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		By: MaxSpaceman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MaxSpaceman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 22:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-947532&quot;&gt;DodoTheLaser&lt;/a&gt;.

There are no words. Part of your heart&#039;s been ripped out of you I know. Never get over it; just have to not think of it; you&#039;ll always love her (as I will my Isadora Dunkin.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-947532">DodoTheLaser</a>.</p>
<p>There are no words. Part of your heart&#8217;s been ripped out of you I know. Never get over it; just have to not think of it; you&#8217;ll always love her (as I will my Isadora Dunkin.)</p>
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		By: Susan_Qbird_Poche		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan_Qbird_Poche]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2015 06:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-1/#comment-939697&quot;&gt;Lorna Carleton&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi again Lorna ~ have you seen this:  https://youtu.be/abaJmEUgEe0
Words of encouragement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-1/#comment-939697">Lorna Carleton</a>.</p>
<p>Hi again Lorna ~ have you seen this:  <a href="https://youtu.be/abaJmEUgEe0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/abaJmEUgEe0</a><br />
Words of encouragement.</p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2015 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-949505&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

I know how you feel. About the access: log in, scroll down to Members Only Area, click on Grudge Matches, you will easily find it there on the first page.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-949505">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>I know how you feel. About the access: log in, scroll down to Members Only Area, click on Grudge Matches, you will easily find it there on the first page.</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-947532&quot;&gt;DodoTheLaser&lt;/a&gt;.

That is absolutely disgusting and makes my blood boil— Good on Tony for not giving them the satisfaction go changing a whit of what he does, but the is just so low (and useless—as I said, has it ever worked?) 
Tangentially— I am a member of the exscn site, but still didn’t have the right to see the post.. Any ideas why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-947532">DodoTheLaser</a>.</p>
<p>That is absolutely disgusting and makes my blood boil— Good on Tony for not giving them the satisfaction go changing a whit of what he does, but the is just so low (and useless—as I said, has it ever worked?)<br />
Tangentially— I am a member of the exscn site, but still didn’t have the right to see the post.. Any ideas why?</p>
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		By: Clear#4213		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was a long time ago that I was in the SO at ASHO (1970), before it moved to the old hospital (the big blue building). It used to be across the street from the Rampart cop shop. My workday was the day and foundation shift, 7 am to 11 pm or later. The pay was $7 per week.

One day, a family came to my desk in registration to route onto some staff course. The father told me that they had given everything they had to the church and they all joined the SO. He was pretty freaked out because, although they had been promised family housing, this &quot;housing&quot; consisted of being assigned the crawl space underneath the staff house on Carondelet Street. So this family of four had to crawl under the house and bed down in the dirt. 

At that time, there were no Ideal Orgs. The organizations were pretty seedy, for the most part. I had such a long schedule that there was no time to even do laundry. I would take a bath in my underwear so that my bra and other unmentionables would get cleaned at the same time I bathed the old bod.

One fellow staff member wrote a &quot;success story&quot; stating that he was so grateful for the chance to work himself into exhaustion!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a long time ago that I was in the SO at ASHO (1970), before it moved to the old hospital (the big blue building). It used to be across the street from the Rampart cop shop. My workday was the day and foundation shift, 7 am to 11 pm or later. The pay was $7 per week.</p>
<p>One day, a family came to my desk in registration to route onto some staff course. The father told me that they had given everything they had to the church and they all joined the SO. He was pretty freaked out because, although they had been promised family housing, this &#8220;housing&#8221; consisted of being assigned the crawl space underneath the staff house on Carondelet Street. So this family of four had to crawl under the house and bed down in the dirt. </p>
<p>At that time, there were no Ideal Orgs. The organizations were pretty seedy, for the most part. I had such a long schedule that there was no time to even do laundry. I would take a bath in my underwear so that my bra and other unmentionables would get cleaned at the same time I bathed the old bod.</p>
<p>One fellow staff member wrote a &#8220;success story&#8221; stating that he was so grateful for the chance to work himself into exhaustion!</p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2015 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-946447&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

Tony did mention it, but on ESMB, a few days ago: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?39322-Tony-O-and-AGP-going-at-it-on-OCMB/page2&#038;p=1031923#post1031923

&quot;In January 2013, two of my cats were poisoned. One survived it, one did 
not. My favorite cat died in my arms in what was the single worst night 
of my life.

My vet did tests on the surviving cat, and told me there was no question they had been deliberately targeted.

Of course, I can&#039;t prove who did it or why, which is why I have never 
written about it. But even though I live with three cats, I refuse to 
change the description at the website, because as far as I am concerned,
 Hei Mao will always be in the Bunker with me. She was the one who 
always sat, curled up against me while I wrote.

So yeah, four cats. 

Thanks,

Tony Ortega]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-946447">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>Tony did mention it, but on ESMB, a few days ago: <a href="http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?39322-Tony-O-and-AGP-going-at-it-on-OCMB/page2&#038;p=1031923#post1031923" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?39322-Tony-O-and-AGP-going-at-it-on-OCMB/page2&#038;p=1031923#post1031923</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In January 2013, two of my cats were poisoned. One survived it, one did<br />
not. My favorite cat died in my arms in what was the single worst night<br />
of my life.</p>
<p>My vet did tests on the surviving cat, and told me there was no question they had been deliberately targeted.</p>
<p>Of course, I can&#8217;t prove who did it or why, which is why I have never<br />
written about it. But even though I live with three cats, I refuse to<br />
change the description at the website, because as far as I am concerned,<br />
 Hei Mao will always be in the Bunker with me. She was the one who<br />
always sat, curled up against me while I wrote.</p>
<p>So yeah, four cats. </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Tony Ortega</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-945775&quot;&gt;DodoTheLaser&lt;/a&gt;.

I have absolutely no doubt of that, Dodo.

I’ve had some little problems, but for the moment I am chalking it up to paranoia as the cult has bigger fish o fry than little  ol’ me  ;-) 
Thanks for the info. Tony never talks about it, so how do you guys hear this stuff?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-945775">DodoTheLaser</a>.</p>
<p>I have absolutely no doubt of that, Dodo.</p>
<p>I’ve had some little problems, but for the moment I am chalking it up to paranoia as the cult has bigger fish o fry than little  ol’ me  😉<br />
Thanks for the info. Tony never talks about it, so how do you guys hear this stuff?</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-1/#comment-940393&quot;&gt;Lionel Drinkwater&lt;/a&gt;.

:D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-1/#comment-940393">Lionel Drinkwater</a>.</p>
<p>😀</p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 06:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-944435&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

Two cats actually were poisoned, but one survived. The vet said it was not an accident.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/05/02/more-testimony-that-scientologys-celebrities-know-all-about-sea-org-deprivations/comment-page-2/#comment-944435">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>Two cats actually were poisoned, but one survived. The vet said it was not an accident.</p>
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		By: John Andra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, it is too bad that the Sea Org people had to get up so early for the Nancy Cartwright thing so they could make 8:00 am muster. I think the celebrities just figure that if the underpaid Sea Org members don&#039;t like working long hours for peanuts, they can up and leave. So I do not feel like I am in a position to criticize Nancy Cartwright for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is too bad that the Sea Org people had to get up so early for the Nancy Cartwright thing so they could make 8:00 am muster. I think the celebrities just figure that if the underpaid Sea Org members don&#8217;t like working long hours for peanuts, they can up and leave. So I do not feel like I am in a position to criticize Nancy Cartwright for this.</p>
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