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	Comments on: What happens when Scientology helps you reach &#8216;your full potential&#8217;	</title>
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		By: TrishRan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TrishRan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 12:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It always amazes me that people can be persuaded to believe that they can learn more about themselves as individuals by listening to a group of people they have only recently met.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always amazes me that people can be persuaded to believe that they can learn more about themselves as individuals by listening to a group of people they have only recently met.</p>
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		By: Kevin Hogan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Hogan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a close friend when I was just a newbee in Scio, who worked at the GM plant with me. He was looked highly upon by other Scio members who also worked at GM because of his high degree of training. He was a most amazing person and lived in a house with 2 other Scio&#039;s, one of which was OT3, this was around 1977. One day, he sat me down and told me he had plenty of friends and he didn&#039;t need me as one of them, I was crushed. I earlier had asked him if I should report on a Scio that I knew was hanging out with known druggies, he said that I should of course, this was just before he disconnected from me. A few days later, he took a whole bottle of sominex, put a paper bag over his head and never woke again. His suicide note said something to the effect, if he had gone clear that he and his ex girlfriend could have had an excellent life....I still didn&#039;t leave after that and for a long time believed my Son was him returned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a close friend when I was just a newbee in Scio, who worked at the GM plant with me. He was looked highly upon by other Scio members who also worked at GM because of his high degree of training. He was a most amazing person and lived in a house with 2 other Scio&#8217;s, one of which was OT3, this was around 1977. One day, he sat me down and told me he had plenty of friends and he didn&#8217;t need me as one of them, I was crushed. I earlier had asked him if I should report on a Scio that I knew was hanging out with known druggies, he said that I should of course, this was just before he disconnected from me. A few days later, he took a whole bottle of sominex, put a paper bag over his head and never woke again. His suicide note said something to the effect, if he had gone clear that he and his ex girlfriend could have had an excellent life&#8230;.I still didn&#8217;t leave after that and for a long time believed my Son was him returned.</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Free Minds, Free Hearts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 05:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740529&quot;&gt;Jack99&lt;/a&gt;.

I know, and now they have children, how sad is that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740529">Jack99</a>.</p>
<p>I know, and now they have children, how sad is that?</p>
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		By: iampissed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iampissed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740920&quot;&gt;Phil Jones&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh sorry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740920">Phil Jones</a>.</p>
<p>Oh sorry.</p>
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		By: daisy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-2/#comment-1741358&quot;&gt;Ann B Watson&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the sweet compliment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-2/#comment-1741358">Ann B Watson</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the sweet compliment.</p>
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		By: Liberated		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liberated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-2/#comment-1741203&quot;&gt;Dice シ&lt;/a&gt;.

I had to refresh my memory,  the business I thought of was &quot; General Motors Guide Lamp&quot; they made all the headlights for GM cars, and they are in Anderson and the men at that mission worked there .
It&#039;s one of those places that was so popular...where else are you gonna work?
People made a good living at factories.
That place has been around since 1903.

The continental business was  a separate co. that brought new design and engineering concepts to improve &quot;the old plant&quot;
Bill and Judy Nagengast began their co. in 1985 and eventually merged with guide lamp some years later.  The only thing I can figure out is they are associated with WISE....how else are they going to enforce the ridiculous CO$ rules? 
How horrible to force an employee to take cult classes!  Then fire them if they don&#039;t.  Indiana is an &quot;at will&quot; state, meaning it&#039;s very easy to fire someone.

The mission there began in 1974 and dissolved maybe 5  years later.
The continental co later, and that&#039;s what confused me.  The fact the cult has this much power and influence enrages me...I hope this Wysong guy takes them to court and wins.


ps....The GM co. is now gone, defunct.....so it&#039;s just the continental co. now.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-2/#comment-1741203">Dice シ</a>.</p>
<p>I had to refresh my memory,  the business I thought of was &#8221; General Motors Guide Lamp&#8221; they made all the headlights for GM cars, and they are in Anderson and the men at that mission worked there .<br />
It&#8217;s one of those places that was so popular&#8230;where else are you gonna work?<br />
People made a good living at factories.<br />
That place has been around since 1903.</p>
<p>The continental business was  a separate co. that brought new design and engineering concepts to improve &#8220;the old plant&#8221;<br />
Bill and Judy Nagengast began their co. in 1985 and eventually merged with guide lamp some years later.  The only thing I can figure out is they are associated with WISE&#8230;.how else are they going to enforce the ridiculous CO$ rules?<br />
How horrible to force an employee to take cult classes!  Then fire them if they don&#8217;t.  Indiana is an &#8220;at will&#8221; state, meaning it&#8217;s very easy to fire someone.</p>
<p>The mission there began in 1974 and dissolved maybe 5  years later.<br />
The continental co later, and that&#8217;s what confused me.  The fact the cult has this much power and influence enrages me&#8230;I hope this Wysong guy takes them to court and wins.</p>
<p>ps&#8230;.The GM co. is now gone, defunct&#8230;..so it&#8217;s just the continental co. now.</p>
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		By: Brian Crouch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Crouch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740751&quot;&gt;nottrue&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;is this the way to happiness?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740751">nottrue</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;is this the way to happiness?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Bavarian Rage		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bavarian Rage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740896&quot;&gt;J. Swift&lt;/a&gt;.

FWIW - Just passed Flo&#039;s details by my husband, an avid gun collector/enthusiast. Apparently we have that exact gun (used to belong to my uncle) in a locked gun safe as per Canadian law. Though we&#039;d prefer to think that Scientology was involved, Mr. Rage says suicide can&#039;t be ruled out. I&#039;m 5&#039;2 - he says if I was right-handed I could easily pull the trigger, not much of a kick, very small caliber and entry wound, and get off the 4 shots at angle suggested, esp. if lying down. Like I said, though, it&#039;s preferable to pin it on Scientology-truly unfortunate that the key evidence- powder residue- was omitted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740896">J. Swift</a>.</p>
<p>FWIW &#8211; Just passed Flo&#8217;s details by my husband, an avid gun collector/enthusiast. Apparently we have that exact gun (used to belong to my uncle) in a locked gun safe as per Canadian law. Though we&#8217;d prefer to think that Scientology was involved, Mr. Rage says suicide can&#8217;t be ruled out. I&#8217;m 5&#8217;2 &#8211; he says if I was right-handed I could easily pull the trigger, not much of a kick, very small caliber and entry wound, and get off the 4 shots at angle suggested, esp. if lying down. Like I said, though, it&#8217;s preferable to pin it on Scientology-truly unfortunate that the key evidence- powder residue- was omitted.</p>
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		By: Bavarian Rage		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bavarian Rage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740905&quot;&gt;ze moo&lt;/a&gt;.

Never shot a gun, but my husband is a gun collector and fairly knowledgeable and agrees that suicide is within the realm of possibility, though we both prefer to think that Scientology was involved.  Apparently Mr. Rage has that gun in a cabinet downstairs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-1/#comment-1740905">ze moo</a>.</p>
<p>Never shot a gun, but my husband is a gun collector and fairly knowledgeable and agrees that suicide is within the realm of possibility, though we both prefer to think that Scientology was involved.  Apparently Mr. Rage has that gun in a cabinet downstairs.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-2/#comment-1741053&quot;&gt;daisy&lt;/a&gt;.

You should see me and my cell phone and all my other electronic devices lying in wait for me. And that is before I get to the emeters,electric boxes and PBX machines...❤️]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/02/11/what-happens-when-scientology-helps-you-reach-your-full-potential/comment-page-2/#comment-1741053">daisy</a>.</p>
<p>You should see me and my cell phone and all my other electronic devices lying in wait for me. And that is before I get to the emeters,electric boxes and PBX machines&#8230;❤️</p>
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