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	Comments on: Confirmation of the 2009 FBI trafficking probe of Scientology that the church denied	</title>
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		By: chukicita		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chukicita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 12:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1825965&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re right about Benny Hinn.  Thing is, the IRS doesn&#039;t have to be the lone agency questioning Scientology&#039;s right to rip people off.  Every state&#039;s division of consumer services.  Local officials. District courts. A thousand paper cuts, or a million butterfly bites.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1825965">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about Benny Hinn.  Thing is, the IRS doesn&#8217;t have to be the lone agency questioning Scientology&#8217;s right to rip people off.  Every state&#8217;s division of consumer services.  Local officials. District courts. A thousand paper cuts, or a million butterfly bites.</p>
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		By: Bert Allen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bert Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 10:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait to see more about this case.  There was another FBI/IRS investigation of the COS back in the early 1990s that some enterprising journalist might want to do FOIA requests on.  It started with an allegation that a California judge in LA hearing a COS copyright infringement case against David Mayo was extorted by the COS and developed a lot of information of OSA operations against opposing attorneys.  The initial allegation was never sufficiently proved to move forward with a referral to the US Attorney&#039;s office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see more about this case.  There was another FBI/IRS investigation of the COS back in the early 1990s that some enterprising journalist might want to do FOIA requests on.  It started with an allegation that a California judge in LA hearing a COS copyright infringement case against David Mayo was extorted by the COS and developed a lot of information of OSA operations against opposing attorneys.  The initial allegation was never sufficiently proved to move forward with a referral to the US Attorney&#8217;s office.</p>
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		By: dreamcatcher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dreamcatcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 08:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and of course, as expected...... https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/644e317af76394b680ad2d34ff98e27a475fd332e656aa2a75290982d2c8aa74.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and of course, as expected&#8230;&#8230; <a href="https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/644e317af76394b680ad2d34ff98e27a475fd332e656aa2a75290982d2c8aa74.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/644e317af76394b680ad2d34ff98e27a475fd332e656aa2a75290982d2c8aa74.jpg</a></p>
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		By: WhatAreYourCrimes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhatAreYourCrimes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh man, that noose is tightening on the leadership of scientology, isn&#039;t it?

To all current-in scientologists, bail on it before it is too late, or offer up evidence to get you off the hook.  The FBI will treat you well, as whistle blowers.  

This &quot;Free Winds&quot; Titanic vessel is going down, so you better find a life jacket.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, that noose is tightening on the leadership of scientology, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>To all current-in scientologists, bail on it before it is too late, or offer up evidence to get you off the hook.  The FBI will treat you well, as whistle blowers.  </p>
<p>This &#8220;Free Winds&#8221; Titanic vessel is going down, so you better find a life jacket.</p>
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		By: AngryNotSoOldHippy .		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AngryNotSoOldHippy .]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gee, I wonder how many &lt;b&gt;&quot;human rights advocacy groups&quot;&lt;/b&gt; get Federal agencies planning no-knock armed raids against them to free people being held against their will, kidnapping, and human trafficking. 

Let me count them all...

1: Scientology]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I wonder how many <b>&#8220;human rights advocacy groups&#8221;</b> get Federal agencies planning no-knock armed raids against them to free people being held against their will, kidnapping, and human trafficking. </p>
<p>Let me count them all&#8230;</p>
<p>1: Scientology</p>
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		By: EricS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EricS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1826079&quot;&gt;picketflag247&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah.  Scientology will give you God-like powers but you mustn&#039;t ever use them.  

The Suppressives of the universe are just waiting for anyone to demonstrate any real power, and then BAM! you&#039;re vaporized.  Don&#039;t be getting all stupid and blowing the whole game for all of the rest of us.  Let them laugh at you for now.  When there are enough of us, and we are strong enough, we will make our move and take over the whole show.  And believe me...  that time IS coming, in fact the technology is already in place, and if you do EXACTLY what I say, without question, we will succeed! 

Gee mommy,  Hubbard really is evil...  When are the good guys going to come to the rescue?
We&#039;ll see..  Go to sleep now honey,  I will read some more tomorrow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1826079">picketflag247</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah.  Scientology will give you God-like powers but you mustn&#8217;t ever use them.  </p>
<p>The Suppressives of the universe are just waiting for anyone to demonstrate any real power, and then BAM! you&#8217;re vaporized.  Don&#8217;t be getting all stupid and blowing the whole game for all of the rest of us.  Let them laugh at you for now.  When there are enough of us, and we are strong enough, we will make our move and take over the whole show.  And believe me&#8230;  that time IS coming, in fact the technology is already in place, and if you do EXACTLY what I say, without question, we will succeed! </p>
<p>Gee mommy,  Hubbard really is evil&#8230;  When are the good guys going to come to the rescue?<br />
We&#8217;ll see..  Go to sleep now honey,  I will read some more tomorrow.</p>
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		By: EricS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EricS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 01:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1826375&quot;&gt;Princess Poopypants&lt;/a&gt;.

Ahhh.  But I seem to recall somewhere where Hubbard said that the notion that &quot;we are all one&quot; is false.  The concept of a &quot;Godhead&quot; is false. (I am not sure if he said it was an &quot;implant&quot;, but as good as...  So, again, which is it going to be?

Whether I recall correctly or not, one thing is for certain - Hubbard lied, made sh-t up and lied about that too, considered that whatever nonsense that he came up with was true but insisted that it was the result of &quot;scientific research&quot;.  Nothing that Hubbard says, as &quot;source&quot; is anything but Hubbard.  The &quot;truth&quot; is insignificant when weighed against the proclamations of &quot;source&quot;. 

Sounds to me like Hubbard has simply avoided the word &quot;God&quot; and replaced it with &quot;source&quot;.  Wouldn&#039;t surprise me if, at some point, he &quot;admits&quot; that he is, in fact, the creator of the entire universe... &quot;truth revealed&quot;... and when you believe that you will be totally free...  free of any reasoning power what-so-ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1826375">Princess Poopypants</a>.</p>
<p>Ahhh.  But I seem to recall somewhere where Hubbard said that the notion that &#8220;we are all one&#8221; is false.  The concept of a &#8220;Godhead&#8221; is false. (I am not sure if he said it was an &#8220;implant&#8221;, but as good as&#8230;  So, again, which is it going to be?</p>
<p>Whether I recall correctly or not, one thing is for certain &#8211; Hubbard lied, made sh-t up and lied about that too, considered that whatever nonsense that he came up with was true but insisted that it was the result of &#8220;scientific research&#8221;.  Nothing that Hubbard says, as &#8220;source&#8221; is anything but Hubbard.  The &#8220;truth&#8221; is insignificant when weighed against the proclamations of &#8220;source&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sounds to me like Hubbard has simply avoided the word &#8220;God&#8221; and replaced it with &#8220;source&#8221;.  Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if, at some point, he &#8220;admits&#8221; that he is, in fact, the creator of the entire universe&#8230; &#8220;truth revealed&#8221;&#8230; and when you believe that you will be totally free&#8230;  free of any reasoning power what-so-ever.</p>
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		By: Artoo45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artoo45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2017 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1826163&quot;&gt;Marc Headley&lt;/a&gt;.

Can&#039;t blame a bunkerista for trying. And we can be very trying. Hope to meet you there!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1826163">Marc Headley</a>.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t blame a bunkerista for trying. And we can be very trying. Hope to meet you there!</p>
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		By: mandymarie20		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mandymarie20]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2017 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wonder if there is any way someone like Tony can get a hold of the entire document.  Hopefully Melissa Cronin or the people at Radar explore this instead of just putting it in a drawer.  It takes actual guts to talk about this.  I hope Radar has them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if there is any way someone like Tony can get a hold of the entire document.  Hopefully Melissa Cronin or the people at Radar explore this instead of just putting it in a drawer.  It takes actual guts to talk about this.  I hope Radar has them.</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Free Minds, Free Hearts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2017 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1826160&quot;&gt;Marc Headley&lt;/a&gt;.

Marc, every time I see a picture of you and your beautiful family it makes me smile.  Thank you.  SO glad you are out and together!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/05/03/confirmation-of-the-2009-fbi-trafficking-probe-of-scientology-that-the-church-denied/comment-page-1/#comment-1826160">Marc Headley</a>.</p>
<p>Marc, every time I see a picture of you and your beautiful family it makes me smile.  Thank you.  SO glad you are out and together!</p>
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