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	Comments on: Chris Shelton: What Louis Theroux missed about the Scientology experience in his film	</title>
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		By: bonnydoe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jeeeeeez, I can&#039;t listen with Chris&#039;s shirt screaming at me... is the slogan a joke? I hope so....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeeeeeez, I can&#8217;t listen with Chris&#8217;s shirt screaming at me&#8230; is the slogan a joke? I hope so&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 17:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611499&quot;&gt;EnthralledObserver&lt;/a&gt;.

No that&#039;s not why you reject anything that anybody says who has been in the reporting business for years.  You rejected every professional journalist (except Tony-- I don&#039;t know why you haven&#039;t rejected him yet) in favor of Russian propagandists and inventive psychotics a long time before this particular incident happened, and the only reason you think the generally received account of what happened is a &quot;deliberate lie&quot; or that it was &quot;perpetrated by the US government&quot; is because you have already determined which sources to reject and which to swallow without question.  But at least we can stop pretending that you would ever bother to look at any sources I give you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611499">EnthralledObserver</a>.</p>
<p>No that&#8217;s not why you reject anything that anybody says who has been in the reporting business for years.  You rejected every professional journalist (except Tony&#8211; I don&#8217;t know why you haven&#8217;t rejected him yet) in favor of Russian propagandists and inventive psychotics a long time before this particular incident happened, and the only reason you think the generally received account of what happened is a &#8220;deliberate lie&#8221; or that it was &#8220;perpetrated by the US government&#8221; is because you have already determined which sources to reject and which to swallow without question.  But at least we can stop pretending that you would ever bother to look at any sources I give you.</p>
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		By: EnthralledObserver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EnthralledObserver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611456&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey, Robert... this might come as a surprise, but... HEARD IT!
Your article verbatim repeats mainstream media and I didn&#039;t believe them when they said it either.
I just mentioned above one deliberate lie perpetrated by your government and spread by mainstream media... and that&#039;s why I don&#039;t believe anything they say.  The lies are prolific and systemic and provable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611456">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>Hey, Robert&#8230; this might come as a surprise, but&#8230; HEARD IT!<br />
Your article verbatim repeats mainstream media and I didn&#8217;t believe them when they said it either.<br />
I just mentioned above one deliberate lie perpetrated by your government and spread by mainstream media&#8230; and that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t believe anything they say.  The lies are prolific and systemic and provable.</p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611330&quot;&gt;EnthralledObserver&lt;/a&gt;.

The article was not talking about a single incident but a lengthy history.  It is clear there is no point in sending you anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611330">EnthralledObserver</a>.</p>
<p>The article was not talking about a single incident but a lengthy history.  It is clear there is no point in sending you anything.</p>
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		By: Once_Born		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Once_Born]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611314&quot;&gt;thetastic&lt;/a&gt;.

He&#039;s worth it. I started to read his book expecting  an Australian perspective and found a whole lot more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611314">thetastic</a>.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s worth it. I started to read his book expecting  an Australian perspective and found a whole lot more.</p>
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		By: EnthralledObserver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EnthralledObserver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 04:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611134&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

I read it... it&#039;s still open now.  And is factually inaccurate.  There is zero evidence that Syrian army/Assad or the Russians were responsible for the UN aid convoy destruction... however there IS drone footage showing a rebel truck carrying a mortar driving along side it before it was destroyed, parked in line waiting to unload.  There were no craters or damage to the roads that would be there had it been an air/rocket attack, nor was there damage to the skeletons of the trucks consistent with such attacks.  So, the rebels were there, and they only evidence we see from their footage (White Helmets that plenty of evidence show are actually militants associated with ISIS and Al Nusra) is that there was fire.  They set the trucks and cargo on fire - set up propaganda photographs showing an old mortar shell with supposed cargo that appeared undamaged sprinkled around it.  
The UN report was inconclusive... they do not know for sure who was responsible... so why is your lying government pretending there is evidence when none has ever been provided?  The ceasefire, therefore, was not broken by Russia or Assad... because the UN aid trucks were not destroyed by those bound by the agreement in the first place.  And that aside... under a ceasefire, to which the US government was in agreement, the US led coalition bombed Syrian troops... cried &#039;oops&#039;, our mistake... then swiftly set up the UN aid truck attack.   The truth will eventually surface for you, where you can no longer keep your head in the sand, and you&#039;ll be forced to realise your own culpability in supporting the criminal element of your heinous government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611134">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>I read it&#8230; it&#8217;s still open now.  And is factually inaccurate.  There is zero evidence that Syrian army/Assad or the Russians were responsible for the UN aid convoy destruction&#8230; however there IS drone footage showing a rebel truck carrying a mortar driving along side it before it was destroyed, parked in line waiting to unload.  There were no craters or damage to the roads that would be there had it been an air/rocket attack, nor was there damage to the skeletons of the trucks consistent with such attacks.  So, the rebels were there, and they only evidence we see from their footage (White Helmets that plenty of evidence show are actually militants associated with ISIS and Al Nusra) is that there was fire.  They set the trucks and cargo on fire &#8211; set up propaganda photographs showing an old mortar shell with supposed cargo that appeared undamaged sprinkled around it.<br />
The UN report was inconclusive&#8230; they do not know for sure who was responsible&#8230; so why is your lying government pretending there is evidence when none has ever been provided?  The ceasefire, therefore, was not broken by Russia or Assad&#8230; because the UN aid trucks were not destroyed by those bound by the agreement in the first place.  And that aside&#8230; under a ceasefire, to which the US government was in agreement, the US led coalition bombed Syrian troops&#8230; cried &#8216;oops&#8217;, our mistake&#8230; then swiftly set up the UN aid truck attack.   The truth will eventually surface for you, where you can no longer keep your head in the sand, and you&#8217;ll be forced to realise your own culpability in supporting the criminal element of your heinous government.</p>
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		By: thetastic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetastic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 04:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1610892&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok. I hear you on the list. I am bumping Steve Canaane to the top of mine!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1610892">Once_Born</a>.</p>
<p>Ok. I hear you on the list. I am bumping Steve Canaane to the top of mine!</p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611100&quot;&gt;EnthralledObserver&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;his goal is to topple Assad&quot;  He has never made any secret of his belief that there can never be peace in Syria until Assad is gone.  That belief is completely correct, as you should be able to see by now.  However, it is also his policy that he does not want American soldiers dying there.
&quot;ISIS and every renamed ISIS ally from FSA, Al Nusra&quot;  Christ you are so stupid.  FSA (whom we support) and al-Nusra (who are enemies of ours, although Arab states who are supposed to be our friends send them weapons) along with the Kurds are the people who are actually fighting ISIS, and they are also the people that Putin and Assad bomb.  Putin and Assad never fight ISIS, they fight the enemies of ISIS and claim that that is the same thing.
&quot;Why else is Obama even there now?&quot;  We aren&#039;t &quot;there&quot;.
&quot;You still haven&#039;t pointed me to your regular sources&quot;  I sent you a long article, expecting that you would refuse to read it and pretend that I had not sent it to you.  You didn&#039;t disappoint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1611100">EnthralledObserver</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;his goal is to topple Assad&#8221;  He has never made any secret of his belief that there can never be peace in Syria until Assad is gone.  That belief is completely correct, as you should be able to see by now.  However, it is also his policy that he does not want American soldiers dying there.<br />
&#8220;ISIS and every renamed ISIS ally from FSA, Al Nusra&#8221;  Christ you are so stupid.  FSA (whom we support) and al-Nusra (who are enemies of ours, although Arab states who are supposed to be our friends send them weapons) along with the Kurds are the people who are actually fighting ISIS, and they are also the people that Putin and Assad bomb.  Putin and Assad never fight ISIS, they fight the enemies of ISIS and claim that that is the same thing.<br />
&#8220;Why else is Obama even there now?&#8221;  We aren&#8217;t &#8220;there&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;You still haven&#8217;t pointed me to your regular sources&#8221;  I sent you a long article, expecting that you would refuse to read it and pretend that I had not sent it to you.  You didn&#8217;t disappoint.</p>
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		By: EnthralledObserver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EnthralledObserver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1610757&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Obama has spent the last eight years fending off political pressure to invade Syria. HE HAS NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to stick any American troops into that mess.&quot;  You keep telling yourself that, Robert... his goal is to topple Assad - his own administration press releases prove that - The White House, The US State Department, Military Spokesmen, John Kerry,  that smug bitch Samantha Powers, Biden with his threats, and top it off with Soros puppet and Obama legacy holder, Hillary, directly threatening military war.  How do you think he&#039;s going to achieve that?  Can&#039;t attack Syrian army now because Russia is standing by them.  Will they sneak in a strike like they did the last ceasefire?  Sneaky, despicable fuckers - 60 men, Robert... 60 men, and over 100 injured - all so their ISIS buddies can take advantage and take over the military base!  ISIS and every renamed ISIS ally from FSA, Al Nusra, Al Quaeda, etc are the US proxy army - Obama doesn&#039;t need to put US servicemen on the ground yet - but he has an army on the ground already, make no mistake about it!  Funded and armed by the US through Saudi Arabia and Qatar... all pointed out in Wikileaks docs that show that Hillary was well aware that Saudi and Qatar were helping terrorist groups.  In her words, Robert - her words!
Why else is Obama even there now?  If his focus is Assad and not ISIS etc, all stated publicly by the administration press release reps, and attacking Assad is impossible now that Russia and Iran are assisting without sparking WAR that will drag the whole world into it, then why are they still there?!
You still haven&#039;t pointed me to your regular sources... and that&#039;s probably because we both know it&#039;s mainstream media.  And you call me a sheep. ffs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/20/chris-shelton-what-louis-theroux-missed-about-the-scientology-experience-in-his-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1610757">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama has spent the last eight years fending off political pressure to invade Syria. HE HAS NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to stick any American troops into that mess.&#8221;  You keep telling yourself that, Robert&#8230; his goal is to topple Assad &#8211; his own administration press releases prove that &#8211; The White House, The US State Department, Military Spokesmen, John Kerry,  that smug bitch Samantha Powers, Biden with his threats, and top it off with Soros puppet and Obama legacy holder, Hillary, directly threatening military war.  How do you think he&#8217;s going to achieve that?  Can&#8217;t attack Syrian army now because Russia is standing by them.  Will they sneak in a strike like they did the last ceasefire?  Sneaky, despicable fuckers &#8211; 60 men, Robert&#8230; 60 men, and over 100 injured &#8211; all so their ISIS buddies can take advantage and take over the military base!  ISIS and every renamed ISIS ally from FSA, Al Nusra, Al Quaeda, etc are the US proxy army &#8211; Obama doesn&#8217;t need to put US servicemen on the ground yet &#8211; but he has an army on the ground already, make no mistake about it!  Funded and armed by the US through Saudi Arabia and Qatar&#8230; all pointed out in Wikileaks docs that show that Hillary was well aware that Saudi and Qatar were helping terrorist groups.  In her words, Robert &#8211; her words!<br />
Why else is Obama even there now?  If his focus is Assad and not ISIS etc, all stated publicly by the administration press release reps, and attacking Assad is impossible now that Russia and Iran are assisting without sparking WAR that will drag the whole world into it, then why are they still there?!<br />
You still haven&#8217;t pointed me to your regular sources&#8230; and that&#8217;s probably because we both know it&#8217;s mainstream media.  And you call me a sheep. ffs</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, in the area anyway I think David Miscavige has become the Jacquelyn Kennedy Onasis of Scientology, the interview everyone wants but no one can get. The 1992 Ted Koppel taught them Scientology is best as a semi comprehensible, celebrity magnate science-religion with sealed off sections of interest (and purchase). Seriously, how many religious, or Ponzi-type financial schemes for that matter stand up to scrutiny when laid out flat on the table?
Yeah, it&#039;s about a flat white man in the sky who grants wishes as long as you don&#039;t do anything you actually enjoy and don&#039;t hate your neighbor even after he brings your lawnmower back broken...

Didn&#039;t Theroux say he tried to get interviews, open ended talk about what ever you like interviews with people in Scientology as was rebuffed and had to use what he could before he po&#039;d Marty, who probably A: knows things that are less than above board and B: he himself is still uncertain how he feels about them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in the area anyway I think David Miscavige has become the Jacquelyn Kennedy Onasis of Scientology, the interview everyone wants but no one can get. The 1992 Ted Koppel taught them Scientology is best as a semi comprehensible, celebrity magnate science-religion with sealed off sections of interest (and purchase). Seriously, how many religious, or Ponzi-type financial schemes for that matter stand up to scrutiny when laid out flat on the table?<br />
Yeah, it&#8217;s about a flat white man in the sky who grants wishes as long as you don&#8217;t do anything you actually enjoy and don&#8217;t hate your neighbor even after he brings your lawnmower back broken&#8230;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Theroux say he tried to get interviews, open ended talk about what ever you like interviews with people in Scientology as was rebuffed and had to use what he could before he po&#8217;d Marty, who probably A: knows things that are less than above board and B: he himself is still uncertain how he feels about them.</p>
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