Excellent picture, Until Nothing Remains

Tragic Fred.. Yes.. I would post the story without identifying them. It is a heartfelt story / or could have been… had it not been for Scientology.

I snoop on so many Indie sites.. I hear Scientoleaze and I want to puke. They blame DM for everything. They do not accept any truth concerning the Old Man.

They are stuck and either can NOT or refuse to move forward. Very sad.

JennyAtLAX is seriously contemplating posting the story of how I found Eve’s daughter without identifying them. In fact, JennyAtLAX has already figured out perfect “fake” names for them. Blotting out their faces in any photos JennyAtLAX posts will be easy enough, too (It’ll be fun, because her daughter used to be an up-and-coming model with pictures posted all over the internet, which I’ve collected). Eve is an “indie,” which I’ve come to realize is nothing more than a “Scientologist” without the capital “S.” There are indie’s still struggling with their “belief,” spending countless hours picking off body thetan kooties by the truckload. It’s bad enough that we get to hear of L. Ron Hubbard’s overall scam of scientology, but to watch our friends still fall for it is just so sad.

Amazing Fred.. You rendered me speechless. And that is something that is rarely done! Wow.

Thoughtful, top rate first post, Willie. You are a kindred spirit.

Thanks for that, Baby. Guess what? “Eve” won’t allow me to use her or “Rose’s” name in any blog I write for JennyAtLAX. That includes pictures. “Eve” is still sipping (gulping, actually) scientology’s kool-aid and doesn’t want to risk losing “Rose” forever. I can understand that, but only to a point, especially after Phil and Willie Jones herculean efforts to reach their children still in scientology. “Eve” also has two children still in, but she wants absolutely nothing to do with JennyAtLAX writing her story and how I located her daughter. Funny thing is, “Eve” wrote about that disconnection (and with old photos of her kids, I believe) on an ex-scientologist’s blog on a posting that’s quite public, indeed.

Yes, a person speaking to only one other individual won’t always feel as obligated to speak as carefully as he or she would in a crowd or with more than one person. Wink wink nudge nudge!

Agreed – the stilted Graduation speeches do not sound authentic or personal anymore.

The saddest thing is to watch what happens to the day-to-day existence of many OTVIII’s after they complete…it is often quite tragic. They tend to deteriorate rather quickly (measured in wog terms) and some of that is no doubt caused by the recognition that they have spent much of their lives (in most cases) as well as a great deal of money to achieve a “state” that is completely different (and not better) than the one promised in the printed promotional and study material of the church.

OTVIII is often where the penny drops for the tiny few Scientologists who make it that far…they realize they have been foolish.

that’s a good answer, I’m sure she was answering officially before, but to you she felt she could be a little more candid. Of course officially she can’t say who called, they never can, but wink wink nudge nudge happens often enough