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	Comments on: The most Scientology-involved movie ever made? Here comes Nancy&#8217;s baby!	</title>
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		By: FILMPGH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2017 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-1756091&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

I might just be grasping at straws, but I wonder if the Fellini estate could sue about it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-1756091">Once_Born</a>.</p>
<p>I might just be grasping at straws, but I wonder if the Fellini estate could sue about it?</p>
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		By: Peter Hoffman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Hoffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2017 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem is, with so many $cientologists in one cast—when one eventually defects, the movie becomes $cientologically worthless.

Don&#039;t put all your eggs in one basket, bitch! ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, with so many $cientologists in one cast—when one eventually defects, the movie becomes $cientologically worthless.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t put all your eggs in one basket, bitch! 😉</p>
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		By: roger weller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2017 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A friend in L.A. Just told me my daughter Alyssa is in the crazy Cartwright movie. And is mentioned as david campbells daughter.i was in the Bahamas last week and didn&#039;t read the story until just now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend in L.A. Just told me my daughter Alyssa is in the crazy Cartwright movie. And is mentioned as david campbells daughter.i was in the Bahamas last week and didn&#8217;t read the story until just now.</p>
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		By: Dice シ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dice シ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 12:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756678&quot;&gt;Ben Franklin&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes.. the analogy to drugs and the steps to get out appears to be the same!
So maybe we should just point to another source of endorphin&#039;s like RL. I know for my part, that RL has been very amazing after i realized the true nature of a severe  clinical depression :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756678">Ben Franklin</a>.</p>
<p>Yes.. the analogy to drugs and the steps to get out appears to be the same!<br />
So maybe we should just point to another source of endorphin&#8217;s like RL. I know for my part, that RL has been very amazing after i realized the true nature of a severe  clinical depression 🙂</p>
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		By: Ben Franklin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Franklin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756667&quot;&gt;Dice シ&lt;/a&gt;.

I totally understand what you mean. There are those who respond well to tough love approach and there are some who retreat into hiding. You should have seen the first video Andy posted, it was nothing close to what he is posting today. It was all about LRH and the tech and how Miscavige has ruined it for everyone. His thought process is evolving, albeit slowly, partly because he is attached to the independent scene. It frustrates me too that many people delay their recovery by being involved with the indies, but, for some it is their way of coping. Auditing is quite addictive and for some people it is like a drug that they cannot live without, and pretty much have to wean themselves off of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756667">Dice シ</a>.</p>
<p>I totally understand what you mean. There are those who respond well to tough love approach and there are some who retreat into hiding. You should have seen the first video Andy posted, it was nothing close to what he is posting today. It was all about LRH and the tech and how Miscavige has ruined it for everyone. His thought process is evolving, albeit slowly, partly because he is attached to the independent scene. It frustrates me too that many people delay their recovery by being involved with the indies, but, for some it is their way of coping. Auditing is quite addictive and for some people it is like a drug that they cannot live without, and pretty much have to wean themselves off of it.</p>
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		By: Dice シ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756317&quot;&gt;Ben Franklin&lt;/a&gt;.

You know what kept me on my toes back in the 80s... people who where yelling at me while body-routing, people who throw bricks through the DIV6 store window,  people who came into the test center, just check me out as a weirdo for being a scientologist. Nobody want this! so you have to be very hardcore to even try being a scio. BUT... in my head i wanted to know why those people where so upset about all this, so i stayed 3 feet back of the CoS and kept my critical sense, waiting for them to produce some results. This saved my ass. I did not buy a fake bridge. I did not train for Auditor. I did not sign a mill year contract. etc... But i stayed around those people all those years because they where easy going and i was deep-shit involved in all other activities with these people. Waiting for some OT&#039;s to show off... Never happen! I agree to your description of this place and Mikes and i believe that people should have the right to do what ever they want with their life, as long as they do not harm anyone else and nobody is complaining. This Andy (can&#039;t see his full name here in this side box) can do whatever he want with LRH&#039;s &quot;tech&quot; and as far as i know, he is not harming anyone.  I just find him funny and in a funny way.  But i also admire him for standing up to his belief and making those videos. My RL experience with exes, is that they are so confused and don&#039;t even look and learn, but just brush it off as no harm is done and they are not connected with the chirch, so why bother?.... Wrong! lol... This shit is so deep implanted in their upbringing and what have you, that if you push them, they will default to the Tonescale and if your raise your voice, they shut down and convince them self - again, that you have a reactive mind and are suppressing them with Entheta. They are trained not to listen to you but only acknowledge you and handle you &quot;Originations&quot; because they are Clear and you are not. You see what i mean?  They can hang around Mikes place, all they want, and with all due respect. As you say, the bunker is the final step and you don&#039;t go any were with any kind of Woo! 

Long Rant... sorry. Point is, J&#038;D, nudging , misuse of LRH &quot;Tech&quot; out ethics and serious Overts, Shoops and Cat pictures! Might save some of them and make them change their Core Values back to what they was before LRH. So i don&#039;t agree all that much with your last sentence!.  But i will take any advise to shut up, if i overstep someones wishes to be left alone as i am not here to piss anyone off, i might do that sometimes, but wth, i can learn from my mistakes

I&#039;m not writing all this just for you, i hope someone else will also read this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756317">Ben Franklin</a>.</p>
<p>You know what kept me on my toes back in the 80s&#8230; people who where yelling at me while body-routing, people who throw bricks through the DIV6 store window,  people who came into the test center, just check me out as a weirdo for being a scientologist. Nobody want this! so you have to be very hardcore to even try being a scio. BUT&#8230; in my head i wanted to know why those people where so upset about all this, so i stayed 3 feet back of the CoS and kept my critical sense, waiting for them to produce some results. This saved my ass. I did not buy a fake bridge. I did not train for Auditor. I did not sign a mill year contract. etc&#8230; But i stayed around those people all those years because they where easy going and i was deep-shit involved in all other activities with these people. Waiting for some OT&#8217;s to show off&#8230; Never happen! I agree to your description of this place and Mikes and i believe that people should have the right to do what ever they want with their life, as long as they do not harm anyone else and nobody is complaining. This Andy (can&#8217;t see his full name here in this side box) can do whatever he want with LRH&#8217;s &#8220;tech&#8221; and as far as i know, he is not harming anyone.  I just find him funny and in a funny way.  But i also admire him for standing up to his belief and making those videos. My RL experience with exes, is that they are so confused and don&#8217;t even look and learn, but just brush it off as no harm is done and they are not connected with the chirch, so why bother?&#8230;. Wrong! lol&#8230; This shit is so deep implanted in their upbringing and what have you, that if you push them, they will default to the Tonescale and if your raise your voice, they shut down and convince them self &#8211; again, that you have a reactive mind and are suppressing them with Entheta. They are trained not to listen to you but only acknowledge you and handle you &#8220;Originations&#8221; because they are Clear and you are not. You see what i mean?  They can hang around Mikes place, all they want, and with all due respect. As you say, the bunker is the final step and you don&#8217;t go any were with any kind of Woo! </p>
<p>Long Rant&#8230; sorry. Point is, J&amp;D, nudging , misuse of LRH &#8220;Tech&#8221; out ethics and serious Overts, Shoops and Cat pictures! Might save some of them and make them change their Core Values back to what they was before LRH. So i don&#8217;t agree all that much with your last sentence!.  But i will take any advise to shut up, if i overstep someones wishes to be left alone as i am not here to piss anyone off, i might do that sometimes, but wth, i can learn from my mistakes</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not writing all this just for you, i hope someone else will also read this.</p>
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		By: Juicer77		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756607&quot;&gt;coonellie&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s an amazing dictionary collection!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756607">coonellie</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an amazing dictionary collection!</p>
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		By: EmmaDaoust		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756209&quot;&gt;madame duran&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed. I also fear Kellie Leitch and Kevin O&#039;Leary. They&#039;re the most vocal and visible now, making the other Conservative candidates look like left wingers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756209">madame duran</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed. I also fear Kellie Leitch and Kevin O&#8217;Leary. They&#8217;re the most vocal and visible now, making the other Conservative candidates look like left wingers.</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-2/#comment-1756048&quot;&gt;janedoe2&lt;/a&gt;.

I think we were at the same party.]]></description>
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<p>I think we were at the same party.</p>
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		By: dungeon master		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dungeon master]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/28/the-most-scientology-involved-movie-ever-made-here-comes-nancys-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-1755865&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Those sites are the gift that keeps on giving IMO. So many gold nuggets lying around, free to anyone one who cares to look. :-)]]></description>
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<p>Those sites are the gift that keeps on giving IMO. So many gold nuggets lying around, free to anyone one who cares to look. 🙂</p>
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