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		By: TexasBroad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2017 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-3/#comment-1869078&quot;&gt;Syd&lt;/a&gt;.

How fun to scroll and find old comments!  Fun for me to find your reply.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-3/#comment-1869078">Syd</a>.</p>
<p>How fun to scroll and find old comments!  Fun for me to find your reply.  🙂</p>
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		By: Syd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-3/#comment-1766282&quot;&gt;TexasBroad&lt;/a&gt;.

I know I&#039;m 3 months late - but for some reason I missed a bunch of comments but seeing them now.  Thanks for the welcome - I enjoy your insightful posts!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-3/#comment-1766282">TexasBroad</a>.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m 3 months late &#8211; but for some reason I missed a bunch of comments but seeing them now.  Thanks for the welcome &#8211; I enjoy your insightful posts!</p>
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		By: Alex De Valera		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 12:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marty Rathbun ceased to interest me since he started his 180• turn. He lost all credibility. It was very abusive on his part to drop the legal team after such good results. He is not a squirrel but a scoundrel. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty Rathbun ceased to interest me since he started his 180• turn. He lost all credibility. It was very abusive on his part to drop the legal team after such good results. He is not a squirrel but a scoundrel. </p>
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		By: Tionia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2017 04:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having watched Lea Remini&#039;s show Scientology and the Aftermath which she exposes Scientology and many of their harms I had a pretty positive outlook on Marty Rathbun. He had nothing good to say about Scientology. So what gives? Guess I&#039;ll wait for Season 2 from  Remini and see how that plays out. I have no doubts about Scientology being an abusive cult. When I was much younger a got together with a friend from grade school and she &#038; her husband were a very big part of it and she tried to get my and the 4 children I had at the time to join up. We didn&#039;t and I felt it was a big scam. Anytime people want to &quot;help you&quot; but want money from you what they want to help is the pocket book of whomever is in charge and in that case it was Scientology. I didn&#039;t buy into it back then and I don&#039;t now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having watched Lea Remini&#8217;s show Scientology and the Aftermath which she exposes Scientology and many of their harms I had a pretty positive outlook on Marty Rathbun. He had nothing good to say about Scientology. So what gives? Guess I&#8217;ll wait for Season 2 from  Remini and see how that plays out. I have no doubts about Scientology being an abusive cult. When I was much younger a got together with a friend from grade school and she &amp; her husband were a very big part of it and she tried to get my and the 4 children I had at the time to join up. We didn&#8217;t and I felt it was a big scam. Anytime people want to &#8220;help you&#8221; but want money from you what they want to help is the pocket book of whomever is in charge and in that case it was Scientology. I didn&#8217;t buy into it back then and I don&#8217;t now.</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 11:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-2/#comment-1765922&quot;&gt;Chocolate Velvet&lt;/a&gt;.

Marty didn&#039;t leave because he had any problem with putting Miscavige&#039;s version of LRH&#039;s sadistic perversion of the word &quot;Ethics&quot; in on Scientolgists-- 
He left because he had already problem with them being &quot;put in&quot; on HIM.

He wasn&#039;t against putting people in the Hole and torturing them physically and mentally, he had a problem when it was HIS turn.

Even out, he continued to slander Gerry Anderson, a man with more integrity and bravery and who has taken more risk and faced more danger in his littlest pinkie finger nail clipping, than Marty has in his whole &#039;tough guy against wome, children, and neutered men obliged never to fight back in any way.

Marty is a classic type,: He is the guy at work who constantly rags on management, and how unfair it is to all the employees until the day he is promoted, and all the employees scelebrafe! Finally! One of us! He was s against the unfair things! Hooray!

Only, he wasn&#039;t against being unfair. He was against being the target of it. And now he becomes the unfairest of all.

He isn&#039;t even slightly original in his way of being a complete dick.

It was hard out here once he took perhaps the only lucid step of his thuggish life and denounces Hubbard, therefore ceding his attempt at the Refirmed Scientology Crown.
NB He also denied emphatically trying to lead a movement to depose Davey&#039;s and take his place. And yet, there is Video of him planning the coup... oh well, ho hum....

He isn&#039;t against squirrel busters, and coming on to apostates wives, or slander, or.... Unles he is the target.

People her tag on Louis Theroux&#039;s documentary, but eh captured something o one else got Marty going into Does Not Compute Mode when faced with the absolutely undeniable proof of his complicity and hypocrisy.... 

Everyone was so busy criticizing Louis et al for not making the film they wanted to see, and they missed him getting what he set up and promised 
One thuggish faux philosophic meathead with delusions of having groupies hood, host upon his own petard.

But hey, wasn&#039;t that unfair how they didn&#039;t give into him when he tried to direct the 
Live hilaelf by telling them not to get actors to imitate a very freaky embarrassing thing they do in private? Why isn&#039;t that just like Hubbard or Davey&#039;s or.... nope, not at all...

Mary is doing his A-Es.

Whether or not he believes, or Davey&#039;s once again gain got him back with a back rub and sweet words about power, and needing him, and who will replace Half-Pint Hitler when the time comes for the kiddy coffin to l]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-2/#comment-1765922">Chocolate Velvet</a>.</p>
<p>Marty didn&#8217;t leave because he had any problem with putting Miscavige&#8217;s version of LRH&#8217;s sadistic perversion of the word &#8220;Ethics&#8221; in on Scientolgists&#8211;<br />
He left because he had already problem with them being &#8220;put in&#8221; on HIM.</p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t against putting people in the Hole and torturing them physically and mentally, he had a problem when it was HIS turn.</p>
<p>Even out, he continued to slander Gerry Anderson, a man with more integrity and bravery and who has taken more risk and faced more danger in his littlest pinkie finger nail clipping, than Marty has in his whole &#8216;tough guy against wome, children, and neutered men obliged never to fight back in any way.</p>
<p>Marty is a classic type,: He is the guy at work who constantly rags on management, and how unfair it is to all the employees until the day he is promoted, and all the employees scelebrafe! Finally! One of us! He was s against the unfair things! Hooray!</p>
<p>Only, he wasn&#8217;t against being unfair. He was against being the target of it. And now he becomes the unfairest of all.</p>
<p>He isn&#8217;t even slightly original in his way of being a complete dick.</p>
<p>It was hard out here once he took perhaps the only lucid step of his thuggish life and denounces Hubbard, therefore ceding his attempt at the Refirmed Scientology Crown.<br />
NB He also denied emphatically trying to lead a movement to depose Davey&#8217;s and take his place. And yet, there is Video of him planning the coup&#8230; oh well, ho hum&#8230;.</p>
<p>He isn&#8217;t against squirrel busters, and coming on to apostates wives, or slander, or&#8230;. Unles he is the target.</p>
<p>People her tag on Louis Theroux&#8217;s documentary, but eh captured something o one else got Marty going into Does Not Compute Mode when faced with the absolutely undeniable proof of his complicity and hypocrisy&#8230;. </p>
<p>Everyone was so busy criticizing Louis et al for not making the film they wanted to see, and they missed him getting what he set up and promised<br />
One thuggish faux philosophic meathead with delusions of having groupies hood, host upon his own petard.</p>
<p>But hey, wasn&#8217;t that unfair how they didn&#8217;t give into him when he tried to direct the<br />
Live hilaelf by telling them not to get actors to imitate a very freaky embarrassing thing they do in private? Why isn&#8217;t that just like Hubbard or Davey&#8217;s or&#8230;. nope, not at all&#8230;</p>
<p>Mary is doing his A-Es.</p>
<p>Whether or not he believes, or Davey&#8217;s once again gain got him back with a back rub and sweet words about power, and needing him, and who will replace Half-Pint Hitler when the time comes for the kiddy coffin to l</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 11:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know about any settlement, but I maintain my question that I posed when the case had already been dropped and Marty went after Theroux and Tony:

&quot;If Marty WERE NOT doing his amends A-E, can anyone tell me what would be different?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about any settlement, but I maintain my question that I posed when the case had already been dropped and Marty went after Theroux and Tony:</p>
<p>&#8220;If Marty WERE NOT doing his amends A-E, can anyone tell me what would be different?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jgg2012		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2017 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rathbun calls the anti-Scientology movement a cult (the &quot;Anti-Scientology Cult&quot; or ASC.)  It is not.  It is the exact opposite of one.  There is no glorified leader: maybe Ortega Is the main leader now (and maybe Rathbun is jealous that his blog did not do as well as this one) but he reports what other people told him, and lets people comment.  LRH made stuff up out of thin air and did not allow any dissent.  Also, there were prior leaders--Russell Miller, Mark Bunker, Tory Magoo, Graham Berry and Paulette Cooper, who he wrote a book about, among others.  LRH did not write about the people he stole ideas from (Freud, Jung), or acknowledge them in any way.  There are also other critics outside of this blog, like Chris Shelton.  Tony isn&#039;t sending squirrel busters to stop Shelton from being ASC outside of his blog.  C&#039;mon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rathbun calls the anti-Scientology movement a cult (the &#8220;Anti-Scientology Cult&#8221; or ASC.)  It is not.  It is the exact opposite of one.  There is no glorified leader: maybe Ortega Is the main leader now (and maybe Rathbun is jealous that his blog did not do as well as this one) but he reports what other people told him, and lets people comment.  LRH made stuff up out of thin air and did not allow any dissent.  Also, there were prior leaders&#8211;Russell Miller, Mark Bunker, Tory Magoo, Graham Berry and Paulette Cooper, who he wrote a book about, among others.  LRH did not write about the people he stole ideas from (Freud, Jung), or acknowledge them in any way.  There are also other critics outside of this blog, like Chris Shelton.  Tony isn&#8217;t sending squirrel busters to stop Shelton from being ASC outside of his blog.  C&#8217;mon.</p>
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		By: MichaelWinters		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2017 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-1/#comment-1766267&quot;&gt;Michael Leonard Tilse&lt;/a&gt;.

Fair enough. That aside, I just can&#039;t get over thinking about Miscavige in the toilet saying, &quot;WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR?!!&quot; While referencing Marty and his sh*t at the same time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-1/#comment-1766267">Michael Leonard Tilse</a>.</p>
<p>Fair enough. That aside, I just can&#8217;t get over thinking about Miscavige in the toilet saying, &#8220;WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR?!!&#8221; While referencing Marty and his sh*t at the same time.</p>
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		By: Chocolate Velvet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chocolate Velvet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2017 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-2/#comment-1769225&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

Well duh.  I was not talking about his legal obligations to go to the authorities.
And it is my understanding that  he and Mike Rinder both spoke to the authorities at length.  I was not there so I don&#039;t know what was said specifically beyond what they have revealed about that.  But, for instance, the Lisa McPherson case was one subject of discussion -- the shredding of documents, Miscavige&#039;s involvement, etc.  The problem is LAW ENFORCEMENT won&#039;t act on the information they have.  This is a constant problem concerning criminal acts by the cult or its members, in multiple jurisdictions all over the US.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/09/as-louis-therouxs-my-scientology-movie-hits-us-troubling-news-about-co-star-marty-rathbun/comment-page-2/#comment-1769225">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>Well duh.  I was not talking about his legal obligations to go to the authorities.<br />
And it is my understanding that  he and Mike Rinder both spoke to the authorities at length.  I was not there so I don&#8217;t know what was said specifically beyond what they have revealed about that.  But, for instance, the Lisa McPherson case was one subject of discussion &#8212; the shredding of documents, Miscavige&#8217;s involvement, etc.  The problem is LAW ENFORCEMENT won&#8217;t act on the information they have.  This is a constant problem concerning criminal acts by the cult or its members, in multiple jurisdictions all over the US.</p>
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		By: sickofit		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2017 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[with all the church defectors, I would say..anyone who still believes in it in anyway...independent or not is still brainwashed to a certain extent...it is a fraud...through and through,,,,whether its tied to the organization or not.  The &quot;independents&quot; are making quite a lot of money off of exploiting peoples troubles the same way the church did...dont trust anyone who has any sort of faith in that nonsense on any level. a scam is a scam is a scam..no matter what you call it or who is doing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with all the church defectors, I would say..anyone who still believes in it in anyway&#8230;independent or not is still brainwashed to a certain extent&#8230;it is a fraud&#8230;through and through,,,,whether its tied to the organization or not.  The &#8220;independents&#8221; are making quite a lot of money off of exploiting peoples troubles the same way the church did&#8230;dont trust anyone who has any sort of faith in that nonsense on any level. a scam is a scam is a scam..no matter what you call it or who is doing it.</p>
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