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	Comments on: Move over, Xenu: Scientology&#8217;s other great space opera figure, the Duke of Chug	</title>
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		By: ReallyMGM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ReallyMGM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-2/#comment-1729533&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

I did a trial of Affinity Photo and bought it and Designer. I am going to limp along with Pages and iStudio until Serif comes out with a page design program. I don&#039;t think Pageplus and Photoplus are Mac products unless you use Bootcamp (and I have never used it).
I have been skeptical about the Adobe Cloud service even though a good friend swears by it. He is just using it for Photoshop and Lightroom. 
When I started we were using those tiny box Macs and Pagemaker 4/5 to produce a 20+ page tabloid newspaper nightly. We started gathering everything at about 6 pm, and I would get bits and pieces to work with all night. Stories were constantly being changed and photos added. I would do it all on the computer, but would have to print and paste up in this primitive way. Everything had to be ready by 1 am for the courier to take it to our printer (in another state, no less). It would be back by 6 am, looking like a real newspaper despite the way we had to do it. 
Then Scripps Howard funded a better system for us with a new Mac lab, new computers in the newsroom, a program for an inner city newspaper for high school students. I actually had a screen that I could do facing pages and get my work done in 2 hours vs. 6. Of course, then they made me switch to Quark. I picked it up pretty fast even though the key commands make no sense whatsoever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-2/#comment-1729533">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>I did a trial of Affinity Photo and bought it and Designer. I am going to limp along with Pages and iStudio until Serif comes out with a page design program. I don&#8217;t think Pageplus and Photoplus are Mac products unless you use Bootcamp (and I have never used it).<br />
I have been skeptical about the Adobe Cloud service even though a good friend swears by it. He is just using it for Photoshop and Lightroom.<br />
When I started we were using those tiny box Macs and Pagemaker 4/5 to produce a 20+ page tabloid newspaper nightly. We started gathering everything at about 6 pm, and I would get bits and pieces to work with all night. Stories were constantly being changed and photos added. I would do it all on the computer, but would have to print and paste up in this primitive way. Everything had to be ready by 1 am for the courier to take it to our printer (in another state, no less). It would be back by 6 am, looking like a real newspaper despite the way we had to do it.<br />
Then Scripps Howard funded a better system for us with a new Mac lab, new computers in the newsroom, a program for an inner city newspaper for high school students. I actually had a screen that I could do facing pages and get my work done in 2 hours vs. 6. Of course, then they made me switch to Quark. I picked it up pretty fast even though the key commands make no sense whatsoever.</p>
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		By: Bert Allen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bert Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1731862&quot;&gt;dchoiceisalwaysrs&lt;/a&gt;.

I believe that the investigation and its results is subject to FOIA, but personal information, including personal income tax records would be omitted or severely redacted.  But I am not a tax attorney.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1731862">dchoiceisalwaysrs</a>.</p>
<p>I believe that the investigation and its results is subject to FOIA, but personal information, including personal income tax records would be omitted or severely redacted.  But I am not a tax attorney.</p>
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		By: Juicer77		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juicer77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1731750&quot;&gt;Eliza Doolittle&lt;/a&gt;.

Plus the emotional weight of knowing someone else keeps a record of all your wrongdoings. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1731750">Eliza Doolittle</a>.</p>
<p>Plus the emotional weight of knowing someone else keeps a record of all your wrongdoings. </p>
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		By: Juicer77		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juicer77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 07:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1731750&quot;&gt;Eliza Doolittle&lt;/a&gt;.

IMHO, yes that is exactly why they do it. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1731750">Eliza Doolittle</a>.</p>
<p>IMHO, yes that is exactly why they do it. </p>
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		By: Suppressive Tomato		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suppressive Tomato]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;C/Os and EDs are responsible for their orgs. They&#039;re not robots. It&#039;s only where they aren&#039;t pulling in money with a high powered vacuum cleaner and sending pes and auditors out glowing that Flag gets concerned.&quot;

*aren&#039;t pulling in money with a high powered vacuum cleaner* says it all]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;C/Os and EDs are responsible for their orgs. They&#8217;re not robots. It&#8217;s only where they aren&#8217;t pulling in money with a high powered vacuum cleaner and sending pes and auditors out glowing that Flag gets concerned.&#8221;</p>
<p>*aren&#8217;t pulling in money with a high powered vacuum cleaner* says it all</p>
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		By: dchoiceisalwaysrs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dchoiceisalwaysrs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1730316&quot;&gt;Bert Allen&lt;/a&gt;.

Good point. But I still wonder are private persons tax records exempt from public knowledge and remain so even after death?  The reason I ask is if in fact, and I believe it is, that the criminal? action of Hubbard inuring illegally a searchable record under the FOI act. I believe such a record must exist from the time ( 1963 or was it 1967 ) when the IRS initially revoked the &quot; Church of scientology of California &quot; exemption? And which the went forward,extras judicially withheld payments while battling for decades.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1730316">Bert Allen</a>.</p>
<p>Good point. But I still wonder are private persons tax records exempt from public knowledge and remain so even after death?  The reason I ask is if in fact, and I believe it is, that the criminal? action of Hubbard inuring illegally a searchable record under the FOI act. I believe such a record must exist from the time ( 1963 or was it 1967 ) when the IRS initially revoked the &#8221; Church of scientology of California &#8221; exemption? And which the went forward,extras judicially withheld payments while battling for decades.</p>
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		By: Eliza Doolittle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eliza Doolittle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1730243&quot;&gt;Juicer77&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, I&#039;ll check those sites out.

So, the covert recordings.. is that for the purpose of future blackmail opportunities in the event of defection etc?..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1730243">Juicer77</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, I&#8217;ll check those sites out.</p>
<p>So, the covert recordings.. is that for the purpose of future blackmail opportunities in the event of defection etc?..</p>
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		By: Gus_Cox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gus_Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1729061&quot;&gt;Sunny&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah, yes.  Wendy.  I could swear I saw her walking down Bronson Ave last time I was in LA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1729061">Sunny</a>.</p>
<p>Ah, yes.  Wendy.  I could swear I saw her walking down Bronson Ave last time I was in LA.</p>
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		By: Bert Allen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bert Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1730307&quot;&gt;dchoiceisalwaysrs&lt;/a&gt;.

No.  Legally the COS is actually several related corporations that have their own identity and &quot;life&quot; under the law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1730307">dchoiceisalwaysrs</a>.</p>
<p>No.  Legally the COS is actually several related corporations that have their own identity and &#8220;life&#8221; under the law.</p>
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		By: dchoiceisalwaysrs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dchoiceisalwaysrs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1728945&quot;&gt;Bert Allen&lt;/a&gt;.

Isn&#039;t Hubbard dead?/is that an avenue??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2017/01/28/move-over-xenu-scientologys-other-great-space-opera-figure-the-duke-of-chug/comment-page-1/#comment-1728945">Bert Allen</a>.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Hubbard dead?/is that an avenue??</p>
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