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		By: Henry roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-974841&quot;&gt;Fred G. Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I didn&#039;t sign up for any social  media account,&quot;  They lost me as a banking customer and I have warned family and friends.http://prurgent.com/2016-08-22/pressrelease413880.htm]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;I didn&#8217;t sign up for any social  media account,&#8221;  They lost me as a banking customer and I have warned family and friends.<a href="http://prurgent.com/2016-08-22/pressrelease413880.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://prurgent.com/2016-08-22/pressrelease413880.htm</a></p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That’s
really amazing and extraordinary blogs &#038; can help those who get issues in
searching this type of information

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abestfashion.com/lip-piercing-aftercare-relief-from-discomfort/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bleeding&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abestfashion.com/lip-piercing-aftercare-relief-from-discomfort/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Healing  aftercare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abestfashion.com/lip-piercing-aftercare-relief-from-discomfort/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lip
piercing &lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s<br />
really amazing and extraordinary blogs &amp; can help those who get issues in<br />
searching this type of information</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abestfashion.com/lip-piercing-aftercare-relief-from-discomfort/" rel="nofollow">Bleeding</a><a href="http://www.abestfashion.com/lip-piercing-aftercare-relief-from-discomfort/" rel="nofollow"><br />
Healing  aftercare</a><a href="http://www.abestfashion.com/lip-piercing-aftercare-relief-from-discomfort/" rel="nofollow">Lip<br />
piercing </a></p>
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		By: James Morris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Morris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-975070&quot;&gt;KingofSweden&lt;/a&gt;.

I, too, mourn the passing of erudition.  If you write something and you mean someone to read it, you are obliged to do as well as you can manage.  It is a decency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-975070">KingofSweden</a>.</p>
<p>I, too, mourn the passing of erudition.  If you write something and you mean someone to read it, you are obliged to do as well as you can manage.  It is a decency.</p>
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		By: Todd Tomorrow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Tomorrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-977363&quot;&gt;Mymy88&lt;/a&gt;.

Tenefife, was caused by the Dutch Pilot not wanting to go over his hours because he was an impatient prick. But it was a perfect storm of events. To The Dutch he was the symbol of their magazine ads etc..Several times he made drastic mistakes. Sickens me to this day, He took off without clearance. In the book if you can find it, Sky Gods, it explained how you never questioned the Captain. It might be out of print but well worth the read. Pan Am, had similar incidences until they decided to make drastic changes in cockpit pecking order. The Airbus was basically given the wrong map, as well as, had never tried it prior to the demo. 
    When I was a kid 23, I learned how to fly for free on PanAm ]. It&#039;s a long story and I flew business or First class, upgraded for free. 
 i&#039;d love to tell you about it, Leo in, Catch me if you can had to sit on the hard jump seat but I didn&#039;t. I flew all over the world as much as a could. When the weather would get cols in Seattle I&#039;d go spens 3-6 months in Rio, that will always be my favorite place! Then i&#039;d also go to Europe for a month or two, mainly  Madrid and the UK.  Just woke up but it was the best time and tried to keep doing it even on other airlines after Pan Am left us in 1991.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-977363">Mymy88</a>.</p>
<p>Tenefife, was caused by the Dutch Pilot not wanting to go over his hours because he was an impatient prick. But it was a perfect storm of events. To The Dutch he was the symbol of their magazine ads etc..Several times he made drastic mistakes. Sickens me to this day, He took off without clearance. In the book if you can find it, Sky Gods, it explained how you never questioned the Captain. It might be out of print but well worth the read. Pan Am, had similar incidences until they decided to make drastic changes in cockpit pecking order. The Airbus was basically given the wrong map, as well as, had never tried it prior to the demo.<br />
    When I was a kid 23, I learned how to fly for free on PanAm ]. It&#8217;s a long story and I flew business or First class, upgraded for free.<br />
 i&#8217;d love to tell you about it, Leo in, Catch me if you can had to sit on the hard jump seat but I didn&#8217;t. I flew all over the world as much as a could. When the weather would get cols in Seattle I&#8217;d go spens 3-6 months in Rio, that will always be my favorite place! Then i&#8217;d also go to Europe for a month or two, mainly  Madrid and the UK.  Just woke up but it was the best time and tried to keep doing it even on other airlines after Pan Am left us in 1991.</p>
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		By: Lady Squash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lady Squash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-2/#comment-975672&quot;&gt;Douglas D. Douglas&lt;/a&gt;.

Did you know that the Church of Scientology website says he was?  Curious, huh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-2/#comment-975672">Douglas D. Douglas</a>.</p>
<p>Did you know that the Church of Scientology website says he was?  Curious, huh.</p>
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		By: Mymy88		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mymy88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-975271&quot;&gt;Todd Tomorrow&lt;/a&gt;.

Okay, thanks for the recommend. I will definitely check it out - looking forward. Here is the reply you missed and it has a little addendum at the end. 

OMG I remember that one. Air France&#039;s showing of the Airbus,  with a long line of spectators. It barely got off the ground 

and flew straight into the wooded area to its doom. Gah! Horrible!

They said there is still controversy to this day on what the cause was. They said it had to do with some kind of automated 

function taken precedent over something the pilot did. Fuck! If you ask me, that&#039;s why half the fucking planes go down 

right there!

As far as the kid in the cockpit episode, it&#039;s always the same thing, a perfect storm. That seems so strange to me. I&#039;m not 

sure why. I always tend to think it was ONE reason, but it never is ONE reason, or rarely.

The Tenerife episode! Oh my God. I watched that one over and over trying to get a real good understanding of what exactly 

went wrong. I ended up at a website that explained it pretty well, but it was still kind of tricky to get it to play back 

accurately in my head. I know that part about how one transmission happened the same time as the other and cancelled it 

out was key, but so were some other things that went wrong, or at least they could have been key. (EDIT TO ADD) The 

website I mentioned was a bird&#039;s eye view of the scenario (animated) that showed where the planes were and how they 

were moving, while matching everything with all the transmissions. Who knows how accurate it is, but it helped me to 

understand better. I&#039;ll see if I can find it again and send it to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-975271">Todd Tomorrow</a>.</p>
<p>Okay, thanks for the recommend. I will definitely check it out &#8211; looking forward. Here is the reply you missed and it has a little addendum at the end. </p>
<p>OMG I remember that one. Air France&#8217;s showing of the Airbus,  with a long line of spectators. It barely got off the ground </p>
<p>and flew straight into the wooded area to its doom. Gah! Horrible!</p>
<p>They said there is still controversy to this day on what the cause was. They said it had to do with some kind of automated </p>
<p>function taken precedent over something the pilot did. Fuck! If you ask me, that&#8217;s why half the fucking planes go down </p>
<p>right there!</p>
<p>As far as the kid in the cockpit episode, it&#8217;s always the same thing, a perfect storm. That seems so strange to me. I&#8217;m not </p>
<p>sure why. I always tend to think it was ONE reason, but it never is ONE reason, or rarely.</p>
<p>The Tenerife episode! Oh my God. I watched that one over and over trying to get a real good understanding of what exactly </p>
<p>went wrong. I ended up at a website that explained it pretty well, but it was still kind of tricky to get it to play back </p>
<p>accurately in my head. I know that part about how one transmission happened the same time as the other and cancelled it </p>
<p>out was key, but so were some other things that went wrong, or at least they could have been key. (EDIT TO ADD) The </p>
<p>website I mentioned was a bird&#8217;s eye view of the scenario (animated) that showed where the planes were and how they </p>
<p>were moving, while matching everything with all the transmissions. Who knows how accurate it is, but it helped me to </p>
<p>understand better. I&#8217;ll see if I can find it again and send it to you.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann Ashley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am new to these posts and would like to get the information out that I have filed Small Claims Court proceedings against the Church of Scientology Arizona aka Church of Scientology Phoenix for the return of unused money. 

Please excuse me for being off-topic. I just do not know how to get the information out into public discussion/awareness.  Although I am a “little fish in the pond”, I feel it important to contribute. 

Case # CC2015-087583 Arcadia Biltmore Justice Court
 filed 5/18/2015
 Complaint served May 28, 2015 to Virginia Leason, Director of Special Affairs-Legal Dept.
 Church of Scientology Of Arizona 3875 N. 44th Street, Phoenix. 

This can be seen on the Maricopa County Justice Court website.  The Defendant has 20 days from time of service to respond.  

I wonder how many other “little fish” have also filed in small claims or have wanted to?  Even if I lose, I win.  

Ann]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am new to these posts and would like to get the information out that I have filed Small Claims Court proceedings against the Church of Scientology Arizona aka Church of Scientology Phoenix for the return of unused money. </p>
<p>Please excuse me for being off-topic. I just do not know how to get the information out into public discussion/awareness.  Although I am a “little fish in the pond”, I feel it important to contribute. </p>
<p>Case # CC2015-087583 Arcadia Biltmore Justice Court<br />
 filed 5/18/2015<br />
 Complaint served May 28, 2015 to Virginia Leason, Director of Special Affairs-Legal Dept.<br />
 Church of Scientology Of Arizona 3875 N. 44th Street, Phoenix. </p>
<p>This can be seen on the Maricopa County Justice Court website.  The Defendant has 20 days from time of service to respond.  </p>
<p>I wonder how many other “little fish” have also filed in small claims or have wanted to?  Even if I lose, I win.  </p>
<p>Ann</p>
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		By: Betsy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Betsy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-976894&quot;&gt;Lynn Fountain Campbell&lt;/a&gt;.

Imagine...they&#039;ve been forbidden to receive free toilet paper!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-976894">Lynn Fountain Campbell</a>.</p>
<p>Imagine&#8230;they&#8217;ve been forbidden to receive free toilet paper!</p>
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		By: Lynn Fountain Campbell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn Fountain Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-976797&quot;&gt;Betsy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for listening, Betsy.  I think more people *have* been seeing the signs.  I bet they&#039;ve been ordered to walk on the other side of the street, because that&#039;s what I&#039;ve been seeing lately.  It looks like they might be newer Sea Org members, because the faces aren&#039;t familiar to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-976797">Betsy</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for listening, Betsy.  I think more people *have* been seeing the signs.  I bet they&#8217;ve been ordered to walk on the other side of the street, because that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been seeing lately.  It looks like they might be newer Sea Org members, because the faces aren&#8217;t familiar to me.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Betsy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-976538&quot;&gt;Lynn Fountain Campbell&lt;/a&gt;.

I listened to your radio interview...wonderful!  You had a time of it.  I&#039;m so glad you went on to tell about the Sea Org.  The outside world needs to know.  And I hope everyone who goes by Big Blue ALSO sees the signs in your window, especially those still in the Sea Org!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/31/what-happened-when-an-actual-scientist-of-the-mind-checked-out-l-ron-hubbard-in-1950/comment-page-1/#comment-976538">Lynn Fountain Campbell</a>.</p>
<p>I listened to your radio interview&#8230;wonderful!  You had a time of it.  I&#8217;m so glad you went on to tell about the Sea Org.  The outside world needs to know.  And I hope everyone who goes by Big Blue ALSO sees the signs in your window, especially those still in the Sea Org!</p>
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