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	Comments on: Scientologist&#8217;s lawsuit against Jim Carrey over Cat White&#8217;s suicide survives dismissal	</title>
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		By: WhatAreYourCrimes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology... if you hear that word and discover somebody you know is a scientologist, well get the hell out of Dodge...  if you don&#039;t, you are going to enter a twisted world of bizarre situations and lunatic relationships.  And the further you go into it, the more psychotic it gets, like getting sucked into a black hole. 

Scientology is just a labyrinth of insanity and human misery.  I bet Jim Carrey understands this fact by now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology&#8230; if you hear that word and discover somebody you know is a scientologist, well get the hell out of Dodge&#8230;  if you don&#8217;t, you are going to enter a twisted world of bizarre situations and lunatic relationships.  And the further you go into it, the more psychotic it gets, like getting sucked into a black hole. </p>
<p>Scientology is just a labyrinth of insanity and human misery.  I bet Jim Carrey understands this fact by now.</p>
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		By: madame duran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[madame duran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1855022&quot;&gt;Greenegirl&lt;/a&gt;.

What exactly are you criticizing in Tony Ortega&#039;s report on this case?  Let&#039;s review the points in your original post:

- was it for bringing up Cathriona&#039;s link to Scientology (&quot;putting a Scientology spin&quot; is your quote)?
- was it for reminding readers about his news scoop concerning Cathriona&#039;s attempt to get a green card through false means?
- was it for using an exclamation mark (&quot;a la The National Enquirer&quot; and other tabloids was your comparison)?
- was it for reporting the sexual details that were publicized by other media sources?

Apparently, your main beefs with Tony are a) his lack of professionalism and b) sensationalism.  So the news story itself isn&#039;t a problem but you&#039;re criticizing HOW it was reported by Tony.  Would that be fair to say?

I find your criticisms to be quite MINOR in nature.  It isn&#039;t a breach of ethical journalism to promote exclusive news scoops nor is it sensationalist to use exclamation marks.  I&#039;ve already explained that the sexual details were first revealed by Cathriona&#039;s own mom and husband-of-convenience; they weren&#039;t leaked by Tony nor were they the prime focus of his reporting.  As for the Scientology link to the story, it is far from irrelevant as it relates to the question of causation and the circumstances that led to Cat&#039;s suicide.  The plaintiffs in the court case allege that it was Jim Carrey&#039;s fault; Tony&#039;s report indicates that there were other possible reasons that led to her demise.  How is such a claim irresponsible or nonsensical?

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Whether you are or are not a Scientologist, I have no idea.  Regardless, you are still free to post your opinions, criticisms and disagreements here--even if they&#039;re targeting Tony (a privilege that Scientology will NOT allow for its own membership to exercise against the organization and its leadership).  

I happen to think your grievances lack substance and are even laughable because they&#039;re so trivial.  Seems to me that you view the Scientology connection as a distraction and want to &quot;call out&quot; Ortega for persistently pursuing that angle.  Trying to downplay or cover up the existence of a Scientology link to Cathriona&#039;s story is something a Scientology sympathizer would do.  I&#039;m also aware of the ongoing &quot;Underground Bunker is a cult!&quot; narrative that some online commentators wish to push.  Here are traits of the Bunker that you won&#039;t find in cults: open-mindedness, questioning, dissent, critical thinking, diversity of thought, requests for and the offering of objective proof to back up claims.  Oh, and humour.  Lots and lots of it.  If it appears that we &quot;worship&quot; Tony, it really is because we highly respect his research skills as a journalist.  Doesn&#039;t stop us from voicing disagreement with him or correcting his occasional spelling errors (side note: seriously, Tony?  &quot;Sorded&quot;, not &quot;sordid&quot;?  Ugh.  Proof that you aren&#039;t a god).  The very fact that you aren&#039;t being obstructed from posting your criticism here is evidence of the freedom you won&#039;t find in a cult-controlled environment.

Excuse me while I chuckle at the your attempt to fashion yourself as a media watchdog and free speech advocate/martyr.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1855022">Greenegirl</a>.</p>
<p>What exactly are you criticizing in Tony Ortega&#8217;s report on this case?  Let&#8217;s review the points in your original post:</p>
<p>&#8211; was it for bringing up Cathriona&#8217;s link to Scientology (&#8220;putting a Scientology spin&#8221; is your quote)?<br />
&#8211; was it for reminding readers about his news scoop concerning Cathriona&#8217;s attempt to get a green card through false means?<br />
&#8211; was it for using an exclamation mark (&#8220;a la The National Enquirer&#8221; and other tabloids was your comparison)?<br />
&#8211; was it for reporting the sexual details that were publicized by other media sources?</p>
<p>Apparently, your main beefs with Tony are a) his lack of professionalism and b) sensationalism.  So the news story itself isn&#8217;t a problem but you&#8217;re criticizing HOW it was reported by Tony.  Would that be fair to say?</p>
<p>I find your criticisms to be quite MINOR in nature.  It isn&#8217;t a breach of ethical journalism to promote exclusive news scoops nor is it sensationalist to use exclamation marks.  I&#8217;ve already explained that the sexual details were first revealed by Cathriona&#8217;s own mom and husband-of-convenience; they weren&#8217;t leaked by Tony nor were they the prime focus of his reporting.  As for the Scientology link to the story, it is far from irrelevant as it relates to the question of causation and the circumstances that led to Cat&#8217;s suicide.  The plaintiffs in the court case allege that it was Jim Carrey&#8217;s fault; Tony&#8217;s report indicates that there were other possible reasons that led to her demise.  How is such a claim irresponsible or nonsensical?</p>
<p>=======</p>
<p>Whether you are or are not a Scientologist, I have no idea.  Regardless, you are still free to post your opinions, criticisms and disagreements here&#8211;even if they&#8217;re targeting Tony (a privilege that Scientology will NOT allow for its own membership to exercise against the organization and its leadership).  </p>
<p>I happen to think your grievances lack substance and are even laughable because they&#8217;re so trivial.  Seems to me that you view the Scientology connection as a distraction and want to &#8220;call out&#8221; Ortega for persistently pursuing that angle.  Trying to downplay or cover up the existence of a Scientology link to Cathriona&#8217;s story is something a Scientology sympathizer would do.  I&#8217;m also aware of the ongoing &#8220;Underground Bunker is a cult!&#8221; narrative that some online commentators wish to push.  Here are traits of the Bunker that you won&#8217;t find in cults: open-mindedness, questioning, dissent, critical thinking, diversity of thought, requests for and the offering of objective proof to back up claims.  Oh, and humour.  Lots and lots of it.  If it appears that we &#8220;worship&#8221; Tony, it really is because we highly respect his research skills as a journalist.  Doesn&#8217;t stop us from voicing disagreement with him or correcting his occasional spelling errors (side note: seriously, Tony?  &#8220;Sorded&#8221;, not &#8220;sordid&#8221;?  Ugh.  Proof that you aren&#8217;t a god).  The very fact that you aren&#8217;t being obstructed from posting your criticism here is evidence of the freedom you won&#8217;t find in a cult-controlled environment.</p>
<p>Excuse me while I chuckle at the your attempt to fashion yourself as a media watchdog and free speech advocate/martyr.</p>
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		By: Supper Powers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Supper Powers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1855112&quot;&gt;daisy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you. Weekends suck for me. I&#039;m the only person I know who looks forward to Mondays. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1855112">daisy</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you. Weekends suck for me. I&#8217;m the only person I know who looks forward to Mondays. </p>
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		By: daisy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854226&quot;&gt;Supper Powers&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope next week is better and the sadz are temporary]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854226">Supper Powers</a>.</p>
<p>I hope next week is better and the sadz are temporary</p>
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		By: Greenegirl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greenegirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 05:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854264&quot;&gt;madame duran&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, no, my comment could not have been summarized with your assumption. 

It is nice to know that there are people on this site who will sarcastically and erroneously accuse someone of sympathizing with Scientology if they deign to disagree with or criticize the author. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854264">madame duran</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, no, my comment could not have been summarized with your assumption. </p>
<p>It is nice to know that there are people on this site who will sarcastically and erroneously accuse someone of sympathizing with Scientology if they deign to disagree with or criticize the author. </p>
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		By: Jenyfurrrrr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenyfurrrrr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 03:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854972&quot;&gt;Wayne Borean&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah I was actually bummed to hear that because I&#039;d been a fan since his WAY back days on Mad TV, so for some reason I&#039;d hoped or thought he&#039;d be a nicer guy IRL. 
At least there are a few out there that are known for being nice people and treating all crew respectfully, etc. That stuff just isn&#039;t newsworthy. 😜]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854972">Wayne Borean</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah I was actually bummed to hear that because I&#8217;d been a fan since his WAY back days on Mad TV, so for some reason I&#8217;d hoped or thought he&#8217;d be a nicer guy IRL.<br />
At least there are a few out there that are known for being nice people and treating all crew respectfully, etc. That stuff just isn&#8217;t newsworthy. 😜</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrrrr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenyfurrrrr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854984&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol! True that! They ❤️&#039;d you! Especially my little guy! He was so confused when the hubby came in &#038; you weren&#039;t with him - he kept looking out the window trying to figure out why you didn&#039;t come back in too. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854984">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>Lol! True that! They ❤️&#8217;d you! Especially my little guy! He was so confused when the hubby came in &amp; you weren&#8217;t with him &#8211; he kept looking out the window trying to figure out why you didn&#8217;t come back in too. </p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854888&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrrrr&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m used to kid wrangling. When you get to leave them, it&#039;s a lot easier.  :-)]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m used to kid wrangling. When you get to leave them, it&#8217;s a lot easier.  🙂</p>
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		By: Wayne Borean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Borean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1853915&quot;&gt;Chee Chalker&lt;/a&gt;.

The odds are that some of them are  SPs now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1853915">Chee Chalker</a>.</p>
<p>The odds are that some of them are  SPs now.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Borean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854135&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrrrr&lt;/a&gt;.

I know nothing about him off camera, but a star being an ass is nothing new. Which is depressing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/06/02/scientologists-lawsuit-against-jim-carrey-over-cat-whites-suicide-survives-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-1854135">Jenyfurrrrr</a>.</p>
<p>I know nothing about him off camera, but a star being an ass is nothing new. Which is depressing.</p>
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