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	Comments on: Florida attempts sensible change to mental health law &#8212; so Scientology goes on attack	</title>
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		By: pluvo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2017 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Khalil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Khalil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 10:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;a system that is intended to prevent violence and suicide&quot; ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a system that is intended to prevent violence and suicide&#8221; ?</p>
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		By: Once_Born		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Once_Born]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1754740&quot;&gt;beauty for ashes&lt;/a&gt;.

By historical accident we have an established Church and  no equivalent to the first amendment. There is no special advantage to claiming to be a religion, here. You do get tax concession if you can show some public benefit - but the CofS can be (and was) refused. 

The established Church has waned impotent as we have become effectively a secular society, so there is no public  support for theocratic campaigns like Scientology vs psychiatry. 

If we have any talent in this department it&#039;s knowing when to leave situations like this alone because, although they don&#039;t make sense, and are often anachronistic, they work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1754740">beauty for ashes</a>.</p>
<p>By historical accident we have an established Church and  no equivalent to the first amendment. There is no special advantage to claiming to be a religion, here. You do get tax concession if you can show some public benefit &#8211; but the CofS can be (and was) refused. </p>
<p>The established Church has waned impotent as we have become effectively a secular society, so there is no public  support for theocratic campaigns like Scientology vs psychiatry. </p>
<p>If we have any talent in this department it&#8217;s knowing when to leave situations like this alone because, although they don&#8217;t make sense, and are often anachronistic, they work.</p>
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		By: Always Amazed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Always Amazed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-2/#comment-1753827&quot;&gt;daisy&lt;/a&gt;.

there are two sets of cards, one for each side of the stage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-2/#comment-1753827">daisy</a>.</p>
<p>there are two sets of cards, one for each side of the stage.</p>
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		By: beauty for ashes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beauty for ashes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1754697&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

LUCKY? *cries into blanket*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1754697">Once_Born</a>.</p>
<p>LUCKY? *cries into blanket*</p>
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		By: Once_Born		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Once_Born]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1754686&quot;&gt;beauty for ashes&lt;/a&gt;.

I think we are just lucky that that our mental health care system is unimpeded by interference from groups driven by  ideological concerns.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1754686">beauty for ashes</a>.</p>
<p>I think we are just lucky that that our mental health care system is unimpeded by interference from groups driven by  ideological concerns.</p>
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		By: beauty for ashes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beauty for ashes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1753854&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you , but I fear it will just make me jealous of your country&#039;s rationality. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1753854">Once_Born</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you , but I fear it will just make me jealous of your country&#8217;s rationality. 🙂</p>
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		By: Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1753316&quot;&gt;SinisterSike&lt;/a&gt;.

Awe-right! Thank you Sike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1753316">SinisterSike</a>.</p>
<p>Awe-right! Thank you Sike.</p>
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		By: Jgg2012		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jgg2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1753514&quot;&gt;BaaadaBing&lt;/a&gt;.

What if they have a lot of money?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/26/florida-attempts-sensible-change-to-mental-health-law-so-scientology-goes-on-the-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1753514">BaaadaBing</a>.</p>
<p>What if they have a lot of money?</p>
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		By: AngryNotSoOldHippy .		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt; CCHR is against the Baker Act entirely&lt;/b&gt;

I am also. Christofascist right wing fascists use the Act against society, using it to silence demonstrations by American citizens who take to the streets to oppose far right wing fascism.

&lt;b&gt;The Baker Act is to help someone who wants to commit suicide. &lt;/b&gt;

No, the Baker Act was created to fuck American citizens, to give fascist assholes the legal &quot;right&quot; to commit human rights and civil rights crimes against American citizens.

The fascist State has &lt;b&gt;zero&lt;/b&gt; right to stop people from killing themselves. Nobody asked these fucking right wing assholes for &quot;help.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> CCHR is against the Baker Act entirely</b></p>
<p>I am also. Christofascist right wing fascists use the Act against society, using it to silence demonstrations by American citizens who take to the streets to oppose far right wing fascism.</p>
<p><b>The Baker Act is to help someone who wants to commit suicide. </b></p>
<p>No, the Baker Act was created to fuck American citizens, to give fascist assholes the legal &#8220;right&#8221; to commit human rights and civil rights crimes against American citizens.</p>
<p>The fascist State has <b>zero</b> right to stop people from killing themselves. Nobody asked these fucking right wing assholes for &#8220;help.&#8221;</p>
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