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	Comments on: Carol Nyburg is back, and she has a Scientology story that will rough you up	</title>
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		By: Shorpy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924829&quot;&gt;Jimmy3&lt;/a&gt;.

Hopefully the tome will have been conveyed to that magical device when that event occurs.
Sorry, but I am well into it already, and fear I have permanently assimilated the intricate speech patterns of those of that inglorious, yet erudite, age, and may never revert to the rather barbaric pedestrian colloquialism of our own.
Its really fucking good. I was expecting a dry, but fascinating, learned treatise, but it reads like a movie. 
Do you like gladiator movies Jimmy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924829">Jimmy3</a>.</p>
<p>Hopefully the tome will have been conveyed to that magical device when that event occurs.<br />
Sorry, but I am well into it already, and fear I have permanently assimilated the intricate speech patterns of those of that inglorious, yet erudite, age, and may never revert to the rather barbaric pedestrian colloquialism of our own.<br />
Its really fucking good. I was expecting a dry, but fascinating, learned treatise, but it reads like a movie.<br />
Do you like gladiator movies Jimmy?</p>
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		By: littlefish		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924890&quot;&gt;Intergalactic Walrus&lt;/a&gt;.

I 100% agree with you. I think he thinks it&#039;s unfair that Rinder has found happiness, and success and doesn&#039;t realize that it&#039;s not a piece of pie where if Rinder gets some that doesn&#039;t mean that Marty couldn&#039;t also have it. But he&#039;s saying fuck Rinder for having a slice of pie, I&#039;m gonna throw the whole thing away out of spite because he got some.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924890">Intergalactic Walrus</a>.</p>
<p>I 100% agree with you. I think he thinks it&#8217;s unfair that Rinder has found happiness, and success and doesn&#8217;t realize that it&#8217;s not a piece of pie where if Rinder gets some that doesn&#8217;t mean that Marty couldn&#8217;t also have it. But he&#8217;s saying fuck Rinder for having a slice of pie, I&#8217;m gonna throw the whole thing away out of spite because he got some.</p>
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		By: John Prince		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Prince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1925032&quot;&gt;EDN/laineybin&lt;/a&gt;.

You still get a medal of valor for enduring over 1 minute !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1925032">EDN/laineybin</a>.</p>
<p>You still get a medal of valor for enduring over 1 minute !</p>
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		By: Angelbug		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IMO, $cn members who would disconnect from their family because $cn told them too are seriously mentally ill. The family has to understand this. It may help them to continue on with their lives to know that.  Brain washing only works to a certain extent. There has to be a basic mental illness there underlying the auditing,  to paralyze the member with so much hatred or fear of their own loving family!  People usually would know right from wrong and that the disconnection policy is only a means to control and manipulate members.  Lucky for me, I never liked being told what to do. I may have to take orders at work, but no one will EVER order me as to how to live my life or take over my spiritual growth! That is so insane that these people let $cn  order them like lab rats in a maze... that they&#039;ll never get out of unless they wake up and realize that it was all a scam to make money off them or use them for menial labor..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, $cn members who would disconnect from their family because $cn told them too are seriously mentally ill. The family has to understand this. It may help them to continue on with their lives to know that.  Brain washing only works to a certain extent. There has to be a basic mental illness there underlying the auditing,  to paralyze the member with so much hatred or fear of their own loving family!  People usually would know right from wrong and that the disconnection policy is only a means to control and manipulate members.  Lucky for me, I never liked being told what to do. I may have to take orders at work, but no one will EVER order me as to how to live my life or take over my spiritual growth! That is so insane that these people let $cn  order them like lab rats in a maze&#8230; that they&#8217;ll never get out of unless they wake up and realize that it was all a scam to make money off them or use them for menial labor..</p>
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		By: iampissed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iampissed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924937&quot;&gt;Storm Chaser&lt;/a&gt;.

I am pizza agnostic same with religion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924937">Storm Chaser</a>.</p>
<p>I am pizza agnostic same with religion.</p>
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		By: Noesis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noesis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924871&quot;&gt;Jimmy3&lt;/a&gt;.

GD that is funny.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924871">Jimmy3</a>.</p>
<p>GD that is funny.</p>
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		By: Noesis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noesis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1924967&quot;&gt;Jens TINGLEFF&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Being &quot;upbeat and positive&quot; will not cut it in a high control organisation.&quot;

True - in fact the evidence is that being upbeat makes one a target.

Most of the folks that I knew that used to be upbeat have either blown or have been psychologically beaten into a different attitude.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1924967">Jens TINGLEFF</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Being &#8220;upbeat and positive&#8221; will not cut it in a high control organisation.&#8221;</p>
<p>True &#8211; in fact the evidence is that being upbeat makes one a target.</p>
<p>Most of the folks that I knew that used to be upbeat have either blown or have been psychologically beaten into a different attitude.</p>
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		By: John Prince		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Prince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I once read an open letter to Tom Cruise, posted by Tony O a while back,and I thought it was extremely well written, Honest, respectfull etc. and I admired Tony for reaching out to Tom this way..this inspired me to write my own open letter to big being #2..please bear in mind,I am not the benevolent Tony Ortega.

hey tomcat, 
have you been wondering why that has-been, washed up,bigoted looser Leah Remini&#039;s popularity just keeps blasting higher,through the Stratosphere, while your big-beingness is becomming about as popular as last week&#039;s newspaper? The reason is plain enough, Leah&#039;s telling the TRUTH about your con-poorly-disguised-as-religion, SCIENTOLOGY, schemed up by a Crook,albeit a shifty Crook named hubbard and all the horrible,disgusting things scientologists do to themselves,their Families,their Critics. People KNOW She&#039;s telling the Truth because She WAS a scientologist for a Long time,same as the People being featured on the Emmy-nominated &quot;Aftermath. .&quot; Programm. There&#039;s this thing, this phenomenon called the Internet, that lets Wogs across the Globe communicate directly with Each Other and People everywhere use it all Day, every Day and because of this,the popularity of &quot;Aftermath&quot; is catching on like Wildfire. The lowest Hollywood floor sweepers are now avoiding co$ like the Plague, pretending not to speak English if someone asks them about scientology, yet you continue to tout it as &quot;a beautiful religion&quot;,refusing to address the disconnection, fair-gaming, forced abortions and a host of other atrocities scientology perpetrates in the name of &quot;clearing the Planet&quot;, when all you&#039;re clearing are scibot&#039;s Bank Accounts. These things are all widely known these Days,tomcat. .Damm that Internet! If you were smart ,and that&#039;s a BIG if, You would distance yourself from scientology, actually should have started a long time ago,at the latest when your daughter, Suri was born,
then you could have a relationship with her,wouldn&#039;t that be cool? Do you REALLY not see scientology dying as the ASC keeps multiplying like rabbits? teenaged Sicilian rabbits in the Springtime?  Scio&#039;s reputation is radioactive and getting worse daily and yours is being dragged down with it,not that I care if you live or die,but some people around still seem to do so.You COULD still salvage a fading hollywood star career if you wanted to, tomcat, but you&#039;ll have to kick scientology. .it&#039;s up to you ,Buddy. 
Incidently, I always thought you were a ham-bone of an actor and I&#039;ve never understood all the &quot;ooohing&quot; and&quot;aaahing&quot; people have always done over you.
Write back soon, I&#039;d appreciate hearing from You,
J.D. Prince

I&#039;ll let Ya know if he gets back to me 😎]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once read an open letter to Tom Cruise, posted by Tony O a while back,and I thought it was extremely well written, Honest, respectfull etc. and I admired Tony for reaching out to Tom this way..this inspired me to write my own open letter to big being #2..please bear in mind,I am not the benevolent Tony Ortega.</p>
<p>hey tomcat,<br />
have you been wondering why that has-been, washed up,bigoted looser Leah Remini&#8217;s popularity just keeps blasting higher,through the Stratosphere, while your big-beingness is becomming about as popular as last week&#8217;s newspaper? The reason is plain enough, Leah&#8217;s telling the TRUTH about your con-poorly-disguised-as-religion, SCIENTOLOGY, schemed up by a Crook,albeit a shifty Crook named hubbard and all the horrible,disgusting things scientologists do to themselves,their Families,their Critics. People KNOW She&#8217;s telling the Truth because She WAS a scientologist for a Long time,same as the People being featured on the Emmy-nominated &#8220;Aftermath. .&#8221; Programm. There&#8217;s this thing, this phenomenon called the Internet, that lets Wogs across the Globe communicate directly with Each Other and People everywhere use it all Day, every Day and because of this,the popularity of &#8220;Aftermath&#8221; is catching on like Wildfire. The lowest Hollywood floor sweepers are now avoiding co$ like the Plague, pretending not to speak English if someone asks them about scientology, yet you continue to tout it as &#8220;a beautiful religion&#8221;,refusing to address the disconnection, fair-gaming, forced abortions and a host of other atrocities scientology perpetrates in the name of &#8220;clearing the Planet&#8221;, when all you&#8217;re clearing are scibot&#8217;s Bank Accounts. These things are all widely known these Days,tomcat. .Damm that Internet! If you were smart ,and that&#8217;s a BIG if, You would distance yourself from scientology, actually should have started a long time ago,at the latest when your daughter, Suri was born,<br />
then you could have a relationship with her,wouldn&#8217;t that be cool? Do you REALLY not see scientology dying as the ASC keeps multiplying like rabbits? teenaged Sicilian rabbits in the Springtime?  Scio&#8217;s reputation is radioactive and getting worse daily and yours is being dragged down with it,not that I care if you live or die,but some people around still seem to do so.You COULD still salvage a fading hollywood star career if you wanted to, tomcat, but you&#8217;ll have to kick scientology. .it&#8217;s up to you ,Buddy.<br />
Incidently, I always thought you were a ham-bone of an actor and I&#8217;ve never understood all the &#8220;ooohing&#8221; and&#8221;aaahing&#8221; people have always done over you.<br />
Write back soon, I&#8217;d appreciate hearing from You,<br />
J.D. Prince</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let Ya know if he gets back to me 😎</p>
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		By: OOkpik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OOkpik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1925021&quot;&gt;NOLAGirl (Stephanie)&lt;/a&gt;.

💗  💗 💗]]></description>
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<p>💗  💗 💗</p>
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		By: EDN/laineybin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EDN/laineybin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924981&quot;&gt;John Prince&lt;/a&gt;.

I know, I tried and failed miserably - made it to like 69 seconds and just couldn&#039;t do it. There&#039;s just something about the delivery that makes it hard - well, the contents just crazy too, but for some reason it&#039;s how Marty talks and phrases things that puts me off more than the drivel he&#039;s espousing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/08/02/carol-nyburg-is-back-and-she-has-a-scientology-story-that-will-rough-you-up/comment-page-2/#comment-1924981">John Prince</a>.</p>
<p>I know, I tried and failed miserably &#8211; made it to like 69 seconds and just couldn&#8217;t do it. There&#8217;s just something about the delivery that makes it hard &#8211; well, the contents just crazy too, but for some reason it&#8217;s how Marty talks and phrases things that puts me off more than the drivel he&#8217;s espousing.</p>
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