              I put a KR on him and Laurisse for their out 2D awhile back :-D

            • aquaclara

              Nope, not enough continents or forests, but DOT knows where all the fun camping spots are (beware of the Mountain Lions, Davey…).

            • Missionary Kid

              Amen.

        • Chee Chalker

          There are Scientology services??

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          When he was”cured” of his asthma, probably.

          • pronoia

            When he assaulted his auditor when he was a teenaged sociopath in St Hill!

            • Rita Gregory

              He was the auditor, he assaulted his PC.

        • Captain Howdy

          Rathbun and Rinder said it was back in the 90′s and he had reached OT3 and quit after that. Maybe he’s not as stupid as he seems.

        • Ardent

          My guess is he doesn’t. I think he is a thorough charlatan, who knows damned well he’s selling snake oil.

      • Zana

        Very funny!

        • Missionary Kid

          Ironic, too.

  • Deeana

    Wouldn’t it have been nice if Quentin Hubbard and Jamie DeWolfe had been able to get to know each other?

  • Great White Clam
    • Ardent

      GWC, you just gave me a HUGE smile. “Moronic”! Wonderfully concise. Thanks.

  • PoisonIvyHerself

    Sweet Dreams, Dear Bunkerites…there’s not enough scotch in Scotland for Captain Miscavige tonight!

  • aegerprimo

    OT: Does anyone know how nominate Tony O for a Pulitzer and deadline was this month? I remember this mentioned at the Bunker.

    • aquaclara

      Hearsaying now…..

    • aurora50
    • aquaclara

      Journalism deadline is 1.25.14
      Pulitzer.org
      We could do this.

      • Zana

        Yes!! Let’s ABSOLUTELY nominate him for a Pulitzer Prize. !!! How about a Nobel Prize as well. ! And a Peabody Award. Whatever awards there are out there… let’s nominate him. !!! What he is doing is truly heroic and amazing. He took on the whole Co$. Has been campaigning against their dirty tricks for years. And has now spearheaded this final takedown. He deserves awards for what he is doing. How do we find out about them? What needs to be done?

      • noseinabk

        The rules are a little tricky for a blog. We can do this but need someone to take the lead.

        • Science Doc

          I like the bunker a lot. I know some nobelists, Pulitzer winners, etc. I’ll guess that it will be a few years before someone with the Bunkers profile snatches this away from one of my acquaintances at the LA Times etc. We are a specialized group. The Pulitzer is for general or broader impact.

  • Jean

    So Tony unleashed his investigative post at 2:30PM, and there are already 1300 posts! That’s crazy!

    • pronoia

      More than half the number of scions who claim the cult as their religion inthe UK!

  • tetloj

    For those who aren’t regular ESMB readers, Lone Star was in the courtroom with Derek and has written some interesting reflections at this link (thread covers Wednesday and Friday)

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?34264-On-the-banks-of-the-Mighty-Comal-River

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Suggested night time reading! Thanks tetloj. I just dropped in for a nightcap bedtime story. There’s quite a few details in that thread like:

      “Heh heh heh…..I just found where I wrote down the first words out of
      Judge Waldrip’s mouth as he sat down behind volumes of binders and
      paperwork, some of which he carried in……

      Looking at the cult side of the room….

      “I’m going to have to get the State to provide me a paralegal, or a half dozen paralegals just to keep up with you guys!” ”

      http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?34264-Historic-Texas-December-2013-Hearings/page20

      Thanks for all the live reports. Me, I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in.

      • KJP in Portland

        (((hugs!)))

      • tetloj

        I like how the lawyer’s actions belie their strategy that Miscavige is not involved with day to day issues (clearly he is managing their actions in the courtroom) and how CST’s representative goes apopletic on DM’s behalf, when he’s not his client. Blows the whole notion of separate corporate entities out of the water.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Absolutely! I think it would be appropriate for the Judge to directly ask the CSI attorney why he referred to David Miscavige in open court as “his client”. (happened in the wrangle over DM’s itinerary)

          Because if he is really CSI’s attorney, and CSI is really discrete from DM, then DM is not his client.

          And if DM is his client, then the sham of CSI being independent from RTC is exposed. If he is being directed and ordered by DM while masquerading as CSI’s attorney, is not that a fraud upon the court?

      • DodoTheLaser

        Good to see you here again, THDNE!

    • noseinabk

      If recording devices are banned, how do scion lawyers get away with open laptops in court?

      • tetloj

        The ban doesn’t extend to the legal teams. Yingling was on her laptop the whole time.

        • Ruby

          oh geez…direct line to Davey

          • pronoia

            Well to be fair…….he IS a defendant!

            • Ruby

              oh yes. Thank you for the happy reminder that he will soon be there to watch the proceedings in person.

            • pronoia

              Haha!

          • DamOTclese2

            Hey, can’t that count as “doing business in Texas?” (smile)

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      I read the portion of the thread that dealt with today.

      One thing that jumped out was the CSI Attorney was the first to complain about “His Client’s” itinerary not being given back by the Plaintiff.

      So, the CSI Attorney basically in court admitted his client was David Miscavige, COB of RTC, and not CSI after all.

      I wonder if that will have any bearing on the proceedings.

      • DamOTclese2

        Woops! D’Oh! So hard to try to remember to pretend that all these fake names are some how different from the rest. :)

    • aegerprimo

      Awesome thread!

    • BigMcLargeHuge

      Wow, I got cross-posted. I feel special.

      • Ardent

        Love your name, McLargeHuge. (chuckles)

    • whenpigsswim

      Phones are psychotic? I hadn’t heard that one before.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Yea, because you can’t tell if the other person was listening, can’t see his body reaction and there is no record of what actually was said.

        So, because there is no “memory” you cannot pin down the reality. Lack of reality is supposedly psychotic. Hence “Phones are psychotic.” That’s why so much of scientology is freaky about keeping records of everything. The records are considered its “Mind.”

        • whenpigsswim

          I see. Well, it makes perfect sense to me now! ;-)

    • pronoia
    • pronoia

      LONE STAR: At lunch today I found myself in the same little sandwich shop with the Rathbuns, Yvonne Schick, Mike Bennitt, local journalist named Nick, Ray Jeffrey and team. That’s a lot of entheta for one little sandwich shop. It’s a miracle it didn’t spontaneously combust! Lol…..

      We were also joined by some local OSAbot volunteers, one of whom is a DSA.

      I’m thinking of playing a game to see how long it takes for me to find out that I’ve been “made”. Lol…..

      Most likely I was. That’s alright. I’m ready to be outed. I wouldn’t have gone if I weren’t. Fuck ‘em.

      They never went into the courthouse. They hang around outside and watch people and cars. Then they follow the SP crowd to lunch.

      La La La LOSERS!!!!

      • OT8squared

        They wrote a knowledge report about your turkey club, only a PTS or SP would insist on a sandwich with 3 slices of bread.

  • Miss Tia

    I just keep thinking about COB having to be deposed and I keep thinking HA HA! and in my mind it sounds like Nelson Muntz! ETA: EEK!! Sorry the video’s so big!!! YIKES! I’d delete it but i know disqus would keep it up anyway! HAHA on me I guess!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSV-VtJfwRw

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Big fits the news.

      • Miss Tia

        True! thanks for that perspective! :)

    • Ardent

      Very suitable! I picture Lisa doing this, too.

  • Baby

    You might want to go over to Radar and see my comment … just click newest..haahahhaa ( link is posted somewhere.. shit..)

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      6 dog is back over there now too.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        So… painfully… easy… to refute.

        I have a busy evening. Love you all!

      • DamOTclese2

        He was way too homophobic for me to play with. :)

      • Baby

        Hahahhaha YES HE WAS.. thanks Free..

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts
      • Baby

        Thanks sweetie..

    • Ardent

      Ahh…Hi Baby. I was hoping you’d show up. Yes, I went over and read. Quite the roomful of raging Scientologists over there, huh? Bunch of losers. I find it both amusing and pathetic that they are trying to paint the Bunkerites and others as ‘extremists’ or a ‘hate group’, when really, the opposite is true. Well, we all know the bizarre views those trapped in the cult of Scientology does to a person. Such deluded people. Lord love a duck!

      • Ardent

        Umm, the last post there lacked a little in the grammar department. I better to stare at a wall for a few hours. Sorry.

      • Baby

        Hi Columbo..taking a quick breath..**pant Pant*** Only one 6dog now..but ..Meh..He’s wearing down.. We are wearing him down.. Yep.. deluded..

        Lord love a duck..hahahha xoxoox going back in..( I’M GOINNNNNNN IN..)

        • Ardent

          Fight the good fight. Cheers! Those sad-sacks. When the light shines in on their twisted little world, I hope there will be enough safety netting to catch them all.

          • Baby

            Columbo..I can’t imagine..Just can’t imagine what it will be like..OMG.. I love seeing you.. xo

  • Jon Hendry

    Scientology was mentioned on the BBC’s Radio 4 News Quiz program today, in a part covering the Scientology weddings decision.

    Key lines:
    “They do important work… with the gullible.”
    “[Xenu story recap]..As we wander now through life, the souls of our long-dead relatives stick to us, and bring us down. Which does sound quite a lot like a wedding.” “And/or cellulite.”
    “Scientology was founded by L. Ron Hubbard and based on a rejected script for Blake’s 7″

  • Room 101

    (REFRESH)

  • N. Graham

    Hope this sets a precedent that all other judges can follow-DM DOES head Scientology and is responsible for most of the criminal actions.

  • Room 101

    It would fucking suck to be a troll right now

    • DamOTclese2

      It has sucked being a Scientology customer for like the past 20 years now. :)

      • Room 101

        Eh, wasn’t all bad. The cheese burgers at Flag were actually pretty boss. The rest of the religion was shit, though.

        • Espiando

          That must have been before they truly understood the History Of The Burrito.

          • whenpigsswim

            Right and before they had that secret recipe for guacamole.

          • Room 101

            I’m sure this is an inside joke but I must have missed the whole burrito thing

            • Jean

              LRH invented the burrito

            • Fremdscham

              My lame attempt at making fun of Tom Cruise saying to Matt Lauer “You don’t know the history of psychiatry… I do.” Yes. I’m a dork who laughs at my own jokes when no one else does. :)

            • marti

              Who would not remember that “Today” segment of Tom Cruise imitating David Miscavige lambasting psychiatry?

            • Ardent

              Love it – and I hate his guts. Thanks, Frem.

            • DamOTclese2

              Here is the photograph:

            • Robert Eckert

              One of the Sunday Funnies showed a piece from a restaurant in a Sci-ti building, where they described the history of the burrito in a convoluted manner full of misunderstanding of the source material they were copying.

            • Jean

              It was a case of plagiarism from another food writer

            • Robert Eckert

              Source document: go down to the Hibiscus restaurant

              http://www.scribd.com/doc/177422310/Fort-Harrison-Newsletter

          • Fremdscham

            “You don’t know the History of the Burrito… I do.”

            • DamOTclese2

              Grab a copy of the photograph, spread it around! Twitter it!

            • Fremdscham

              Love it!

        • Ardent

          It wasn’t Soylent yellow?

          • Espiando

            Only after it passed through the digestive system.

            • jeff

              “Thetans didn’t like that.”

    • Ardent

      I thought they enjoyed all that?

    • Noni Mause

      You missed all the downvote joy that was going around earlier. The second you hit ‘post’ you’d get a downvote. Someone was very upset by todays news.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    What amazing, amazing news.

    I still have a busy evening, and a lot to do this weekend. See you all on Monday or so!

  • Lurkness

    Article in Freedom Rag titled: “A Liar is a Coward; A Perjurer is a Criminal” makes me wonder how this may apply to DM in the end,

    • SopranoAscends

      link?

      • Lurkness

        see above.

        A LIAR IS A COWARD. A PERJURER IS A CRIMINAL. THE RATHBUN, RINDER, DEVOCHT CONSPIRACY

        “Individuals with criminal minds tend to band together since the presence of other criminals about them tends to prove their own distorted ideas of man in general.”

        —L. Ron Hubbard

        http://whoistomdevocht.com/articles/a_liar_is_a_coward1.html

        • Ardent

          Gee, Ron. You just looked in a mirror, didn’t you?

        • SopranoAscends

          This is evil.

      • Eclipse-girl

        This edition of Freedom magazine made me want to vomit. Please read it in small doses.

    • aegerprimo

      WOW! This was an LRH quote in the latest Freedommag dot org?

  • Fremdscham

    I have GOT to make a friend near me who is also a Bunkerite. I’ve been dying all day to chat with someone about today’s events. Got a mere “meh” from the significant other. I’d go bonkers if not for the Bunker. I have too much gleeful schadenfreude to contain with a mere “meh.” Has anyone here successfully sucked a friend into being interested in this madness?

    • Ardent

      I know what you mean, Frem. My other does not really care, and thinks I’m loco for being so absorbed by the machinations of this evil cult. I’d love to sit around and discuss things with someone in person, but I have yet to actually run into anyone who shares my fascination. I suppose it is, for myself as a ‘never in’, something of a hobby – but that term makes flippant what is very serious. My concerns regarding this cult run deep and are profoundly held. I fear for those inside the terrible lie, and fear for those getting sucked into the vortex of lies, and I have an abiding disgust for lazy, off-the-cuff reportage of what has to be one of the most insidious, vile and inhumane cults to ever exist. So, after that rant, let me end by saying again: I know what you mean.

      • Fremdscham

        I’m a never in and have never personally met anyone who was/is “in.” That being said I find this so very compelling. I care so much for people I’ve never met. Mostly I marvel at how many who have left are able to function so well. Don’t get me wrong, I realize there must be those who leave who have a very very tough time–but just the task of getting out and rebuilding, wow. I can’t imagine. Especially for former Sea Org; I’m not so sure I myself would be able to create a decent life after that. It goes to show that humans are amazing I guess. People can overcome and survive so much and still be capable of decency and compassion and spirit.

        • Ardent

          I share that opinion completely. I read Jenna Hill’s book with complete amazement (and horror) and I am so very happy she has now got the family and husband she deserves – all the love that she has to give to her children, and all the positivity she spreads is a quiet but savage repudiation of SeaOrg ‘Ethics’. I wish all ex-members, or those considering blowing, all the strength good fortune and true support in the world. If nothing else, there are friendly places online to help you cope, like right here at Tony’s site. Peace.

          • Eclipse-girl

            I have a personal question to both Ardent and Frem

            Did you undergo a trauma? It is my belief that for many of us Never Ins , something happened to us that hurt us. Through that pain, and challenge (Surviving) we became more empathetic than some (than most).

            Our empathy draws us in to why do some people become victims of any cult, and that all who are sucked in are victims

            I hope that makes some sense.

            • Ardent

              Well, E-Girl, I have had some rough times, and had severe depression for a long time. It has passed, and I am now in a far better place. Nothing really out of the ordinary for the run-of-the-mill neurotic type : ) But I feel for anyone who is ‘lost’. Also, the whole anti-psychiatry bullshit makes me furious. ( The Tom Cruise thing on TV just makes me freak OUT with anger, the smug, arrogant prick!) The sheer ignorance of the cult’s stance staggers me, and the cherry-picking they do regarding error or malpractice is simply propaganda crap. I am also intolerant of human rights abuses. per.se. One other thing: a very close female friend, I discovered to my utter horror, was subject to very criminal abuses right next door while we were children, and I never knew or even had a hint. Nobody did. She only opened up to me recently, and that revelation only added to my rage against those who would misuse children in any manner.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I also suffered from a severe depression and suicidal ideation. I never acted on those thoughts.

              I am grateful from the meds and the therapy I received.

              As children, we do not see everything. I understand the anger you feel about anyone who would hurt a child. I hope your friend has had what she has needed to start to heal.

            • Priscilla

              seems to me that there is cultish behaviour in many organizations – religious and otherwise (including families). If one is subjected to enough of that, one either becomes a bully or develops sensitivity and empathy towards the bullied. That is how I see it, anyway.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I agree.

            • Ardent

              Yes, she has, thanks. Doing very well.

            • Eclipse-girl

              Wonderful news

            • Fremdscham

              I had a difficult childhood. My mother was mentally ill and verbally abusive. I became an extreme introvert. Painfully shy and with zero self esteem. I didn’t get a lot of parental guidance so I delved into unhealthy relationships and drug use. Eventually I got tired of being poor and hungry and I got a college degree and a decent career and nice family. But along the way I’ve mostly been more comfortable with people who are flawed, have issues, are just different, are not typical. I have trouble, for instance, relating to coworkers who wax nostalgic about college days and sports teams. I went to college late in life on my own dime with no support after having wasted years beating myself up for not being normal. Anyway, I think it makes me a nonjudgmental person for the most part. And I admire anyone who can overcome difficult circumstances having done it myself to some extent.

            • Eclipse-girl

              (((HUGS))) you deserve them

              It is not easy surviving a difficult childhood. Most people who do survive, have to learn in the ways that you did.

              we are all different. There is no real normal. But it takes many years to realize that.

              (((HUGS)))

            • Jean

              I was exposed to a benign cult as a youth. It honed my sense for cultic behaviour. I can sense it easily, but my red alarms go off with any mention of money in exchange for religion.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I am not sure there is such a thing as a benign cult.
              I think one can be exposed and come out relatively unharmed, like those who take a few classes in scientology, and then leave.
              Your gut knows when something isn’t right because you have been exposed.

              I fully agree paying to learn a “religion” should start the alarms ringing for anyone.

              (((HUGS)))

        • Jean

          Great post.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Frem,
      I am about to go to bed You deserve a TY and (((HUGS)))

      I was not going to respond and let others decide on Radar ( I think)
      I was willing to attempt for subtle.

      And you went it and made it obvious

      TY again

      • Fremdscham

        I don’t comment much. But yes I felt the need to argue with 6dog on Radar.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Mr E is not pleased with my obsession. I didn’t bother to tell him WHY i was in such a good mood. He has his reasons. He is anti cult.

          It is a challenge. I guess I find my support here rather than finding someone in my physical community.

  • ShoopZ

    Here’s the new headline:

    Scientology Demands Written-Only Deposition. Judge Says, “Over My Dead Body Thetans!”

  • Anandamide

    Hee.

  • Anandamide

    Meant to add:

    • Rita Gregory

      May I use this? I read those books to my daughters when they were small and they would get a big kick out of this. I love it.

      • Anandamide

        It isn’t my work, just a fun random jpg so have at it :)

        • Rita Gregory

          Cool.

  • Jean

    Miscavige is going to be like putty for the Rathbun legal team:)

    • marti

      David Puddy.

  • marti

    Which takes precedence in American scientology?
    Scientology over U. S. citizenship or U. S. citizenship over scientology?

    • jeff

      I believe it’s Scientology uber alles.

      • marti

        So, above everything else.
        I couldn’t find anything online re: scientologists were scientologists first and American citizens secondary.
        If it was mentioned on Tony’s site then I missed it.

        • jeff

          Um, in their eyes, this might be true, but not in the eyes of the law.

          • marti

            Not in the eyes of the law but what do scientologists believe?
            Or are told to believe?

            • jeff

              Precisely.

            • Ardent

              I was under the impression the passport thing was enforced – you have no choice in the vaunted world-saving SeaOrg, apparently.

            • jeff

              He doesn’t ask Americans for their passport (many Americans do not have one).

            • Jean

              No, they are just making it harder to get back in to the USA. They can get back in, it just takes longer without a passport.

            • Whoknew

              Since L. Ron Hate said the goal was to become the government…to take over the world eventually, their loyalty would not be to any other government.

            • valshifter

              I was an illegal alien when I was recruited by the sea org, and they didn’t care about that. they told me, don’t worry if they seek a deportation on you we will send you quickly to a ship or to a place somewhere where they can’t find you. SCARY!!!!!!!

    • Great White Clam

      $ceintology $ceintology über alles, über alles in der Veldt

      Specially the $$$$$$$$$ part

    • Ardent

      I wonder about that too. Do Scientologists hold their native countries’ laws/ethos to be obeyed, or does Scientology, the cult, actually have precedence, since they believe they are actually ‘saving the world’ from invisible creatures bent on destruction? Very interesting question. Who is around here who would know?

  • Room 101

    (REFRESH)

    • DamOTclese2

      Not one thin dime for Wollershime! (snicker)

      • Whoknew

        Haha! Texas will be our side’s Portland.

    • Rita Gregory

      Now that is something he CAN take all the credit for.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    combined, almost 2600 posts today, and the night is young…

  • DamOTclese2

    Do ya feel that?! Do ya FEEL THAT?!

  • DamOTclese2

    Little David got hoist by his own petard, his own “Freedom Magazine” confirmed that he is the ringleader calling all the shots and “doing business in Texas” despite the sworn statement he filed with the court.

    Hang there and dangle, David! Can’t help but bring the smirks!

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      He’s having every physical copy shredded and burned. He will place the ashes in the soil of a young oak tree. Then he will chop that bitch down.

      • DamOTclese2

        Yeah, one has to wonder why he couldn’t get every copy of the rag destroyed, but I guess there are too many wogs that have copies for the lulz.

        The clown removed Heber’s name from their web site entirely, his name appears not once on Scientology’s web site despite being the “President” of the whole shooting match. Guess Miscavige is also the syndicate’s “President.”

      • Eclipse-girl

        There is a copy on the interwebz

        And I think the court in TX has a physical copy of mag.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          I’m joking that he would do that in a fit of anger. Not to hide evidence.

          • Eclipse-girl

            (((HUGS))) I know.

        • DamOTclese2

          Well now David is ordering his minions to hunt down every printed copy and on-line copy of every document that mentions him to see what else might be out there that could hang him. :)

          • Eclipse-girl

            Because only an idiot would think that would help.

            The paper trail, and the electronic trail are out there.

            I am grateful for the document that people risked their lives for to smuggle out and publish.

  • DamOTclese2

    Remember little Damion being driven to the church? Remember what happened when the little demon realized he was going to have to set foot on to holy ground?

    Reminds me of David being dragged in to deposition. Screaming tantrum with wet snot splattering everywhere to commence in 5…4…3…

    • OT8squared

      Or to paraphrase from one of his BFF’s movies:
      David Miscavige, YOU CAN’T HANDLE (telling) THE TRUTH!

      • DamOTclese2

        I doubt that David even knows what the truth is any more. He’s pathological, seems like.

  • Eclipse-girl

    This is a bit personal.

    I have high anxiety / insomnia (make the mel brooks jokes, its oK)

    I sleep 2 – 4 hrs and wake up. Its diffiicult to deal with.

    I think for the first night in a while (and they do happen) I will be able to sleep a little more deeply, soundly.

    I have some confidence that things will happen the way I want them to .

    (((HUGS)))) to everyone. It has been a long and momentous day.

    • whenpigsswim

      Good night. Hope you do sleep deep and sound tonight!

    • KJP in Portland

      Goodnight sweetheart ! (((HUGS)))

    • Minion Gayle

      Pleasant dreams of Davey cowering in fear as the man comes to take him away!

    • Ardent

      Sleep soundly, sleep well.

    • Jean

      Check out abdominal breathing exercises… does wonders for insomnia and anxiety

      • Eclipse-girl

        TY. I will.

    • Baby

      Oh E.. Me too.. sleep well sweetheart..love baby.. I’ll snuggle with you tonight under the moonlight..OK.. It’s a beautiful night where I live ( Not rubbing it in for all you with snow..) sigh..

    • i-Betty

      Sweet dreams, love. I hope that by the time you read this you will have enjoyed a solid 7-8 hours and will be feeling wonderfully rested :) xxx

      • Eclipse-girl

        I did sleep well. It was nice. I have a dinner party tonight for Mr E’s company. I am grateful for the extra rest

  • OT8squared

    “But not the Pope!” exclaimed Ricardo Cedillo, attorney for Scientology.

    “We all laughed at that, and so did the judge,” Jeffrey said.

    I am sure COB laughed when he heard that too. After all, he is so much more important than the Pope.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Some day I hope to hear this quote from David Miscavige: “I did not meet Bubba when I went to Federal Prison, Bubba met ME!”

    • marti

      Shades of President Clinton at a dinner they both attended as guests of Tom Cruise along with Oprah and Steven Spielberg. Correct me if I am wrong.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Yep, IIRC, that is what DM said about it. “They met ME!” I forget who relayed that anecdote.

        • marti

          Marc Headly I believe. Not too long ago on Tony’s blog.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            Yep, Marc Headley. It is in his book “Blown for Good, Behind the iron curtain of scientology”

            It’s on page 281. I think he has posted it here too.

        • Ardent

          Make me want to puke. Incredible arrogance.

  • marti

    Way off topic – snow is starting here in Northern Ohio. 1 am.

    • stanrogers

      Oh, spiffing. We should have it here in Toronto soon, then. When I was a kid, they told me we’d be living in temperature-controlled domed cities by now. And have rocket packs and hover cars. What the hell went wrong?

      • whenpigsswim

        Well, they do have those new drones that are going to deliver packages. I saw it on the news so it must be true.

        • Kitz

          “Skeet shooting with prizes”

          • SopranoAscends

            I read that to one of my man-children. “That’s beautiful,” he laughed.

            • Kitz

              Isn’t it? I can’t take credit for that, though. It was a meme that was posted on FB by a friend. :-)

      • marti

        i would settle for a hover shovel.

        • Rita Gregory

          :D

      • Priscilla

        Snow and freezing rain in Edmonton. We are accustomed to snow, but freezing rain in December? not so much. Family all safe at home now and we’ll stay that way tomorrow.

    • Rita Gregory

      Started with sleet about 3 pm here. Changed to snow and we are expecting 3 to 7 inches overnight. Argh! Stay in and stay safe. :)

  • whenpigsswim

    I rarely post personal things here, but I am writing this in the hopes it will be cathartic and help me to sleep. This has been a roller coaster day of ups and downs.

    I woke up this morning at 6:30 AM to what sounded like a freight train crashing into my house. Our very large arbor which wraps around the entire back and one side of our house was struck by a huge piece of melting ice that slipped off the roof (Day #8 of Icemageddon here in TX). The entire arbor crashed down onto our patio. It crushed everything underneath it.

    If it this had happened one hour later, my twins and I would have been up having breakfast, and usually we spend a few minutes out on the back patio playing with our dog right before we leave for school. I can tell you in no uncertain terms, that had any of us been out there, we would have been killed. The weight of the deck and ice together was tremendous. I was a shaky mess for hours after this occurred, and still haven’t totally recovered mentally from the shock of it. It an instant, everything can change.

    Finally after calling insurance, contractors, etc., I calmed down enough to tune into the Bunker and was elated with all the good news coming from the Court House (thanks Derek & Tony!). That turned my day around as much as was possible at that point. Just the thought of DM going down!!!

    Then, I found out about the school shooting in Colorado and got sick to my stomach again. We used to live there and some of our friends had kids in Columbine during that tragedy. The shooting today was just 10 miles away from Columbine. All the memories came rushing back. And tomorrow is the one year anniversary of Sandy Hook. Will we ever figure this out?

    Thanks for listening everyone. I feel better having gotten it out. And thanks for including me as a part of The Bunker. I enjoy your witty and insightful comments every day!

    • Rita Gregory

      Thank heaven you and your twins are safe. Sorry you had such a rough day but at least there was some good news at the Bunker.

      • whenpigsswim

        Rita – so true. And it wasn’t just good news – it was phenomenal news!

        • Baby

          All right Piggy.. Quit thinking ” WHAT IF..” I know you are.. xoxo ( Shit I would be) but think of Christmas..

          • whenpigsswim

            You are too funny Baby and you are right, as usual. Okay – “Christmas, holidays, vacation days, cookies, tree, lights, cookies, did I say cookies?”

            • Baby

              Yep.. COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKIES.. LOTS and lots of cookies..

              OH and Pie.. Bunkers love pie.. xo

            • Tory Christman

              mmmmmmmmmmmmm….babies, twins, cookies, pie and the Bunkettes :) (hugs) :)

            • SopranoAscends

              Must be Christmas!

    • Baby

      Piggy..OMG how very, very scary.. So glad you guys are OK.. OMG I bet you were shaken up and scared.. all of you.. ((((((HUGS))))))) Sweetie..I am so sorry for what you had to go through..

      Yes.. Bunker relief is just what you needed..

      UH.. We love pigs DUH? ( I only watched Babe like 100 times and cried each time)

      • whenpigsswim

        That’s why I’m a piggie – so you’ll love me. Thanks for your kinds words Baby. I’m amazed how much if affected me, but I’m sure I’ll feel better after some sleep tonight. We’re all safe and that is what matters!

        • Baby

          Good God.. What a noise… smooches piggy..

        • SopranoAscends

          A mother’s heart…I understand. Hugs.

    • Ardent

      I am very grateful you are all safe. How dreadful. Here’s a nice big hug and lots of invisible but real support.

      • whenpigsswim

        Thanks Ardent. And it feels like real support (not invisible) to me.

        • Robert Eckert

          Venting at the Bunker summons up waves of good vibes that have magical effects. Don’t ask me how I know.

          • whenpigsswim

            I am so glad to hear this. Waves of good vibes sounds divine.

    • i-Betty

      Good grief, thank god you’re all okay!

      • whenpigsswim

        Thanks i-Betty. Me too!!!

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Glad you lived to tell this tale. Sounds like an up and down day. It’s like the emotional version of one of those amusement park thingers.

      • whenpigsswim

        Thanks so much. Today will be a better day.

    • Tory Christman

      Angels are watching over your and the twins,

      whenpigsswim..
      This you have to know. Soooo happy you’re all fine. (hugs) Tory/Magoo

      • whenpigsswim

        Thanks so much Tory. I’ll take angels anytime!

  • Ardent

    Must go now friends. Catch you later. Be well everyone. Oh, one last thing…Anyone heard from Monkey-knickers lately? Is she having those wee babes? Is she OK?

    • Rita Gregory

      She’s good. She was putting together a crib earlier and swung by for a minute. Babies have not arrived as yet.

      • Minion Gayle

        The longer the better with twins! Keep ‘em cooking.

    • Baby

      night Columbo.. Kiss to the Mrs.

  • Jean

    You just know Miscavige is going to try going Tone 40 at Judge Waldrip.

    That will not go well…for COB.

    • stanrogers

      Yeah. It’s really too bad about all of this modern anti-smoking law stuff… in the old days, he just might have (finally) seen a flying ashtray.

  • InterestedObserver12

    1:45 am, just home from work. F…ing amazing! Once all legal avenues of avoiding Judge Waldrip’s order have been exhausted will Miscavage blow, like Elron did, rather than face a deposition? I would not be at all surprised. I can’t believe this is happening. Soooo happy. Tick-tock, Davy. Tick-tock.

    • Robert Eckert

      I have been saying all week that I doubt Davey ever returned to the US from Taiwan. He does not want to create a record of clearing customs here which would say where he was when. The freakout over his planned itinerary for the next few months is probably because it is already inaccurate (I bet he was scheduled to be at Flag graduation this evening; I bet he was not there).

      • Baby

        Good Observation Robert.. I saw a post on Rinder’s the other day..and I thought of you..

        ( it had a big word in it and I didn’t know it..) and I was going to copy and paste it..for you and I’ll be damned..

        YOU WROTE IT..HAHAHA

  • Jean

    Radar is going to freak with the spike in comments on that article, it’s going 525+ comments

    • Rita Gregory

      They’ll be featuring Scientology articles a LOT if that keeps up! :)

  • Whoknew

    Here’s to that, here’s to you, here’s to her, here’s to us, here’s to all! YAY AND CONGRATS!

    • Jean

      YAY!

      • Baby

        Jean..OMG … Did you come here from Radar? Welcome Welcome..woo hoo.. You did so good

  • Baby

    My Ass Is so sore.. OMG.. and I filled up my Hookah like 2 times sitting on Radar..

    *********BUNKER ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND WE MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT OTHERS WITH US OVER HERE.. WOO HOO…. WE ROCKED IT. GOT TONY A LOT OF ACTION .. IN THE PROCESS AND

    Facts..Facts..Facts.. I’m pooped.. xoxo love baby… I even had to tell Espi to breathe..hahaha …

    • Tory Christman

      I am sooooooooooooo proud of all of you! You make such a difference…..I cannot put it into

      words, except to say: thank you ALL. And most of all, thank you Tony O! <3 {{hugs}} <3

      • Rita Gregory

        Right back atcha, Tory!

        • Tory Christman

          Thanks, Rita…..is this a Merry Christmas or what?
          AND a Happy Friday the 13th, too! :)

          • Rita Gregory

            Great present today! :)

            • Tory Christman

              Certainly better than I had imagined. I know yesterday some peeps were bummed due to UK deciding C of $ is a “religion” …but I said: “Fear not—no matter what, history repeats itself and with that we KNOW more shit will fly”. I never dreamed it would be THIS and this soon! Yay for Mosey and Tony, Yay the attorneys, Yay the Bunkettes!! ROCK ON :)

            • Baby

              Wasn’t that the biggest joke.. Honestly.. Big Deal Lucille.. UK..

              and yes.. We were Yelpin in Hollerin in here about the trial.. OMG Tory ..we can not wait..

      • Baby

        Tory… You maybe didn’t start this shit, but Ya sure did move it along quite nicely hahahha
        We are just Paying it forward.. xo Baby ..yawwwwwwwwwwn

    • SopranoAscends

      Please pass the what e’er you got in that cooker.

      • Rita Gregory

        I think it’s her fancy ecig. Darn.

        • SopranoAscends

          Oh no no no! Lose the tobacco. There are better things.

          • Baby

            Soprano..The tobacco is just flavoring

          • Rita Gregory

            Just using the ecigs. But there are absolutely better things… :)

            • SopranoAscends

              Yep. HELLO from the Pacific N.W.

            • Rita Gregory

              I lived on the coast of Oregon for about a year about 30 years ago. Rainy, but when the sun was out it was GORGEOUS! I did miss the change of seasons and am back in the midwest where it is now snowing. Supposed to get 3 to 7 inches tonight.

            • Baby

              Well.. Rita.. You did good tonight.. We worked as a team all of us..

              Extremist ORG hahahhaha… niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight yawn..

              Would you spread the word that when SCN is mentioned on Radar that all someone has to do is click on my avi.. if there are NASTY Trolls..

              and when I wake up I will check my E mail and go over to They Should Not have Died .. I will just repeat..wash and rinse.. xoxo love me.

            • Rita Gregory

              Will do! <3

      • Baby

        hahahhahahha Yep Rita is right.. My State of the Art.. Never in this century..THE NEW EDITION.. THE BRAND NEW MUST HAVE!!!!!!! E Cig..

        Tried to sound like a SCN but too tired..hahahhaha

        • Rita Gregory

          I have cherry and coffee smoke juice and fancy new refillable cartridges coming any day now! Next month Chocolate and maybe some grape. Love my ecig!

          • Baby

            Yay.. You know I tried those fancy flavors.. I love sweets and it is so weird I just do the Tobacco Vaporing.. I think that is so weird of me..I hated the taste of tobacco in real cigs.

            I love, love, love mine..love!

            • Rita Gregory

              I like the tobacco too but I like to switch it up. :)

  • DodoTheLaser

    Questions to the lawyers here:

    Who’s going to deliver the subpoena to COB?
    Is it possible for him to evade the deposition by evading being subpoened?

    • Baby

      Hi sweetie.. I’m going to bed..but I think Robert E is still around.. xoxox Baby zzzzzzzzzzz

      • DodoTheLaser

        :) Sweet dreams!

    • Lurkness

      He is a party to the lawsuit currently. COB entered a limited appearance to seek his dismissal as a defendant and thereby has submitted to the court’s jurisdiction. That is sufficient for court to direct his deposition through counsel, no separate subpoena should be necessary.

      • Baby

        Lurkness.. That is music to my ears.. Now I know I’ll have sweet dreams.. thank you..

      • DodoTheLaser

        Great, thank you!

  • Graham

    Here in England is the National Secular Society’s view on the recent ‘$cientology is a religion’ legal judgement: http://www.secularism.org.uk/blog/2013/12/scientologys-dream-comes-true

    • Great White Clam

      Nice link. A Snipp from that link;

      “””In France, of course, Scientology is referred to as “a totalitarian
      cult” and was, for a while, in danger of being banned. A French
      parliamentary report said Scientology should be dissolved “because of
      swindling, complicity, abuse of trust and other nefarious activities”.”””

    • Dean Fox

      Actually taught me something, I was not aware that the presumption of religions being for the public benefit had been removed; there is a private members bill before parliament to try to get that reinstated. Perhaps there is hope yet that the church of scientology despite all their weaselling will still be denied charitable status.

      • Great White Clam

        More here;

        “””””The Supreme Court has ruled, unanimously, that a Scientologist chapel is
        “a place of meeting for religious worship” for the purposes of section 2
        of the Places of Worship Registration Act 1855, and therefore it may be
        licensed for the solemnisation of marriage”””””””

        http://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2013/12/11/a-rare-win-for-scientology-supreme-court/

  • DodoTheLaser

    Let’s see if I have it right:

    - Scientology has time till December 20th to appeal against deposing COB
    - If they fail, COB will be deposed next day despite his “busy” schedule

    Am I right?

    • Lurkness

      No, they then will need to find a date to schedule, sometime after the 20th.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Thanks! So basically they have 7 days to try and we won’t hear anything till 20th.
        If they will win the appeal – COB will not be deposed and if they fail – COB will be deposed, but it can take a few month? What does “sometime after the 20th” means? Why is “the busy schedule” even part of this? Obviously, I don’t know how it works in the law land, but it would only make sense to get him deposed ASAP, weather he is busy or not, since the judge ordered so.

        • Baby

          Do

          His lawyers were bitchin and moanin about he has such a busy schedule blah, blah, blah.. That he can’t possible make it for months..

          and the Judge wasn’t buying it.. so He is aware.. ( PS I could care less, but check your sp for whether..night) yawwwwwwwn…

          • DodoTheLaser

            Thanks, Baby :) Spelling is corrected. Grammar still sucks, I am sure. lol
            What I want to know is how soon we can expect the deposition to happen?

            • Lurkness

              Anyone’s guess and unlikely before year end. We can expect shenanigans from CoS. Hopefully they will keep messing around at this, causing the court to issue sanctions (monetarily and on issues). Recall, Davey wants to be dismissed from case–court will never grants this if he doesn’t submit to deposition, for instance,

            • DodoTheLaser

              Ok. Yes, confirms my logic train. I appreciate your replies, good sir Lurkness.
              It really helps to understand what is going on exactly.

            • Baby

              Hahhaha I am not the grammar or spelling police.. I don’t even know why I even said that.. I was tired..

          • SopranoAscends

            Baby? We must be in the same time zone. PST?

          • 0tessa

            Busy with his jacuzzi and the likes most probably.

        • SopranoAscends

          Assuming the court in Austin takes the weekend off, more like five days. They will submit a request for some emergency hearing…But, yeah, the Judge basically hosed ‘em. DM lives in a parallel universe, as we know. I have faith that this Judge will not tolerate evasive moves on this issue.

          • DodoTheLaser

            I really hope you are right. Fingers crossed. Thank you.
            Do you think the deposition can actually happen before the end of this year?
            And what if Miscavige will lie, while being deposed?

            • SopranoAscends

              No idea as to when. There was some sort of complaining by his atty(s) over how oh very busy he was through March. It’s in the notes above. As to perjury if that becomes an issue, he can be fined somehow. You would have to ask one of the fine legal minds who drop in here, but IMHO, I should think perjury, or suspected perjury might open the door for the plaintiff to request more depos, specifically of the Mrs., the Mistress and others.

    • SopranoAscends

      Waldrip gave them until next Friday (12/20) at 5:00pm. They have one week to appeal his order to compel DM to submit to a deposition. After Friday, they will get to find Waldo and set the date.

  • sugarplumfairy

    “…Also, Jeffrey surprised Scientology’s attorneys by bringing with him a proposed order for deposing not only Miscavige, but also the church leader’s wife, Shelly Miscavige, his personal “communicator” Laurisse, and also Linda Hamel, who runs Scientology’s spy wing, the Office of Special Affairs…”

    Ray Jeffrey is freaking awesome..

    • Baby

      Yep Fairy..and he knows Scin backwards and forwards.. Inside and Out.. Intelligent man who is not intimidated by those Ya Whoos..

      and the Judge Ain’t playin their games either.. Let’s pray for safety for all involved in seeking justice.

      • Baby

        Hahahhahaa Man I really got on the Downies nerves tonight..

        Oh I am absolutely devastated.. bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhahhahahaa

    • shasha40

      Yes he Is , only wish I could have been there especially for the , ” but not the Pope !” ” We all laughed at that , including the Judge .”, Jeffrey said .” Priceless , just frickin priceless !

      • DodoTheLaser

        Something I posted here 9 days ago:

        “Judge: Captain Miscavige, please explain your title.
        David: I was appointed so by Commodore Hubbard.
        Judge: Thank you, Captain. Please take a seat.

        (The judge and almost everyone in the court room are bursting in laughs uncontrollably,
        while trying to act like they are sneezing, coughing, crying and face palming).”

        Things we say in The Bunker tend to come true…. :)

        • shasha40

          Dodo , I didn’t realize your OT powerz worked ! I remeber that post ! Please let us know when we can sing my Scientology is gone song . ( exact date please !) snicker ..snort …

    • DodoTheLaser

      2013 – The Year of Epic Depositions.
      2014 – Stay tuned for more.

  • Great White Clam

    Looks like he be getting beat up pretty bad with all the devT & entheta & WOG on his lines. I almost feel BAD REAL BAD for that C.O.B. MuskCabbage.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Yeah, and I feel bad for anyone who had a misfortune to be in COB’s vicinity today.

      • 0tessa

        Especially his consiglieri’s.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Yes, especially them.

          • Modesto

            I suspect there may soon be a change of lineup in Team Lawyer …

            • DodoTheLaser

              What are your thoughts on it, Modesto?

            • Modesto

              I think it’s only a question of whether selected lawyers will be fired or will resign – either way, it would be a gratifying sign of a case in disarray – the ex-team members will of course be the lucky ones – no amount of cash is worth that amount of professional humiliation

            • DodoTheLaser

              Agreed. Nothing like hiring 16 stellar lawyers, spending a small fortune on them and still failing miserably. Thanks for your input.

            • SopranoAscends

              Someone posted here that DM may not have returned from his dog and pony show in Taiwan yet.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m sorry, but it is their duty to defend their client to the best of their ability, so they will continue, but the amount of money COB will pay them will now for their grandchildren’s college. Of course, it will all be from the poorer clams and whales.

            • Modesto

              In any ‘normal’ case MK, that would be quite correct but, as we all know, this isn’t a normal case – IANAL but from my limited researches ( http://research.lawyers.com/When-an-Attorney-Must-or-May-Withdraw-Mid-Case.html ) it seems that there are are a number of ways in which the client-attorney relationship can be ended and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a few boxes on that list waiting to be checked off, not least the ‘personality conflicts’ one – The Captain: ‘Well boys, I asked a lot of you but it just wasn’t to be – I’d just like you to know, though, that I really appreciate your professionalism and your valiant efforts on my behalf’ – my guess is that is almost precisely what will not happen …

            • Missionary Kid

              You’re right about checking off the boxes, but what I see happening is that for the $cion attorneys, they’ll stay through thick and thin, convinced that the wogs have conspired against them.

              For the other attorneys, they will try to prep DM for the deposition. Once the deposition occurs, and they see how bad he is at testifying, and how weak their case is, they’ll try to delay the case going to court, then start settlement attempts.

              When settlement doesn’t work, because Mosey will not sign a non-disclosure agreement, and the case proceeds to trial, then the real choice will take place. Will DM’s attorney’s have the cajones to tell DM that they run the trial strategy, not him? Will he listen and obey? At this point, it gives DM the chance to delay a trial further by changing attorneys. In the short term, DM will consider that a good thing, because it delays the proceedings. That just delays the inevitable: a huge jugement against the {church} and Slappy.

              Someone recently posted here that Shelly had confided to someone that the one person who Davey felt could do the most damage was Marty. Of course, for revenge and intimidation against Marty, he sent the squirrel busters to follow his orders, thinking that since Marty left him, ipso facto, Marty is unhinged, and he could drive him completely crazy by harassing him. DM ignored the fact that the RFP just toughened Marty up.

              His tactics in this case are simply a continuance of the personal onslaught against Marty, and, once more, he cannot envision the blowback, be it financial or in the court of human opinion. He doesn’t care. His hatred for anyone who leaves Co$, because he considers it a personal betrayal, is that of a thousand suns. He really doesn’t care about lawyers quitting. That will only be a speed bump to him.

            • Modesto

              Very true; it would be merely be a visible symptom of disharmony within the other side – if not now, then the future promises to get even rockier – as you say, though, there are different rules for clam-counsel

            • Baby

              Excellent Post Kid.. and I agree.. We are exactly on the same page..

            • Miss Tia

              Yeah, I had that thought too, that DM will fire some of the attorneys….

  • DodoTheLaser

    Whatever happened to deposing Tommy Davis and Leah Remini?
    I wonder how it all will develop considering the news on deposing David Miscavige?

    • Great White Clam

      Wasnt that another case?

      • DodoTheLaser

        No, same case.

        • Great White Clam

          Might have been overshadowd by the largeness of this new developnemt…….

          • DodoTheLaser

            Understandably so. Overshadowed but not forgotten. Ray Jeffrey delivers.

            • Missionary Kid

              His ploy of mentioning that he’d like to depose Shelly Miscavige was one of those moves that he hid until now.

              The barbecue grill for DM is heating up.

    • Lurkness

      Tommy Deposed, deposition just not publicly released.

      • DodoTheLaser

        I remember it now. What would it take to release it?
        The law land – I wish it was less bloated and convoluted.

        • Missionary Kid

          PATIENCE!!! Ray plays hold-em very well. He’ll reveal it when he needs another nuke.

  • Great White Clam

    Old news here;

    “”””The Supreme Court has ruled, unanimously, that a Scientologist chapel is
    “a place of meeting for religious worship” for the purposes of section 2
    of the Places of Worship Registration Act 1855, and therefore it may be
    licensed for the solemnisation of marriage”””””

    http://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2013/12/11/a-rare-win-for-scientology-supreme-court/

  • shasha40

    Are we being ” punked ” ??? This is Fanfucking tastic !!! And it’s not even Ghristmas yet ! Did I mention I Looovveee Judge Waldrip ? Tiny dick , I think you’ve met the Right Judge at the Right time to hasten your demise ! You gonna try and pull a ” lrh ” sail around the world to see which country will harbor you ? Newflash ! No one wants you in their country ! Time for a sing along ! Scientology’s going down , going down ….. Here that clock ticking Davey? Your times almost up ! Tick Tock …

  • DodoTheLaser

    TEXAS JUDGE ORDERS DEPOSITION OF SCIENTOLOGY LEADER DAVID MISCAVIGE

    Just because it’s epic fact.

    • Lurkness

      Only thing better (aside from a jail sentence) for lulz would be:

      “Court Orders Psych Examination of David Miscavige”

      Could you imagine the fallout?! Lulz

      • DodoTheLaser

        Anyone who is a Pope and a Captain is above such lowly, denigrating examination.
        For all we know, the universe can break if something like that will be allowed to happen.

    • 0tessa

      His mobile home is ready for take off.

  • Krew13

    How sweet it is, how sweet it is! Slappy will have to give a normal deposition. No restrictions. Captain Midget on video and audio. He must’ve had about 40 changes of his small boy y-fronts in the last 15 hours. Payback time, bitch.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Do you know if it wiIl be available in public domain?
      Every deposition I’ve seen so far was in a written form.
      Video and audio, in addition to that would uber cool!

      • Krew13

        Well, we only got a written record of Cruise’s recent deposition, which suggests that his lawyers negotiated to not have the footage released, so Slappy’s lawyers will definitely ask for the same thing. No way will Tiny Fists want footage of him out there being torn to shreds under cross-examination. The Ronbots can’t see their beloved COB being fallible and totally fucked.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Makes sense. Thanks. Although it would be so much fun to watch the great leader without his teleprompters and the usual adoring audience…

        • EnthralledObserver

          I think the legal team gets to video him, like others in regular depositions, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll get to see it – it will probably be sealed at request and we’ll only get a written transcript. But, as fun as the alternative would be, I’m satisfied enough with a written copy to lulz and be enraged at.

    • MaxSpaceman

      You sure, K13?
      I saw the ruling as “live and written” – that will be like the Wollersheim depo of the Machiavellian Midget 20 years ago.Like the recent Thom Cruize depo in the publishing case- live and written.

      There will be no video.

      • SandiCorrena

        Tony said part about a live and written that was a misunderstanding at the top of this post which he was able to clear up after speaking with Ray Jeffrey.

        • MaxSpaceman

          Right, SandiC- as in there will be no video. Eh?

          • SandiCorrena

            It just says “deposition with no restrictions”; I assume it will be videoed just like any other deposition.

            • MaxSpaceman

              We’ll see. Live and written with no restrictions I can see.
              He’ll never go under video depo. He was eviscerated in his only video appearance (ABC Nightline). It’ll be like his Wallersheim depo – Judges, lawyers, obfuscation, court reporter; no video.

              I hope my take on this is completely wrong. But I don’t think the public will *ever* see Davey on video. Certainly not from this depo. Which, will, no doubt, be a massive ‘release of charge’ for thousands of people !!!

        • Robert Eckert

          At one point they were agreeing not to appeal in exchange for some restrictions, but then DM ordered them to appeal so all deals were off.

  • Krew13

    For Slappy, Friday the 13th really was a day of doom!

    • DodoTheLaser

      Wait till he unlishes the OT Super Powers.

  • Krew13

    I can genuinely imagine a scenario in which Slappy will be so terrified of being deposed, he’ll actually resort to saying a psychiatrist has assessed him and found him to be unfit for deposition because of emotional trauma and anxiety brought about by the case. That would be THE funniest thing ever. This gutless prick is so scared, I think he really would do that to dodge the deposition, and in doing so, will make himself and the entire Choke of Scamatology the biggest laughing stock of all time, which they are already but this will be to the power of a kazillion. Happy times!

    • Noni Mause

      I don’t think he’ll be fearful – I think he’ll be enraged. He won’t have any doubts in his own mind that he’ll be able to handle the ‘wog’ lawyers – he probably thinks he smashed his other depositions out of the park too, little realising that when you use words like ‘doing-ness’ and ‘acting-ness’ to describe a work function you look like a poorly educated yokel. Miscavige is going to come in and try to dominate Ray Jeffrey the moment he opens his mouth – not just because he’s the plaintiff’s lawyer, but because that’s what Miscavige does.

      • Ardent

        Judging from all I have seen and heard from him, I agree with you. DM has the fundamental wit of a doornail, yet the unpleasant cunning of a real sociopath (in my unsupervised, wild in the fields opinion).

  • EnthralledObserver

    Did Michael Bennitt get footage of the “not the Pope” then “laughter” remark? Oh, gosh I hope so!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      No, he didn’t get that footage, someone said the cameras were off at that time. Darn it.

  • Jeb Burton

    FYI, todays Tampa bay times has “Scientology leader ordered to testify” on the front page below the fold. They are going to be emptying out the paper boxes downtown today.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Good thing they don’t know how to delete The Internet.

    • Noni Mause

      Good stuff Jeb. A couple of scilons on there already claiming its all a beat up.

    • aquaclara

      Excellent….thanks!

  • Scream Nevermore

    Just up after a night of no sleep because of the slapper upstairs and her loud music, but yeah, this is still funny!!

    • Baby

      Hey Scream.. Slapper or slacker? haha What is she slapping?

      • Scream Nevermore

        Slapper – it’s a term we here in the UK use for a lady of rather light morals, or one who’s just toooooooo much of a party animal! ;-)

        • Baby

          I have never ever heard that expression before..hahahaha.. so basically you have a Whore upstairs.. Yep.. xo

          • Scream Nevermore

            Yeah – there’s a kind of comedy element involved, so you can say to a friend ‘you old slapper!’ and they’ll laugh. Say it slightly differently and you could be in a fight! ;-)

  • DodoTheLaser

    Just thought of something:

    Pat Kingsley to Tom Cruise was what Monique Yingling is to David Miscavige.
    Except Pat is talking about it, while Monique is probably thinking about talking.

    The books this women could write..

    • EnthralledObserver

      Wanted to ask this before… is there a link to where Pat is supposedly ‘talking’… I must have missed that entirely.

      • DodoTheLaser
        • EnthralledObserver

          :) thank you, Dodo!

          • DodoTheLaser

            Sure. She didn’t say much. It is a progress though.

            Imagine if she will write a book, not likely..

            Hope you get the idea though.

            • Santiago Draco

              There’s a huge difference between Tom Cruise and David Miscavige. I personally think Cruise is probably a pretty good person, a bit naive and easily manipulated but not someone worthy of attack, Scientology or not. Sure people love to watch train wrecks (makes them feel better about their own lives) but that doesn’t make it right. I’d love to see Tom wise up and get out of that cult. Not sure it will ever happen but if he IS smart he’ll do it before it melts down which I hope is in the not too distant future. .

    • Ardent

      Hey, Dodo, how long has this Yingling lawyer been selling her soul to DM for? Any idea? Anyone know what town she operates out of? A big NYC firm? Just curious how low and unethical a person can be and for how long. I couldn’t sleep, myself.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations Monique Rathbun!

  • Tim Brown

    Hi,
    LTR, FTP (Long Time Reader, First Time Poster).
    Forgive this long segue, but this Disqus app is pretty tortuous. I couldn’t get it to respond to a poster on Radar online regarding Tony Ortega, so I thought I’d drop it in here. Maybe someone else can manage to respond.

    Anyway, there’s a slightly older story about ex-scientologists accusing David Miscavige of the usual stuff – being violent, vindictive and generally acting in a way unbecoming of a religious leader, let alone a decent human being.

    In the commentary, a poster, by the name of Lifter 1968, chimed in with his views on Tony Ortega – specifically calling him a jobless loser who got fired from the Village Voice, presumably for incompetence. Needless to say, I was stunned, and I felt I had to chip in.

    I have worked in and around the media for 30 years and, like any industry you come across all kinds of reporters. In my opinion, Tony Ortega is one of the best working anywhere. His reporting is comprehensive and laser sharp.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      That guy Lifter1968 is just a douche bag. He just argues for the sake of arguing. He has nothing of value to add to any conversation he is a part of.
      We know how right you are about Tony O.

      • shasha40

        Ditto ! but then again we here are just losers , hanging out on ” the fringes of the internet !” Pretty Damn intelligent losers though ….

    • Baby

      Hi Tim.. Welcome to the Bunker.. Lifter..ugh.. he is the biggest jerk.. As Bury says..He argues just to argue..He has no information relevant to any conversation..

      ugh, ugh.. Tony is absolutely he best! We love him here… again Welcome.

      • Ardent

        Tony! He be good to the Baby, yes? Nice treats? (oh, yeah – I’m not that jackass 1968)…Sorry, Baby. (hi there!) An attack of absurdity hit me like a shovel in the face. Gotta be very grateful to Tony. Tony, if you read this, I really admire you down to your socks. Thanks for so much.

        • Baby

          Ohhh Columbo.. xo Tony is fabulous huh? I was trying to watch a movie but couldn’t find one that hooked me.. Absurdity .. yes.. ha..such is my life lately..

          • Ardent

            why not pick a Hitchcock film? They pretty much rule. Have you seen “Strangers on a Train”? It’ll have you seriously gripping your armchair like it was a roller coaster. Great film! Have fun.

            • Baby

              O love Hitchcock.. I was watching TCM but I had already seen it.. so switched to On Demand Movies..and MEH.. Nothing caught my eye..

              But Hitchcock absolutely one of my favorites.. Strangers on a Train ( Duh?) Absolutely

    • aquaclara

      Welcome, Tim,
      We are all relaxing here on the comfy couch, enjoying our front row seats to this big show with Tony and others! So glad you’re here, and hope we will see you often.

      • Ardent

        Always wanted to tell you I like your avatar name, Aqua. Perhaps because I’m a Pisces? Anyway, Hi!

    • Ardent

      Hi Tim. The nitwit, ‘lifter1968′ is a troll who has been harshly dealt with. However, fear not! Here in the Bunker things are really friendly! You’ll find yourself warmly welcomed, just as I was when I stopped lurking and let my head pop up over the barricades. This is the most polite, respectful and cheerful bunch of folks I have ever been online with. I’m not a joiner by nature, but the Bunker has my complete support and when I can afford to I’ll donate. Welcome aboard, buddy, and enjoy making some cyber-friends! 21st Century isn’t all bad!

  • Tim Brown

    Hi, Disqus trouble again. Coupled with iPad stress. I hear tablets don’t do Disqus well.

    Anyway, I wanted to say, I respect reporters like Mark Ebner and I have enjoyed his appearances on things like LIP TV, but, he can come over a bit tabloid.

    Tony doesn’t. He has what the British call “bottom.” – a solid, professional approach to covering stories. I have yet to see him make an off-the cuff or ill-considered statement that might impact his credibility and give people like Lifter 1968 a genuine opportunity to criticise. That’s a great thing anytime, and really key when the people offering other views are often very fast and loose with the facts.

    Apologies for gushing. Just wanted to set the record a little straighter.

    Good night, bunkerites.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Looks like the Code Red scenario is shaping up nicely against Miscavige and Hamel.

    Gosh, depending on what Linda Hamel reveals when she is deposed, I hope that leads to further depositions of the Private Eyes and the intermediary OSA staffers, possibly Charlie Earle and maybe Kirsten Caetano will be deposed also!

    The lineup of OSA staff who are privy to the PI work against Monique and Marty’s residence, one of them will slip up, there is just too much info.

    Someone is going to have to lie, and keep all their lying in sync, and someone’s gonna bite it and get nailed for perjury for lying ultimately, and it’s going to be someone in OSA, Hamel will have to be shucked out of OSA and out of the Sea Org if she bites the bullet for perjury when she gets deposed.

    That will then damage greatly OSA, and I hope some savvy media or publisher is thinking of how to do a book deal with Linda Hamel.

    “Scientology Spy Master” by Linda Hamel.

    If not Hamel, then Charlie Earle, Kirsten Caetano, they all have a book or TV story ahead if they get out and tell their stories!

    But Hamel’s story would be the best!!!!

    Maybe Linda Hamel should blow and go to DC and walk into the US Justice Dept or FBI Building and do some kind of deal! Just so she also writes or someone gets her story to do a good book on her life!

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      I like how you think, Chuck.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        I’m a silver lining observer, in that Hamel to me, looks like a great future defector!

        Wouldn’t that be hilarious, if 3-5 years from now, Tony’s interviewing Linda for her take on Scientology!

    • SopranoAscends

      Do you think DM is on Red’s Blacklist?

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    “We all laughed at that, and so did the judge,” Jeffrey said.

    Best line!

  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    They should have used the affluenza defense instead of the Pope defense. LOL. Enjoy.

  • Chicagowog

    I wonder if any Texas members of anonymous will show up to protest miscavige the day he is deposed. That would be a riot. Also, It might be a field day for process servers

    • Sanddancer

      Depositions don’t need to be done in a courtroom. A few years ago, my BF was deposed as a witness in a lawsuit happening in New York, and his deposition happened in San Francisco. Judges are rarely in the room for them — objections are simply recorded on the record, and the deposed answers as if they were overruled.

  • Jgg2012

    https://www.dailyjournal.com/cle.cfm?show=CLEDisplayArticle&qVersionID=270&eid=897501&evid=1
    Here is a good article on “alter egos”. Now, do Davey and Co$ have a “unity of interest”? I am not sure–just because he runs everything, is the face of Scientology, Sea Org members must buy him gifts every year, no one can question him, he has no one to remove him or succeed him if he were to die and and he controls every dollar Co$ receives does not mean that their interests are identical. does it?

  • Richie

    Fantastic news. Another brilliant step in the right direction. Congratulations Monique. Well played, Ray Jeffrey. And to you, Davy Boy…life sucks, doesn’t it?

  • Patrick Geinoz

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

  • riotgrrrl

    putin’s face says it all

  • AintMizBahavin

    i knew coming out of the hospital my first stop had to be here. so i could not only catch up on all i missed but i could get my laugh on.. and now i think i may have bust a few of my stitches from the laughing.. but damn it it is well worth it.. i dont know any of you personally but i must say im proud to be a very small part of the circle of bunkerites.. all of you are the greatest.. now im off to finish catching up and busting the rest of my stitches

  • Jon Frost

    I can’t wait to see the clips from the deposition…. Little Captian Davey… in uniform… standing behind a very short podium, COS logos abound… giving his version of Nixon’s famous, “I am not a dictator” speech… If it looks like Napoleon… and quacks like Napoleon…. DM must be Napoleon… or at least a manical, demonic, paranoid, delusional man with a very small penis.

  • Jon Frost

    Is 3D better than 2D? So what’s the scoop about the deadline that ended at 5pm today???