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	Comments on: When David Miscavige was riding high with &#8216;The Basics&#8217; &#8212; Scientology&#8217;s 2008 New Year&#8217;s event!	</title>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1310167&quot;&gt;Lousy Ratatouille&lt;/a&gt;.

Putin, ça..c&#039;etait une trip Googlesque à donf, mon ami..
C&#039;était digne de Buckaroo lui-même... &quot;No matter Where you go... The you are!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1310167">Lousy Ratatouille</a>.</p>
<p>Putin, ça..c&#8217;etait une trip Googlesque à donf, mon ami..<br />
C&#8217;était digne de Buckaroo lui-même&#8230; &#8220;No matter Where you go&#8230; The you are!&#8221;</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1310168&quot;&gt;flying baby&lt;/a&gt;.

Erm... yeah, um... Exactly?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1310168">flying baby</a>.</p>
<p>Erm&#8230; yeah, um&#8230; Exactly?</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1311479&quot;&gt;Alex De Valera&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, &quot;Auto da fé&quot; meant &quot;Act (or &#039;display&#039;/&#039;proof&#039;)** of Faith&quot;, and I certainly hope you are no longer acting on only that.

Still it has a certain symbolic vaulted like breaking a dish to change your life and break with the past, or burning your exes things...me hate er works for you), so I get the idea...

The medieval scholar in my, however, feels compelled toppling out that the Inquisitors  themselves never took part in the executions and burnings. Nor did they ever condemn anyone to death. Instead, having done their best to save the soul in front of them by giving the person every opportunity to come clean and repent (and, contrary to popular misconceptions, they did in general make very effort, especially at the beginning when burnings were quite rare), they then released the confessed heretic to the &quot;secular arm&quot;, meaning the State, which did indeed involve I
Tell in such tawdry affairs and made, as the saying goes, a &quot;spectacle&quot; if them....

Niw, the cynic in me might wish to say that this is somewhat analogous to famed (ex-?) Scientilogist Charles Manson passing responsibility off on his band of runaway girls with drug habits and daddy issues, easily found &quot;ruins&quot; to be sure, and in the grand tradition of LRH, he was soon Docking his Woggies with punishments fit for every transgression-- the very opposite of &quot;Free Love&quot;, in that it was Hate and cost your soul. He also had them sleep with him, each other&#039;s select d acceptable males (but not the neighbor who, also an ex-Scilon, now followed a &quot;Squirrel Group&quot; called The Order. 

Ladies and gentlemen, Charlie Manson was still persecuting Squirrels years after he&#039;d stopped marking Scientologist on the surveys handed out to prisoners every year. 

But no school he!

In fact, the clear truth about shy LRH, Moscavige and company are so butt-hurt each  and every time the ck warm or able fact (just read the latest book about Manson. oh, and the first. Oh, and even Helterr Skelter- in fact, read pretty much any book, besides lRH&#039;s The History of Man (but Not, N-O-T, nun-uh, no-way, of &#039;Man-son&#039;), and it is mentioned (the enw one has the dix, tho, and eyewitness testimony from folks he audited (right out of their smokes (no mention if said smokes were &#039;Kools&#039; though, nor if they cured cancer-- so I suppose the jury is still out for the illiterate and Ostriches and Scilons (a Venn Diagram wh.ichnsurprisingly leaves almost nothing Outside the overlap)--

The real reason they start frothing at the mouth, screaming bigot, and what&#039;re other word DM has stuffed so far up their asses that it is permanently coming out their mouths, is that CHARLES MANSON GOT IT.

So far as I can see, based upon people who were provably members of this &quot;young religious move
Went of money from parishiner&#039;s pockets into those of one man&quot;, only three people have reached this pint, and two (LRH and DM, took their own sweet time.

Manson tried it out, immediately saw it was a great way to manipulate and control people, refused to spend money on it and immediatel started using it for his own personal benefit.

In other words, he saw what Scientology was for.

It is worth noting that he al
So married it with How to Win Frineds and InfluencePeople, just like LRH, and started making bad music with good musicians (Charlie I this, as in so much else, beats DM like the fellow midget he is, and even tho
Ugh the Apollo All Stars were no slouches, Manson bagged the Beach Boys (who put out one of his on a disc, so...) so imma score this one for Charlie...

To quote LRH, &quot;Thank you for listening!&quot;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1311479">Alex De Valera</a>.</p>
<p>Well, &#8220;Auto da fé&#8221; meant &#8220;Act (or &#8216;display&#8217;/&#8217;proof&#8217;)** of Faith&#8221;, and I certainly hope you are no longer acting on only that.</p>
<p>Still it has a certain symbolic vaulted like breaking a dish to change your life and break with the past, or burning your exes things&#8230;me hate er works for you), so I get the idea&#8230;</p>
<p>The medieval scholar in my, however, feels compelled toppling out that the Inquisitors  themselves never took part in the executions and burnings. Nor did they ever condemn anyone to death. Instead, having done their best to save the soul in front of them by giving the person every opportunity to come clean and repent (and, contrary to popular misconceptions, they did in general make very effort, especially at the beginning when burnings were quite rare), they then released the confessed heretic to the &#8220;secular arm&#8221;, meaning the State, which did indeed involve I<br />
Tell in such tawdry affairs and made, as the saying goes, a &#8220;spectacle&#8221; if them&#8230;.</p>
<p>Niw, the cynic in me might wish to say that this is somewhat analogous to famed (ex-?) Scientilogist Charles Manson passing responsibility off on his band of runaway girls with drug habits and daddy issues, easily found &#8220;ruins&#8221; to be sure, and in the grand tradition of LRH, he was soon Docking his Woggies with punishments fit for every transgression&#8211; the very opposite of &#8220;Free Love&#8221;, in that it was Hate and cost your soul. He also had them sleep with him, each other&#8217;s select d acceptable males (but not the neighbor who, also an ex-Scilon, now followed a &#8220;Squirrel Group&#8221; called The Order. </p>
<p>Ladies and gentlemen, Charlie Manson was still persecuting Squirrels years after he&#8217;d stopped marking Scientologist on the surveys handed out to prisoners every year. </p>
<p>But no school he!</p>
<p>In fact, the clear truth about shy LRH, Moscavige and company are so butt-hurt each  and every time the ck warm or able fact (just read the latest book about Manson. oh, and the first. Oh, and even Helterr Skelter- in fact, read pretty much any book, besides lRH&#8217;s The History of Man (but Not, N-O-T, nun-uh, no-way, of &#8216;Man-son&#8217;), and it is mentioned (the enw one has the dix, tho, and eyewitness testimony from folks he audited (right out of their smokes (no mention if said smokes were &#8216;Kools&#8217; though, nor if they cured cancer&#8211; so I suppose the jury is still out for the illiterate and Ostriches and Scilons (a Venn Diagram wh.ichnsurprisingly leaves almost nothing Outside the overlap)&#8211;</p>
<p>The real reason they start frothing at the mouth, screaming bigot, and what&#8217;re other word DM has stuffed so far up their asses that it is permanently coming out their mouths, is that CHARLES MANSON GOT IT.</p>
<p>So far as I can see, based upon people who were provably members of this &#8220;young religious move<br />
Went of money from parishiner&#8217;s pockets into those of one man&#8221;, only three people have reached this pint, and two (LRH and DM, took their own sweet time.</p>
<p>Manson tried it out, immediately saw it was a great way to manipulate and control people, refused to spend money on it and immediatel started using it for his own personal benefit.</p>
<p>In other words, he saw what Scientology was for.</p>
<p>It is worth noting that he al<br />
So married it with How to Win Frineds and InfluencePeople, just like LRH, and started making bad music with good musicians (Charlie I this, as in so much else, beats DM like the fellow midget he is, and even tho<br />
Ugh the Apollo All Stars were no slouches, Manson bagged the Beach Boys (who put out one of his on a disc, so&#8230;) so imma score this one for Charlie&#8230;</p>
<p>To quote LRH, &#8220;Thank you for listening!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Wog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2016 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1311132&quot;&gt;Fink Jonas&lt;/a&gt;.

It was the Carrot on a stick...MY CASE was the problem and it will always be the &quot;next step&quot; on the Bridge...

Scientology fucks with your ego - so you are actually addressing the ego not the spirit.  

We received Debbie Cook&#039;s e-mail.  It resonated with us.  We LOOKED at the internet and found out what Scientology never wanted us to see - THE TRUTH!  
Google:  Debbie Cook deposition, Debbie Cook&#039;s email.

She was the Captain at the Mecca of Scientology - FLAG - for many years.  

The truth set us free.

Scientology lies and keeps you chasing a carrot on a stick (like the drug Meth and Heroine)  and never ever delivers. 

You invest so you &quot;believe&quot; and that is the science of mind control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1311132">Fink Jonas</a>.</p>
<p>It was the Carrot on a stick&#8230;MY CASE was the problem and it will always be the &#8220;next step&#8221; on the Bridge&#8230;</p>
<p>Scientology fucks with your ego &#8211; so you are actually addressing the ego not the spirit.  </p>
<p>We received Debbie Cook&#8217;s e-mail.  It resonated with us.  We LOOKED at the internet and found out what Scientology never wanted us to see &#8211; THE TRUTH!<br />
Google:  Debbie Cook deposition, Debbie Cook&#8217;s email.</p>
<p>She was the Captain at the Mecca of Scientology &#8211; FLAG &#8211; for many years.  </p>
<p>The truth set us free.</p>
<p>Scientology lies and keeps you chasing a carrot on a stick (like the drug Meth and Heroine)  and never ever delivers. </p>
<p>You invest so you &#8220;believe&#8221; and that is the science of mind control.</p>
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		By: Xique		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2016 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1311098&quot;&gt;Jens TINGLEFF&lt;/a&gt;.

I really should read  these books, thank you for reminding me. It&#039;s an impossible situation most of the time. I just keep thinking he will see the light. ( sounds so religious ) I love and care about him is the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-1/#comment-1311098">Jens TINGLEFF</a>.</p>
<p>I really should read  these books, thank you for reminding me. It&#8217;s an impossible situation most of the time. I just keep thinking he will see the light. ( sounds so religious ) I love and care about him is the problem.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beauty for ashes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-2/#comment-1312165&quot;&gt;salin&lt;/a&gt;.

{{{{{{{{{&#060;3 &#060;3 &#060;3}}}}}}}}}}} &#060;hugging very hard you r heart!]]></description>
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<p>{{{{{{{{{&lt;3 &lt;3 &lt;3}}}}}}}}}}} &lt;hugging very hard you r heart!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was Kelly Preston ever actually in a movie, other than bit parts in her husband&#039;s films? For decades she&#039;s only been known as John Travolta&#039;s wife.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Kelly Preston ever actually in a movie, other than bit parts in her husband&#8217;s films? For decades she&#8217;s only been known as John Travolta&#8217;s wife.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris, I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ll see this since the post is a few days old, but I have to comment on how fantastic this interview series is. All of your interviews have been great, but this was just so fascinating. Having Sylvia in the last install is perfect. Hats off to you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ll see this since the post is a few days old, but I have to comment on how fantastic this interview series is. All of your interviews have been great, but this was just so fascinating. Having Sylvia in the last install is perfect. Hats off to you!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can anyone give me the link for that Boing Boing? radio show. I have been scrolling and scrolling. It was 2 people going to be a scientologist . I think it is funny.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/02/04/when-david-miscavige-was-riding-high-with-the-basics-scientologys-2008-new-years-event/comment-page-2/#comment-1311956&quot;&gt;beauty for ashes&lt;/a&gt;.

&#060;3&#060;3&#060;3]]></description>
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<p>&lt;3&lt;3&lt;3</p>
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