WRONG. You stated, “still affiliated with Scientology” Suzzette IS still affiliated with Scn. A scientologist who isn’t a staff member but considers themselves a Church member (which Suzzette DOES) is affiliated with the church. Just not a staff member.

What a happy coincidence! I’ve been posting for months and months, too! I am an Ex-Scientologist, how about you?

Yes, there are many parallels with Orwell’s novel.
There is actual study of what I was referring to in reading Steve Hassan, Margaret Singer, Robert Lifton, and many others. Through that can being an understanding and empathy for people who have been subjected to it.

No. That idea doesn’t hold up.

Making judgements, or rather decisions, in your own life and being judgmental, regarding someone else’s choices are two different things. It’s one thing to question someone who is still in, but someone who’s owned their stuff, moved forward, gotten out and you’re still looking behind and trying to make someone feel small over a past they can’t change (& that they’ve used instead to help countless others move forward and out) is small minded at best. Was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and express how you came across. Snark noted – clearly you don’t care. FYI this is supposed to be a SAFE place for exes to talk about their stuff. You’re merely affirming the stereo type the cult tells people they’ll run into outside… Not helpful, not kind.

You’re right. I have a real issue with what you said. You layed out a situation that sounded like you were trying to say that THDNE was a willing victim IIRC. I have an issue with how you phrased your entire first paragraph. It made me feel so grossed out that I felt compelled to protect someone I greatly respect and consider my friend. Also someone who had just made a very vulnerable admission. I don’t take things like that lightly. I take them very seriously. I think that if I was your friend, and did that for you, you wouldn’t be offended. And I didn’t categorize YOU, I commented on your behavior. I hope you will consider this a more appropriate response.

Oh darling. Months and months, thanks for checking up…I mean in.

Why do you think no one else has ever filled a missing persons report for Heber Jentz? He’s so old, doesn’t anyone care enough to try to get authorities to find him? Didn’t he have one friend that would act on his behalf? He surely must need medical care by now of some form.

Who else is there to blame? If someone says fling yourself off this bridge after giving me all your money, and you do it, who is to blame? I’ve heard hubbards tapes. Where he says they don’t need to ask permission, they can do what they want because they know more and are better than mere wogs. I hear the awe and glee in the noises the crowd makes. the palpable excitement when they consider their superiority and control over others. . They wanted power over others, they were motivated by that power and superiority. Status, structure, advancement, competition both within and without the group, these are factors that motivated members. Afterwards comes fear, isolation, insecurity, self doubt. Coupled with lack of resources, they are trapped. But yes they have done it to themselves. They are complicit in their own destruction. I admire anyone who is strong enough to get away and think it through. And I have serious compassion for,people born into a cult who have no outside experience.

Categorizing someone with an insult is not repondisive. It’s a technique to deflect