An that’s the central problem with speculation about distant history making us the way we are. When you get specific you need a time machine to gather evidence.

I was never in the Cult and have no desire ever to be in it. I’ve done the Study Hat, which a never-in lawyer friend gave to me in a brown manila envelope and told me to try out. It worked for me. I’ve given it to others, but of course this was quite a few years ago when the Study Hat wasn’t available online in its entirety, and I decided to write a book on it (netted me high four figures, so it was a good call as per “make money, make more money, make others produce so as to make more money”). The Study Hat I truly love as a course and that alone (plus LRH fiction) makes me think the man’s works in total aren’t WHOLLY a discredit to this planet.

Some of the rundowns are good therapy. Had a look at the Super Power list, tried thinking about and answering
the questions on the first checksheet, I felt my stress levels go up and down as I had a few cogs. Mind, I tend to find that Scn processes can cause you to get MORE stressed in the short term because the real cog, the one that’ll make the needle swing like mad* is the one that YOU are cause of all these issues. Of course, eventually you get a rather euphoric feeling as this cog leads to one that’s along the lines of “if I’m cause of my problems in life and contributory cause of others’, that must mean I’m also cause of the respective solutions”. Dianetics I don’t think is bad either. Sure, the actual cellular mechanics of memory as postulated by LRH have been roundly debunked by science, and that’s one thing neurology is good at, but mainstream science at this point has three approaches to the actual remediation of brain disorders and improvement of Man generally. A) the psychiatric/hard science approach: fling pills at it until the problem goes away as long as the pills are taken. This is not a solution. B) behaviourism/social science style, à la BF Skinner; I don’t like to be treated like a monkey. C) The talking cure (also in the realm of social science) as popularised by Freud, Jung, Hubbard, et al. This is a better solution for the patient/preclear/client who is broadly sane but functioning at a pessimal level.

I’ve had some official (non-cult, but by-the-book) dianetic auditing; it’s a white-taped route out of a crevasse, just as Freud white-taped a workable but imperfect route out, and Jung did as well. Some people may prefer Freud, some Jung, some Hubbard. I like Jung but I have a feeling Freud should have stuck with the e-meter (he did try it and was impressed but the state of electronics at the time was… well, this was 1890-1930 or thereabouts, so you can imagine). He’d probably have discovered what Hubbard/Scn legitimately discovered (the phenomena of the floating needle, rock-slam, etc) if he had. The electric psychometer, galvanic psychometer, psycho-galvanometer, galvanic skin response meter, etc etc etc is an instrument (and it is “an” instrument, but with no actual accepted terminology for it**, making buying one a hassle!) that SERIOUSLY improves the practice of psychotherapy/clearing in all its forms. It cuts down on time walking down avenues leading to nowhere. This saves the preclear/client money and saves the therapist/auditor hair-pulling. NOTE: I’ve had non-Scieno therapists who used the meter and broadly Scieno auditors who didn’t.

*This is a metaphor. I have an el-cheapo digital “galvanic psychometer” purchased for non-Scn self-actualising therapy. It has the same workings as an e-meter but a digital readout rather than a needle and finger pads instead of cans. The whole thing fits in a shirt pocket.

** I prefer electric psychometer, as all parts of this designation are Greek (elektron, amber/electricity; psyche, butterfly/the mind; metron, to measure) or mental galvanometer, as it’s fully Latin. I don’t like Greek/Latin blends. Most of all hate the words “automobile” and “television” for this reason, especially the latter. Galvani is an Italian personal name like Freud is a German one (means “cheerful” or “lucky” of all things!) or Hubbard an English one, and even though a galvanic skin response meter does directly measure the galvanic skin response, it indirectly measures the MIND or thetan, and as this is the sine qua non of the device, it should make it into the name.

I think I have little faith in political ideologies, especially ones claiming to be proven. Certainty in politics of simple sweeping truths is alarming.

I think at some point enough evidence has to be gathered to support or refute claims.

Obviously if one cherry picked unprovable hypothesis they can claim anything.

I think solid evidence needs to be found to support an idea. If one relied entirely upon a hypothetical situation to “prove” an idea it is not much proof.

I agree. It did.

What I’m saying is, different. I’m saying that giving imaginary examples from our past does not ‘explain’ our present because they cannot be verified. This is done by many evolutionary psychologists who are telling Just So stories to support their pet theories.

I think if evolution is genuine then it must play a role in the development of human psychology. To ignore it is leaving out an important aspect of our development which got is here.

Ok (whew!) finally found it!
Actually someone else mentioned this show in today’s post and it clicked!
In this, he uses the term ‘glassy eyed’.
Marty’s point is that he had to escape the Hole before he was turned into one of these glassy eyed folks.
Relevant part starts at around the 13:00 minute mark
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c-RVYHpQDqE

Good to meet you. In The Sea Org, Never Laugh at or make jokes about Ron, Ever. I do not know David’s MO in this area, but from my experience in this life, Laughter about Ron or about anything saves me and helps me heal. I know what Ron was but to completely saw through the chains of mind control that Scientology brings to their dead table, laughing at Ron helped me break totally free of him and his cult. Does this make any sense for you? Thank you for caring about the children. Scientology does not care about the littlest ones. ❤️💔

Kim, I went through years of heat flash waves, now those are all gone & @ 65 I now have the great honor to enjoy Cold Chills or the Frozen blanket that makes me wear long sleeves when all in Baton Rouge wear tank tops! The AC in stores etc is also freezing so I have been where you are and now I can cheerfully say, I’m an old crone, so I have the Big Cane Lol wishing all @ HowdyCon laughter, light and Love.❤️