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		By: Intergalactic Walrus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Intergalactic Walrus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2015 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; yes &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;b&gt; yes&lt;/b&gt;
okay&#060;/S?]]></description>
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<b> yes</b><br />
okay&lt;/S?</p>
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		By: The Skorpion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Skorpion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055071&quot;&gt;stillgrace2&lt;/a&gt;.

If you look at the middle of the image you can see a small lake running from left to right. Basically between the brown and the green in the image.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055071">stillgrace2</a>.</p>
<p>If you look at the middle of the image you can see a small lake running from left to right. Basically between the brown and the green in the image.</p>
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		By: Orville		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orville]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2015 05:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Incidentally, they actually did come up with that storage case. (It&#039;s patent US5238137 A, in case you want to dig through Google Patents.) Oddly, L. Ron Hubbard has a posthumous patent credited to him- an apparatus for reducing distortion in a tape recorder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, they actually did come up with that storage case. (It&#8217;s patent US5238137 A, in case you want to dig through Google Patents.) Oddly, L. Ron Hubbard has a posthumous patent credited to him- an apparatus for reducing distortion in a tape recorder.</p>
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		By: Jimmbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, they&#039;ve thought of everything! Except....hmm.

This stuff can&#039;t be hidden. Humanity must easily find this super-valuable motherlode, so it&#039;s got to be easily accessible. For now, it&#039;s presumably guarded or at least monitored, of course, but maybe I&#039;ll leave a note to my kids and nieces and nephews, asking them, in turn, to leave notes of their own, so that when COS dies (could be in OUR lifetimes, but surely within a couple of generations), someone knows to seek out these caves and scratch up the records and crap on the books so this toxic, preventing any resurrection of this demonic nonsense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, they&#8217;ve thought of everything! Except&#8230;.hmm.</p>
<p>This stuff can&#8217;t be hidden. Humanity must easily find this super-valuable motherlode, so it&#8217;s got to be easily accessible. For now, it&#8217;s presumably guarded or at least monitored, of course, but maybe I&#8217;ll leave a note to my kids and nieces and nephews, asking them, in turn, to leave notes of their own, so that when COS dies (could be in OUR lifetimes, but surely within a couple of generations), someone knows to seek out these caves and scratch up the records and crap on the books so this toxic, preventing any resurrection of this demonic nonsense.</p>
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		By: Jester1137		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jester1137]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-2/#comment-1055874&quot;&gt;Ghost of Gon&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s funny watching &quot;I&#039;m not a Scientologist but&quot;s become unglued.

If my mom or my 17 year old niece or someone I cared deeply about was involved in a lethal thieving cult started by a con-man, I&#039;d be fighting to save them from it.  Not screaming at people fighting said cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-2/#comment-1055874">Ghost of Gon</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny watching &#8220;I&#8217;m not a Scientologist but&#8221;s become unglued.</p>
<p>If my mom or my 17 year old niece or someone I cared deeply about was involved in a lethal thieving cult started by a con-man, I&#8217;d be fighting to save them from it.  Not screaming at people fighting said cult.</p>
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		By: Jester1137		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jester1137]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055464&quot;&gt;Science Doc&lt;/a&gt;.

Makes you wonder just who owns, or owns stock in, the companies they sourced this crap from.

And how high the mark-up was.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055464">Science Doc</a>.</p>
<p>Makes you wonder just who owns, or owns stock in, the companies they sourced this crap from.</p>
<p>And how high the mark-up was.</p>
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		By: Jester1137		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jester1137]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055833&quot;&gt;John P.&lt;/a&gt;.

You can get about 60% of the gist of Chaucer if you get past the archaic spelling.

But remember how deadly the tech is if you have any misunderstoods? (Supposedly).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055833">John P.</a>.</p>
<p>You can get about 60% of the gist of Chaucer if you get past the archaic spelling.</p>
<p>But remember how deadly the tech is if you have any misunderstoods? (Supposedly).</p>
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		By: Jester1137		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jester1137]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055563&quot;&gt;Grover&lt;/a&gt;.

Gold and silver had value because Kings took it in taxes.  In antiquity, the King almost always controlled the gold and silver mines.  By paying his troops, letting them pay farmers and merchants for goods, and then collecting much of the gold back up again he saved a great deal of real wealth and many lives that would have been destroyed if his soldiers simply preyed on the populace to get the same things.

What&#039;s gold to a hungry man if there are no Kings?  Compare it to ammunition, or food, or a good knife.  Remember how insane Native Americans thought European lust for it was?  Even peoples like the Inca who valued it pretty highly for adornment?

A few years after a collapse, everyone would feel that way.  If there&#039;s no King who wants it in taxes...it&#039;s not worth all that much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055563">Grover</a>.</p>
<p>Gold and silver had value because Kings took it in taxes.  In antiquity, the King almost always controlled the gold and silver mines.  By paying his troops, letting them pay farmers and merchants for goods, and then collecting much of the gold back up again he saved a great deal of real wealth and many lives that would have been destroyed if his soldiers simply preyed on the populace to get the same things.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s gold to a hungry man if there are no Kings?  Compare it to ammunition, or food, or a good knife.  Remember how insane Native Americans thought European lust for it was?  Even peoples like the Inca who valued it pretty highly for adornment?</p>
<p>A few years after a collapse, everyone would feel that way.  If there&#8217;s no King who wants it in taxes&#8230;it&#8217;s not worth all that much.</p>
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		By: Jester1137		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jester1137]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055736&quot;&gt;Deeana&lt;/a&gt;.

Or they&#039;re one of the one million children who die from it in just the next 12 months because their moms and dads don&#039;t have 10 dollars for a vaccine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1055736">Deeana</a>.</p>
<p>Or they&#8217;re one of the one million children who die from it in just the next 12 months because their moms and dads don&#8217;t have 10 dollars for a vaccine.</p>
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		By: Jester1137		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jester1137]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1056534&quot;&gt;Always Amazed&lt;/a&gt;.

Greywater is awesome for lawns. They slurp it up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/07/27/a-new-look-inside-scientologys-bomb-proof-vaults-and-a-visit-to-l-ron-hubbards-final-rodeo/comment-page-1/#comment-1056534">Always Amazed</a>.</p>
<p>Greywater is awesome for lawns. They slurp it up.</p>
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