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		By: Tony Ortega		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Ortega]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728231&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;ve been attacking people that have nothing to do with your beefs. Rather than outright ban you, I deleted a couple of posts. If you keep smearing people, you&#039;re gone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728231">jazzlover</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been attacking people that have nothing to do with your beefs. Rather than outright ban you, I deleted a couple of posts. If you keep smearing people, you&#8217;re gone.</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728191&quot;&gt;Tony Ortega&lt;/a&gt;.

You and I discussed all of this.  None of this is baseless speculation.  I&#039;d been attacked on at least 6 or 7 occasions that I can recall (and remember, when I first arrived here, I was doe-eyed and deferred to everybody), aside from being initially lured into an email convo with someone I thought was a native New Yorker now living in the Bay Area.  You can question what I&#039;m saying all you want, but I am an extremely good judge of character.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728191">Tony Ortega</a>.</p>
<p>You and I discussed all of this.  None of this is baseless speculation.  I&#8217;d been attacked on at least 6 or 7 occasions that I can recall (and remember, when I first arrived here, I was doe-eyed and deferred to everybody), aside from being initially lured into an email convo with someone I thought was a native New Yorker now living in the Bay Area.  You can question what I&#8217;m saying all you want, but I am an extremely good judge of character.</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728208&quot;&gt;everchangingmeezer (wogsy)&lt;/a&gt;.

Above what?  I&#039;m not seeing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728208">everchangingmeezer (wogsy)</a>.</p>
<p>Above what?  I&#8217;m not seeing it.</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728187&quot;&gt;everchangingmeezer (wogsy)&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL.  She did say she had me blocked.  Apparently saying what she said about me was ok with the moderator.  Fwiw, the 2 comments of mine are labeled &quot;removed&quot;.  Not sure why they aren&#039;t labeled &quot;deleted&quot;.  Very odd.  Didn&#039;t know there was a difference.  I will tell you that during one time I was trolled, the proxy was showing as being in the Bay Area, if that&#039;s any clue.  I think she lives up in northern CA.  Every comment during each of the troll occurrences sounded very bitchy and angry, sorta like a woman scorned :)  So the more I think about it, the more I believe it had to be her.  But I&#039;m positive he was involved somehow.  All I can tell you is that what was done was about as low as it gets on the net, and I&#039;ve seen a lot of crazy stuff on other boards - catfishing, men pretending to be women, men pretending to be kids, etc.  These all happened on music boards, btw.  LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728187">everchangingmeezer (wogsy)</a>.</p>
<p>LOL.  She did say she had me blocked.  Apparently saying what she said about me was ok with the moderator.  Fwiw, the 2 comments of mine are labeled &#8220;removed&#8221;.  Not sure why they aren&#8217;t labeled &#8220;deleted&#8221;.  Very odd.  Didn&#8217;t know there was a difference.  I will tell you that during one time I was trolled, the proxy was showing as being in the Bay Area, if that&#8217;s any clue.  I think she lives up in northern CA.  Every comment during each of the troll occurrences sounded very bitchy and angry, sorta like a woman scorned 🙂  So the more I think about it, the more I believe it had to be her.  But I&#8217;m positive he was involved somehow.  All I can tell you is that what was done was about as low as it gets on the net, and I&#8217;ve seen a lot of crazy stuff on other boards &#8211; catfishing, men pretending to be women, men pretending to be kids, etc.  These all happened on music boards, btw.  LOL</p>
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		By: Tony Ortega		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Ortega]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728187&quot;&gt;everchangingmeezer (wogsy)&lt;/a&gt;.

No flagging was necessary. I&#039;m like Santa Claus, you geniuses. I see you when you&#039;re sleeping, I see when you&#039;re awake, and I see when you&#039;re smearing people with baseless speculation. 

I deleted the comments to let you know you&#039;re both close to being banned if you keep up attacking people like a couple of pathetic gossips. If you&#039;ve been legitimately wronged by someone, let me know. But if you keep attacking people with your cute little confabs, even on old posts you think I&#039;m not looking at, you&#039;re both gone. 

I don&#039;t like banning people, but I will if you keep this up. Fair warning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728187">everchangingmeezer (wogsy)</a>.</p>
<p>No flagging was necessary. I&#8217;m like Santa Claus, you geniuses. I see you when you&#8217;re sleeping, I see when you&#8217;re awake, and I see when you&#8217;re smearing people with baseless speculation. </p>
<p>I deleted the comments to let you know you&#8217;re both close to being banned if you keep up attacking people like a couple of pathetic gossips. If you&#8217;ve been legitimately wronged by someone, let me know. But if you keep attacking people with your cute little confabs, even on old posts you think I&#8217;m not looking at, you&#8217;re both gone. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like banning people, but I will if you keep this up. Fair warning.</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728053&quot;&gt;everchangingmeezer (wogsy)&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree.  Unless the superheroes saw the comments :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1728053">everchangingmeezer (wogsy)</a>.</p>
<p>I agree.  Unless the superheroes saw the comments 🙂</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1727990&quot;&gt;everchangingmeezer (wogsy)&lt;/a&gt;.

A mod or T must&#039;ve deleted them.  I didn&#039;t.  Unless somebody saw them and reported them?  The people in question should know that I know anyway (that is, if it was either of them).  Maybe it will stop them from doing the same to others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1727990">everchangingmeezer (wogsy)</a>.</p>
<p>A mod or T must&#8217;ve deleted them.  I didn&#8217;t.  Unless somebody saw them and reported them?  The people in question should know that I know anyway (that is, if it was either of them).  Maybe it will stop them from doing the same to others.</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1604688&quot;&gt;everchangingmeezer (wogsy)&lt;/a&gt;.

My last 2 posts in response to you were removed, and your first response (the superhero one) to me was deleted.  Do you know what happened?  All I can figure is it was because names were named.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-2/#comment-1604688">everchangingmeezer (wogsy)</a>.</p>
<p>My last 2 posts in response to you were removed, and your first response (the superhero one) to me was deleted.  Do you know what happened?  All I can figure is it was because names were named.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cece]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2016 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-1/#comment-1603995&quot;&gt;Liberated&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m way behind responding but I hope you see this.   My 3rd child just came so fast I had to get a girl friend to deliver that was in the lobby or I would have had to do it myself with the help of my 8 and 4 yr olds.  The 5th child, I planned for my husband to do it himself and did not tell him till 6:30am after water broke.  The rule had come out no more children while I was PG and he&#039;d never had a child and I felt it important he do it himself.  He was first white as a sheet but of course did fine.  Money or help wasn&#039;t a problem.  I believe AOLA had crew that were not so wrapped up in their post 24/7.   (mid 80s)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-1/#comment-1603995">Liberated</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m way behind responding but I hope you see this.   My 3rd child just came so fast I had to get a girl friend to deliver that was in the lobby or I would have had to do it myself with the help of my 8 and 4 yr olds.  The 5th child, I planned for my husband to do it himself and did not tell him till 6:30am after water broke.  The rule had come out no more children while I was PG and he&#8217;d never had a child and I felt it important he do it himself.  He was first white as a sheet but of course did fine.  Money or help wasn&#8217;t a problem.  I believe AOLA had crew that were not so wrapped up in their post 24/7.   (mid 80s)</p>
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		By: Noesis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noesis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-1/#comment-1605924&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.



Take it easy...this is a blog discussion...it&#039;s not that important.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/14/older-than-pythagoras-and-guaranteed-to-raise-your-iq-what-scientology-promised-in-1954/comment-page-1/#comment-1605924">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>Take it easy&#8230;this is a blog discussion&#8230;it&#8217;s not that important.</p>
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