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		By: Qbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-1648785&quot;&gt;Panopea Abrupta&lt;/a&gt;.

hi Pan.  I can&#039;t find where your lastest carving was posted... but I wanted to show you these pieces.  Every single item is carved out of wood; everything you see in the photo.  The pencil holder is Diamond Willow.  The little vase, is burnt with electricity, Paper Birch.  I dunno the other woods used, but, omg, the boot was a gift from a 90 yr old wood whittler (a fishing customer), and the cigs &#038; the joint were bought from a Vietnam Vet down in Fla. who is &#039;disabled&#039; &#038; sells his art.  It&#039;s amazing work all &#039;round, yeah huh?!.  
c ya, Q https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/af8fe90f6154168bba46961e121d38ecd3c4977d420c41cccdae35b8da3324e1.png  https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee65d5138fb38ca09323ff799d77e707f53078a64ae3b81cc35fa19c831c4348.jpg 
oh &#038; p.s.  the &#039;selfie&#039; photo image was clipped from a fishing mag ~ I just liked it.]]></description>
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<p>hi Pan.  I can&#8217;t find where your lastest carving was posted&#8230; but I wanted to show you these pieces.  Every single item is carved out of wood; everything you see in the photo.  The pencil holder is Diamond Willow.  The little vase, is burnt with electricity, Paper Birch.  I dunno the other woods used, but, omg, the boot was a gift from a 90 yr old wood whittler (a fishing customer), and the cigs &amp; the joint were bought from a Vietnam Vet down in Fla. who is &#8216;disabled&#8217; &amp; sells his art.  It&#8217;s amazing work all &#8217;round, yeah huh?!.<br />
c ya, Q <a href="https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/af8fe90f6154168bba46961e121d38ecd3c4977d420c41cccdae35b8da3324e1.png" rel="nofollow ugc">https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/af8fe90f6154168bba46961e121d38ecd3c4977d420c41cccdae35b8da3324e1.png</a>  <a href="https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee65d5138fb38ca09323ff799d77e707f53078a64ae3b81cc35fa19c831c4348.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee65d5138fb38ca09323ff799d77e707f53078a64ae3b81cc35fa19c831c4348.jpg</a><br />
oh &amp; p.s.  the &#8216;selfie&#8217; photo image was clipped from a fishing mag ~ I just liked it.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2016 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-1649444&quot;&gt;Joe Howard&lt;/a&gt;.

My mind breaking moment was in private with Barbara in her small office at ASI, she DED Internal ASI about to be promoted to ED ASI position due to Norman Starkey&#039;s removal, and I was temporary Exec ESTO ASI (a position way above my ability) and I was failing to hire the MAA/Ethics Officer position that ASI desparately needed which supposedly would have prior helped get Norman&#039;s ethics in.   What a strange predicament, anyways my failing to get the hiring of ASI&#039;s Ethics Officer done quickly led to the moment when Barbara threatens me by jabbing a letter opener in the air, at my throat, granted we were sitting across from one another with her desk thankfully inbetween, she jabbed it a second time when I winced, just to show she meant it.

That broke my allegience, that moment.   After 20 years as a Sea Orger, getting even that fake but intended to show her determination to cause me bodily harm, even though I knew she didn&#039;t really mean it, she did thrust her letter opener at my throat, and she had just returned from apprenticing at RTC, some weeks or months before, and that just was pretty much my breaking point moment for allegience to Scientology.

Get to the &quot;top&quot; ranks, where I only had 3 people I technically had to say &quot;Sir&quot; to, Barbara, Shelly and DM were technically the only superiors to my then temporary position in ASI, and the &quot;top&quot; of the movment, people act like DM at his craziest.

Barbara I have to say, all prior to those final months in my ASI short career (I was at ASI first as computer guy  May 1992 until Sept 1995, then Sept 1995 til Dec 1995 I was the temporary Executive Establishment Officer in training)  was gracious and very supportive.   

Only after her &quot;training&quot; and apprenticing in the summer of 1995, where she apprenticed at RTC at Int, did she return to ASI and turn into a screaming bitch monster

I hope she&#039;s returned now, years since she&#039;s blown out of the Sea Org, her old gracious normalcy.

Her screaming swings though, I recall even prior to her summer of 1995 apprenticing at RTC, there were screamings Barbara did against Georgiana Lane then the Marketing lady at ASI, which were unlike any executive policy (Hubbard policy says do &quot;calling on the carpet&quot; in private, that&#039;s in policy; but in LRH own behavior on the Apollo, which is not superior to policy in the grading system of Hubbard&#039;s orthodoxy, Hubbard would have group shamings, which I think are why Miscavige amped up the group shamings in recent years since Hubbard&#039;s death, over top of the policy that says only do &quot;calling on the carpet&quot; in private).

It&#039;s all nutty wrong and no one should venture nto Scientology at all, for any reason.   The Hubbard rule system supports these extreme swings of  nuttiness of the &quot;top&quot; leaders, unfortunately.   (Knowledge Reports 1982 policy unfortunately invites &quot;black eye&quot; causing against &quot;bad/evil&quot; staff members; &quot;Corrupt Activities&quot; policy 1982 also, encourages &quot;stern confrontation&quot; of bad staffers also---both policies of 1982 that are date coincident with the Miscavige era of harsh heavy handedness, so Hubbard did have some policy supportive of harsh confrontation, and in my case, my &quot;calling on the carpet&quot; did occur in private, in Barbara&#039;s office, so the lesson is DON&#039;T join Scientology staff since Hubbard&#039;s rules will get you!)  

Chuck Beatty
ex OEC/FEBC Course Sup, ex Routing Forms Researcher and Writing Project, etc. 1975-2003 Sea Org]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-1649444">Joe Howard</a>.</p>
<p>My mind breaking moment was in private with Barbara in her small office at ASI, she DED Internal ASI about to be promoted to ED ASI position due to Norman Starkey&#8217;s removal, and I was temporary Exec ESTO ASI (a position way above my ability) and I was failing to hire the MAA/Ethics Officer position that ASI desparately needed which supposedly would have prior helped get Norman&#8217;s ethics in.   What a strange predicament, anyways my failing to get the hiring of ASI&#8217;s Ethics Officer done quickly led to the moment when Barbara threatens me by jabbing a letter opener in the air, at my throat, granted we were sitting across from one another with her desk thankfully inbetween, she jabbed it a second time when I winced, just to show she meant it.</p>
<p>That broke my allegience, that moment.   After 20 years as a Sea Orger, getting even that fake but intended to show her determination to cause me bodily harm, even though I knew she didn&#8217;t really mean it, she did thrust her letter opener at my throat, and she had just returned from apprenticing at RTC, some weeks or months before, and that just was pretty much my breaking point moment for allegience to Scientology.</p>
<p>Get to the &#8220;top&#8221; ranks, where I only had 3 people I technically had to say &#8220;Sir&#8221; to, Barbara, Shelly and DM were technically the only superiors to my then temporary position in ASI, and the &#8220;top&#8221; of the movment, people act like DM at his craziest.</p>
<p>Barbara I have to say, all prior to those final months in my ASI short career (I was at ASI first as computer guy  May 1992 until Sept 1995, then Sept 1995 til Dec 1995 I was the temporary Executive Establishment Officer in training)  was gracious and very supportive.   </p>
<p>Only after her &#8220;training&#8221; and apprenticing in the summer of 1995, where she apprenticed at RTC at Int, did she return to ASI and turn into a screaming bitch monster</p>
<p>I hope she&#8217;s returned now, years since she&#8217;s blown out of the Sea Org, her old gracious normalcy.</p>
<p>Her screaming swings though, I recall even prior to her summer of 1995 apprenticing at RTC, there were screamings Barbara did against Georgiana Lane then the Marketing lady at ASI, which were unlike any executive policy (Hubbard policy says do &#8220;calling on the carpet&#8221; in private, that&#8217;s in policy; but in LRH own behavior on the Apollo, which is not superior to policy in the grading system of Hubbard&#8217;s orthodoxy, Hubbard would have group shamings, which I think are why Miscavige amped up the group shamings in recent years since Hubbard&#8217;s death, over top of the policy that says only do &#8220;calling on the carpet&#8221; in private).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all nutty wrong and no one should venture nto Scientology at all, for any reason.   The Hubbard rule system supports these extreme swings of  nuttiness of the &#8220;top&#8221; leaders, unfortunately.   (Knowledge Reports 1982 policy unfortunately invites &#8220;black eye&#8221; causing against &#8220;bad/evil&#8221; staff members; &#8220;Corrupt Activities&#8221; policy 1982 also, encourages &#8220;stern confrontation&#8221; of bad staffers also&#8212;both policies of 1982 that are date coincident with the Miscavige era of harsh heavy handedness, so Hubbard did have some policy supportive of harsh confrontation, and in my case, my &#8220;calling on the carpet&#8221; did occur in private, in Barbara&#8217;s office, so the lesson is DON&#8217;T join Scientology staff since Hubbard&#8217;s rules will get you!)  </p>
<p>Chuck Beatty<br />
ex OEC/FEBC Course Sup, ex Routing Forms Researcher and Writing Project, etc. 1975-2003 Sea Org</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2016 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-1649407&quot;&gt;OTVIIIisGrrr8!&lt;/a&gt;.

And then charged for the privilege...?]]></description>
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<p>And then charged for the privilege&#8230;?</p>
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		By: Joe Howard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-1649483&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely.]]></description>
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<p>Absolutely.</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrrrr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-1650831&quot;&gt;LongtimeLurker&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep it was you!]]></description>
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<p>Yep it was you!</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-1649409&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

Well wait a minute!  Who is in charge of your life? You or the Bunker?  We are the premier ASC cult!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-1649409">Derek</a>.</p>
<p>Well wait a minute!  Who is in charge of your life? You or the Bunker?  We are the premier ASC cult!</p>
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		By: Juicer77		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juicer77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-1651000&quot;&gt;Ella Raitch&lt;/a&gt;.

You said it much better than I. xoxo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-1651000">Ella Raitch</a>.</p>
<p>You said it much better than I. xoxo</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boom! :)  avast ye matey, it&#039;s poirates!]]></description>
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		By: Princess Squishy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Princess Squishy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-1650837&quot;&gt;LongtimeLurker&lt;/a&gt;.

On the same note of &quot;challenging to not come out dumber after watching&quot; have you seen this video clip?
https://youtu.be/aQKgpm1SJmQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-1650837">LongtimeLurker</a>.</p>
<p>On the same note of &#8220;challenging to not come out dumber after watching&#8221; have you seen this video clip?<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/aQKgpm1SJmQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/aQKgpm1SJmQ</a></p>
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		By: Princess Squishy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Princess Squishy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/11/29/as-you-watch-leah-reminis-show-tonight-keep-these-people-disappeared-by-scientology-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-1650837&quot;&gt;LongtimeLurker&lt;/a&gt;.

generally I want my TV to provide me with thoughtless entertainment to make me laugh. Kind of want it to be a challenge to not make me more stupid when I watch it. I do watch Dancing with the Stars which of course is reality and I watch some judge shows after I get home for work sometimes. Mr. Squishy is going to watch Leah&#039;s show with me. he&#039;s isn&#039;t as interested in Scientology&#039;s downfall as I am but he is interested in it. We watched Going Clear together too]]></description>
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<p>generally I want my TV to provide me with thoughtless entertainment to make me laugh. Kind of want it to be a challenge to not make me more stupid when I watch it. I do watch Dancing with the Stars which of course is reality and I watch some judge shows after I get home for work sometimes. Mr. Squishy is going to watch Leah&#8217;s show with me. he&#8217;s isn&#8217;t as interested in Scientology&#8217;s downfall as I am but he is interested in it. We watched Going Clear together too</p>
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