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	Comments on: Federal judge urged to ignore Scientology whining and get on with arbitration disaster	</title>
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		By: mockingbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-1860790&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

I wish Ireland,  Scotland,  Wales etc. had full independence btw.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-1860790">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>I wish Ireland,  Scotland,  Wales etc. had full independence btw.</p>
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		By: Philbyification		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philbyification]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1860324&quot;&gt;Juicer77&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Juicer!]]></description>
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<p>Thanks Juicer!</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gus Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-1860826&quot;&gt;Dice シ&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, no, it&#039;s very important to post!  And thanks for the transcripts - reading it beats the hell out of having to listen to that wanker lol!  In that way, I suppose Zegel was just like LRH ha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-1860826">Dice シ</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, no, it&#8217;s very important to post!  And thanks for the transcripts &#8211; reading it beats the hell out of having to listen to that wanker lol!  In that way, I suppose Zegel was just like LRH ha.</p>
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		By: Storm Chaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Storm Chaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1859927&quot;&gt;MarcabExpat&lt;/a&gt;.

Comey in 2020! 

Btw, that was the same shrug the Diamondback&#039;s gave in response to McCain&#039;s tweet that it was their &quot;night games&quot;, that had him so incoherent at the Senate IC hearing... lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1859927">MarcabExpat</a>.</p>
<p>Comey in 2020! </p>
<p>Btw, that was the same shrug the Diamondback&#8217;s gave in response to McCain&#8217;s tweet that it was their &#8220;night games&#8221;, that had him so incoherent at the Senate IC hearing&#8230; lol</p>
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		By: Storm Chaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Storm Chaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1859996&quot;&gt;MarcabExpat&lt;/a&gt;.

McCain has been an embarrassment to the people of AZ for awhile now... much like Joe Arpaio was.  We finally got a new county sheriff, but sadly McCain&#039;s still our senator.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1859996">MarcabExpat</a>.</p>
<p>McCain has been an embarrassment to the people of AZ for awhile now&#8230; much like Joe Arpaio was.  We finally got a new county sheriff, but sadly McCain&#8217;s still our senator.</p>
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		By: Storm Chaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Storm Chaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1861715&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s a good theory considering Rathbun&#039;s arrogance, but it doesn&#039;t explain these videos.  If the title of his last book is yet another indication, he still thinks of himself as a &quot;Scientology Warrior&quot;.  I&#039;m also pretty sure Marty knew that what he did to the attorneys would be illegal if he obtained an outside settlement directly from the CofS.  I hope the firm is pursuing at least collection of the amounts owed for the work that was done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1861715">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good theory considering Rathbun&#8217;s arrogance, but it doesn&#8217;t explain these videos.  If the title of his last book is yet another indication, he still thinks of himself as a &#8220;Scientology Warrior&#8221;.  I&#8217;m also pretty sure Marty knew that what he did to the attorneys would be illegal if he obtained an outside settlement directly from the CofS.  I hope the firm is pursuing at least collection of the amounts owed for the work that was done.</p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1861682&quot;&gt;Storm Chaser&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I don&#039;t think Marty would do that without some assurances from DM. &quot;  My theory is that he did that stupidly, without understanding that firing his lawyers would make it impossible to keep fighting the suit, and not understanding that dropping the suit made the TRO dissolve.
&quot;How does money put Marty back in trouble?&quot;  Because then he has committed fraud against his lawyers.
&quot;Marty may be arrogant and a bully, but he doesn&#039;t appear stupid.&quot;  This is where I disagree with you.  He thinks he knows more about the law than the lawyers, more about war than generals, more about physics than scientists, you name it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1861682">Storm Chaser</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think Marty would do that without some assurances from DM. &#8221;  My theory is that he did that stupidly, without understanding that firing his lawyers would make it impossible to keep fighting the suit, and not understanding that dropping the suit made the TRO dissolve.<br />
&#8220;How does money put Marty back in trouble?&#8221;  Because then he has committed fraud against his lawyers.<br />
&#8220;Marty may be arrogant and a bully, but he doesn&#8217;t appear stupid.&#8221;  This is where I disagree with you.  He thinks he knows more about the law than the lawyers, more about war than generals, more about physics than scientists, you name it.</p>
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		By: Storm Chaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Storm Chaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1860924&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly because dropping the TRO does make Marty &#038; family vulnerable to being hounded by the CofS.   I don&#039;t think Marty would do that without some assurances from DM.   How does money put Marty back in trouble?  Marty strikes me as the kind of person who always looks out for his best interests both inside &#038; outside of  &quot;the church&quot;.  I don&#039;t think he &#038;  his wife would have just dropped the suit (especially how &#038; when it was done - burning his attorneys like that was shameful), without there being some behind the scenes financial incentive or agreement with DM to do so.  Just my opinion based on everything I&#039;ve read/seen about the situation. Unless I&#039;m missing something, it just doesn&#039;t pass the sniff test. Marty may be arrogant and a bully, but he doesn&#039;t appear stupid. He strikes me as a man with a lot of secrets and something to hide... much like DM does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1860924">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly because dropping the TRO does make Marty &amp; family vulnerable to being hounded by the CofS.   I don&#8217;t think Marty would do that without some assurances from DM.   How does money put Marty back in trouble?  Marty strikes me as the kind of person who always looks out for his best interests both inside &amp; outside of  &#8220;the church&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t think he &amp;  his wife would have just dropped the suit (especially how &amp; when it was done &#8211; burning his attorneys like that was shameful), without there being some behind the scenes financial incentive or agreement with DM to do so.  Just my opinion based on everything I&#8217;ve read/seen about the situation. Unless I&#8217;m missing something, it just doesn&#8217;t pass the sniff test. Marty may be arrogant and a bully, but he doesn&#8217;t appear stupid. He strikes me as a man with a lot of secrets and something to hide&#8230; much like DM does.</p>
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		By: Juicer77		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juicer77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-1860930&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah! TY]]></description>
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<p>Ah! TY</p>
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		By: Noallball		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noallball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 19:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/08/federal-judge-urged-to-ignore-scientology-whining-and-get-on-with-arbitration-disaster/comment-page-2/#comment-1860631&quot;&gt;PattyCakenfeld&lt;/a&gt;.

BB, thanks very much for the address. Saved me a lot of time and bother. Hats off (so to speak) to you.]]></description>
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<p>BB, thanks very much for the address. Saved me a lot of time and bother. Hats off (so to speak) to you.</p>
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