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	Comments on: Steven Mango, who appears in Theroux film, calls police to Scientology facility over assault	</title>
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		By: Motz55		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2016 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just watched Steven Mango&#039;s video about the body slam, the Karate chop, and how the nut jobs laughed in his face. It reminded me of the many bizarre videos of Scientology morons attacking &quot;SPs&quot;, berating German critics visiting the US (&quot;Nazi criminals, go back to Germany!&quot;,) or &quot;squirrel busters&quot; camped outside people&#039;s homes, and others who use perverted verbal assaults: &quot;What are your crimes?&quot; &quot;How many kids did you molest today?&quot;  So, the crazies reach a state of &quot;Clear&quot; and maybe &quot;OT&quot;... their mission to save planet Earth. They lie, lie, lie, about Xenu, the mythic freak who contaminated the rest of us, and they downplay LRH&#039;s visit to the Van Allen belt. (That must have been quite a trip!) Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Anne Archer all do a terrible disservice to young aspiring actors/actresses, like Steven Mango, who wind in the clutches of Scientologists there to prey on their vulnerabilities. Many wind up losing thousands...careers ruined. Hat&#039;s off to you Tom. 

The attackers, who body-slammed Mango, are nothing more than course-trained goons. I witnessed similar methods of savage abuse years ago in Communist countries. Scientology&#039;s magazine &quot;Freedom&quot; is a farce, articles written by propagandists. Many senior members, Marc Yager, Jenny Linson, and Dave Bloomberg, seem mentally unstable and have this sickly look when seen in public. This is what I posted to Steven Mango, whom I think, even after his experiences, still seems vulnerable:  &quot;You know how desperate and bizarre they are, especially the outside staff and security. In your film, you detailed how Scientologists cheated and lied to you. Avoid them like the plague. Get on with your life. If you feel a need to protest, don&#039;t go alone. 
They&#039;re trained to make you suffer. How often have they laughed in your face? They are lunatics.﻿&quot;  I have nothing but contempt for the leadership of Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched Steven Mango&#8217;s video about the body slam, the Karate chop, and how the nut jobs laughed in his face. It reminded me of the many bizarre videos of Scientology morons attacking &#8220;SPs&#8221;, berating German critics visiting the US (&#8220;Nazi criminals, go back to Germany!&#8221;,) or &#8220;squirrel busters&#8221; camped outside people&#8217;s homes, and others who use perverted verbal assaults: &#8220;What are your crimes?&#8221; &#8220;How many kids did you molest today?&#8221;  So, the crazies reach a state of &#8220;Clear&#8221; and maybe &#8220;OT&#8221;&#8230; their mission to save planet Earth. They lie, lie, lie, about Xenu, the mythic freak who contaminated the rest of us, and they downplay LRH&#8217;s visit to the Van Allen belt. (That must have been quite a trip!) Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Anne Archer all do a terrible disservice to young aspiring actors/actresses, like Steven Mango, who wind in the clutches of Scientologists there to prey on their vulnerabilities. Many wind up losing thousands&#8230;careers ruined. Hat&#8217;s off to you Tom. </p>
<p>The attackers, who body-slammed Mango, are nothing more than course-trained goons. I witnessed similar methods of savage abuse years ago in Communist countries. Scientology&#8217;s magazine &#8220;Freedom&#8221; is a farce, articles written by propagandists. Many senior members, Marc Yager, Jenny Linson, and Dave Bloomberg, seem mentally unstable and have this sickly look when seen in public. This is what I posted to Steven Mango, whom I think, even after his experiences, still seems vulnerable:  &#8220;You know how desperate and bizarre they are, especially the outside staff and security. In your film, you detailed how Scientologists cheated and lied to you. Avoid them like the plague. Get on with your life. If you feel a need to protest, don&#8217;t go alone.<br />
They&#8217;re trained to make you suffer. How often have they laughed in your face? They are lunatics.﻿&#8221;  I have nothing but contempt for the leadership of Scientology.</p>
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		By: Anony-Lurker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554617&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

I thought I told you to go away, you self important little dwarf.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554617">jazzlover</a>.</p>
<p>I thought I told you to go away, you self important little dwarf.</p>
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		By: Anony-Lurker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anony-Lurker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554926&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL
As I said you little nit
I rest my case,
Now be a good boy and buzz off]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554926">jazzlover</a>.</p>
<p>LOL<br />
As I said you little nit<br />
I rest my case,<br />
Now be a good boy and buzz off</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554847&quot;&gt;Anony-Lurker&lt;/a&gt;.

Curious - which one?  OCD or ADHD?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554847">Anony-Lurker</a>.</p>
<p>Curious &#8211; which one?  OCD or ADHD?</p>
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		By: Anony-Lurker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anony-Lurker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554765&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

I rest my case again, Donald]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554765">jazzlover</a>.</p>
<p>I rest my case again, Donald</p>
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		By: Anony-Lurker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anony-Lurker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554765&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

I rest my case again]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554765">jazzlover</a>.</p>
<p>I rest my case again</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554757&quot;&gt;Anony-Lurker&lt;/a&gt;.

And you&#039;ve proven my assertion that you&#039;re an idiot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554757">Anony-Lurker</a>.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;ve proven my assertion that you&#8217;re an idiot.</p>
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		By: Anony-Lurker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anony-Lurker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554621&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

I rest my case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554621">jazzlover</a>.</p>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2016 06:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-1554616&quot;&gt;Gib&lt;/a&gt;.

The distinction between the two won&#039;t hold meaing to most outsiders. To Scientologists the difference is crucial. 

They often buy into Hubbard&#039;s claims of being the source and that every word and symbol in Scientology is as he intended or it&#039;s not Scientology. Even with David Miscavige&#039;s many alterations and addition&#039;s to the technology many either resist or leave the main cult while retaining loyalty to Hubbard or see Miscavige as Hubbard&#039;s proxy.

For the Miscavige submissive cult members they give him enough authority as Hubbard&#039;s emissary or messenger that he is also treated as a messianic figure and like Hubbard seen as above human and infallible. 

Like how Jesus has been seen as the messenger or messiah by some Christians and capable of creating a new covenant with God&#039;s people or acting as the messenger for God.

Many Scientologists see Hubbard as ABOVE God. If they believe in God at all. There are Scientologists who see God as a big thetan that created the universe or several prior universes. In Scientology doctrine the current physical universe is at times alternately described as being created by a group of thetans long ago or by God. 

I once met an executive director of a local org that saw it as a simple situation. God existed long ago, created the universe or a series of prior universes. God found the responsibility of handling his creations overwhelming and difficult. So God went away, like an absentee parent to all of creation including the physical and spiritual components including all thetans. 

Hubbard as the savior in Scientology is seen as having through genius, individual outstanding character and personal spiritual ability undone all the trillions and trillions of years of decline all beings in this universe have undergone. 

So Hubbard in this myth is described as attaining unequalled wisdom and then choosing to take responsibility for all creation and to take over the duties God wasn&#039;t up to the challenge of handling. That&#039;s meant to be seen as literally true and factual. 

Hubbard&#039;s been described as a more competent replacement for God. In Scientology people describe a person as holding from above a position on the organizing board if it is empty and no subordinate is available. I have heard several Scientologists joke that Hubbard holds God&#039;s post from ABOVE. Meaning Hubbard is above God and filling in for an incompetent slacker to get the job done which God neglects. Once Hubbard said the closest he ever came to quitting is admitting God himself couldn&#039;t do the job that Hubbard does. Quite humble that Hubbard. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-1554616">Gib</a>.</p>
<p>The distinction between the two won&#8217;t hold meaing to most outsiders. To Scientologists the difference is crucial. </p>
<p>They often buy into Hubbard&#8217;s claims of being the source and that every word and symbol in Scientology is as he intended or it&#8217;s not Scientology. Even with David Miscavige&#8217;s many alterations and addition&#8217;s to the technology many either resist or leave the main cult while retaining loyalty to Hubbard or see Miscavige as Hubbard&#8217;s proxy.</p>
<p>For the Miscavige submissive cult members they give him enough authority as Hubbard&#8217;s emissary or messenger that he is also treated as a messianic figure and like Hubbard seen as above human and infallible. </p>
<p>Like how Jesus has been seen as the messenger or messiah by some Christians and capable of creating a new covenant with God&#8217;s people or acting as the messenger for God.</p>
<p>Many Scientologists see Hubbard as ABOVE God. If they believe in God at all. There are Scientologists who see God as a big thetan that created the universe or several prior universes. In Scientology doctrine the current physical universe is at times alternately described as being created by a group of thetans long ago or by God. </p>
<p>I once met an executive director of a local org that saw it as a simple situation. God existed long ago, created the universe or a series of prior universes. God found the responsibility of handling his creations overwhelming and difficult. So God went away, like an absentee parent to all of creation including the physical and spiritual components including all thetans. </p>
<p>Hubbard as the savior in Scientology is seen as having through genius, individual outstanding character and personal spiritual ability undone all the trillions and trillions of years of decline all beings in this universe have undergone. </p>
<p>So Hubbard in this myth is described as attaining unequalled wisdom and then choosing to take responsibility for all creation and to take over the duties God wasn&#8217;t up to the challenge of handling. That&#8217;s meant to be seen as literally true and factual. </p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s been described as a more competent replacement for God. In Scientology people describe a person as holding from above a position on the organizing board if it is empty and no subordinate is available. I have heard several Scientologists joke that Hubbard holds God&#8217;s post from ABOVE. Meaning Hubbard is above God and filling in for an incompetent slacker to get the job done which God neglects. Once Hubbard said the closest he ever came to quitting is admitting God himself couldn&#8217;t do the job that Hubbard does. Quite humble that Hubbard. </p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2016 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554614&quot;&gt;Gib&lt;/a&gt;.

I was looking up something and found Tony Ortega actually had the story here at the Underground Bunker. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/08/25/steven-mango-who-appears-in-theroux-film-calls-police-to-scientology-facility-over-assault/comment-page-1/#comment-1554614">Gib</a>.</p>
<p>I was looking up something and found Tony Ortega actually had the story here at the Underground Bunker. </p>
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