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	Comments on: Why no one should ever join Scientology&#8217;s &#8216;Sea Org&#8217;	</title>
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		By: aegerprimo		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1096178</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aegerprimo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2015 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1096167&quot;&gt;Ralph Hunter&lt;/a&gt;.

You points are valid, but you should read ANY of Dr. Lalich&#039;s books before you made your post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1096167">Ralph Hunter</a>.</p>
<p>You points are valid, but you should read ANY of Dr. Lalich&#8217;s books before you made your post.</p>
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		By: Ralph Hunter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2015 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1083079&quot;&gt;aegerprimo&lt;/a&gt;.

Have to disagree with your assessment of US  public schools. I am also a graduate of US public schools and think you are projecting your own inability to think critically away from its source, your own personality...... Don&#039;t mean to be hypercritical, but blaming a school system, or your family, or not having a family, or being idealistic doesn&#039;t explain why you, out of all the  graduates of your school ended up there. There was something you wanted from them. ?..respect? Belonging? Security?  I had to work thru college too, but I was always able to see them coming a mile away. So easy for cults to suss out the people who never question...I know all colleges have libraries, surely before joining up you did some research?  It&#039;s a leaning curve some people have to go thru  some people are born with.  I&#039;ll read your story. Thanks for sharing the link. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1083079">aegerprimo</a>.</p>
<p>Have to disagree with your assessment of US  public schools. I am also a graduate of US public schools and think you are projecting your own inability to think critically away from its source, your own personality&#8230;&#8230; Don&#8217;t mean to be hypercritical, but blaming a school system, or your family, or not having a family, or being idealistic doesn&#8217;t explain why you, out of all the  graduates of your school ended up there. There was something you wanted from them. ?..respect? Belonging? Security?  I had to work thru college too, but I was always able to see them coming a mile away. So easy for cults to suss out the people who never question&#8230;I know all colleges have libraries, surely before joining up you did some research?  It&#8217;s a leaning curve some people have to go thru  some people are born with.  I&#8217;ll read your story. Thanks for sharing the link. </p>
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		By: Ralph Hunter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1083317&quot;&gt;J. Swift&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow. ]]></description>
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<p>Wow. </p>
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		By: Carlazi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlazi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1082736&quot;&gt;Sid&lt;/a&gt;.

TBH in any objective analysis you have to take both sides of the argument, the for&#039;s and against. This is where some of the commentary from Tony, Mark, and Mike gets as bad as the BS from the CO$. These guys need to be objective. Its obvious the CO$ wont implode soon, there are still too many members, remember there are some crazy churches in the US with &#060;2k members and still going. People on the outside know its all BS but if you want people on the inside to listen you have to tone down the language and show how much better its to be out e.g. like what happened with East Germany]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1082736">Sid</a>.</p>
<p>TBH in any objective analysis you have to take both sides of the argument, the for&#8217;s and against. This is where some of the commentary from Tony, Mark, and Mike gets as bad as the BS from the CO$. These guys need to be objective. Its obvious the CO$ wont implode soon, there are still too many members, remember there are some crazy churches in the US with &lt;2k members and still going. People on the outside know its all BS but if you want people on the inside to listen you have to tone down the language and show how much better its to be out e.g. like what happened with East Germany</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-2/#comment-1087947&quot;&gt;daisy&lt;/a&gt;.

No problem.  Beatles were a HUGE gateway for me.  But I&#039;ve always been one to seek out the more adventurous side in music and other things so I don&#039;t get completely bored.  I&#039;m a believer in that &quot;high risk, high reward&quot; thing, especially with art.  As you may have noticed, music means more to me than I could possibly express in words, so boredom is just not an option :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-2/#comment-1087947">daisy</a>.</p>
<p>No problem.  Beatles were a HUGE gateway for me.  But I&#8217;ve always been one to seek out the more adventurous side in music and other things so I don&#8217;t get completely bored.  I&#8217;m a believer in that &#8220;high risk, high reward&#8221; thing, especially with art.  As you may have noticed, music means more to me than I could possibly express in words, so boredom is just not an option 🙂</p>
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		By: daisy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-2/#comment-1087936&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

I was generally aware of them, just not their music. I don&#039;t know why, but I don&#039;t listen to music that much anymore, so my tastes are still back with the Rolling Stones, Beatles , etc, I like it on the radio driving, even new stuff. I am more open to listening since this website features it so often. Thanks for the links, I will listen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-2/#comment-1087936">jazzlover</a>.</p>
<p>I was generally aware of them, just not their music. I don&#8217;t know why, but I don&#8217;t listen to music that much anymore, so my tastes are still back with the Rolling Stones, Beatles , etc, I like it on the radio driving, even new stuff. I am more open to listening since this website features it so often. Thanks for the links, I will listen.</p>
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		By: jazzlover		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jazzlover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-2/#comment-1087909&quot;&gt;daisy&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey, btw, I noticed that you mentioned that you were &quot;unaware&quot; of Rush to some degree.  Not sure how that could happen for a Canadian, as they are probably Canada&#039;s greatest export ;)  In any case, if you want recommendations -- I have been a fan since the late 70s -- I&#039;d be happy to espouse my &quot;highly regarded&quot; opinions :)  In any case -- and I don&#039;t say this all that often -- this album is as perfect as perfect gets for me:

http://www.allmusic.com/album/moving-pictures-mw0000616962]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-2/#comment-1087909">daisy</a>.</p>
<p>Hey, btw, I noticed that you mentioned that you were &#8220;unaware&#8221; of Rush to some degree.  Not sure how that could happen for a Canadian, as they are probably Canada&#8217;s greatest export 😉  In any case, if you want recommendations &#8212; I have been a fan since the late 70s &#8212; I&#8217;d be happy to espouse my &#8220;highly regarded&#8221; opinions 🙂  In any case &#8212; and I don&#8217;t say this all that often &#8212; this album is as perfect as perfect gets for me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.allmusic.com/album/moving-pictures-mw0000616962" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.allmusic.com/album/moving-pictures-mw0000616962</a></p>
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		By: daisy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-2/#comment-1083991&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL The fact is I kind of like her classless, crass , style, but, we could never hang  out. You can never have two of the same people in one group. The unfortunate part is I don&#039;t think shes kidding. Oh yeah and the whole scientology thing .]]></description>
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<p>LOL The fact is I kind of like her classless, crass , style, but, we could never hang  out. You can never have two of the same people in one group. The unfortunate part is I don&#8217;t think shes kidding. Oh yeah and the whole scientology thing .</p>
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		By: daisy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1083489&quot;&gt;Madison KinSmed&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely, I have an affinity for other weak minded people. In fact , they are my favorite people.]]></description>
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<p>Absolutely, I have an affinity for other weak minded people. In fact , they are my favorite people.</p>
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		By: daisy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/08/15/why-no-one-should-ever-join-scientologys-sea-org/comment-page-1/#comment-1083193&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

Kevin Bacon starred with Katie Holmes in the TV. movie the gift . Katy was married to Tom Cruise who is an active member of the COS. I was totally going to make something up, but when I went to his bio. , I didn&#039;t have to.]]></description>
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<p>Kevin Bacon starred with Katie Holmes in the TV. movie the gift . Katy was married to Tom Cruise who is an active member of the COS. I was totally going to make something up, but when I went to his bio. , I didn&#8217;t have to.</p>
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