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		By: Juicer77		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juicer77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2015 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130852&quot;&gt;aegerprimo&lt;/a&gt;.

AP, not sure if you are even reading replies but I miss you and hope everything is ok. I got the feeling from your abrupt departure that there is more going on in your life than just Bunker frustration. In any case, I have been thinking about you and hoping you are not in any kind of distress. If you want to email me just to let me know you&#039;re ok, I&#039;m at kurtjess77 (at) gmail (dot) com.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130852">aegerprimo</a>.</p>
<p>AP, not sure if you are even reading replies but I miss you and hope everything is ok. I got the feeling from your abrupt departure that there is more going on in your life than just Bunker frustration. In any case, I have been thinking about you and hoping you are not in any kind of distress. If you want to email me just to let me know you&#8217;re ok, I&#8217;m at kurtjess77 (at) gmail (dot) com.</p>
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		By: arcinva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcinva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1131492&quot;&gt;seriouslyWTF&lt;/a&gt;.

LOVE those t-shirts!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1131492">seriouslyWTF</a>.</p>
<p>LOVE those t-shirts!</p>
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		By: Draco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Draco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1134033&quot;&gt;arcinva&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes - they definitely do believe this and lots of scientologists talk about discovering thetans hanging out sans body in the weirdest places. They then go into how they &quot;get in comm&quot; with said thetan, find out what his upset is and tell him to go off and get a new body. Not auditing as such, just talking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1134033">arcinva</a>.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; they definitely do believe this and lots of scientologists talk about discovering thetans hanging out sans body in the weirdest places. They then go into how they &#8220;get in comm&#8221; with said thetan, find out what his upset is and tell him to go off and get a new body. Not auditing as such, just talking.</p>
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		By: Andrea 'i-Betty' Garner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea 'i-Betty' Garner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1133956&quot;&gt;arcinva&lt;/a&gt;.

Gramwich :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1133956">arcinva</a>.</p>
<p>Gramwich 🙂</p>
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		By: arcinva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcinva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130857&quot;&gt;ze moo&lt;/a&gt;.

ROFLMAO!!!  Thanks a lot.  My coworkers are all now wondering what&#039;s wrong with me after that outburst.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130857">ze moo</a>.</p>
<p>ROFLMAO!!!  Thanks a lot.  My coworkers are all now wondering what&#8217;s wrong with me after that outburst.</p>
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		By: arcinva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcinva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130600&quot;&gt;Draco&lt;/a&gt;.

To add to salin&#039;s question; do Scientologists believe in ghosts or believe some thetans hang around after death causing issues?  Like, would they ever actually try to audit a ghost / body-less thetan?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130600">Draco</a>.</p>
<p>To add to salin&#8217;s question; do Scientologists believe in ghosts or believe some thetans hang around after death causing issues?  Like, would they ever actually try to audit a ghost / body-less thetan?</p>
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		By: arcinva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcinva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130424&quot;&gt;Science Doc&lt;/a&gt;.

Their use of &quot;subjective reality&quot; is one of the very few times I&#039;ve seen them be honest.  Because being a Scientologist absolutely does put you in a subjective reality.  One in which Hubbard is a genius that tried to save mankind, etc, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130424">Science Doc</a>.</p>
<p>Their use of &#8220;subjective reality&#8221; is one of the very few times I&#8217;ve seen them be honest.  Because being a Scientologist absolutely does put you in a subjective reality.  One in which Hubbard is a genius that tried to save mankind, etc, etc.</p>
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		By: arcinva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcinva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130787&quot;&gt;nottrue&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s funny.  Should I know who Cam Ford is, though?  I really want to know the story behind that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130787">nottrue</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s funny.  Should I know who Cam Ford is, though?  I really want to know the story behind that.</p>
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		By: arcinva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcinva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130344&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

I wish there you could ship them back to CoS COD (cash on delivery).  Hahahaha...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130344">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>I wish there you could ship them back to CoS COD (cash on delivery).  Hahahaha&#8230;</p>
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		By: arcinva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcinva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 12:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130804&quot;&gt;Andrea &#039;i-Betty&#039; Garner&lt;/a&gt;.

How did no one come up with Grahamwich?  Which obviously means Mark and Andrea are on the outside.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/09/15/back-where-it-all-started-hoping-to-see-you-in-phoenix-to-talk-scientology-then-and-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1130804">Andrea &#8216;i-Betty&#8217; Garner</a>.</p>
<p>How did no one come up with Grahamwich?  Which obviously means Mark and Andrea are on the outside.  🙂</p>
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