Hubbard’s son, Nibbs, described Scientology this way: “Scientology is a power-and-money-and-intelligence-gathering game.” That quote comes from an interview Nibbs did for Penthouse Magazine in 1983. It’s a great interview.

“His system essentially makes curiosity a crime”

Exactly!

That would make a great sign when I get around to protesting – “Curiosity is NOT a crime!”
(I feel guilty that I haven’t protested yet but my own life problems have to be dealt with first. But I definitely will.)

I wondered where you went.

“Scientology is one big ego trip” – I’ve not thought of it like that before but you are so right. I’ve said it other ways but it’s this in a nutshell!

Yeah, that’s me, I just got tired of that name.

I believe brains can be scarred via over active immune system to a degree – it’s a different organ but I suffered this as a child when my immune system went haywire and began attacking my kidneys. I know my doctors at the time were concerned with the possibility of my immune system doing the same thing to other major organs – specifically the brain.

I’ve played it in the car. Subgenius1 worked on the No ot’s video. Did you work with him?

Fred was taken up to Int to be GIEI (Gross Income Executive International). Gretchen didn’t see much of him during the last few years of her life. You used to see something come out for GIEI and then it stopped, rather like all the communication from Int Execs. I heard he was in the hole but I don’t know for sure. Louis is suffering dementia.