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	Comments on: Scientology and &#8216;aliens&#8217;: What did L. Ron Hubbard actually say about space invaders?	</title>
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		By: Edward Whalley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Whalley]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love the fact that he says that the woman &quot;can&#039;t answer a telephone&quot;. And yet, here she is, running a space station with her mid-century switchboard! Huzzah!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the fact that he says that the woman &#8220;can&#8217;t answer a telephone&#8221;. And yet, here she is, running a space station with her mid-century switchboard! Huzzah!</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cece]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1688492&quot;&gt;Harpoona Frittata&lt;/a&gt;.

Your own disillusionment ....
Exactly.  Some persons like you could think.  I was stunned like with a stun gun and didn&#039;t do any much of my own thinking and when I did I remember the few times over all those 35+ years.  
I was kicked out and left based on intuition ONLY.  Now I&#039;m finding logic in life and having a great time with it.  And to think my first course in S in 1974 was the Data Series LOL :)    All that tech does nothing for one once he has left his self behind.  Maybe I knew you at PAC?  I was on reg/public lines pretty much the entire 20 years at AOLA.  I had a bunch of different last names but Cece was my first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1688492">Harpoona Frittata</a>.</p>
<p>Your own disillusionment &#8230;.<br />
Exactly.  Some persons like you could think.  I was stunned like with a stun gun and didn&#8217;t do any much of my own thinking and when I did I remember the few times over all those 35+ years.<br />
I was kicked out and left based on intuition ONLY.  Now I&#8217;m finding logic in life and having a great time with it.  And to think my first course in S in 1974 was the Data Series LOL 🙂    All that tech does nothing for one once he has left his self behind.  Maybe I knew you at PAC?  I was on reg/public lines pretty much the entire 20 years at AOLA.  I had a bunch of different last names but Cece was my first.</p>
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		By: Skip Press		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip Press]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1666607&quot;&gt;Shorpy&lt;/a&gt;.

Now now, Shorps. I know you&#039;re a barista and you live in Stockton, that&#039;s all I want to know. http://fox40.com/2016/12/29/black-lives-matter-defends-prank-pulled-on-stockton-officer/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1666607">Shorpy</a>.</p>
<p>Now now, Shorps. I know you&#8217;re a barista and you live in Stockton, that&#8217;s all I want to know. <a href="http://fox40.com/2016/12/29/black-lives-matter-defends-prank-pulled-on-stockton-officer/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://fox40.com/2016/12/29/black-lives-matter-defends-prank-pulled-on-stockton-officer/</a></p>
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		By: Skip Press		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip Press]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690634&quot;&gt;Shorpy&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m no Paladino fan - that&#039;s just another idiot idea in your fevered brain. Thanks for admitting the obvious with your last line. You should call ISIS and say &quot;Help! I need a life!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690634">Shorpy</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no Paladino fan &#8211; that&#8217;s just another idiot idea in your fevered brain. Thanks for admitting the obvious with your last line. You should call ISIS and say &#8220;Help! I need a life!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Shorpy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shorpy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690613&quot;&gt;Skip Press&lt;/a&gt;.

Still got a lot of Scientology in ya huh Skip.
Bull baiting, distraction, vitriol, ad hominem.
And yeah, labelling people sure saves a lot of thinking, no?
So, you&#039;re a Paladino guy. Because I don&#039;t see you disavowing him or helping to distance your guy from him.
What do you think about his comments? Should or will your guy condemn them?
You know what LRH said, &quot;Birds of a feather.....&quot;
But I&#039;m the one acting out, and living an &quot;insane hate life&quot;.
Yes, how did you guess? My daddy hated me because I was an ugly baby from that botched coat hanger abortion, which was also a reason he hated me. 
And I&#039;m uglier than I&#039;ve ever been. I&#039;m hideous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690613">Skip Press</a>.</p>
<p>Still got a lot of Scientology in ya huh Skip.<br />
Bull baiting, distraction, vitriol, ad hominem.<br />
And yeah, labelling people sure saves a lot of thinking, no?<br />
So, you&#8217;re a Paladino guy. Because I don&#8217;t see you disavowing him or helping to distance your guy from him.<br />
What do you think about his comments? Should or will your guy condemn them?<br />
You know what LRH said, &#8220;Birds of a feather&#8230;..&#8221;<br />
But I&#8217;m the one acting out, and living an &#8220;insane hate life&#8221;.<br />
Yes, how did you guess? My daddy hated me because I was an ugly baby from that botched coat hanger abortion, which was also a reason he hated me.<br />
And I&#8217;m uglier than I&#8217;ve ever been. I&#8217;m hideous.</p>
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		By: Skip Press		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip Press]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690611&quot;&gt;Shorpy&lt;/a&gt;.

I fully sympathize with the horrible emotional turmoil you must suffer because your daddy hated you for being an ugly baby, but you really shouldn&#039;t act out in public.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690611">Shorpy</a>.</p>
<p>I fully sympathize with the horrible emotional turmoil you must suffer because your daddy hated you for being an ugly baby, but you really shouldn&#8217;t act out in public.</p>
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		By: Shorpy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shorpy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690600&quot;&gt;Skip Press&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey, he&#039;s YOUR guy. Enjoy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690600">Skip Press</a>.</p>
<p>Hey, he&#8217;s YOUR guy. Enjoy.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip Press]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690432&quot;&gt;Shorpy&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the trouble with you cowardly anonymous &quot;liberal&quot; knucklheads - you can&#039;t think. You blindly and wrongly assume that, because I&#039;m conservative, I would blindly goose-step along with any statement or action of any other person who supports or is a conservative. Which is, naturally, as stupid as a mealworm. Actually, that might be an insult to mealworms. You&#039;re no better than Nazis in your thinking, but they were National SOCIALISTS, weren&#039;t they?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1690432">Shorpy</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the trouble with you cowardly anonymous &#8220;liberal&#8221; knucklheads &#8211; you can&#8217;t think. You blindly and wrongly assume that, because I&#8217;m conservative, I would blindly goose-step along with any statement or action of any other person who supports or is a conservative. Which is, naturally, as stupid as a mealworm. Actually, that might be an insult to mealworms. You&#8217;re no better than Nazis in your thinking, but they were National SOCIALISTS, weren&#8217;t they?</p>
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		By: Shorpy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shorpy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1666554&quot;&gt;Skip Press&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Insane hate life&quot;?
Now THIS is an insane hate life.Rump&#039;s buddy. Enjoy:
&quot;The co-chairman of Donald Trump’s New York campaign, who said he hoped Barack Obama would die of mad cow disease and Michelle Obama would move to Africa and live in a cave with a gorilla, has said he will not resign from the Buffalo school board.

Despite the fact the Buffalo Board of Education voted to remove Carl Paladino, a New York developer and leading supporter of Mr Trump, on Thursday, he has said he will not be standing down. 

“[Barack] Obama catches mad cow disease after being caught having relations with a Her[e]ford,” he said.

Referring to Michelle Obama, he said: “I’d like her to return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortably in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-carl-paladino-buffalo-school-board-michelle-obama-barack-gorilla-a7502006.html
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-2/#comment-1666554">Skip Press</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Insane hate life&#8221;?<br />
Now THIS is an insane hate life.Rump&#8217;s buddy. Enjoy:<br />
&#8220;The co-chairman of Donald Trump’s New York campaign, who said he hoped Barack Obama would die of mad cow disease and Michelle Obama would move to Africa and live in a cave with a gorilla, has said he will not resign from the Buffalo school board.</p>
<p>Despite the fact the Buffalo Board of Education voted to remove Carl Paladino, a New York developer and leading supporter of Mr Trump, on Thursday, he has said he will not be standing down. </p>
<p>“[Barack] Obama catches mad cow disease after being caught having relations with a Her[e]ford,” he said.</p>
<p>Referring to Michelle Obama, he said: “I’d like her to return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortably in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla.”<br />
<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-carl-paladino-buffalo-school-board-michelle-obama-barack-gorilla-a7502006.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-carl-paladino-buffalo-school-board-michelle-obama-barack-gorilla-a7502006.html</a><br />
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		By: Harpoona Frittata		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harpoona Frittata]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1688473&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

Everyone who gets out seems to having somewhat different moments of revelation like yours concerning the cherch which makes their individual stories unique and interesting. I was long out of the cult before any of the Xenu/BT secret upper level stuff was leaked and published on the internet. And the same goes for Elron&#039;s affirmations too. My own disillusionment came more from knowing a few clears and OaTys who didn&#039;t seem all super powery to me in the least and when I pursued my personal inquiry into why that was so, I was pretty directly ordered not to go there...which to me has always had the exact opposite effect ;) since true independent inquiry and actual thinking for yourself is impossible within the cult, I fairly quickly found my way to the door!

Once you see through one lie, it&#039;s almost irresistible to keep on looking at everything else that you&#039;ve been fed in a more curious and critical way. And nowadays there are just so many of what you could call &quot;occasions of doubt,&quot; that it&#039;s hard to see how $cn has a chance of recruiting within the U.S. ... and everyone should take a really big win there (just don&#039;t ask me  to write up another damn success story ever again, k?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/12/scientology-and-aliens-what-did-l-ron-hubbard-actually-say-about-space-invaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1688473">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>Everyone who gets out seems to having somewhat different moments of revelation like yours concerning the cherch which makes their individual stories unique and interesting. I was long out of the cult before any of the Xenu/BT secret upper level stuff was leaked and published on the internet. And the same goes for Elron&#8217;s affirmations too. My own disillusionment came more from knowing a few clears and OaTys who didn&#8217;t seem all super powery to me in the least and when I pursued my personal inquiry into why that was so, I was pretty directly ordered not to go there&#8230;which to me has always had the exact opposite effect 😉 since true independent inquiry and actual thinking for yourself is impossible within the cult, I fairly quickly found my way to the door!</p>
<p>Once you see through one lie, it&#8217;s almost irresistible to keep on looking at everything else that you&#8217;ve been fed in a more curious and critical way. And nowadays there are just so many of what you could call &#8220;occasions of doubt,&#8221; that it&#8217;s hard to see how $cn has a chance of recruiting within the U.S. &#8230; and everyone should take a really big win there (just don&#8217;t ask me  to write up another damn success story ever again, k?)</p>
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