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		By: Todd Tomorrow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2015 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I didn&#039;t because his writing style was that of a country western singer. But I get daft at this hour been up since 5:30. still have to make dinner for my nephew. G&#039;night sweety:)]]></description>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t because his writing style was that of a country western singer. But I get daft at this hour been up since 5:30. still have to make dinner for my nephew. G&#8217;night sweety:)</p>
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		By: Super Power Wogsie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2015 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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No he had it for a few mintues then poof disappeared...like his acct is gone. I&#039;m still responding to your other comment...

ETa: I see you guys found him??? so nvm]]></description>
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<p>No he had it for a few mintues then poof disappeared&#8230;like his acct is gone. I&#8217;m still responding to your other comment&#8230;</p>
<p>ETa: I see you guys found him??? so nvm</p>
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		By: Todd Tomorrow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Tomorrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2015 03:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/09/scientology-answers-garcia-motion-we-are-definitely-a-bona-fide-worldwide-religion/comment-page-2/#comment-962698&quot;&gt;Super Power Wogsie&lt;/a&gt;.

Damn was it over an altercation? He is a really great guy, what&#039;s his new avi? Or you don&#039;t have to tell me if you think he didn&#039;t want anybody to know.]]></description>
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<p>Damn was it over an altercation? He is a really great guy, what&#8217;s his new avi? Or you don&#8217;t have to tell me if you think he didn&#8217;t want anybody to know.</p>
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		By: Super Power Wogsie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Super Power Wogsie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2015 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Isubgenius did a sock change then deleted his account.

I happened to see it on accident.]]></description>
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<p>Isubgenius did a sock change then deleted his account.</p>
<p>I happened to see it on accident.</p>
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		By: Susan_Qbird_Poche		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan_Qbird_Poche]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/09/scientology-answers-garcia-motion-we-are-definitely-a-bona-fide-worldwide-religion/comment-page-2/#comment-961873&quot;&gt;RMycroft&lt;/a&gt;.

ok.  interwebs did not help me.  But! 
Atack quotes the group {leader} hisself out of the &lt;i&gt;Washington Daily News&lt;/i&gt; 13, Sept. 1932 
21 year old LRH writes: &quot;Moral down to zero.&quot;  
(but no effigy q)
Ah ha!  Wright writes on page 38, a photographer, George Blakeslee, one of the original 53, on board for the &quot;glorious adventure&quot;... while becalmed in the Sargasso Sea, after having lost their precious sweet water for the second time, eyewitness report / quote, &quot;So we made an effigy of Hubbard and strung it up in the shrouds.  Put a piece of red cloth on the head and a sign on it.  &#039;Our red-headed __________&#039;  Hubbard stayed in his cabin after that.&quot;  
Oooo... sailor speak! 
fill in the blank
 Curses at sea. 
The self-appointed Leader of the Expedition couldn&#039;t keep his crew together &#038; hid, then left everybody high &#038; dry.  
Fact: He wasn&#039;t the hired Captain nor crew. This was a massive wooden sailing ship, over 200 feet long, 40 foot beam, no motor power, just sails!  Hard-ass vacation / adventure, lots of work involved with this running this boat.  And too all those young, dumb, green horn &#039;Jonahs&#039; on board.  yeesh.]]></description>
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<p>ok.  interwebs did not help me.  But!<br />
Atack quotes the group {leader} hisself out of the <i>Washington Daily News</i> 13, Sept. 1932<br />
21 year old LRH writes: &#8220;Moral down to zero.&#8221;<br />
(but no effigy q)<br />
Ah ha!  Wright writes on page 38, a photographer, George Blakeslee, one of the original 53, on board for the &#8220;glorious adventure&#8221;&#8230; while becalmed in the Sargasso Sea, after having lost their precious sweet water for the second time, eyewitness report / quote, &#8220;So we made an effigy of Hubbard and strung it up in the shrouds.  Put a piece of red cloth on the head and a sign on it.  &#8216;Our red-headed __________&#8217;  Hubbard stayed in his cabin after that.&#8221;<br />
Oooo&#8230; sailor speak!<br />
fill in the blank<br />
 Curses at sea.<br />
The self-appointed Leader of the Expedition couldn&#8217;t keep his crew together &amp; hid, then left everybody high &amp; dry.<br />
Fact: He wasn&#8217;t the hired Captain nor crew. This was a massive wooden sailing ship, over 200 feet long, 40 foot beam, no motor power, just sails!  Hard-ass vacation / adventure, lots of work involved with this running this boat.  And too all those young, dumb, green horn &#8216;Jonahs&#8217; on board.  yeesh.</p>
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		By: RMycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RMycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/09/scientology-answers-garcia-motion-we-are-definitely-a-bona-fide-worldwide-religion/comment-page-2/#comment-961786&quot;&gt;Susan_Qbird_Poche&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah. I was checking the original edition of BFM, not the recent one.]]></description>
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<p>Ah. I was checking the original edition of BFM, not the recent one.</p>
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		By: Susan_Qbird_Poche		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan_Qbird_Poche]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/09/scientology-answers-garcia-motion-we-are-definitely-a-bona-fide-worldwide-religion/comment-page-2/#comment-961205&quot;&gt;RMycroft&lt;/a&gt;.

thanks again... coulda woulda swore I read it first on-line in BFM... I haven&#039;t bought his hard copy book yet.  I will say it was Miller&#039;s writing that gave me the best &#039;feel&#039; for Hubbard&#039;s nature.  Then Corydon&#039;s &quot;Madman&quot;, then &quot;Blue Sky&quot; &#038; Wright. 
 (of course Tony &#038; you guys for all the up-to-date nitty-gritty).
Reading James Free&#039;s interview wherein he says that he &#038; Ron did not return to Baltimore on the jinx ship &lt;i&gt;Doris Hamlin.&lt;/i&gt; Says they caught a freighter from Puerto Rico to NOLA together... so, the &#039;leader/captain/commander&#039; LRH, in the end, abandoned ship &#038; crew all together.  From 1st command to last, a gd cowardly lying cheating blowhard.  yeesh. 
The Doris Hamlin &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; jinxed, RMycroft - in the very end of her life, she went down to sea, disappeared, with all hands Feb. 1940.
Hubbard was Toxic to everything he touched.
~off to library of congress.]]></description>
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<p>thanks again&#8230; coulda woulda swore I read it first on-line in BFM&#8230; I haven&#8217;t bought his hard copy book yet.  I will say it was Miller&#8217;s writing that gave me the best &#8216;feel&#8217; for Hubbard&#8217;s nature.  Then Corydon&#8217;s &#8220;Madman&#8221;, then &#8220;Blue Sky&#8221; &amp; Wright.<br />
 (of course Tony &amp; you guys for all the up-to-date nitty-gritty).<br />
Reading James Free&#8217;s interview wherein he says that he &amp; Ron did not return to Baltimore on the jinx ship <i>Doris Hamlin.</i> Says they caught a freighter from Puerto Rico to NOLA together&#8230; so, the &#8216;leader/captain/commander&#8217; LRH, in the end, abandoned ship &amp; crew all together.  From 1st command to last, a gd cowardly lying cheating blowhard.  yeesh.<br />
The Doris Hamlin <b>was</b> jinxed, RMycroft &#8211; in the very end of her life, she went down to sea, disappeared, with all hands Feb. 1940.<br />
Hubbard was Toxic to everything he touched.<br />
~off to library of congress.</p>
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		By: RMycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RMycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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There&#039;s no reference to hanging in effigy in BFM, so the sources in Going Clear would be the place to check, I guess: &quot;Daily Record&quot; in Library of Congress and &quot;Doris Hamlin, jinx ship, reaches port&quot;, Baltimore Evening Sun.]]></description>
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<p>There&#8217;s no reference to hanging in effigy in BFM, so the sources in Going Clear would be the place to check, I guess: &#8220;Daily Record&#8221; in Library of Congress and &#8220;Doris Hamlin, jinx ship, reaches port&#8221;, Baltimore Evening Sun.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan_Qbird_Poche]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Hello there RMy ~ looking for the source, the original quote, regards Hubbard being &#039;hung in effigy&#039; by the crew of the &lt;i&gt;Doris Hamlin.&lt;/i&gt;  The end of the Caribbean Motion Picture Expedition, the commode-door&#039;s 1st &#039;command&#039;.  I&#039;m googling but not finding who witnessed this, said it...  
Plenty on 
how it was a most excellent failure, even found quotes by LRH himself on that.  
By his own account, he calls himself the leader as it was his idea to charter the schooner.  Big boat, 212&#039; &#038; came with a for real Captain (Fred Garfield) too, who really didn&#039;t like being bossed around by the 21 year old F*cktard.  In later musings Ron calls himself the captain, then it goes to commander on the Scn. pages.  
Miller, Atack &#038; Wright have said the event occured.
just wondering.  Tks in advance, Q
oh this launching of the ship was filmed!  Cool old video on this page:  https://www.mainememory.net/sitebuilder/site/295/page/558/display?use_mmn=]]></description>
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<p>Hello there RMy ~ looking for the source, the original quote, regards Hubbard being &#8216;hung in effigy&#8217; by the crew of the <i>Doris Hamlin.</i>  The end of the Caribbean Motion Picture Expedition, the commode-door&#8217;s 1st &#8216;command&#8217;.  I&#8217;m googling but not finding who witnessed this, said it&#8230;<br />
Plenty on<br />
how it was a most excellent failure, even found quotes by LRH himself on that.<br />
By his own account, he calls himself the leader as it was his idea to charter the schooner.  Big boat, 212&#8242; &amp; came with a for real Captain (Fred Garfield) too, who really didn&#8217;t like being bossed around by the 21 year old F*cktard.  In later musings Ron calls himself the captain, then it goes to commander on the Scn. pages.<br />
Miller, Atack &amp; Wright have said the event occured.<br />
just wondering.  Tks in advance, Q<br />
oh this launching of the ship was filmed!  Cool old video on this page:  <a href="https://www.mainememory.net/sitebuilder/site/295/page/558/display?use_mmn=" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.mainememory.net/sitebuilder/site/295/page/558/display?use_mmn=</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan_Qbird_Poche]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2015 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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hiya Cathy ~ I missed this reply, uh. 8 days ago... lol.
Hi - :-)
Get this, i don&#039;t tweet. and i call myself Q-bird.  Ha!
I was late to the interwebs game. 
I like that L.Ron Hubbturd left such a massive paper trail.
His own words damn him.  The truth damns him.
Use them any way you can!  Tweet on!]]></description>
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<p>hiya Cathy ~ I missed this reply, uh. 8 days ago&#8230; lol.<br />
Hi &#8211; 🙂<br />
Get this, i don&#8217;t tweet. and i call myself Q-bird.  Ha!<br />
I was late to the interwebs game.<br />
I like that L.Ron Hubbturd left such a massive paper trail.<br />
His own words damn him.  The truth damns him.<br />
Use them any way you can!  Tweet on!</p>
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