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	Comments on: Google helps Scientology huckster Per Wickstrom bury a rehab patient death	</title>
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		By: LongtimeLurker		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-2/#comment-1093887</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LongtimeLurker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-2/#comment-1093881&quot;&gt;Iain&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey!

You like that one, eh?

I didn&#039;t mention your user name, because I didn&#039;t want to presume.

We&#039;ll sort it all out in the near future.

A few others here have supported the &quot;renting spaces to other businesses&quot; theory. We&#039;ll find out.

Don&#039;t apologise - keeping up with The Bunker is freakin&#039; hard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-2/#comment-1093881">Iain</a>.</p>
<p>Hey!</p>
<p>You like that one, eh?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mention your user name, because I didn&#8217;t want to presume.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll sort it all out in the near future.</p>
<p>A few others here have supported the &#8220;renting spaces to other businesses&#8221; theory. We&#8217;ll find out.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t apologise &#8211; keeping up with The Bunker is freakin&#8217; hard.</p>
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		By: Iain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-2/#comment-1088510&quot;&gt;LongtimeLurker&lt;/a&gt;.

Good idea :)
(Sorry I&#039;m a bit behind on the Bunker!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-2/#comment-1088510">LongtimeLurker</a>.</p>
<p>Good idea 🙂<br />
(Sorry I&#8217;m a bit behind on the Bunker!)</p>
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		By: Elspeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elspeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This morning, a search on Per Wickstrom does NOT bring up this story in the first two pages. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning, a search on Per Wickstrom does NOT bring up this story in the first two pages. </p>
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		By: califa007		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1092636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[califa007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1091712&quot;&gt;Tracy Schmitz&lt;/a&gt;.

1) I have no idea.  Much of the OT levels is self auditing so the OT makes all of the entries. I don&#039;t know the logistics of how or where the folders are maintained.
2) Yes, the auditor pursues the question for time, place, form (forgot the exact wording) until there is a floating needle.
3) The Joburg is the lengthy questionnaire with the absurd questions about baby farms, etc.
4) Have no idea but my understanding is that self-auditing on the OT levels must be done daily.  I could be mistaken.
5) Don&#039;t know, but would expect that answers would change over the years as people&#039;s memories change with time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1091712">Tracy Schmitz</a>.</p>
<p>1) I have no idea.  Much of the OT levels is self auditing so the OT makes all of the entries. I don&#8217;t know the logistics of how or where the folders are maintained.<br />
2) Yes, the auditor pursues the question for time, place, form (forgot the exact wording) until there is a floating needle.<br />
3) The Joburg is the lengthy questionnaire with the absurd questions about baby farms, etc.<br />
4) Have no idea but my understanding is that self-auditing on the OT levels must be done daily.  I could be mistaken.<br />
5) Don&#8217;t know, but would expect that answers would change over the years as people&#8217;s memories change with time.</p>
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		By: Tracy Schmitz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tracy Schmitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1091117&quot;&gt;califa007&lt;/a&gt;.

thank you for your response and descriptive reply.. some questions though...
1) there are PC folders but what are the folders AFTER a person is &quot;clear&quot; the OT levels, 1 thru whatever? same auditing, same questions?
2) can you comfirm that during the many? auditing sessions included in the PC folders, and forever for that matter that a &quot;yes&quot; answer to questions can be then explored before the next question is asked? what i mean is if the auditing question is &quot;have you ever hurt someone&quot; or &quot;have you ever engaged in homosexuality&quot;.. then if a yes reply is given, the auditor would automatically ask for more information in detail? when, where, how, why, and so on until the auditor is satisfied the preclear has given them ALL and every detail about the &quot;yes&quot; answer before they move on to the next question?
3)sorry i do not know about the &quot;grade 2, joburg?&quot;...
4) how many roughly audits would one go thru by the time they have reached a high OT level? (5,6,7?) 
5) are questions and answers of countless auditis every checked with previous audit questions and answers to see if the answer/answers have changed over the years, over the audits (kind of like a fact check in this regard?)


 thanks again in advance for your reply..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1091117">califa007</a>.</p>
<p>thank you for your response and descriptive reply.. some questions though&#8230;<br />
1) there are PC folders but what are the folders AFTER a person is &#8220;clear&#8221; the OT levels, 1 thru whatever? same auditing, same questions?<br />
2) can you comfirm that during the many? auditing sessions included in the PC folders, and forever for that matter that a &#8220;yes&#8221; answer to questions can be then explored before the next question is asked? what i mean is if the auditing question is &#8220;have you ever hurt someone&#8221; or &#8220;have you ever engaged in homosexuality&#8221;.. then if a yes reply is given, the auditor would automatically ask for more information in detail? when, where, how, why, and so on until the auditor is satisfied the preclear has given them ALL and every detail about the &#8220;yes&#8221; answer before they move on to the next question?<br />
3)sorry i do not know about the &#8220;grade 2, joburg?&#8221;&#8230;<br />
4) how many roughly audits would one go thru by the time they have reached a high OT level? (5,6,7?)<br />
5) are questions and answers of countless auditis every checked with previous audit questions and answers to see if the answer/answers have changed over the years, over the audits (kind of like a fact check in this regard?)</p>
<p> thanks again in advance for your reply..</p>
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		By: Leigh Andrews		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1091227</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh Andrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1088254&quot;&gt;Lucille Austero&lt;/a&gt;.

I liked him better as the reverend who was the assistant to The First in the last season of &quot;Buffy the Vampire Slayer&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1088254">Lucille Austero</a>.</p>
<p>I liked him better as the reverend who was the assistant to The First in the last season of &#8220;Buffy the Vampire Slayer&#8221;.</p>
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		By: TickTockDM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1087755&quot;&gt;Tony Ortega&lt;/a&gt;.

There must have been a new recent police raid because the investigators seen entering the Moscow org in the video in the August 17, 2015 Life News website (1) are wearing summer clothing.  In the video of the January 29, 2015 raid (2), people on the sidewalk are wearing winter coats.
(1) http://lifenews.ru/news/159445
(2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-FmInGckbo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1087755">Tony Ortega</a>.</p>
<p>There must have been a new recent police raid because the investigators seen entering the Moscow org in the video in the August 17, 2015 Life News website (1) are wearing summer clothing.  In the video of the January 29, 2015 raid (2), people on the sidewalk are wearing winter coats.<br />
(1) <a href="http://lifenews.ru/news/159445" rel="nofollow ugc">http://lifenews.ru/news/159445</a><br />
(2) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-FmInGckbo" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-FmInGckbo</a></p>
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		By: califa007		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[califa007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1089738&quot;&gt;Tracy Schmitz&lt;/a&gt;.

OK.  My training is limited, so anyone with more knowledge, please jump in. PC folders contain records of the auditing sessions that were done to go through the grades.  That&#039;s why they&#039;re called the Pre-Clear Folders.  Although the questions start out all the same, the auditor can go off in different directions depending on the PC&#039;s answers and meter reads. Not all items on a level are necessarily administered; the PC may complete the grade at any point.  On Grade II, the Joburg is administered and can elicit data the PC would rather not be made public, but that&#039;s true all through auditing.  Something in the session may prompt the Case Supervisor (who reviews the auditing session) to send the PC to Ethics.  Admission of murder may or may not be an Ethics issue but dissing LRH would be.  But at any point, the PC may be sent to Ethics independent of his/her auditing and be seen by an Ethics Officer.  Someone may have written a Knowledge Report (snitched!) or the Course Supervisor may have an issue, or something may have come up in casual conversation, or whatever.  These sessions are not auditing.  They always start off with &quot;I am not auditing you&quot; and you know you&#039;re in trouble!  This material is kept in your Ethics Folders, separate from your PC (auditing) folders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-1/#comment-1089738">Tracy Schmitz</a>.</p>
<p>OK.  My training is limited, so anyone with more knowledge, please jump in. PC folders contain records of the auditing sessions that were done to go through the grades.  That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re called the Pre-Clear Folders.  Although the questions start out all the same, the auditor can go off in different directions depending on the PC&#8217;s answers and meter reads. Not all items on a level are necessarily administered; the PC may complete the grade at any point.  On Grade II, the Joburg is administered and can elicit data the PC would rather not be made public, but that&#8217;s true all through auditing.  Something in the session may prompt the Case Supervisor (who reviews the auditing session) to send the PC to Ethics.  Admission of murder may or may not be an Ethics issue but dissing LRH would be.  But at any point, the PC may be sent to Ethics independent of his/her auditing and be seen by an Ethics Officer.  Someone may have written a Knowledge Report (snitched!) or the Course Supervisor may have an issue, or something may have come up in casual conversation, or whatever.  These sessions are not auditing.  They always start off with &#8220;I am not auditing you&#8221; and you know you&#8217;re in trouble!  This material is kept in your Ethics Folders, separate from your PC (auditing) folders.</p>
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		By: aegerprimo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aegerprimo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-2/#comment-1089431&quot;&gt;daisy&lt;/a&gt;.

Anyone can email me - aegerprimo AT hushmail DOT com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/18/google-helps-scientology-huckster-per-wickstrom-bury-a-rehab-patient-death/comment-page-2/#comment-1089431">daisy</a>.</p>
<p>Anyone can email me &#8211; aegerprimo AT hushmail DOT com</p>
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		By: MereCatWatcher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MereCatWatcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2015 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dare I check out castle?  Anyway, Nathan is good for something. ]]></description>
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