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	Comments on: How Scientology plans to take over the world: By boring us to death, apparently	</title>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1595987&quot;&gt;sashiebgood&lt;/a&gt;.

Probably not, but truth is truth.]]></description>
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<p>Probably not, but truth is truth.</p>
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		By: sashiebgood		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1594705&quot;&gt;Intergalactic Walrus&lt;/a&gt;.

what the what? what? I can&#039;t even with these people. I would think that Jason Bateman would find this entire exchange hilarious. ]]></description>
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<p>what the what? what? I can&#8217;t even with these people. I would think that Jason Bateman would find this entire exchange hilarious. </p>
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		By: sashiebgood		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1595408&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

I had a similar experience a couple of months ago in the parking lot of the supermarket. A man approached me and asked if I would be going to the rally that was going to be held for Trump at the military school he went to, which is near my job. I cringed inwardly, bc honestly WTF was it about me that day that would make anyone think I was a Trump supporter? but politely said, No, I won&#039;t be attending. The man said &quot;oh, you&#039;re not one of those Hillary nuts, are you?&quot;  So, question with no real right answer, right? I said, well, I haven&#039;t really decided yet,. (this was still during g the time when Bernie Sanders was still in the running, but I wasn&#039;t opening that can of worms with the guy) He proceeded to tell me proudly that Trump attended that school, did I know? I said that yes, I did know that, and I also knew that when the school was at the brink of bankruptcy that they had asked Trump for a donation. Trump responded that he would only donate money to the school - that by the way he touted up and down as his &quot;military experience&quot; during this run - if they would name their gymnasium after him. the school, NYMA declined. as far as I know, he never helped them. And I told the man I  the parking lot that I didn&#039;t think that was a good indication of Trump caring about anything other than himself and what makes him look good at the time.  The man seemed surprised that I would know or care about the history of Trump in our little corner of not-quite-upstate NY, and kind of mumbled that he hadn&#039;t known that and that I should have a good day. I&#039;m not trying to make any kind of political statement here, but I really hope that by telling that guy the truth about his choice, that maybe he did a little research, maybe he broke out of the mold. idk. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1595408">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>I had a similar experience a couple of months ago in the parking lot of the supermarket. A man approached me and asked if I would be going to the rally that was going to be held for Trump at the military school he went to, which is near my job. I cringed inwardly, bc honestly WTF was it about me that day that would make anyone think I was a Trump supporter? but politely said, No, I won&#8217;t be attending. The man said &#8220;oh, you&#8217;re not one of those Hillary nuts, are you?&#8221;  So, question with no real right answer, right? I said, well, I haven&#8217;t really decided yet,. (this was still during g the time when Bernie Sanders was still in the running, but I wasn&#8217;t opening that can of worms with the guy) He proceeded to tell me proudly that Trump attended that school, did I know? I said that yes, I did know that, and I also knew that when the school was at the brink of bankruptcy that they had asked Trump for a donation. Trump responded that he would only donate money to the school &#8211; that by the way he touted up and down as his &#8220;military experience&#8221; during this run &#8211; if they would name their gymnasium after him. the school, NYMA declined. as far as I know, he never helped them. And I told the man I  the parking lot that I didn&#8217;t think that was a good indication of Trump caring about anything other than himself and what makes him look good at the time.  The man seemed surprised that I would know or care about the history of Trump in our little corner of not-quite-upstate NY, and kind of mumbled that he hadn&#8217;t known that and that I should have a good day. I&#8217;m not trying to make any kind of political statement here, but I really hope that by telling that guy the truth about his choice, that maybe he did a little research, maybe he broke out of the mold. idk. </p>
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		By: beauty for ashes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1595361&quot;&gt;Ella Raitch&lt;/a&gt;.

I never focused on anything else, I never could really have a boyfriend or a social life.  It was always a long commute too. God bless ya for corralling the kids, how can they not have a plan for that. Guess what guys, they&#039;re not big thetans in little bodies! LOL.  One time I played titania in midsummer&#039;s nights dream, and all my fairy girls were these awesome 15 year old girls who all got along. I seriously loved them. One night I taught them all to moon walk, that was my favorite memory. They were just really ambitious good smart girls, I was clearly spoiled. 
  Seven hours and didn&#039;t get through. So I suspect the stage manager is not wrangling the kids either. and you would need dressers, even if it is people who are not on stage at the moment. OOOOh it&#039;s coming soooon I&#039;m soo excited for you. Give it your ALLLL!!!!!  &#060;3 &#060;3 &#060;3 beauty]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1595361">Ella Raitch</a>.</p>
<p>I never focused on anything else, I never could really have a boyfriend or a social life.  It was always a long commute too. God bless ya for corralling the kids, how can they not have a plan for that. Guess what guys, they&#8217;re not big thetans in little bodies! LOL.  One time I played titania in midsummer&#8217;s nights dream, and all my fairy girls were these awesome 15 year old girls who all got along. I seriously loved them. One night I taught them all to moon walk, that was my favorite memory. They were just really ambitious good smart girls, I was clearly spoiled.<br />
  Seven hours and didn&#8217;t get through. So I suspect the stage manager is not wrangling the kids either. and you would need dressers, even if it is people who are not on stage at the moment. OOOOh it&#8217;s coming soooon I&#8217;m soo excited for you. Give it your ALLLL!!!!!  &lt;3 &lt;3 &lt;3 beauty</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 07:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The tone in Tony&#039;s voice when MidnightRider. cuckoo o&#039;clock says &quot;Operation Sniwflake&quot; is priceless. That alone was worth the price of admission!

What a clash of sensibilities and common-sense reasoning! I am actually quite impressed by Tony&#039;s patient but firm insistance the face of all that &quot;What if...?&quot; &quot;In Seach of...&quot; hooey. It is not easy to go on a show, tell the truth, and then refuse to play the role the host wants you to. It is kind of like being invited to Thanksgiving Dinner by people you only find out are deeply racist during the first course. I mean, you ARE their guest, right? So where do you draw the line? Correct the, when they mistate facts? Say whatever racial epithet they are using is hateful? Just that it makes you uncomfortable...?
Perhaps dining with very religious people would be a better example, whether you are of their religion to a lesser degree of fanaticism, of another creed, or simply someone living their lives without thanking the invisible for it, do you bow your head in prayer? What if they ask you to say grace? To kneel and pray with them? Bible sing-alongs? Covers your head, face, neck, whatever? 
I mean they are kind, generous enough to have invited you into their house...?

Personally, I try and keep my head down, bow it in respect and keep silent whilst they do what they need to, but answer honestly when asked about my beliefs. For prejudiced talk (&quot;My ex&#039;s Croation father , at dinner a few days after Obama&#039;s inauguration asked me how I felt now that &quot;Those monkeys (&#039;macaques&#039;, which is a much more racist term in France - more the equivalent of the &#039;n&#039; word than say, &quot;nègre&#039;, which is still used in everyday parlance, much to many American&#039;s shock as they presume it is the same thing. But, &quot;macaque&quot; comes out of your mouth and you are not a zoologist or watching a nature documentary, then the Hunt for the Racist is over, and You. Are. It.) have taken over?&quot;

There I calmly .told him that I had voted for Mr Obama, was proud of it and as usual would hope for the best but expect the worst. That I thought all people, even presidents should be judged by what they say and do, and not by the color of their skin.

And it worked! There was a pause, a long, pregnant, perilous, purifying pause as you saw the struggle with lifelong prejudice and the potential for peaceful harmony played out on his not unpleasant peasant features...and the hatred left his face like a dark orc army retreating over a hill, leaving the forehead smoo -- 

Nah, I&#039;m just screwing with you. He just kept on going, and I tuned him out like he was Racist Radio, or something equally awful, like a Miscavige speech, Travoltas hairpoede, Nickelback or Hall and Oates. 

It was as easy and effective as slamming the door on an AmWay salesman.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tone in Tony&#8217;s voice when MidnightRider. cuckoo o&#8217;clock says &#8220;Operation Sniwflake&#8221; is priceless. That alone was worth the price of admission!</p>
<p>What a clash of sensibilities and common-sense reasoning! I am actually quite impressed by Tony&#8217;s patient but firm insistance the face of all that &#8220;What if&#8230;?&#8221; &#8220;In Seach of&#8230;&#8221; hooey. It is not easy to go on a show, tell the truth, and then refuse to play the role the host wants you to. It is kind of like being invited to Thanksgiving Dinner by people you only find out are deeply racist during the first course. I mean, you ARE their guest, right? So where do you draw the line? Correct the, when they mistate facts? Say whatever racial epithet they are using is hateful? Just that it makes you uncomfortable&#8230;?<br />
Perhaps dining with very religious people would be a better example, whether you are of their religion to a lesser degree of fanaticism, of another creed, or simply someone living their lives without thanking the invisible for it, do you bow your head in prayer? What if they ask you to say grace? To kneel and pray with them? Bible sing-alongs? Covers your head, face, neck, whatever?<br />
I mean they are kind, generous enough to have invited you into their house&#8230;?</p>
<p>Personally, I try and keep my head down, bow it in respect and keep silent whilst they do what they need to, but answer honestly when asked about my beliefs. For prejudiced talk (&#8220;My ex&#8217;s Croation father , at dinner a few days after Obama&#8217;s inauguration asked me how I felt now that &#8220;Those monkeys (&#8216;macaques&#8217;, which is a much more racist term in France &#8211; more the equivalent of the &#8216;n&#8217; word than say, &#8220;nègre&#8217;, which is still used in everyday parlance, much to many American&#8217;s shock as they presume it is the same thing. But, &#8220;macaque&#8221; comes out of your mouth and you are not a zoologist or watching a nature documentary, then the Hunt for the Racist is over, and You. Are. It.) have taken over?&#8221;</p>
<p>There I calmly .told him that I had voted for Mr Obama, was proud of it and as usual would hope for the best but expect the worst. That I thought all people, even presidents should be judged by what they say and do, and not by the color of their skin.</p>
<p>And it worked! There was a pause, a long, pregnant, perilous, purifying pause as you saw the struggle with lifelong prejudice and the potential for peaceful harmony played out on his not unpleasant peasant features&#8230;and the hatred left his face like a dark orc army retreating over a hill, leaving the forehead smoo &#8212; </p>
<p>Nah, I&#8217;m just screwing with you. He just kept on going, and I tuned him out like he was Racist Radio, or something equally awful, like a Miscavige speech, Travoltas hairpoede, Nickelback or Hall and Oates. </p>
<p>It was as easy and effective as slamming the door on an AmWay salesman.</p>
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		By: antibity		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-1594136&quot;&gt;J. Swift&lt;/a&gt;.

and a dramatizing exterior decorator as well]]></description>
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<p>and a dramatizing exterior decorator as well</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ella Raitch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1595197&quot;&gt;beauty for ashes&lt;/a&gt;.

Ooh yes. A few creative differences. The cast is mostly people who haven&#039;t played with this company before, and the crew are mostly people who have been with the company for decades. It&#039;s a bit tiring trying to remain upbeat around it all. Also, we have a lot of kids and no-one really managing costume etc backstage. I&#039;ve taken on a bit of a den-mother role. We did our first full run through on Sunday with whatever costumes and props were ready. We were there for 7 hours and didn&#039;t get through. I was so pumped I couldn&#039;t get to sleep till about 3am. It&#039;s difficult to focus on anything else at the moment.]]></description>
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<p>Ooh yes. A few creative differences. The cast is mostly people who haven&#8217;t played with this company before, and the crew are mostly people who have been with the company for decades. It&#8217;s a bit tiring trying to remain upbeat around it all. Also, we have a lot of kids and no-one really managing costume etc backstage. I&#8217;ve taken on a bit of a den-mother role. We did our first full run through on Sunday with whatever costumes and props were ready. We were there for 7 hours and didn&#8217;t get through. I was so pumped I couldn&#8217;t get to sleep till about 3am. It&#8217;s difficult to focus on anything else at the moment.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1595195&quot;&gt;beauty for ashes&lt;/a&gt;.

beauty you can live stream  .. that way you can start from the beginning..

http://www.logotv.com/shows/rupauls-all-stars-drag-race]]></description>
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<p>beauty you can live stream  .. that way you can start from the beginning..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.logotv.com/shows/rupauls-all-stars-drag-race" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.logotv.com/shows/rupauls-all-stars-drag-race</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2016 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/10/02/how-scientology-plans-to-take-over-the-world-by-boring-us-to-death-apparently/comment-page-2/#comment-1595284&quot;&gt;abdaman&lt;/a&gt;.

Geezy Peeezy. I hate scientology&#039;s sleeziness! Crap like that makes me want to puke.  https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/155434ee950514f19390a40044cac77ffa58723246de5e2a9a10e98e9aabf174.jpg]]></description>
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<p>Geezy Peeezy. I hate scientology&#8217;s sleeziness! Crap like that makes me want to puke.  <a href="https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/155434ee950514f19390a40044cac77ffa58723246de5e2a9a10e98e9aabf174.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/155434ee950514f19390a40044cac77ffa58723246de5e2a9a10e98e9aabf174.jpg</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The other night I saw an actual commercial on TV for scientology volunteer ministers (see pic of them above). It really weirded me out and I almost choked on my ice cream. It was late night on the channel that plays Forensic Files now, I think HLN (a cnn channel)? Aren&#039;t there any rules regarding who can place adverts on TV? I mean, would Nation of Islam, Children of God, or Al Queda be able to just put a commercial on tv and nobody at the station bats an eye/is worried about the business&#039; image? I understand that as long as there is no profanity or nothing offensive in the material itself a commercial would probably be allowed to air, BUT do the past acts committed by the group behind the commercial not count for anything to CNN? Whatever it was just weird, and if you didn&#039;t look closely at the bottom of the screen you would not have even realized it was Scientology-related -- it just looked liked your typical mission of happy kids running around the globe trying &quot;save&quot; everyone with their whiteness. But that&#039;s a whole nother can of worms!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other night I saw an actual commercial on TV for scientology volunteer ministers (see pic of them above). It really weirded me out and I almost choked on my ice cream. It was late night on the channel that plays Forensic Files now, I think HLN (a cnn channel)? Aren&#8217;t there any rules regarding who can place adverts on TV? I mean, would Nation of Islam, Children of God, or Al Queda be able to just put a commercial on tv and nobody at the station bats an eye/is worried about the business&#8217; image? I understand that as long as there is no profanity or nothing offensive in the material itself a commercial would probably be allowed to air, BUT do the past acts committed by the group behind the commercial not count for anything to CNN? Whatever it was just weird, and if you didn&#8217;t look closely at the bottom of the screen you would not have even realized it was Scientology-related &#8212; it just looked liked your typical mission of happy kids running around the globe trying &#8220;save&#8221; everyone with their whiteness. But that&#8217;s a whole nother can of worms!</p>
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