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HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Is The L.A. Cyclist Who Was Nearly Killed in Hit-and-Run a Scientology "Sea Org" Worker?

Damian_KevittOn Sunday February 17, a man named Damian Kevitt, 36, was nearly killed in a gruesome hit-and-run incident that left him with what one doctor called the worst non-fatal injuries he’s ever seen.

Kevitt was riding a bicycle near LA’s Griffith Park when a person driving a van hit him, then dragged him onto the middle of a freeway. Conscientious drivers stopped to protect Damian from getting run over by other cars, but his injuries were terrible: he’s already lost one leg and may lose another. Both of his arms are broken, a shoulder needs replacing, and he was so scraped up, an infection might come at any time that could kill him.

And without health insurance, the costs for his care are going into the millions, his uncle tells us. His uncle also confirmed for us that his nephew is the Damian Kevitt who is listed as a Scientology Sea Org worker in a 2005 document online. We have asked the church for a comment, but we don’t expect a reply. So we’re asking our correspondents to help us find out: Was Damian Kevitt still a Sea Org worker when he was injured, and is that why he has no health insurance when he needs it most?

We spoke yesterday with Dane Evans, Damian’s uncle, who says his nephew is conscious and has even showed a sense of humor about his condition. But his situation is dire. Evans says Kevitt has already had four surgeries and doctors expect that he will face more than a dozen more.

“If he gets an infection, it could kill him,” Evans says.

We told Evans that the name “Damian Kevitt” shows up on a 2005 list of Sea Org workers who were employed at ASHO, the American Saint Hill Organization — part of the “Big Blue” complex on Fountain Avenue that is Scientology’s headquarters in Los Angeles.

Evans confirmed that his nephew did work for the Church of Scientology, but he didn’t know if that was still the case.

“I don’t know if he’s still working for them or not,” Evans says.

We then heard from Lisa Hamilton, a former Sea Org senior official. She tells us that Damian Kevitt was still in the Sea Org when she left the church in 2008 2010, and that he had been in the Sea Org for at least 15 years.

The Sea Organization has been the focus of many of the controversies dogging Scientology in recent years. The church recruits young people — some as young as 6 years old — to join the Sea Org and sign billion-year contracts, and they promise to come back lifetime after lifetime as Scientology’s most fanatical believers.

Sea Org workers put in amazing hours, with 100-hour weeks standard. They grab only a few hours of sleep a night, and get paid only about 40 cents an hour. They live communally, in dormitories, and almost never get any time off. Sea Org workers can go years without seeing their non-Sea Org family members, even if those family members are Scientologists.

Former Sea Org members tell stories not only of long hours, poor food, and zero privacy, but also of harsh punishments and prison details for those considered disobedient. Sea Org members who marry are prohibited from having children, and numerous women who have left the Sea Org say they were forced to have abortions when they became pregnant. They also say they would be compelled to go to free clinics to have the abortions, claiming to be indigent. In the Sea Org, they say, there is no health insurance.

We talked to Marc Headley, a former Sea Org worker who, with his wife Claire, escaped from their jobs at the International Base east of Los Angeles in 2005. We asked Marc if Sea Org workers, despite their incredible dedication, get health insurance from Scientology.

“No. No way,” he says. When Marc was injured at one point, the church filed a worker’s compensation claim, he says. They did the same when his wife Claire broke her leg.

“She had a motorcycle accident and broke her tibia and fibula and nearly lost her foot. The security workers at the base crammed her into a Honda Civic and took her to the hospital. The emergency workers were livid that they brought her like that.”

Headley says that there are numerous cases of Sea Org workers simply being dumped by the church when they could no longer keep up with the 100-hour weeks at their jobs.

“If you mess up, they drop you completely. Got hit by a car? See ya, wouldn’t want to be ya. That’s the Sea Org overriding policy,” he says.

Several former Sea Org executives pointed out to us that the only time Sea Org workers can get a little time to themselves is a few hours on Sunday mornings.

Damian Kevitt was run over while on his bicycle at about 11:35 on a Sunday morning. And he was reportedly riding with his wife Grace, who fortunately was not involved in the incident.

We’re checking with our sources inside the church who may be able to tell us if Damian was still on staff at ASHO or at some other Sea Org post when he was injured.

We’ve also sent a message to Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw, asking her if the church plans to have any involvement in Kevitt’s recovery or in helping defray his costs. We’ll let you know if she gets back to us.

UPDATE: Some Scientologists have started an online fund for Damian at a website which features a photograph showing him in his Sea Org uniform; the photo looks contemporary. So far, his fellow church members have raised $520.00. (Since we wrote that, the photo has been changed to one that doesn’t show Damian’s Sea Org outfit. However, he’s still standing in front of Big Blue, the Scientology complex, in the new photo.)

2nd UPDATE: We’ve now heard from two independent sources inside the Church of Scientology who tell us that Damian Kevitt was still a Sea Org worker when he was injured on February 17. An online posting shows that he signed the SO contract at 18, which means he’s been in the Sea Org for 18 years.

 
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GRETA VAN SUSTEREN’S HUSBAND FIGHTING CANCER THE NON-SCIENTOLOGY WAY

Salute To FOX News Channel's Brit HumeGreta Van Susteren’s husband John Coale is fighting cancer the way most folks of means probably would: with every possible advantage afforded by modern medicine.

As Van Susteren revealed yesterday, Coale was diagnosed in December, and since then has undergone multiple surgeries as well as radiation treatment. She’s been at his bedside every day, and she says his cancer is curable.

We wish Mr. Coale the best, and we feel for Van Susteren as they go through this ordeal.

It’s interesting, however, to note that these two high-level Scientologists are apparently not trying to “handle” this illness by relying only on auditing and assists.

Van Susteren is a loyal church member, but it’s been pointed out that her own sister is a major part of the “evil psych” community that Scientology loathes. Coale, meanwhile, is a political power player, and at one time was trying to create FLAGG PAC, a political action committee that would raise funds to help Scientology lobby Washington. More recently, he was advising Sarah Palin on her political career.

Coale has reportedly topped out at OT VIII, meaning that he’s reached the highest level of Scientology spiritual enlightenment, and he should have the ability to manipulate matter and energy solely with the power of his mind. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard also claimed that “Operating Thetans” would be impervious to disease. But as we see time and again, these promised abilities turn out to be as real as you would expect them to be. At least, in this case, Van Susteren and Coale have enough sense to rely on more tangible strategies to fight disease.

For other Scientologists, that isn’t always the case.

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Posted by Tony Ortega on March 1, 2013 at 14:00

 

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  • Chocolate Velvet

    My thoughts are with Damian Kevitt and his wife and family. What awful injuries, and no health insurance. A nightmare!

    When I posted the link about John Coale yesterday, I did not realize this was new information. All criticism aside, I am glad he’s getting the treatment he needs, and I hope he recovers fully. I also hope other scilons take this as a lesson — don’t rely on the “tech” when you have cancer!

  • Sherbet

    Taking the high road here. I’m sure we all wish healing for these two people. Snarking should be kept to a minimum.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Who knew we had a snark sheriff? If it were an elected position, I’d have voted for you, Sherbet..

      • sugarplumfairy

        MidwestMom would be good too.. But she’s on holiday.. I miss her..

        • Sherbet

          Dang! Me, too! I hope she stops by once in awhile to lurk.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Ditto ya’lls sentiment.

            • ParticleMom

              She is missed.

        • Captain Howdy

          So when the hell does Lent end ? Fingers crossed if that’s the cause.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Easter is march 31.. So hopefully she’ll be back in time for AberrApril.. Ok, sorry.. Thought I’d give it a go, but that sucked..

            • blissfulldreams

              Awepril?

            • sugarplumfairy

              EnturbulApril?

            • Captain Howdy

              Marchingness ?

            • sugarplumfairy

              I vote for awepril.. If its a reeeeally bad month for co$, shock & awepril..

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I kinda liked it.

            • http://twitter.com/jonhendry Jonathan W. Hendry

              Enthetapril?

              Vistapril?

            • sugarplumfairy

              Lol.. Yay!

          • q-bird

            ends @ Easter Cap. Lent = the 40 days & 40 nights previous to the resurrection – the devout give up something they love to emulate what JC went thru in the wilderness. I myself am very much hoping that is the reason for MWM’s absenteeism.

          • Sherbet

            Aw, Howdy, you’ve got a soft spot for kindly Republican Catholics, huh? You roll with the anarchic metalheads, but inside you’re just a big ol’ marshmallow.

            • Captain Howdy

              metal heads ? Eee gads sherbet, next thing you’ll be comparing me to tickle me emo’s and the juggaloes..

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I just flipping roared at that one!!!

            • Sherbet

              Sorry, punk.

        • Poison Ivy

          I miss her too. :-(

      • Sherbet

        There was no election. It was a coup d’etat, and I took over. Nah, not really. I’m as snarky as the next Bunkee, but Damian’s story made me sad.

        • sugarplumfairy

          It made me sad too.. Thats a horribly traumatic thing to happen to anyone, let alone someone who is only valuable to the people he values most as long as he can function physically well enough to continue as their slave.. He is in for a major life change.. I hope he has family..

          And i love your snark..

          • BuryTheNuts2

            You …sadly….summed up his situation very, very well.

          • blissfulldreams

            i hope he has a loving family one who wont disconnect from him because “he brought it on himself”

          • http://twitter.com/jonhendry Jonathan W. Hendry

            ” I hope he has family..”

            Family *not* in the cult.

        • blissfulldreams

          yeah but who sheriff’s sherbet when he’s snarky?

          • Sherbet

            But that’s when I’m at my funniest! Still, you’d better keep an eye on me, blissfull, just in case I go too far. (BTW, he’s a she.)

            • blissfulldreams

              thanks for the offer but i think i will leave that to those better equipped :)

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

              Doesn’t derek have the best equipment?

            • blissfulldreams

              my mind automatically went with a dirty joke about Derek and equipment :) sorry Derek
              so i’m going to be a good girl and walk away whistling

    • http://www.facebook.com/ToryMagoo44 Tory Christman

      Sherbet…taking the high road would be making sure $cientology helped their own.

      “Headley says that there are numerous cases of Sea Org workers simply
      being dumped by the church when they could no longer keep up with the
      100-hour weeks at their jobs.

      “If you mess up, they drop you completely. Got hit by a car? See ya,
      wouldn’t want to be ya. That’s the Sea Org overriding policy,” he says.
      _______________

      Last year my Ex-husband best friends left awhile ago and told me:

      He fell in a 4 foot HOLE in $cientology’s Pasadena “Ideal Org”;

      (This was pre-their official opening—they had some event and he was helping out)

      From this fall in their building….He ripped off one of his shoulders.

      His friends told me he’d recently–before this–donated
      $100,000 to the “church”. (above the $200,000 we’d given them that was our
      “Inheritance” which went right into $cientology, in the 90′s).
      No one helped him. Scientology said they
      had not insured the building yet (as it was pre-the opening/still BS, imnsho) so they
      would not help him get the Physical Therapy he needed.

      His friends also told me: “No one came to see him. They got everyone to disconnect”.
      I asked why, as that seemed SO cold. They said they thought the “church” was afraid
      one of his Scio friends would suggest he sue them for damages.

      Sick………….and true. Don’t get me started on MY story. This stuff is repulsive, criminal
      really. Sherbet: The higher road? Good wishes to you. Tory/Magoo

      • Sherbet

        Thanks for responding, Tory. I’m honored to be speaking to you! You’re a one-woman advertisement for “There’s a Great Life After Scientology.” Let me clarify my comment above: By taking the high road, I meant I hoped nobody on the blog would say something crude about Damian himself, you know, something like “serves him right,” since he’s a die-hard SO member. When someone is hurt, decency and compassion should prevail, and I meant that decency should come from people here on the blog. BUT, as for decency and compassion coming from cos, although I’m a never-in, I know by now how cold the cos can be, and even how individual scns can be indifferent and cruel to even their own families. I’m not surprised at your stories, nor at Damien’s unfolding story, where we are surmising that cos won’t help him out one bit. It seems a person is of value to cos only if cos can wring some work or money out of him/her. If you’re disabled, emotionally down-and-out, or broke, the cos doesn’t even know your name.

      • Exterrier

        Tory, as someone who I think was “in” at the time the following occurred, maybe you can confirm this:

        A friend of mine who was and is still a dedicated member told me that she knew of yellow shirt volunteer “ministers” who had been sent by the “church” to Ground Zero during 911, who subsequently became quite ill, yet were not helped in the least by the church. I asked if they had even been offered the purification sweat lodge treatment by the church, (which they and Tom Cruise were noisily touting as the solution for the sick firemen first responders), and she said she was quite disappointed, but no, not even that was done. She said some of these people died. Know anything about this, anyone?

  • jensting

    That’s not good. I hope both of them make it.

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Good luck to both of them. And I am damn glad they are both in the care of medical professionals.

  • Observer

    And Damian won’t get so much as a get-well card from the “church” he has so slavishly served. Hoping and praying this is a wake-up call to him and his wife. There’s a much better life waiting for them outside.

    As for John Coale, I truly hope he beats his cancer, but I have to wonder why he’s still a Scientologist when this terrible situation is proof positive that the “tech” doesn’t work and that he has achieved no mastery whatsoever over MEST at OTVIII. Here’s hoping the light bulb will go on for him.

  • dbloch7986

    I hope that both of them get better. In Damian’s case, if he was in the Sea Org, they will probably offload him as soon as they get the chance. Scientology churches are not wheelchair accessible and his condition will be seen as a something that hinders the Sea Org’s objective as a whole. There is no time nor place for disabled individuals in the Sea Org. It would be interesting to see if the church does anything to help this dedicated soldier or if they dump him like the rest of us and just leave us to our own devices with out an ounce of sympathy or compassion.

    I am glad that Greta’s husband is getting proper treatment. It’s unfortunate that other Scientologists are discouraged. I suppose that having someone in the spotlight, who is also a high level Scientologist, die of cancer without receiving proper treatment would not bode well in the PR arena for the Church. It also appears that he has been receiving regular medical check-ups which allowed the cancer to be spotted in the first place; failure to do so is the typical reason that Scientologists die of treatable illnesses.

    • Anon Nom Nom

      I’ve notices that as well. I strongly suspect it’s just confirmation bias, but it does seem like an unusually high number get cancer. If it is higher than the normal rate, then I’d love to hear theories on what is causing it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaPandora Victoria Pandora

        I have always wished there could be a story like this. Why is it when I was on the “inside” I lost so many young friends to cancer, especially after they hit OT3? Now I am in the “wog” world, in my 50′s yeah sure people get cancer, but they don’t just fall over dead from it in a matter of months and the incidence is much lower? I might have some off the rails theory, but are they running their own cellular structures on OT3 and calling it body thetans? Or is it just that they are (even the public scns.) overworked and stressed out from debt?

        • Poison Ivy

          They are repressing their honest feelings. That alone can cause disease or at the very least, psychosomatic symptoms.

        • jensting

          A few ex-members are concinced that the current of the e-meter poses a health risk. A lot of others are entirely unconvinced. What is certain is that smoking is no stranger to the lives of clams. It must also be stressful to run around pretending to be millions and millions of ghosts of dead space aliens, and that stress might be the kind that reduces resistance to cancer. All slightly difficult to get a solid handle on (not least because accurate long term studies are needed in the Real World of Wog medicine).

          What’s for sure is that breathing and handling varying types of asbestos as a child is waaay bad for you, and that the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology has a track record of getting children to do that.

      • Captain Howdy

        Hubbard told them smoking prevents cancer.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        24/7 stress/ normal med checkups with scientology voodoo docs and chiropractors, fear of tons of extra auditing in their way to Eternity Levels, humiliation and poss. temporary disconnect from peer group, getting fired or temp. laid off all add up to many not getting diagnosed until late stages. Also, many scientology businesses that I have known about never paid health insurance benefits. The alternative doctors also give out misleading or outright false information which they may or may not believe themselves. But this is another reason some ignore symptoms.

    • blissfulldreams

      [Scientology churches are not wheelchair accessible]
      is there no disability act in usa?

      uk
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability_Discrimination_Act_1995

      • 1subgenius

        I’ve been too lazy to research this issue, which I’ve been bugged by for a while.
        There may be a religious exemption.
        Also since they solicit only the “able” (another issue which sticks in my craw), there’s another thing.

        • blissfulldreams

          well that sucks

          • 1subgenius

            Indeed.

        • dbloch7986

          Making the able more able!

          • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

            Yeah- if you really wanna do Scientology you;ll get out of the damn wheelchair and walk.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I actually knew a Scientology FSM in the 80′s who was paralyzed from the waist down and in a wheel chair. I assumed he had been in an accident.

              I think I assumed that just on the hunch that the Org made sure they got his settlement money…which he must of had or why would he have been there at all.

      • Trustmeonthis

        There is; however it may be one of the many laws that “churches” get to ignore.
        Damned IRS.

        • blissfulldreams

          but does anyone know that for a fact has it been proven or is that an assumption?

          • Captain Howdy

            Trying to keep tract of and catalog all the crap that organized religion gets away with in the USA is like trying to do a live head count at a mouse stampede,

            • blissfulldreams

              wow

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Yes, It is a fact that they (churches) are exempt from the ADA requirements.

            • blissfulldreams

              ffs

            • Still_On_Your_Side

              Religious entities are exempt

            • Poison Ivy

              That seems sort of crazy. I mean, what on earth is it about religious institutions that should exempt them from ADA standards? Unless they have a specific “no disabled” edict among their accepted scriptures….

            • Still_On_Your_Side

              I know, it is unfair because a church is a place of public accomodation and it invites the public in. This is one of those church vs state things. A church employee is covered by the ADA, and the CoS gets around that by having only “volunteers”

            • blissfulldreams

              but dont the sea org sign that billion yr bullshit and get paid a wage making them an employee arnt they the clergy of scn

            • Still_On_Your_Side

              Not according to the courts

      • richelieu jr

        If God wanted cripples to come to church he would have given them pogo-chairs instead of wheel-chairs to get in.

        • blissfulldreams

          you would think that the way scn ensnare everyone else in their web of deceit that they would of done disability access captive audience and all that

    • Sidney18511

      Derek, when you get a chance check out Marty’s comments section from today’s post. I have a feeling that a poster is referring to you. It’s about the 17th comment down and the posters name is Simple. See what you think.

      • dbloch7986

        Thanks. It’s like they think I’m just a stupid kid who doesn’t know what I am talking about.

        His Comment: “My observation of quite a few Scientologists over the last few years is that an awful lot of them appear to have massive quantities of BPC, presumably due to all the out tech on their cases (which includes massive amounts of sec checking). Communications such as this one you received seem to me to be an affort to “push” the BPC off on to someone else, or as you said “to assign responsibility for whatever it is they are suffering upon another”.

        Fascinating the way this blame game works. If you complain to a RCS staff member about any injustice, you are likely to be told that you “pulled it in”, in spite of this being on Ron’s list of famous justifiers. One young man who posts about his disastrous SO experience actually thinks that this is a Scientology “belief”, that anything bad that happens to you is “your fault”.

        It’s all about as far from anything LRH taught us as you can get.”

        My Reply: “Your comment is awaiting moderation.

        How can you say that though? The overt-motivator sequence itself shows that if something bad happens to you then you have to have done something bad, i.e. you deserved it. “Taking responsibility”, “Making things go right”, “you pulled it in”, “You are solely responsible for your place in life”. The bit about “taking responsibility for a man that died in some other part of the world.” In Scientology you must be responsible for everything.

        This means that I am responsible that my parents got involved in Scientology. I am responsible for signing my Sea Org contract at 15 years old, an age where you don’t know a damn thing about how the world works, because I was driven to the brink of insanity by my recruiters. I am responsible for my family disconnecting from me because I spoke out about perceived injustices and because apparently I am denied my freedom of speech rights as long as I am involved in Scientology.

        The “everything is your fault” idea is used in reg cycles, recruitment cycles, donation cycles to the point that it breaks people down and makes them give in because they are wrong for not wanting to donate their money or volunteer their time.

        Just like when I posted my original story online I was told that I am contributing to the downfall of Scientology because I dared to open my big mouth to anyone but a Scientologist.

        You are all here because you disagree with the way the church handles things. I disagree with the sentiments of Scientology as a whole because of they way they were used against me and my family and people around me time and time again.

        The Church of Scientology uses shame and guilt to leverage people into submission. Even if Scientology supposedly doesn’t encourage that, the interpretations of it by the self-acclaimed authority on all things Scientology does encourage it.”

        • Sherbet

          “Just like when I posted my original story online I was told that I am contributing to the downfall of Scientology…” Funny how one’s viewpoint makes all the difference. Your critics think that’s a fault of yours, hastening the downfall of Scientology, and the rest of us are applauding you and throwing confetti.

          • dbloch7986

            That was the church and members, et al. that said that. Telling me that some how my little anonymous story online was destroying the church of scientology and now I was their enemy because this is their religion and fuck me for speaking out about injustices I suffered. I remember that conversation well.

            • blissfulldreams

              *hug*db fuck em you scream shout and let every injustice out i like reading your blog not the stuff that happened but that your doing it

            • dbloch7986

              Thanks man. Morbid curiosity is something all humans suffer from

            • blissfulldreams

              not so much the morbid curiosity more like giving silent support i thought that blogs have a counter or something that let you know when you had visitors

            • dbloch7986

              Yes i do! I recently topped 10,000 visits in the history of my blog. I get about 500 visits per post or so. Thank you so much!

            • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

              *o/* *o/* *o/* *o/* *o/* cheer line for 10000 visits

            • Poison Ivy

              xox Derek Fan Club xox

            • blissfulldreams

              No thank you db without people like you we would not be here

            • Tomato Thetan

              Congratulations, Derek!

            • Sherbet

              I’m glad you didn’t fall for it, or, at least eventually realized they were wrong and manipulative.

            • dbloch7986

              When I go to Marty’s blog I see the same arrogant, uncaring, cold attitude that people in the church had. Some things just don’t change.

            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

              Most narcissists are very cold people. Remember that.

            • dbloch7986

              I have not forgotten. No responses to my comment yet either. It did make it on the site however.

            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

              I’ll say this again because I know that I would want to read this…..Derek, thank you for sharing your story with us. Your courage, honesty, and your story are needed elements to this fight and definitely wanted here. I know that sometimes the critics would rather get on with their lives than keep on telling their stories and making videos. Sometimes you may doubt that you are making a difference. The fact that you (and others, like Tory Christman) keep plugging at it ensures that others can learn from you. Thank you for what you do and thank you for being here with us.

            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

              I was doing the white-boy overbite and air fist pumps reading your comment. I hope it gets past the Marty-ego screening test.

              I’d love to know the name of who told you these things but I understand it if you want to not broadcast that fact. That person needs a good ole fashioned public shaming.

            • richelieu jr

              God Derek, wouldn’t it be great if they’d been right? Your little posting just pushed the walls out and Davey’s roof caved right in on his little pointy head?

          • Poison Ivy

            So true, Sherbert! For the Bunkerites, anything that “contributes to the downfall of Scientology” is cause for confetti and popcorn.

        • Captain Howdy

          Every time I hear about this huge schism taking place in Indieville I go and read the comments and I can barely find an anti-Marty comment.I think at best he’s really over exaggerating this “mutiny” and at worse it’s some kind of ole school OSA ploy.

          • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

            The more fundamental indies (e.g. Jim Logan, Steve hall) have left the building Capn. They are all over at Steve Hall’s website and another facebook group. Major lulz to be had over at ESMB over that little melt down.

            • Captain Howdy

              Every time i read the comments on Marty’s blog this song pops into my head. I wonder why ?
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR6w6_x9CXA

            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

              I forgot about that song. Fitting.

        • aquaclara

          Brilliant response, Derek. The critics/whiners have absolutely no idea who they are dealing with when they tangle with you as well as everyone here on the Bunker. Your comment, “I disagree with the sentiments of Scientology as a whole because of the way they were used against me and my family…” Is the absolute truth. Most human beings would say that the abuse you suffered as a child and young adult was more than someone should have to endure.
          For those accusing you of contributing to the downfall of Scientology, well…that’s a well-placed compliment after all. Brick by brick, down it shall come!

  • SciWatcher

    Does it seem to anyone else that a disproportionate number of scis (or ex-scis) get cancer? I’m not trying to insinuate anything here, it just seems that there have been quite a few cases.

    • Chocolate Velvet

      Yeah, people have noticed. Skippress, when he used to post here, speculated the e-meter might be at fault. Repeatedly exposing the body to low-level electric current. I don’t have a clue if there’s any validity to that. What we don’t know about cancer — a primarily post-industrial disease — would fill volumes.

      • Patty Moher

        I don’t believe there’s any science that will confirm that the emeter causes cancer. However, heavy stress, poor diet, and sleep deprivation have been shown to have a connection.

        • Poison Ivy

          Yes, all of the above would be plenty of cancer-risk factors whether there was an emeter or not. Remember, there is a lot of stress on your average deeply-in clam no matter what, because unless he/she grew up in the cult, there has to be some cognitive dissonance that he or she is using reservoirs of denial to keep under the surface, every single day.

          • Gus_Cox

            All that coupled with the typical Clam attitude of, “Well, I just won’t pull anything in.” Many of those Scientologists who die of cancer, I suspect, only went to an actual medical doctor (an MD, not an ND or DC or whatever the fuck other witch doctors Scios tend to favor) once the symptoms got too severe to ignore. Most people who work and make a few bucks (as do a lot of public Scios), once they hit 40 at least, tend to get an annual physical as I do. These kinds of things are more likely to spotted early while they are still treatable.

      • blissfulldreams

        skippress might be right about that but until the day someone does some testing on know one will know the truth

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife

        http://www.alchemist.co/multirife.htm

        http://www.alchemist.co/rife%20osci%20.htm

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Those are some interesting links!

          • blissfulldreams

            i was watching the Bosnian pyramid Dr SAM from the links i sent the other day when he was talking about Dr royal rife and showed a multi zapper so i went down the rabbit hole again and this is some of the stuff i found

        • SciWatcher

          Wow, interesting, thank you for the links!

      • SciWatcher

        Interesting, I hadn’t considered the e-meter.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Interesting to see the difference in available health care for public scientologists vs. sea org members..

    • blissfulldreams

      i’m sitting here thinking thank fuke for the NHS and i normally complain about it

      • richelieu jr

        Believe me the NHS is so much better than the US system it is incredible (and yes, I know that’s saying something!)

        Here in France I have to suffer under the yoke of socialized medicine, waiting only a few days for MRIs, choosing my own doctors, still able to buy private insurance.. It is indeed a nightmare.. Thank god for the Van Susterens and Palins of the world who woke you guys up to the terrible, terrible dangers…

  • SS

    Mr. Kevitt will be viewed, of course, as having “pulled this in” and will henceforth be a pariah to his former colleagues. They’re probably already working on prying his wife away. Got to feel some sympathy for this guy.

    • Ze Moo

      The CO$ will want to know if any money is coming Damians way. Between any possible insurance settlement and SSI, there are a few bucks to steal. I mean have donated…….

      • Unex Skcus

        The dwarfenführer (love that, ZM) will demand the list of donors no doubt… if they have spare cash left for Damian, they can afford to fund the oiliness table.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Let’s see if scientology foots the bill, which they should, if indeed he is still a member. Best of luck to him, hope he makes it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaPandora Victoria Pandora

    Oh I am terribly worried about Damien. I wonder if us es pees could send him something to cheer him up? If his uncle doesn’t even know if he is still SO, then that sorta indicates he is, because you know… No time for family. It a different reality the most ethical people on the planet would be gathered at his bedside doing everything possible. He surely has close friends within the org, they can probably try to hitch a ride to the hospital for 20 minutes on a Sunday, IF their stats are up.Grrrr.

    • Gus_Cox

      Good idea. I’m hesitant to send money b/c the fucking regges will take it, but sending something nice to his hospital room to brighten it up would certainly help his morale better than anything that fucking cult would do.

  • subsilentio

    Coale and van Susteren have profited for years from the very cult system that has dumped their Kevitt like a piece of garbage. As wealthy cult shills, hey enjoy an entirely different set of rules than the people whose misery they profit from.

    Perhaps I am not a great person, but I do not have a speck of sympathy for these two loathsome Ponzi scammers, who profited from Reed Slatkin’s similar life-destroying Ponzi scam (Reed gets out this July), before the court forced them to give the money back.

    • 1subgenius

      “Bhopal Coale”

      In 1984 he acquired the nickname “Bhopal Coale” by being the first lawyer to hop on a plane to India to sign up gas-leak victims who couldn’t even read their retainer documents.

      American Lawyer magazine called him “a symbol for everything wrong with the plaintiff’s bar.” In 1987 the same magazine awarded Coale its Most Frivolous Suit Award: He had sued his tailor, on the grounds that the sub-par work on his shirts had subjected him to “public humiliation . . . severe emotional distress, and embarrassment.” The West Virginia Bar tried to disbar both John Coale and Greta Van Susteren for their allegedly unethical behavior in soliciting the families of coal-mine accident victims, among others. Coale’s repeated unapologetic defenses of his professional practices are true to form: “Everything I’ve done is permissible under the First Amendment.”

      http://old.nationalreview.com/flashback/flashback-goldberg010302.shtml

      • Captain Howdy

        Those two are even worse than I expected.

        Good luck to Damian and good luck to Damian’s family getting any money out of D.M or the rest of the clams.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Inferior tailoring on a shirt would cause any OT, “public humiliation . . . severe emotional distress, and embarrassment.”

        Imagine meeting COB on stage to receive your IAS Patron Colitis Trophy only to have COB see shoddy stitch work on your $900 custom made Egyptian cotton shirt.

        Not only would you be sent to Ethics for gross Out Tailoring, but you would have to donate at least $500,000 to make up for the damage you did to the group with your sloppy tailoring!

        We in RTC only accept two things and those are perfection and cash. Everything else is an overt product for which you will be severely disciplined if not beaten out back behind the Org away from cameras.

    • Unex Skcus

      “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

      George Orwell, Animal Farm

      • N. Graham

        2 legs good, 4 legs BETTER!

        • richelieu jr

          2 legs good, get nose job, move to FOX, Better!

  • sugarplumfairy

    He wasn’t blowing, was he? Remember how thy chased Marc..

    • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

      That’s what came to mind for me as well. It sure as hell doesn’t seem like your run of the mill “hit-and-run.”

      • Snuzey

        yes and me. I just thought of Marc Headley too. I dont know if its a coincidence but there is a Damian Dewitt who writes on this board… might not be anything….

        • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

          Even if it’s not, it speaks volumes about what kind of organization this is that our thoughts even went there.

          (Or I watched entirely too many soaps growing up. *g*)

    • Trustmeonthis

      This was my first thought/fear as well. In any case, how awful.

  • montananut

    so mr coale is a public celebrity Ot 8, don’t tell me they are going to tell HIM he pulled it in, and if he has cancer it’s either his fault or he is connected to an evil SP.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bradgreenwood Bradley Greenwood

    I’m watching the weather channel on the web to announce Pouw’s response. The header will be: “Hell Freezes Over!”.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Mother doesn’t mention any disconnection. Is she a scientologist?

    “My son went onto the windshield and the hood,” Kevitt’s mother told ABC. “When the guy sped up, he was knocked underneath the van and his body was dragged almost a quarter of a mile onto the freeway.

    “Thank goodness he was wearing a helmet or he’d be dead today,” she said. “Even with a helmet, he’s lucky to be alive.”

  • sugarplumfairy

    I’ll wait to donate to whatever fund the family sets up.. I know full well, if co$ is collecting it, Damien won’t see a penny..

    Look at all the Feninger websites set up by his co$ handlers for soliciting purposes.. and yet Mr. Feninger doesn’t have money for food and heat..

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=661239103 Mimi Armagh Parrow

      I would bet WOGS and “evil” Anonymous would donate far more towards this young man.

      • wannabeclear

        Well, us WOGS and Anonymous and bitter apostates and disaffected and disgraced former members donated $50,000 to Claire and Mark after the Co$ tried to crush them under court costs…

        • Sherbet

          I thought it would be interesting and helpful at the same time if lots of us donated to Damian’s fund and signed the contributions: “Non-scientologist,” just to show cos that non-scns have compassion. However, how many of us really want to expose our email addresses or credit card numbers to anything connected with cos? Sad to say, I admit I’m too cowardly to do so.

          • wannabeclear

            Also, I wouldn’t trust that money given to the $cientologists would actually get to him in a way it was needed. They’d probably pay for more “services” for him.

  • SP ‘Onage

    The minivan was described as possibly an older gray Toyota Sienna, and having a “For sale” sign with the partial phone number of (213) XXX-0776 and faded Spanish-language lettering posted on the rear window.

    Mother of cyclist who lost leg in hit-and-run pleads for help

    Nice photo of Damian on this site. Actually it’s the best coverage of him.

    http://www.glendalenewspress.com/news/tn-gnp-0226-mother-of-cyclist-who-lost-leg-in-hitandrun-pleads-for-help,0,1518588.story

    .

    • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

      The article says that Damian is a counselor. That sounds Sea Org speak for Auditor.

      • SP ‘Onage

        That’s what I was thinking. She didn’t want to mention scientology auditor, I guess?

        • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

          Can’t imagine why.

          • SP ‘Onage

            LOL! I found this possibility Interesting…Photo of Damian Kevitt, who was struck by a hit and run driver while riding his bicycle. (Courtesy of Michele Kirkland / February 27, 2013)

            I wonder if this is her? Is that the mother’s name?

            Michelle Kirkland – Scientology Service Completions

            http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/m/michelle-kirkland.html

            .

            • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

              I have no idea how common the last name is, but given the dwindling numbers of Scientologist, it wouldn’t surprise me.

        • wannabeclear

          I’m guessing they are afraid people wouldn’t be as sympathetic if they knew he was part of that wacky religion. So, so, so sad.

    • 1subgenius

      They will get ‘em.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=661239103 Mimi Armagh Parrow

    It’s sad and appalling that Ann who has devoted and sacrificed his life and livelihood to a psuedo church—working like a slave—has ZERO medical insurance. Most ethical people on the planet,eh?

  • http://twitter.com/sandyshores50 Sunny Sands

    In general, I wonder if Sci discourages the SO from using free clinics , or even Medcaid when they need it because of bad publicity. Some time ago there was a lot of bad publicity in Clearwater because the SO was crushing the public health system.

  • 1subgenius

    I’d be interested to hear from Marc what happened to the proceeds of the comp claim.
    When I saw this story, my first thought is that the cult will be quite interested in the proceeds of the bicyclists lawsuit. I’ll bet its a pretty common scenario.
    There was the one (Fla. ?) where the widow had given the proceeds to the cult, and it was eventually returned by order of a court, because the benefits were supposed to go to the children.

    • http://twitter.com/sandyshores50 Sunny Sands

      Proceeds of a lawsuit?They sped off and there was a Spanish sign in the window.

      • 1subgenius

        There are multiple avenues of recovery.
        I can guarantee they will be pursued.

        • SP ‘Onage

          Yup, they can always reg their 8 million members. It’ll be paid off in no time.

  • 1subgenius

    “Bhopal Coale”

    • Poison Ivy

      Whoa. I never thought Greta was that bad. Live and learn. “Scientology (and Scientologists): Always worse than you think.”

      • Gus_Cox

        Yeah, Coale is a real piece of shit.

  • LongNeckGoose

    I see that they have raised a whopping $520 for him so far. Who will pay the rest of the millions of dollars he will need? You and me, in one form or another.

    • SP ‘Onage

      $520? Well, that means the scilon celebrities sure haven’t kicked in a donation.

      • Captain Howdy

        Yea, because everybody knows Tom Cruise is a big spender.

        • SP ‘Onage

          Bawhahahahaha! Where was he when the accident happen? Just proves scientologist’s are not the only ones who can save a person at a scene of a car accident. There goes his credibility.

          • wannabeclear

            No, no, no! Tom Cruise speaks the truth! $cientologists are the only ones who can help, therefore whoever stopped must have been one. Also, probably the person who hit him was one. The world is full of them, don’t you know? There are MILLIONS! Just ask the tiny tyrant. Millions and Millions of new members each day! That’s what they need all those new buildings for. And the proof is, they are bursting at the seams with people coming in and out. There’s barely any room inside those ideal orgs for all the people clamoring to get in.

            The most amazing thing is that there are people who actually believe this shit.

            • SP ‘Onage

              Heh!

              Didn’t one of their ads claim, every 4 seconds someone becomes a scientologist or something like that? 1 thousand elephants, 2 thousand elephants, 3 thousand elephants, 4 thousand elephants. Woo hoo! Someone just became a scientologist!

            • Sherbet

              And 24 left.

            • SP ‘Onage

              Ha! You busted my gut! :D

            • wannabeclear

              And 10 more people just woke up and ran away…

        • 1subgenius

          Too bad he wasn’t on the scene. He could have, you know, helped.

          • richelieu jr

            Whenever there’s a heart attack ina theatre these days they call out “Is there a Scientologist in the house? Oh, where oh where is Tom Cruise when you need him?”

            The scene: AN operating room. A patient lie sinert on the table. THe NURSES cover he FACE with a white BLANKET.

            The SURGEON wipes his hands on his smock.

            NURSE
            Is… is that it?

            DOCTOR
            Yes, dammit!

            NURSE
            If only Tom Cruise had been here! He’s the only one that could have helped!

            DOCTOR
            You think that I don’t know that, woman?
            Give the man a break! He can’t be everywhere at once!

            The is a sudden WHOOSH and they look at the WINDOW. Could it be…?

            YES! Their FACES light up!

            It is a 500 DOLLAR CHEQUE from Mr Cruise’s publicist! Nearly in the nick of time!

            VOICEOVER
            It’s all in a day’s work for….
            OPERATING THETAN VIII!

        • sugarplumfairy
    • Unex Skcus

      Brings to mind the fund started to help the Headleys a while back – it was quickly very successful. What a difference; compassion is certainly not endorsed by Co$ and it’s members.

    • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

      Coming from a country with universal healthcare I am sickened that anyone needs to raise millions to receive treatment after this kind of incident.

      • richelieu jr

        When I tell my friends here in Paris about this ind of stuff they think I am making it up.

  • aquaclara

    Thank you for sharing Damian’s story, Tony. This is terribly sad. I keep thinking that cycling might have been his breath of fresh air, away from all the stress of the Sea Org. Riding with the wind, not a care in the world, leaving all the other stuff behind him on a bright Sunday morning. Just he and his wife. So lovely. The times you treasure, those special moments with your family. And then, it all fell apart.
    I hope the person who was driving has the guts to turn him or herself in.
    I appreciate your interviews with the family and coverage of this story. By speaking with you, they’ve added many, many people who are now praying for his recovery. Not to knock that old-time Sci religion at a time like this, but e-meters are of no use here. I’ll stick with prayers – which have in fact been known to work miracles.
    May God bless Damian and his family, and best wishes for his recovery. Please keep us updated as you learn more.

    • Ze Moo

      California law requires auto insurance or a personal bond to operate a car. Hopefully the police will catch the hit and run driver. It is unlikely the driver has coverage that will completely pay for Damians medical bills, look for Medicaid to be paying this bill. He will likely be disabled and thus eligible for SSI, but not for Social Security Disability, you have to pay for that.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

        If the van driver’s identity is found and held liable, then the state’s low income health care system (Medi-Cal) would try to recover costs. If the driver is located and is insured then this gives Mr. Kevitt someone to sue for future medical costs. That’s if the driver has insurance and/or assets. If not…..well then we are back to the Medi-Cal and/or other government programs.

        I really wish everyone here understood that Mr. Kevitt isn’t without programs to help him. The programs may not cover much, but California helps out people in his situation in more ways than people know.

      • Gus_Cox

        I have what is considered very good liability insurance, and its cap is $300,000 per person, $500K per incident. I also have a $1M Umbrella. Which probably wouldn’t cover all the damages sustained here, but it would have given a very nice start.

        Most of the poor/undocumented/irresponsible in this area only have the minimum liability required by law, which is $15,000 per person. That’s like nothing. I was in a collision once and and the first day in the Trauma Center was $15K (my own insurance covered, and then collected from the truck driver’s commercial policy).

        A hit-and-run driver is almost certainly not insured. They hit someone, think “Oh, Fuck!” and try to get the hell outta there. That’s pretty much the hit-and-run scenario in LA. Either that, or the driver was intoxicated and knew it. Or both.

        There are a lot of uninsured/underinsured/unlicensed/intoxicated drivers in LA. It’s so ridiculous that the rest of us have to buy extra coverage (Un/Underinsured Motorist, with separate limits for property damage and bodily injury – UMPD and UMBI it’s called) to protect ourselves from them, and it’s expensive. We basically pay for their insurance as well as our own.

        It goddamn pisses me off, that that fucking “church” doesn’t provide insurance to their “volunteers.” I mean fuck, I’m not rich, but I’m employed, and if I were in this guy’s place my insurance would easily cover a million in medical costs. But Scientology doesn’t “believe” in insurance. “Don’t be PTS.”

        Assholes.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

          Gus, the Cult may or may not be able to get away with not providing insurance to their “flock” after 1/1/14 due to the Affordable Care Act. I’m not aware of a “ministerial exception” to providing health coverage as required by the Affordable Care Act of 2010. Any employer of a certain size (I think 50 EEs but this varies by state) has to provide a minimal amount of coverage, and unless the Sea Org splits off their numerous (and well over several thousand) “employees” under separate legal entities they may have some problems.

          Unfortunately, those “problems” will be tax-related and considering that the cult pays no taxes, this may be a non-issue. Or it may not. I’ve seen some interesting plans regarding on how the Fed will creack down on those that refuse to play by the rules and it’s not pretty.

          I’d write more here, but I refuse to give the Cult any ideas on how to avoid trouble.

    • Gus_Cox

      From where the accident occurred, I think you are absolutely right. There is an entrance to a nice bike path right in that area, a bike path that runs along the LA River. It’s a nice ride, and a great way to destim from pretty much anything including the fucking SO.

  • J. Swift

    Best wishes to Greta and John for John’s recovery.

    Best wishes for Damian’s recovery.

    It is worth noting that John Coale’s fellow Scientologist Bob Duggan became a billionaire recently when his company’s new cancer drug performed well in clinicals and its stock price shot up.

    The gap between what Scientology can and cannot do in terms of the body widens every year. At some point, Scientologists will follow the same path as Christians and Jews and give up on the idea of faith healing. They will embrace every advantage of modern medicine and use the OT levels to handle whatever spiritual issues they attribute to their NOTs case.

    Bob Duggan’s success in pharmaceuticals could be argued to be his vote of no confidence in Scientology to handle cancer. Ironically, Duggan will donate large sums of money to his Church for what? So that the existing horrific scene can be perpetuated? Will Bob Duggan donate to his Church while the medical care of Sea Org members continues to be dumped onto the taxpayers?

    Bob Duggan may understand finance and his pharmaceuticals, but he does not appear to have any common sense when it comes to his Church.

    John and Greta at least understand that they need the real science of modern medicine to save John’s life.

    • sizzle8

      Actually, most Scientologists who are not Sea Org do get standard cancer treatment on their own. They usually get auditing and assists additionally, but not instead of chemo or other treatments.
      I don”t know about SO crew these days.

    • mirele

      Bob Duggan will continue to contribute to Scn because it’s a great tax deduction, and a guy as wealthy as Bob Duggan needs all the tax deductions he can get. Even if it goes to a fucked-up slimy cult run by a tiny tyrant.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mila.minderbinder Mila Minderbinder

    Scientologists spend more on their stupid nuttypedia (900 dollars) than they donated towards a recovery of a person who’s been working for them for 15 years (520 dollars). I wonder if they would accept donations from wogs and SPs towards Damian’s recovery. By the way- the request for donations says very cryptically that Damian belongs to some group, but no mention of Scientology or the Sea Org.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yeah but the SeaOrg fashions are a give away.

    • wannabeclear

      The “groupspeak” seems pretty clearly to indicate that they are referring to $cientology when they mention their group. The group is the 3rd Dynamic, I believe…

    • Captain Howdy

      But one of them refers to “postulates” so that’s a given.

  • May_West

    The goal on the fund page is $10,000. How much of his expense will that cover?
    Note: JoJo Zawaski donated $20.
    Guess the affirmation I received that a young family member was 100% covered by medical insurance while in the sea ogre is a trifle suspect…. naw, it’s a big fat lie.

    • TonyOrtega

      It’s Jo Jo Zawawi. And she’s notorious for being one of the most fanatical of the church’s Facebook police. She makes sure you defriend SPs and do it fast.

      • SP ‘Onage

        So, she is probably OSA. There goes my donation.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

          Chances are good that any donation made to this site never get to Kevitt’s family, which are the ones that will wind up caring for him once he leaves the hospital.

      • Gus_Cox

        Jo Jo Zawawi. I knew her. She’s a total dingbat. She’s the embodiment of the not-quite-bright, fanatical Scientologist.

  • http://twitter.com/DonnieHHarris donnie harold harris

    Why he pulled it in did not he? Just kidding of course. The Citizionry will pick up the tab while others Beleifs tell them there are Big Beings. Sounds like a Body thetan to me. Lord Mattayya from the 8th dynamic.

  • sizzle8

    Poor kid.
    Best of luck to him.

  • Ze Moo

    I thought CO$ Auditors made good money? In the now somewhat distant past, they promised auditors thousands of dollars per week. Damian’s health care will fall to Medicaid (I think it is called Medical in California). That means the tax payers, not the CO$ pay for it. In the past CO$ has paid for some employees health care. Will the CO$ step up and take care of its own, or abandon him? Foot bullets cost them much less then actual medical care.

  • Karen de la Carriere

    There are ongoing savage non stop promotions to suck out more money for “Ideal Orgs” and the IAS. Money is needed and wanted for buildings which are then RENTED back to the local Church. Acquiring a building is a cash cow so Church of Scientology inc can play Landlord for eternal monthly “rentals” which come right off the top before staff pay.
    Say the weekly revenue in a small “Class V” Church is $40,000 that week.
    Here’s a rough estimate of the way it goes.

    20% to management for “management fees.”

    10% to “Author’s Royalties” Then author has been dead for 26 years and it goes to CST and then where ?

    15% to Book account to enforce more books purchased for Bridge Publications
    35% promotion to suck in more dupes
    10% utilities + renovations + supplies

    NO health insurance.l Worker’s Comp pays for all injuries and mishaps at Tax payer expense., even though it can afford ADs at Superbowl like Nike and Coca Coca Cola and pays no taxes, it gets to pay no Health Insurance !

    HENCE

    No toilet paper in the Orgs.
    Bring your own toilet paper !

    Staff go home with $50 for the week.

    No Medical paid for, no health insurance. The Church with a Billion stashed in IAS alone needs to come forward any pay Damian Kevitt’s medical instead of forcing the tax payer to swallow it.

    • Ze Moo

      Workers Comp is an insurance program that the state administers. You have to pay premiums like any other insurance. As Damian was on his own time and not working, Workers comp probably won’t apply. Damian’s only hope seems to be the arrest of the hit and run driver and even then auto insurance policy limits probably won’t completely cover Damian.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

        No, Ze Moo, Workman’s Comp in California has a general fund that is operated by the State but that is not the only Issuer. You can get private Workman’s (or Worker’s) Compensation insurance from private Issuers in California. The State operates the Fund because many Issuers will not cover some high hazard industries.

    • SP ‘Onage

      Well, someone better come up with some money or they won’t resuscitate. My friends relative had no insurance and needed a life saving operation. LA County wouldn’t operate unless someone came up with at least $7000. They couldn’t, so they pumped him full of pain meds and let him die.

      Shame on scientology for not insuring these sea org members.

      • Poison Ivy

        His uncle should sue the Sea Org.

        • SP ‘Onage

          Good advice!

      • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

        I’m speechless at that story.

        • SP ‘Onage

          Yeah, they actually calculate how much longer you have to live, how much you contribute to society, if you’ll become a burden to the State and on and on. I couldn’t believe it either.

          Believe it or not, Medical and Medicare has been known to do the same in certain cases.

          • Captain Howdy

            And as awful as that seems a certain fringe element in the republican party wants to do away with even that and let people die in the street like they do in India or Nigeria or the Philippines.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            I sold Health Insurance for a while when I first moved to Florida. You are right about the fact that everything is based on actuarial tables and formulas. It is a simple risk vs. reward calculation that can decide your fate.

            Damien is lucky that he is as young as he is, as that will be a significant contributing factor to his “worth” as a human being.

            BTW…I quit selling insurance the day two clowns I worked with came back to the office and were so proud they conned an old woman with Parkinson’s into signing one of those Colonial Penn guaranteed whole life policies (read rip off). She was in a wheelchair and they were laughing about how they had to help hold her hand so she could sign the policy she shook so badly.

            I walked out and never went back.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Worker’s comp is for employees, I thought Sea Org members were volunteer ministers who accept a small stipend in lieu of Fair Labor Standard minimum wages and overtime. What are they, volunteers or employees?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

      Karen, workman’s comp only kicks in if the injuries were done during the course of work duties. From what I’ve read here it doesn’t apply. Medi-Cal would, but the hospital has staff to get him enrolled and get their bills paid. One does NOT have to pay into Medi-Cal to get coverage. One only has to meet the eligibility requirements that are based on income, residency, and assets.

      It is the long-term costs that are at issue here.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        Another scam by Miscavige, first lie and claim his staff are employees, then lie and get workers comp, then lie to the courts and insist he has no employees.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

          Regardless of the classification, Scientology is required by law to have sufficient Workman’s Comp insurance for all of their “workers” in California. Undoubtedly they do not and they will be in a world of hurt if it is determined that this guy was injured/maimed while on the job. Unfortunately, much of the determination of a workplace injury depends on the statements of the “worker”. So if Mr. Kevitt claims that he was not “working” when he was hit by the van (and from the sound of it, he wasn’t working) then the ‘no fault’ coverage doesn’t apply.

    • DeElizabethan

      Plus, unless things have changed, I doubt. Staff members at an Org or mission who receive that $50 a week based on the 40K have to feed themselves and pay rent etc. They are not SO members. That’s why a lot of staff take the SO pitch, whereas they actually make more $$. But they don’t know what work they will be doing and what freedom they lose.

  • whingeybingey

    It’s impossible to know whether or not somebody is getting assists. It’s really not necessarily a case of assists OR medical treatment. For instance when I had deep vein thrombosis while pregnant in 1996 the org sent out a tech person to give me regular assists even though I was also injecting Fragmin – a low molecular weight Heparin. Also I am not even sure that you’re allowed to audit somebody with cancer – I know you can’t if it’s terminal. There was some reference about it that I no longer remember.

    The lack of care for an employee injured in a horrific car accident is subhuman. They are more like the Martians in the War of the Worlds than any ‘homo novis’. They suck the juice out of people then throw away the husks.

    I would contribute to Damian’s fund but we all know from the Mario Feninger case what happens when SPs try to help those that others won’t. In Australia we, the people, would take care of him.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      I won’t contribute to his fund either. First off, his friends in the SeaOrg are not going to raise enough money with that online fund to pay for a single days worth of this guys med’s….much less the rest of his medical care.
      The US taxpayers are going to be covering this one.

      So I guess I am donating.

      I didn’t mean this to sound harsh and it certainly isn’t directed at Damian.

      • SP ‘Onage

        Truth hurts. If someone doesn’t pick up the bill, yes the tax payers will. Also when he collects SSI. I doubt he’ll be able to work.

        • mirele

          And since he’s never held a real job with a real W2 he’ll probably also collect food stamps, Section 8, Medi-Cal, etc. Because he’s poverty-stricken, no thanks to a fucking no-good cult that pays its slaves peanuts.

          • SP ‘Onage

            I treat my dog better than scientology treats their sea org. She’s covered by pet insurance through PetSmart.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Michael Vick treats dogs better that Scientology treats its Sea Org!

            • Captain Howdy

              Ah not be pedantic but I’m guessing you never read the transcripts of the Vick trial. They’re beyond horrific.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Touche’

              I was exaggerating to emphasize my point. I only read a bit of it….but it was enough to make him irredeemable in my eyes.

            • Gus_Cox

              Hear hear. My two feisty felines have health insurance. And btw, look into Pet Plan. I have no commercial interest in that company, but I think their insurance is excellent and worth a comparison. Regardless, my freakin’ cats have better health coverage than the majority of Scientologists.

            • SP ‘Onage

              Will do , thanks! :)

      • DeElizabethan

        That’s right we are helping him as he assuredly will receive help from the county/state, by our taxes. Many each day we help that way. Great country we live in. Hopefully he will not continue to be a scio in time and his wife will stay with him. They will not want him since no money and would cost them. Hell of a way to get out. I feel for him and his family and interested to watch his wife and see who she supports.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          If he gets through this and recovers he will be gravely disabled. You KNOW the church will start to pressure his poor wife to divorce him.
          They will want him offloaded as soon as possible and want her ass back to work at full steam.

          Hell, they are probably in process of doing the above already.

      • whingeybingey

        I’m glad he’ll be taken care of. I was under the impression he would be racking up millions of dollars in hospital bills. You almost wouldn’t want to survive if that was going to be the outcome.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Sorry. Creepy.

  • WogInTheWorld

    I’m sure CoS will just say he obviously has some terrible overts he’s been withholding and must be declared an SP.

  • mook

    recap of Lawrence Wright’s conversation with Kim Masters a few nights ago
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lawrence-wright-talks-going-clear-425432

    • Poison Ivy

      I love Kim Masters; her book on the Disney Studios dirt was amazing.

  • Captain Howdy

    $cilons don’t believe in charity, they call it “out exchange” and it causes all sorts of overts and withholds in the Ronfooley practiced at Hogwartwashland. The poor kid is screwed and so are the taxpayers because the scumbag who did this is probably no longer “In country”.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine_of_Exchange

    • blissfulldreams

      of cause they don’t believe in charity they would have to give every penny to the abusive religion they don’t have it to give to anyone else

    • SP ‘Onage

      The guy who hit and ran was probably an illegal from Mexico. They play soccer and drink at Griffith Park all the time. Bet he doesn’t have insurance.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    There has never been health insurance coverage for staff. There have been a few times I’ve heard about liability type insurance for an org if a some PTS wog walked in and fell and sued, for instance. Staff are property of the COS. It’s too bad there isn’t someone interested in helping out indentured slaves in a time of need. Oh wait, I think I remember this one humanitarian group:

    “According to human right # 4 no one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms. If this is so, then why do we have an estimated 27 million slaves worldwide today?

    “We feel that the resolution to this problem is the making known and widespread promotion and implementation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, getting these rights known by all strata of the population. Repeatedly it has been shown that those victimized have been sadly unaware of their basic rights even to the point of not knowing that any rights exist”…”

    Now if only I could remember the name of the Director in charge of that group, maybe She could start a fundraiser to cover Damian’s health care. Oh wait, here it is: Michele Kirkland, Executive Director, Youth for Human Rights International, front group under ABLE International, department of scientology’s OSA.

    http://www.free-press-release.com/news/201003/1267597605.html#sthash.nSJqEzYv.dpuf

    • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

      I’m just going to let this sentence speak for itself:

      “devastating account on one of the most repugnant and critical issues today – modern day slavery and human trafficking – at the Celebrity Center International in Hollywood”

      Pot, you can pick up your kettle at the door.

      • richelieu jr

        YOU cut that sentence in the wrong place.. It should go, “modern day slavery and human trafficking – at the Celebrity Center International in Hollywood”..

        See how it rolls off the tongue? Try repeating it with me,

        “modern day slavery and human trafficking – at the Celebrity Center International in Hollywood, modern day slavery and human trafficking – at the Celebrity Center International in Hollywood, modern day slavery and human trafficking – at the Celebrity Center International in Hollywood, modern day slavery and human trafficking – at the Celebrity Center International in Hollywood”….

        • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

          I went back and forth on that, but I think it works both ways.

    • SP ‘Onage

      Nice!

  • Dean Fox

    Damian’s story is sad and I wish him the best. I expect Coale can take care of himself.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Btw.. I didn’t realize van susteran’s sister was a psychiatrist.. I just now read the gawker piece linked here.. Apparently, Greta’s sister is the smarter, prettier AND more ethical one..

    • richelieu jr

      And willfully ignorant of the nasty shit her sister’s involved in. Hats off to her!

      “Oh, I heard one or two people said something against psychiatry…”

      Willful ignorance seems to run in the family. No wonder Sarah Palin fit in so well…

      • sugarplumfairy

        She’s not ignorant.. I guarantee she’s aware of co$’ battle against psychiatry.. She just chose not to comment on it.. But I sure would love to know what she really thinks about it..

  • AKS

    Could some non-Scilons start a GoFundMe on Damian’s behalf? I’d bet we could pony up a lot more, and then I wouldn’t have to worry that it actually all made it to his (or his uncle’s) hands, and not to the hands of a greedy registrar.

    • Poison Ivy

      Could also go directly to the hospital bills.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

        Be careful with that because many of his bills will be paid by the state’s Medicaid program. He will definitely need help with where and how to live once he is discharged from the hospital, but there are many programs to help him do this. I’m not saying that people should not donate (they should) but know that many of his immediate bills could be paid through Medi-Cal. Low income residents are not stuck paying the entire bill (depending on the services and his coverage) by law.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Damian evidently has a sister, Claire Kevitt. Like his mother, Michele Kirland, Claire was working with Youth for Human Rights Intl since age 16. But according to this note from what sounds like the father? if not then, his mother, on the Razzline, comments from parents, Damian was “promoted out of” HGC, as ASHO Day’s top auditor, and his sister, Claire, quit the Youth group to go into the Sea Org.

    “My kids are Damian Kevitt and Claire Kevitt. Damian and Claire are both accomplished
    beings. Damian was lead auditor at ASHO Day and “Auditor of the Year” for 4 years in a row,
    until he was promoted out of the HGC. Before he joined the SO, at the age of 18, he had
    co-authored a chapter in his UC Santa Barbara professor’s book on Marine Biology and had
    done research that saved the Carpentaria Salt Marsh from development. Claire was Youth
    President of Youth for Human Rights for over 4 years since the age of 12 or so. She spoke
    to vice presidents of countries and other OL’s, traveled to India, South Korea and other
    places (raising her own funds for each trip) to help YHRI. She joined the SO last Spring
    and turned the hat over.”

    http://original.therazzline.net/2008/02/14/responses-kids-rewards-and-penalties-examples/
    Published on Feb 14, 2008

    http://human_rights_power.webs.com/updates.htm

    • sugarplumfairy

      wow.. That breaks my heart..poor Damian should have gone to school and been a marine biologist.. Instead, he indentures himself into servitude to despicable co$ for a billion years..

      • Poison Ivy

        Hear ya Sugar. Right now in human history, it’s the marine biologists who are doing the real “planet saving” work; not the auditors helping people “remember” their past orgies on Jupiter.

        • SP ‘Onage

          Yeah, scientology should be pumping their money into the Sea Shepherd and save some whales. Instead, they buy more mofo buildings.

          • Captain Howdy

            The Sea Shepherds are one of the few peopleIi call “heroes”

            • SP ‘Onage

              I donate to them when I can and buy stuff from them to show my support. I actually got into an argument with a stranger because he didn’t like the Sea Shepherd t-shirt I was wearing. He said, ‘they were a bunch of tree huggers.’ It really pissed me off!

              Anyway, Captain. I’m glad you call them heroes. Their my heroes too. I thought I’d get flamed for bringing them up in my post.

            • SP ‘Onage

              Aww shit! their = they’re

            • Captain Howdy

              Certain folks call them eco terrorists like they do Earth First., These are usually the same folks raping the planet like the Koch bros and the Chinese/Japanese genocidal fishing fleets.

            • SP ‘Onage

              I don’t dislike the Japanese in general, but I sure do hate their whaling industry, especially when they lie and say it’s for research. It’s all about the greed for money and their pride. They should not be in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, period.

              I wish their floating slaughter-house, the Nisshin Maru would sink.

            • Captain Howdy

              The Chinese Doom fleet is currently killing apoprox 100 million sharks a year, at his rate the apex predator of the oceans will be extinct within 20 years if not sooner, And the ironic thing is that shark fin is virtually flavorless, it’s the spices that give it any flavor. So just like the quackery of chinese herbal medicine, thousands of major animal species are facing rapidly looming extinction due to superstition and the elitism of the wealthy..

            • SP ‘Onage

              Damn China!

        • Captain Howdy

          That was my dream when i was young thanks to Jacques Cousteau and you’re right about MB’s being on the frontlines as far as “planet saving” is concerned because if the Oceans go we all go and currently the oceans are dying..rapidly.

        • sugarplumfairy

          Amen..

    • SP ‘Onage

      I am a crappy writer and my grammar and punctuation sucks, but maybe if we can cause a big enough flap scientology will have to pay for his medical. It will be bad PR if they don’t.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Deckard Cain’s post above is what I would call more reality-based and the kind of help he needs…the right advocate for the U.S. system of programs and ever changing mountains of requirements. If his story got a lot of national attention, Miscavige might be forced to throw him a bone, but millions? don’t think so. Might be different if it happened on premises or he was doing his job. Those left, the more and more I see and hear, honestly, these are narcissists, sociopaths, white collar crim types, and the rest are in need of psychiatric help suffering from an a buffet of disorders. It is more likely than not that we’ll be hearing more and more stories of serious accidents, people who disappear, horror flicks like that of Alice Wu and Mario Fenninger and the growing list of names oozing out of Narconons. Sad and scary stuff of nightmares, these last years of scientolgy. And Miscavige still keeps squeezing tighter and harder. It’s not going to be pretty.

        • SP ‘Onage

          I think the keywords is, “the right Advocate,” your right. I have a female friend who is in dire need of surgery right now. She can’t work has no insurance and she has tried to get on Medi-cal for over two years. Medi-cal won’t pick her up. The only one helping her is the Ace Program.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

          Thanks for the endorsement, THDNE. There are many non-profit advocate groups for the disabled that can help however they (and Mr. Kevitt) would be better served if they got the right PR spotlight. On Monday, I’m going to do some research on this.

          But the sad fact remains that as much as we want to help this poor guy, he may reject us and all of our help, and any wog organizations that try to help him. So I will keep this in mind when I do some outreach.

          We are evil, degraded beings after all.

      • Captain Howdy

        “I am a crappy writer and my grammar and punctuation sucks”
        Stand in line because you’re behind me and i don’t care as long as the jist of it comes through my friend.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I will get in line with you guys on this one.

    • Artoo45

      This Razzline thing is terrifying to read. Stepfordish and cold descriptions of family life run like the Sea Org. Structure and boundaries are vital, but this stuff is just creepy . . . “I see my daughter as a science experiment . . .” Children are all “hatted” and have “stats.” Source has the best information on child rearing. Right.

      • Gus_Cox

        Yeah, ol’ “Source” was a real expert on raising kids. He set a great example. That any of them are still alive is testament to the kids, not their father.

  • Sherbet

    Two contributors on Damian’s fund site are sending “postulates” that he will get “better fast!”

    The man has been close to death, and these two are chirping a nonsensical scn catchphrase at him. Helpful.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      We know it is nonsense, but those poor suckers chirping this crap really and truly don’t.
      And that is scary and sad.

      • Sherbet

        Oops, somebody didn’t like our comments, Bury.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I will be confronted and you be shattered.

          • SP ‘Onage

            You seriously make me laugh!

    • Are_sics

      I don’t know if that’s any worse than any other well-wishing. It’s the “insperation” that sort of stuck out to me. Maybe a typo, but maybe a sign of the opportunity costs in that organization, all the education missed.

    • Captain Howdy

      “Two contributors on Damian’s fund site are sending “postulates” that he will get “better fast!” ‘

      Yea I saw that at the same time I was watching an old episode of “Bewitched’ and I thought “ah synchronicity”.

      • 1subgenius

        Where were the postulates that he NOT GET HIT BY A FUCKING CAR AND HAVE HIS LEG TORN OFF?
        (RIP Sam Kinison)

    • Ciru

      It’s no help obviously but no different to Christians praying for victims of disasters rather than doing something useful to help them.

      • Sherbet

        I’m not doubting their good intentions. After all, they contributed toward the fund. It’s just that the cheerful sci-speak sticks in my craw in such a serious situation. Furthermore, a Christian praying to God to intervene for a victim of tragedy IS different. Whether we believe in God or not, the idea is to ask a higher power for help, because the problem is too severe for man to fix on his own. The two scientologists I mentioned are attempting to heal Damian by the sheer (dubious) power of their own wills. If that’s part of the OT package of special skills, well, there are serious doubts that those abilities really exist or there would be no illness within scientology. But, again, I did not mean to knock their good will in wishing Damian health, and I apologize if I offended people here.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

    Tony, just a little info on how the heath care system works in California for indigent and low income residents (in general, there are mountains of eligibility requirements and hundreds of programs):

    —————————————————————–
    Currently eligibility is determined at a County level, and childless adults with <133% of Federal Poverty Level are eligible (after passing an asset test, and other factors) for Medi-Cal, which is California's version of Medicaid. Accidents like this for someone who is not indigent but very low income would be covered in order for stabilization needs. Mr. Kevitt will be permanently disabled so he possibly has coverage through SSI and possibly Medicare (although if he has never paid into the system he may not).

    What Mr. Kevitt is facing would be medical bills in the future for millions for anything that isn't related to getting him stable and out of real danger. Once he becomes stable and is discharged, Medi-Cal will cover only limited benefits toward his recuperation. PT and OT will most likely not be covered unless it is related to a daily function, like eating or going to the bathroom.

    California has a public Short Term Disability program that covers folks that are disabled and out of work for 8 days and information about that is at this link (http://www.edd.ca.gov/disability/DI_Eligibility.htm). Mr. Kevitt will have had to pay into the system, which is unlikely knowing how the Sea Org handles payroll. California's STD program is, well, short term and I highly doubt that any Sea Org member has any type of LTD coverage but even if they did, you would only get 66% (at most) of your crappy salary.

    Long term rehab will be very minimal and hard to obtain. Mr. Kevitt would be better off if he got some Medi-Cal advocates to help him navigate the system. Mr. Kevitt may be what is called a "dual eligible" (those that are eligible for Medi-Cal and Medicare due to age, income and/or disability), and then things get even more complicated. There's a website that may help him:
    http://www.cahealthadvocates.org/low-income/medi-cal.html#covers

    I've seen first hand how an advocate group can make a huge difference in health outcomes, but you have to be very vocal and almost aggressive in guiding your own care. I have contacts at California's Department of Health Care Services and I may try to find a referral for an advocate group in Los Angeles County for him, one that specializes in disabilities. If I get a good one, I'm not sure how to get this information to the right people but I'll figure that out later.

    This poor guy is going to need a lot of help navigating the system. Things are supposed to get better after 1/1/14 when the asset test and eligibility rules change, but he is going to need someone to spend a LOT of time figuring it all out. Thankfully, he may actually get some financial assistance from the state in paying for rent and LA County has a fairly decent health care process (although the quality is suspect). He does have options.

    • Captain Howdy

      Great informative comment DC.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

        Thanks, Captain Howdy. I want our peeps here to know that from the moment Mr. Kevitt was brought into the hospital, the hospital staff works to get their own bills paid so they work to get him covered through Medi-Cal. Stories like this are somewhat common (i.e. low income people needing immediate care and they don’t have insurance) so I’m hoping to provide information that helps explain how his bills will be paid at this point. There are, like I said, hundreds of programs that help and I would hate for my fellow bunkerites to not be informed about them.

        Mr. Kevitt needs help, no doubt. But I would like to help us all here to understand the type of help he needs and how he can get this help. I will do what I can in a general sense, but I hope that everyone here knows that in California, and in Los Angeles County he will hopefully get some level of assistance.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          Thanks Deck!

    • SP ‘Onage

      Thanks Deckard, I sent your post to my friend.

  • Unex Skcus

    It’s noteworthy IMHO that both Damian Kevitt, *AND* John ‘Bhopal’ Coale, get a lot of sympathy and good wishes from a bunch of wogs and SPs. The diametric opposite of Co$.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      And also the Indies. A poor soul posted at Marty’s about the fair game he and his family are facing right now–clearly suffering. Only two wogs posted encouragement to him. It was quite telling. The little gaggle just kept on squawking about how compassionate they are and how fucked up Co$ is without even an acknowledgement. This was after a previous discussion about the piano teacher. http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/ot-viii-hallucinatory-cause/#comment-256193
      Something tells me, however, if Marty had acknowledged this man, they would have been falling all over themselves to provide a kind word.

      • SP ‘Onage

        Aren’t some of the Windies turning on him?

      • Unex Skcus

        Yeh well, I kinda think Marty has his own agenda. To me, he’s full of shit.

    • DeElizabethan

      Nice if we had an address of the hospital and we could send Damian cards?

      • Unex Skcus

        Perhaps in the spirit of Andreas Heldal-Lund, who did no more than be a polite and thoughtful human being to Tory Christman… and consider that outcome!

        • DeElizabethan

          It is nice when people are sincere and kind towards one another I agree.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Maybe this will open his eyes and he’ll leave scientology if all goes well. Jason Beghe the did after his near fatal car accident.

    “Beghe says the proof that Scientology was no longer working for him came when he was almost killed in a car accident. After the L’s, he points out, that shouldn’t happen. “A clear isn’t supposed to have a car accident. You’re supposed to be practically immortal.”

    To the Scientologists, the accident was an indication that someone was “suppressing” Beghe. So they pulled him in for more interrogation.

    “What about this gay person you’re friends with,” Beghe says one official asked him, implying that somehow the gay friend was causing Beghe’s clear state to be sabotaged. When Beghe objected, he says the official responded, “Well, he’s gay.”

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2008/04/jason_beghe_sci.php

    Tony ‘s old blog at VV.

  • N. Graham

    I posted yesterday on Ms. Susteran’s blog that I hoped he would be ok and didn’t Scientology prohibit Chemo? And that I was glad he had chosen the medical method. I wonder if it’s still there.

  • richelieu jr

    I just found out that van Susteren’s sister is a Psychologist and even teaches it at a major university… How does she keep from having to disconnect, exactly?

    • 1subgenius

      Psychiatrist.

      • richelieu jr

        Oh Jeez, of course you’re right, Subgenius. What a gaffe!

  • Semper Phi

    What happened to Damian is staggering and awful. He was training at Flag during my time there, and he was one of the kindest and most humane of all the people in the Outer Org Trainee program. Such a great guy, and a real leader. My God, I’m so sad this has happened to him, and that he is destitute because of his dedication to that evil, inhumane organization that treats such good people so hideously.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001007868067 Synthia Elizabeth Fagen

      When was this time at Flag? I wonder if my husband was there too. How long ago?

      • Semper Phi

        I arrived in 2007 and left in 2010, so I think I was after his time. We would both have been in the East U.S. continent group, and so would have known him.

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    I know I am kvetching to the choir here (now there’s an oxymoron) but I have been stewing on the compassion issue for the past few days. It is nauseating, sad, disgusting, heartbreaking.

    In addition to these tragedies, what has also been noodling around my brain is that we, the taxpayers, are picking up the cost for this. Who pays for the hospitals that treat the uninsured SO members and public they have fleeced? Who pays for their food stamps? Who pays for the elderly and the infirm who have been cast off? How many kids whose parents have fled to join the SO are welfare recipients or orphaned? Further, who will end up supporting the imported slave labor from Third World countries once they have been cast off? What about the Type III’s they’ve abandoned? How does the public who have lost their homes and had to cash in their 401(k) plans effect the community and the economy? What about the brain drain–bright young’uns like this potential marine biologist who could have been a contributor? What happens to all of the uneducated kids who wake up? Who pays for all of those SO abortions?

    They curb the growth of communities. They buy buildings with cash that don’t foster an economy or even a community respite. They stiff the builders. They use SO slave labor whenever they can. Or, conversely, they let the buildings go to seed and it becomes a blight or even a danger to the neighborhood. And, of course, they don’t pay the property tax until there is court action. Did anyone catch the footage about the raw sewage and water runoff at Saint Hill?

    Don’t even get me started on the abuse of our judicial system and law enforcement resources.

    Now here is my REAL tapeworm: They claim they are humanitarian by contributing to NarCONon. They charge a small fortune for that “program” and/or commit insurance fraud; hopefully, they won’t kill anyone in the process. They even offload those “students” when they don’t tow the line. They use “graduates” in lieu of properly trained staff. As well, for disaster relief, they reg the public, pocket the cash, and use sci-bots in yellow t-shirts for photo ops. Again, nothing goes back into the economy; nobody is served.

    Why the hell are they tax exempt? Where the fuck is the IRS? Why are WE paying for this? Maybe one day John P will do one of his number shticks and try to assign some kind of economic value to this, guesstimating the number of SO left. Thank god that number is dwindling.

    I do not wish ill on anyone, but why isn’t it the midget who is in a hospital room without a leg and fighting for life instead of this promising young man? With the amount of physical, psychological, spiritual, and monetary rape that thug has caused I can’t believe no one has taken a shot at him yet.

    Sorry for unloading. Consider it an errant engram.

    • Missionary Kid

      Maybe their slogan should be, “We need to destroy the world in order to conquer it.”

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        Unbelievable. Have you ever thought about the billion dollars or so that has been amassed by Co$? Just think of the good those dollars could have done contributing to the churn of the economy, to real charitable causes that can make a difference, to further scientific advancement… All for shit.

        Ya know, I think I am focused this evening on the $ just because it has been so painful lately to think about all of the damaged souls and destroyed families. Finally just finished Jenna’s book. Whew!!!

        • Missionary Kid

          All that money, going, not to the church, but ultimately to the Dinky
          Mindfuck. The destruction of the individuals involved and to their
          families and to the societies that Co$ exists in, just to enrich the
          person at the top is frightening. Ultimately, it’s a land grab. By
          owning the land and buildings through shell corporations, no matter what
          happens to the individuals who’ve given their lives to supporting the
          supposed religion, DM ends up owning the land, even if Co$ goes broke.

          People don’t realize that the real wealth (pun intended) that the Howard
          Hughes estate ended up with didn’t come from the oil drilling
          equipment, which provided the income, but from the real estate holdings
          that he’d acquired.

    • Captain Howdy

      Great comment PreferToBeAnon2

    • EnthralledObserver

      This goes round my mind a lot too, thanks for putting it into words so eloquently! AGREE!

    • SP ‘Onage

      Whoa! Damn good post!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

      PreferToBeAnon2, this is a topic that actually impacts my life on a daily basis (if you couldn’t tell from my countless posts on today’s topic). The economics of this illustrate why the US is so ass fucking backward. Unfortunately the founders of this fucked-up nation were (arguably) cult members that escaped persecution to populate North America and write laws that “protect” new and established cults/religions. The US is fertile ground for cults because we were founded by 1) religious and cult refugees and 2) monarchs that sent over teams for the purposes of enrichment, which meant legal enslavement of others for capital gain.

      Yes, American jurisprudence is based on all sorts of lovely schools of thought like that of Kant, John Stuart Mill, Blackstone, etc. but the practical “religious freedom” masses that filled its borders and survived paved the way for Scientology to exist.

      Unfortunately there are millions that take advantage of the government’s good will and expensive programs, but it only takes a story like this one to remind me why these programs are important.

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        I hear ya Deck!

    • 0tessa

      $cientology is a parasitic system. Parasitism – that is their economic strategy. That explains perhaps some of your questions. They suck blood out of society and individuals on a large scale. There is only one person that benefits: Miscavige and a few of his consiglieri.
      $cientology is a parasite, that ‘kills’ its host(s) if we let it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

    Regarding the online fundraiser for Damian. The goal is $10,000.While I applaud their concern and compassion I’m not sure that what they’re seeking would even cover 1/10 of the bill given today’s prices for healthcare.

    • Captain Howdy

      I’m guessing that $10,000 would cover 1 days medical care in a case this severe.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeU2utihwM Deckard Cain

        It will maybe cover the anesthesia for one surgery.

    • 1subgenius

      Talk about lowered expectations.
      And compare this to the amount regged from these suckers. And the coffers of the cult.
      Pathetic.
      How much was raised for the Headley’s. And, in how long?
      And by total strangers.

  • danlocke

    The Kevitts are all good natured geniuses. Amongst the smartest, nicest people I know — and I know plenty of smart, nice people. I am not surprised at all to hear that Damian’s managing this with some good humor.

  • Dee

    Wouldn’t the Damian Kevitt incident be a perfect opportunity for the CoS to boost its image with the public? This terrible hit-and-run appears to be a big story in LA. CoS would look great if it very publicly came out and announced that the church stands by its own when they are hurt, that his medical bills will be covered and that his fellow Sea Org members will be by his bedside every day until he recovers. After all, when there is a terrible accident, Scientologists are the ones who can help.

    Even if you assume that the CoS is completely indifferent to Kevitt, this would be a big PR win. They could get far more out of this than they did out of that Superbowl ad, and it would probably cost about the same.

    • ParticleMom

      If DM had either a bit of humanity or sense they would. I’m not holding my breath.

    • DeElizabethan

      Yes, had that thought too. Guess we’ll see how it goes and will be interesting to watch and figure out. It can go either was with the PR. They could be blasted for not helping.

    • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

      If they did they would be setting a precedent and would probably open them up to future costs and likely court cases “based on this precedent” (and retrospective ones, maybe). I don’t see it happening.

  • http://twitter.com/jonhendry Jonathan W. Hendry

    Random thought:

    I’m surprised Scientology hasn’t just started using an EZ-Pass system. Members could wear transponders, and the cult would set up scanners at various points in every building. Entering an org? CHARGE. Entering an auditing room? CHARGE. Exiting an auditing room? CHARGE.

  • DeElizabethan

    Off topic: Former teachers and administrators are concerned that at-risk students at the Phoenix-based Career Success charter school district have been exposed to teaching methods tied to the Church of Scientology.
    The director sees no problem.

    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/27081/religion-news-briefs-for-thursday-feb-27-2013

    • California

      Charter schools have to follow the same curriculum as public schools……. the “director” cannot make this decision independently…. the school is under a school board plus the local educational district.

      Thanks so much for posting this.

  • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

    Now here’s a story that will leave a a little bit of sick in your mouth…., especially after reading the main story here:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2286704/Connor-Cruise-shows-love-flashy-cars-arrives-fashion-party-new-yellow-Lamborghini.html

    Conor Cruise arrives at party in new Lamborghini

    The first pic of his (I’m guessing) scion handler is hilarious….

    • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

      I’m pretty sure my comment there won’t get posted so I’ll share it here:

      ‘That’s not his friend, that’s his Scientology “handler” – notice his fish-out-of-water bug eyes, he’s not used to this scenario. As one who follows all things Cruise and Scientology related stuff I thought I might share that Conor Cruise is widely suspected to be the son of a Sea Org member who was taken from her against her will. ‘

      …. Give you an idea of the Daily Mail readership – quite a few of the comments there are wondering why Conor Cruise is black (Facepalm).

      • 1subgenius

        Yer gonna have to be sneakier.

        This one is pretty funny:

        “Never seen with his mother?”

    • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

      ALL of the photos of the handler are seriously f…ing funny. Thanks lush, needed that. Just finished Luke Catton’s book and with this story have had enough of these slimy f…ers today.

    • 0tessa

      Wonder it the car had not been ‘customized’ by some poor sea org members …

  • DodoTheLaser

    I really hope the poor guy will live.

    The Susteren’s… sad, but mixed.

    Tony, you might be getting featured in the “Freedom” Mag.

    I’s like an SP Declare, but for non-scientologists.
    It took them a minute.

    Congrats!

    • 1subgenius

      Featured in Atlantic Wire.

      This Is What a Scientology Investigative Reporter Does: Investigate People Who Report on Scientologyhttp://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/03/what-scientology-investigative-reporter-does/62686/

  • Bob

    A quick note for everyone to think about. If you believe the policy on PTS about illness and accidents occurring because a person is connected to an SP or unsolvable problem, then we know why this happened to Damian. And being current I see this a lot. The sheepologists are PTS to their church and the situation they are in. This is one laughable explanation. 24/7 stress will cause illness and accidents. Almost every clamologist I know is under this stress but they NEVER see it. If all the ethics officers did their jobs, they would get everyone to disconnect from the church. Hey, the PTS/SP course teaches the psyentologists to shatter suppression. Would be great to see them all turn on the tiny tyrant.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      In my wildest dreams that is EXACTLY what I would like to see happen, Bob.
      I would love to see them turn on him en masse.
      It will never happen…but hey…a girl can dream.

  • Sidney18511

    The fund set up for him is only at $820.00. These people don’t give a shit about their own.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Remember he was in the SeaOrg. Those were his friends and they don’t have anything to really donate.
      That $820.00 probably was quite the hardship for those who donated.
      But once the “church” decides to offload him which they probably already are…..All of those Sea Org who donated probably will be told to stay away from this PTS.
      Sick shit for sure.

    • hogarthian

      I think someone from Anonymous should go and talk to him. Although minus the mask though, it may push him over the edge, poor sod.

  • hogarthian

    Another 6 hours spent in the rabbit hole. I feel like I’m being brainwashed. Is the Underground Bunker a cult? Abandoning the sick for the good of the whole…. like those poor shark ravaged f***ers in the novel The Beach.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yes, and Yes.
      Welcome back.

      Oh but we are a good cult…if that is possible.

      • hogarthian

        I don’t predict I’ll be leaving here anytime soon! I suspect I’m in for the long haul… hanging on ’til the bitter end….. dragging my arse, exhausted, over the finish line when it all inevitably goes tits up for these people. I’ve learned so much! I even know about ‘indie’s’ now…. (the whole idea of which I find most disturbing). I now refer (in my head, obv) to these two related yet disparate factions as Mork’s and Mindy’s, which may only make sense to me?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=807833005 Jeff Jacobsen

    Wait a minute. Didn’t Tom Cruise say if a Scientologist sees someone has been in an accident, they know what to do to help? I would think that especially applies to a fellow Scientologist, and ESPECIALLY to one who has joined the Sea Org. So is Tom Cruise going to step up for Kevitt? Or was that all just hot air?

  • Miss Pert

    I am so saddened to hear about Damian and send him the best wishes in the world for a speedy recovery and the ability to live as normal a life as possible after this horrible tragedy. I met Damian when I was in, we were both training at Flag and all contact I had with him was positive and he seemed to be a very nice guy. At one time we were in iso (isolation for those of us that were downstat enough to get sick) at the same time. As part of the daily routine we were expected to run assists (Scilon “helaing” prcoesses) on each other. Damian, who used to study marine biology before he joined the SO, used to take us out the back of our berthing area to an inlet and we would feed the fish our leftovers from breakfast and lunch. We all enjoyed our little bit of folly and it brought us all “up tone,” which is supposed to be the basic purpose of an assist, and we called it the Fish Assist, even though it wasn’t an LRH approved activity. Damian and his Fish Assist are one of the very few fond memories I have of my time training at Flag.

  • J.W.

    You’re using this horrible tragedy to further your anti-Scientology agenda? Shame on you.

    • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

      Oh just fuck off!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      go back to your clay table and demo. This place is full of people who are anti child abuse, anti human rights violation, anti financial fraud, anti blackmail, coercion, kidnapping, beating, psychological terrorizing, forced abortions, anti crime.

      Oh, and anti Miscavige living extravagantly like some dictator while Sea Org members Still have no life insurance coverage. Oh, we’re also anti sleep deprivation, child labor, slavery conditions of any kind for any reason, against withholding full array of all types of medical care including Non scientology specialists, a mentally and physically and emotionally healthy environment and schedule and we’re anti disconnection of family. And that, J.W. is what You are supporting, day in and day out. And by supporting it, you are an accessory to it. Who do you think is going to wind up paying his bills? The wog taxpayers you so destest. How fast do you think the Sea Org is going to dump him? if all of those 12 million scientologists just donated 50 cents to his fundraiser, he’s be all set. Where Are all those 12 million? Why are they not helping?

      Ex scientologists and Ex Sea Org members are the only ones with a code of honor, my friend.

      • J.W.

        LOL I’m not a Scientologist

  • Mary_McConnell

    Greta updates all below. Wonder what’s gonna happen now that she’s kinda praising radiation therapy

    Just FYI
    by Greta Van Susteren
    Feb 27 2013 – 7:23 PM ET

    12:57 – someone just sent me another headline that I
    revealed “DEVASTATING NEWS” – it is not devastating. We are lucky! It
    was caught early and with radiation there is only a 10% chance it will
    return. Radiation is horrible but you live. Others are not that lucky
    and get great a great prognosis – we are — and I don’t want to take
    away from those who have a much more serious medical situation.

    12:50 pm I have neglected to thank of you for your very kind comments..so thank you!

    Feb 28 I just saw a headline that said my husband is battling cancer
    (see below.) Battling? Yes, that is true but it seems a bit extreme to
    call it battling when you compare to others and when you consider the
    surgeries are over and the prognosis is a good one. As noted he already
    had the surgeries….and if he did not have radiation that he is doing
    now, it would have a 35% chance to return. With radiation, the chances
    are 10%. That is low. That is an extremely good prognosis. We are
    lucky. Many families are not. I post this addendum because I don’t
    want to make it seem worse than it is. Yes, radiation is rough and
    turns our lives upside down but he will get through it – many Americans
    do every day….and many Americans have much worse cancers. A good friend
    of mine referred to it as the “new normal” and she is right. It is
    very difficult for us now but we know what the prognosis is (a great
    one) and we just soldier on like others.

    http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/02/27/just-fyi/

    • DeElizabethan

      Gosh thanks for that. I ended up leaving a message for her as a “former member of her religion”. (since I was registered by chance). My hubby survived many years using traditional and alternative methods so I could relate to her.

  • Concerns_of_a_Father

    How come the Scientology can claim worker’s comp for sea org members? Isn’t worker’s comp set up for businesses?

  • Concerns_of_a_Father

    If Scientology is required to pay worker’s comp, how come you never see the posters in orgs that are required by OSHA?

  • Concerns_of_a_Father

    Did Damien get run over by OSA “handlers” trying to get them back into org because they were blowing? How come this story doesn’t mention his involvement in Scientology in other media? Cover up? Inquiring minds want to know.

    • TonyOrtega

      There’s no evidence for this. The most likely scenario, and what police are concentrating on, was that the van was being driven by someone who was leaving a soccer game at Griffith Park who may have been drinking.

  • Madora Pennington

    Damian is entitled to special state funds as a victim of violent crime (hit and run).