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		By: chuckbeattyxHOOEYologist75to03		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2017 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-2/#comment-1865850&quot;&gt;Nora Crest&lt;/a&gt;.

I think Marty&#039;s greatest life achievement was the IRS &quot;win&quot; he so hard worked to attain.   He&#039;s never questioned that that was a good thing, even in his third book.   I think it wise to presume that OSA has had, and will have, a &quot;Marty Handling Program&quot; for the rest of his life, and that program sought out his buttons, and his main point of agreement with Scientology is that IRS &quot;win&quot; and that he&#039;s &quot;on board&quot; again, likely with the Scientology lawyer who seems to be the interviewer, and would understand &quot;Marty&#039;s button&quot; of self importance and his achievement attaining Scientology&#039;s IRS tax settlement and religious tax exemption.   Marty&#039;s biggest hurdle, for himself, and what will take like a decade or two to erode, is his high regard for that work he achieved getting that tax exemption.    I just hope he hasn&#039;t completely boxed himself off from ever revealing any fruitful material relating to the IRS failing to learn some relevant facts that might have jeopardized and prevented the IRS giving the Scientology religious tax settlement exemption.   

Marty&#039;s biggest threat to Scientology, is that, if he ever comes around and has the longer range change of heart on the rightness of what he worked to achieve.   

That&#039;s his biggest threat, somehow helping precipitate the IRS tax win, and he even scathingly in one of the videos disses the ABC TV person who was going to interview him, saying that all that TV guy wanted was the Marty inner goods on how that Tax exemption settlement had some flaws.

Those flaws may come to Marty&#039;s mind, some day, and I hope if they do, he reveals them in a timely fashion.

I think his own &quot;stuck in a win&quot; accomplishment and his whole decades long career as top man fixer, blinds him, due to the ruts its caused in his brain.

It takes a long time to sort through the big historical &quot;facts.&quot;

Scientology is a quackery outfit parading as a religion.   Hubbard admitted failure and ordered a suicide Emeter to suicide himself at the end of his life.

Marty nonstop is dissing the Wright book and the &quot;Going Clear....&quot; movie that has the blockbuster LIVE Sarge interview, with the most damaging Hubbard final admission material.

I think &quot;they&quot; (OSA plan, Miscavige&#039;s &quot;handling of Marty&quot; plan which I presume has been something they&#039;ve been working on for years), is get Marty back on board to what he agrees with, the IRS win, and diss the Wright book and movie, to deflect off of the most damaging new history in that book, the final pages, the Sarge interview, which undercuts the validity of the whole damned Scientology subject.  

 Hubbard in end, as told in the Wright book final pages and as filmed in the movie, we get the firsthand story from Hubbard&#039;s close friend and worker Sarge, we hear of Hubbard&#039;s end of life despair and LRH&#039;s admitted failure. Sarge built a suicide Emeter for Hubbard, and Hubbard melted that suicide Emeter thinking he&#039;d off himself.

That&#039;s what Marty&#039;s been &quot;Handling Program&quot; handled to try to diss!

Hubbard was nuts, thought he&#039;d failed at all of it, and asked for a suicide Emeter to kill himself.

That is devastating NEW history in Wright&#039;s book and the movie!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-2/#comment-1865850">Nora Crest</a>.</p>
<p>I think Marty&#8217;s greatest life achievement was the IRS &#8220;win&#8221; he so hard worked to attain.   He&#8217;s never questioned that that was a good thing, even in his third book.   I think it wise to presume that OSA has had, and will have, a &#8220;Marty Handling Program&#8221; for the rest of his life, and that program sought out his buttons, and his main point of agreement with Scientology is that IRS &#8220;win&#8221; and that he&#8217;s &#8220;on board&#8221; again, likely with the Scientology lawyer who seems to be the interviewer, and would understand &#8220;Marty&#8217;s button&#8221; of self importance and his achievement attaining Scientology&#8217;s IRS tax settlement and religious tax exemption.   Marty&#8217;s biggest hurdle, for himself, and what will take like a decade or two to erode, is his high regard for that work he achieved getting that tax exemption.    I just hope he hasn&#8217;t completely boxed himself off from ever revealing any fruitful material relating to the IRS failing to learn some relevant facts that might have jeopardized and prevented the IRS giving the Scientology religious tax settlement exemption.   </p>
<p>Marty&#8217;s biggest threat to Scientology, is that, if he ever comes around and has the longer range change of heart on the rightness of what he worked to achieve.   </p>
<p>That&#8217;s his biggest threat, somehow helping precipitate the IRS tax win, and he even scathingly in one of the videos disses the ABC TV person who was going to interview him, saying that all that TV guy wanted was the Marty inner goods on how that Tax exemption settlement had some flaws.</p>
<p>Those flaws may come to Marty&#8217;s mind, some day, and I hope if they do, he reveals them in a timely fashion.</p>
<p>I think his own &#8220;stuck in a win&#8221; accomplishment and his whole decades long career as top man fixer, blinds him, due to the ruts its caused in his brain.</p>
<p>It takes a long time to sort through the big historical &#8220;facts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scientology is a quackery outfit parading as a religion.   Hubbard admitted failure and ordered a suicide Emeter to suicide himself at the end of his life.</p>
<p>Marty nonstop is dissing the Wright book and the &#8220;Going Clear&#8230;.&#8221; movie that has the blockbuster LIVE Sarge interview, with the most damaging Hubbard final admission material.</p>
<p>I think &#8220;they&#8221; (OSA plan, Miscavige&#8217;s &#8220;handling of Marty&#8221; plan which I presume has been something they&#8217;ve been working on for years), is get Marty back on board to what he agrees with, the IRS win, and diss the Wright book and movie, to deflect off of the most damaging new history in that book, the final pages, the Sarge interview, which undercuts the validity of the whole damned Scientology subject.  </p>
<p> Hubbard in end, as told in the Wright book final pages and as filmed in the movie, we get the firsthand story from Hubbard&#8217;s close friend and worker Sarge, we hear of Hubbard&#8217;s end of life despair and LRH&#8217;s admitted failure. Sarge built a suicide Emeter for Hubbard, and Hubbard melted that suicide Emeter thinking he&#8217;d off himself.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what Marty&#8217;s been &#8220;Handling Program&#8221; handled to try to diss!</p>
<p>Hubbard was nuts, thought he&#8217;d failed at all of it, and asked for a suicide Emeter to kill himself.</p>
<p>That is devastating NEW history in Wright&#8217;s book and the movie!</p>
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		By: FredEX2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2017 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-2/#comment-1870770&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrrrr&lt;/a&gt;.

Ill look forward to hearing from you! 😘]]></description>
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<p>Ill look forward to hearing from you! 😘</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrrrr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-2/#comment-1866610&quot;&gt;FredEX2&lt;/a&gt;.

Fred - I got the info from Kim. SO sorry I didn&#039;t get a chance today... last day of school for my daughter, then met w/her psychologist afterwards about her summer program (she&#039;s on the spectrum &#038; qualified for a 1 month summer program to help w/her speech &#038; kinder-preparedness) and before I knew it, it was late for me and def for you! I&#039;ll touch base tomorrow afternoon if that&#039;s ok?
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Definitely keeping you &#038; your &quot;stuff&quot; in my prayers today &#038; tonight so it was neat to get the msg from Kim right after I&#039;d thought of you &#038; said my prayers this AM! 😋]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-2/#comment-1866610">FredEX2</a>.</p>
<p>Fred &#8211; I got the info from Kim. SO sorry I didn&#8217;t get a chance today&#8230; last day of school for my daughter, then met w/her psychologist afterwards about her summer program (she&#8217;s on the spectrum &amp; qualified for a 1 month summer program to help w/her speech &amp; kinder-preparedness) and before I knew it, it was late for me and def for you! I&#8217;ll touch base tomorrow afternoon if that&#8217;s ok?<br />
😘<br />
Definitely keeping you &amp; your &#8220;stuff&#8221; in my prayers today &amp; tonight so it was neat to get the msg from Kim right after I&#8217;d thought of you &amp; said my prayers this AM! 😋</p>
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		By: Peter Meier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-1/#comment-1865442&quot;&gt;TonyOrtega&lt;/a&gt;.

I would stop nattering at this pedophile hubbard, would take 2 Million Dollars and run ;-) like rathbun. 

Unfortunately i didnot get any offer of this sum from DM. Only blackmailing that they steal my kids. What they did one year later. ;-(  

 But anyway: the life is better every day since i am out of the most evil cult after salafists. :-))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-1/#comment-1865442">TonyOrtega</a>.</p>
<p>I would stop nattering at this pedophile hubbard, would take 2 Million Dollars and run 😉 like rathbun. </p>
<p>Unfortunately i didnot get any offer of this sum from DM. Only blackmailing that they steal my kids. What they did one year later. ;-(  </p>
<p> But anyway: the life is better every day since i am out of the most evil cult after salafists. :-))</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 10:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-1/#comment-1867736&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

*Laughing*]]></description>
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<p>*Laughing*</p>
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		By: Spackle Motion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see that hair dressing was not an important function or priority for this photo shoot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that hair dressing was not an important function or priority for this photo shoot.</p>
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		By: mockingbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-1/#comment-1865535&quot;&gt;TonyOrtega&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey!  I resemble that remark  ! Seriously,  just tell us already  ! ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-1/#comment-1865535">TonyOrtega</a>.</p>
<p>Hey!  I resemble that remark  ! Seriously,  just tell us already  ! </p>
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		By: mockingbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-1/#comment-1865442&quot;&gt;TonyOrtega&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know if you remember but I carefully read Marty Rathbun&#039;s attack on Ron Miscavige and realized after taking apart each sentence that Marty was in fact attacking Ron and defending David.

I could see no other plausible explanation.  I had to very carefully look at each sentence to accept the full reality of his turn. 

If you hadn&#039;t pointed it out I might not have looked hard enough and believed  it. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-1/#comment-1865442">TonyOrtega</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you remember but I carefully read Marty Rathbun&#8217;s attack on Ron Miscavige and realized after taking apart each sentence that Marty was in fact attacking Ron and defending David.</p>
<p>I could see no other plausible explanation.  I had to very carefully look at each sentence to accept the full reality of his turn. </p>
<p>If you hadn&#8217;t pointed it out I might not have looked hard enough and believed  it. </p>
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		By: EmmaDaoust		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/13/photos-shot-by-l-ron-hubbard-in-1975-capture-how-the-founder-wanted-scientology-marketed/comment-page-1/#comment-1867745&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

Mon dieu, is she still around?]]></description>
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<p>Mon dieu, is she still around?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 00:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i just saw all the old 70&#039;s pictures!!! Oh my Heavens!  The &quot;wasband &#038; I dressed like that! Yikes!...He got me to join in 1977. We were married that year.  I was in love.   It was post hippy time! Anyway; it really is unbelievable seeing these very corny photos &#038; the back grounds! So Cheesy!   I do remember the book: &quot;The Volunteer Minister&#039;s Handbook &quot; had similar photo lay outs, and scenes! VERY WEIRD!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just saw all the old 70&#8217;s pictures!!! Oh my Heavens!  The &#8220;wasband &amp; I dressed like that! Yikes!&#8230;He got me to join in 1977. We were married that year.  I was in love.   It was post hippy time! Anyway; it really is unbelievable seeing these very corny photos &amp; the back grounds! So Cheesy!   I do remember the book: &#8220;The Volunteer Minister&#8217;s Handbook &#8221; had similar photo lay outs, and scenes! VERY WEIRD!</p>
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