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	Comments on: Scientology disconnection rips apart another family, this time affecting a familiar face	</title>
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		By: flyonthewall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flyonthewall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1362223&quot;&gt;Jimmy3&lt;/a&gt;.

ikr, ok I&#039;m gonna post it.  If I get in trouble it&#039;s your fault.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1362223">Jimmy3</a>.</p>
<p>ikr, ok I&#8217;m gonna post it.  If I get in trouble it&#8217;s your fault.</p>
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		By: Jimmy3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1362173&quot;&gt;flyonthewall&lt;/a&gt;.

LMAO]]></description>
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<p>LMAO</p>
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		By: flyonthewall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flyonthewall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353262&quot;&gt;Jimmy3&lt;/a&gt;.

is this too much?  I blocked the wang, which is visible in the original pic.  It&#039;s from a book written for autistic people and telling them how not to touch yourself in public.  Fly lady found it at the library]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353262">Jimmy3</a>.</p>
<p>is this too much?  I blocked the wang, which is visible in the original pic.  It&#8217;s from a book written for autistic people and telling them how not to touch yourself in public.  Fly lady found it at the library</p>
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		By: It's Me!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It's Me!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353348&quot;&gt;seriouslyWTF&lt;/a&gt;.

No, I LOVE the humanity, the emotion, the love. All the things that Scn drilled out of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353348">seriouslyWTF</a>.</p>
<p>No, I LOVE the humanity, the emotion, the love. All the things that Scn drilled out of us.</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrrrr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenyfurrrrr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1354730&quot;&gt;Saint&lt;/a&gt;.

You weren&#039;t &quot;drama queen&quot; at all! You were passionate and poised - it was just very touching! It is such an evil component and I&#039;m glad you spoke out. That&#039;s what helps people realize this is not normal or ok - it&#039;s in fact evil and very damaging! If the technology &quot;worked&quot; as it&#039;s supposed to, they wouldn&#039;t need to threaten disconnection. If you are &quot;more able, more capable and free&quot; then why would one be restricted in what they read, view or with whom they interact be such a big deal? But it doesn&#039;t, not the way they claim. So instead disconnection is one of many tools of control and limitation. Hearing what you and others have gone through and that it&#039;s NOT normal or healthy may help break the chains for those lurking. I hope some parents or OSA read your experience and hope that it breaks through and touches their hearts that Scio spends so much effort trying to cut people off from acknowledging they have... Love, family, nurturing and feeling... These are basic human needs and Scientology denies these. (You know this far better than I do though!!!) xoxo - hugs from here and don&#039;t ever feel you&#039;re being a drama queen or anything of the like! ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1354730">Saint</a>.</p>
<p>You weren&#8217;t &#8220;drama queen&#8221; at all! You were passionate and poised &#8211; it was just very touching! It is such an evil component and I&#8217;m glad you spoke out. That&#8217;s what helps people realize this is not normal or ok &#8211; it&#8217;s in fact evil and very damaging! If the technology &#8220;worked&#8221; as it&#8217;s supposed to, they wouldn&#8217;t need to threaten disconnection. If you are &#8220;more able, more capable and free&#8221; then why would one be restricted in what they read, view or with whom they interact be such a big deal? But it doesn&#8217;t, not the way they claim. So instead disconnection is one of many tools of control and limitation. Hearing what you and others have gone through and that it&#8217;s NOT normal or healthy may help break the chains for those lurking. I hope some parents or OSA read your experience and hope that it breaks through and touches their hearts that Scio spends so much effort trying to cut people off from acknowledging they have&#8230; Love, family, nurturing and feeling&#8230; These are basic human needs and Scientology denies these. (You know this far better than I do though!!!) xoxo &#8211; hugs from here and don&#8217;t ever feel you&#8217;re being a drama queen or anything of the like! </p>
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		By: PoisonIvyHerself		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You rock Ramana.  The courage and strength of character of former Scientologists like you just slays me.  Seriously, everyone on this board who is an ex- I salute you.  I&#039;ve been through some tough stuff in my life but it pales in comparison to what you&#039;ve survived.  Keep telling your stories.  You matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You rock Ramana.  The courage and strength of character of former Scientologists like you just slays me.  Seriously, everyone on this board who is an ex- I salute you.  I&#8217;ve been through some tough stuff in my life but it pales in comparison to what you&#8217;ve survived.  Keep telling your stories.  You matter.</p>
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		By: Saint		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353435&quot;&gt;Ella Raitch&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m thinking of those for whom disconnection is recent and even more raw.  Thanks for the internet hug.  Sometimes flipping the bird is inadequate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353435">Ella Raitch</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of those for whom disconnection is recent and even more raw.  Thanks for the internet hug.  Sometimes flipping the bird is inadequate.</p>
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		By: Saint		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353991&quot;&gt;Free to shine&lt;/a&gt;.

Internet hugs to you back.  I am a parent, and I cannot imagine how I would feel in your situation.   I am very sorry that has happened to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353991">Free to shine</a>.</p>
<p>Internet hugs to you back.  I am a parent, and I cannot imagine how I would feel in your situation.   I am very sorry that has happened to you.</p>
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		By: Saint		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1354603&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrrrr&lt;/a&gt;.

Didn&#039;t mean to drama queen.  Disconnection really bothers me, always did.  Always always did.  As a child, I watched my grandparents fear of it.  My relatives, who might have intervened on our behalf, were either worried they would lose contact with our DAD, or thought they would lose what limited contact they had with us.  It is evil blackmail, and just the threat of it is enough to do damage.  Reading about Ramana&#039;s story, an adult with a child of her own...and then Sid&#039;s ad, an innocuous ad saying &quot;call me,&quot; is bullied into silence.  I move on, I live my life, and then stuff like this always reminds me that disconnection, and the damage it does, is always there.  It is there as a threat, then it is there as a promise, then it is there as a reality, then, if you are &quot;lucky,&quot; it is there as an experience you live through.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1354603">Jenyfurrrrr</a>.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t mean to drama queen.  Disconnection really bothers me, always did.  Always always did.  As a child, I watched my grandparents fear of it.  My relatives, who might have intervened on our behalf, were either worried they would lose contact with our DAD, or thought they would lose what limited contact they had with us.  It is evil blackmail, and just the threat of it is enough to do damage.  Reading about Ramana&#8217;s story, an adult with a child of her own&#8230;and then Sid&#8217;s ad, an innocuous ad saying &#8220;call me,&#8221; is bullied into silence.  I move on, I live my life, and then stuff like this always reminds me that disconnection, and the damage it does, is always there.  It is there as a threat, then it is there as a promise, then it is there as a reality, then, if you are &#8220;lucky,&#8221; it is there as an experience you live through.</p>
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		By: Artoo45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artoo45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353020&quot;&gt;Sherbet&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m an AAA as well, but I belive that we, as citizens of the planet, have a responsibility to praise and nurture good works wherever we them, no matter their source. And by &quot;good,&quot; I mean golden rule-y, beneficial actions that make the world a better place. 

As for how we react to cruel, vindictive and nasty actors out there? I think we have quite a toolkit here in the Bunker: Tireless, impeccable, journalistic investigation. Fearless protest from former members and never-ins. Social media persistence, and an endless well of J&#038;D to make the medicine easier to deliver.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/03/15/scientology-disconnection-rips-apart-another-family-this-time-affecting-a-familiar-face/comment-page-1/#comment-1353020">Sherbet</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an AAA as well, but I belive that we, as citizens of the planet, have a responsibility to praise and nurture good works wherever we them, no matter their source. And by &#8220;good,&#8221; I mean golden rule-y, beneficial actions that make the world a better place. </p>
<p>As for how we react to cruel, vindictive and nasty actors out there? I think we have quite a toolkit here in the Bunker: Tireless, impeccable, journalistic investigation. Fearless protest from former members and never-ins. Social media persistence, and an endless well of J&amp;D to make the medicine easier to deliver.</p>
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