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	Comments on: &#8216;Freedom&#8217; magazine is back after a six-month absence, and it arrived with a surprise!	</title>
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		By: WOG with Attitude		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1496546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WOG with Attitude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1436920&quot;&gt;John F. Sugg&lt;/a&gt;.

Never change! Stay crazy! Stay in the thrall of a deadly cult, that destroys lives, tears apart families, and uses their mindless zombie slaves as Miscavige&#039;s personal ATM and cheap labor! Good job, reporter! 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1436920">John F. Sugg</a>.</p>
<p>Never change! Stay crazy! Stay in the thrall of a deadly cult, that destroys lives, tears apart families, and uses their mindless zombie slaves as Miscavige&#8217;s personal ATM and cheap labor! Good job, reporter! </p>
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		By: Bella Legosi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bella Legosi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-1436641&quot;&gt;pat k&lt;/a&gt;.

It is bad in Portland and has been since the early 90&#039;s. This city has been ravaged by meth, heroin, and now methadone (recreational or prescribed). And that Org does NOTHING for ANYONE on the street. I know a lot of the campers and have asked if ever someone from Co$ has tried to help. The response is always a laugh and a NO. They have no money so why would the &quot;church&quot; bother? That tells you just how much they want to &quot;clear&quot; the planet. The only entity I have seen that actually tries and helps people is the Catholic church on Burnside. At least they feed these people and help them to get their ID and healthcare! And I am not a fan of the Universal church of Rome, but at least they are there in the dirt helping people, feeding them, and giving them a chance to make a life for themselves, with out all the bullshit charges/nominal fees!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-1436641">pat k</a>.</p>
<p>It is bad in Portland and has been since the early 90&#8217;s. This city has been ravaged by meth, heroin, and now methadone (recreational or prescribed). And that Org does NOTHING for ANYONE on the street. I know a lot of the campers and have asked if ever someone from Co$ has tried to help. The response is always a laugh and a NO. They have no money so why would the &#8220;church&#8221; bother? That tells you just how much they want to &#8220;clear&#8221; the planet. The only entity I have seen that actually tries and helps people is the Catholic church on Burnside. At least they feed these people and help them to get their ID and healthcare! And I am not a fan of the Universal church of Rome, but at least they are there in the dirt helping people, feeding them, and giving them a chance to make a life for themselves, with out all the bullshit charges/nominal fees!</p>
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		By: Dice ✓		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dice ✓]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438819&quot;&gt;John F. Sugg&lt;/a&gt;.

John F. Slugg In my book - you are one of the most useless and unproductive person i have ever seen writing here on this blog! Why are you even trying? How about doing some fact-checking on the stuff you are writing on behalf of David Miscavige so others don&#039;t have to. This is a very low standard you are presenting in your magazine and you call yourself a Journalist! You self confidence must have hit a new low. If you want to donate the rest of your life to this &quot;Freedom&quot; magazine, the you really should do some fact checking before you print it. Let me tell you something i know for a fact and from my 1980 to 2004 experience with this magazine.. Nobody reads it! All those scientologist i have known over the years and who got that magazine in the mail, just recycle it with a suppressed comment on why they are printing up this expensive looking annoying piece of crap! Even OT1-8 never read it. It was only, while waiting in the HGC, they would pick it up and pretend they where on source. For god&#039;s sake man - your are being played to do this. Wake up!!! Check the buildings you are writing on &quot;Ideal Orgs&quot; in person. Go there! and see for your self. Do you dare?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438819">John F. Sugg</a>.</p>
<p>John F. Slugg In my book &#8211; you are one of the most useless and unproductive person i have ever seen writing here on this blog! Why are you even trying? How about doing some fact-checking on the stuff you are writing on behalf of David Miscavige so others don&#8217;t have to. This is a very low standard you are presenting in your magazine and you call yourself a Journalist! You self confidence must have hit a new low. If you want to donate the rest of your life to this &#8220;Freedom&#8221; magazine, the you really should do some fact checking before you print it. Let me tell you something i know for a fact and from my 1980 to 2004 experience with this magazine.. Nobody reads it! All those scientologist i have known over the years and who got that magazine in the mail, just recycle it with a suppressed comment on why they are printing up this expensive looking annoying piece of crap! Even OT1-8 never read it. It was only, while waiting in the HGC, they would pick it up and pretend they where on source. For god&#8217;s sake man &#8211; your are being played to do this. Wake up!!! Check the buildings you are writing on &#8220;Ideal Orgs&#8221; in person. Go there! and see for your self. Do you dare?</p>
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		By: Mirnaminkoff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mirnaminkoff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438819&quot;&gt;John F. Sugg&lt;/a&gt;.

I am curious, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you enjoy doing the &quot;hip hip hooray&quot; cheer for LRH?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438819">John F. Sugg</a>.</p>
<p>I am curious, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you enjoy doing the &#8220;hip hip hooray&#8221; cheer for LRH?</p>
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		By: Mirnaminkoff		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1439507</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mirnaminkoff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 07:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438819&quot;&gt;John F. Sugg&lt;/a&gt;.

The irony of being a journalist for an organization that has spent countless millions trying to suppress free speech and freedom of the press in US courts is almost too much to comprehend.

No respectable journalists line up to work at a &quot;religious&quot; propaganda rag unless they are members of said religion or desperate for income. There is nothing but contempt for CoS publications for VERY VERY good reasons, and none of the reason have to do with religious bigotry.  The CoS&#039;s endless abuses of members, critics, journalists and the legal system has brought all of this upon them.    

John how do you feel about all the past issues of &quot;Freedom&quot; that are nothing but articles attacking former members using their auditing folders, or &quot;confessionals,&quot; against them in print?  I guess you&#039;ll eventually find out how it feels if you are now a member.  It&#039;s extremely sad that you would take such a slimy job to edit propaganda for such an organization if you didn&#039;t need the money. Of course, I don&#039;t think there is much of in the way of retirement benefits for former editors of various weekly alts.  I hope for your sake the CoS at least pays your social security taxes, which they neglect to do for their SO workers.  

Also, that&#039;s a shockingly bad rant, err post.  Only it&#039;s unhinged nature and defensiveness makes me believe it is actually Sugg.  However, if an &quot;editor&quot; writes like that I&#039;m thinking there are some serious problems brewing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438819">John F. Sugg</a>.</p>
<p>The irony of being a journalist for an organization that has spent countless millions trying to suppress free speech and freedom of the press in US courts is almost too much to comprehend.</p>
<p>No respectable journalists line up to work at a &#8220;religious&#8221; propaganda rag unless they are members of said religion or desperate for income. There is nothing but contempt for CoS publications for VERY VERY good reasons, and none of the reason have to do with religious bigotry.  The CoS&#8217;s endless abuses of members, critics, journalists and the legal system has brought all of this upon them.    </p>
<p>John how do you feel about all the past issues of &#8220;Freedom&#8221; that are nothing but articles attacking former members using their auditing folders, or &#8220;confessionals,&#8221; against them in print?  I guess you&#8217;ll eventually find out how it feels if you are now a member.  It&#8217;s extremely sad that you would take such a slimy job to edit propaganda for such an organization if you didn&#8217;t need the money. Of course, I don&#8217;t think there is much of in the way of retirement benefits for former editors of various weekly alts.  I hope for your sake the CoS at least pays your social security taxes, which they neglect to do for their SO workers.  </p>
<p>Also, that&#8217;s a shockingly bad rant, err post.  Only it&#8217;s unhinged nature and defensiveness makes me believe it is actually Sugg.  However, if an &#8220;editor&#8221; writes like that I&#8217;m thinking there are some serious problems brewing.</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Free Minds, Free Hearts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-1437987&quot;&gt;PickAnotherID&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Pick.  I couldn&#039;t find a cite but called the national trafficking hotline and they confirmed it also.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-1437987">PickAnotherID</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Pick.  I couldn&#8217;t find a cite but called the national trafficking hotline and they confirmed it also.</p>
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		By: N. Graham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N. Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438819&quot;&gt;John F. Sugg&lt;/a&gt;.

You ought to try breaking your rants down into paragraphs, Mr. Journalist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438819">John F. Sugg</a>.</p>
<p>You ought to try breaking your rants down into paragraphs, Mr. Journalist.</p>
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		By: N. Graham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N. Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1436920&quot;&gt;John F. Sugg&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, you used your own magazine as a source to show you&#039;re right? That&#039;s like me saying that 
Suggs is an asshole, and then to prove it, I link to an article where I call him an asshole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1436920">John F. Sugg</a>.</p>
<p>Wow, you used your own magazine as a source to show you&#8217;re right? That&#8217;s like me saying that<br />
Suggs is an asshole, and then to prove it, I link to an article where I call him an asshole.</p>
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		By: Mooser42001		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mooser42001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1436920&quot;&gt;John F. Sugg&lt;/a&gt;.

That sugged, big-time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1436920">John F. Sugg</a>.</p>
<p>That sugged, big-time.</p>
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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chee Chalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438326&quot;&gt;Artoo45&lt;/a&gt;.

Not that anyone believes his public image]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/11/freedom-magazine-is-back-after-a-six-month-absence-and-it-arrived-with-a-surprise/comment-page-2/#comment-1438326">Artoo45</a>.</p>
<p>Not that anyone believes his public image</p>
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