Aye that it might be

Hi, Henrik. Thanks for your reply.

Congratulations on your SP declare. It is good that you are now free to openly look and speak your mind without censure from COS.

I wouldn’t hold my breath that the church might soon go broke as it has reportedly amassed, invested and hoarded billions of ill-gotten bucks over the years since LRH began implementing his get-rich plan of creating a religion.

Ron wasn’t hurting for a ready and substantial supply of funds at his disposal. He certainly had no motivation to sell the Golden Goose! In his own “source” materials LRH clearly states his real goal: “MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY. MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MORE MONEY”. Eventually he was driven into hiding to avoid prosecution for inurement on a grand scale. This is
well documented, as you have likely already discovered.

Miscavige, having wrested complete control of the Scientology empire, upped the ante with a huge property investment portfolio, re-engineered and marketed “source” material and an overriding emphasis on straight “donations”.

As for what LRH believed, only he knew, but it seems to have changed with the situational tides to suit his personal desires. He died a demented, drug-riddled and broken old man trying desperately to rid himself of body thetans.

There are many posters here at the Bunker who spent years, decades in Scientology, some at the highest exec levels and even a few who worked with and trained under LRH. They have the inside skinny on a wealth of information that you might find very enlightening. They might be willing to answer questions or guide you to appropriate sources of information, if you are interested. Also, Tony Ortega, who has been investigating, speaking, and writing about Scientology for 20 years now, has some excellent articles right here at the Bunker.

Again, thanks for the reply and welcome to the Scientology rabbit hole.

If you replace Scientology with the Church of Scientology, then I can much better follow you.

Hi, I am SP declared, so I have a natural interest in whats going on, new disclosures and people who defect etc. I as many others hope the the DM/L.R.H criminal “church” soon goes broke.
But right must be right, and I have to address general statements out of the blue, especially from persons that has no real experience on the subject. And that L.R.H did not believe his own tech is very hard to believe – and that he did this to make tons of money too, if this had been the case, then he could have sold the shit. Or done something much more simple and lucrative.

But yes he wrote stuff that was not good, not well proven og crap, that sometimes came out of his clever but also twisted mind. He was both clear minded about the 1% – the risk of atomic wars, the CIA, FBI interference with politics etc. But he was not up to making and running an org like Scn and as wee all know a fucking evil bastard at times.

Exteriorization Versus Dissociation

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/03/exteriorization-versus-dissociation.html

Denial and Other Common Narcissistic Defenses

http://www.angriesout.com/defenses.htm

Oh, my denomination makes waves, all right. We’re on the liberal side of Mainstream. But the waves we make are about issues like: ending the death penalty; full inclusion of all, including members of the LGBT community, poor folks, substance abusers, and people of all ethnicities and skin colors as well as the historically predominant Protestants who are white and middle-to-upper class individuals or European ancestry.

Not all members of the denomination are comfortable with advocating for those issues. Most denominations have had splits, sadly. But even the worst splits in Christian denominations are nothing like what happens in Scientology. As a rule, we “regular” church types are not beating on one another with our fists! Yeah, sure, there’s a little gossip now and then (we’re human) and there are occasional scandals, but it’s not CRAY CRAY all the time like Scientology! Also, in regular churches, those who do scandalous, cray cray things are turned in to the law, or at least defrocked, to use an unfortunate term.

Now for any Sea Org members who want to argue, I must add the disclaimer: there are smaller denominations that purport to be Christian, but are not considered to be Christian by the bulk of those who consider themselves to be Christian. I think all of us know what those groups are. Please don’t embarrass yourselves by saying that their actions (I’m looking at you, Westboro Baptist Church, FLDLS,etc.) tar all Christian groups.

A final note: I have not spoken about Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, and other major world religions here solely because I am not well-versed in their church polity. However, I’m guessing that, with rare exceptions, their adherents do not regularly pummel one another at religious gatherings, either. I mean, who puts UP with that? Only brainwashed cult members, that’s who!

According to my data, LRH did not pen Pain and Sex, is an issue claimed to be by LRH. LRH was into Aleister Crowley and that gentleman was certainly into pain and sex.

LRH formally withdrew Fair Game.

No PC is subject to the RPF. RPF is for Sea Org only.

PCs are subject to the full gamut of Scientology ethics, including a Scientology court with witnesses and defendants. It has only been since Miscavige came in with aggressive, self-directed Disconnection that people have been Declared by fiat. That’s Miscavige not LRH.

Your conclusion is incorrect. I am a genius with immeasurable IQ. LRH was certainly a genius. I simply don’t have a measure for his IQ.

http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/watch_list/martin_leufray/
He’s actually on a Charlatan watch. Many unfounded claims. Nutty stuff, just like Dice said I’d find if I looked. Whew.

🙂