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	Comments on: Scientology subjects young children to quack therapies &#8212; now, someone is taking a stand	</title>
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		By: Jenyfurrrrr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenyfurrrrr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2017 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928996&quot;&gt;iampissed&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve taken the quick acting, but in much lower doses. I&#039;ve only taken time release 1x.  The flush didn&#039;t seem any less bad &#038; lasted longer so I just slowly worked my way up (to higher but SAFE amounts) dosage-wise in the regular. Also I seemed to get more used to it so it was less severe &#038; passed more quickly. 

It def helped w/energy but I took a fraction of what CO$ recommends, so I can&#039;t imagine how that&#039;s safe. I can see people getting a &quot;rush&quot; from the mass B vitamins &#038; attributing that to the purif, especially if they&#039;ve not consistently taken vitamins or worked on physical health before. 

PS - My daughter noticed your avatar &#038; now ALWAYS wants to &quot;read&quot; (she&#039;s 4... makes up words) your posts because you are &quot;Mi-wi-duh!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928996">iampissed</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve taken the quick acting, but in much lower doses. I&#8217;ve only taken time release 1x.  The flush didn&#8217;t seem any less bad &amp; lasted longer so I just slowly worked my way up (to higher but SAFE amounts) dosage-wise in the regular. Also I seemed to get more used to it so it was less severe &amp; passed more quickly. </p>
<p>It def helped w/energy but I took a fraction of what CO$ recommends, so I can&#8217;t imagine how that&#8217;s safe. I can see people getting a &#8220;rush&#8221; from the mass B vitamins &amp; attributing that to the purif, especially if they&#8217;ve not consistently taken vitamins or worked on physical health before. </p>
<p>PS &#8211; My daughter noticed your avatar &amp; now ALWAYS wants to &#8220;read&#8221; (she&#8217;s 4&#8230; makes up words) your posts because you are &#8220;Mi-wi-duh!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-1927761&quot;&gt;Harpoona Frittata&lt;/a&gt;.

I think they certainly deny evidence against Scientology and embrace evidence for it.

For your consideration from Shaw:
&quot;One of the reasons why many of the people who leave cultic groups choose not to identify their own experience as abusive is because to do so would mean acknowledging an extraordinary degree of grief over the loss of a cherished idealized attachment, connected to their most cherished hopes about themselves and about life. This is in addition to the unleashing of an extraordinary degree of shame about their own self-deception and gullibility, and shame and rage about the manner of abuse they were willing to endure for the sake of maintaining their tie to the leader. Eventually, the realization that their devotion and labor in the group led to no real personal growth, and to no significant contribution to society, will also become a source of deep shame and regret.&quot;

Daniel Shaw

Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation Page 51]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-1927761">Harpoona Frittata</a>.</p>
<p>I think they certainly deny evidence against Scientology and embrace evidence for it.</p>
<p>For your consideration from Shaw:<br />
&#8220;One of the reasons why many of the people who leave cultic groups choose not to identify their own experience as abusive is because to do so would mean acknowledging an extraordinary degree of grief over the loss of a cherished idealized attachment, connected to their most cherished hopes about themselves and about life. This is in addition to the unleashing of an extraordinary degree of shame about their own self-deception and gullibility, and shame and rage about the manner of abuse they were willing to endure for the sake of maintaining their tie to the leader. Eventually, the realization that their devotion and labor in the group led to no real personal growth, and to no significant contribution to society, will also become a source of deep shame and regret.&#8221;</p>
<p>Daniel Shaw</p>
<p>Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation Page 51</p>
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		By: Baby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2017 10:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1929097&quot;&gt;JaxNGold&lt;/a&gt;.

Awwww Now I want a puppy..hahhahahaha.. I bet Jax  is SO excited.. Now he&#039;s got a buddy anytime he needs one.  Frankie is sooooo cute...big brown eyes..]]></description>
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<p>Awwww Now I want a puppy..hahhahahaha.. I bet Jax  is SO excited.. Now he&#8217;s got a buddy anytime he needs one.  Frankie is sooooo cute&#8230;big brown eyes..</p>
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		By: JaxNGold		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JaxNGold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2017 05:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1929089&quot;&gt;Baby&lt;/a&gt;.

Thankfully, he&#039;s never had an accident in our bed. Jax is so cute -- every morning he wakes us up and says &quot;I&#039;m taking Frankie to the backyard to go potty.&quot; And off they go.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1929089">Baby</a>.</p>
<p>Thankfully, he&#8217;s never had an accident in our bed. Jax is so cute &#8212; every morning he wakes us up and says &#8220;I&#8217;m taking Frankie to the backyard to go potty.&#8221; And off they go.</p>
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		By: Baby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2017 04:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928727&quot;&gt;JaxNGold&lt;/a&gt;.

Awww I love snugglers..all 4 of mine love it.. When Teddy was a puppy and slept with us he had a couple of accidents in bed and I put him in a little boy diaper like band. 

If you need one I can tell you where I got it.. I can just see Jax and Frankie in the truck.. How cute!  Every child needs a dog to play with.]]></description>
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<p>Awww I love snugglers..all 4 of mine love it.. When Teddy was a puppy and slept with us he had a couple of accidents in bed and I put him in a little boy diaper like band. </p>
<p>If you need one I can tell you where I got it.. I can just see Jax and Frankie in the truck.. How cute!  Every child needs a dog to play with.</p>
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		By: iampissed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iampissed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2017 03:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928158&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrrrr&lt;/a&gt;.

Can you imagine the quick acting stuff...no just can&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928158">Jenyfurrrrr</a>.</p>
<p>Can you imagine the quick acting stuff&#8230;no just can&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2017 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928636&quot;&gt;Storm Chaser&lt;/a&gt;.

No, but many here would be interested. Let us know what you find!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928636">Storm Chaser</a>.</p>
<p>No, but many here would be interested. Let us know what you find!</p>
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		By: tigger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tigger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928647&quot;&gt;Baby&lt;/a&gt;.

:)]]></description>
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<p>🙂</p>
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		By: JaxNGold		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JaxNGold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2017 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-2/#comment-1928641&quot;&gt;Baby&lt;/a&gt;.

He&#039;s doing pretty good. Only a few &quot;accidents&quot; within the last couple weeks. But he&#039;s definitely learning. 

My son has a really big motorized fire truck and Frankie jumps in to take rides! It&#039;s too damn funny. He sleeps in between hubby &#038; I every night. Total snuggler.]]></description>
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<p>He&#8217;s doing pretty good. Only a few &#8220;accidents&#8221; within the last couple weeks. But he&#8217;s definitely learning. </p>
<p>My son has a really big motorized fire truck and Frankie jumps in to take rides! It&#8217;s too damn funny. He sleeps in between hubby &amp; I every night. Total snuggler.</p>
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		By: Elizabeth Lavet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth Lavet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2017 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/06/scientology-subjects-young-children-to-quack-therapies-now-someone-is-taking-a-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-1928047&quot;&gt;chukicita&lt;/a&gt;.

So true.]]></description>
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<p>So true.</p>
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