Thank you, Robert! Her heinous comments are so filled with misinformation and hate and they make me sick! That mindset is so repugnant, it leaves me speechless. It calms my soul to see your thoughtful, intelligent responses.

(sorry to respond on old post, been busy fighting battles irl and now trying to catch up).

I’d agree Chuck.

You don’t accept pictures or eyewitness testimony: I don’t know what you mean by “categorical” evidence, but it sounds very much as if your evidentiary standards depend on what you are willing to believe. As for the Putinist laws, they are public record. Even in Nazi Germany it was never actually illegal to speak positively about Jews: this is scapegoating at its most naked.
“Sunni muslim ‘refugees’ by the thousands who literally throw gays off buildings” There has never been a case of any refugee in our country throwing anyone off a building. What you mean is that some people in the country they are refugees FROM do such things, and therefore you lump the perpetrators and the victims together, because they are the same color?
“I’ve also come across several Syrian refugees who have resettled in
western nations (‘Syriangirl’ is one – google her) online who say Syria
was a great country (by their standard, not necessarily western
standard) before uninvited western intervention ” The ugly repression by the Assad regime and the bloody revolts against it have been going on for decades, before the west had any influence there whatsoever. The regime was created by the USSR, and opposition to the regime was created by the regime’s own cruelty.

There are several reasons. As part of personal recovery ex cult members benefit from undoing the influence placed upon them. Second by explaining the fraud in many terms both broad and at times in exacting details it helps others to see the methods Hubbard used as well.

The influence of Scientology does not just fade away.

It’s NOT that I don’t see any problem with it – it’s that there is NO categorical evidence that such crimes are happening as you describe! It seems to be fabricated. You can’t point to the evidence… you don’t even want to look at the possibility that there is none. You seem to like the idea that gays are perpetual victims, so even when no crime exists you seem to delight in making it up, escalating it until someone gives in to you. It’s not happening, Robert. There might be some remnant gay hate/violence – but it isn’t state sanctioned – Putin is not responsible. Russia’s laws are their business NOT yours! Worry about your own country including the importation of Sunni muslim ‘refugees’ by the thousands who literally throw gays off buildings because they hate them… I rather think that ought to worry you more.
In the material I gave you the genuine political opposition to the Syrian government are reportedly on Assad’s side too – they know who the ‘rebels’ really are that the US is supporting – they are outsiders – not Syrians. I’ve also come across several Syrian refugees who have resettled in western nations (‘Syriangirl’ is one – google her) online who say Syria was a great country (by their standard, not necessarily western standard) before uninvited western intervention (inciting those who were merely unsatisified into a furious uprising)… and now paid outsider mercenaries supported by the US and Saudi Arabia (Sunnis – so called moderate rebel opposition who are really ISIS by several names) have destroyed the country… along with US illegal bombing. Whatever crimes you perceive the Assad government/s have perpetrated the US government has visited upon the region crimes and destruction much, much worse in destabilising it the way this interference has done. Putin has the right idea – promote peace in the area and then advocate for democratic government change. Obama and Clinton can only ever think of change via terms of war and violence – just listen to that silly bitch – ready to wage war on Russia if they merely suspect them of hacking when she’s president – what a fucking retard.
Face the fact that the barbarians in these situations aren’t Putin and Assad… it’s the Obama administration and Clinton too. They are lying their arses off to incriminate those they wish to unseat because they are in the way of their globalist goals… just like Quaddafi and Sadam. Iran is next on the list.

It’s not that gays don’t have “the red carpet rolled out for them”: it’s that they are designated a scapegoat group whom it is actually illegal to say anything positive about; it is even illegal for a gay person himself to claim not to be a monster; anyone who speaks for them will be beaten or killed by the police or by gangs whom the police will turn a blind eye to. This is more extreme than the scapegoat status of the Jews in the first few years of the Nazi regime, and is tending toward the same outcome– but you, of course, don’t see any problem with it.
In Syria, the Assad family has exerted dictatorial control for over half a century, treats ethnic and religious groups which make up half the country as scapegoat groups forbidden any role in government, and when anybody rebels, they respond with mass slaughters– and you respond, of course they mass-slaughter rebels, what would any dictator do? I would keep on trying to explain to you why you are viewed as such a singularly disgusting creature, but you seem to be too far gone not only to acquire any moral sense yourself, but even to understand that others have one.

If that’s happening in YOUR country then I have no problem with you encouraging your government to act… but the US is not Syria… nor is it Russia – keep your government at home to deal with the imperfection that is rife throughout your country. I remember vividly how you scolded me and told me I don’t know anything about your country and your elections and how I needn’t lecture you because I have no idea as I don’t live there… well… here’s a perfect example of your hypocrisy.
Your government now even has the audacity to blame Russia for the ceasefire failing, when your government deliberately targeted Syrian troops with air bombing and accused Russia of targeting a UN aid convoy with an unmarked jet – which now turns out wasn’t a jet at all – and US supported militants were using it for cover to travel? Fuck me… the truth comes out… your government is the most corrupt, violent and criminal entity on the planet and you whine about gays not having the red carpet rolled out for them in Russia? Pull your head out of your arse and take a look in the mirror for once!

So many good points.

The conundrum of the meritless task that’s still not been done of dissecting in detail the Bridge to Total Freedom in all of its quackery details.

Why give a crank quack subject that messes people’s minds any kind of detailed study?

The grand Bridge to Total Freedom Hubbard pile of quackery just keeps getting sold by this fake religion.

From designating a large group of people as “undesirables” whom you will scapegoat for every problem in the world, insult at every opportunity, and assault if you can get away with it, to mass murder is a shorter step than we prefer to think. Usually of course the mass murderers and their supporters engage in systematic denial, pretending that it isn’t happening or that the victims must have done something to deserve it. You crossed that line so long ago you don’t even recognize anymore that other people regard it as a line.

Urgh… you’ve brought me no facts… just opinion pieces and unconfirmed anecdotes.

Yes, I’ve read these rumours, of course… but there is no evidence for them. That’s the difference. No evidence… just speculation based on western media bias. At least I address the information you bring to the discussion, you completely ignore the other side of the story, the evidence and anecdotes I bring for you to examine. You’ve not once mentioned them. Are you so biased that you refuse to consider there might be a point of view that does not support perpetual victim-hood?

There is NO evidence to prove either Putin or Assad have committed the crimes you accuse them of.

There is evidence of uprising against the Assad family and governments. What would you have them do? Allow the wahabis to overrun them and lay down to make it easier to slaughter them? Of course they would have fought back… and they have the right to do so. Perhaps that is what has gone on… not war crimes or attacking their ‘people’ at all. Apart from the fact that it makes little sense for a leader to do so – that would be unsustainable – you have to acknowledge that there are other moral standpoints in the world.
There is also evidence that Putin works to ensure a certain moral standard in his country… but no evidence he’s committed any actual crime. Whatever view western media present there is compelling views presented by others to counter it or dispel it.
I don’t necessarily agree with either of them, and would fight against some of their values being implemented in MY country… but YOU have to understand that the US is not the moral compass for the WORLD – you MUST not interfere in their country unless asked. It’s your opinion they are evil… other actual citizens say they love them and appreciate all they have done for their countries. Western media lies (and yes, they have been caught lying) have muddied the waters so it’s difficult to ascertain the actual truth, and it takes an open mind to sift through the propaganda to find it. Your mind is so closed because of your prejudiced belief that ‘progressive’ is ‘right’ – it’s not necessarily – it’s just one view.
So… I continue my scouring of the internet for facts so I can form my own opinion… that’s so evil, right?