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	Comments on: Scientology&#8217;s hypnotic suggestion: What&#8217;s true for you is what&#8217;s true for L. Ron Hubbard	</title>
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		By: Shorpy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2016 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1448251&quot;&gt;flyonthewall&lt;/a&gt;.

I very much appreciated your magnanimous gesture and consider any misunderstanding of the past to be in the past.]]></description>
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<p>I very much appreciated your magnanimous gesture and consider any misunderstanding of the past to be in the past.</p>
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		By: flyonthewall		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2016 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1434701&quot;&gt;Shorpy&lt;/a&gt;.

1sub?  Why didn&#039;t you tell me you were going by a different name?  I don&#039;t get it man.  We talked offline and even exchanged letters.  I said some really mean shit to you as Shorpy but you kept provoking me.  I find it hard to believe you didn&#039;t remember me.  Wth man?]]></description>
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<p>1sub?  Why didn&#8217;t you tell me you were going by a different name?  I don&#8217;t get it man.  We talked offline and even exchanged letters.  I said some really mean shit to you as Shorpy but you kept provoking me.  I find it hard to believe you didn&#8217;t remember me.  Wth man?</p>
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		By: ArnieLerma		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1441954&quot;&gt;califa007&lt;/a&gt;.

He&#039;s got big balls...I&#039;ll give him that,   willing to say he believes he is the  https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2c02c854da39dc553179504f7e6961286a2900a8265fab9dd053d3e5b5cf203.jpg reincarnation of  Edgar Cayce, a tough act to follow, and whom I am rather fond of, but I don&#039;t know his work enough to endorse it or not.

Anything that starts thinking these days should be considered a good thing... in a world that does not want you to think, only obey and toe the line of political correctness, while those that think they own us try to keep us at each other&#039;s throats instead of uniting around theirs...

https://arnielerma.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/11/

dedicated to Alexey Mozgovoy

“War is the greatest injustice. We are not fighting the culprits. 
Those who pay, who incite, who use the media to make people turn against each other – this is who we should fight against.” – Alexey Mozgovoy, commander of the “Ghost” brigade, killed May 23, 2015]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1441954">califa007</a>.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s got big balls&#8230;I&#8217;ll give him that,   willing to say he believes he is the  <a href="https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2c02c854da39dc553179504f7e6961286a2900a8265fab9dd053d3e5b5cf203.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2c02c854da39dc553179504f7e6961286a2900a8265fab9dd053d3e5b5cf203.jpg</a> reincarnation of  Edgar Cayce, a tough act to follow, and whom I am rather fond of, but I don&#8217;t know his work enough to endorse it or not.</p>
<p>Anything that starts thinking these days should be considered a good thing&#8230; in a world that does not want you to think, only obey and toe the line of political correctness, while those that think they own us try to keep us at each other&#8217;s throats instead of uniting around theirs&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="https://arnielerma.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/11/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://arnielerma.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/11/</a></p>
<p>dedicated to Alexey Mozgovoy</p>
<p>“War is the greatest injustice. We are not fighting the culprits.<br />
Those who pay, who incite, who use the media to make people turn against each other – this is who we should fight against.” – Alexey Mozgovoy, commander of the “Ghost” brigade, killed May 23, 2015</p>
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		By: califa007		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[califa007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 22:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1439946&quot;&gt;ArnieLerma&lt;/a&gt;.

What do you think of David Icke? I&#039;m about halfway through the 900 pages of The Perception Deception, but at least his writing is straightforward.  Sometimes repetitious but not annoyingly so.  I keep putting it aside to read other things, but I&#039;ll get back to it.  Could our cult include Icke?  Oh? He already has a cult?  Damn!  I keep trying to integrate his views with quantum theory.  Gives me something to think about when I can&#039;t get to sleep at night.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1439946">ArnieLerma</a>.</p>
<p>What do you think of David Icke? I&#8217;m about halfway through the 900 pages of The Perception Deception, but at least his writing is straightforward.  Sometimes repetitious but not annoyingly so.  I keep putting it aside to read other things, but I&#8217;ll get back to it.  Could our cult include Icke?  Oh? He already has a cult?  Damn!  I keep trying to integrate his views with quantum theory.  Gives me something to think about when I can&#8217;t get to sleep at night.</p>
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		By: nicholas_jordan456		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610&quot;&gt;Snippy_X&lt;/a&gt;.

Expected as it takes development to fill in where I skipped along to get all the major points. You cited a math so i used formalized notation that I have become familiar with due to interest in linguistic for programming these machines we talk on. Important to note is that we are studying what is a notation done on often a sheet of paper or the like yet to walk in nature and observe the actual life-form takes contemplation and review. 

At essence, what I am working towards is a diffuse idea which has yet to be separated as a bi-parte where «soul»  as it is usually taken has to be considered as an electronic sort of thing such that it&#039;s vanishingly negligible ( response? ) to gravity makes for eerie response in most people 

Watch for 17 and dump everything else until we see how often 7 shows up in the work.

I can easily guess-at and prompt is not available for all of my work, yet waiting decades for what I now see on John Atack free-zone which for others is invisible / nonexistent is for me a rather simple  and remarkable issue which is for me glaringly absent in the notation which has been developed as the record of these VicSims of space-time. 

almost to become]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610">Snippy_X</a>.</p>
<p>Expected as it takes development to fill in where I skipped along to get all the major points. You cited a math so i used formalized notation that I have become familiar with due to interest in linguistic for programming these machines we talk on. Important to note is that we are studying what is a notation done on often a sheet of paper or the like yet to walk in nature and observe the actual life-form takes contemplation and review. </p>
<p>At essence, what I am working towards is a diffuse idea which has yet to be separated as a bi-parte where «soul»  as it is usually taken has to be considered as an electronic sort of thing such that it&#8217;s vanishingly negligible ( response? ) to gravity makes for eerie response in most people </p>
<p>Watch for 17 and dump everything else until we see how often 7 shows up in the work.</p>
<p>I can easily guess-at and prompt is not available for all of my work, yet waiting decades for what I now see on John Atack free-zone which for others is invisible / nonexistent is for me a rather simple  and remarkable issue which is for me glaringly absent in the notation which has been developed as the record of these VicSims of space-time. </p>
<p>almost to become</p>
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		By: nicholas_jordan456		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicholas_jordan456]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610&quot;&gt;Snippy_X&lt;/a&gt;.

This alone shows that we can dispense with all accepted notions:

http://oneminuteastronomer.com/8774/rotating-galaxies-2/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610">Snippy_X</a>.</p>
<p>This alone shows that we can dispense with all accepted notions:</p>
<p><a href="http://oneminuteastronomer.com/8774/rotating-galaxies-2/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://oneminuteastronomer.com/8774/rotating-galaxies-2/</a></p>
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		By: nicholas_jordan456		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicholas_jordan456]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610&quot;&gt;Snippy_X&lt;/a&gt;.

Funny I saw just now:  You can try to hide in the shadows, but there’s no hiding from gravity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610">Snippy_X</a>.</p>
<p>Funny I saw just now:  You can try to hide in the shadows, but there’s no hiding from gravity.</p>
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		By: nicholas_jordan456		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicholas_jordan456]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610&quot;&gt;Snippy_X&lt;/a&gt;.

In the simple case which can be developed we model participation as mulit-partite graph with individual vertex is an individuated ψ which may act either freely or as a unit in a greater probability-space which be subjected to tensors which may be measured with a density-metric • at that level we can allow a spin-tensor as an yet unknown metric which I speculate is a vortex-like model ○  here the hard-edge of singularity modeling leads us astray with schematic drawings which do not occur in-fact.

Consider a Gravity-field which drives a Galaxy. As there is no «edge»  to the central-region then simple matter as we know it can then become a local-effect of the gravity which has large-scale structure as seen in the post though to call it structure is misleading as it appears swarmy or something like that with regions of vast-empty then filament-like stuff which could be a condensate of sorts 

Great but how do they align? 

Space Cooties!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610">Snippy_X</a>.</p>
<p>In the simple case which can be developed we model participation as mulit-partite graph with individual vertex is an individuated ψ which may act either freely or as a unit in a greater probability-space which be subjected to tensors which may be measured with a density-metric • at that level we can allow a spin-tensor as an yet unknown metric which I speculate is a vortex-like model ○  here the hard-edge of singularity modeling leads us astray with schematic drawings which do not occur in-fact.</p>
<p>Consider a Gravity-field which drives a Galaxy. As there is no «edge»  to the central-region then simple matter as we know it can then become a local-effect of the gravity which has large-scale structure as seen in the post though to call it structure is misleading as it appears swarmy or something like that with regions of vast-empty then filament-like stuff which could be a condensate of sorts </p>
<p>Great but how do they align? </p>
<p>Space Cooties!</p>
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		By: nicholas_jordan456		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicholas_jordan456]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/05/07/scientologys-hypnotic-suggestion-whats-true-for-you-is-whats-true-for-l-ron-hubbard/comment-page-2/#comment-1440610&quot;&gt;Snippy_X&lt;/a&gt;.

I have to do profoundly fundamental work to explain and right just now am trying to figure out if richelieu jr is Div-6 Austin &#038; knows Susie. I met Monique prior to her going to Los Angeles &#038; Terry is husband of person whom I speak of often and not only here. 

I have what we will place-hold as «remarkable-abilities» and am on stable with one whom has the same 1-st name as my fascination in Austin •  we  «telepath» as routine and for what one is asking here so for  Hausdorff «space» we have a non-topological space in which distinct points which have disjoint neighborhoods may be taken as separated if they are not aware of one anthers existence then we do an exotic known as theVoid

Remarkable for lack of about much of anything we have persons whom are Solopsistic reporting efficient work in Ontology with no prior exposure to doctrine or practice. 

We then speculate on a Chaotic Space where extant work ↑models↑ but does not describe how events come to be tangible •  the challenge is non-trivial and is in the area of  ±Gravity as an as yet incomprehensible effect which for some is non-incomprehensible  which we seen in critical rebuttals of my scattered style 

What I am suggesting is a sort of tensor which only occurs above the QCD Triple point and time does not exist where that density has not been attained ~ for whatever reason though we speculate a Chaotic Model and how events which may occur may have probability-spaces which have—to some extent —an indeterminate which is the individual and choices which may be made.

It will only be those who came here eons ago who have these gifts...those who came from same places vibrate and can feel the frequencies... this transfers information between them... no need to speak]]></description>
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<p>I have to do profoundly fundamental work to explain and right just now am trying to figure out if richelieu jr is Div-6 Austin &amp; knows Susie. I met Monique prior to her going to Los Angeles &amp; Terry is husband of person whom I speak of often and not only here. </p>
<p>I have what we will place-hold as «remarkable-abilities» and am on stable with one whom has the same 1-st name as my fascination in Austin •  we  «telepath» as routine and for what one is asking here so for  Hausdorff «space» we have a non-topological space in which distinct points which have disjoint neighborhoods may be taken as separated if they are not aware of one anthers existence then we do an exotic known as theVoid</p>
<p>Remarkable for lack of about much of anything we have persons whom are Solopsistic reporting efficient work in Ontology with no prior exposure to doctrine or practice. </p>
<p>We then speculate on a Chaotic Space where extant work ↑models↑ but does not describe how events come to be tangible •  the challenge is non-trivial and is in the area of  ±Gravity as an as yet incomprehensible effect which for some is non-incomprehensible  which we seen in critical rebuttals of my scattered style </p>
<p>What I am suggesting is a sort of tensor which only occurs above the QCD Triple point and time does not exist where that density has not been attained ~ for whatever reason though we speculate a Chaotic Model and how events which may occur may have probability-spaces which have—to some extent —an indeterminate which is the individual and choices which may be made.</p>
<p>It will only be those who came here eons ago who have these gifts&#8230;those who came from same places vibrate and can feel the frequencies&#8230; this transfers information between them&#8230; no need to speak</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Your «time-compression» idea is lovely. I guess the simple minded questions was, &quot;if at some point, there was no space time, ie the metric was compact, how did it transition to non-compact?&quot; I very much like your idea. Are you suggesting that at small scales, the metric may have been, say, non-Hausdorff or somehow chaotic?]]></description>
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<p>Your «time-compression» idea is lovely. I guess the simple minded questions was, &#8220;if at some point, there was no space time, ie the metric was compact, how did it transition to non-compact?&#8221; I very much like your idea. Are you suggesting that at small scales, the metric may have been, say, non-Hausdorff or somehow chaotic?</p>
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