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		By: Douglas D. Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas D. Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741475&quot;&gt;Sandy&lt;/a&gt;.

I just ran across this comment and want to respond. I am flattered you refer to me as &quot;beloved.&quot; I do my best!

Although I am, indeed, a lifelong Republican, I barely recognize the GOP today. It has gone so far off the rails that the advent of Trump was more inevitable than an anomaly. As Daisy says, he is not a Republican, he is a narcissist. But the fact that he has so easily co-opted the Republican leadership and base shows how low the party has sunk. I don&#039;t know how much longer I can put up with this. It&#039;s embarrassing. (And that&#039;s the most printable term I could find.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741475">Sandy</a>.</p>
<p>I just ran across this comment and want to respond. I am flattered you refer to me as &#8220;beloved.&#8221; I do my best!</p>
<p>Although I am, indeed, a lifelong Republican, I barely recognize the GOP today. It has gone so far off the rails that the advent of Trump was more inevitable than an anomaly. As Daisy says, he is not a Republican, he is a narcissist. But the fact that he has so easily co-opted the Republican leadership and base shows how low the party has sunk. I don&#8217;t know how much longer I can put up with this. It&#8217;s embarrassing. (And that&#8217;s the most printable term I could find.)</p>
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		By: ExCult.Jan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ExCult.Jan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741440&quot;&gt;Intergalactic Walrus&lt;/a&gt;.

Does my &quot;RUMP&quot; look ....?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741440">Intergalactic Walrus</a>.</p>
<p>Does my &#8220;RUMP&#8221; look &#8230;.?</p>
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		By: Dice シ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dice シ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741835&quot;&gt;Qbird&lt;/a&gt;.

Hmm... The three Cognition&#039;s... Excellent - Stolen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741835">Qbird</a>.</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; The three Cognition&#8217;s&#8230; Excellent &#8211; Stolen</p>
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		By: Qbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Qbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1742657&quot;&gt;Magapo&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, but I’m not sure I understand your comment, Magapo.  
Who is made stronger [bc of Tony &#038; Leah]?

The folks who are still devoted to practicing Scn.?
Is that what you are saying? 
If so, how does it make them stronger?

I have heard a good number of former Scn. say that their experience with Scn. has, in fact, made them stronger... the ones who survived it, mentally, spiritually, financially, emotionally, 
feel that they are not such easy targets any more.  They are not so easily taken in by other scams now.  
But, and this is key, this ability comes with a serious &#038; heavy price:
disconnection being what it is, 
being declared being what it is, 
SP/PTS doctrine being what it is, 
Fair Game being what it is — 
BEING LIED TO SO THOROUGHLY. 

All these cruel problems &#038; rules created by Ron, the game-maker…
who didn&#039;t have to play by the rules himself.  Neither does David Miscavige - he the rule-maker now.  He&#039;s even more of a chicken shit than Ron was, ffs!  Hiding, always hiding, the leaders of this group.

LRH forces these problems upon them… after so much time, energy, money &#038; effort &#038; thought put forward towards understanding Hubbard’s case.
His case was shitty.  His tech didn&#039;t help him, not when you look at how he lived his life.

Also many ex-scn. have loss of the ability to trust ppl.
Here there is sorrow again.  

My conclusion after many years of listening to lots of ppl who have been devoted to LRH&#039;s thought-system &#038; methods is this:  Anyone who gets close to LRH, any person who allows Hubbard into their minds &#038; their hearts &#038; souls, gets hurt... deep inside.

Observe his own wives &#038; children, his own &#039;friends&#039;, his adherents, (the best students! the ones who paid the most money) 
all his Players, Assistants, his Pieces &#038; his broken Pieces.  
His organization uses &#038; abuses them.  What a rip-off.

If Scn. were true, after 60 years, there would be Clears &#038; OTs, spiritually advanced ppl EVERYWHERE &#038; ppl would be busting down the doors to get in.  Not happening tho, is it?! 
Cause Over Life ppl don&#039;t exist.  Scn. has not made them.
Scientology does not deliver what it promises.
OR!  If folks like this do exist, they are kept tightly trapped inside the organizations &#038; are therefore never able to actually do the job of  “clearing the planet”.  wth.

L. Ron Hubbard’s Thetan Trap is good bc if you buy it (literally &#038; figuratively) you end up selling it to yourself. 

Listen, idk who you are &#038; what you expect from commenting on this blog... but fair warning, you will find no love for Hubbard&#039;s ways &#038; means here.  I&#039;m sure you know that.  I appreciate you talking to me anyway, finally, saying something more than just one word &quot;boring&quot;.    
I hope that wherever you are, you are okay &#038; safe &#038; not being hurt by Hubbard&#039;s crap-shoot game.  

best of luck to you, Magapo.  Q]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1742657">Magapo</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, but I’m not sure I understand your comment, Magapo.<br />
Who is made stronger [bc of Tony &amp; Leah]?</p>
<p>The folks who are still devoted to practicing Scn.?<br />
Is that what you are saying?<br />
If so, how does it make them stronger?</p>
<p>I have heard a good number of former Scn. say that their experience with Scn. has, in fact, made them stronger&#8230; the ones who survived it, mentally, spiritually, financially, emotionally,<br />
feel that they are not such easy targets any more.  They are not so easily taken in by other scams now.<br />
But, and this is key, this ability comes with a serious &amp; heavy price:<br />
disconnection being what it is,<br />
being declared being what it is,<br />
SP/PTS doctrine being what it is,<br />
Fair Game being what it is —<br />
BEING LIED TO SO THOROUGHLY. </p>
<p>All these cruel problems &amp; rules created by Ron, the game-maker…<br />
who didn&#8217;t have to play by the rules himself.  Neither does David Miscavige &#8211; he the rule-maker now.  He&#8217;s even more of a chicken shit than Ron was, ffs!  Hiding, always hiding, the leaders of this group.</p>
<p>LRH forces these problems upon them… after so much time, energy, money &amp; effort &amp; thought put forward towards understanding Hubbard’s case.<br />
His case was shitty.  His tech didn&#8217;t help him, not when you look at how he lived his life.</p>
<p>Also many ex-scn. have loss of the ability to trust ppl.<br />
Here there is sorrow again.  </p>
<p>My conclusion after many years of listening to lots of ppl who have been devoted to LRH&#8217;s thought-system &amp; methods is this:  Anyone who gets close to LRH, any person who allows Hubbard into their minds &amp; their hearts &amp; souls, gets hurt&#8230; deep inside.</p>
<p>Observe his own wives &amp; children, his own &#8216;friends&#8217;, his adherents, (the best students! the ones who paid the most money)<br />
all his Players, Assistants, his Pieces &amp; his broken Pieces.<br />
His organization uses &amp; abuses them.  What a rip-off.</p>
<p>If Scn. were true, after 60 years, there would be Clears &amp; OTs, spiritually advanced ppl EVERYWHERE &amp; ppl would be busting down the doors to get in.  Not happening tho, is it?!<br />
Cause Over Life ppl don&#8217;t exist.  Scn. has not made them.<br />
Scientology does not deliver what it promises.<br />
OR!  If folks like this do exist, they are kept tightly trapped inside the organizations &amp; are therefore never able to actually do the job of  “clearing the planet”.  wth.</p>
<p>L. Ron Hubbard’s Thetan Trap is good bc if you buy it (literally &amp; figuratively) you end up selling it to yourself. </p>
<p>Listen, idk who you are &amp; what you expect from commenting on this blog&#8230; but fair warning, you will find no love for Hubbard&#8217;s ways &amp; means here.  I&#8217;m sure you know that.  I appreciate you talking to me anyway, finally, saying something more than just one word &#8220;boring&#8221;.<br />
I hope that wherever you are, you are okay &amp; safe &amp; not being hurt by Hubbard&#8217;s crap-shoot game.  </p>
<p>best of luck to you, Magapo.  Q</p>
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		By: chukicita		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chukicita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1742499&quot;&gt;Artoo45&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, it&#039;s really the designer she chose.  Perhaps he is making a tongue in cheek statement.  She does have spunk; perhaps Scientology can help her with that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1742499">Artoo45</a>.</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s really the designer she chose.  Perhaps he is making a tongue in cheek statement.  She does have spunk; perhaps Scientology can help her with that.</p>
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		By: beauty for ashes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beauty for ashes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-1741948&quot;&gt;Frodis73&lt;/a&gt;.

without the stupid lace train.  mebbe :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-1741948">Frodis73</a>.</p>
<p>without the stupid lace train.  mebbe 🙂</p>
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		By: Rita G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rita G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-1741974&quot;&gt;Juicer77&lt;/a&gt;.

So far she hasn&#039;t seen it, but I will update when she does. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-1741974">Juicer77</a>.</p>
<p>So far she hasn&#8217;t seen it, but I will update when she does. 🙂</p>
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		By: Artoo45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artoo45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741586&quot;&gt;chukicita&lt;/a&gt;.

She&#039;s got spunk!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741586">chukicita</a>.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s got spunk!</p>
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		By: John Prince		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Prince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741659&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh,  I think You&#039;re a pretty special SP Alright 👼👀 ..bet I&#039;m not the only Bunkerite who says so. .go ahead Missus Obs, suck up a little glory ,You&#039;ve got it comming to Ya&#039;

(your shoops alone! @#$  get away from me,  will Ya? )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-1741659">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>Oh,  I think You&#8217;re a pretty special SP Alright 👼👀 ..bet I&#8217;m not the only Bunkerite who says so. .go ahead Missus Obs, suck up a little glory ,You&#8217;ve got it comming to Ya&#8217;</p>
<p>(your shoops alone! @#$  get away from me,  will Ya? )</p>
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		By: Jimmy3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-1742020&quot;&gt;Juicer77&lt;/a&gt;.

But I mean that in the kindest way possible.  Here is a smiley face:   =]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/12/welcome-to-your-scientology-nightmare-people-of-clearwater-florida/comment-page-2/#comment-1742020">Juicer77</a>.</p>
<p>But I mean that in the kindest way possible.  Here is a smiley face:   =]</p>
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