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	Comments on: More federal charges for Scientology family that sold rhino horn products	</title>
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		By: chukicita		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chukicita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753281&quot;&gt;Andrea &#039;i-Betty&#039; Garner&lt;/a&gt;.

*drool*

I&#039;m not sure I have everything here for that, but I will try them wrapped in wafer-thin Serrano ham and drizzled in Velveeta.  :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753281">Andrea &#8216;i-Betty&#8217; Garner</a>.</p>
<p>*drool*</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I have everything here for that, but I will try them wrapped in wafer-thin Serrano ham and drizzled in Velveeta.  😀</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of bad photos to slant impressions,  they forgot to add this one,   He&#039;s the one who keeps the official Scientologists continuing the institutionalized abuse.

This guy deserves the award for:  

Best Cult Founder Trouble Inspirer of the 20th Century

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of bad photos to slant impressions,  they forgot to add this one,   He&#8217;s the one who keeps the official Scientologists continuing the institutionalized abuse.</p>
<p>This guy deserves the award for:  </p>
<p>Best Cult Founder Trouble Inspirer of the 20th Century</p>
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		By: AngryNotSoOldHippy .		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AngryNotSoOldHippy .]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Always something criminal with Scientology crooks. Always.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always something criminal with Scientology crooks. Always.</p>
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		By: FredEX2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Little Randy Rhino listened as his mommie Rita told him...&quot;You must always brush your teeth, take your vitamins and drink your milk Randy dear...and if you ever smell a slimey con named Chait,...run like hell.&quot;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little Randy Rhino listened as his mommie Rita told him&#8230;&#8221;You must always brush your teeth, take your vitamins and drink your milk Randy dear&#8230;and if you ever smell a slimey con named Chait,&#8230;run like hell.&#8221;<br />
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753321&quot;&gt;aquaclara&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you acquaclara, A beautiful post. Bless them both, may they shine on and fly high. 💛]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753321">aquaclara</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you acquaclara, A beautiful post. Bless them both, may they shine on and fly high. 💛</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753219&quot;&gt;stillgrace2&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you stillgrace2, I spent sometime deciding what word would fit as I did not recall his full name. Faulty memory! I guess gentleman could be seen as gentle man, but I always liked rascal. I am sad that they are not here, but wish them love and peace wherever they journey. ❤️]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753219">stillgrace2</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you stillgrace2, I spent sometime deciding what word would fit as I did not recall his full name. Faulty memory! I guess gentleman could be seen as gentle man, but I always liked rascal. I am sad that they are not here, but wish them love and peace wherever they journey. ❤️</p>
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		By: beauty for ashes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beauty for ashes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753075&quot;&gt;Science Doc&lt;/a&gt;.

Aww, the closest I will get is Tahoe in the summer, this year.   I won&#039;t forget that though!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753075">Science Doc</a>.</p>
<p>Aww, the closest I will get is Tahoe in the summer, this year.   I won&#8217;t forget that though!</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1752756&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

Once Born, from what I can tell the missions situation was very complex, with some people really starting to go off in strange directions, and others rather astutely trying to correct the ways in which Scientology was hobbling itself.  Hubbard and his top managers may well have thought they could do better by cutting out the middleman, so to speak, and Scientology did apparently reach peak size afterwards around 1990.
By the way, my analysis is that Hubbard cynically decided to exercise more heavy-handed control about 1965, but that it took time to work out and implement.  The price increases were instituted around 1977, but crush sales came in around the early 1970s, so I&#039;m not sure when it might be said that Hubbard decided to go for a strategy of less volume but higher cash yield, but at some point Scientology did effectively switch to working that way.
I do suspect that at the end Miscavige (and Broeker) must have realized that Hubbard was losing it, and probably started acting more on their own initiative, and even ignoring some craziness.  Whether Miscagive just did what he thought needed to be done to keep Hubbard&#039;s organization under control, or actually abused his position and manipulated Hubbard, I think is hard to say without testimony from someone who was there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1752756">Once_Born</a>.</p>
<p>Once Born, from what I can tell the missions situation was very complex, with some people really starting to go off in strange directions, and others rather astutely trying to correct the ways in which Scientology was hobbling itself.  Hubbard and his top managers may well have thought they could do better by cutting out the middleman, so to speak, and Scientology did apparently reach peak size afterwards around 1990.<br />
By the way, my analysis is that Hubbard cynically decided to exercise more heavy-handed control about 1965, but that it took time to work out and implement.  The price increases were instituted around 1977, but crush sales came in around the early 1970s, so I&#8217;m not sure when it might be said that Hubbard decided to go for a strategy of less volume but higher cash yield, but at some point Scientology did effectively switch to working that way.<br />
I do suspect that at the end Miscavige (and Broeker) must have realized that Hubbard was losing it, and probably started acting more on their own initiative, and even ignoring some craziness.  Whether Miscagive just did what he thought needed to be done to keep Hubbard&#8217;s organization under control, or actually abused his position and manipulated Hubbard, I think is hard to say without testimony from someone who was there.</p>
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		By: Rasha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rasha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clouds are clearing.  Temperature is falling nicely.  Telescope is acclimating. Enjoy the Oscars, Rasha will be admiring the real stars. Venusian locomotives should be nicely evident at this orbital moment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clouds are clearing.  Temperature is falling nicely.  Telescope is acclimating. Enjoy the Oscars, Rasha will be admiring the real stars. Venusian locomotives should be nicely evident at this orbital moment.</p>
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		By: Rasha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rasha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753151&quot;&gt;Tony Ortega&lt;/a&gt;.

A treasure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/25/more-federal-charges-for-scientology-family-that-sold-rhino-horn-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1753151">Tony Ortega</a>.</p>
<p>A treasure.</p>
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