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	Comments on: Scientology shows no sign of slowing down its use of religious visas for foreign labor	</title>
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		By: John McGhee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McGhee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945577&quot;&gt;daisy&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh wow!! You have a great memory ; ya got me 😊]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945577">daisy</a>.</p>
<p>Oh wow!! You have a great memory ; ya got me 😊</p>
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		By: Observer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945505&quot;&gt;sizzle8&lt;/a&gt;.

SZ7]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945505">sizzle8</a>.</p>
<p>SZ7</p>
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		By: Gflded Kim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gflded Kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945597&quot;&gt;mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

I can tell. Again, so happy you escaped. Thanks for telling your story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945597">mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>I can tell. Again, so happy you escaped. Thanks for telling your story.</p>
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		By: mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1944947&quot;&gt;Gflded Kim&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks,  I have talked to so many people about it so many times I can forget that everyone here doesn&#039;t know.  

It feels like I have been out decades,  because I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours working on recovery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1944947">Gflded Kim</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks,  I have talked to so many people about it so many times I can forget that everyone here doesn&#8217;t know.  </p>
<p>It feels like I have been out decades,  because I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours working on recovery.</p>
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		By: Eivol Ekdal		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945589</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eivol Ekdal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945056&quot;&gt;Newiga&lt;/a&gt;.

Pithy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945056">Newiga</a>.</p>
<p>Pithy</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945063&quot;&gt;Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack&lt;/a&gt;.

I should also add, that Toronto is an interesting case, not just because of Gregg Haglund&#039;s work and activism, and his being subject to fair game, but because of several other insider accounts of what went on at the org as well.  Unfortunately there seems to be a dearth of current information, perhaps because there is so little activity and so few people left.  There&#039;s also quite a bit of information about Buffalo from the same period, when, though curious circumstances, it presented the opportunity to become what was perhaps the first &quot;ideal&quot; org; and more recent reports about how Denver went ideal (such as at least one prominent family cashing in significant retirement funds) and what their statistics including active membership have been since, combined with confirming information from Seattle that a lot of &quot;ideal&quot; orgs in substantial cities seem to rely on an active member base of just 50-70 people and then perhaps another 50 or so who live further afield (often where there were once active missions) or will show up for major events.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945063">Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack</a>.</p>
<p>I should also add, that Toronto is an interesting case, not just because of Gregg Haglund&#8217;s work and activism, and his being subject to fair game, but because of several other insider accounts of what went on at the org as well.  Unfortunately there seems to be a dearth of current information, perhaps because there is so little activity and so few people left.  There&#8217;s also quite a bit of information about Buffalo from the same period, when, though curious circumstances, it presented the opportunity to become what was perhaps the first &#8220;ideal&#8221; org; and more recent reports about how Denver went ideal (such as at least one prominent family cashing in significant retirement funds) and what their statistics including active membership have been since, combined with confirming information from Seattle that a lot of &#8220;ideal&#8221; orgs in substantial cities seem to rely on an active member base of just 50-70 people and then perhaps another 50 or so who live further afield (often where there were once active missions) or will show up for major events.</p>
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		By: daisy		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945577</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945042&quot;&gt;John McGhee&lt;/a&gt;.

Meant every word of it . And how could  i forget , you like fat chicks too. People like you are very  few,  No need to be humble you are worth of any praise heaped on you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945042">John McGhee</a>.</p>
<p>Meant every word of it . And how could  i forget , you like fat chicks too. People like you are very  few,  No need to be humble you are worth of any praise heaped on you</p>
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		By: sizzle8		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sizzle8]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945083&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

Which Lumix do you have?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-2/#comment-1945083">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>Which Lumix do you have?</p>
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		By: Observer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945491&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

😭😭]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945491">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>😭😭</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945481&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

*Laughing*


I honestly did read the comment without looking at who posted it because I hit the page down key, and it cut off the poster, just showing the bottom of the picture. The trolls haven&#039;t come her much any more, but my immediate thought was that it was a troll, then I checked the avatar. Meh.


You better get in lockstep, missy, or we&#039;ll toss you out of the imaginary ASC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/23/scientology-shows-no-sign-of-slowing-down-its-use-of-religious-visas-for-foreign-labor/comment-page-1/#comment-1945481">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>*Laughing*</p>
<p>I honestly did read the comment without looking at who posted it because I hit the page down key, and it cut off the poster, just showing the bottom of the picture. The trolls haven&#8217;t come her much any more, but my immediate thought was that it was a troll, then I checked the avatar. Meh.</p>
<p>You better get in lockstep, missy, or we&#8217;ll toss you out of the imaginary ASC.</p>
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