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	Comments on: Scientology&#8217;s 2016: CNN plans to give L. Ron Hubbard his best press in decades	</title>
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		By: Bruce Decimus Meridius Martin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Decimus Meridius Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aslan isn&#039;t even a &quot;religious scholar.&quot; He touts this all the time. He has a PhD in Sociology. He will try to spin this with History of Religion but the University he received his PhD (University of California) from does not give such a degree. He&#039;s an apologist. He is a associate professor in the Creative Writing program at the University of California, Riverside. Nor is he a Historian. He has no degree in History of any sort. He has a BA in Religion from Santa Clara. An MTS in Theology from Harvard. An MFA in Fiction from the University of Iowa.

No Historian or Theological Scholar would over state their studies. He&#039;s a fraud that is trying to sell books.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RmAo6XVAA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aslan isn&#8217;t even a &#8220;religious scholar.&#8221; He touts this all the time. He has a PhD in Sociology. He will try to spin this with History of Religion but the University he received his PhD (University of California) from does not give such a degree. He&#8217;s an apologist. He is a associate professor in the Creative Writing program at the University of California, Riverside. Nor is he a Historian. He has no degree in History of any sort. He has a BA in Religion from Santa Clara. An MTS in Theology from Harvard. An MFA in Fiction from the University of Iowa.</p>
<p>No Historian or Theological Scholar would over state their studies. He&#8217;s a fraud that is trying to sell books.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RmAo6XVAA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RmAo6XVAA</a></p>
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		By: squigg's		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[squigg's]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-3/#comment-1272993&quot;&gt;Lighthouse&lt;/a&gt;.

i call him a failed sci-fi writer and a scam artist..he only wrote one book that was halfway readable and travolta ruined it in that movie... and in the end the fool went nuts..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-3/#comment-1272993">Lighthouse</a>.</p>
<p>i call him a failed sci-fi writer and a scam artist..he only wrote one book that was halfway readable and travolta ruined it in that movie&#8230; and in the end the fool went nuts..</p>
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		By: squigg's		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[squigg's]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[scientology is a scam and a ponzi scheme built by hubbard. so he wouldn&#039;t have to work again ... and he actually even began to believe his own scam... and he went pretty much batshit crazy...... and it&#039;s a belief system made up like a bad sci-fi book. thetains and the galactic empire... give me a mother freaking break...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scientology is a scam and a ponzi scheme built by hubbard. so he wouldn&#8217;t have to work again &#8230; and he actually even began to believe his own scam&#8230; and he went pretty much batshit crazy&#8230;&#8230; and it&#8217;s a belief system made up like a bad sci-fi book. thetains and the galactic empire&#8230; give me a mother freaking break&#8230;</p>
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		By: Kristin Rawls		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristin Rawls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whoa, I have been out of the loop and missed all of this. I happen to be aware, by way of friends who are religious studies academics, that Aslan isn&#039;t really respected as a scholar. His book about Jesus was problematic, but not for the reasons the Christian Right believed it was problematic. It was simply poor scholarship. I could find out more if that would be useful. 

When the book came out, some of the more valid criticisms were aired at religiondispatches.org.

As for the word &quot;cult&quot; -- I mean, as a general rule, I think modern scholars avoid the word. What&#039;s more troubling is the letter to Karen. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, I have been out of the loop and missed all of this. I happen to be aware, by way of friends who are religious studies academics, that Aslan isn&#8217;t really respected as a scholar. His book about Jesus was problematic, but not for the reasons the Christian Right believed it was problematic. It was simply poor scholarship. I could find out more if that would be useful. </p>
<p>When the book came out, some of the more valid criticisms were aired at religiondispatches.org.</p>
<p>As for the word &#8220;cult&#8221; &#8212; I mean, as a general rule, I think modern scholars avoid the word. What&#8217;s more troubling is the letter to Karen. </p>
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		By: Erick E.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erick E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-1/#comment-1276425&quot;&gt;jeff dee&lt;/a&gt;.

Pew. The people who foretold the Romney victory of 2012. Looks like you lose, Junior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-1/#comment-1276425">jeff dee</a>.</p>
<p>Pew. The people who foretold the Romney victory of 2012. Looks like you lose, Junior.</p>
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		By: Dice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2016 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-3/#comment-1275505&quot;&gt;Susan B.&lt;/a&gt;.

No i haven&#039;t, but i might do it some day. I need more time  to evaluate the site and see if it will stay up and running since it&#039;s still a beta. I think i will contact the owner. It could be fun to make a full map of all the &quot;actors&quot; and make it more easy to navigate in this cult. It should be possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-3/#comment-1275505">Susan B.</a>.</p>
<p>No i haven&#8217;t, but i might do it some day. I need more time  to evaluate the site and see if it will stay up and running since it&#8217;s still a beta. I think i will contact the owner. It could be fun to make a full map of all the &#8220;actors&#8221; and make it more easy to navigate in this cult. It should be possible.</p>
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		By: Margie8		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Margie8]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2016 07:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-3/#comment-1275635&quot;&gt;Shorpy&lt;/a&gt;.

To each their own but as long as I have the right to walk away, without being threatened, etc., I think it makes a world of difference. However, I&#039;m not a young, gay male who has grown up in the church and feeling like my family will disown me if I do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-3/#comment-1275635">Shorpy</a>.</p>
<p>To each their own but as long as I have the right to walk away, without being threatened, etc., I think it makes a world of difference. However, I&#8217;m not a young, gay male who has grown up in the church and feeling like my family will disown me if I do.</p>
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		By: R3Kless		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R3Kless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2016 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-1/#comment-1277655&quot;&gt;jeff dee&lt;/a&gt;.

You are the man. I would hate to debate you on religion, let alone any subject lol. cheers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-1/#comment-1277655">jeff dee</a>.</p>
<p>You are the man. I would hate to debate you on religion, let alone any subject lol. cheers</p>
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		By: R3Kless		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R3Kless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2016 01:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-1/#comment-1271400&quot;&gt;NOLAGirl (Stephanie)&lt;/a&gt;.

I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself. I enjoyed reading this more than the article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-1/#comment-1271400">NOLAGirl (Stephanie)</a>.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself. I enjoyed reading this more than the article.</p>
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		By: jeff dee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeff dee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2016 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-1/#comment-1277090&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrrrr&lt;/a&gt;.

Turn around what you just said. You come across as someone trolling me and you are re-framing everything. 

My whole point has been consistent: the pew poll is accurate. And you danced around re-framing to shift the goalposts. What you see as my being an &quot;ass&quot; is my trying to respond to all your re-framing. 

Yes I was blunt, but only to make an honest point. But you can&#039;t handle that because you PC rules are more important to you than truth. PC obsessed people like you are what is majorly wrong with this world. Moral relativists, post-modernists (look it up) ect. They (you) are the purest trolls but they are so out of touch with reality, they don&#039;t know it. So in that sense perhaps you are forgiven. 

There is a war out there (jihad) that is just starting. In five years I would like you to remember this conversation and reflect on it. If there is a world left. And a lot smarter people than me are saying this, not just me. The other danger we have is North Korea and they just set off a Hydrogen bomb yesterday.

Sorry I didn&#039;t fit into the cozy little conversation that you wanted and expected. Now you can go back to your safe-space and play with your stuffed animals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2016/01/02/scientologys-2016-cnn-plans-to-give-l-ron-hubbard-his-best-press-in-decades/comment-page-1/#comment-1277090">Jenyfurrrrr</a>.</p>
<p>Turn around what you just said. You come across as someone trolling me and you are re-framing everything. </p>
<p>My whole point has been consistent: the pew poll is accurate. And you danced around re-framing to shift the goalposts. What you see as my being an &#8220;ass&#8221; is my trying to respond to all your re-framing. </p>
<p>Yes I was blunt, but only to make an honest point. But you can&#8217;t handle that because you PC rules are more important to you than truth. PC obsessed people like you are what is majorly wrong with this world. Moral relativists, post-modernists (look it up) ect. They (you) are the purest trolls but they are so out of touch with reality, they don&#8217;t know it. So in that sense perhaps you are forgiven. </p>
<p>There is a war out there (jihad) that is just starting. In five years I would like you to remember this conversation and reflect on it. If there is a world left. And a lot smarter people than me are saying this, not just me. The other danger we have is North Korea and they just set off a Hydrogen bomb yesterday.</p>
<p>Sorry I didn&#8217;t fit into the cozy little conversation that you wanted and expected. Now you can go back to your safe-space and play with your stuffed animals.</p>
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