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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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Ask &#039;em to do a dedication on that song.  More exposure.  Win/win :)]]></description>
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<p>Ask &#8217;em to do a dedication on that song.  More exposure.  Win/win 🙂</p>
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		By: ReallyMGM		</title>
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Found it. I&#039;ve seen them 3 times already, but not wit Mavis. It should be a match made in heaven! Very excited. ]]></description>
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<p>Found it. I&#8217;ve seen them 3 times already, but not wit Mavis. It should be a match made in heaven! Very excited. </p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2016 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Wow!  They are really good.  And if you need any other sign that this could be karma, or kismet or whatever, they do a song called............Call Me :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7s9A3s8iv8]]></description>
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<p>Wow!  They are really good.  And if you need any other sign that this could be karma, or kismet or whatever, they do a song called&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Call Me 🙂</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7s9A3s8iv8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7s9A3s8iv8</a></p>
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This is the concert I found that I found that I &quot;have-to-see.&quot; It is a one night only, in the park, bring your own picnic and booze, of course.....together, Mavis Staple and St Paul &#038; The Broken Bones. I don&#039;t know know if you have heard of the latter, but look them up on YouTube. They are fabulous. The combination should be sublime! ]]></description>
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<p>This is the concert I found that I found that I &#8220;have-to-see.&#8221; It is a one night only, in the park, bring your own picnic and booze, of course&#8230;..together, Mavis Staple and St Paul &amp; The Broken Bones. I don&#8217;t know know if you have heard of the latter, but look them up on YouTube. They are fabulous. The combination should be sublime! </p>
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Disqus syntax test.........okay..didn&#039;t work. nevermind.
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<p>Disqus syntax test&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;okay..didn&#8217;t work. nevermind.</p>
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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
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Thank you for replying and showing me correspondence.  I am speechless more than anything. Speechless, sad, disgusted, amused and baffled. 
I understand the whole gradual  process of the indoctrination, but I still find it amazing that people believe to this extent.  

Then again, this is the man who threw a birthday party for the president of Kazakhstan and never once mentions (in the video of the party) that the president is not there.  

And the man who also claims people are clamoring for &#039;knighthoods&#039; from Camelot Castle.
And  that his TV show reaches 25 million people.  He must be including BTs in that count.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you for replying and showing me correspondence.  I am speechless more than anything. Speechless, sad, disgusted, amused and baffled.<br />
I understand the whole gradual  process of the indoctrination, but I still find it amazing that people believe to this extent.  </p>
<p>Then again, this is the man who threw a birthday party for the president of Kazakhstan and never once mentions (in the video of the party) that the president is not there.  </p>
<p>And the man who also claims people are clamoring for &#8216;knighthoods&#8217; from Camelot Castle.<br />
And  that his TV show reaches 25 million people.  He must be including BTs in that count.</p>
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		By: cecily beresford		</title>
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This is the email sequence (in reverse order I guess) if you can stand it):

On 17 Apr 2016, at 01:33, antonia@tregarden.com wrote:

Oh my goodness, this is perhaps one of the pottiest emails I have ever received. Sorry to be slow in replying; I&#039;ve only just got it because BT is apparently installing superfast broadband in our area (perhaps you are suffering from this too)? - so my phone and emails are incredibly erratic. In any case, dear John Mappin; please, please don&#039;t tell me you think you&#039;ve just written something coherent &#038; to the point. You are a charming, bright chap with a sensible income - unless it has been totally eroded by scientology - and you have just written a sort of looney rant that would be embarrassing to most of us.

 

For a start, there&#039;s no way that &quot;you&quot; (scientology? your old mates?) have &quot;assisted in matters of national security&quot; in Jordan or the region, ever; people I work with and I would have heard if you had. I have had some 25 years of &quot;direct contact&quot; with the Hashemite Court, btw.

 

The rest of your letter is a bit odd and unattached to your first paragraph, in that you suddenly go off into a rant about brainwashing, bigotry &#038; mental health issues without any evident context. I would suggest that you look closely at why you do this. Please, John, take a step back and do some serious reading.

 

I truly wish you well and a recovery from your time with Hubbard&#039;s expensive belief system - expensive not only financially, but also morally and psychologically. There is plenty of time for you to pull out of this.

 

Very best wishes,

 

Antonia

 

 

From: John Mappin [mailto:johnmappin@camelotcastle.com] 

Sent: 14 April 2016 23:37

To: antonia@tregarden.com

Subject: From John Mappin camelot Castle Re: life

 

Dear Antonia,

 

We are sure your dog is very nice too.

 

We are aware that you have a business that benefits from its relationship with Jordan.

 

Our family has been very close friends with the family and other families from that region for many decades and we are most honoured and proud of our friendships in the region as our friends there are proud and honoured to know us.  

 

We have assisted and advised, on commercial matters, political matters, spiritual matters and matters of national security in the region for some years. 

 

Personal inspection and direct contact, is always senior to remote or second hand information or media gossip.

 

In fact one of the great and most encompassing definitions of Brainwashing is “The personal acceptance of data without personal inspection of the validity of that data and its source and just taking it on faith from another.”   It is my own view that the moment one accepts data that has not been personally verified by oneself one has to that degree been brainwashed or is on the path to becoming so.  

 

Understanding that is most helpful and is an interesting standard to live up to and quite vital in todays world where so many try to use modern communications to forward errant concepts. 

 

The truly wise understand this.

 

It is clear that you have some extreme personal confusions relating to the Scientology religion.  

 

Perhaps you have some personal earlier experience with a Scientologist or Scientology but it is vital that one differentiates between the subject itself and those who have studied it  or applied it, often with varying degrees of efficiency and competence. 

 

Religious intolerance and bigotry are of course unacceptable in any sane universe, society or mind but what is often overlooked is that in the long run it is actually the bigot that suffers spiritually to a far greater degree than their target.

 

We are sure, that if you were to sit down for a few minutes with someone who truly understood the subject of Scientology and got your questions answered, that you would experience tremendous relief.

 

This is one of the reasons that we extended an invitation to you to our home for tea.  

 

In our experience it is simply not kind to allow someone to live with bigotry in their heart or mind.   We are certain that we could help you iron out any unanswered questions that you may have and are attempting to resolve.   

 

In our experience bigots in relation to Scientology fall into two clear groups.

 

1. The quite genuinely misinformed who have, either inadvertently or through intellectual laziness, fallen foul to the brainwashing methods of those individuals who fear they will lose income were Scientology to expand and grow.  As such the bigot is computing with data, that while quite false, has the capacity to be very upsetting.

 

2. The genuinely evil who rage against anything that truly helps mankind.

 

As the second group is extremely rare, the kind thing to do is to make sure that people have accurate information about the subject from accurate sources.

 

These are best accessed on line at www.scientology.org and  www.lronhubbard.com.  Most other online sources tend to be unreliable.

 

Our own involvement and study of Scientology which began in 1991 is something that we have always been quite open about.

 

Having been educated in science, by the finest scientific teachers and minds of the age, at Winchester College, I was very fortunate to have had the opportunity to be taught the subject of Scientology in the USA at one of the finest possible churches there.  

 

I sought out those who understood it best and the original source research documents of Hubbard himself.

 

Understanding the subject, we recognised its use and value.  Our family saw that depression could now be cured without resorting to drugs, that drug addiction could now be resolved in a few weeks and that Scientology, if understood would, in time, bring about the end of War.

 

We have been delighted to help introduce the subject to the world and have done so very effectively.  We have probably helped introduce Scientology to many thousands of people if not millions.  There are whole countries whose street drug usage has dropped markedly as a result of Scientology,  in time,  all these key areas and many others that Scientology addresses will be completely resolved for man.

 

You will note that depression / mental heath - drug abuse - and war - are three principal areas for big business and corporate profitability and it does not take long for a bright mind to work out why it is that the main stream media is employed and has been employed science 1950 around the world to try to create an unfavourable impression of Scientology.

 

I always describe the day I was shown what Hubbard had truly done as analogous to the parable of the good samaritan multiplied by a factor of one million….it is of course one thing to fail to cross the street to help a sick person and to notice the effect that it has on ones own conscience - and quite another - to fail to help a sick or failing culture or planet.  

 

So it was most interesting to understand Scientology&#039;s potentials and I have never, to this day kept it a secret.

 

You can read our fuller story here.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152697042391277&#038;set=a.105894271276.102841.625896276&#038;type=3&#038;theater

 

 

 

 

 

With regard to your other points.

 

A Camelot Castle Knighthood is quite bonafide….The Noble Order of Camelot Castle dates back many years and we have been been ennobling beings in recognition for their Noble Deeds for quite sometime.  

 

In fact our recent ennoblement of Sir Donald Trump and his family, probably due to the fact that it was read about in the media or seen on the television by at least 25 million viewers, has resulted is several local West Country landowners and European nobles, some of whom I am sure you may know personally, sincerely enquiring as to exactly what they need to do to qualify for a Camelot Castle Knighthood.  

 

We will continue to recognise the nobility of beings that do noble acts and I am sure you will hear all about the new Camelot Castle Knighthoods that we grant.

 

The event has also resulted in the launch of Camelot Castle TV Network which you can read about here.

 

https://www.facebook.com/john.mappincamelotcastle/posts/10153363270266277

 

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2016/04/prweb13328923.htm

 

We acquired the property which we rebranded as Camelot Castle to have as a home in late 1999…but shortly after that we decided that as one does not really need sixty five bedrooms for ones personal use in ones private home, to open up some of the rooms and to allow guests to stay.  

 

While it is run by our private household and family staff and is quite informal, people love it.  It is also more fun that way.  

 

By all accounts Camelot Castle is a quite different experience than staying in any other hotel, but when I last checked, being different is not against the law yet... and long may that be the case….

 

The best way to think of it, that might help you, is that Camelot Castle is really a sort of, &quot;Downton Abbey for Everyman&quot;, concept …. we are currently restoring the property back to and probably well beyond its Victorian glory…working with local and international artisans to remain faithful to the listing and the original aesthetic.

 

We say, at Camelot Castle, that the Round Table was round for a reason and so everyone is welcome here including dogs…providing they also keep their manners in.

 

It seems that you have been incorrectly briefed with regards to L Ron Hubbard but you can find all the accurate data that you need about his life atwww.lronhubbard.com

 

With regard to your disdainful and inaccurately informed commentary and opinion with regard to our child and possible future children may we reciprocate and suggest that you will be a lot happier if you resolve internally those factors that lead to bigotry.  And while of course it is the bigot that pays the worst possible spiritual price for bigotry rather than their target it is not easy for children to live with a mother or around anyone that is a religious bigot.

 

And while we understand the exact roots of such bigotry are due to your having been brainwashed by those who like to sell anti depressants (and promote electro-shock and other barbaric treatments of current mental heath practice), street drugs and weaponry for primitive and unnecessary wars that currently rage through the regions of the levant and where our good friends live,  you would do well to get accurate data on exactly who and what it is that you have been attempting to harm.

 

Additionally, as we understand fully the roots of your confusion, and while we point it out, you should know that we do not hold your bigotry against you and we hold open our invitation to our home for tea, in the hope that it might help you more comfortably understand and to relocate the grace and kindness with which you were created.  

 

We understand that you are in truth trying to resolve something in your own mind.

 

There is an excellent verse in the Gospel according to St Mathew, Chapter 7 Verse 5 that may help you tremendously and start you again on the right path.

 

 

Finally, and you may find this of great value, we are in the fortunate position to shed light on one area that you raised in your letter and that may put at least part of your mind to rest.

 

We were introduced to the late King Hussain in London by our good friend His Excellency Prince Rashid Al Rashid who is part of that family and a close family friend to our family. 

 

The Rashid family have ruled and held sway in the levant in varying capacities since approx. 763 - 809 when the Caliph Harun Al Rashid catalysed the first Golden Age.

 

His Excellency the current head of that family, is both Hashemite by his Jordanian mother and a Rashid through his Saudi Father, and family, who originate from Nejd.  As you are familiar with the area you may recall Baroness Wentworth’s - Lady Anne Blunt&#039;s book &quot;A Pilgrimage to Nejd&quot; where she describes the Rashid family home at Nejd.  The Abassid family line, as you may know is one of the longest and respected in the world and our friend is its current scion, which is why our council has often been sought on the most sensitive of local and international matters.  His Excellency and I have been close friends all our lives and we have worked together for many years and I am Godfather to his first child.   

 

As the Prince was the personal and trusted private emissary to the late King and being part Hashemite himself his views on Scientology may be of interest to you.

 

Some years ago due to the immense help that Scientology and L Ron Hubbard’s research has afforded his family and the broader region he wrote a most interesting letter to the Church of Scientology on the occasion of L Ron Hubbard’s 100th Birthday.   It was printed in the Church magazine for the global celebration of the centenary and he has subsequently helped introduce Scientology to millions all over the Middle East, but as he gave it to me in the first instance, I happen to have a copy of it.

 

I attach it here as it expresses very well just how much Scientology is appreciated in the region.

 

In fact Scientology is respected by any good Moslem and interestingly, if one is a religious scholar, is philosophically foreshadowed and validated in several verses of the Koran.

 

And while he is not here to answer himself in person there is one thing we can assure you with total certainly about the late King Hussein.

 

He was not and never will be a religious bigot.  

 

So out of respect for the late King, for his memory and for his family I would ask on their behalf that you do not place him or attempt to place him or his family and heirs in the company or camp of such religious bigots or even begin to suggest that he was or that his family would be so bigoted.

 

Anyway I thought the letter below might shed some light on the matter for you.

 

We hope this is helpful to you, we felt that you might like to consider the above points, relating to the levantine culture, purely as a point of manners, before you interact with the region again.

 

We wish you well too.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

 

John

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<p>This is the email sequence (in reverse order I guess) if you can stand it):</p>
<p>On 17 Apr 2016, at 01:33, <a href="mailto:antonia@tregarden.com">antonia@tregarden.com</a> wrote:</p>
<p>Oh my goodness, this is perhaps one of the pottiest emails I have ever received. Sorry to be slow in replying; I&#8217;ve only just got it because BT is apparently installing superfast broadband in our area (perhaps you are suffering from this too)? &#8211; so my phone and emails are incredibly erratic. In any case, dear John Mappin; please, please don&#8217;t tell me you think you&#8217;ve just written something coherent &amp; to the point. You are a charming, bright chap with a sensible income &#8211; unless it has been totally eroded by scientology &#8211; and you have just written a sort of looney rant that would be embarrassing to most of us.</p>
<p>For a start, there&#8217;s no way that &#8220;you&#8221; (scientology? your old mates?) have &#8220;assisted in matters of national security&#8221; in Jordan or the region, ever; people I work with and I would have heard if you had. I have had some 25 years of &#8220;direct contact&#8221; with the Hashemite Court, btw.</p>
<p>The rest of your letter is a bit odd and unattached to your first paragraph, in that you suddenly go off into a rant about brainwashing, bigotry &amp; mental health issues without any evident context. I would suggest that you look closely at why you do this. Please, John, take a step back and do some serious reading.</p>
<p>I truly wish you well and a recovery from your time with Hubbard&#8217;s expensive belief system &#8211; expensive not only financially, but also morally and psychologically. There is plenty of time for you to pull out of this.</p>
<p>Very best wishes,</p>
<p>Antonia</p>
<p>From: John Mappin [mailto:johnmappin@camelotcastle.com] </p>
<p>Sent: 14 April 2016 23:37</p>
<p>To: <a href="mailto:antonia@tregarden.com">antonia@tregarden.com</a></p>
<p>Subject: From John Mappin camelot Castle Re: life</p>
<p>Dear Antonia,</p>
<p>We are sure your dog is very nice too.</p>
<p>We are aware that you have a business that benefits from its relationship with Jordan.</p>
<p>Our family has been very close friends with the family and other families from that region for many decades and we are most honoured and proud of our friendships in the region as our friends there are proud and honoured to know us.  </p>
<p>We have assisted and advised, on commercial matters, political matters, spiritual matters and matters of national security in the region for some years. </p>
<p>Personal inspection and direct contact, is always senior to remote or second hand information or media gossip.</p>
<p>In fact one of the great and most encompassing definitions of Brainwashing is “The personal acceptance of data without personal inspection of the validity of that data and its source and just taking it on faith from another.”   It is my own view that the moment one accepts data that has not been personally verified by oneself one has to that degree been brainwashed or is on the path to becoming so.  </p>
<p>Understanding that is most helpful and is an interesting standard to live up to and quite vital in todays world where so many try to use modern communications to forward errant concepts. </p>
<p>The truly wise understand this.</p>
<p>It is clear that you have some extreme personal confusions relating to the Scientology religion.  </p>
<p>Perhaps you have some personal earlier experience with a Scientologist or Scientology but it is vital that one differentiates between the subject itself and those who have studied it  or applied it, often with varying degrees of efficiency and competence. </p>
<p>Religious intolerance and bigotry are of course unacceptable in any sane universe, society or mind but what is often overlooked is that in the long run it is actually the bigot that suffers spiritually to a far greater degree than their target.</p>
<p>We are sure, that if you were to sit down for a few minutes with someone who truly understood the subject of Scientology and got your questions answered, that you would experience tremendous relief.</p>
<p>This is one of the reasons that we extended an invitation to you to our home for tea.  </p>
<p>In our experience it is simply not kind to allow someone to live with bigotry in their heart or mind.   We are certain that we could help you iron out any unanswered questions that you may have and are attempting to resolve.   </p>
<p>In our experience bigots in relation to Scientology fall into two clear groups.</p>
<p>1. The quite genuinely misinformed who have, either inadvertently or through intellectual laziness, fallen foul to the brainwashing methods of those individuals who fear they will lose income were Scientology to expand and grow.  As such the bigot is computing with data, that while quite false, has the capacity to be very upsetting.</p>
<p>2. The genuinely evil who rage against anything that truly helps mankind.</p>
<p>As the second group is extremely rare, the kind thing to do is to make sure that people have accurate information about the subject from accurate sources.</p>
<p>These are best accessed on line at <a href="http://www.scientology.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.scientology.org</a> and  <a href="http://www.lronhubbard.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.lronhubbard.com</a>.  Most other online sources tend to be unreliable.</p>
<p>Our own involvement and study of Scientology which began in 1991 is something that we have always been quite open about.</p>
<p>Having been educated in science, by the finest scientific teachers and minds of the age, at Winchester College, I was very fortunate to have had the opportunity to be taught the subject of Scientology in the USA at one of the finest possible churches there.  </p>
<p>I sought out those who understood it best and the original source research documents of Hubbard himself.</p>
<p>Understanding the subject, we recognised its use and value.  Our family saw that depression could now be cured without resorting to drugs, that drug addiction could now be resolved in a few weeks and that Scientology, if understood would, in time, bring about the end of War.</p>
<p>We have been delighted to help introduce the subject to the world and have done so very effectively.  We have probably helped introduce Scientology to many thousands of people if not millions.  There are whole countries whose street drug usage has dropped markedly as a result of Scientology,  in time,  all these key areas and many others that Scientology addresses will be completely resolved for man.</p>
<p>You will note that depression / mental heath &#8211; drug abuse &#8211; and war &#8211; are three principal areas for big business and corporate profitability and it does not take long for a bright mind to work out why it is that the main stream media is employed and has been employed science 1950 around the world to try to create an unfavourable impression of Scientology.</p>
<p>I always describe the day I was shown what Hubbard had truly done as analogous to the parable of the good samaritan multiplied by a factor of one million….it is of course one thing to fail to cross the street to help a sick person and to notice the effect that it has on ones own conscience &#8211; and quite another &#8211; to fail to help a sick or failing culture or planet.  </p>
<p>So it was most interesting to understand Scientology&#8217;s potentials and I have never, to this day kept it a secret.</p>
<p>You can read our fuller story here.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152697042391277&#038;set=a.105894271276.102841.625896276&#038;type=3&#038;theater" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152697042391277&#038;set=a.105894271276.102841.625896276&#038;type=3&#038;theater</a></p>
<p>With regard to your other points.</p>
<p>A Camelot Castle Knighthood is quite bonafide….The Noble Order of Camelot Castle dates back many years and we have been been ennobling beings in recognition for their Noble Deeds for quite sometime.  </p>
<p>In fact our recent ennoblement of Sir Donald Trump and his family, probably due to the fact that it was read about in the media or seen on the television by at least 25 million viewers, has resulted is several local West Country landowners and European nobles, some of whom I am sure you may know personally, sincerely enquiring as to exactly what they need to do to qualify for a Camelot Castle Knighthood.  </p>
<p>We will continue to recognise the nobility of beings that do noble acts and I am sure you will hear all about the new Camelot Castle Knighthoods that we grant.</p>
<p>The event has also resulted in the launch of Camelot Castle TV Network which you can read about here.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/john.mappincamelotcastle/posts/10153363270266277" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/john.mappincamelotcastle/posts/10153363270266277</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.prweb.com/releases/2016/04/prweb13328923.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.prweb.com/releases/2016/04/prweb13328923.htm</a></p>
<p>We acquired the property which we rebranded as Camelot Castle to have as a home in late 1999…but shortly after that we decided that as one does not really need sixty five bedrooms for ones personal use in ones private home, to open up some of the rooms and to allow guests to stay.  </p>
<p>While it is run by our private household and family staff and is quite informal, people love it.  It is also more fun that way.  </p>
<p>By all accounts Camelot Castle is a quite different experience than staying in any other hotel, but when I last checked, being different is not against the law yet&#8230; and long may that be the case….</p>
<p>The best way to think of it, that might help you, is that Camelot Castle is really a sort of, &#8220;Downton Abbey for Everyman&#8221;, concept …. we are currently restoring the property back to and probably well beyond its Victorian glory…working with local and international artisans to remain faithful to the listing and the original aesthetic.</p>
<p>We say, at Camelot Castle, that the Round Table was round for a reason and so everyone is welcome here including dogs…providing they also keep their manners in.</p>
<p>It seems that you have been incorrectly briefed with regards to L Ron Hubbard but you can find all the accurate data that you need about his life atwww.lronhubbard.com</p>
<p>With regard to your disdainful and inaccurately informed commentary and opinion with regard to our child and possible future children may we reciprocate and suggest that you will be a lot happier if you resolve internally those factors that lead to bigotry.  And while of course it is the bigot that pays the worst possible spiritual price for bigotry rather than their target it is not easy for children to live with a mother or around anyone that is a religious bigot.</p>
<p>And while we understand the exact roots of such bigotry are due to your having been brainwashed by those who like to sell anti depressants (and promote electro-shock and other barbaric treatments of current mental heath practice), street drugs and weaponry for primitive and unnecessary wars that currently rage through the regions of the levant and where our good friends live,  you would do well to get accurate data on exactly who and what it is that you have been attempting to harm.</p>
<p>Additionally, as we understand fully the roots of your confusion, and while we point it out, you should know that we do not hold your bigotry against you and we hold open our invitation to our home for tea, in the hope that it might help you more comfortably understand and to relocate the grace and kindness with which you were created.  </p>
<p>We understand that you are in truth trying to resolve something in your own mind.</p>
<p>There is an excellent verse in the Gospel according to St Mathew, Chapter 7 Verse 5 that may help you tremendously and start you again on the right path.</p>
<p>Finally, and you may find this of great value, we are in the fortunate position to shed light on one area that you raised in your letter and that may put at least part of your mind to rest.</p>
<p>We were introduced to the late King Hussain in London by our good friend His Excellency Prince Rashid Al Rashid who is part of that family and a close family friend to our family. </p>
<p>The Rashid family have ruled and held sway in the levant in varying capacities since approx. 763 &#8211; 809 when the Caliph Harun Al Rashid catalysed the first Golden Age.</p>
<p>His Excellency the current head of that family, is both Hashemite by his Jordanian mother and a Rashid through his Saudi Father, and family, who originate from Nejd.  As you are familiar with the area you may recall Baroness Wentworth’s &#8211; Lady Anne Blunt&#8217;s book &#8220;A Pilgrimage to Nejd&#8221; where she describes the Rashid family home at Nejd.  The Abassid family line, as you may know is one of the longest and respected in the world and our friend is its current scion, which is why our council has often been sought on the most sensitive of local and international matters.  His Excellency and I have been close friends all our lives and we have worked together for many years and I am Godfather to his first child.   </p>
<p>As the Prince was the personal and trusted private emissary to the late King and being part Hashemite himself his views on Scientology may be of interest to you.</p>
<p>Some years ago due to the immense help that Scientology and L Ron Hubbard’s research has afforded his family and the broader region he wrote a most interesting letter to the Church of Scientology on the occasion of L Ron Hubbard’s 100th Birthday.   It was printed in the Church magazine for the global celebration of the centenary and he has subsequently helped introduce Scientology to millions all over the Middle East, but as he gave it to me in the first instance, I happen to have a copy of it.</p>
<p>I attach it here as it expresses very well just how much Scientology is appreciated in the region.</p>
<p>In fact Scientology is respected by any good Moslem and interestingly, if one is a religious scholar, is philosophically foreshadowed and validated in several verses of the Koran.</p>
<p>And while he is not here to answer himself in person there is one thing we can assure you with total certainly about the late King Hussein.</p>
<p>He was not and never will be a religious bigot.  </p>
<p>So out of respect for the late King, for his memory and for his family I would ask on their behalf that you do not place him or attempt to place him or his family and heirs in the company or camp of such religious bigots or even begin to suggest that he was or that his family would be so bigoted.</p>
<p>Anyway I thought the letter below might shed some light on the matter for you.</p>
<p>We hope this is helpful to you, we felt that you might like to consider the above points, relating to the levantine culture, purely as a point of manners, before you interact with the region again.</p>
<p>We wish you well too.</p>
<p>Kind Regards,</p>
<p>John</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/04/16/more-atlanta-video-david-miscavige-cuts-the-ribbon-on-scientologys-new-real-estate-venture/comment-page-2/#comment-1391488&quot;&gt;Chee Chalker&lt;/a&gt;.

If you can bear any more of this stuff, and comments / analysis gratefully received (we in Cornwall don&#039;t like having the bullshit on the cliffs):-

 To continue with Antonia&#039;s correspondence with John Mappin, which she tells me she thinks is &quot;fair game&quot; for distribution since he tracked down her number and called her house, she has passed this on to me. It&#039;s actually sad that the poor chap can&#039;t see how off-beam his general tone sounds to most readers:-

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Dear Antonia,

You are simply speculating again. You really must learn the skill and discipline of not acting on assumptions and lack of personal observation. In minor low level activity false assumptions, although harmful, have relatively minor consequences. But as one’s sphere of influence increases one harms oneself with such. As beings are at their core basically good you will limit and withhold yourself and your own sphere of good fortune to the degree that you continue down such harmful lines and venture forward with such assumptions. 

We have learned never to state something along the lines of our earlier communication to you unless it is true. 

I realise that it is not easy to have your manners and errant habits corrected and is possibly a little embarrassing to you not least as it is your bigotry that is being addressed and put under the spotlight. 

My intention in doing so is solely to help you and those that you potentially seek to harm with such and you will find that if you follow the links in the mail that I sent you there is all the accurate information that you need to clear up your confusions on the subject.

But to put at least part of your new speculations to bed, since I became a Scientologists at the age of 27 I have made money as a result of what I have studied and learned from Scientology. 

While I have never worked for the church in any official capacity, nor have I or do I benefit in financially from Scientology or any of its groups, and and am only a simple parishioner, what I have learned from studying scientology courses has been incredibly valuable and has made me many many times more than any cost of the book or course.

Any donations that we have made subsequently as a philanthropy to our church, we are delighted to have made. They have helped others all over the world, but they are a small fraction of the gains that we have had financially, personally and as a family. 

If is fair to say and is true that as a result of studying and using the knowledge in Scientology that we have gained we have increased our family fortune by a vast multiple. 

In terms of a valuable education the study of Scientology surpasses in value anything that I have experienced elsewhere.

I appreciate that it is not easy for someone, blinded by bigotry, to fully grasp who L Ron Hubbard is as a spirit and what he achieved with his work in his most recent incarnation.

But a solution to depression and mental heath problems, a solution to harmful drugs, and a solution to war that does not require harmful weapons and the many spin off benefits associated with such a capacity is most certainly needed by this earth and is something that should be supported not attacked by bigots who have a habit of making non fact based assumptions.

You cannot even begin to imagine how grateful a mother or a head of state is when one presents the only solution that can actually resolve the so called “incurable&quot; drug addiction of a family member or child and then goes on to effectively cure them and restores their child back to full heath and a full life.

This is happening for hundreds of people every day at www.narconon.org facilities which use Hubbard’s breakthrough in how to cure addiction.

Probably the best and perhaps easiest concept with which to view the works of Hubbard and who he was and is, is articulated by Jesus Christ as recorded in the Gospel of John Chapter 14, Verse 12.

&quot;Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.&quot;

These links will give you an idea of how we have helped not just in the the Middle East but across all continents of earth and what our future expansion will bring. They make very interesting reading.

http://www.newera.dk/pdu/news/PDU-EN-14.pdf

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=john mappin dissemination

Scientology and L Ron Hubbard has friends everywhere and so do we.

Don’t limit yourself with false assumptions.

Kind Regards

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JohnOn 17 Apr 2016, at 02:42, antonia@tregarden.com wrote:

No, my dear; in essence, none of the Hashemites would begin to countenance the mad theories of Hubbard, and you need to pull back from this fantasy. But I wish you all the best,

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<p>If you can bear any more of this stuff, and comments / analysis gratefully received (we in Cornwall don&#8217;t like having the bullshit on the cliffs):-</p>
<p> To continue with Antonia&#8217;s correspondence with John Mappin, which she tells me she thinks is &#8220;fair game&#8221; for distribution since he tracked down her number and called her house, she has passed this on to me. It&#8217;s actually sad that the poor chap can&#8217;t see how off-beam his general tone sounds to most readers:-</p>
<p>&#8221;</p>
<p>Dear Antonia,</p>
<p>You are simply speculating again. You really must learn the skill and discipline of not acting on assumptions and lack of personal observation. In minor low level activity false assumptions, although harmful, have relatively minor consequences. But as one’s sphere of influence increases one harms oneself with such. As beings are at their core basically good you will limit and withhold yourself and your own sphere of good fortune to the degree that you continue down such harmful lines and venture forward with such assumptions. </p>
<p>We have learned never to state something along the lines of our earlier communication to you unless it is true. </p>
<p>I realise that it is not easy to have your manners and errant habits corrected and is possibly a little embarrassing to you not least as it is your bigotry that is being addressed and put under the spotlight. </p>
<p>My intention in doing so is solely to help you and those that you potentially seek to harm with such and you will find that if you follow the links in the mail that I sent you there is all the accurate information that you need to clear up your confusions on the subject.</p>
<p>But to put at least part of your new speculations to bed, since I became a Scientologists at the age of 27 I have made money as a result of what I have studied and learned from Scientology. </p>
<p>While I have never worked for the church in any official capacity, nor have I or do I benefit in financially from Scientology or any of its groups, and and am only a simple parishioner, what I have learned from studying scientology courses has been incredibly valuable and has made me many many times more than any cost of the book or course.</p>
<p>Any donations that we have made subsequently as a philanthropy to our church, we are delighted to have made. They have helped others all over the world, but they are a small fraction of the gains that we have had financially, personally and as a family. </p>
<p>If is fair to say and is true that as a result of studying and using the knowledge in Scientology that we have gained we have increased our family fortune by a vast multiple. </p>
<p>In terms of a valuable education the study of Scientology surpasses in value anything that I have experienced elsewhere.</p>
<p>I appreciate that it is not easy for someone, blinded by bigotry, to fully grasp who L Ron Hubbard is as a spirit and what he achieved with his work in his most recent incarnation.</p>
<p>But a solution to depression and mental heath problems, a solution to harmful drugs, and a solution to war that does not require harmful weapons and the many spin off benefits associated with such a capacity is most certainly needed by this earth and is something that should be supported not attacked by bigots who have a habit of making non fact based assumptions.</p>
<p>You cannot even begin to imagine how grateful a mother or a head of state is when one presents the only solution that can actually resolve the so called “incurable&#8221; drug addiction of a family member or child and then goes on to effectively cure them and restores their child back to full heath and a full life.</p>
<p>This is happening for hundreds of people every day at <a href="http://www.narconon.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.narconon.org</a> facilities which use Hubbard’s breakthrough in how to cure addiction.</p>
<p>Probably the best and perhaps easiest concept with which to view the works of Hubbard and who he was and is, is articulated by Jesus Christ as recorded in the Gospel of John Chapter 14, Verse 12.</p>
<p>&#8220;Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.&#8221;</p>
<p>These links will give you an idea of how we have helped not just in the the Middle East but across all continents of earth and what our future expansion will bring. They make very interesting reading.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newera.dk/pdu/news/PDU-EN-14.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.newera.dk/pdu/news/PDU-EN-14.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=john" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=john</a> mappin dissemination</p>
<p>Scientology and L Ron Hubbard has friends everywhere and so do we.</p>
<p>Don’t limit yourself with false assumptions.</p>
<p>Kind Regards</p>
<p>[IMG]</p>
<p>JohnOn 17 Apr 2016, at 02:42, <a href="mailto:antonia@tregarden.com">antonia@tregarden.com</a> wrote:</p>
<p>No, my dear; in essence, none of the Hashemites would begin to countenance the mad theories of Hubbard, and you need to pull back from this fantasy. But I wish you all the best,</p>
<p>Antonia</p>
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<p>Some of the Anons videotaped a busload of SO children a couple of years ago at Flag. Some looked as young as six or eight years old.  I&#8217;m not sure if the vid is still up; people get sensitive about videotaping children, but someone has it.</p>
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